Manchester United Banter Archive December 27 2018

27 Dec 2018 19:39:39
The league is only at the half way point, can't see why we shouldn't get 4th there are 18 games left lots of points to collect. Positive thinking!

27 Dec 2018 20:16:28
19 😉.

27 Dec 2018 20:45:23
Some of the dropped points these last few games have really helped us.

The premier league is very difficult, the winter period now over christmas and new year, and then later when combined with European matches, is the difference between champions and also ranks, or top 4 and just outside.

We have taken our dropped points early in the season, which means we need a stunning winter. But everything is possible.

27 Dec 2018 22:02:57
I don't want to be a killjoy and I'm loving the way we've played the last two games, but we haven't played anyone half decent since being rejuvenated. This is a long season and points will be dropped by us and, if cities results lately are anything to go by, all other teams as well.

All I'm trying to say is let's not get carried away and hope we win more games than those above us.

28 Dec 2018 02:07:13
Agree with the sentiment, but would also add that under Jose we probably wouldn’t have had 2 wins. Small steps, build some momentum and then we can measure ourselves against better opposition mid January.

28 Dec 2018 10:04:47
topbomin these are the games that we struggled to win under jose, dropped points against the lesser teams at home cost us last season and has cost us this seaso.

although i agree we haven't played anyone that on paper is a top team while we are playing this way teams will not fancy playing us atm.

loving the fact that when we go a goal up we are continuing to go for more.

and the mood just looks and feels great.

27 Dec 2018 13:43:18
Not been funny but is Poch nailed on coming to us? the way everyone bangs on about him it's asif he's definitely coming and we've got OGS a a plan b if he does well imo look how well spurs are doing at minute also the direction that clubs going why would you want to leave to come old Trafford also when Real Madrid are knocking on your door? What if spurs win league where does he go from their as they have just as much chance as anyone are we really that big headed that we think we can get anyone we want? We're not the old Manchester United and I don't think it's that easy!

27 Dec 2018 14:13:40
Poch, Spurs do not have enough transfer budget to attract world class players considering the recent inflation in transfer fees.
Whereas at United, his ambitions can be matched.

27 Dec 2018 14:15:18
I don't think many on here are assuming that poch is automatically going to say yes if we come calling.

But its pretty clear that the manchester united board are going to push the boat out to get him, whether that's paying the required compensation to get him out of spurs, making him the highest paid manager in the league or giving him a huge transfer budget to spend in the summer.

If it was a straight choice between real and us, i am sure poch would choose real but are they seriously willing to pay that much compensation considering the fact they change their manager on an annual basis anyways.

27 Dec 2018 15:47:26
Spurs won't win the league and aren't a big enough club to attract the players that Poch needs to go to the next level.

26 Dec 2018 23:57:13
Shoot me down with the "every game as it comes", "take a pill its only two games" and whatever i haven't thought of, but, imagine and its still a long long shot. if Ole guided us to fourth. how would people feel about Poch etc coming in? Ole has such charisma, likability that it would be hard to see him off into the sunset? Ok, ok, its conjecture but its not impossible to make up the points. Perhaps spurs are hoping Ole will do a great job. thoughts?

27 Dec 2018 07:26:23
Sometimes the right man for the job doesn't appear to be the best candidate on paper.

Ole has a chance to prove he has what it takes, let's see what happens.

Make no mistake if we get top 4 and a good run in the UCL while playing good football and making the supporters happy then Ole stands a great chance of getting the job full time and if he does then he will have earned it.

But as it stands it is only two games against not the best opposition.

Whether Ole is good enough will be determined when he comes up against Poch and Spurs, Tuchel and PSG, Sarri and Chelsea, Emery and Arsenal, Klopp and Liverpool and obviously Pep and City. If he can prove himself against the best managers and the best teams and prove himself equal to them then he will have earned the right to be Manchester United manager full time.

In the mean time let's enjoy the ride, we are seeing entertaining football, played with passion, flair and attacking intent. We have a manager who is saying the right things, has the right attitude with the press and is putting his positive stamp on the team. Bringing smiles to the players faces and to the fans.

It took Jose 5 games at the start of this season to score 8 goals, and that was with two years of work with this squad of players and the luxury of a whole pre-season. However, Jose also conceded 8 goals in his first 5 games this season. Does that make Ole a better manager? No, but it shows he is a better fit for our club.

27 Dec 2018 07:42:04
Bohzman, spurs are not the only ones hoping he does a great job.

I for one would prefer Ole to Poch IF Ole can demonstrate that he can do the job. He is certainly doing that at the moment even if it is early days.
United are in his blood. He understands the club and the ethos.
Best way forward for me. If he shows he can do it, then get him the best support team there is.

All going well so far.

27 Dec 2018 10:08:13
Thanks guys, yeah we in are early days for sure and this question could be completely irrelevant come February, March or April but I for one would like Ole to take the place by storm and leave a real dilema. Thanks for your thoughts.

27 Dec 2018 10:25:19
I think we need to try and not to be prisoners of the moment. I love ole and I am loving what he is doing at the moment. I am itching to watch united and I haven’t felt like that in years. But harder games will come and it will be easier to judge whether he is capable of staying or not. I think we just need to stick the the plan. He is here as interim and only that. Poch should be the one who takes over in the summer as I think he is a better manager and is better suited if we want to get back to the top.

27 Dec 2018 10:44:21
Poch for me is still the perfect long term candidate, ole at the moment is just showing how bad things had got under Jose .
That said it will be interesting to see where ole can take the team over the coming months.

27 Dec 2018 10:48:17
It's too early to be having this conversation we were good against a poor cardiff and average against the worst team in the league at home.

27 Dec 2018 12:23:31
Great start for ole. There is some positive vibes for the 1st time in a long time.
As it stands ole is here until the end of the season.
If he does exceptionally well then he might give the club something to think about.
I love his attitude and his positivity.
We have lots of areas to restructure within the club.
A dof?
New manager?
Several contracts coming to an end.
Scouting.
But it all seems less daunting when the team is playing well.
Only time will tell if ole is a potential candidate long term.
Poch seems to be most peoples choice and for me he stands out above any other epl candidate such howe dyche silva etc who have all been mentioned on here.
Lots of other options out there if poch doesn't fancy it and if ole isn't selected.

27 Dec 2018 13:14:18
It is very early, but I for one have a very open mind.

27 Dec 2018 15:10:04
Don’t think there can be a person on here that would I not want OGS if he does a great job! I’d much rather him than Poch if he can do the business.

27 Dec 2018 16:51:03
Sentiment

We are a bunch of sentimental softies and it is one of the reasons the club haven’t won more than they have, have never established themselves as world No1 fully. Madrid, Barca, Bayern and the Scousers all did it but they weren’t hamstrung by sentiment.

We all love Ole Solskjaer, it connects us with that wonderful balmy night nearly 20 years ago that sends tingles down your spine, maybe it was the greatest moment of the club, who can forget where they were, I can’t. However, here we are two games in and some are showing that sentiment about him as manager. Yes, he has brought freshness, but the club needs more, it needs a new approach, a restructuring from within whilst developing youth. Take a step back and realise Ole is a good Guardian for 6 months, brings some positivity to the club but can he handle setbacks, pressure? There is none at the minute, as a temp he can go in with a smile but wait until he has to be tough, perhaps unpopular with one or two, who need to be shifted out, how will he fare then? It is different when it is permanent and the expectations grow massively.
Let’s enjoy his effervescence and positive outlook, but let’s not mistake that for what is needed and that is Pochettino.

27 Dec 2018 17:18:48
I know. Look where going for CV's, experience, plans and reputations has got us 😉.

27 Dec 2018 19:00:25
Nou

Right, Let’s not plan or bother with experience and give it someone who we all like, says the right things and right now has won two games. We would be lurching into another crisis whilst the Scousers have a plan, whilst City have Pep and we would leave Poch at Spurs. Playing for fourth from then on, but hey Ole is one of our own. Woodward cannot afford to get this wrong, neither can the club, it is too big. There is no part for sentiment.

27 Dec 2018 19:51:06
I never said I'd give him the job. My tongue-in-cheek comment was aimed at those who believe a CV and a plan is all that is required. Sometimes, someone just fits. I see it in my job all the time. Guys with loads of fast-track qualifications and big ideas, but not one clue how to get the best out of people.

28 Dec 2018 15:02:40
Don't forget all the comments about poch not winning anything .
People will change there view now the special one has gone.

28 Dec 2018 18:03:59
Yeah, jred. I thought a history of winning trophies was an absolute prerequisite for wanting to manage Utd. 😁.

29 Dec 2018 09:30:24
Nou and Jred

It is about getting the right manager for the club. For me Pochettino is challenging and displaying what it takes and I believe is ready to take the next step in winning trophies. The sentiment overflows on here but getting the next appointment wrong will be disastrous, with Pep, Klopp and Pochettino at rivals we will struggle. Take the sentiment about Ole away and make a decision. I said when we went for Jose that Poch was a dark horse, should be considered, however, I think he has now displayed enough to be first choice. Of course, our owners may prefer to play the sentiment card so they don’t have to pay Spurs for Poch’s release clause, so sentiment may suit that. It is a massive decision yet some want to make it after 2 games, it’s sentiment driving it.

29 Dec 2018 17:45:58
You really have a low opinion of your fellow supporters, if you think we"re so stupid and sentimental, that we'd want a manager in just because he scored a few goals for us.

30 Dec 2018 16:21:21
Nou

We have been through Give it to Giggs, now it’s give it to Ole. You find most match goers are different when you talk at the game, but now with social media it’s full of sentiment.