Manchester United Banter Archive April 02 2012

02 Apr 2012 23:26:51
We may need another striker, but Hernandez and Welbeck need (and have time) to develop their games. Ole was similar to hernandez when he arrived then he became a more rounded player as he got older.
Still love Rafael and even Evra looked a little more measured today.
But on a different note regarding the twins (if Fabio in particular can remain injury free) were they playing for any other club in Europe, then there would be rumours posted on this page saying they'd be a perfect fit for our club.
Sometimes we don't realise what we have.

Supasub

02 Apr 2012 23:05:28
I think he has been left out tactically. He hasn't played enough
games to be relied on at this stage of the season. If we had CL
games we would see more of him, but I think he will be saved for
next season.
Sydney!

not sure syd but ill learn something if your right. never occured to me your scenario tbh,
thought he was getting up to speed with resreves and training. I really think he could have made an impact. today was nervy and a new option night just be the spark we need. but its reasonable your sense.

..constantine..

02 Apr 2012 22:42:40
That was a vital win, not just to take us 5 points clear but psychologically as well. Mancini said he felt it would be a draw and that showed him to be wrong, it is a blow to City but must certainly not the end game. We absolutely must not blow it on Sunday. Win on Sunday and see what happens, if City win then move on but the pressure is really on them if we win.

In the first half we opted to have a stable footing with three central and I think took a long term view that we would tire them out and wear them down eventually. Our outlet was Valencia who had an outstanding game. De Gea has now shut those up who criticised and Rio had a good game. Credit where it due Evans continues to be consistent.

Being objective we were not very creative and relied on Valencia, the other point was that Hernandez and Welbeck showed their inadequacies quite clearly.

Great result , the first one but not the definitive one. Still 21 points to play for so must not get carried away.

Red Man

02 Apr 2012 22:34:44
" It was 50/50 " Tony V for the number 7 shirt!

JWalk

02 Apr 2012 22:24:14
If you look at our last seven fixtures the only traveling we have to do is Sunderland. Our away fixtures was Blackburn tonight, Wigan, City & Sunderland. So we have no need to worry about long traveling.

Sydney!

02 Apr 2012 22:02:27
That is a massive result. Part one complete, win the next and put tonnes of pressure onto Citeh prior to their match away to Arsenal.

Young gets some stick on here, class finish from him from an in behind position. Toni V's strike was brilliant.

Come on the reds!

DodgyBanter

02 Apr 2012 22:02:16
Thought we played well, really hard game. Blackburn gave it their all. Not sure we set up right to start with but got there in the end.
Thought we were great at full back tonight, Rafa and Pat had excellent games.
Only real concern for me again was Hernandez, very poor tonight.
Oh well bring on QPR and let's hope Arsenal can do us a favour, then we really will be looking great.

Red Daz.

02 Apr 2012 22:00:27
Tony V for Number 7.

G.A.G.U.S

02 Apr 2012 21:57:01
Jesus, what a goal from Valencia! He's becoming more and more complete. Then teeing up Ashley Young, who's been great recently. All in all not a bad performance, but a strange line up.

Percy

02 Apr 2012 21:46:56
Valencia deserves to have that no7 shirt. Next season it has to be his.

Robbo

02 Apr 2012 21:43:34
bejeez what nerves

me loves ya valencia

..constantine.. {Ed004's Note - And Young :D}

02 Apr 2012 21:40:43
FINALLY!!

02 Apr 2012 20:53:06
I think Cleverley is going to be started again next season. After his
disastrous season which was meant to be his bedding in season, I
think he will go on the preseason tour and start again next season.
Sydney!


syd pretty positive if clev was fully fit he would be involved. was in tune with his team mates enough i think hed slot in. maybe a reacurrence? or the physicality of the game?

I think he would be an exellent addition if we can capture preseason and the start. It could the perfect boost to end the season in style.

my guess is reacurrence or some slight injury hopefully.

..constantine..

02 Apr 2012 19:56:05
Well I must say, not a bad line up, glad not to see Giggs CM, but I'd have played Rooney up front and Young on the left and sacrificed Hernandez

02 Apr 2012 19:21:16
United:
De Gea; Rafael, Evans, Ferdinand, Evra; Jones, Scholes, Carrick; Valencia, Hernandez, Rooney

Subs: Amos, Smalling, Giggs, Park, Pogba, Young, Welbeck

Glad to see pogba back on the bench!
Kulio :)

02 Apr 2012 19:18:38
Well at least the manager has listened to me and played Jones in midfield with Carrick and Scholes. I am not sure about Hernandez on the wing though.

Sydney!

02 Apr 2012 19:07:20
following the rumours doing the rounds do poeple think this team would win us the league and possibly europe?

De Gea
Rafael Smalling Vidic Cissokho
Strootman Martinez
Valencia Hazard Nani
Rooney

with a bench of:

Lindegaard Jones Evans Ferdinand Fabio Cleverly Anderson Young Pogba Hernandez Welbeck (Fletcher!) + youth

letting following go:

Evra Berbatov Carrick Owen Park

02 Apr 2012 18:36:34
ronaldo "I want to continue at Real Madrid. I don't want to go anywhere else," he told Portuguese radio station TVI. "I want to spend my time here. The relationship with Mourinho is perfect. I knew we were going to get along before I met him as a coach.
"His principles are the same as mine and when we started working together I realised he was the best for the job. It gives me tremendous pleasure to work with the best. He has succeeded in different leagues and with different players as well"

when mourinho moves i wonder if his first signing will be ronaldo
jred

02 Apr 2012 18:16:31
where can i watch tonights game online help please {Ed002's Note - myp2p.pe}

02 Apr 2012 17:39:16
its really sad,
my toy shop friend has recalled all Andy Carrol action figures,
he said, it goes down to pieces within the box , the item crumbles under its price tag, both the legs are faulty and far more superior substitutes are available at cheaper prices
DJ

02 Apr 2012 16:25:03
GK-Pepe Reina
RB-Glen Johnson
CD-Martin Skrtel
CD-Daniel Agger
LB-Leighton Baines
AMR-Arjen Robben
DMC-Javi Martinez
CM-Steven Gerrard
AML-Steven Jovetic
FC-Ezquiel Levezzi
SC-Klass Jan Huntelaar

Bench
GK-Alexander Doni
D-Seb Coates
D-Jose Enrique
M-Lucas Lieva
M-Stewart Downing
M-Jefferson Farfan
F-Lisandro Lopez


Just seen this on the liverpool page WTF they should stop playing fifa..

02 Apr 2012 15:34:07
Liverpool to win the league in 2014

or at least get to the playoff final...

which will bounce them right back up to the premier league with the big clubs.

phil

02 Apr 2012 15:01:13
I still think that bale and modric would complete our team( along with a LB)

Would any of u spend 45m and nani to get bale n modric?

Imagine this
4-2-31
DE GEA
RAFAEL SMALLING VIDIC EVRA
MODRIC SCHOLES
VALENCIA ROONEY BALE
HERNADEZ

Bale and Valencia bombing down the wings with hernandez's great heading and finishing? yes please!


TRUMORS

02 Apr 2012 13:52:51
I went to the barber and asked for a Liverpool FC haircut. Mess at the back,
nothing on the sides and nothing
up front. Charged me £130m.
I couldnt resist...lol

Millz

02 Apr 2012 13:38:43
United's squad, incidentally for the Dallas Cup, is, as per the competition's official website:

Sam Johnstone, Joe Coll; Charni Ekangamene, Michele Fornasier, Ezekiel Fryers, Michael Keane, Alberto Massacci, Frederic Veseli; Larnell Cole, Luke Giverin, Luke Hendrie, Jesse Lingard, Tom Thorpe, Ryan Tunnicliffe; Will Keane.

Does this mean that Pogba and Petrucci are both training with the 1st team ?

Would be great to see Pogba again tonight at some point & Petrucci before the end of the season.

Oxred

02 Apr 2012 13:29:11
"This clubs strength lies in it's title winning mentality, something
the oil sheiks money cannot buy" sums it all up Constantine. By
the way , you're not the Brother Constantine who used to beat the
holy crap out of us at catholic Grammer school are you? !!!!!
Albert

lol Albert no

although I known a few types in my boarding school so comiserations bud

wouldnt hurt a fly unless you started and even then I'd talk you out of it or make you laugh and just give up.

..not the infamous brother constantine..

02 Apr 2012 13:17:37
reply to - lolx10000 , i bet you wish you had de gea now.
well yes mate i do , he would be a good back-up to pepe as a number 2, as i see he has improved a little lately.
ps , what is all this about add-ons for phil jones , i think he will cost you about 30 million , a bit much for a player finding his level as a sub , or untilty man lol..................lfc

02 Apr 2012 12:28:40
Shappy and Red Man are both correct, we need one top player to give us momentum and something to be excited about. We also need a couple little gems. I wouldn't mind if we signed cheaper gems like Clyne, Fischer, Strootman & Izaguirre if we went out and signed someone like Hazard. Hazard will get 20+ goals in a season so I think we wouldn't need a top striker if we got him.

Sydney!

02 Apr 2012 11:53:02
Redman and shappy

I kinda agree with both of you.

we have done well out of low cost signings but then rooney rio carrick have equally served well at a higher cost.

but im not of the opinion there is a certain transfer strategy. I think we pay what we need to for the certain player we are after or need rather than searching necessarily on a budget.

rio rooney and carrick all wanted to come to ot
and we paid what we had too. no flinching with cost.

players like villa, sanchez benzema have been bid on but didnt want to come but the money was there.

one i think there isnt the british talent pool more likely to choose ot thats worth paying record breaking money on.

two that leaves foreign talent, we have ac milan inter juventus real barce, bayern, city, chelsea to compete with. each offering a different style of life to choose from.

some players maybe motivated by money or have a young family they wish not to move or heart set on dream move that isnt us, or the transfer fee or wage demands are crazily high or a player has shown wrong attitude after being sounded out. and then two expensive gone not quite right in berb and veron fifty to sixty mil.thats a lot of money to waste. and then there is the tax system, hell it could even be the eurovision effect damn sure we dont get nil points for the quality of the songs. who knows. I certainly havent listed all the factors.

but i personally think if the right player comes along that fits well, and wants to come then the price will be paid.

and we certainly cant set precedent in paying top top whack where every time a top quality player is available as clubs will just squeeze us. we have to have a price to say no too. in the current climate of neuvou rich clubs we have to be patient and continue picking up gems like herandeZ.

i think a marquee signing would be good for fan morale but unless the player wants us and we them then i dont see it.

am i wrong?

and looking at the impact of cabaye and tiote in their first season it isnt agains all possibilities that we could find the right players at a reasonable price to make an instant improvement. think of the impact cleverly made. would anyone say he is a 40 mil player? but the football was fast and inventive.

there are plenty of players being scouted who do have the ability to step up who dont cost the earth who may not be as prominant in the media becuase of the team or the standard of player around them and some names really are overrated.

I know I dont make conclusive sense. for me its just reasons to say it isnt staightforward and isnt necessarily about lack of or unwillingness to spend money.

just a thought.

..constantine..

02 Apr 2012 11:22:25
Maybe I'm a bit highly strung today or had too much coffee, but too me the LFC page seem's less censored.

Supasub {Ed002's Note - Obviously I cut most of your complaining post. You need to stop bleating. If something got through that shouldn't then suck it up and move on. I really don't have the time to deal with your paranoia today so let me know if you are going to keep it up and I can ban you until I have more time to deal with it.}

02 Apr 2012 10:30:29
Has anyone seen Mancini's attempts at mind games? "8 points and its over"

It's hardly a mind game but an incentive, he's basically just bent over.

Andy

(A very happy red fan)

Ps: All this talk of an average declining Manchester United team is utter rubbish, yes there is flaws but I think its great!

02 Apr 2012 10:09:20
Every day we read a new name being linked to us. Iv not heard this anywhere just my opinion I think we should look at this guy premier league experience young fast and has s good shot on him. Looks like a really good player now and has also played champions league football. What would people think about Kevin Prince Boateng.


MUFC 88

02 Apr 2012 08:27:26
by your reply ed decided to look harder. there is a great big submit button sitting on its own up top with arrows pointing at it and a neon sign. at least you got me there one way or another.

for what its worth if this makes sense its a big white area which the box only shows itself if you happen to click on it. no outline to the box so to speak.

ta anyway ed and gmorn to you. {Ed002's Note - Thanks. And a good morning to you.}

02 Apr 2012 08:00:58
what are the bets on city sacking mancini and getting mourinho lol... he might even get them up to 3rd place!

02 Apr 2012 05:38:22
eds is it possible to say enter a search word like jovetic and get all archived posts relating? if there is I can't find it. poss cause i'm on mobile? would be a useful function maybe taking away the need for the eds to repeat things. thinking of you ed2! live long and stress free. {Ed002's Note - Have you tried the search function? Or perhaps it does not work on the mobile? I will leave a note for the technical guru.}

02 Apr 2012 00:34:22
{Ed022's note - brand new player profile on Neven Subotic of Borussia Dortmund. www.player-profiles.co.uk - thanks all.}