Manchester United Banter Archive December 28 2011

28 Dec 2011 19:12:12
Have we ever shown an interest in Hulk?

This guy would be brilliant at United. Can play both wings, SS and up top brilliantly. Surely there can only be a limited amount of time before a big team goes in for him.

He has speed, stamina, strength and a mean left foot.

RedDevil92

28 Dec 2011 17:41:36
Interesting reading...

liverpool trying their best to win the title with spending loads lol even if they won this season look at the cost for it- well...no surprise to see chelski and s**teh buying the title- even if s**teh won the title this season it would cost nearly half a billion ! Some respect to arsenal, no one can accuse them of buying the title and credit to man u, an average of 14 mil per title is amazing.

Liverpool have spent £552,105,000 on players in the last 19 years
Liverpool have sold players for £325,170,000 in the last 19 years
Nett spend over 19 years £226,935,000
Average per year £11,346,000
Titles won 1 ( if won this year )
Price per Title.... £226,935,000


Chelsea have spent £729,240,000 on players in the last 19 years
Chelsea have sold players for £224,275,000 in the last 19 years
Nett spend over 19 years £504,965,000
Average per year £25,248,000
Titles won 4 ( if won this year )
Price per Title.... £126,000,000

Man City have spent £655,180,000 on players in the last 19 years ( £489,450,000 in the last 4
Man City have sold players for £163,303,000 in the last 19 years ( £89,000,000 in last 4
Nett spend over 19 years £491,877,000
Average per year £24,593,000 ( £100,000,000 in the last 4 )
Titles won 1 ( if won this year )
Price per Title.... £491,877,000

Man Utd have spent £483,150,000 on players in the last 19 years
Man Utd have sold players for £300,590,000 in the last 19 years
Nett spend over 19 years £182,560,000
Average per year £9,128,000
Titles won 13 ( if won this year )
Price per Title.... £14,043,000

Arsenal have spent £340,690,000 on players in the last 19 years
Arsenal have sold players for £319,474,000 in the last 19 years
Nett spend over 19 years £21,216,000
Average per year £1,060,800
Titles won 4 ( if won this year )
Price per Title.... £5.043,000

28 Dec 2011 16:21:35
For my two cents on this whole future manager thing.
In my opinion there isn't the perfect manager anywhere in the world to take over from Sir Alex so it's no good just pointing out the flaws in managers and disgarding them as we'll soon be left with no one. Sir Alex is proberly the greatest manager in our history and if not the greatest certianly the most successful, so how do you follow that? The quailites we need in our next manager are:

*A big Character, they are taking over a job that hasn't been available for over a quarter of a century and following one of the greatest managers ever so they need the right mentality to handle that pressure.

*A proven track record. We can't afford a gamble on a up and coming manager straight after Sir Alex, maybe the manager after that certainly not to follow him.

*They need to play winning football. Now i've said "winning" not attractive as i feel anyone who doesn't win anything within a year or two of taking the job will be labeled a failure by the press and would proberly find the job untenable as such. I'm not saying i want to see defensive football at Old Trafford but we need to be realistic to the pressures the new manager will be under to win.

*They need to have a good youth policy. This i think is vital to the job as i don't think money will be to forthcoming from the owners for one and youth has been the policy of our club since the days of Sir Matt and to change that would put any manager off to a bad start.

*They need to be able to handle the press. With our club comes a huge amount of press interest, so whoever takes over needs to be able to handle themselves when under the press' scrutiny as slip ups tend to be blown up to ridiculus proportions in the press.

Now there are no managers who tick all the boxes on that list. But the one who comes closest is Jose Mourinho, Now i appreciate he is a contoversial figure but he has the ego to match the size of the task, he certainly has the track record and the ability to handle the press in this country. His record shows that he will almost certainly be able to win things with us. So the only things that our left is his youth policy and his "style" of football. Both of which have show signs of improvement since he took the Madrid job, has Sir Bobby Charlton's comments on youth been taken in by Jose? possibly. I think he takes a job and his winning mentality takes over and he uses what he has to make the team a winning team, at Porto he had little money yet used what he had to win the Champions league, at Chelsea he had a group of players who needed to know how to not lose before they could learn how to win, at Inter he had to play to the strengths of his squad as he didn't have a huge budget to spend and he won the treble, at Madrid a team where there is huge unrest due to the behind the scenes power struggles and where there is huge pressure to win a certain way and he is doing it.
I like him as a manager but feel the controversey he brings isn't great, but then again Sir Alex isn't without the odd controversey himself.

So is he the perfect manager to take over? No But is he the best available manager to? Yes.

So despite the issues he brings i don't think there is anyone else more suited to the job.

Shappy

28 Dec 2011 15:14:50
I think ravel morrison and pogba should go to bolton on loan. {Ed002's Note - That is not possible. You can no longer send two players to a single English or Welsh club on loan.}

28 Dec 2011 14:02:44
Ed,..do u have the return date for Cleverley.? Is he back for training.?
If he comes for the game against BB, it will be a Boost.
If we Hit 5 in that game as well, we will be almost at the top even with the Goal Diff. {Ed002's Note - There is no return date given at this time.}

28 Dec 2011 12:47:49
Edd there is also talk of Fergie letting go of macheda and diouf on loan,selling Owen,Kusckak,Gibson and Berbatov..and sign a striker,2 midfielders (1 defensive and other attacking) and a striker of Ricky Wolfswinken l,,Hw true is this Ed? {Ed002's Note - Twitter perhaps?}

28 Dec 2011 12:15:10
I haven't seen as much of Pogba as i have of Morrison but i think Morrison looks pretty good, with Pogba what i have seen he hasn't shined too much but at the end of the day they are both young and need a lot more game time before you start giving up on them yet.

28 Dec 2011 11:21:15
please no more sneijder talk!! its so boring!!

28 Dec 2011 10:10:54
I read alot of posts saying stop reading this paper, stop reading that paper but how reliable can the daily express be? Because they are reporting today the Man sh&£@y are after Pogba and Morrison as their contracts are running down? Anyone know if this can be true?

Ports

28 Dec 2011 08:13:48
hope everyone had a fantastic christmas.
Id like to weigh in on the manager debate thats been going on.
Firstly, sir alex has stated time and again that who ever takes over from him is goin to have to be VERY experienced.
If sir alex has any say, then we can forget all these young managers everyone keeps suggesting i.e ole, cantona, martinez, blanc, lambert, moyes and sadly even guadiola.
Personally i think we ll be lookin at managers with a lots of experience and a track record of sucess in terms of winning trofies. Its also got to be someone strong enough to take charge of the situation and not be a puppet.
The few names that come to mind are;
mourinho, ancelotti, loew... Guadiola's sucess could also mean his experience could be overlooked.
My personal favourite would have to be mourinho. His won trofies in 4 different countries. People suggest he needs a big budget, but how big was his budget at porto or inter where he won the CL?

People always complain about his boring style, but how boring is his style at madrid? He plays to his strengths, if he has alot of attacking players he plays attacking football.
People here have very selective memories, i mean have we always played attractive football under sir alex? Did we play any attractive football last season? But we won the league.
Sir alex may be building a team for the future but it does not mean the next manager wont put his own spin on it. Afterall, if the team fails to win trofies, guess who will be held accountable and fired? The new manager!
The new manager will not overhaul the entire squad but he will be allowed to bring in a few players of his own.

Millz

28 Dec 2011 08:00:44
I'm thinking SAF could enquire into the availability of Ozil at Madrid, especially if the rumours of him not getting along with his teammates is true.

It was known that SAF met with Ozil after he was one of the stars of the world cup but he opted to go to Madrid. He's young, skillful and would be perfect for the midfield and whilst not proven in the EPL he's tried and tested in Germany and Spain and on the international stage.

With Jose and SAF having a good relationship I think this could be a possiblility if not in Jan then come Summer.

Also Ed's, Syd or anyone else - will Madrid need to sell for the financial fair play rules? Previously they always seemed to be bailed out by the Spanish State, but with the eurozone problems this cannot happen anymore surely...

Adz {Ed002's Note - Don't worry about the FFP rules.}

28 Dec 2011 04:51:37
Hey boys,,
*ManuTd eyes modric move

-he has been heavily linked to United in jan txr window wid 10k per week
Source-

-singadia(india)

28 Dec 2011 02:19:08
www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/7398438/City-prepare-Hazard-bid

hazards agent sayin that city r likely to bid 25mil pounds for him and loan him bak for a year, he goes on sez hazard will be at... names 7 big clubs does not mention united, is this a sign were not attracting big players? also he represents mvilla and sez hes worth 16.6 mil pounds so we shud see if hes available if we can't get martinez

28 Dec 2011 00:54:44
The Liverpool page is hilarious! So far i've managed to decipher their foreign language and believe they feel they're going to sign Higuain and Ozil in January, think this beats Christmas day!