Manchester United Banter Archive August 02 2013

02 Aug 2013 23:17:30
I am supposed to believe people know about cr coming back when they can't even get rios testimonial date correct which to be honest is hardly a secret?

02 Aug 2013 21:48:50
Get in there! Great to see the Utd spirit alive and kicking down in the youth teams!

Some very good play, first time I've seen any of these lads and there are a few promising faces coming through.

Well done lads, Milk Cup 2013 :)

Glad to see our local lads give a good account of themselves too.

StevieK

02 Aug 2013 20:40:37
Fantastic to hear that DDG is very settled in Manchester.

Hope he stays and learns his trade with us for years to come, it'll help him be a far better player playing against the Stokes of this world.

I can see him and Courtois becoming the two best keepers in the world within the next few years!

Great to see him getting confident.

Yes and good to see Davey the save tapping up every Spanish player that becomes available

If only he had the same pulling power as Zizou!

At least our man has some dignity. Zidane was an unreal player but his media player pursuits are disgraceful.
DHK

Cortois is allready one if not the best keeper in some peoples eyes. 860 minutes last season without concedng a goal

Courtois's clean sheet record was helped by having falcao up front. Most opposition teams were too busy trying to negate him to mount a serious attack, albeit I do agree he is an awesome gk and defo one of the best in the world already.

02 Aug 2013 20:23:45
United in the Milk Cup final. Red Button right now for anyone interested.

Just watching it now. And already Peirera (no idea how to spell it. Apologies) not seen him that much before but the boy has talent can't see it being long before he makes his 1st team bow!

Utd Dan

02 Aug 2013 21:00:11
Which channel please?

Expect to hear a lot about Perreira next season. He will burst onto the scene much like Januzaj has. I can see why MU are going for quality now as the midfielders we have for the future are pretty up there. Just hope Juventus don't pinch them all ;)

Sydney!

Yes deffinatley and thanks for the spelling Syd I was sat trying to sound it out like an infant!
Its tv 1 then press red button.

Utd Dan

Pereirra is absolute class, hope he makes it at utd, lol syd I agree hppe jube stays away from the young talent we have. did u hear pogba wanting to emulate zidane and deschamps not sure he'll be as good as zidane. zifane was one of a kind.

singh

We allowed Juvuentus to pinch Pogba, should never have happened.

Flint

We should never let Pogba's contract get to that point.

Flint

02 Aug 2013 19:57:38
Tax for Ronaldo is really not an issue.
Firstly the 50% tax is only payable on paye. A good accountant will be able to minimise that, they are all probably working as contractors not employees so it will never amount to anything like 50%. Make large contributions to a self invested pension and hey presto tax becomes minimal

Amazing! We live in a country where thousands of public sector workers are having to work longer for frozen pay and attacks on their pensions because of bankers and people avoiding paying tax yet you seem to think it is perfectly ok for some multi millionaire to avoid paying tax just because he kicks a football about. Let me ask you how do you think we pay for hospitals and schools. The NHS is crumbling but let's not tax those who can afford it.

Kloot, he didn't say it was "perfectly OK", in fact he didn't give an opinion on it either way.

what he says is correct; the more money you have, the better your accountant. I'm sure you would avoid (not evade) paying tax if you could, just as I would.

if you don't like it you need to be directing your ire at the government because they're the only ones who can do anything about it. however, I suspect you'll probably blame the Glazers for Britain's tax laws ;)

now, back to the more important business of who's going to be playing where next season.

02 Aug 2013 19:21:00
A question for some of the more experienced posters on here i, e Sydney!, Kloot, Shappy, Moon etc.

This Ronaldo talk is going to snowball horribly over the next week or two, now I for one cannot see it myself financially I cannot see us going there. Now again I imagine the club will not mind the rumours escalating as it will probably take the heat off the fact that we have not strengthened in the areas required and it may make it easier to do a bit of business under the rumour of all rumours.

I would be interested in your opinions guys.

From a financial point of view it makes sense. We have the money, we need the big signing.

From a commercial point of view, Ronaldo is a Nike athlete and yet he plays for an adidas club. there's also the rumour about chevy and stuff.
It all cimes down to what Ronaldo wants. Madrid don't want to sell, but if he doesn't renew his worth will go down dramatically and even real wouldn't let a 100 million asset go for free. If he wants to cime back, we will get him.

Mick

02 Aug 2013 19:45:44
I think the club would consider and explore the possibility of bringing Ronaldo back to Manchester United. Especially with Sir Alex retiring it would be a real statement of intent.

There is no reason why the club couldn't afford to bring him back to the club, financially speaking the club is in a health position. If Rooney was to be sold then the fee and his wages would go a significant way towards paying for Ronaldo.

So the club would have good reason to try and sign Ronaldo and they could financially afford it.

Would Ronaldo want to come home? For any transfer to happen this will be key. There will be clubs such as City or PSG who will be willing to pay him more than we would, so for any deal to take place Ronaldo would have to choose us over wages.

But in saying all this I think it would be prudent not to get your hopes up about signing Ronaldo. Even with things in our favour it will be a very hard transfer to pull off.

So let's just sit back and see what happens, rather than discuss it to death like we did with a certain dutch midfielder.

We need to improve the squad and Ronaldo would certainly do that, but to say we need a big signing to show intent is not the way forward.
Shrewd yes, top quality and players who are joining for the love of the club definately, Dortmund are great example of this policy and prove what can be done the only difference being we are not a selling club and have a major pull with our history etc.
Baines, Fabregas and Ronnie now were talking.
Dylan

No matter what some of the doom and gloom merchants say on here, in my eyes if Ronaldo was available we would be straight in there. He would probably cost around the £60-70m mark due to going into his last 2 years of contract which is totally doable. His wage demands to Real are huge if reports are correct, but I am near enough certain he wouldn't demand the same from us, as I think it is him trying to force his way out by asking for ridiculous wages. He already stated at the beginning of the season when he said he wasnt happy, that it wasnt financial and that in time people would see that, which could be him saying he wants to come back but won't be asking for a huge wage rise to do so.

If he comes back, I have no doubt that GM Motors will make him a huge financial offer, and we may see quite a few extra million offered by Nike for our next kit deal if he is in the squad, as it is fantastic for them also.

I said months ago that I thought it would happen this summer, but got shot down from all angles. I haven't changed my mind on this to be honest, I think it will happen. Obviously, I could be totally wrong and he may stay but I for one hope not.

A summer of Ronaldo £65m, Fabregas £35m and someone like Fellaini £23m coming in with Rooney £35m, Nani £10m, Anderson £8m leaving would be amazing. I could live with Evra and Buttner for 1 more season. It would be a big outlay, but this is no ordinary summer and we would be signing one of the 2 biggest stars in world football so its not beyond the realms of possibility, no matter what some try and make you believe on here.

Brendan81 {Ed004's Note - I really do not think a midfield 2 of Carrick and a fellaini are good enough}

Edgar Davids?

Fellaini is just an example of a CM ed and he is available at a reasonable ish price. Who else is 'available' without paying over the top prices for them?

Brendan81 {Ed004's Note - Bender, Modric, Kondogbia, De Rossi, Cabaye and there are other players we could try to negotiate for and would cost a bit more like Gundogan, Witsel}

After reading all of your comments I see that the financial argument is reasonably invalid. I am still not sure about sponsors bunging in for a deal the very idea of it seems odd to me, but I do not pretend to know how these things work I am merely stating an opinion.

Another question gents I am beffuddled by our transfer activity this season and all speculation and rumour aside I do not have the foggiest who we will sign if anyone at all.

So realistically come Sept 2nd who do expect to have signed? I personally think (and as I have said I am clueless)Fabregas, baines and maybe a striker who we have never heard of, I cannot see us strengthening the wings or central defence at least not this window.

I think Fellaini is exactly what United need

Kondogbia would be my choice ed, even at 20. The others are either not available/over priced (Bender, Gundogan, Modric), not quite good enough (Cabaye) or a bit old and still costing quite expensive (DeRossi).

Ronaldo, Fabregas and Kondogbia, that would be perfect if you can sort it Mr Moyes.

Brendan81 {Ed004's Note - He would be ideal}

Dean mate, the problem with this transfer window is everything got put on hold when David Moyes took over.

Sir Alex had his plans and his ideas, and as such the club had worked on his targets.

When David Moyes took over he decided he needed to access what he had and work out how he wanted the team to play. Only when he's done that can he see what the team is missing and start to make moves for those players suitable.

Now in the past we have scouted player normally for two years or more before jumping in and buying them. Obviously this time that isn't possible. Unless you have a bottomless pit of cash which always makes problems go away then transfers are hard drawn out processes. And unfortunately for us we are starting a couple of months behind because of the change of management.

As such it will be very hard to judge who will be one of Moyes targets.

I think we will just have to sit back be patient and see.

Just a few things to think about. Could the money spent on Ronaldo's be better spent strengthening the midfield with 2 or 3 world class players. Secondly
Ronaldo's likes to be the star of the show who takes all the free kicks pens etc. have we all forgotten about a certain Dutchman we have who is rather good and will expect service from the wing. Remember ruud's reaction to Ronny not good. After seeing some of your reaction to the possibility of getting him back and the fact that some of you are creaming your pants about him it obviously makes commercial sense. I can imagine some of you now Queing to get his name on your replica shirt.

KLOOT it's ok, I'll buy you your Ronaldo 7 shirt, I know you like to pretend you don't want one but we all know different ;-)

Brendan81

Kloot wants one with 'glazer' on the back

02 Aug 2013 18:43:27
Just a quick question to the eds,
1. Has Nani signed a new contract?
2. Is there any progression on Garay, or interest from other clubs in him that might be a worry to us?

RedKen

02 Aug 2013 18:19:33
I know I've Made this point before but it seems like a good time to make it again. Rumour has it Ronaldo won't sign a new contract because he wants a mega pay increase. My question is, what figure is 'enough'? Let's assume he gets £150K a week, that's £7. 8M a year, every year. There will also be endorsements and image rights as well. That seems like an awful lot of money to me. So why isn't it enough, why do players (not just Ronaldo) want more? We never heard a peep from Neville, Scholes, Giggs about money yet so many players treat it as their God. It frustrates me so much. Falcao has gone to Monaco, great place to live but not a big club - bet he's paid well though. I'm sure I'll get replies saying market forces and going rate but too many players have lost all grip on reality, assuming they had any before. Finally, back to Ronnie. He may want to leave Madrid but I'm a long way from convinced that he wil be coming to us if he does. {Ed004's Note - Did you take into account tax?}

Even at 50% tax, he'll still be clearing £4M-£5M every year.

Ronaldo wants £17.4m (net) each season. That's £334k a week after tax. So £670k a week RM must fork out to keep him.

Sydney!

Unfortunately, it is the world we live in. Footballers have seen their salaries rocket in the past decade, and now it is reaching ridiculous proportions. But as long as the clubs are prepared to go along with this, then it will not change.
I don't mind the top professionals in the game earning a lot of money, but you see so many average footballers earning ridiculous wages. £30-£40k a week. It is madness.
But if united want to compete, then what alternative have we got? We have to pay to get the best.
Nomidfield

I agree if the clubs pay it why wouldn't you want to earn as much as you can. let's face it players like scholes love united as they are fans that's why they are so loyal. I would have loved to play for united but was nowhere near that level so you go where the money is for you/family. let's face it clubs pay more to players to be the best or succesfull and hopefully make more money so its not your interests their thinking about

02 Aug 2013 17:05:58
Can't believe we haven't signed a central midfielder for the past 11 transfer windows

Kagawa and Nick Powell are both CM/AM players. That said, a proper DM/CM player of quality is sorely needed.

SLred

Hargreaves in 07, but I don't blame you for not counting him.

Kagawa is a cam that plays just behind striker and Powell played as a stoker/cf for crew

Not long till the season starts we are in need of a cm otherwise we ain't winning anything

I think that is about right. Spurs have an outside chance; but playing in the Europa might hurt them.

I can actually see Liverpool mounting a challenge this season, on account of the fact they are not in Europe. Their form towards the end of last season was very good; and IMO they definitely will be stronger and more consistent this season.

Not sure about Arsenal. If they get the cannibal from Liverpool, they could be a big threat. That said, they are weak defensively, which could offset their attacking prowess.

I think the team of the season could well be Villia (I can see them finishing 6th or 7th this season) They have kept hold of their key players, and have added some good players to their squad. Plus their younger players will have an extra season under their belt. The lad Westwood is the real deal. He could defintely be a future United player in the making. Hell, he would probably improve us now.

SLred

We don't need a CM because Moyes tactics is to hoof the ball out of defence

02 Aug 2013 16:23:43
I see stimmo has lashed me out of it for saying that outside of uk moyes is a nobody. Fair enough stimmo barca have appointed an unknown manager from Argentina. Difference is simmo barca sign who they want when they want we are struggling to sign anybody. Barca have a way better squad than us. My question to simmo is this the united name dosnt mean as much as it used to, that's obvious so appointing a nobody further declines our chances of signing top world stars who don't care for club history etc. look at all players who went to Monaco.

I'm from outside the UK and I always wanted United to go for Moyes when Sir. Alex retired. The person best equipped to follow the traditions of the club among the candidates was David Moyes.
Just have some patience, Moyes knows the midfield needs strengthening, and I trust him to do bring someone that will help us win the league and/or the champions league.

First of all are you talking to me (Simmo) or somebody else called (Stimmo) who I've never heard of?

Simmo (not Stimmo)

Lol, Stimmo, love it.

Major, if you think the name Manchester United is still not a draw then you must have banged you head. However, whether we like it or not there are plenty of teams out there with way more money than we have and not everyone's motivation is romance or medals.

As we all know, Moyes got the job for one reason only, he was the best candidate to preserve the Ferguson legacy.

Didn't we all go through this before when Sven left the England job and the FA appointed Steve McClaren because they wanted some continuity.

That turned out to be one big cock up.

Let's hope the Moyes appointment doesn't turn out the same

AJH:-
didn't RVP join us to win medals?

Or was it he prefered the NW of England over London

02 Aug 2013 15:50:40
Not rumours or banter but I really don't want to see Hernandez leave United, either as a sale or a makeweight for Ronaldo.
He has sat on the bench for two seasons now & never once complained & when he is given a chance to show what he can do he usually scores then gets dropped back to the bench for the next game just like Solskjaer used to do. Overall a model professional who others at the club could learn from.

Chicarito is excellent coming off the bench and invariably scores as defences are tiring mentally and physically but anytime he starts a game he is usually ineffective and he is really poor in holding up the ball and bringing others into play as his first touch is poor and his passing slack. He is one of the best in the business at getting on the end of crosses and instinctively scoring headers and volleys and one touch finishes but he can miss a high proportion of chances when he has time to decide what to do. A great impact sub but not a starter in my opinion.

02 Aug 2013 14:49:13
not really a rumour but red what schmeichel has said about ibrahimovic being able to replicate what cantona did at united just wondering what you boys would think to the addition of zlatan? I never used to be a fan but the guy has natural ability!

thegodfather

02 Aug 2013 16:05:17
I dunno wot people see in that guy. If he was as good as everyone says he would have not of had like 6 clubs already. Lazy, overrated and thinks he's way better than he is. Hope he's never near this club.


Cork city red!

We have Rvp for that same reason.

Ibrahimovic might have a more Cantonesque attitude and certain cockyness about him, but Rvp offers a lot of class and professionalism

He's is as good as everyone says becasue he's played at just about every top club in Europe for a combined transfer fee of around 171 million pounds.
It's not his ability that's in doubt it's his attitude in general.
He's stepped on so many peoples toes and pis*ed so many people off everywhere he's been they just move him onto the next club.
He's nowhere near the standard of your Ronaldo's and Messi's etc but still a very talented player.

Simmo

Wow how stupid does Cork city red sound. Look at what teams win when he joins you bafoon . People are right about his ability not being in question just his attitude. I must loved the way he completely bullied John Terry battered him all over.

Great player just can't stand the bloke he radiates t**t.

I think he is a peach of a player. I belong to the school of thought that think, c**ntishness can be forgiven if you are brilliant at what you do. I will probably not want him at United, but saying he is not a good player is just b*******. He is someone who revels in the "main man" role and can galvanise people around him. But then again which Zlatan you bump in to is as good as anyones guess. But he is a supremely talented individual.

Deeps.

P. S - Just ask our rival fans what they think about "The King". He without any competition is my favourite United player ever.

"Dunno what people see in that guy" Really? Really? His talent is not in question but his attitude is. You can't doubt his talent when you consider the fact that he on his own entirely annihilated the england team and practically carries his country.

K.

02 Aug 2013 13:05:23
does someone know something I dont? marshisio, fabregas? who is it were in for? 2 mids or 1? what about zouma for defence? good call?

I think we will end up with Modric.

REDFAITH

02 Aug 2013 12:17:29
sorry guys haven't been feeling ok lately so haven't answer'ed back. btw this season/year we all have to stand together, becauce the team, sir moyes need's our support, thank god saf still his at the club he made man united what they are rigth now so i'm happy that he did not leave. and I think moyes well gel well with the team and our squad is the best in the leauge (maybe in europe), with 1 or 2 top player we will be king's again, united 4 life :) hope u guy's and ed's are having a nice summer. zee

You think we have the best squad in Europe? I think your going to be disappointed this year then mate

I love United to death, but it's madness to say that we have best squad in the League or Europe.

Our players may connect well together, but weren't the best.

The key factor last season was SAF.

We do have the best Squad in world football.

Name me another side that can not name the same starting XI in over 8 years and get the consistent results we get?

our first XI isn't so good, our squad is phenomenal.

The Moon.

Leave zee alone he's our good luck charm and if he says we've got the best squad in Europe then we have! :D great to have you back zee

Hb

In those terms, I say FC Porto.

I agree with Zee and Moon I can't think of another SQUAD that is as strong as ours we must have like 10 squad players that would walk into most prem teams (with the exception of the top 3/4) if you look at Barca their starting 11 is awesome but when they lose a key player to injury or suspension they look a completely different side. I personally don't think we are far from having the best squad I can remember and I have been watching United for 30 years.

Hi guys, glad to know someone agrees:) zee

Bayern, City and Barcelona all have stronger squads for starters (Martinez, Fabregas, Ballotelli, Kroos, Gustavo, Thiago, Nasri, etc were all out of their starting 11's and would all have walked into OUR team).

redseven

OMG best squad in the league, maybe europe!Are you for real?. Chelsea and City have better squads, hmmm Bayern, Dortmund, Barca, Real, even PSG imo are better squads. United need to buy at least 3 world class players to be close to havin the best squad in Europe.

02 Aug 2013 12:13:13
I know everyone would love for Ronaldo to come back (incluing me). but there is nothing worse in this world than false hope. I suggest all of you not go get your hopes too high. It would be great if he came back but he is still a madrid player and still has 2 years remaining in the contract.

02 Aug 2013 13:13:52
Bilderberg group are worse.

Whistler.

But if he is telling Madrid he won't sign a new contract surely this changes everything in utds favour

Rooney is a United Player with two years left on his contract, same as Ronaldo has at Madrid. Everyone is sure that Rooney is leaving us, so why are we so sure that Ronaldo won't leave Real to come to us?
There is always a chance. I think the way Mourinho is making snide remarks at Ronaldo, shows that maybe he must know something we dont? Maybe he knows CR7 is coming back and he just wants to have a go at him?
Nomidfield

No midfield
You're just praying we blow our entire budget on Ronaldo so you don't have to think of a new name! ;-)

Red Spark

02 Aug 2013 11:40:51
hi guys, eds:) I hope the cr7 roumer is true, don't wanna get my hopes up but I think it was wierd not to have a clue where woodward went when he returned from the preseason tour, I think what the paper is saying about cr7 it's true this time, atleast this time they are telling the truth (fingers crossed guy's). what do u guys think, eds? zee:) {Ed004's Note - I'm hoping it is true}

Fingers crossed ed004 :) zee

02 Aug 2013 10:00:43
Just wondering why no one has moved for James McCarthy yet? He is far too good for the Championship. If we got Fellaini and Ronaldo then I would love a mid season move for McCarthy to freshen things up. I think this may happen actually because Moyes will want to evaluate his midfield options again after 6 months so he can see how the likes of Anderson have performed.

I've heard they're asking for £20m for him. Unfortunately for them he is not good enough for the top clubs (those who could afford to pay that kind of fee).

redseven

Fresh, Fellaini is plausible but the more the silence of fabregas carries on, the more its becoming realistic for us to aign him.

There is a strong chance he may move to us, as of Ronaldo if he came back to united I don't know what ill do, itll be unimaginable for us to see him here again.

There coukd be a chance of us just signing ronalro and fellaini like u mentioned, but I hope we don't get fellaini. Anyways we got couple of important weeks infront of us, hopefully we get our targets and if we get fab and ronaldo wed be in the mix of champions league.

Singh

My understanding is that Ronaldo has been seeking a revised and astronomical salary from Madrid and after tax.

Hence the delays in a new deal.

I don't believe we can offer the money he is seeking.

My bet is either Madrid will match his salary demands or he will see out his contract, possibly wait 1 more year and then head to Monaco for a tax free salary. Monaco will then be playing in the CL

Did Ronaldo get less than 150k at Utd that he is reported to be getting at Madrid?

I would of thought he was up there at Utd in terms of pay? If so maybe those demands are win win situation for him if he gets them, sound! If not he'll force a move back to where his heart is. least if he's going to be miserable might as well get paid!

Anyone agree?

02 Aug 2013 09:54:16
United wasting time chasing impossible targets. or say papers are saying about targets. Most time till now wasted on thiago saga. then aftet febregad saga. and now ronaldo return saga.
I m sure this ronaldo return will pass 2 more weeks. and fans won't utter a word for midfield if fan favourite is linked. and then when most targets are gone, We will face no value in the market or right players were not available stance.
"The squad here already is very good" has already started. But they are trying (??)
When any1 can say any tom, dick, or herry can improve this midfield.

So guys dream on. after febregas now discuss and pull down others on ronaldo saga.

You, like many 'united fans' will be very suprised I think.

If we don't improve the squad then we are standing still. If we are standing still then we are being overtaken.

Our current squad is not good enough, certainly not for CL as has been seen for the past 2 years.

I agree that we have been chasing impossible targets and should have moved on to more plausible ones. 5 weeks in to the transfer window and we have nothing to show for it.

The longer it stays like this then the more anxious the club becomes.

I agree with you no name, but patience is what we need. Rather than keeping high hopes for 1st class players to join us, I'd enjoy watching our young lads getting 1st team games! They will shine soon enough!
RumourNo. 1

We haven't sold or bought anyone other than Varela, but that deal was done back earlier in the year after his trial. The simple fact of the matter is that Woddy woodward is incompetent and has no experience of this side of the business, he is struggling and we are missing our targets, its like having Kenyon back but worse! David Gill was a god send compared to woody.

Bazza

Bazza,

I guess you know absolutely nothing about Ed Woodward, let's get to the end of the transfer window before we even start to slag him off.

02 Aug 2013 09:30:18
I'm getting to the point now where I wish I could just fast forward to the end of the window then look back to see who came in. Ronaldo? Fabregas? Fellaini? Baines? Or people I've never heard of? Don't know how many more rumours I can take. Although I'll still be looking on here about 6 or 7 times a day. Things were so much easier before the transfer window!

02 Aug 2013 09:01:02
All I will sy regarding Ronaldo is there generally is no smoke without
Fire or burning embers :)

The united higher ups must have spoke to Mendes and got
Positive feedback.

I'm not saying it will happen, but why hasn't Robbie signed a new deal yet.
I don't think he is happy there anymore, returning here from
The champions league maybe he realised how loved he was here and wants to come back.

I don't think he will but I hope he does

Gaz

Because Savage is washed up & Fowler is in Aus ;-)

If there is no smoke without fire then regarding Fabregas we must have been looking at the wrong Indians

02 Aug 2013 08:54:14
I've said all along that I don't understand the Fabregas deal and the way its been handled but with Cesc's continued deafening silence it really is becoming more likely. I posted in April my dream of Bale to Real and Ronaldo to us, OK OK I had Vidal, Thiago and Baines in there too. So now there is a chance of at least part of my dreams coming true.

Thinking of Cesc and Ronaldo here really is amazing if we somehow miss out on these 2 and end up with Fellaini : (. Would be like a dream of being tag teamed by Rhianna and Beyonc� and waking up beside Dale Winton and Michael Barrymore asking if you wanted to "spend the night by the pool".

Haha cracker mate, nice one!

Looks like we will miss out on all our No 1 targets.

If this is the case then I think we should move for Fellaini and Barton

02 Aug 2013 06:42:03
I'd love Ronaldo to come back as much as anyone, but assuming there is some truth in the rumours of him wanting to leave I think we have to be prepared for other bids for him. If it becomes obvious we are in for him, surely Chelsea, City, PSG ey al will put stupid money on table. They will be able to outbid us on the fee and offer Ronnie ridiculous money. I'd love to think he is as romantic as we are but ist it's £12M a year or £30M a year I fear romance may go out of the window

The negative one thinks Ronnie WILL rejoin united

I would agree AJH although I don't think Chelsea would as Ronnys relationship with Jose seems strained to say the least. I still think with all this going on its Ronny engineering a big contract for himself. Let's hope he really does want the move to Old Trafford and if so we do everything possible to give it a chance of happening

02 Aug 2013 02:03:44
Hi all,

I have been following the site for years but only get the time to post very occasionally. I guess only a few of the regular posters may recall my username here.

It's weird because I don't have a football comment to make right now, but I am hurting and for some strange reason I feel like I need to share it with you.

I got fired from my job today and it was really unethical. I have worked my way up the career ladder sacrificing so much that it is very difficult to understand let alone cope with the circumstances.

I was recently married, so need to start looking for a job in the morning. But I couldn't sleep tonight so just wanted to thank you, my brothers and sisters.

Thank you for making each day a little more enjoyable.
I have never met any of you and because I am such an infrequent poster I don't expect anyone to remember me, but I spent the day talking to my family about my thoughts and feelings and thought I would do the same with you. After all, you are all part of my family too. I don't always agree with what you say, but share the same love for our club as each and everyone of you. In a way we are kindred spirits.

I just wanted to thank the ed's as well for making the site what it is and I am so happy that your back on the forum.

Ok, I think I should make some sort of comment considering I just put you through all that.

I don't know if CR7 is coming home. But I know that if he does it will really scare City and the special one. As it stands we have the toughest opening games and I think both teams would have a bit of a psychological edge on us due to their summer spending. This coupled with the fact that Moyes had got the worst job in football (in terms of pressure) in following up immediately after Sir Alex.

However should Ronny come home and we are able to also strengthen the midfield, the confidence boast to the whole club including Moyes himself can really kick start our season.

Swansea is a really tough start and I watched them today albeit against some lesser opposition. They were very impressive.

The mid-table teams such as Norwich, Southampton, Swansea etc (even Cardiff have made some impressive signings for a newly promoted team) have strengthened To a point that should we have started the new season without the likes of Ronaldo, a lot of teams will fancy getting something against us. Fingers crossed we pull it off, because physiologically the so called lesser teams will go into fixtures against us and either play for a draw at best or even just damage control. Then it will be more about breaking through which we will have more than enough talent to do.

We would become firm favourites in my eyes to pick up the title, and also become the team you want to avoid in Europe.

But my point is (believe it or not I actual have one, this is not just the ramblings of a madman) we are really not that far away from being a superb team. Ronaldo, Fabregas etc will just give us that extra bit of class. I guess what i'm trying to say is even without these signings we will be very competitive (certainly in the league). We don't just roll over and die. If you want the league, you have to finish above us!

Come on City, Come on Chelsea. BRING IT!

We are ready for you.

Thanks for reading, sorry about the insanely long post.

U-N-I-T-E-D F-O-R-E-V-E-R

Just goes to show the bond we have thanks to this wonderful club known as Manchester United. Thank you for sharing and good luck to you finding a new job, I hope you find something that you love to do soon.

This site is my home page, I can't go a day without going through the site. I would like to thank everyone for posting and reading my opinions and rumours, and wish everyone good luck for whatever they are doing in life.

May we have a happy transfer window.

In Moyes we trust, in United we believe.

Bad luck about your job, hand my CV in for vacancy please, jokes. Ronaldo would be a massive boost to the team, the fans and the club, and he would take the team to the next level. Also Nike would love such a deal. I always find it ironic, that Adidas and Nike would probably want Ronaldo and Messi to swap teams. Anyways hope you get a new job soon.

All the best man.

I recognise your name matey, and that was a good post, you should post more often.

Sorry to hear about you losing your job, sounds sh1t, keep your head up mate and get back out their.

Agree that Ronny and Fab would scare teams, and complete us even, but I'm sceptical that we would spend over £100m on two, albeit very good, players.

Funnily, our rivals spending big early actually increases this chance IMO.

Hello mate, sorry to hear that pal and I hope everything works out good for you and this site offers some sort of escape.

I agree with with everything u have said, the league is gunna be so competitive this year.
We have spent the last few years imo building up a squad now it just needs the finishing touches of worldclass talent in certain areas and I too think we we will be there.
If Ronaldo came home it would cause a stir and give us an edge not even mour could talk his way around and ino with a midfielder or two CL would be in touching distance too.

I hope u are ok mate, these things happen for a reason and in 10 years u could be looking back and think that was the best thing that happened for your carrer.
Gd luck again mate.

02 Aug 2013 08:05:49
Well I remember you, and I sure many of the other regulars do as well. Sorry to hear about the current rough patch your going through. Remember life full of ups and downs, the trick to it is to appreciate the ups and remember the downs don't last forever. It sounds like you made it quite high up the ladder, well that means you will have excellent experiance that anothe company will be happy to benefit from.

In five weeks time I will be making myself volentarily unemployed as I will be leaving my current work place and moving to Newcastle (which is about 300 miles aways from my current location). Its a terrifiying thought as i've been in work for the 10 years. I'm also self employed currently, so if it goes wrong and I am unable to find a job quickly I am not entitled to any form of benefits for 6 months. Due to the rules regarding self employed people who lose their job.

So I can understand some of the fears and worries your currently going through. Although obviously I won't feel any injustice in losing my job as it was my choice.

I've always found the key to life. is to force yourself to be positive until things start to work out for you, at which point you won't need to force yourself anymore. If your a happy positive person it will attract people to you, which in your case and soon to be my case should get us jobs when presented with an interview.

Keep yourself busy too, sort out the house, go for a run, exercise in general, even offer to help family and friends with stuff. If you sit around and do nothing it will drag you down.

As for football, well the season is almost apon us. And I totally agree with you, we have an excellent squad with some great young players who will only get better and better. Yes one or two additions will take the first team to the next level imo, but if we don't get them then we will still be competitive on all fronts.

I'm looking forward to the season, i'm really excited about this season as I have no idea how it will pan out.

So keep your chin up, remain positive and busy and things will work out in the end.

Alright mate, really sorry to hear about the job situation.

life is a cruel mistress and she has a bad habit of kicking you in the balls sometimes. however, without meaning to patronise, the bad times always come to an end and sometimes an enforced change can be an opportunity. I'm sure that's not much comfort right now so I'll just say good luck with your next move.

with regards the more trivial matter of kicking a ball about, you're right that the title is ours to lose and we won't give up without a fight. I just hope Moyes can continue the never say die attitude which won games for us in the last minutes under fergie.

that belief goes a long way but you're right in saying we need to add some quality to up the fear factor from other teams. in years gone by I think a lot of teams were beaten before they even stepped out on the pitch. a front four of rvp, Rooney, ronaldo and kagawa with fabragas and Carrick behind should scare the crap out of most!

Can you play centre midfield? Only joking, good luck in the job market mate.

Boyley

Felt sorry to hear that you lost your job, I left my job so that I can spend time with my parents and be of use to them in their old age. Companies are like this my friend, they are true only to themselves.

I hope you get a job soon, for me I am going to start my own software firm.

Good luck with the job hunting mate :)

Nice post, sorry to hear about your job. hope u get another one soon, good luck mate. we are a big family on this site and a lot of good guys to, i'm glad I got to know some of u zee:)

Good luck with your job hunting. Youll find one soon.

Singh

02 Aug 2013 00:56:20
Quick question. If, and it's a big if, Ronaldo does return, would people be happy with spending £80 million plus on him and not buying anyone else?

If he does come, I can't see us spending £20-£30 million on other players. Despite this, I'd be pretty happy with just him coming.

He'd paper over the cracks of the midfield for a little while at least and would give the likes of Januzaj and Powell the chance to develop without finding their paths to the first team blocked.

#ags

You know when we said we papered over the cracks last season when RVP arrived? Well let's just say with Ronaldo, it would be much more than just papering over it. An attack of Robin Van Persie, Cristiano Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney ( if he stays ) is beyond formidable. Add Fellaini to that and we'd be in champions league contention ( still not as good as Barca and munich but not too far )

I agree with Mick - a front three of Ronny, Rooney and RVP would be outstanding but we still need a midfielder but to be honest if ronaldo came back I wouldn't care as much to who it is - toite, cabaye, fellaini etc

I agree with the two above. What Ronaldo would bring to the pitch would be amazing. Couple that with what our up and coming talent would learn from him. Remember the influence Cantona had on the young lads.

He doesn't paper over any cracks because he isn't a midfielder.
It still leaves us short in the middle of the park.
That's the position that needs strengthening the most.

Simmo

If we miraculously brought Ronaldo back then Rooney would certainly be out the door. He would free-up the wages for Ronaldo and £30m+ would go a long way to funding a Ronaldo move. On a personal level he was always in Ronaldo's shadow when Ronaldo was here, with RvP & Ronaldo ahead of Rooney I doubt he would be able to handle that again. He will want to be the main man and he wouldn't be here.

Sydney!