Manchester United Banter Archive May 28 2012

 

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28 May 2012 23:44:36
The thing that makes me laugh is Hazard said his decision would be based on position and playing time!? Chelski don't have a manager installed so how we're the assurances made? Poor form that he confirmed it on twitter too rather the clubs site or allowing them the stage, after all it's their money. Let's hope plan b is pretty good.

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Because the managers at chelsea do not pick the team or playing style.. we all know that...

Oxred

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28 May 2012 23:33:58
Just thought I would chuck my views into the mix. Until anything official comes out then it's impossible to be certain but it seems clear that hazard has opted for Chelsea. This throws up a few questions for me. If it was purely money based and they were genuinely in the mix surely he would have gone to city.
So why Chelsea? I believe it is the owners and the chief executives. Chelsea won the champions league, and abramovich is there hugging every player, pledging to spend and build a better team and cheering and celebrating with fans. Compare that to the glazers. I mean in all honesty since they bought the club have they ever really given a proper interview, tried to bond with fans or even set out a vague vision for the club. I sure as hell haven't seen anything of the sort, instead they sit and drain money off without even bothering with any acknowledgement of the fans or even the players. That alone explains to me why he chose Chelsea.
However I believe gill is also an issue. Everytime he is interviewed he comes across as a yes man, a bulls**tter and a company man. Does he seem passionate? No. Does he seem convincing? No. And more importantly does he seem like a man who if he offered you a deal you would sign it? Not to me he doesn't.
I don't think it's the end of the world that we missed out on hazard as he may never reach his world class potential, but I do think it is very easy to say money is available and we are in for players, when you don't get them.
RomanRunner

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He wanted to play and live in London and then Chelsea offered wages we couldn't or wouldn't compete with, if they didn't win the CL, he would be a United player

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Yes. If Chelsea didn't win the cl he may well be a utd player, because city can't have been that fussed or they would have blown everyone out the water financially.
However the minute another top team came in for him he suddenly didn't sign for us. If this was a one off then brilliant we can say he wants to live in London but suddenly every target we have the minute another team comes in we can't compete. Our much praised youngsters want out.
Anyone who can't see there is a problem must be blind. We are not paying the going rate for wages. You or me as die hard utd fans would take the lesser wages but foreign players with no real allegiances will not. That to me indicates we have a problem.
Put it simply if dc utd offered you 250k a week but salt lake offered you only 95k a week, where would you go?
RomanRunner

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28 May 2012 23:33:23
I would love for Real Madrid to jump in and take Hazard before he officially signs for chelsea as that would surely free up Ozil !

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28 May 2012 23:27:28
Right heres a little bit of challenge for everyone !!

You have unlimited funds ! BUT you cant make unrealistic signings aka ronaldo,messi etc make it as realistic as possible


____________________De Gea____________________
Rafael________Vidic_________Thiago Silva_____Lahm
___________Moutinho_________M'Villa___________ Nani_______________Kagawa_____________Rodriguez
___________________Rooney____________________

Obviously its debatable whether players would join but i think offered enough money my team would join

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----------------De Gea-----------------
Rafael---Subotic---Hummels/Vidic----Alba
----------------Martinez----------------
Lucas----------------------------Munian
-----------------Gotze------------------
-----------Rooney----------------------
-----------Higuain/Neymar--------------

Have gone for a young team which may be lacking a little experience but would certainly cause a lot of problems for opposition. All of the players would be available for the right price (with the exception of Alba and Neymar who may already be Barcelona players) and would probably come for the right wages.
T0MB0Z

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Valencia??

GDS

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6-8 new players, huh?
I'm sure they'd all settle in fast for ya. Thought you were trying to be realistic? Forget about the money factor, half your teams would struggle with communication.

M.D.

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To be honest I was having fun with it. What's the point in having money and not spending it - right? Communication issues aside (unlike Tevez - most people could probably learn the basics within their first season) - they'd take a lot of stopping and would be around for quite some time. Manchester City's starting 11 probably has 6-8 players signed in the past three years and they did pretty well this season?
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28 May 2012 23:24:34
so hazard is joining chelsea, what a tw*t he is, drogba misses that last spot kick in munich and he is coming to us or city, but he scores and his destiny is west london, eden what a shallow individual you are, would you of even considered chelsea a fortnight ago, no of course you wouldnt, i hope you enjoy finishing 30+ pts behind utd and city again next season, if ever there is a case for the word mercenary this is it,city would of equalled if not bettered the offer from the russian epl team, and as for united you only get one chance to join the religion that is mufc and you have blown it

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28 May 2012 23:21:12
ive been quite critical of our transfer policy under the glazers but i think the hazard transfer may not be there fault,
player and agent have confirmed that they agreed deals with city united and chelsea.
hazard said a few times he wanted first team football and CL, even mentioned spurs ,his father also said this.
i always had the feeling from him and his dad that at 21 his next move would be career based,
if he thinks chelsea are the better option at this moment at time there is not a lot we can do about it.
before everyone kicks of i know money will of been important but maybe it was not the final decision , would he of gone to chelsea with out CL football?

that said it is another top name we have missed out on , can we still compete at the top end of the market?

one last thing i think chelsea are buying well, good young players they might still add lucas hulk and guardiola i am starting to get the feeling abramovich is starting a new project
jred

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Agreed, the problem is I see us still spending a fair amount this summer, but we may be forced to spend the same amount on someone like Gaitan that we were going to spend on Hazard and that is bitterly disappointing for me. Yes it will prove the cash was there for players like Hazard, but all of us will be thinking "what if" after missing out on Hazard. Hopefully we can strike a deal with Porto for Rodriguez, but they have become a difficult club to deal with recently with their huge player sell-on clauses :(

Sydney!

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Sydney! - do you think we are going to give Gaitan 4+mil pa AFTER tax?

Mike

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No mate, I was talking about transfer fee, not salary. Should have been clearer sorry.

Sydney!

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Oh, believe me, Gaitan is probably a good bet. After all, SAF is willing to buy from the Portuguese league without even watching the player in action. And he'll pay WAY over the odds in a market lacking value.

Amazing what a 'good agent' can do to bring out the purse.

RED_SKY

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28 May 2012 23:16:47
James Rodriguez will become the latest trend on this site. Wouldn't be surprised to see Mario Goetze' name on here often too. Even though he is certainly staying.

G.A.G.U.S

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2009: Benzema
2010: Oezil
2011: Sneijder
2012: Hazard

Goetze is pencilled in to be 2013's transfer saga.

Matthew...

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Benzema and Oezil went to Madrid, we are rarely going to get a player when we are up against Madrid. Sneijder was a wage issue and Hazard looks like the same thing. Don't forget about Sanchez, he picked Barca over us. We need a top quality player that really wants to play in Manchester, it doesn't help that City and Chelsea have ruined the wage scale for other teams

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28 May 2012 23:15:20
I actually think Chelsea have really f***ed up here...

It looks as though their front 4 will be:

Mata--------Hazard--------Marin

-------------Torres-------------


Now to me whilst being a highly technically gifted team, these players are very lightweight, with the exception of Torres of course. Have Chelsea not spent the last few seasons lofting the ball up to Drogba? I guess Hulk coming in will give them some muscle but seriously if hazard signed for them because they won the Champions league, he must not have been watching the matches....

Anyway, glad that nonsense is all over so we can concentrate on completing the signing of Kagawa! Top Top player!

UNITED_LEGENDS

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28 May 2012 23:14:09
Come on guys!

When he announced he was coming to Manchester I thought we had a chance but since Chelsea won the CL imo there was nothing to hope for.

He had already stated he was willing to go to Spurs to erm 'guarentee first team football' or more like get his move to London so when it was a 2 horse race him and his agent waited and waited to announce his new club knowing full well Chelsea could match his demands (like we and City had), offer CL if they won the final and offer the London route.

All the playing No 10 role, guarantee games and playing his style of football was clearly stalling tactics as he would of seen how Chelsea play and in any CL games they have had nobody in that No 10 role unless it was parked on the edge of their box defending like everyone else haha.

Yeah we have missed out on a very good player who imo would have had the arrogance and confidence to succeed at us but on the other hand maybe us and City moved early to try and tie him down before Chelsea could guarantee the CL football as we both knew his prefered destination was London?

Anyway lets hope the players we have surely targetted as plan B come to fruitition and we have a successful summer with no more mention of Edan Hazard.

Jono

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28 May 2012 23:05:10
Got a big feeling it's now going to be an interesting summer now the Hazard business is sorted but who will actually be signed because we alll know we haven't a clue whats on Fergies mind.

United4Ever.

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My concern now is that if we want a player that is also wanted by Chelsea, city, real , barca then we will lose out as I believe there is a strategic wages cap. That is the very clear message from today and if it is clear to us then it will be clear to players as well

Red Man

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Yeah...the strategy is to not go bankrupt by giving everyone 200k a week.

M.D.

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MD

Our strategy is don't give anyone top wages Not everyone but noone can get top money out of the Glazers

We all saw what Rooney had to do to get money out of our owners

We are facing third at best but they have debts to pay , perhaps if we hadn't reduced the debts by 92m we could afford players

Red Man

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Red Man the £92m was paid after the transfer window had shut, not during. If we cannot get the targets SAF has shortlisted then the money should go to buying back bonds as it makes financial sense to do so. There is no point £92m sitting in the cash reserves collecting 1% in interest when we could reduce the bond debt who's interest rates are at a massive 8%. If we have missed out on our targets then the cash is better off going to the bonds than sitting in the cash reserves collecting dust. You working in finance should be able to understand that?

Sydney!

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Thanks Sydney! - thought I was going to have to repeat myself again -

Is Redman really in Finance?

Mike

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Yes he is, I do understand what Red Man means and I understand his frustration, but he does find it hard to understand that it isn't easy concluding deals for top players with teams like Chelsea, City, Anzhi & PSG that will pay excessive wages and the clubs like RM, Barcelona, Milan that can offer better locations than Manchester.

Sydney!

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Syd.

So, Catch-22 then isn't it mate?

If a player is world class, at least ONE of the teams you mentioned will be interested.

So what you're hinting at, is we literally should not even bother targeting world class talent anymore. Instead we should target mid-level players with potential who could go either way.

Biggest summer of SAF's career, IMO. Last summer, he told us one of the main reasons for not buying X or Y, was our immense youth prospects - namely, Ravel and Pogba.

What's the excuse going to be this summer?

RED_SKY

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We should keep trying to buy top class talent, but understand it isn't easy anymore. We used to be able to beat off opposition with cash, but the other clubs have caught up with us in terms of cash. Don't underestimate Kagawa, he is a very good player and just what we need. I can understand fully why we target potential as they do not usually make the radar of the top teams until they are fully ready. Chelsea could have bought both Hazard and Eriksen for nominal fees a couple of years ago, but they didn't want them. It's about getting in there early whilst players are still young. We did it with Ronaldo and we will continue to do it. The manager tried hard to bring in a midfielder last summer so I wouldn't listen to what the manager said in regards to Pogba and Ravel, he's talking nonsense. The manager will praise a player and sell him a week later, it's just how it works mate.

Sydney!

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28 May 2012 23:04:17
Ed do you think that Nani could be the key to our solution by playing him behind the striker he has pace trickery and can finish i think outwide he struggles due to lack of crossing ability just imagine this

_____________________De Gea__________________
Rafael_________Vidic___________Smalling_____Baines
___________Javi Garcia________Kagawa___________
Valencia______________Nani______________Rodriguez
____________________Rooney____________________ {Ed004's Note - Possibly but maybe not consistent enough to play there}

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Thats why i came up with the idea to try him there cus he has all the attributes of a striker imo plus he can actually finish and not cross i think on the break this team would be incredible

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You've got the "key" in central midfield.

M.D.

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28 May 2012 23:00:37
Not being funny but what is up with players signing for project clubs?? United were in 3 of last 5 cl finals... Chasing title this year only beaten on goal difference and winning the previous 3... Do they not see a future in united after fergie?? I do believe the money is there and it will be shown this transfer window but are united going to be able to sign the players the fans want or pick up potential again??

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In 3 of the past 5 finals, but absolutely destroyed in 2 of them. The winning team has gone on to improve every single year, we haven't. We as a club have gone backwards every year for the past 3, while our rivals have continued to improve.

We went from the best team in Europe in 2008 to being dismantled by the 9th best team in Spain and a tiny club from Switzerland.

Our midfield was carried by a 37 yr old who was forced/asked to come out of retirement. Our most consistent midfielder is a guy who has never been a regular for his national side. Our best youth prospects have walked away/sold. We are 1-2 years off losing the best manager in history with no one being good enough to step in.

Any non-british player would be absolutely crazy to join us for "football reaons". We will NEVER be able to win a bidding war with other big clubs for a highly sought after player.

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If a serious shake up dosent happen in midfield this summer I will be very, very worried. Our midfield consists of:

Carrick: Good player but in his 30s

Scholes: Genius but his legs have gone

Fletcher: Ill, even if he comes back who knows how long he will last

Cleverly: Good but unproven and seemingly injury prone

Anderson: Inconsistent, Injury prone, Overweight

Giggs: Legend but had a poor season, cant go on forever

Park: Showing his age, Very poor in possesion

Pogba: Huge Potential and exactly what we needed but on his way out unfortunatly

Can this midfield deal with the rigours of a premier league, champions league and fa cup?
Fergie will have something up his sleeve, just hope he isnt hamstrung by financial restraints.

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28 May 2012 23:00:16
Ŵe are clearly absolute toilet at signing good players. Good news is when scholes finishes we could try and dig George up god rest his beautiful soul. We are effectively the biggest franchise in world sport and nobody wants to play for us. If fergie - and we all love him - wants to go out on a high then he needs to spend. Tbh we don't need hazard as we have good wingers. We need a hardman. Strootman or Martinez. We need a target - the borußia lad or giroud. This kid from Crewe looks excellent and a left back please too. But we have to buy and stop papering over the cracks. And I sincerely hope hazard proves to live up to his bloody name! Ollie

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28 May 2012 22:59:12
I think united should sign Javi Garcia i know he signed a new contact but surely he would jump at the chance to play at united plus his physicality would rival Yaya imo he is class defensively id be happy with

----------------------De Gea-----------------
Rafael----------Vidic---------Smalling----Baines
--------------Garcia----------Cleverley--------
Nani----------------Kagawa----------Rodriguez
--------------------Rooney-------------------

That would rival most teams imo for attacking force and defensive solidity

Maybe we could do a cuty and have two holding midfielders like asamoah and garcia then just let the front 4 attack constantly which would work a treat aswell

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28 May 2012 22:57:55
Reading the pathetic posts tonight regarding Hazard, and the direction of the club, if this is an example of our support, it is truelly embarrassing.
No guts, accepting the ownership. No wonder the Glazers bought this great club. Die-hard supporters have left, and apathetic glory hunters have taken their place.
Most of you will be supporting City in a couple of years so I appreciate, what is happening to this club makes little diffence to you. If this is an example of our "support", this is not the United I used to know.

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28 May 2012 22:52:43
Ed In united teams in the past each season we have always finished teams off and hardly scuppered leads then the season just gone we scuppered leads and couldnt finish off in europe or domestically do you think its our midfield or lack of goals up front with welbeck and hernandez hardly contributing

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I think it's due to either not winning enough games, or losing too many.
I can't decide which.

M.D.

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28 May 2012 22:52:29
Think alot of people are forgetting about the Financial Fairplay rules that are soon to be implemented. Its my understanding that the issue of FFP is what stopped Man City bowing to hazards wage demands, as they're trying to build a more stable financial model.

As far i understand if these FFP guidlines, if implemented properly will result in us and bayenr munich dictating the majority of transfer fees and us having leverage over other teams & far more flexibiltity to complete transfers.

I know its frustrating to miss out on hazard but fergie knows what he's doing (hopefully) so save your moaning for august 31st if he hasnt signed any/good players.

Gpot7

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SAF himself said don't rely on the ffp rules.

Red Man

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Teams will just start demanding more from sponsorship deals or doing what Man City have done with their Etihad deal. FFP will not stop billionaire owners. It will just affect teams like ours whose owners view the club as a cash cow rather than an expensive hobby.
T0MB0Z

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28 May 2012 22:51:59
a great player who i would love to join united Neymar JR. hes a talanted player hes young hes good on the ball and hed be a great player at united!

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28 May 2012 22:55:25
Interesting that Hazard says he is joining champions league winners but didn't actually name Chelsea - or which year the team he is joining won the Champions League!
Don't want the little s**t anyway seems like he is courting attention and that isn't what we want.
Also we are not Liverpool and do our business in private not public
I don't think we should panic yet SAF anf Gill said we would add to the squad - so they will - BELIEVE!

Pedroknight

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28 May 2012 22:54:40
Any reason why Chelsea havnt announced anything ? Nothing on their web site which would be easily updated

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28 May 2012 22:48:17
Will so called fans of our club stop posting rubbish about our manager he has the money he bid we offered wages and then chelsea won the champions league and offered almost double what we offered almost 200k a week on a 21 year old who hasnt proven he is world class yet thats rooney wages pretty much i for one am glad we didnt offer him that i would much prefer someone that wants to play for us and is cheaper in wages he would of cost near 80million for 5 years including the transfer fee that is silly ger James Rodriguez Kagawa and M'Villa thats a good summer with maybe a striker

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If James Rodriguez is as good as everybody says he will most likely end up at one of the top sides in europe like Milan or madrid {Ed004's Note - Yes!}

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Do you rate James Rodriguez Highly Ed 004 ? cus i think he is a special talent that will pretty much destroy any defence for the next 10 years {Ed004's Note - I do and I was hoping United signed either hazard of him}

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Same but i was always pulling towards Rodriguez for the fact that he would love to play for us and would suit the premireship down to a tee just like hulk would aswell short and stocky

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28 May 2012 22:45:55
Now unfortunately I don't watch too much portuguese football so how good is this lad Rodriguez? Is he better than hazard, better than Gaitan? And what are the chances of Utd getting him if he's that good because like many people are stating here when it comes to THE best players I'm just not convinced anymore that Utd can compete. People's thoughts?

Langers

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He's good - but not as good as Hazard. Not too far off Gaitan though and 4 years younger. At 20 years old he definitely looks like he could develop into a top player.
T0MB0Z

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James Rodriguez is up there with Hazard imo he is what i call a little Valencia basically he stocky quick powerful and gets the ball int he box hes left footed can play central and can finish imo hes brilliant and will only get better plus he isnt a egotistical maniac and said he would love to play for united and would have less wages and would probably stay for 10 years

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28 May 2012 22:44:42
hazard confirms he is going to the champions league winners....... of 2008 Manchester United, oh well if we miss out on him. spend all that cash on javi martinez, yann m'vila or luka modric. Add to that shinji kagawa and David Alaba and we will win the league and challenge for the champions league. Most important thing next year is that we change our formation to 4-2-3-1 with wazza up top Valencia Kagawa Nani behind Martinez Cleverley and back four of Rafael Jones Vidic Alaba. Youth signings of Powell and Clyne plus plenty of young players going out on loan hopefully pogba stays and that would be an absolute DREAM transfer period

VidosicLover33

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Lost all respect when you put Jones ahead of Smalling and said we would challenge in europe with that team

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I lost all respect for smalling when he let kompany win that header mate {Ed004's Note - Ok, so one mistake by a 22 year old against arguably one of the best centre backs in world at the minute and he is not good enough anymore. Tell me this... Did he put a step wrong the rest of that game?}

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28 May 2012 22:44:14
Man utd,is my best team so far, So i couldn't have like what happen to us last season without any trophy to happen again this coming season,it was so bad for our record book.i want sir Alex to build up man utd so that it will be dificult for any team to win us.

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28 May 2012 22:36:07
Now that Hazard has chosen to sign for Chelsea why don't Man Utd go in for Modric?

Modric, Kagawa, Rodriguez, Alba, Martinez and a decent striker would all be great signings for us!!

Sort it out Fergie!

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Martinez is out of reach and modric is not worth the 35+million to sign we would be better of signing M'Villa and Moutinho

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28 May 2012 22:35:10
Well. No surprise there. Chose the money. But it is amazing how a legendary manager like SAF, complete with sufficient transfer funds has always been unable to seal a transfer. Can't think of any time that united defeated another team in a transfer battle. Another summer of buying the value players instead of the best players. Which means nothing on the pitch where a players value means nothing. SAF will e the shrewd money man who leads his team to another trophy less season. Bring in Pep or Jose, they know how to manage both during the season and in the transfer window. Gill and ferguson are absolute jokes between may and August. -KG

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BTW, that wasn't me advocating pushing out SAF, just saying that Id be confident that when the time comes those kind of managers will be far more successful during the summer transfer window. -KG

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28 May 2012 22:34:40
I knwo we all love our attcking players Rooney Welbeck Hernandez Young Nani etc but you put them against chelsea now and man city we have minimal firepower we need a goalscorer and for me with havent got one we need the nistelrooy player that bags 30 goals a season along with rooney imo welbeck will nevr be prolific and hernandez is too inconsistent i would love to edinson cavani or gonzalo higuain bought in but that is not gonna happen so who cab you sign for fire power? {Ed004's Note - Doesn't Rooney bang in 30 + goals a season though? Chelsea has ??? who to score 30 goals a season and Man City have Aguero who didn't quite hit 30 goals a season}

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Big names don't always equal big prizes!

M.D.

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Sory, aguero`s 30th goal of the season won the title {Ed004's Note - If that is the case then I am wrong.. Though City don't seem to lack in the goal scorers department anyways...}

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Ed i think your missing the point or im not quite getting it across our midfielders do not score many goals rooney is the main goalscorer all im sating is if we signed a top striker we would of been finishing of opponents alot easier this season {Ed004's Note - I agree we need to strengthen the midfield. However, with us going into a formation with one striker (possibly) maybe improving the midfield is a bigger priority than acquiring a striker}

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Why only 30? Don't you want Messi?
O wait, Messi didn't win the league either.
Maybe he should score less.

M.D.

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Kagawa will drastically increase the chances Chicharito gets this upcoming season. We currently have noone on the squad to play through balls for strikers that play on the last defender's shoulders. It's why Torres has struggled without a player to play him behind the defense. Kagawa looks like that kind of passer, and Chicharito will certainly get a few more one-on-ones with the keeper if we sign Kagawa and blow it like we did with Hazard (again)

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28 May 2012 22:23:39
Well I wanted Hazard to join as much as the next man, possibly more but all I hope for now is the money that earmarked for Hazard can be spend elsewhere. Kagawa will be a cracking player if we get him but I feel he needs a more solid midfielder to play behind him. I would like to see 2 midfielders, a LB, Clyne and possibly a striker.

TK-Red

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28 May 2012 22:22:08
I am truly pissed that Hazard has chosen Chelsea over Manchester United, but happy that Manchester City didn't get him. Theres plenty more players we can buy lads (e.g Rodriguez, Gaitan, Kagawa) so don't act as if its the end of the world.
Would love if this had happened while Roy Keane was still playing, because after his f*** acting around, the second Hazard stepped onto the pitch with Keane, he would be gone off on a stretcher. :)

Breeno

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City are rumored to have ruled themselves out over the amount being requested in agents fees.
T0MB0Z

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I see you're still TOMBOZ.

G.A.G.U.S

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T0MB0Z

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That's meant to say 'still alive' :s Where have you been all this time?

G.A.G.U.S

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There didn't seem much point talking about transfers once the window had closed and I skipped over the January transfer window as I didn't see us signing anybody. Good to be back though!
T0MB0Z

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28 May 2012 22:20:56
Big clubs these days = big money. We are no longer a big club, we live on our history and get skinned by yanks. Get used to it, we are going to have a lot more "runners up" seasons to come.

(life long red of 30+ years, and yes it hurts me to write the above statement.)

{Ed007's Note - Have you tried sitting a different way?}

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"Runners up"? If our transfer dealings are anything like they have been over the past 3-4 years I'll be surprised if we even manage that?
T0MB0Z

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LOL@Ed
Nice to be cheered up when most posts are depressingly stupid tonight.

M.D.

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What a silly post ..... So you want our club to break the bank and offer the same money to a 21 year old to what rooney is getting pretty much even though hes not proven at the top level ?

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No I do not want our club to pay silly money but it would be very comforting to know we could pay silly money if the need arose.
(Ed. Have now taken to laying down in a darkened room! PS good site, excellent job, but a lot of "jester hat" and "double team scarf" united fans on here, but I suppose they are all entitled to their opinions!

Snapper

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28 May 2012 22:17:57
What all you regular "experts" are failing to recognise. This isn't about Hazard chosing another club, it is about this re-accuring theme that United are unable to attract top players when they become available. This has been going on since 2005 other than Berba.

Effectively, the Glazers are killing us as a serious player in the transfer market. SAF will be gone in 1-2 years, and we are finished as a top club in Europe then unless the ownership changes.

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We've done alrite since 2005 though havent we!! we finished level on points with city,with a fit vidic all season we'd have won the league,its not a major overhaul we need,few tweeks with the young lads gaining experience from this season,,,its not all doom and gloom,,,,if its the no.10 role he was after anyway he wouldnt have had it with us,give me rooney any day {Ed004's Note - I think we need major 'tweeks' as you put it. Look what happened to us in Europe and when teams put it up to us, Newcastle, City etc. Big changes are needed this summer - if the money is there, and if Fergies spends it is another question...}

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Its nothing to do with money from the Glazers we had a bid etc and wages offered but Fergie refuse to up the wages due to his silly demands we offered around 100k to a 21 year old and he ended up picking the near enough 200k with chelsea simple i for one do not want us to be paying 21 year olds silly money thats the money higuains rooneys etc are on top playrs that are proven not hazard who done well in the frnch league

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I'm not sure whether if it's fair to blame the owners. SAF has always said there's money to spend - so what it really comes down to is whether he's lying to hide the fact that the club's debt is preventing him from spending or he's reluctant to spend big for fear of signing another flop. I'm leaning towards the former - but it could just as easily be the latter. To be fair we've spent a fair amount over the past three years - with most of it being on 'prospects'.
T0MB0Z

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WHY 2005??
This has been going on since I've been watching the club (1990). I'm sure some of the older group can confirm that transfers have always been a muddy business!
But for every Hazard we miss out on due to money/location, or every Ronaldinho we lose due to our own stupidity, or Shearer due a player's personal reasons, we keep going.

M.D.

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28 May 2012 22:16:59
So Hazard adds his name to the ever growing list of big name players that we were told we were in for but then didn't sign, it is becoming a very esteemed list now.

There is always the possibility that one player can decide to join a rival but a pattern has now developed. We are the biggest brand in world football yet can't attract the top players. It is obvious why. No doubt it won't be the Glazers according to some posters but the regularity of players refusing us can only be because we will not back our interest with hard cash

So now we will see what the club can scrape together to save face and let us decide whether it is good enough. No doubt Fletcher will be a new signing and vidic will bridge the gap , Kagawa was always better than hazard anyway. Well plan B better be a whole lot better than that.

Let us see who the club declare are good enough to grace our shirt or will it be who is good enough at a price we will pay. Chelsea have set out their intention and you can bet City will do the same. Cheap options will leave us falling behind. Even more than before we now need a statement , a Martinez and Muniain sized statement but I won't hold my breath

Red Man

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28 May 2012 22:15:08
Think it's been a massive defeat today. We aren't able to attract a player to our club for a team that finished 6th and was lucky to win CL. What has happened to our great club that we can't even compete with Chelsea.

I don't mind losing out to players to Madrid or barca but Chelsea come on. What can they offer that we can't. I honestly think we won't come in top 2 next season and it will be between Chelsea and city and we will just be passengers.

Before you slater me I will support the team no matter what but I am absolutely distraught

Neil

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London is a big draw, as is the massive amounts of money for the player and agent.

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It may not be what they can offer that we can't - but more what they offered that we would not. £100k a week after tax should answer that question...
T0MB0Z

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What can Chelsea offer - simple mate

1. as much money as the Russian wants to (50 mil for Torres - remember).
2. Pay the agents inflate / ludicrous demands.
3. For the lad - playing in one of the greatest citys on Earth (I am a life long United fan but much prefer living in London.
4. And prob being introduced to all the London Hi(lo) life's.

So it is a logical (even if i think the wrong one) choice for the lad to make - not particularly a failure on our part.

Mike

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But he didn't want this he wanted to play and play central. It's not hard to explain the difference between utd and chelsea to the lad. I could talk for hours about utds history and could talk about chelseas history for 2 mins max. We need to start selling our club more but more importantly we have to pay for these quality players.

There is a reason that he is being paid 110k a week because he is worth every single penny

It's become sad. Try and tell me last time utd signed a world class player when other big clubs were in for same player cause I am struggling to name one in last 10 years

Fergie has even said how football has changed maybe it's time we changed with the times

Neil

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28 May 2012 22:13:16
Regarding Hazard, I just can't believe he's shown such a distinct lack of footballing ambition, good luck to the lad though, hope he flops big time or Phil Jones creams him at the weekend!

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Signing for the European champions rather than the league runners up? Signing for a team who's clearly going to invest big this summer rather than one who doesn't appear able to? The fact that they probably offered double the wages we offered probably helped a little as well - but to say there's nothing at Chelsea for ambitious players seems a little unfair.
T0MB0Z

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28 May 2012 22:11:50
Look on the bright side. We were obviously prepared to pay big money for this guy, meaning we still have that money for other people.

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I think you will find it is the wages and agents fee the Glazers will not match

Red Man

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I wish you never said that.
Here comes the conspiracy theorists...

M.D.

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28 May 2012 22:08:24
These could be the teams next year

Man utd

_________________De Gea______________
Rafael______Vidic________Smalling____Evra
___________Carrick______Cleverley______
Valencia__________Rooney________Young
________________Welbeck_____________

Man city

____________________Hart___________________
Richards_____Kompany_____Thiago Silva___Clichy
____________yaya_________Barry____________
David Silva__________Tevez_____________Nasri
__________________Aguero__________________

Chelsea

___________________Cech________________
Van Der Wiel_____Terry____Luiz________Cole
____________Essien_______Ramires_______
Mata_______________Hulk___________Hazard
__________________Torres________________

As a United fan not seeing any investment in our team and seeing city and chelsea spending we will end up fighting with arsenal and spurs next season for 3rd or 4th at best unless serious money is spent on top players we need more fire power and consistency with a solid midfielder like M'Villa

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And that's assuming that Thiago Silva is City's only big signing (which seems unlikely). I expect another top quality ST and CAM to be added to their squad before the summer's finished. Arsenal may well spend big this summer as well in an attempt to hold onto RVP. They're favourites for M'Villa and Dempsey at the moment and with them and another quality striker to partner RVP - would certainly be looking pretty strong as well. To say I'm worried would be an understatement...
T0MB0Z

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28 May 2012 22:07:21
Now that b****cks is out of the way, expect the signing of Kagawa to be announced soon!

RedMUFC

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28 May 2012 22:05:06
Hazard's made his choice, lets all move on from this...... Who knows we may be able to convince Robbo out of retirement :-) ....
HERBIE

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28 May 2012 21:57:16
If we miss out on Kagawa too I'll be massively disappointed but if we were to miss out on any form of CAM and instead sign somebody like M'vila I would be relatively happy.

Don't get me wrong, I think the creativity needs to be addressed but I'd still be fairly happy if I saw this squad next season:

______________________DDG
Rafael__________Smalling___Vidic__________Evra?
_______________Carrick___M'Vila
Toni_______________________________Young/Nani
___________________Cleverley
___________________Rooney

I'm not saying it would be Ideal but I think it's still a relatively strong team.

The Moon.

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I don't know M'Villa well but doesn't he play deep? I know when Scholes and Carrick both play I sometimes scream for someone to run into the box to join the attack!
How often does M'Villa get forward?

M.D. {Ed004's Note - Not very often. Though playing him with Cleverley and Anderson would let them run the show like at the beginning of the season without leaving the defence exposed...}

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Ed004,

I think Carrick will be the first name on the team sheet for midfield next season.
Although Hodgson doesn't seem to be his biggest fan...

M.D. {Ed004's Note - Unfortunately I agree.. I rate him, but just not world class imo}

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28 May 2012 21:54:29
I suppose everyone will be blaming the Glazers now Hazard has turned us down but i think the person to blame is definately David Gill. That shifty t**t couldn't give away a bag of sweets to a child let alone sell the "history" or "product" that is "Manchester United". I don't trust him full stop & to be honest aswell what player is going to come to United knowing full well that Ferguson probably has 1-2 years left managing the club when the new man in will want players of his choice therefore that player may find himself out on his ear. Once again we've failed in getting a big target. The days of Gordon McQueen saying "99% of players want to play for Man.Utd & the other 1% are liars" have long gone.Unfortunately until there's the inevitable end of Fergusons reign & a new man comes in, then i expect barren days in the transfer market.

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28 May 2012 21:51:24
I'm in two minds as to how I feel about Hazard going to Chelsea. On the one hand I'm absolutely gutted as he's probably one of the five most talented young players anywhere in the world at the moment. It seems like yet another case of United not having the money to compete financially with other clubs - or SAF 'knowing best' (which based on last years transfers I'm not quite sure I believe anymore). If we can no longer compete for the best players in the world anymore - questions will soon be asked if we can still call ourselves one of the best teams in the world (at least based on our quality on the pitch). This season we were nowhere near good enough and Hazard would have gone some way to fixing that. People can spam out Kagawa's stats as much they like - but given that most of his goals and assists (50/86 & 30/45) came in the second tier of the Japanese league - I'm not sure how comparable they are to Hazard's. He's still a very good player- but streets away from Hazard (and Hazard will continue to improve). I'm sure now that he's on his way to Chelsea most people on here will be claiming that Kagawa is the better player - but having watched both of them play a lot over the past two seasons I can assure you that you're sorely mistaken.

On the other hand I wonder if we may have dodged a bullet somewhat. Yes, he's an exceptional player, but the way he's conducted himself recently has been ridiculous. I know he's young (and probably following the advise of his agent) - but that's not really an excuse. He should want to play for the best team who will take him (and help him develop as a player) - rather than the one willing to pay him the most money. For a player to announce where he'll be going over twitter rather than the club he's going to is a joke. He says he wants a team where he will get the most playing time and then signs for one who have recently signed a player (Marin) with the same preferred position. I suppose they could switch Marin over to the wing - but what does that say about the way Chelsea treat their players? He's also signing for a team without a manager which doesn't make much sense to me either.

That said - they've got themselves a great player who will only improve the quality of their team and ultimately the league. A front four of Marin, Mata, Torres and Hazard will be deadly.

I look at our team now and I worry. At the end of last season I looked at City's team and thought to myself - 'which of their players would get into our starting 11?' and could only think of Silva, Hart and Kompany. Now I look at it and think 'which of our players would get into their starting 11?' and only Rooney and Vidic (and maybe Valencia) really spring to mind.

We have some very good young players in our squad - but too few who are anywhere near 'world class'. Evra has been poor for a few seasons now, we still don't have a starting RB, Vidic may not be the same player when he comes back, Rio's fitness is all over the place, Fletcher's out indefinitely, Carrick, Nani and Young struggle with consistency and neither Welbeck or Hernandez are good enough yet. The only positions that don't need looking at are those filled by Rooney and Valencia (and I suppose De Gea - who is starting to look like the player I thought we'd signed).

If we don't add at least two quality CM's I honestly can't see us coming close to competing next season. All of our rivals will be strengthening their squads and there's a chance of us being left behind. I'd love us to add Kagawa (£18m), Martinez (£22m), Munian (£16m) and a top quality striker (Higuain £35m, Cavani - £30m, RVP - £25m, or even Huntelaar -£15m) with Nani (£25m), Berbatov (£8m) and Anderson (£12m) making way. Unfortunately that will never happen - and I see us signing Kagawa and a few young players who might be good in three or four years time rather than now (which is what we need). Maybe Lewandowski as well - although he's not and will never be good enough for United.

I'll support United no matter what - but would rather be celebrating come the end of next season rather than lamenting another poor summer of transfers.
T0MB0Z

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I'm sorry but I'd have carrick over Barry any day of the week. Barry is actually awful. How has he got 50 odd caps for England?

Philiphs93

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You're right. Carrick is better than Barry when he's in form. Still not a world class player though.
T0MB0Z

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Carrick is quality IMO.

M.D.

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From Christmas onwards he was brilliant - but he seems to go through spells where he'll either be very good or very poor. He's been extremely frustrating in that sense for the past 3 years now.
T0MB0Z

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28 May 2012 21:53:02
Better off without hazard imo, he's already said that he wants to go to Spain when he matures. Was wondering ed's would James Rodriguez be a possible signing? Would love to see him at in a United shirt!

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28 May 2012 21:50:06
2 days ago: 'Hazard is a wonderful player. I can't wait to see him at Old Trafford.'

9pm tonight: 'Over-rated, too big of an ego, bad attitude, not a United player, didn't want him anyway, Kagawa better etc.'

Hypocrites.

G.A.G.U.S

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Aint they just G.A.G.U.S... Fickle to say the least, Hazard made the best choice for him and his family simple as....
HERBIE

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Couldn't give a shyte either way.
I will pass judgement when we actually sign someone.

Supasub

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Have to agree GAGUS... he is a class player and would have offered our attack another dimension.

Him, Kagawa and Nani all playing behind Rooney would have been amazing.

If he really is going to chelsea then all the best to him.

Oxred

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28 May 2012 21:46:36
to all my fellow united fans, so hazard picks chelsea...So what!! Its a blessing in disguise that this player will not come to us. He would cause unrest in the dressing room and we do not need egoistic players like that. Kagawa is a certainty now, and I wouldnt mind us using the hazard money to lure lucas moura who I rate more highly than hazard!!

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28 May 2012 21:44:44
Hazard has joined Chelsea for the wages clearly

So he will sign for 32million on around 200k wages which we couldnt offer him and shouldnt of anyway

so say 180k a week for 5 years just a guess then he would of cost the club 32million plus 46800000 whock is near enough 79million

yes he is a top talent but what if he becomes injury prone or doesnt live up to the hype ... yes i wanted him to join but there is a lot of talented wingers out there for cheaper and that are less of an person like Rodriguez, Gaitan etc then theres kagawa etc for number 10 who just get on with there job

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28 May 2012 21:34:32
Adel Taarabt was brilliant in the Championship, I'd say the Championship resembles the French Div. Same tricks and skills as Hazard. Great YouTube clips of goals and assists. Then in the Premiership he got closed down, lost the ball countless times and hardly played cause players got annoyed at his non team ethics and greed.

Please, please, please let Hazard go to pieces in the EPL.
He's a big headed greedy git that has made this transfer seem like he is the second coming.

I'd laugh my ass off if he get knocked about cause of his size and doesn't do it in the Prem.
"what a waist of money", "what a waist of money"Come on Kagawa show him how it's done.

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28 May 2012 21:43:26
I wonder did united pull out of hazard deal rather than him turning us down. I don't think saf would put up with a player that has such an ego before he even proves himself. There is no way saf would have let this guy go on like he has if we'd a deal in place for him.
Anyway how long will he stay in prem for max 2 years then Madrid bound. Let's all wait till end of window before we complain bout signings. We spent £50m plus last season and I would rather we went out and got 3 more like the ones we got last season as these types of players still round lot longer than the ego money grabbers.

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28 May 2012 21:41:19
Another greedy player stuff him if you dont want to play for the most sucssesfull clubin england then they need there head testing

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From an arsenal fan,

your better off without players like him

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28 May 2012 21:39:54
I am SHOCKED!
I mean, Hazard is joining Chelsea? Did he watch the CL this year? Did he watch the final? Has he seen the antics that take place at that club? This is the worst decision he could have made. His agent has pulled the wool over his eyes here, just so he can get a £5 million pound wad. I am so glad he didnt sign for us, the twitter thing was pathetic, "ive decided" I mean wow good for you son.
I really am shocked.
If we miss out on Kagawa now though, that would be a disaster I feel. But we need a def minded MF too.
Eden Hazard, oh dear, you will be at Chelsea for 2 years tops, before you head Spain.
PJ

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28 May 2012 21:39:09
Not sure what Hazard thinks hes going to win with Chelsea, they dont even have a manager and came 25 point behind us last season and i know it sounds sour but they got pretty lucky with the UCL.

But if SAF really wanted him he would have got him, like he did with berba, so I trust Fergie to sign us some great value tallent this summer and make it 20 this time next year

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You ask what is he going to win at Chelsea, well let's look at this season, a FA Cup winners medal and a CL winners medal, yes they finished 25pts behind us but what did we win, NOWT. Yes you could call them lucky to win the CL, but where exactly did we get in the CL, we failed to qualify from one of the easiest groups and I won't even go into the Europa Lge. At the start of next season they will be in all the same competitions as us and also the Community Shield, so it looks like they had a pretty good season.
I'm sure there are many on here who would swap Chelsea's season with ours. Maybe he asked himself what he would win with us and then chose Chelsea.

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28 May 2012 21:38:05
dont be too surprised if we dont sign any top class players to see rooney on his bike,and tbh you cant blame him,the usual s**te of being linked to the top players and ending up with nothing,prepare yourselves for a long and frustrating summer.

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28 May 2012 21:34:24
Wesley Sneijder 2011
Eden Hazard 2012

No wonder Fergie had a nosebleed that couldn't stop as he was probably getting giddy at the crap in the papers.

Sorry but I now think that our days of signing Proven class players who will make us a European power again have long since gone.

Sorry guys but financially we are way behind City and Chelsea both of whom will spend big this summer in order to retain their respective positions.

United - just don't know what to expect. Got excited last summer but got nowt so this summer...god knows what we will end up with. I said a few weeks ago our next big signing should be a replacement for Fergie as surely at his age, there can ,t be anything longer than a 2 year plan in place and we need to be grooming his successor now.

Eden Hazard the way he has performed in this transfer fiasco speaks volumes for his character and motives . Not a United player.

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Our days of signing proven class players? When have we ever signed a world class player at the top of his game? We have had plenty that became world class players at united, we have to face facts that the top players don't want to come to Manchester unless its for crazy money that Sh..ty will pay to basically bribe them. We will have to be content will unearthing talent but for every Ronaldo there will be a Bebe!

Fabio No2

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To say the transfer windows isn't open, i wouldn't say its a disappointing summer just yet!

Hoppy

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You mean mesut ozil 2010, Wesley sneijder 2011 and Eden hazard 2012

Three years in a row i've had my hopes up and three years they've been dashed.

Although lets hope we sign kagawa, a full back and a defensive mid

Philiphs93

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28 May 2012 21:32:56
Paying the Glazers debt is far better for United than buying top players. When will you all learn? What is it you don't get about our owners..mugs!

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"....mugs"

- Whiner

Mike

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28 May 2012 21:31:31
Fellaini from everton would be a good buy for united proven quality midfielder would not be surprised to see him at old trafford soon

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28 May 2012 21:29:52
Well thats another world class player we've lost. I really think its time Sir Alex stopped messing about and signed big players. I dont want to be linked with players like 'Gaitan' i want big name players. We have to go out there and buy a £20 millions+ player otherwise we're going to fall behind city, chelsea and maybe even arsenal. Since Hazard has gone i think we will be putting all our attention on Bale or Modric. I think the Kagawa deal is done for us but we need another 2 'world beaters' if we want to win this league again!

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Are you 12 by any chance?

Roy Keane, Javier hernandez, Cristiano Ronaldo, Evra, Vidic, Smalling, Rafael, Fabio, Nani, Valencia, Young. -Hardly big name signings were they.

The Moon.

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You're right we are in serious danger of falling behind Arsenal with all the money they spend and big players they buy......................

APC

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28 May 2012 21:27:45
Reasons why i feel Hazard might have joined chelsea;

Influence from Joe Cole (Past Chelsea) or Lukaku/De Bruyne (Belgium)
Nani has signed a new deal which has brought consideration whether he'll play as much
More obvious- Money
An influential upcoming manger appointment e.g. Pep Guardiola
Naivety over the fact Chelsea won the CL
Living in London
Assurance of playing in the favoured number 10 role
Unaware of the history and honour of Man Utd
Fergie pulled out due to the long-going decision

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Nani has not signed a new deal.

Sydney!

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28 May 2012 21:27:32
ins:

clyne
powell 4M
baines 12M
strootman 16M
kagawa 14M
TOTAL:46M

outs:

kuszack
berbatov 10M
macheda 2M
park 2M
TOTAL: 14M....
TOTAL SPENT: 32M


------------de gea-----------
rafael----vidic--small----baines
-------scholes--strootman----
valencia-----kagawa-----young
-------------rooney-----------

i for one would be very happy with that.

JK92 (Banter please ed)

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28 May 2012 21:26:16
OH SHUT UP!

"We can't compete in the market"

"Somethings wrong"

etc. etc.

He chose a club who has just won the UCL and is in one of the most beautiful cities in the world. it's not about finances or anything like that.

Jesus Christ, funny how the majority of the posters slating the club never, ever post on here isn't it?

we missed out on a player it happens all the time but we were all so sure of him signing that now it's such a big thing when in reality it isn't.

I have no issue with Hazard and I wish him all the best as should the guys who enjoy watching great football.

Oh, and the can't compete thing has always been true, and trust me it isn't financial or because of our ambitions it's because of where the club is located. We offer competitive wages with other clubs when trying to lure players to the club but think about it. if you have 5 offers all of the same wage who would you choose?

United - Manchester
Chelsea - London
Real - Madrid
Barcelona - Barcelona
Inter - Milan

United will never be able to offer players a great city, don't get me wrong I love Manchester but it's hardly glamorous and IMO it's the reason why we've never been able to lure the TOP players.

Football is a game but these players have families and need to look after them first, if somebody gave me the choice out of the clubs above then as a foreigner I would choose any of the above side over United IF it was down to the location.

The Moon.

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Well said The Moon......if I didn't support United and all those teams came in for me......I too wouldn't be living and playing my football in Manchester!

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Hazard said the only criteria he had is playing time and position - Fact

Chelsea do not have a manager atm - Fact

Hazard will get neither the no. 10 shirt nor the no. 10 role - Fact

If it was down to location, he could have easily have joined PSG when they wanted him last summer. Let's face it, he's only going to Chelsea because they offered him something in the range of 120k+ and the influence of the Belgian contingent. It has nothing to do with football reasons.

Also, FYI, we have never been able to lure top players because we have never been able to pay the wages they expect. Whether that is because of the Glazers or SAF's policies, we will never know.

Foreign players are not Utd fans, hence have no obligation whatsoever to pick us over other clubs when they could easily earn more elsewhere.

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Your points fall down because City can attract the best players. We can't attract the top players because we spend 75m per year on debt, wages and expenses for the owners. Probably the worst and most naive post ever!

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Well it doesn't seem to hamper citeh !

NAMELESS CHILD

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Barca all day....

sunny on the coast..... and it actually is a nice city....

can not say the same for london though moon.... the areas I have worked in are complete s**t holes.....

Oxred

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Well done for trying but I think you're wasting your time trying to talk sense to some of this lot.
Don't worry, the fickle masses will do what they've always done, and Sir Alex will do what he's always done.

M.D.

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Oxred- you should have lived in Fulham its great round here.

mike

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28 May 2012 21:25:04
wouldn't surprise me if hazard says " I ment the winner in 2008"

And to all your tw#ts who said he was signing for united ur all a bunch of gullible fools.

I said he wouldn't be signing for us he was just using us and city to get more money and publicity.

LUHG

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28 May 2012 21:24:50
Hazrd is joining the team who finished 6th but won the champions league, football is awful now 20 years ago you had to be at the top in your league to play in europe now u can get relegated and still play champions league football!!! Can't wait for the sugar daddy's to get into another sport soon! Hazard is a mug!!! I hope he only has a few seasons with the rich other blue team and goes to Madrid! I bet he will come out and say something like "I wanted to join Man utd but they couldn't offer me the money Chelsea could! BORING!!!!!!!! I pray Man utd buy some top players so if Fergie leaves after this season pep will come in and keep us at the top!!!!!! MAN UTD WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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28 May 2012 21:24:40
Did we need another winger? Doubt it. If we get modric and kagawa think that's better business. Or a cheeky bid for neymar

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28 May 2012 21:24:17
Everyone needs to calm down, this is as bad as last year and the endless Wesley talk. It might be fun but 95% of the stuff on here is complete garbage. If we signed everyone we're rumoured to be interested in we'd have a 1st team squad of about 40. As for Hazard, good luck to him, we now see what he's made of, picking a team that finished 6th that doesn't have a Manager. His loss, chill everyone

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28 May 2012 21:23:09
Come on everyone he is clearly a mercenary. He joins a team without a manager just because of 200k a week... Get Kagawa and Rodriguez to United !

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28 May 2012 21:21:38
Sorry about Hazard. What a talent.

Its fair that he joins a better club who are the best in Europe.

Stinging blow. Even sweeter beating manchester clubs to it. {Ed004's Note - Better club... *sigh* worst thing is Chelsea fans believe that...}

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Congratulations you've got yourself a talented player, no doubt about that. but can you make him play the way he's been playing in France? we'll wait and see.

As for being a better club? well even though I don't really 'hate' chelsea I would still regard Arsenal, ourselves and Liverpool as a better club that Chelsea in terms of the way the club operates and what the club stands for.

The Moon.

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28 May 2012 21:17:27
So Hazard chooses 6th place Chelsea over us....I'm not surprised. Who was the last world class player we attracted whether in their prime or just developing. Veron, Tevez, Berbatov all came to us and each one left or will leave with their reputation dulled. Ronaldo was a one off and thank god we had 5 years from the boy. Our track record of attracting world class players is poor....

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28 May 2012 21:15:20
Hazard to Chelsea ! He must be off his Rubles ......oh wait surely he isn't gone for Roman's Rubles.....

I know this will start the United have no money debate again and we can't compete etc. etc. Realistically Hazard is signing for the 6th best team in the Premier League who were extremely Lucky to win the Champions League.

I for one am happy to see players motivated by Money not coming to United ! Nasri wont last at City ( hes not a big enough fish for them hence the move for Hazard ), Sneijder was woeful for Inter last season and as for Hazard meeeh who cares wonderful talent but my god the man thinks his s**t don't stank and he regularly displays constipation of the brain and diarrhea of the mouth.

We need players who want to wear the famous Red Shirt and step out in the Theatre of dreams, Players like Pogba don't know how lucky they are and he wants to trade it for a transfer to Juventus to be sent packin straight out the door to Udinese on loan ( Wonderful Career move that )

The likes of Kagawa and James Rodriguez are the types of players we should be looking at ( Players who want to play for the Biggest team in the World )

Rant over Sorry : )

Ideally Id Love the below

Munian or Rodriguez
Kagawa
M'Villa
Azpilicueta


Keep the Red Flag Flying High

MACMAN

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28 May 2012 21:15:10
Thank God thats all over..Great player but a born media whore...We move on..Seems like the Glazers gave us all their support again!!
So, for another summer we will be signing grade 2 players..How exciting are United these days? No need for sleeping pills...

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28 May 2012 21:16:32
gutted with united, today tipped the balance. We earned the most but cant compete....does that sting anyone else...? I'm a true fan, love the boss and the team, he lost on goal difference on a limited budget, come on something on right. I repeat I love united..just something aint right?

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What are you on about?

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We need something which will make us smile, yes Kagawa will be amazing but I think we should atleast sign one big name just to show our position in the world! JakeW-

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And city can't compete as well?

Don't think it is a problem with United or available funds - but more likely with the agents demands. (being generous there)

Mike

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28 May 2012 21:15:37
It's so frustrating coming on this site everyday to see all these fantastic players being named as our transfers coming in but when are they ever gonna come?

There's idiots underneath who are saying we dont want hazard anyway and that Oshawa is a definite. We can't compete in this Market and at the moment we can't say that they should sign for the champions of England or Europe as we are not. Plain and simple

Jay-c

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28 May 2012 21:15:34
Now that Eden Hazard has joined Chelsea we should use the money to hire an assassin to take him out.

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28 May 2012 21:15:00
Today has been typical of the media just clutching at straws to get the public guessing, placing bets etc. Hazard is not going to Chelsea or City in my opinion. He's Utd bound I'm sure of it. Put a cheeky £10 bet on Hazard to Utd earlier aswell at 1/10. Fingers crossed!

RedMUFC
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Is it too late to get your £10 back, RedMUFC mate? Lol

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Ps. I agree about the media mate, they are scum.

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10er @ 1/10. So u stand to win a pound if he signs for utd and lose a 10er if he signs for anyone else.
Not the sharpest tool in the box are you pal.
Oh and you've lost.
Cfcmatt.

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28 May 2012 21:14:11
If the summer carries on like this we could be fighting it out for 3rd or 4th to be honest .... Chelsea have reinforced with Marin and Hazard 2 top players and will probably sign more players like Hulk etc .... Man City will definately sign a player or 2 maybe a centre back or right back so there going to be solid through the whole team and then theres us who will maybe Nick Powell... Exciting times ! i hope im wrong and we sign Kagawa, Rodriguez and Strootman but i cnt see it

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.........now i am getting sick of these..........whats wrong with us ?? same story season after season transfers :@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:@:

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Transfer window ain't open yet pal. Just one player whoring himself out, didn't sit well with me. We want professional players at our club.

GDS

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28 May 2012 21:13:07
The fact that he has chosen to join a team with no manager points out straight away he is not the correct type of player to play for united. What happens if a manger comes in and goes, i dont like him and sticks him on the bench. Wont be happy then will he. How can he say its about how much football he plays when he hasnt even got a manager to tell him how much football he will play. What a t**s p*t. Chelsea is a club with an owner who wants to make every single decision. Obviously managers at that club dont have a say in who they buy, they may as well save money on a manager and stick abramovich on the bench.
Trickee

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They just won the champions league and have a manager stop being such a tick we aren't champions of anything anymore so we can't play that card. We have to spend big

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28 May 2012 21:11:50
Hardly surprising Eden Hazard is going to Chelsea. Did anyone really think Manchester United would allow a player to announce he is joining us via Twitter? I'm disappointed because I think Old Trafford would have been the perfect place for Hazard to flourish but I would question the kid's attitude as it seems until Chelsea won the Champions League they were never an option and on top of that i'm sure Mr. Abramovich offering him a mere £200k+ per week didn't have any bearing... That being said, Chelsea have signed a terrific talent and I wish the lad all the best as for us well I don't have any doubts that SAF will have someone better lined up and for that reason alone I put my complete trust in the man bringing in the players required to take back what is ours!

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28 May 2012 21:10:22
If only hazard looked at Chelsea's previous record for ruining young talent.


Anon

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28 May 2012 21:07:01
OH MY GOODNESS!!!!
Manchester United have lost there way in the transfer market... We are supposed to be the worlds most popular club!!
I am waiting now on Gill and Fergie coming out and saying that there is no value in the market!

The BIG OLD FAT GIT MALCOLM GLAZER AND HIS SONS ARE BLEEDING ARE CLUB DRY

We are being linked with a Japanese player who the club are so eager to get because they want to sell shirts in JAPAN....Scholes (37) Giggs (39) get new 1 year deals. Nick Powell played last season in LEAGUE 2!!

BRUTAL BRUTAL BRUTAL BRUTAL

MAN UNITED IN SEVERE DECLINE

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And you are breathing because?

The Moon.

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Try and understand economics......he cost them 40 million euros + a £200,000+ a week wage.
Even City with their unlimited wealth....weren't willing to pay that!
Calm down and stop panicking.....United if they were in for him (and we have no proof they were) will have other targets.
Hazard was never the best player in europe....he was just another good player from a foreign league.
He has joined a team where they already have a top number 10.....Mata. They signed another number 10 in April....Marin....and what if the new manager prefers Mata or Marin?

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28 May 2012 21:04:38
Terribly disappointed yet another player missed I think we'll seriously regret not signing hazard we have to ask why he choose a club without a manager over man utd ? Agreed wages etc... With us so not the money etc...

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28 May 2012 21:04:37
Hazard will continue his twitter game tomorrow by saying... of 2008.

1redarmy

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28 May 2012 21:04:19
Yet another player turns the 'mighty' United down? If good players keep turning you down. You'll probably end up having to give Shcoles a new 7 year contract.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Ps. Read your post on rumours about SlySports, Ed007 mate. Great stuff, keep up the good work mate. {Ed007's Note - Cheers Blur.}

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I wondered where the managerless hordes had disappeared to - not a lot u can say when any manager of pedigree won't even agree to speak to u

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Lmao blair and who have signed for you the mighty Jordan Henderson or the great Stuart Downing oh no it is the iconic Charlie Adam get real mate do you think we are going to offer an unproven talent at the top level near to 200k a week ?

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Well anythings better than turning to "world class" Martinez for the "mighty" LFC
DJ

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Hazard is a very, very good player lads but a bit of a knob. If you think about it, you weren't even his 2nd choice. You were his 3rd. He chose Chelsea AND Spurs over you. But I see posts coming on how lucky you are not to sign him, he isn't that good anyway, etc. When only last Sunday most of you were praying for him to put you out of your misery and CONFIRM, he was going to you. lol

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Ps. No huffing tonight Ed004, sure he's not as good as Valencia. lol {Ed007's Note - He is tucked up in bed, he got rather upset.}

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Hi Blair - Hows the manager search going?
The guy from Yeovil town - has he turned you down yet?

Mike

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It's amazing how Blair comes on here to give United fans grief about Hazard when Liverpool are toying between going for Martinez or dipping back into the market to try and persuade Rodgers after he has already turned you down once. Currently it must really be an inspiring time to be a Liverpool fan!

I did want Hazard to come to the club, he has performed very well for two seasons and SAF clearly thought he was good enough to go and watch in person which is enough of a recommendation for me. However I can see why a young player like himself with no affiliation to any English club would choose Chelsea as they undeniably would have offered a lot of money coupled with the lifestyle of London. Obviously CL football was also a must which they have.

But really back to the point in hand, I think you probably should concentrate on your own worries Blair as Liverpool continue their now traditional summer of misplaced optism followed by underwhelming signings and then the inevitable failure to qualify for the CL.

Viva hernandez

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28 May 2012 21:01:14
Hazard signing for Chelsea! All quiet on the kagawa front. Another example of uniteds diminishing ability to sign world class players! As a united fan I can't quite put into words how dissapointed I feel! What a load of crap!!

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28 May 2012 21:00:47
I really can't decide whether Hazard is a genius or an absolute tool. Despite his tweet of joining the 'champions league winner', respectable journalists still question why whether it's Chelsea. Everyone has been eating out of the palm of this chap. Either way he knows how to play the footballing world!

Rudderpost

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28 May 2012 20:50:54
Now that he's signed for Chelsea I'll be money on everybody slating SAF, Gill, etc. saying how we never offered him enough money, etc.

The Moon.

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Yep, cue the onslaught ....
Personally i don't care so long as we can wrap up the Kagawa deal before that gets scuppered too. I don't think Hazard was ever on the cards once he promised to reveal via twitter who he was signing for. Can u ever imagine Fergie allowing that to happen? Early days in the transfer window guys..
BennyBlanco

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Everyone needs a scapegoat. Someone to vent their anger out on. I stubbed my toe earlier, I have never wanted to strangle the Glazers more ;)

Sydney!

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Well Moon don't you think it's a little bit convenient how once again we are in for a world class midfielder and we just don't get him. Glazers not prepared to pay. We should be shopping at Harrods and once again we will end up at Aldi. I AM KLOOT

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I dont think that is what happened i think we had offered him a great wage for hid age and then chelsea just came in and pretty much blew it out of the water.... We can always go for Rodriguez or Gaitan

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It's pretty clear Chelsea offered him more money but that is not say that we didn't offer him a good deal. We don't pay wages as high as City and Chelsea. Wesley didn't come last year because of his wages not because of the transfer fee. I think Hazard was coming to us until Chelsea got lucky and won the Champions League. I'm not being biased but I think that it is a bad career move for him. That team has no stability and the locker room is full of egos. Lets move on.

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Exactly, don't get me wrong I'm gutted we couldn't get Hazard but I'm just as excited about the prospect of Kagawa.

It will also mean instead of spending £35M on Hazard we can save £20M and look to invest it elsewhere.

The Moon.

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KLOOT - I do think it's a little odd, but what people seem to fail to see is that we're a massive club in an industrial city, every other big club is in a beautiful location.

Think about it, these players have to think about their lives and not just their jobs.

The Moon.

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Moon have you been to london ? some nice parts like most cities but plenty of absolute s**tholes as well.
johndenton

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28 May 2012 20:47:36
Let's see how Hazard likes it in our slipstream
- a la Ballack - his loss, he'll fit in well with the other big egos at Chelski

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28 May 2012 20:47:32
Eden Hazard: "I'm signing for the champion's league winner."
Via his twitter.

For anyone that is feeling bitter;
Hazard - 192 apps, 50 goals and 30 assists.
Kagawa - 198 apps, 86 goals and 45 assists
For a lot cheaper and a better attitude, we need to wrap him up ASAP!

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I wish people would stop using this stat. Kagawa is a good player but most of his goals and assists came in the J-League.

TK-Red

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Mate Kagawa had most of them in the J-League do your research !

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His stats for last season in Germany were on a power with Hazards in France

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To be fair, the j league is probably a better standard of football than ligue 1

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28 May 2012 20:55:54
Right if Hazard to Chelsea is true lets get Rodriguez and Kagawa snapped up ! imo he has chosen the wrong team chelsea have marin,mata,sturridge,malouda,kalou,lampard.essien,mereiles,obi mikel,ramires and whoever ive missed of that can play in midfield

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Malouda, Kalou, Essien & Meireles will unlikely be at Chelsea next season. There is plenty of room for Hazard unfortunately.

Sydney!

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Meireles?

Why would he not be there? Do you have any info on him?

Jono

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28 May 2012 20:54:04
lost hazard to chelsea. hope we get kagawa, guitan, defender an striker. its a bad blow losing hazard but we will b fine we have fergie somthin chelsea will niver have!

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28 May 2012 20:52:46
Thank you god. I can't believe the hype that surrounds Hazard. Total media whore, Chelski have a s**te stadium and above all else NO manager. We really do not need players like this. Granted, he is definately a talent but remember the French League is dross and he has acheved nothing. I wouldn't be surprised if SAF told him where to go weeks ago.

Timbostar

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Shut up you sore loser . He is a top class player who we would all love to play for us

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28 May 2012 20:52:45
convinced it will be like last summer linked with loads of top players, sign couple of average ones.

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Yes the best young keeper in the world, a future England captain and one of England's best attacking players, what a bunch of average players we signed last summer.

GDS

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28 May 2012 20:46:17
Well at least that's an end to it. Now we can hopefully secure Kagawa. Let's hope he doesn't decide to get a twitter account haha.

Rjmanutd

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28 May 2012 20:45:20
Well done united another we let go. Hazard officially joins Chelsea. We are for bad summer.

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Its not the end of the world, we will get other world class talent

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28 May 2012 20:39:59
Maybe this is all an elaborate hoax by Hazard to get more twitter followers? ;)

Rjmanutd

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28 May 2012 20:39:03
Hello my fellow United fans!

Personally I think we don't need Hazard, We already have Nani, Young, Valencia. Yes Nani may be inconsistent but he can be a game changer, from what I recall when he comes on as a sub I see him score nearly every time, the run into the box and the cheeky chip over the keeper?

We have lacked goals this season in my opinion, Our best Striker had to play as the CF role and still managed to get 2nd top goals scored, imagine Wayne as our ST? I believe he would be imence!! So that links with Kagawa, we need Kagawa in that hole providing to Rooney and sometime Rooney can play in that hole and provide to Welbeck/Hernandez'.

Once Vidic and hopefully fletcher is back, it will be like two brand new signings, I personally believe we will be fine next season if we just get Kagawa, A decent RB to fight for the position with Rafael and a LB to compete with Evra ( Baines is my choice ) and maybe a holding midfielder like Asohma ( sorry for spelling ).

If we did get Hazard it would be nice, but Not nessacary, if we got a winger I would like Gaitain, he is quality and it would be nice to have another RW to as again compete with Valencia, It would keep all of our players on form, plus he 'WANTS' to play for us!!

Sorry for the long text but I am fed up with all this Hazard nonsence.

Feel free to reply with your opinions and arguments towards this post.

JakeW-

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28 May 2012 20:45:08
Eden states on Twitter that he is signing for "Champions league winners".

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28 May 2012 20:45:07
Hazard to chelsea confirmed on twitter
Superdecs

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28 May 2012 20:44:12
Signed for chelsea just announced it

SC

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28 May 2012 20:43:25
Hazard on Twitter ''I will join the champions of europe''

Ah well, We miss out on another top talent

Dylan

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So we move on, expect Kagawa sorted by the weekend then.

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28 May 2012 20:32:26
Have I been banned or what Ed? None of my post are getting posted? Haven't done anything either?

DB-Red {Ed007's Note - No mate, you aren't banned.}

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Cheers bond

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28 May 2012 20:31:58
Just thought id share this if you havent seen it its brilliant and if you have seen it its still brilliant

youtube.com/watch?v=VZbL2h6pSTo

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28 May 2012 20:06:28
About time we all calmed down over this Hazard nonsense, the guy is obviously so far up hiw own ass that Chelsea will be the perfect place for him alongside the likes of cashley and terry.
Personally i'd prefer Kagawa, a lot cheaper, I think he is more proven in a good league and for me it seems like his personality would fit us better.
I think Hazard could cause problems.
Let's go and get Kagawa although I think we still need a proper central midfielder as i'd like to see Park and Ando to be shown the door, Scholesy and Giggsy one more season and maybe no Fletch back.
How many games will Clev play? Will Pogba still be at the club.
You can see us with Carrick and Scholesy in the centre again next season, great players just think we need more bite at times.

Red Daz

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28 May 2012 20:24:07
My dream team for next season (realistically)

____________________De Gea__________________
Rafael_________Vidic______Smalling________Baines
____________Cleverley______M'Villa______________
Nani________________Hazard___________Rodriguez
___________________Rooney___________________

I would maybe use Valencia for another season and sell him hes not getting any younger.

Hazard - 32m
M'Villa - 23m
Baines - 12m
Rodriguez - 20m + Anderson p/x

I would prefer a different left back maybe marcelo but madrid wouldnt sell so i just went with who were linked with

I would sell Nani if Valencia was a little younger but he isnt so i would keep him

Obviously this would never happen its a great team that maybe isnt too far out of reach but we can all dream

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Hardly realistic is it.

Sydney!

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Sorry i forgot that Valencia is ancient!

Seriously doubt we'd spend that much bud.

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28 May 2012 20:10:45
Today has been typical of the media just clutching at straws to get the public guessing, placing bets etc. Hazard is not going to Chelsea or City in my opinion. He's Utd bound I'm sure of it. Put a cheeky £10 bet on Hazard to Utd earlier aswell at 1/10. Fingers crossed!

RedMUFC

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You put a cheeky tenner on at £10 to one on? Ha Ha

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Hes goin chelsea
TRUMORS

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28 May 2012 20:06:52
Bond is clearly stressed! All posts are coming on the page twice. LOL

G.A.G.U.S {Ed007's Note - I will need to check it mate, that shouldn't be happening. Thanks.}

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Thats a double oh oh....

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28 May 2012 19:30:38
ED. I think there something wrong going on in our club ,but no body want to come out and say something.we want to invest on young players which is very good idea.but what's the point if we can't keep them.i saw pogba on reserves matches,this boy got potential to become a big player,i'll be so sad to see him go.usually this happen to small clubs not club like united,but real madrid,barcelona,now juventus turn us to be feeder club for them.

ferdcoast

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Paddy Crerand summed it up perfectly well. It is down to certain agents giving their clients poor advice. It's something that we have to live with nowadays.

Sydney!

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Lmao! grow up mate.

We sell Ronaldo, the only player we didn't want to sell and we're automatically a feeder club?

Seriously, wow.

Pogba is a talented lad but if you think things are as simple as they are on FIFA then you need to get educated.

This is probably one of the worst posts I've ever read.

The Moon.

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How are we a feeder club for anyone ? Pique was sold to Barcelona after showing nothing for us in the league etc just like Rossi, Forlan and all the others we have sold that have got better it happens in football leagues are different etc if there not performing or showing promise why keep them?

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Totally agree Moon

We sold Ronaldo for silly money no footballer should be worth that it was great business.

We have sold Pique to Barca ... he was useless for us pretty much same as guiseppe rossi and diego forlan they didnt stand out and they went on to improve immensely it doesnt make us a feeder club if a player isnt performing or improving here we cant keep him

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I disagree moon abt this beeing one of the worst posts. A couple of posts up theres a person who wants to sell valencia :)
Mick

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28 May 2012 20:07:24
If I ever hear the words Eden Hazard again in my lifetime it will be too soon.

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I dunno i could live with it if its him scoring the winner against City or in the Champions League final. unlikely....

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28 May 2012 19:36:47
Salut les gars. J'ai fait mon choix. Je vais bientôt l'annoncer.
Hey guys, i have made my choice. Going to share it soon.
This was posted on Hazards Facebook site 2 hours ago.......
God this man loves himself..........Just because the ELP champions, European Champions and the biggest club in the world are after him......you'd think he was the king of the world!!
I really hope he plays as good as he's ego believes he can!

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Biggest club in the world, are Real Madrid after him then?

How does he love himself? he's a good young player with a hard choice to make. let him make it without you thinking you know what he means and scrutinizing every comment he makes.

The Moon.

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Look stop getting at him when you know nothing about it apart from what you read !
He is a top class youngster one of the few wonderkids around at the minute hes got a hard choice to make regarding his career and life with living situation and family etc..

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28 May 2012 19:34:19
Hi Guys
So Hazard is going to announce who is signing for on a social Network.How classy.
He has turned this into a circus and I bet he believes his own headlines.
From what I've read and heard there is no doubt he has the potential to be top draw but theres also a chance he won;t fulfil his full potential.So if I was him I would show a bit of class and dignity.
Just for the record I hope he signs for us but I have this gut feeling that he won't.

Bazza The Red

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28 May 2012 19:28:08
Hazard has tweeted that he has chosen Manchester and looks forward to history with red devils

Can we believe this ?

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He hasn't Tweeted this as far as I know.

Sydney!

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You're a bit behind, that's already turnt out to be completely fake.

The Moon.

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28 May 2012 19:17:14
can someone post a link to where hazard has said the premier league is a stepping stone to real or barca?

if he joins united i dont think he would leave as he would be loved as much as rooney

cheers
jple23

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Ronaldo was loved by all of us and he left to go to his dream club.

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28 May 2012 18:55:00
Eds, although this twitter thing with hazard has hit the roof is the situation still the same? Obviously twitter (Saha) isn't a very reliable source
Cheers
Rhys

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28 May 2012 18:54:06
Eds, is it expected that Hazard will make his decision known this evening or will it be drawn out for the next few days. All rumours at the moment seem to point toward Chelsea unfortunately, thanks again eds

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28 May 2012 19:17:14
can someone post a link to where hazard has said the premier league is a stepping stone to real or barca?

if he joins united i dont think he would leave as he would be loved as much as rooney

cheers
jple23

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28 May 2012 19:12:13
Perhaps we should all calm down a little. Have we become so desperate for a player to sign that the first negative item even though false becomes a moment of despair?

I must admit I am finding this waiting to tell us which club he will grace with his presence a bit tawdry but he is media savvy so it comes as part of his package, what gives him extraordinary confidence.

We wait and for one I am patient because this should be the first of at least two major signings and i would class kagawa as a good signing but not necessarily major. Martinez is the other one for me and a striker unless Powell can challenge now. If it doesnt happen then we fall behind in an alarming way. The club have to make a statement with this, after all as SAF advised Coppell years ago he should ask Gill are we a big club?

On Kagawa it seems to have stalled, I wonder if he is back up or whether Kagawa is waiting to see where his manager goes?

Have patience for the time being

Red Man

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You have any info on Hazard, Red Man? Has the source that told you about Guardiola joining SAF told you anything on Hazard?

G.A.G.U.S

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Why would Kagawa care where his manager goes? He was willing to leave him at Dortmund so why would he care where he goes? I was thinking about the Kagawa thing and could it be because United are tied up in this Hazard battle and top negotiators are busy or are United looking to announce Kagawa, Clyne, Powell etc all at the same time?

Sydney!

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28 May 2012 19:10:00
Hi, chelsea fan here! I'd just like to say do you really need Hazard with your wingers such as nani, valencia and young? I saw a post on this site saying he'd be on the bench at chelsea but I disagree, he would walk into our starting 11! Also I'd just like to say that I wouldn't get too upset with hazard yet! He could be playing anywhere next season!

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Blimey a Chelsea fan who talks lots of sense!!

It's not Ed 002 in disguise is it?

Mike

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28 May 2012 19:06:07
This Hazard saga is like what we had with Wesley last season. I say to hell with these players, if you don't want to play for Man Utd go & ply your trade elsewhere, we are the biggest club side in the world & if that does not float your boat, well your not fit to wear our shirt, rant over, end off:)

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28 May 2012 19:03:17
I sick of all this Hazard talk, Have a feeling its just gonna end up like Nasri, Sanchez etc.

I know who id rather anyway

Hazard, 192 apps 50 goals and 30 assists
Kagawa, 198 apps, 86 goals and 45 assists

I think the German league is a harder league than Ligue 1, Gimme Kagawa anyday

Dylan

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Difference being that 3/4 of those games were in the J-League which certainly isnt stronger than the French top division.

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Dylan
sorry to disappoint you but much of those 198 have come in the j league

p.s im not saying hazard is better
DJ

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You are "sick of all this Hazard talk", and the subject of your post is mainly......

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Difference being that 3/4 of those games were in the J-League which certainly isnt stronger than the French top division.

TK-Red

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Dylan
sorry to disappoint you but much of those 198 have come in the j league

p.s im not saying hazard is better
DJ

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You are "sick of all this Hazard talk", and the subject of your post is mainly......

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28 May 2012 18:57:13
look saha only said his views nobody knows yet!!

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28 May 2012 18:55:45
if chelsea is where hazard ends up thats his choice
there a great club with great players there the reigning european champions and london is a big attraction
and united can always pursue munain gaitan belhanda
or my personal choice rodriquez he's not the only great player with bags of promise cjwales82

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28 May 2012 18:44:31
Saha has come out and said that he is just a fan like us and its all sppeculation still and he doesn't know for sure. Saha's comments were what sparked off the media story, its all rubbish.

RedDevil19

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It wasn't Saha's Tweet that sparked off the Hazard to Chelsea rumours.

Sydney!

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28 May 2012 18:40:50
I really hope that we do sign Hazard, then we will see all the named and unamed clowns on here who have said he's an person lick his arse and be so glad that we have signed a world class player. Not one person on here will genuinly be dissapointed that he has signed, even if they say it.

RedDevil19 {Ed007's Note - Just because someone signs for your team doesn't mean that he can't be a kn*b any more.}

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I think Hazard is a knob and will still think he's a knob if he signs for us. I have disliked a few United players in the past. I am not a huge fan of Owen if I am honest.

Sydney!

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While I agree with Ed007, I do also think that many of the reactions and opinions today and in recent days have been brought on by reports that he is going to another club. I know everyone is fed up with the whole thing but Lille's season only ended last week and its a big decision so lets give the lad time to decide and announce it when he is good and ready.

TK-Red

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How is Hazard a "world class player"? What has achived to get that honour?
He's not world class.....he's very good....but he's not Messi, Ronaldo.....etc

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28 May 2012 18:34:19
ins:

clyne
powell 4M
baines 12M
strootman 16M
kagawa 14M
TOTAL:46M

outs:

kuszack
berbatov 10M
macheda 2M
park 2M
TOTAL: 14M....
TOTAL SPENT: 32M


------------de gea-----------
rafael----vidic--small----baines
-------scholes--strootman----
valencia-----kagawa-----young
-------------rooney-----------

i for one would be very happy with that.

JK92 (Banter please ed)

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It looks like 14 Million wont be enough to buy Kagawa :(

MUMBAI_BOY

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Re Baines

Why would we get the 2 nd best (by some distance) English left back? When we have the whole world to choose from.

Mike

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28 May 2012 18:50:01
I think some are jumping the gun with hazard. Its all paper/twitter talk at present over chelsea. Ed's have all said today no change. My initial thought is chelsea 4 location and money, but they are managerless why would he go there in that situation. All reports said lastweek us? Personally i could take him or leave him. All the toying with media is putting me off him, but until offically announced 50/50 fight in my eyes
Jenny

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28 May 2012 18:18:51
If we wanted a player who is self obsessed and lives his life through twitter we would have bought Joey Barton!

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Difference is that Joey Barton is completely useless...must be why he throws so many tantrums.

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28 May 2012 18:12:55
Radio reports now saying hazard isn't going to name his club today. This guy it a complete clown and is in line to join the biggest circus in world football. Can you imagine fergie putting up with the little sh!t. Very good player but at what cost? Think he has chosen a club that will really suit his character.
Red1

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Is he "the clown" or are we for paying any attention to t**ter

Mike

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28 May 2012 17:57:34
We've apparently lost out on Robben, Essien, Ramsey, Kompany, Ozil, Benzema, Sahin, Sneijder, Nasri, & Sanchez in the past.

I really want us to get Hazard cause it's causing a lot of commotion and getting lots of press.
This could be classed as an EPIC signing. Even better if he admits he was offered more to play for City or Chelski.

Who cares if he dreams of Spain in 2/3seasons time.
It's spend 32m now and sell 60+m if he plays well for us.

2/3 seasons time the likes of our gifted academy players Møller Dæhli and that Andreas Peirera will be ready by then.

Like I said, I'd love Hazard to come but I'll be greedy and say I wouldn't want it to jeopardise our bid for Kagawa.
Both players are quality.

If this Nick Powell turns out to be a goalscoring midfielder then bring him to O.T.

So Hazard stop pissing about get your pen out and sign on the dotted line. Forge Paul Pogba's while your at it ;-)

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What if it's the other way around? What if we offered Hazard more money than City or Chelsea.....and he chose to go to Chelsea....because it's in London.
Footballers have families and they have a say in certain matters....
4 of the players you mentioned chose to play in London....4 chose to play in Spain, 1 chose Italy......1 chose Manchester....1 in 10 chose Manchester.
These people don't support Man United.....they have glamour's wives and partners that would prefer to shop and dine in Milan and wander around the ramblas than the Trafford Centre.....so even if the Glazers and Man United offered loads of cash...they might not come.
Before you mention, City.....how many of their top players move on after a couple of seasons......?

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28 May 2012 17:51:47
Just a quick question lads. Is it true Hazard will reveal his destination soon via twitter as I read earlier he was supposed to do so at 5? Also was wondering if it is likely we will sign both Kagawa and Hazard? It just seems to good to be true as we all hyped ourselves up last summer that we would sign both Young and Sanchez ( well I did anyway) and some believed we might sign both Sneijder and Nasri! I did think it was more likely it would happen as oppoesed to last summer but after today's news it just brings me back to the let down of last summer when we have missed out on a great player.

Legend 16

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28 May 2012 17:47:20
Hey United fans!
First time posting something. I'm a big United fan from Slovenia and of course I'm expecting some good buys this summer.

Everybody are hoping that United will sign 4-5 players this summer. The reality is that United will probably sign 3 players that are needed. Not needed in fans eyes but in Fergies eyes. Hazard will probably end up in Chelsea so Fergie will try to bring players that he really wants...KAGAWA(16-18m), BAINES(12-14m), POWELL(4-5m)!
With KAGAWA United will get that special touch that can turn the game around with one pass or a goal. I seen him play a lot of times and he is really good.
BAINES will be signed to cover Evra as Fergie sees that he is not at his best anymore.
POWELL is the one for the future!

If there is a posibility to somehow sign "the next star" the targets are Gaitan, Rodriguez, but only if we could get them for around 20 - 25m. That means that one United player could be sent the other way.

This is my opinion and expectations for this summer. I think that Fergie hopes that Fletcher and Vidic will be like new signings if they will be fit. I think that with this team we can regain Premier League and be high in Champions League with a little luck.

Sorry for bad English
Pato

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I do not believe we are interested in Baines. I think it's codswallop. Why would we waste £15m on a 28 year old that is too slow and too weak to ever be a top quality player. I would rather spend £3m on an 18 year old Willems and watch him become a world class talent.

Sydney!

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Amen Sydney. Signing Baines would make no sense at all.

Pip

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I agree about Baines but as I wrote, this is Fergie plan I think. If I would choose a player for LB it would be Cissokho and or Willems. For now Willems is too young and if we want to compete at the top level he is not ready and Evra is not what he was 3 seasons ago so we need player to compete with Evra.

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28 May 2012 17:43:25
we don't need Hazard he good but not that good he only care about money that all.
we got nani valencia young i think we should focus on Kagawa i would love to see him at united such a good midfield i would say he better than david silva tbh.

we need central midfield with vision like snejider,strootman,ozil,sergio basqet.

robben insted of hazard for me and new left back

any comment guys??

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What does Rooney care about? I AM KLOOT

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'KLOOT'

His hair?


Anon

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KLOOT,

You keep implying that Rooney only cares about money because of his contract situation but if that's the case, he would of gone to City regardless because they can offer him more.

He didn't handle the situation great admittedly but he voiced his concerns and his contract offer from the club would of been to show him they will spend, they will invest! What you want him to do, say, no thanks I'll take your word for it!

Ultimately, football is a short career and players will get as much as they can, all of them but Rooney gives 100% when he plays, he's not just picking up his wages and that's it, 35 goals in all comps this season, what more do you want, only Messi, Ronaldo, Van Persie, Huntelaar and Ibrahimovic scored more league goals in their respective leagues and with the exception of Van Persie, the others aren't playing in stronger leagues then Rooney.

I think you need to get over it mate!

Ports

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KLOOT,

You keep implying that Rooney only cares about money because of his contract situation but if that's the case, he would of gone to City regardless because they can offer him more.

He didn't handle the situation great admittedly but he voiced his concerns and his contract offer from the club would of been to show him they will spend, they will invest! What you want him to do, say, no thanks I'll take your word for it!

Ultimately, football is a short career and players will get as much as they can, all of them but Rooney gives 100% when he plays, he's not just picking up his wages and that's it, 35 goals in all comps this season, what more do you want, only Messi, Ronaldo, Van Persie, Huntelaar and Ibrahimovic scored more league goals in their respective leagues and with the exception of Van Persie, the others aren't playing in stronger leagues then Rooney.

I think you need to get over it mate!

Ports

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28 May 2012 17:31:06
I am not to bothered about hazard he is not are main issue midfield is I really want us to get strootman kagawa and a big striker preferably lewandowski and I would a 4 1 4 1 formation strootman in front of the back four kagawa and rooney both in behind lewandowski but very much changeable an kagawa would tend to be a little more deeper but with strootman he wouldn't have to worry to much if we got the ball. 2 wingers young and toni v for me everytime and I would sell nani if it gave us funds to buy a young talent like rodriguez. Left back is essential united always look strong at the back but last season everytime a team countered evra was caught out every time he must be a nightmare for our centre halfs they always look in decent positions and then one of them will have to help evra out because he hasn't tracked back or he has got beaten very easily. Lots of people hate baines I like him he has a lot more to offer than evra he is good at set pieces which we have been really poor at all season good crosser with him young and especially valencia crossing in lewandowski would score loads. Right back I would get clyne in to challenge rafael because the twins need to impress soon or be sold I think clyne could be really good at united he wouldn't be a bad punt because he could definitely handle the physicality because he has been playing in the championship for 2 3 seasons and he is only 20 21 now. Some young players aswell like powell maybe just him if some of younger ones sign contracts.
REDMAN 1987

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28 May 2012 17:29:43
i think hazard will b at united next year i hope. i also hope we get the kagawa deal done soon two great players we also need a defender and we would b good to go.

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28 May 2012 17:14:53
This is actually quite amusing. I want Hazard to sign for us as much as anyone but people really need to chill out. If he chooses Chelsea or City the fair enough we will move on. I wonder if people will be saying they never wanted Hazard if he signs for someone else or the same people saying I always wanted him if he chooses us. If he doesn't choose us then I'll be pretty gutted because it means we have missed out on a superb player and our rivals have gained themselves one but you would think the entire future of United hangs on this deal.

Rjmanutd

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28 May 2012 17:11:25
Louis Saha To Eden Hazard On Twitter
@louissaha08
I can't wait for him to confirm his destination.@hazardeden10

Apparently on his way to Chelseafc.@hazardeden10



RamoN 19

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I wonder why Louis Saha is getting an Orgasm on this Hazard thing..

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Ramon, if you are going to quote these two atleast quote the MORE important ones after...

"Read correctly. I said apparently. So calm down."

"Im just like everyone. Only him and clubs knows. We, Fans of football have to wait and see."

As Loius pointed out in his tweet, and I pointed out earlier on this site, he said 'apparently' after reading spreading rumours...

MPez

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28 May 2012 17:01:07
why peoples are trying to prove that hazard is not a good player??
if he join chelsea still i will be happy...cz epl need some more quality players.....
man utd will go all out for modric if we miss out on hazard....kagawa is almost a done deal....looks like asamoah could join or we should go for sahin.....
lewandoski or van wolfswinkel or damiao.....that will be it!
i dn't think we will buy a new lb as evra to continue....may be nxt season!
ft9

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28 May 2012 16:48:07
chelsea dont have a permanent manager ..... does that gives us some hope.
i would love to have your thoughts ED {Ed007's Note - Should I have a Chinese or pizza for my dinner.....hhhmmmmm.}

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28 May 2012 16:45:47
Didn't I say yesterday that the media will milk this Eden Hazard saga until the very end?

G.A.G.U.S

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It's heaven for Journo's...nobody but Hazard, Lille and most likely the destination, so the journalists can just continually spout what ever horsesh*t they want to.

In a situation like this, back pages will ALWAYS be filled.

MPez

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28 May 2012 16:45:36
Just seen a black range rover pull up outside old trafford with two mercs, Im sure it was hazard stepping out and being escorted through the tunnel.

He was wearing a chelsea shirt and he was on the phone to mancini. Apparently he said he couldn't make his mind up so he is going to sign a one year contract with all three of us and decide who he plays for each game. He is then going to leave for madrid where he will be shown off to the crowd at a big conference where he will infuriate fans by displaying his Barca tattoo before leaving the season after to play in serie A, Though he is not sure whether to sign for and take a season out of the game to decide.

He will then announce his retirement from football aged 26, deciding that he is too big for the game and he would like the next fifa president where he will introduce the new weekly contract system.

1redarmy (bored)

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28 May 2012 16:35:56
I would be very happy with M'Vila, Kagawa and Lewandowski i don't think we have the money though

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M'Vila is not a target anymore. The manager said we will not be signing a defensive midfielder. All three would cost less than £50m and we spent that last summer, so not sure I agree that we cannot afford them. Hazard alone would cost more than two of them.

Sydney!

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28 May 2012 16:35:05
1) Everyone was so happy when Hazard wanted us, funny how everyone hates him now.

2) We hyped this deal up, nobody else.

3) How about we all just stop talking about it until he says something concrete or wait until he makes his mind up over the coming weeks?

The Moon.

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Well posted, i've been saying this for weeks. Hazard has said that he wants to play for one of Chelsea, City or us and he's now said he has made up his mind. You could say he has stirred the press, but i don't think he has. He has made a few honest words that the press either twist or duplicate to mean different things week in week out. The press are the ones that are going on about it, not the club, not Lille, not his agent and not Eden.

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Completely agree.

The Sneijder deal was all over the papers but this isn't even making the back pages every day, we're the people making this out to be such a huge thing not him.

Okay, he's made a couple of comments but nothing that I think have been big enough to start up a real debate.

Take for instance the little devils comment, WE took that as a hint when it quite clearly wasn't.

The way I see it is if he signs then great, if he doesn't then he's not the only CAM on the planet.

The Moon.

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28 May 2012 16:31:12
Why is everyone on about hazard going to chelsea. It could be any of the four clubs. He said he has made a decision but will not confirm to public till this weekend. Also what saha said is bs and also the papers speak bs. So overall lets wait untill the england game and see what happens. Imo i think he will go to united.

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28 May 2012 16:28:00
Eden Hazard v Shinji Kagawa Stats: Played 192/198. Goals 50/86. Assists 38/45. Cost €35m/€20m. Make up your own mind!

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For a midfielder to get 86 goals and 45 assits in 198 games is AMAZING. I don't even think the likes of Ozil, Lampard have those sorts of stats. I'm not saying I wouldn't love both here, but i'd be pretty damn happy if Kagawa came in on his own.

RedDevil19

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And

French league V German league

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You fail to mention that most of Kagawa's goals and assists came in the J-league (and most of those in its second tier). I like Shinji - but Hazard is a much better player. That said the stats (that matter) only just reflect that...

Last 2 seasons (games/goals/assists) -

Kagawa: 71/29/15 Hazard: 100/34/26

T0MB0Z

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28 May 2012 16:21:23
O and of the 3 to 'watch out' for only Anita is half decent in the list.

thanks for making me laugjh this morning with your nonsense, are you blair mayne in disguise?

Eriksen IS class, if you cannot see it, your a mug.

ms85 (both posts)""
dear mr ms85
ngiak thanks you for your insults
after that flowery prose, ngiak is certain many on this site will take your comments very seriously
despite your persuasive nature
ngiak us very certain what he is talking about
Ashley young will prove to be a better buy than him
too small too lightweight and disappears more often than Ashley
gan

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Too lightweight....then what about jordi alba gan?
DJ

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28 May 2012 16:17:05
As much as I'd love to snap up hazard I think we should forget about him and focus more on kagawa and strootman. These two alone would be an amazing transfer window for united. They are the kind of players we have needed for the last few seasons and I wish fergie would go all out to get these two signed up quickly and quietly before the likes of s**tty and chelski decide they want them like they do with most of our transfer targets. As for Martinez, strootman is a far better choice, I've been watching both of them play for a while now and strootman ticks all the right boxes to be the back bone of united

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28 May 2012 16:16:16
Look when a player is saying he is going to announce where he is going he aint coming to UTD. Thats not how we do deals. Guys ego's too big we dont need that.

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28 May 2012 16:08:24
This hazard transfer is getting boring now! No one knows where he wants to go to except hazard and his representetives! Everything else is just speculation so lets all just wait and see who he signs for. If he doesnt sign for us them more fool him Were man utd and we always march on regardless!

Leebo7

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It is getting boring isn't it. I heard Wesley Sneijder is a fan of Cornation Street... potential move there?

Gar

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28 May 2012 15:50:27
Silly rabbit, trix are for kids. Silly me also. Since Ronaldo left I have worked very hard to temper my expectations every transfer window as we have consistently been linked with top players only for the deals to fall through or never have any truth to them in the first place. This past week I stupidly began to believe that united might actually sign one of their top targets. Silly me, I fell back into foolish optimism with regards to hazard. Now instead of the normal amount of disappointment that has come to be expected, I got my hopes up just in time for hazard to sign with Chelsea. I guess I'll never learn. KG

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I'm in the same boat pal, I thought I was better than that too! lol

Gav

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28 May 2012 15:36:04
All this Hazard nonsense is getting out of hand. The Sneijder saga was bad enough last year, but at least Sneijder didn't feel the need to tweet about the transfer every other hour.

I don't care if we sign Hazard, I do care that we wrap up Kagawa soon before anyone else bids for him. Missing out on Hazard will not be the worst thing in the world, provided the money is spent elsewhere.

Danny Pughnited

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28 May 2012 15:19:47
Hazard this, Hazard that - Hazard has said this, Hazard has said that.

Hazard talks to fecking much!!!

Let's concetrate on a player who is not so talkative and is currently wanting to join us. Step forward one Shinji Kagawa!

Does anyone have any further info on his protracted move the greatest club in the world?

Last i read we had a 13 mil sterling offer rejected and had gone back with a revised 16mil sterling offer.

Please stop with the Douchbag that is Hazard. Atleast until he actually tells the world where he is officially going, Otherwise it'll just be more attention seeking nonesense.

Monk

Ed's if you heard or know something on the Kawaga purchase please divulge. : - ) {Ed007's Note - There is no change in the Kagawa situation that I know of.}

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28 May 2012 15:18:44
How would Saha know Wat this lad is gonna do if he was a friend or something surly he would direct him uniteds way being an ex player of this wonderful club just strikes me as odd you never really hear of an ex player talkin about a transfer of a player to a club he has nothin to do wit so maybe Saha is just stiring it up an the surprise is that we have him. Until I see him holdin a shirt poseing for pics wit his new manager I still think we are the better option

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Saha said he wants him to sign for United in his previous tweet. He is not a friend, he heard something, posted it on Twitter and the world went mad. Is Twitter for you.

GDS

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Why would Saha say anything good about us? for all we know he may have had a a terrible experience at United.

The Moon.

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28 May 2012 15:15:39
something i dont understand.

we know chelsea have torres sturridge mata. along with this they have bought marin and looking likely to try and sign hulk. where does hazard fit into this?

TRUMORS

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Torres, Drogba, Malouda, Kalou and Sturridge may not be there next season. There's plenty of room.

Sydney!

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Hulk_____Hazard_____Mata
________Torres__________

That's probably how.

M.D.

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Well its going to be one of moura, hulk or hazard unless mr.roman hasn't planned of a 200 million summer spree
DJ

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28 May 2012 15:00:53
So today I've seen Chelsea linked with Hazard, Robben, Hulk, Ibrahimovich, Van Der Wiel, no doubt they will be linked with Modric soon and have reportedly put in a bid for Lucas Moura and have already signed Marko Marin and Kevin De Bruyne.

This is a team that does not yet have a confirmed Manager and, although won the champions league which I am not taking away from them, they got dominated twice by Barcelona and once by Bayern Munich and also came 6th in the Premier League.

I really would not read to much into these Hazard/Chelsea rumours just yet.

But if he does go there, then, I have said before, the boy talks to much and when you talk alot, you got to back it up!

I'm not denying he doesn't have the ability but the Premier League is so different to any other League and we have seen in the past, players can't just walk in and take it by storm, with the exception on Aguero, Toure and Silva, although all of them had dips in form but had proved themselves in a tougher League then the French so their ability was never in question.

Hazard needs a Manager that can nurture him and take him out the firing line when things get tough and SAF is the best at this, but it seems it's now in the boys hands where he goes and I think his decision will show what he deems important for him!

On a side note, I think we should really be looking at the Conte/Juventus situation and look to take advantage of that if he/them are found guilty, putting bids in for Vidal and Machissmo. They have already been relegated for match fixing before so surely FIFA will throw the book at them? Although Platini did play for them so will prob get away with it, which leads me on to my last, thing, anyone seen Tevez, although Video footage proves he should of been sent off for his involvement in the Barton incident, has gotten away with no punishment from the FA! Bernstein is a massive.... (let you boys fill in that blank)

Ports

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I don't think it's got anything to do with Juve - it's from Conte's time with Siena.

M.D.

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28 May 2012 14:52:54
I wouldn't be so sure of Hazard to Chelsea just yet. Let's look at the facts. The last few days there have been reports in France of Hazard to us and Hazard to Chelsea. The only reason people are saying 100% Chelsea is because of what Saha said and lets face it how would he know? Of course Twitter has blown up about this, but that means nothing.

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28 May 2012 15:00:37
All jumped the gun a bit there. Saha has withdrawn his comment, confirming he doesnt actually know. Theres no reason why hazard would choose Chelsea as they play negative football and only won the UCL on pens after Bayern missed a few winners. I dont think Hazard will anounce his destination before June 2nd

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The whole story is based on a couple of comments on twitter by saha and hazard that didnt really confirm anything.
god knows what would of happened if one of them had twitted the world was going to end
jred

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As cyruff said, chelsea winning the ucl was a disgrace
DJ

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Plus he said that he would love him to play for Tottenham or Manchester United.

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28 May 2012 14:29:32
If Hazard has decided to go to Chelsea then so be it! that bench will suit him!! we need players who will give their all for our club and he obviously isnt upto it!

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So if he chooses us you wont want him?

1redarmy

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28 May 2012 14:25:44
Hi chaps,

Love this site. It's brilliant.

Shouldn't be posting as I'm not a Utd fan (come on you Saints!) but I can tell you that Hazard is joining Chelsea.

Absolutely 100% stone cold truth.

But, you are signing Kagawa, which you should be pleased about because he's a fantastic player who can orchestrate attacks and is delightfully clever at using the ball.

Can't help with much else, but it's pretty
obvious that you'll sign a striker of some description and maybe Baines - which you should also be pleased about, as he is significantly better than Evra.

Kind Regards, best wishes for the season,

PartyPooper

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Hey partypooper (saints fan) just stick to rugby !

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I dont understand why people r saying that hazard is definitely signin for chelsea it just pure speculation nothin concrete ...this guy has just posted what its said in every paper over the last month and that its stone cold truth....i read hazards twitter and he says that he made his decision nothing else but didnt he say that last friday saturday and sunday...it will all be over on saturday and if he comes to us great if not best of luck to him i wish there was 3 clubs offerin me 200k a week to kick leather into some twine but its still 50/50 .....wel go for lavezzi if hazard falls through 20/25m.....the hazard rumor mill will be overflowin for the next 5 days....oh yeah fergie jus got sacked and kenny dalglish is takin over 100% stone cold truth....i was winderin why he was in OT lastnight....what a load of bulwinkle

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28 May 2012 14:14:46
First time poster:
If the rumours are true it looks like Hazard has chosen to move to Chelsea. David Gill says we can still compete in the transfer market. I will believe it when I see it!

The excuses "There's no value in the market" and "we will develop youth because that's what we are good at" don't wash with me! Quite frankly I will be very surprised if we get any top quality young players.

Hazard won't come, and the longer it goes on the more I am worried Kagawa won't either!

I really thought we were in for an exciting transfer window but buy the looks of it we are just going to be disappointed once again!

We didn't win a thing last season, also we didnt even get past the group stages of the Champions league! How are we supposed to win anything and be successful next season if we don't improve the squad?

The Glazers are killing our club!

And before i get slated,I love the club,I'm a Manchester United fan through and through and that is why I am so worried about the clubs future!

Jonny Woo

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Jonny i agree with you!
I think the money is there to buy the likes of Hazard but my worry is we are struggling to convince them to join.
I know that money is a massive factor but the name alone (Manchester United Football Club) should be a major factor and maybe it isn't now?
Chelsea are as cardboard club with no pedigree or history so if our old friend Eden decides to join them it will have been purely financial
Lets remember Chelsea are the European Champions. I don't listen to people who say they were looky against Barcelona and Bayern, the fact is they did win it and they go down in history as the 2012 European Champions.
The worry now is who will come in?
The first Kagawa bid was rejected because we didn't match the price Dortmund wanted which put other teams on alert.
I have a horrible feeling that we will be watching Giggs and Scholes again next season!

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Man Utd have consistently disappointed in the transfer market, even before the Glazers. I've learned to deal with it over time.
Mostly it's just fans getting their own hopes up. Get excited, sure. Just don't be crushed if we don't sign Batistuta.
....Hazard, sorry. I mean Hazard. It's 2012.

M.D.

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LOL i was sure we were getting Batistuta at least 2 years on the run!

Gav

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28 May 2012 14:00:49
We will find out soon on ss news probly in the next hour where hazard plays. I for one Cantwait for it to end I'm abit sick of it now, looks like chelsea so so be it. Move on to next transfer target which we will prob loose out on. end of the day if u don't pay the money u don't get ur man! And utd have no money I think its gill again banging on about how we have the money but don't seem to buy quality! Look forward to a giggs scholes carrick and young line up again with rooney (if he doesn't leave) and wellbeck.

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Last year we spent £50m on Young, deGea and Jones.
Let's at least give it some time before we start writing off the whole transfer window!


M.D.

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28 May 2012 14:09:01
Guys don't believe anything until its official...no-one in Hazard's camp has said anything about where he is going. Lets wait and see...wouldnt be surprised if it was still undecided come this evening....he just loves all this attention.

Stuey

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28 May 2012 14:08:11
Not really fussed as to where hazard goes seems bit of a Burke to me , I am not doubting that he may very well be off to chelsea , but how on earth would Saha kno ? Different nationality , different league and you couldn't say those two look like peas in a pod so where as Louis got his info from ?

Warrington red

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28 May 2012 14:02:29
Proving these 'Hazard to Chelsea' rumors are true, i fail to see why he would join a side that finished 6th in the best league in the world, regardless of the champions league win.

I would play for utd on minumum wage!

Ste-Utd

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28 May 2012 13:59:23
Never wanted Hazard anyway (lie) i know theres alot of hype about Hazard but i still think Kagawa is close to him in quality and he is still an exciting addition providing we can get that deal wrapped up soon

Matt89

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28 May 2012 13:45:51
Eden Hazard has agreed to join ChelseaFC after his wife agreed terms with John Terry

:)

Matt4486

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28 May 2012 13:42:33
Number of press sites stating Hazard is on his way to Cobham for a medical in advance of signing for Chelsea.

Very mixed feeling about this - firstly anger as you do start to read the hype that we have missed out on the next best thing after he had seemingly chosen us.

I do think the kid, however talented though, is a prick-tease! Maybe Fergie has seen through that and just thought enough is enough.

I am dissappointed though as this looked to be the signing that was putting us back up there with the big guns in terms of competing for new major signings and an episode like this just gives you that sinking feeling that we are just inept when it comes to 'major transfer business'. Its Sneijdergate Mark 2 for sure.

To my mind we have only 'won' battles for 4 major signings in the last ten years. Rooney and Ferdinand have been great successes and Veron and Berbatov have been costly failures (yes I know Berba has scored a lot of goals but against what quality of opposition?).

Hopefully though we can add a couple of million onto the Kagawa deal though and get him signed up TODAY (!) and concentrate on other quality players who can enhance the squad. Rodrigues has been mentioned in a swap deal involving Anderson which would be a Win Win for me. I would also like to see Gaitan though who has openly expressed his desire to play for us.

A player who WANTS to play for us ? Surely a better proposition than Hazard but I wont be saying that if he turns out to the superstar everyone thinks he will be.

Halesini

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Ed002 seems to have gone missing so perhaps Chelsea are closing in on Hazard.

Sydney! {Ed007's Note - Ed002 is on her way to the France then the USA Syd.}

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28 May 2012 13:19:52
So, Eden Hazard has tweeted he has finally made his mind up, and now are reporting it is Chelsea he has chosen to join. I dont trust a word says e.g last year joe cole had signed a contract at united according to them but, if this is true then i believe hes made the wrong chocie as i cant see chelsea challenging for a top two spot next season and i cant see them winning the champions league again anytime soon, i mean dont get me wrong, i wanted them to beat bayern munich but they were very very very lucky, and very very poor!

All views welcome :)

Trickee

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28 May 2012 13:20:33
if hazards watching mutv right now he will be singing for man utd 99 champs league final replay

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...unless he switches off after 90 minutes.

M.D.

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28 May 2012 13:17:49
Looks like chelski is hazards destination, real pity.

Lorcan

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28 May 2012 12:44:46
Hazard is off to chelsea guys to be confirmed soon,we cant compete with the wages at all glazers need to sell up

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How old are you? 4 or 5 by the sound of that last post?
So do you think we should give an unproven player in the ELP £250,000 + a week wages.
What would that do to the other players that have been at United longer?
He has stated that he has accepted all the teams involved.....however he has a partner and a child.....maybe and until it's official.....LONDON sounds like a better place to live than MANCHESTER...
So how can the Glazers compete with that? Maybe we should relocate to London too..........Foreign players tend to like the south over the north.....get over it!

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Is there any evidence that hazaed is looking for 250k a week , i thought his agent had confirmed he had agreed terms with city chelsea and united
jred

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28 May 2012 12:40:20
Have I received a ban for something? As I often feel like half of my posts never make it through to be published.

I do not think their lacking in quality so I can only assume that they're deliberately not being posted for some reason.

Joe {Ed007's Note - If you were banned your posts wouldn't come through.}

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28 May 2012 13:16:39
Are the ed's hearing anything on the grapevine with regards a timeframe till Hazard makes an official decision?
Notice this twitter announcement, but does anyone reckon it will follow swiftly with another announcement?
See Chelsea sight is saying, French press, Saha etc say Hazard has chosen Chelsea.......

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28 May 2012 13:07:40
So Hazard tweeted to say he's decided which is good news but this prompted me to check the odds and they didn't make good reading.

It pains me to say but; would we all agree that the bookies are not often wrong there a highly profitable business for a reason, and even after the coverage on Sky Sports news last week saying Hazard wants to sign for Man Utd the current odds are as follows:

Chelsea 1/8 - £10 returns - £11.25
Man Utd 1/6 - £10 returns - £70.00
Man City 1/10 - £10 returns - £110.00

There not even remotely close, im aware that City started favorites then we were favorites now it would appear Chelsea are massive favorites but surely the important time is now?

I'm hoping all you wise and wonderful people can help me rekindle my optimistic approach id had up until now?

Thanks

Matt4486

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Either way im glad this will finally END today.

Doni

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The bookies have slashed their odds on Hazard to Chelsea apparantly because Louis Saha tweeted saying "he's apparantly going to Chelsea" personally haven't got a clue how Saha would have inside knowledge but who knows? I'd imagine he will still know more than any of us though.

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How does 1/8 return £11.50?

MPez

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Sly had the odds the opposite way around last week. its there ploy for people to bet. they have always been the same.
although i initally thought hazard would sign, i am now convinced he is off to chelsea.
jenny

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They're betting odds. They mean absolutely f**k all in terms of their accuracy of where hes going. No one knows where Hazard is going. How would they without there being a press conference? Its just SS trying to make the most money through betting as they possibly can.

Welsh Dragon

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28 May 2012 12:59:08
Hazard has stated his mind is made up. Obvious he has gone to City or Chelsea. If he wanted to play for United he would of just said it. We will not offer more wages then Chelsea and City so his decision is based on money. United should sign Kagawa, Gaitan, Lewandowski and a holding midfielder. Charles Kabore from Marseille is a good shout and wouldnt cost too much.

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28 May 2012 12:09:05
Chelsea have got hazard then , no manager but he's chooses them for playing time and position , money talks after all so that's us scraping for players from the championship, mid table here we come

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Yes, because there is only one player available that is good enough. Grow up.

GDS

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28 May 2012 12:08:38
Patrice Evra has tried to persuade Eden hazard to sign for united, well we will never sign him now look at the good job Evra did when he convinced nasri to sign.

Anon

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28 May 2012 12:08:03
Hazard 1/6 to join Chelsea with sly bet another 1 slips through the net fergie is shocking at sealing deals

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Yea somehow its fergies fault that a player chooses another club.

Doni

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Yes he never signed anyone in 25 years, get him sacked!

GDS

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Fergie doesn't close deals you nugget.
Do you think he makes the dinners and polishes the boots too?
Maybe replenish the toilet roll or count the training cones?
I think I saw him tying Rooneys laces as well...... actually, that would sound about right......

Whistler.

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28 May 2012 11:56:40
Just seen on twitter this past half hour that Hazard has 'made up his mind'. Not sure if it's even Eden Hazard writing this stuff but let's hope it is and let's hope he's made the right choice! I feel a bit like he's milking all this attention over which club he'll choose, but maybe that's just me being cynical. Having said that I'd still love to see him in a United shirt! Just hope that if we do sign both Kagawa and Hazard, that Fergie can develop a system in which we use both players to their full potential. I still have this nagging feeling that we're missing a box-to-box, battling midfielder. Keane is close to irreplaceable but if we were able to bring in someone like him I'd be thrilled!

Luke

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28 May 2012 11:48:21
According to twitter hazard has made up his mind. he really is milking this transfer saga. he would want to have a good season where ever he goes with the way he is talking up the transfer

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He is off to Chelsea.

Supasub

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Damm his agent is in london!

cban

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Supa,

He probably he but stating things as fact because it says so in Twitter is just you trying to say 'I told you so' later on. Nobody knows for sure, all just rumours.

GDS

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28 May 2012 11:40:20
This isn't really a rumour but it's again Eden "Tease" Hazard. He has just posted on his personal Twitter that he has "made my mind up" and that is it.
He is obviously an extremely talented player, and everyone on here slating him is just worried about him choosing City or Chelsea and embarrassing us after our public interest.
Kagawa and Hazard should have equal priority, we need more than one world class player.
Hopefully this means Hazard will call a press-conference soon, be interesting to see which teams call a coinciding conference.

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I'm sure Dave Whelan will be on the phone to Sly Spurts to clarify the situation.

Matthew...

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28 May 2012 11:36:23
20 minutes ago...Eden Hazrd on twitter:

"good afternoon guys. i made up my mind. see you later. thanks"

This is where the fun begins.

MPez

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28 May 2012 11:32:48
Haha, ah well if Pogba does go to Juve he may end up playin in Serie B. Conte, Mauri, Cristico and a few others are being investigated for match fixing, if the investigations prove them to be gulity, of course.

Sanshine

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28 May 2012 11:28:06
Good morning all. Hazard has confirmed through his twitter that he has made his mind up. Squeaky bum time

Come on hazard make the right choice

Neil

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28 May 2012 11:27:43
i know you dont like twitter posts on hear but hazard has just announced he his made his mind up and that he will "see you later". bloody want this to happen now, IFWT!
tarrant77

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28 May 2012 11:21:37
good afternoon guys. i made up my mind. see you later. thanks.

tweeted by hazard, maybe he will announce his decision today?

JK92

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Or maybe he is enjoying stringing everyone along and making them look stupid. I think he needs to shut his mouth and his parents should ban him from Twitter.

Sydney!

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I can confidently say, it could either be Chelsea or United.

Though looks like united have 60% chance while chelsea have 40%.

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You must be joking, hes milking this situation, it will ba another week before he announces that hes joining city

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No more bets being taken re Hazard and all latest reports he is on his way to Chelsea...Saha tweeted this and looks like he is flying in this aft.

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He's going to Chelsea.

Supasub

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Apparently hes annoucing today at 5pm uk time#

TRUMORS

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Expect a lot of "he's an overrated mercenary" and "he'll be off to Real Madrid in 2 years anyway" posts when Chelsea announce that they've signed him.

Matthew...

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28 May 2012 10:20:05
This is how I would have the united team for next season.

GK - De gea and linderguard to battle it out for number 1 spot....Kuzcuak and Amos sold...Butland in and loaned straight out

Rb - If people are ok with pushing Jones towards becoming a right back then I think this spot should be for Jones and Rafeal to battle for. If people aren't ok possibly purchase Van Der Wiel

Cb - Hummels in...vidic and hummels first choice partnership... Ferdinand and Evans on bench...Smalling loaned out for experience

Lb - first choice signing would always be Alba but when we fail (dont even make an attempt) to get him we will most likely get Baines...Baines and evra to fight for that spot... Fabio out on loan... Should also look at some young prospects for the future as in jetro williems

Cdm - currently we don't really have a player who plays this role but I think we should get someone to help control the game aswell as support the back line...My choice would be either Strootman, Martinez or m'villa and then also look at youth to learn from them and eventually fight for the spot....Scholes and Carrick also able to drop to this spot for support

Rm/Rw + Lm/Lw - Currently I think that Valencia (only right) young and Nani are playing excellent... I think Valencia and Nani to fight for the right (must give nani more playing time)...Bring Hazard in and have Hazard and young fight for the left with nani and young able to switch sides

Cm/Cam - Fletcher may now become abit of a liability so I'm unaware with that one...I think Anderson should be loaned out (in the premier league still)...look to bring in 1 (or 2 if we raise enough money) Kagawa (close to been done) gotze, eriksen (both look to be staying put another year) Lucas moura (looks expensive) kroos, Ganso....Cleverly to fight for this spot with whomever comes in... Park on bench (make a lot of money from him)...giggs to retire and move to a coaching role like scholes did

St - Owen has gone, berbatov looks to be going, everyone is saying lewandawis (excuse spelling) from Dortmund but I think if anyone we should go for Doumbia from CSKA then we could have 2 fast, goal hungry power houses in him and Rooney and 2 speedy goal grabbers in Hernandez and welbeck...Macheda loaned out to a team that play him to see if he shines if not sell him

4 - 1 - 3 - 1 - 1 formation

It may cost a fair bit due to around 6 high quality signings but if it was done wouldn't you expect city to fear us again

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You lost me when you said loan out Smalling who I feel is our second best CB after Vidic. As well as our second best RB after Rafael.

Shappy

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I dont really agree with too much you put there mate sorry, Dont think Amos should go and leave us with two keepers.

Dont think we will be in for alba so Baines seems likely and why look at a young prospect for LB when fabio will be there.

CB wouldn't mind hummels but think we would already have gone for him and why loan out Smalling? he has been first team/ rotation for a while now and is learning with us.

wouldn't mind m'vila, agree with you on that, Hazard doesn't want to play on the wing apparently and no point in loaning out anderson and also you must be a fifa fan for even mentioning Doumbia.

Finally wrong formation.

1redarmy

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A few new players here so well thought up. Couple of points which make this look a bit silly at times though.

De Gea - I don't think there is any battle here, he is number 1, Lindegaard will be number 2, you do not pay £19 million for a number 2!

Jones - It doesn't matter what 'people' think, we don't pick the team, you make it sound like if the fans want him at right back that's where he will play!

Fletcher - Liability? The lad has a bad illness, liability is a bit harsh.

Anderson - We will not be loaning him out to a Premier League team, where has that idea come from?

Giggs - Definitely staying for another season as bad as this may be. He will not be retiring as you suggest.

CM/AM - I am unsure what you are saying here, all the players you name you seem to suggest we will not get but then suggest we should get them, very confusing.

Macheda - There is a reason the team he was loaned to did not play him, if he was United quality don't you think he would have played for QPR?

Maybe a summary would have helped as I am confused who you are suggesting we buy and sell.

GDS

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Theres a lot of loans, particularly on very good squad players. i would never loan smalling out, he will be first choice cb next season. theres no need in hummels as smalling will be better. rio will retire soon leaving us with vidic, smalling, evans, jones and michael keane. which is a very good unit.
right back will eventually be took by rapheal and hopefully fabio at leftback. next year we will probably have to endure evra, if not a cheap option in clyne or inzzaguire to provide competion. baines is to dear for what your getting, he is a very poor irwin, at best.
midfield we lack seriously, fletcher will be a big positive, but it is like you said he could never get back to full fitness. i would defanitely not loan anderson out, it would be pointless. we should look more to getting rid of the likes of park and giggs. scholes will retire the season after and carrick probably has two years left. we should concentrate on loaning out petrucci and bringing him up. i would much prefer a defensive midfielder, as carrick is not defensive, hes more of a recycler of the ball. picks it up and gets the game moving again. i can cope with flecther and carrick together, but we really need a box-to box mid, pogba, strootman or take a gamble and try out ryan tunnicliffe.
we definately need kagawa and if we where only to get him i would be very happy considering the position he plays. I wouldn't hinch my bets on hazard, if he came great, if he didn't so be it.
as for a striker i wouldn't go mad, personally i would love to see will keane thrown in the deep end. i believe he is special, a cross between owen and sheringham. if we where to go with a rotational striker probably demba ba, for the price and the type of player he is you would other a new dimension and would provide competition to welbeck.
my opinion on the team next year would be:

______De Gea_____
Raph__Vida__Smalls__Evra
____Carrick__Fletch/Clev__
Valencia___Kagawa____Young
________Rooney__________

Or if we want more interchange:
_______De Gea_____
Raph__Vida__Small__Evra
___Carrick____Scholes__
________Cleverly_______
____Rooney_____Kagawa
_______BA/Welbeck_____

I cant see nani there next year, although i would never sell him.

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Lost me when i saw the words nani is playing excellent
johndenton

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You made no sense this post is utter nonsense why would we loan out smalling and anderson and have 2 gks with no cover smallign is and will be the main stay for the next 10 years imo

Mush

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Smalling has only played so many games this season due to vidic been out so when vidic is back he won't be getting as much game time and won't be progressing as much, also yes he has looked good but in some matches I.e the city game he looked like he needed more experience which he could get by going out on loan and playing week after week first team.

Also what is wrong with doumbia, his international record isn't too great granted but he is a proven goal scorer at club level with bags of pace, just watch him

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I agree with Shappy..... stopped reading as soon as you said loan smalling out for experience....

he will partner vidic when both are fit.

Oxred

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Well i think that if i was to tweak your ideas slightly and have the team

___________DDG
Small/Raf__Vid+Hum__Evra
__________M'Villa
Val_____Kagawa______Haz
__________Roon
__________Welb

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28 May 2012 09:26:25
Guys, Hazard will confirm soon it is Man U he is coming to. It is no coincidence that of the 18 players linked with us on the website, his photo is there for all to see.

ManUmicK

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To be honest would'nt care if he did'nt come sounds like a bit of a prima, heard he was going to let people know where he was going after last lille game but did'nt now its another game 'he will let people know.

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His photo is there because he is the biggest/ most exciting name we are linked with.

1redarmy

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Agents can do anything they want with a player, they become their puppets (wayne rooney comes to mind).

Just wait and see.

1redarmy

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Well that's confirmed then , his picture is on the website!
I'm going out right now to get Hazard on the back of my new shirt.
Why are the bookies still taking bets? dont they know his picture is on the website?

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Apparently he's tweete that he's dediced his move.
Saha thentweeted hope its spurs or man utd.
saha then tweets again saying, it looks to be chelsea.

hes now 1/6 to sign for chelsea and 5/1 to sign for us.

Hope theeres nothing to this.

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He's off to Chelsea.

Supasub

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28 May 2012 08:24:57
my dream team. dea gea jones,evens,vidic, evra anderson, scholes velancia, kagawa,hazard rooney what a team!"""
dear unnamed sir
ngiak is absolutely sure why you omitted your name
this has to be a joke to invoke response...
evans? (sorry was that evens?)
are we talking about sunday soccer?
evra, scholes and vidic?
we becoming a liverpool and looking at the past again?
anderson?
5 games a season?
sigh... and the rest,... never heard of them... or did ngiak get the spelling wrong all this while?
gan

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I appreciate your sentiment ngiwak with the message, but Vidic is not in the past, he is very much one of our best players!

GDS

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Ngiwak, Evra, Scholes and Vidic will all be in United shirts next season and will all play key parts. How does that make them the past?

1redarmy

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Am I the only person, since the close of season, who remembers that Evan's had a fantastic year. It seems like a look through the archives is needed badly, because everyone was praising him before the thought of getting a foreign import in tickled everyones bo11ocks. Anderson was playing well at the start of the season, and although I'm well aware that Brazilians tend to peak at about the age of 14 (prior to them lumping on fat which already seems to have happened) it might be worth letting him play to recoup a bit of value if he can't make it. I remember Steve Gerrard was a massive sick note until about Anderson's age.

And stop correcting spelling all the time, it's frustrating. It's casual - thats the beauty of this site. If the Ed's went all 'Grammar Nazi' on here, you wouldn't get anything published Gan

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28 May 2012 08:16:17
Completely agree with you RamoN 19, Eriksen is a great player and will only improve, I would prefer Hazard in terms of quality but Eriksen seems to have a good head on his shoulders....
HERBIE"""
dear mr ramon19 and mr herbie
ngiak happened to watch many a dutch games this season
there are a host of players who are way better than eriksen... ngiak simply does not understand where he got his media publicist from... that person is a genius (must be a penguin!)
vertonghen and de jong are way better... young mature and consistant
they bring much more to the team
watch out for elicilio, anita and van rhijn
certainly more useful for us
but ngiak would certainly prefer vertonghen and de jong
gan

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Ngiak

you talk utter rubbish

obviously your not watching dutch football very well

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O and of the 3 to 'watch out' for only Anita is half decent in the list.

thanks for making me laugjh this morning with your nonsense, are you blair mayne in disguise?

Eriksen IS class, if you cannot see it, your a mug.

ms85 (both posts)

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28 May 2012 08:09:15
Should have know it would have been you bond mate, definately your sense of humour. Lol.

And no G.A.G.U.S i'm not a bird or at least not yet according to bond. Lol.

Shappy {Ed007's Note - The clothes confused me.....You must be a Rocky Horror Show fan then I take it.}"""
dear mr shappy and mr james bond
ngiak takes offence at these animal jibes
technically penguins are NOT birds
yet he simply has to defend his long removed ancestoral cousins
gan

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Considering the order Sphenisciforme is nested WITHIN the Aves, I'd say penguins are most definitely birds...

I'm Spartacus!

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28 May 2012 08:04:59
Evra was shocking for France today all fault for both goal's he is a shambles"""
dear unnamed sir
ngiak wonders if you have been watching him the last 3 years
its been that way for 3 seasons yet not only is he a regular, he is also part time captain
ngiak is totally astounded
the powers that be in manchester united and france must either be blind, or he has "other" qualities that we do not know about
gan

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28 May 2012 01:09:52
Hazard needs to make his decision, because it's doing my 'Eden'.

MPez

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That was a bad and you should feel bad!

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27 May 2012 23:57:15
I recall saying Kagawa would be great for United but I remember some said to me that he has an injury and no where good as Gotze. He only played half a season and played brilliantly. I think United will work very hard and probably willing to spend a bit because we do need him.

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The injury was last season... I think he broke his foot or leg something like that

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