Manchester United Banter Archive September 27 2012

 

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27 Sep 2012 22:51:22
When I saw the new match attax collection I was stunned when I saw Nani was man utds star player as I do not think he is good enough for united in my opinion
We should probably sell him to an abroad club and then try and sign a new winger
Ronaldo maybe too ambitious but maybe someone like Muniain or gaitan

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Nani is better than gaitan and always will be I think
he is also better than muniain although muniain will probably become better than nani in a few years

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As much as people slate Nani, no one can say that on his day he is one of the best in the world, But.. his day only comes once or twice a season.

I really do hope Nani changes this season, he needs to prove himself or he will be gone summer.

-JakeW

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27 Sep 2012 22:48:09
I searched up the word muniain on this page and I was disappointed to find no results I think he's a quality player and could be like messi also he's way better than that Lucas person whom we spent all summer trying to get and it came to nothing
Also he would be cheaper
So I think we should dig deep and try and sign this kid because in January because if we don't he'll probably end up at a club like Barcelona real Madrid or psg

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Are you joking...

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You may have spelled the name wrong, a few have spoken about him.

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The page only goes back so far...

search the Archives and you will see he has been mentioned a lot and is hold with high regard...

Oxred

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Are you joking...?
his name has been mentioned hundreds of times.

JK92

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Can't have searched very well.

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I used search on this page

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27 Sep 2012 21:30:39
Team to play Chelski in league cup - I know I know, ages away! (fitness of players assumed)

___________DDG
Verj__M Keane__Woot__Buttner
____Jones__Fletcher__Ando
______Rooney___Welbeck
_________Hernandez

Would love to see this line up.

DodgyBanter

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Don't think Jones will be back for chelsea. We should have Smalling available though!

kdevil10

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27 Sep 2012 21:22:27
-------------DDG-------------

Rafael---Evans---Rio----Buttner

------Fletch-Ando-Clevz-------


-------Rooney------Kagawa---

--------------RVP-------------

With the fullbacks pushing on, this could be a great team.I have to say i was really impressed with Fletcher yesterday, played the DM role excellently for someone who just came back from injury. I hope he regains his best form because he is a top player and guy.

MelonRed

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But then Rafael and buttner will be left 1 on 1

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27 Sep 2012 20:29:32
People here often rate Tiote very highly. But I dont think he can add anything to our midfield. IMO he's a big defender playing in midfield and the amount of passing he can do is to be expected from a player playing in the PL. He's way to slow and isnt even one-fourth of a player that Yaya Toure is. I would rather have Christopher Samba playing in my midfield rather than Tiote and he wouldn't cost that much either.

SHAITAN

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Samba over Tiote in mid-field! Hilarious! Made my day!

kdevil10

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27 Sep 2012 20:19:06
Anyone see the goal scored by Dimitri Mitchell for England schoolboys. I don't think I have seen his name on here but looks a little like a very young John Barnes , nice balance

Red Man

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Remember that name Dimitri Mitchell, many kids fall away after starring at that level I remember John Curtis as an exampe but keep an eye out for Mitchell , he definitely has potential

Red Man

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He's in the United U16's. Not seen much of him at all.

Sydney!

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Sydney

Take a good look the kid could be something special

Red Man

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Red Man, I will keep a look out for him in the Victory Shield. He is in the same team as Rhain Davis for United. That Australian Whizkid we signed years ago.

What do you make of Wilson? Not long turned 16 and bagged five goals the other day.

Sydney!

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To the person disagreeing is there a reason? Have you seen this kid play? I strongly support seeing our kids come through if they are good enough and Mitchell has real potential IMO.

Red Man

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27 Sep 2012 18:20:56
Shame on the FA for a pathetic punishment for John Terry. 4 games what a joke. If you or I had done it from the stands we would be banned for a season at the very least. What message does this send out. I AM KLOOT

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But how can he be found not guiltily on the court of law but the FA charge him ?

Dio

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Dio, because the FA didn't criminally charge him. They tried him on the grounds of their own internal rules and regulations, of which he admitted being in breach of.

But I agree Kloot, a four game ban and minor fine (for Terry's wages) is pathetic. Gently nudging racism to the periphery of football.

Danny Pughnited

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Court of law has to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he racially abused Anton Ferdinand. They couldn't do that.

G.A.G.U.S

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Dio

In a criminal case you have to be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt but civil matters are on the balance of probability.

Red Man

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It's taken them nearly a year to find him guilty of being racist and then award him a 4 game ban which is only 1 game more then a straight red!

How that organisation come to some of their decisions baffle me!

Noticed they've also overturned a rule that will allow Bernstein to stay on beyond his 70th birthday! Jokers

Ports

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Any fan doing likewise would get a minimum 3 year banning order
johndenton

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And how many games did Rooney get for swearing into the camera?

F**king joke!

The guy running the kick out racism part for the FA should just leave his post. Total pointless position getting fully undermined by bull sh*t decisions like this!

Jono

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4 games is a joke.

DodgyBanter

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They just have no consistency Suarez got 8 games so surely you'd think as that as a minimum

GD

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27 Sep 2012 18:18:24
Interesting to see us linked with Wanyama, Strootman and Vidal. Strootman however I feel will be the best bit, Strootman at £20 million is far better value than Vidal at £40 million and I generally don't feel that Wanyama is all that good. Strootman is perhaps one of the few bargains out there, much like Kagawa was. I wouldn't say that I 'expect' to see Strootman here come January, however I believe that it is highly plausible.

As for Varane .. I can't see it, can you?

Fresh!

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Vidal is worldclass and if we got him for 40 mills he'd be worth every penny.

Mick

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27 Sep 2012 19:17:32
I don't think we'd spend that much in Jan, more likely summer.

And is Vidal really valued at 40? Thats a joke, worth 25 at best.

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Vidal is worth allot of money, certainly more than the 14m Juve had to shell out last summer but nowhere near the 40m mark. The fact we could have had him for that 1 year ago would have a big say in anything we offered. He is definitely worth 25m IMO, I would have been happy to pay that last summer but him and Marchisio have made a great partnership with pirlo and I cannot see why Juve would sell after 2 years when he is so important.

I still think as I did last year in that we missed the boat on this one big style!

Jono

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Jono
the likes of Cabaye and moutinho are beeing priced at 25-30 mills, modric 4. These are today's market prices wether we like it or not. Now vidal is the best defensive minded midfielder in the world, a class aboce modric and a couple above your beloved cabaye, plus he's 25 so relativly young. 40 is a very good price for a player of his ability. Another season like the one he just had and 40 mils would be a bargain for him.

Mick

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27 Sep 2012 22:44:27
It would be annoying if we do buy Vidal for £40 million when we could have got him for £14 million. I still think that Kevin Strootman is a good bet - and quite possibly Angelo Ogbonna. But if we want to go English then Luke Moore is a possibility, however he has just signed a new deal.

Fresh!

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Mick

I'm a really big Vidal fan. I followed his move from Leverkusen hoping we got involved but we never. Juve got a cracking player at that time and he has excelled last season as expected. I just think mate that although he is a very good all round midfield player he wouldn't be in the 40m bracket for me. I don't reall rate any CMer as high as that maybe Bastian at a push.

As I have said previously if we get another 50+m to spend next year I would love to end up with a CM 3 of fletcher just behind Vidal and Cabaye. That would give us a very combative CM that also have the playing ability to keep the ball against top opposition.

Jono

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27 Sep 2012 18:02:47
I think this should be our team for the weekend

-----------DDG-------------
rafael-rio-evans-buttner
----------carrick------------
----cleverly-anderson----
----------kagawa----------
--------rooney-RVP--------

united4life97

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Spooky, just posted something along the same general lines in terms of losing wingers and using Rafael and Buttner to provide width.

AJH

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Tottingham will play wingers. Pretty good wingers too. Perhaps, and I realise this could be a craaaazy idea, but perhaps we should have some players who have a chance of covering defensively? Buttner and Rafael bombing on with all our midfielders playing in the centre circle is likely to lead to Bale/Lennon getting man of the match (and 3 points).

(Sorry, obviously feeling very sarcy tonight)

DodgyBanter

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28 Sep 2012 00:49:57
Does it really matter that much if Bale and Lennon get around our defence? I mean seriously do we think that little of Rio and Evans that we think they will be out jumped for the ball by Defoe? I think its much more important that we are solid through the centre and that we play to our strengths than worry too much about Bale and Lennon. If we play wingers and full backs thats four players to stop two of Spurs players, the only options we'd have left is play a two man midfield and be over run in the centre again or play a three man midfield but only have one player up top leaving them isolated and hard for us to score.

Shappy

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27 Sep 2012 17:34:33
is strootman good enough for united? Being dutch he'd settle in well with buttner and van persie here but i'm not sure he's as good as made out. I'd rather have vidal who's proven in a higher league than strootman and would settle in well with our big latin american contingent.

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Being a CMer who can play then yes he is good enough.

Jono

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27 Sep 2012 17:02:43
There are non as blind as those who cannot see. I have never read such rubbish as I am seeing today. We just about held on and beat a very average Newcastle team and all of a sudden Anderson and Cleverly are the answer. Well lets just look at that. Anderson has only just got his breath back now he was so shattered. His fitness is a disgrace and Fergie obviously thinks so. As for Cleverly once Rooney had gone off he disappeared into his shell. He has got to start making forward runs and passes rather than just passing sideways. I have seen nothing to convince me that either is good enough at the highest level. I AM KLOOT

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Finally a sensible post.

SHAITAN

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Thought we played well going forward until Rooney came of

James

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There's always a couple of moaners! It was a huge improvement and we played with a very young team! Anderson did very well actually and buying new players isn't always the answer! We did well and beat the team in front of us. If I'm honest I'd like to see Anderson start against spurs and see how he does!
Just stop the moaning it was a good shift from the young lads and I think with them and the rest of the squad we can do very well this year!
Q

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Exactly James and then it all went to pieces. I AM KLOOT

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Kloot, I half agree. Cleverley has potential but I'm still not convinced. Whilst Ando has been a disappointment so far, I thought he was excellent last night.

AJH

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27 Sep 2012 19:01:19
Kloot mate why is your glass ALWAYS half empty? We had a much better performance then we've seen in a long while, with a shade more luck last night then Hernandez and Cleverleys first effort would have gone in and we'd have won 4-1 with a very inexperianced back line of which two of them were making their debuts, Anderson did have a good game despite tiring towards the end and Fletcher made his first start in 10 months and played well. Rooney played his come back and did very welll, and Hernandez showed signs of improvement in areas of his game that were lacking.

All in all a much better game then what we've seen recently, why can't we be happy that the team took a step in the right direction last night?

Are they playing well enough to be world betters? No but we looked like we are moving in the right direction. Things don't change overnight but take time, I think last night showed we are moving towards playing a better style of football. But if being bitter and twisted is your thing then you crack on, just don't expect me to be as well.

Shappy

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Kloot

I fully agree mate. I will say we looked better but this over enthusiasm after struggling to contain a more reserve than our team is way over the top.

We know Ando and Clevs play well together against weaker teams they did so v a youth arsenal team, a depleted spurs team last year but a good performance v Newcastle reserves is hardly enough for Ando fans to start crawling out the woodwork. He was still wasteful in passing but he worked more than normal which shone through. He was also more direct with his running something he never tries against better opposition.

He is still nowhere near good enough IMO.

The big positives were buttner, Rooney, Vermijl, the more positive play and Fletcher. I was very sceptical about his return but it is looking very positive and it highlighted how we can operate with a mobile player who plays with his head up covering the back 4.

Jono

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27 Sep 2012 19:19:10
I think Anderson still has it in his locker... he is still young enough to make it, patience is a virtue. Cleverley is not old or wise enough to take a game by the scruff of the neck yet, but he keeps it tidy, maybe that is what he has been told to do for a season or two. He isn't anywhere near the finished article yet, still has years on his side and I personally think, given time and patience, he will blossom in to a really good talent for us. It's not a sprint to the finish when developing players for the future, it's slower paced than that.

Whistler.

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Snappy has a point. As a performance, it was probably the best so far this year other than one half against Wigan. However, worlds like brilliant, outstanding, and tremendous are probably overstating things a little.

AJH

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27 Sep 2012 19:19:58
Exactly Shapps, it was a start in the right direction i just hope he carries it on. We've both been saying about a midfield 3 for ages now. Now he's seen it works so stick with it rather than the pedestrian crap we've had all season so far. Mort

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Your posts are really infuriating Kloot, you just have to moan don't you? Our two goal scorers who played pass after pass and provided the link between Fletcher and and the forward line...yet you just have to have a go at them. Newcastle played well, they had several chances and din't convert them thanks to good pressure from us all around the pitch. I would say that game was our best performance of the season, and I think many would agree...so jog on back to wherever you came from and split hairs about something else, your type of comments aren't needed.

Andy!

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We have Dembele and Spurs coming up, let's see how we do against a first 11 proper pl team. All the people who think all our problems are solved because of beating a second string nc team in the round of 32 of Capital One Cup are delusional. Losing Vidic is huge problem and no signs of Smalling or Jones so we will be in for a tough 6 weeks guys, so everyone buckle up. Shahram

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Wow kloot m8 u really are a downer aint ya lol, ok lets look at cleverly, I agree with what you say in he has yet to prove he is any sort of answer to our long time central midfield problems, but i think ppl get a little bit excited when they see a utd central midfield work and who can blame us, we have had to sit and watch it not work on so many occasions and over a few seasons. ok it was against a weakned newcastle but all the same there was a confidence u sensed about them and there job.
You say too many passes of cleverly's go side ways (and i bet your right in terms of stat's) but you have to look where those side ways passes are made on the pitch, it's totally different than watching carrick, when he has one of those days, passing the ball side ways just in front of our defence, but because of cleverly's great movement he gets into dangerous parts on the pitch and simply just passes it(under pressure too) on to our forwards. so I have no real problem with that atm.
You say he needs to go forward more, but aint all us utd fans crying out for a more deep lying player which he is trying to become, but he is going to need games often in order to gain expirence, so dont you agree atm he is our best option in terms of a battling cm with skill, movement and technique and come jan we will have more of a clue if he going to be that? As for ando well i think we all know he can be a very good CM but his attitude seems to stink and that seems up to him, but this does seem to be last chance salon for him(fat git lol).
Soz for the length :)
Chris the REDman

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Well maybe if fergie gave anderson games instead of ancient giggs, he'll get used to playing 90 mins

TRUMORS

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End of the day lads you can only beat and play who is front of you and that's what Anderson and Cleverley did!

What impressed me with Anderson was that he was up against Tiote, arguably the most physical CM in the league and Anderson didn't shirk the physical side and wasn't afraid to get stuck in! Something people on here are saying we are lacking!

Ports

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27 Sep 2012 15:20:34
Strootman wants to quit PSV in January and his preferred move would be to Man United. Ferguson is an admirer of the central midfielder, is he a possibility? AyrshireRed87

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27 Sep 2012 15:12:16
John Terry receives a 4 match ban along with £220,000 fine (so a weeks wage lol)

4 games he misses will include (IF its immediate effect) - Arsenal, Norwich, Spurs and United

Giants14

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He has 14 days to appeal the decision and, so long as the FA don't cut it to a 1 game ban, that will mean he misses the United game regardless. Every little helps.

TK-Red {Ed002's Note - It will be 14 days after the written report is issued if you are going to start trying to pick this apart.}

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Fair enough Ed but with the Chelsea game being on 28th October, the ban is still likely to cover that game unless the decision is overturned or the ban significantly reduced.

TK-Red

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He should be playing against us, he's been rubbish this season.

SHAITAN

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If he appeals, it will be increased. Has there ever been a more arrogant, illiterate, ignorant oaf of a player.

AJH

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True, SHAITAN but he has a nasty habit of raising his game against us.

TK-Red

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He is a thrash, would not worry about him, definitely on a decline and will not be factor.

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27 Sep 2012 14:47:10
I though Fletcher looked better than Carrick even after a year off!

RebelRed

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27 Sep 2012 12:52:23
we've been lined with strootman, vidal, albiol and varane today, out of the 4 which 2 would you like the most?

id go for vidal and varane.

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Strongman and Varane. Kuala

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Vidal and varane

Devil for Life

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Seen puss in Stroots play a couple of times, he really is a very good player.

Whistler.

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Albiol?

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Well vidal is worldclass and the best ball winner in the world. I would love to have him. Varane has lot of potential but i would go with shalke's papadoupoulos.

Mick

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Vidal and strootman.

I also think shapps would need to change his underpants if we signed both!

Jono

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28 Sep 2012 00:54:22
I think your right there Jono;-) lol.

Shappy

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Cabaye and vidal, and id be a happy man. Same goes for jono imo.

Mick

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27 Sep 2012 12:52:04
Can i just say that all though Anderson played well in the first half, scored a goal and made some good runs did anybody see him in the second half.
The guy was gasping for air all the way through the second half and at one point he looked like he was gonna collapse.
Hi fitness is absolutely shocking and there is no way that he can be relied upon in big games against teams that play the ball around and break with speed.
I thought that Rooney was superb given the fact he hadnt played for a number of weeks. His passing of the ball long and short was brilliant and he made the game look easy.
Another positive was seeing Fletcher running about chasing down the ball and doing what he does best.
Im glad Cleverley scored but im afraid im just not convinced that he will be this top player what people are saying.
On another note United are today being linked with Kevin Strootman who could leave PSV for a little as 15 million which would be an absolute bargain in my eyes.
I would like to see Moutinho come in as well. Spurs agreed a 20 million pound price for him and he is worth every penny.
With those two in it would cover the fact that Scholes retires next year and Giggs will play less and less (HOPEFULLY)

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Agree Simmo

i have been saying for over 2 years Anderson is a waste of time and effort along with Nani... Hernandez and Wellbeck for me are just not quality at all and to compare them with Sherringham and Solskjaer..is a complete joke by Sir Alex... Anderson needs to lose a couple of stone... Nani needs get his round the fact he is not Ronaldos replacement and Wellbeck is bambi... shocking control and Hernandez just as not got anything about him... ie control etc ..no body shape...iw as impressed with Wooton,Keane,Buttner Cleverly did ok, Fletcher getting there..Rooney head and shoulders last night...i know there is links to players..and would like strootman/ moutinho/ Lewandowski to compliment Kagawa.... Will Keane when fit will be a good 4th striker.... know where the net is and will be England Quality...

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Absolutely right, Anderson's fitness is non existant. He is not the answer. Moutinho is absolute class and can pass and tackle. Strootman will be great to add steel.
If we buy those two and saf decides to play intelligent tactics (questionable), then we will have a fantastic team.
NoMidfield

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Completely disagree mr no namer.....

you must have been sniffing glue throughout the match!

hernandez last night was superb!! his link up play with midfield was spot on, he finally was able to hold the ball up and pick out a pass the majority of the time, couple of nice through balls he made, and was very unlucky to not have been included on the scoresheet.....we dont need strootman and moutinho...certainly certainly not.....what we need is either or in my opinion preferabbly strootman as i really think hes going to be a world class midfielder and a good solid left winger would be us sorted......think nani needs to move on its his time

anderson really impressed me in that first half he really did, but he completely disappeared in the 2nd half, his fitness is absolutely shocking for being of premiership standard.....he really needs a kick up the backside by the coaching staff and put him on a strict diet and get him fit as a fiddle......if he could play the way he did the first 45mins for the majority of a game and most games we wouldnt have a need for another central midfielder not if fletcher stays fit that is (if he got injured we would defo need a DM)

Got a feeling strootman could be OT bound in Jan!

Robbo

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Robbo
"we dont need strootman...what we do need is preferably strootman" ...who as been sniffing the glue now...
Hernandez not good enough ..end of..

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Ahh fickle aren't we. Robbo mate, i wish we could have you post in a couple of months. you obviously believe a decent performance against a newcastle second team has changed a lot. Don't you think its odd that whenever we play a decent team a no name midfielder suddenly looks like a star and a target. we need to get serious squad improvements to compete in big games in Europe and the league. We need Moutinho,Strootman, Munian, and more to win a trophy this year. Shahram

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27 Sep 2012 11:44:22
ed how come my posts are not getting through ??

Devil Dust. {Ed002's Note - You have to wait for someone to OK them.}

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Maybe they are carp posts hrhrhr

Pardoe

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Something fishy about that last post. Kuala

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27 Sep 2012 11:22:27
can anyone tell me why manunited is not in the nextgen competition.I really think that united should give first team oppurtunities to young players like petrucci and powell

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Isn't that the under 21s I thought we had a team in group 2.....or ave I lost the thread all together?

Pardoe

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27 Sep 2012 19:05:51
David Gill said that it didn't fit in with what we are doing with the youth atm and it would be a distraction. Its a choice by the club not to enter it even though we've been invited to enter on many occasions.

Shappy

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27 Sep 2012 19:24:13
There are some teams signing up next season apparantly, not sure who though...
The U21's is a different thing mate.

Whistler.

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27 Sep 2012 10:49:17
On last nights game :

The most impressive thing for me last night was Fletchers performance. He was brilliant at just sitting in front of the two CBs making himself available to receive the ball and passing the ball quickly forward to Ando and Clevz.
For me him just protecting the back 4 was more eye catching than the way he played before the illness...I thought at times he ran round like a headless chicken. He offers more than Carrick IMO as he demands the ball is quicker to play it forward has more energy and seems to just think and act quicker than him.
I know he still has a long way to go in his recovery but I have to say I would be well happy with Fletch sitting and Clevz or Ando ahead of him that would be miles better than (Carrick/Giggs/).

Rooney showed last night just how good he is and how easy he makes the game look he always seemed to have time on the ball head up short passes long passes shooting the lot.
The injury was a blessing cause he looks a different player than the first couple of games.

Surely a fit Ando Fletch and Clevz is the way forward for Cm Giggs and Carrick are not as good as them 3 and Schloes can certainly still come on to help them see out games whenever needed.

Still I wont be surprised to see Carrick and Scholes line out against Spurs this weekend...unfortunately!

Devil Dust.

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DD, if Anderson could playlike he did in the 1st half all the time, he would start every game. But....he doesn't. It's a shame as he can look absolute class. But in all his years at United he has never strung a run of quality games together. Not sure if it is injuries, weight, or fitness but I wish we would fix it as he clearly has all the ability.

AJH

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27 Sep 2012 10:31:29
I think that was a much better performance tonight looked more like a united team going forward was happy with the young guns! With fletcher giving that little bit cover in front of the defence made a difference cleverley and Anderson had a gd game in the middle and wazza pulled the strings in the middle defo was a more positive match compared to the games we have seen recently

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27 Sep 2012 09:04:25
C1 Game Newcastle

In truth I did not expect to see anything other than a lackluster performance but a pleasant surprise indeed, it turned out to be good game with good movement all around the park. Rooney looked really good in the first half controlling and dictating the pace of the game and his 40 yard pass to Welbeck on the left flank was as good as the Ginger Prince's in his younger days. Rooney's comeback will sure help in the upcoming games.

Fletcher was good at DM, not only did he help the new boys at the back but tackled and linked well with Ando in front, except for a few miss-passes his return to the field looked good. Ando was the best player on the park last night, his movement and linkup play with Cleverley and Welbeck was much better than what we have seen in the past this season. Cleverley too moved and distributed well, if only he had not missed that sitter. Chicha has looked good in the last few matches and more game time will help but will have to improve on his finish.

The back four new boys did a great job, considering their inexperience and the fact that they had to deal with likes of Coloccini, Gosling, Ameobi and Williamson. Keane was superb especially in the first half, was wonderful in the air as well as on the ball, did not put a foot wrong in the first half but to survive in EPL will need to beef-up, Wootton did well in Keane's company a good cool and composed pair looks good for the future.

Fergie did good to accommodate a few youngsters though a lot of us wanted to see Henriquez, hope we'll get that opportunity sooner than later.

There is only one aspect of last night that reminded me of our failure to deal with players like Felianni, Dembele, Lambart and last night Cisse when they take the ball with their back to our goal, control it, and shoot at goal on the turn or pass it to an unmarked player. Last night Cisse did it with ease and we were lucky that his overhead kick hit the cross bar. Last season another player who use to play for Fullam and now plays for QPR (can't get his name) he along with Adobayer love doing it all the time, they just spread their arms wide with their back to our players close to our box, then usually trip over our player if they turn(if our player is too close to them) earning then a free kick or a penalty or they will shoot on the turn or pass, it's a strategy that all these players use against our team but looks like we have not found a solution to this problem, look at the way Cisse took the ball on his chest then lifted it with his foot and then the overhead kick and it nearly worked as none of our players thought of rushing onto him from the front. Our coach should look at this carefully as it could lead to goals against us.

Overall happy with the performance our team put in, future looks good but hope the present will change for the better, the average age of our team last night must have been around 21. Glad we are Red - Fred

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Hi Fred

Agree with pretty much all you say there mate, it was a terrific performance with so many plusses.

I think the player you refer to but couldn't remember the name of is Bobby Zamora.

Red Rob

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Fred a lot of good points but wotton is not good enough and will be moved on, slow feet. shahram

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27 Sep 2012 08:20:27
Youngsters looked good tonight. Midfield looks a lot more steady without Carrick.

We had 4 inexperienced defenders but they were under little pressure cos they were well shielded by Fletcher plus Cleverly & Anderson put opposing teams on the backfoot.

Its time to give youth a chance to freshen up midfield. I know Anderson struggles to last 90 mins but the only way that will improve is with games. He pushes the team forward & is very hard to get off the ball.

Carrick out...Cleverley/Anderson in !!!!

Bullseye50

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