Manchester United Banter Archive June 02 2012

 

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02 Jun 2012 23:10:16
a bit of bad news guys. will keane has suffered a massive blow as he has damaged his cruciate knee ligaments. same injury vidic suffered. fergie said its a shame as he was in the squad for next season. poor dude, as things were looking good. hope he makes a speedy recovery

muffinMan

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Yeah, I was looking forward for the lad playing in the first squad.

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Also, we landed on the moon, and we won the champions league in 1999!

GDS

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Did we land on the moon in 1969 ?

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02 Jun 2012 22:32:27
Apparently our beloved Sir Alex Ferguson has stated at the back of the Daily Fail Sport that he wont be going in a summer spending spree and then after that expects us to renew our season tickets...,oh what a shame,going back to watch the same old United,disappointing us...Oh NO Edd...,so does this mean he wont be spending for sure Edd..?

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He wont spend big money on players like s**tty and chelsea he will spend money on players that will come in for around 15 to 25 millon he wont spend 40 or 50 millon we can forget that

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It says united have asked about tiote modric and baines
‘We have made inquiries for all three players,’ admitted an Old Trafford source. ‘But Sir Alex will not be paying these ridiculous fees.
jred

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So you support the club because they are good, not because you love them? How do you think fans of Bolton, wolves etc feel, no wonder they hate united.

Spoilt fans, pathetic.

I'll be there every week whoever we sign and I will hope we win the league like I do every season.

GDS

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Well said GDS.

Mike

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Well said GDS. The comment made me cringe. The same old united who lost the league on goal difference. The same old united who didn't have our captain for the season. The same old united who lost an important midfielder in Fletcher. I hope the same old united is here to stay. SHRIMP

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"admitted an Old Trafford source"

So what they mean is they have looked at the positions United need to improve and went with these three players as we have been linked to them before via their newspaper. Never heard so much rubbish in all my life. We may well be interested in 1, 2 or 3 of them, but the "An Old Trafford source" nonsense is most laughable.

Onto another point, who in their sane minds would pay £20m for Gareth Baines, surely you would pay the extra £15m to try and sign Bale?

Sydney!

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Gareth Baines Sydney? Had a rough night did you? Wife made you sleep on the couch? Get some sleep mate! ;)

REDFAITH

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Wow, what a typo ;)

Sydney!

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02 Jun 2012 22:21:53
watchedm the England vs Belgium game. Wanted to see Hazard. It may be a bit unfair judging him from just one game (i never really watched him before) but his performance was nothing to write home about. he was pretty ordinary to me.

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I was shocked at how small he is. Looked like he could get knocked of the ball a lot.
Didnt look as good as his ego would suggest he should be

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That's just it. He seemed like a fish out of water. I remeber watching the Dortmund vs Byern (spelling) because i wanted to see what Kagawa was like. He immediately stood out and not just with the opening goal, but his run and passes thru out the game was sublime. Us not getting Hazard is a subtle blessing.

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02 Jun 2012 22:18:27
Not long now before sunday papers&no doubt some more names linked with Utd which will get some excited, what I work out so far there's obvious Kagawa deal close&an interest in Powell at crewe.the Hazard link was interest but how long that lasted with he's demands I don't think would have been long.Other than that to me other is just the normal press throwing names up. All for signing younger players who could grow into stars but we need 3 top quality now for 1st team, some will say only goal diff.don't be fooled I'm a season tkt holder&no were not the level we was! I can deal with if players all abou money then they can go City,chelsea.just don't try the cover of value in the market or players we want not availble nonsense if you aint got the money!who do they think believes that?no value erm Ozil&Khadira for 20m total in same summer Utd tried that line! It maybe a twisted way but another year of no trophies in long run is what we need,every year no trophies the Glazer finances are highlighted&the pressure builds,when we win the title caus of fergie magic there forgotten! Soon as we get rid of these leeches the better!

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02 Jun 2012 20:48:32
Sneijder has had a great game against the greatest International Team in the World.

Jetro Willems also playing to his usual standard, brilliant player.

NI have made ourselves look really really good tonight, haven't they? ;)

Ps. I bet all the Sneijder rumours will begin again.

MPez

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Nani scored for portugal aswell, to add to your post

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It was a good free kick though and we do need one of them ;-)

Jono {Ed004's Note - Sneijder also played extremely well against Bulgaria (I think it was) in the last friendly. Superb pass to RVP for the goal}

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Thats because sneijder is a quality player, had a poor season for inter but im not sure how much he wanted to be there, got a funny feeling he will be fully fit and in top form for the dutch tho
jred {Ed004's Note - I think he would be perfect for the style of play we want to incorporate next season and for anything under 20 million I would bite Inters hand off. He is excelling in that dutch team with quality players around him and his work rate has been highly impressive and he has dropped back at times to help the team. So if we could get M'Villa and Sneijder in a midfield along side Cleverley or Kagawa I think that would be a very creative midfield...}

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Edd ive been a big fan of sneijder for years i think his one of the best in the world at what he does and is the best player in a very good dutch team.
20 mill would be a great deal
jred

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02 Jun 2012 20:30:45
Well that is the first time I have seen Eden Hazard live and it's safe to say I wasn't very impressed.

For the price and wages being touted he never showed anywhere near that standard of play. He looked lightweight, dis-interested and overall looked very poor. He only seemed to go sideways with his passes apart from one occasion and if that is all he was bringing to our team I think in the end it is 32 million pounds well saved.

On the other hand I really liked Dembele and Witsel in the middle of the park. Dembele impressed me a bit this season but I didn't think he was Utd class. He looked strong, skillfull and something that we are missing and for 10 million would be a cheap option till someone better came on offer (eriksen,gotze etc). Witsel looked good when he played us earlier this year and I was impressed again and today further enhanced his reputation in my eyes.

Just liked to say another Man Utd player popping up with a goal. Well taken from Welbeck who is looking more and more deadly every game. Where would England be without Man Utd players.

fearny

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What is with people judging players over just one game. Cocky person or not there is a reason he was the french league player of the year.

CnM

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02 Jun 2012 20:30:15
Well that England game was incredibly boring, is it me or are the only good players on the ball were our players (Welbeck, Rooney, Young) and also Arsenal's Oxlade-Chamberlain. There was no guile, no flair from the rest. New Manager, same old England.

Johnson and Richards would be far better than Johnson and Milner who are absolute garbage. The Euro's is going to be a waste of time. My only interest is that none of our players get injured as Young, Welbeck and Rooney are going to be very important for us next season.

I'd also just like to make a comment on Hazard who was extremly average and did nothing to justify £32 million pounds and 250k a week. I feel less bad about missing out on him, he doesn't have the physique of Ronaldo to be that type of player and whilst his ball control is good, other parts of his game are lacking. As we can see, outside of the French League (even in Europe) he is a shaddow of what he is in the French League. I'm pleased England have won, but i'm more pleased that our lads got through the game and that Hazard doesn't look as good as is hyped.

RedDevil19

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I think the United players will be England's only real attacking threat at the Euros.

APC

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02 Jun 2012 19:57:34
Gerard - man of the match?!?! What's the guy on ?

Mike

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02 Jun 2012 19:26:15
What a finish from Welbeck. He's going to be a brilliant player.

Percy

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How can people disagree with that?

Percy

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Because he didn't cost us anything Percy.

Joe

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Percy

No more than one game doesn't make Hazard a bad player one good finish doesn't make Danny into a player who is going to be great.

Danny has some good all round attributes but doesn't do one thing outstandingly well, his touch can let him down. I think he is definitely worth having at united but I haven't seen a great striker in him

Red Man

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02 Jun 2012 19:17:15
glen johnson and james milner are no good, id much rather see richards and adam johnson down the right.

different manager, same old boring football, why harry ,melting face, redknapp didn't get the job i don't know.

but a wins a win i suppose.

JK92

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I agree, Johnson does nothing, he seems to only play because he doesn't make mistakes and is a solid defender.... Milner was pretty poor today but is a decent player...

UNITED_LEGENDS

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Johnson is a very poor defender and poor in attack. Not sure what Johnson you watch UL.

Sydney!

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I would disagree Sydney, I think JOhnson is pretty good going forward, not so defending though that is agreed on. I would certainly rather have RIchards though as the original poster said
Invisible lSTuey

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I say solid, I don't think he is poor, just an average player for me..... Richards is far better imo

UNITED_LEGENDS

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02 Jun 2012 19:14:51
Stevie Me man of the match, how did they work that one out? was he the cart horse trying to keep up with the game? personally i'd have given it to Glen Johnson,best laugh iv'e had for ages.

Raffa

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Fellaini was all over Gerrard all game, or rather the half that Gerrard managed.

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02 Jun 2012 18:56:21
Watching England and bored. At times I think that players are having the skill coached out of them . Too much emphasis on tactics and formations, to the point that most football is dire to watch.

Often thought that teams should be greater incentivised to attack and score goals. An example would be the away goal rule in European football . It kills the home legs as teams put an emphasis on not conceding whereas they should be going all out to score.

Hope the European Championship provides better fare.

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02 Jun 2012 18:50:41
watching england game.. and i sware i havent seen even a little special from hazard to justify 32m tag. even AOC is batter

rodio17

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I know you cannot judge someone over one game, but you can clearly see he will never be a Ronaldo or Messi. Still looks good technically and probably will turn out to be a top class player, but he will never reach the heights of Ronaldo IMO.

Sydney!

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Syd
Come on is that not a bit harsh , you have just judged the lad over one game and it's only a friendly.
Ronaldo is the best player in the world and I've seen him have some awful games for Portugal over the last 2 years never mind when he was 21.
Don't get me started with messi and Argentina
Jred

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In that case we can say what we have on those positions, are batter. so those money to be spent to cover for much need weak links i.e. evra and my fav carrik.
he would have been special if he choose to sign for spcl club.. he has not done it so wil given little chance to prove and then bench is the place.. next season another multi million signing by chelsea and then who's who?
rodio17

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Jred, it's not harsh at all my friend. Ronaldo and Messi are on a different planet to anyone else I have seen in this era. Like Pele, Best and Maradona. Hazard has a lot of talent, but I do not think he will make the grade of either of Ronaldo and Messi. Perhaps Robben or Ribery standard? I am not judging it purely on that one game either mate. Very talented player but I cannot quite see that extra something in him that I seen in Messi and Ronaldo. It may come later on in his career, We will see I guess.

Sydney!

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I agree Sydney, he wont reach the heights of Messi or Ronaldo, but then again how many players have over the last 15 years or so, you could count them on one hand. Makes me laugh the sudden Hazard aint that great statements from people, just sounds bitter. The guy has never performed for Belgium, then again Messi has rarely for Argentina, so why are people basing judgement on one game, probably the same kind of people beggin gus to sign him without even seeing him play in the first place. He will be a top player, and although he was quiet you could see the player has very good technique and speed, and he was playing up front for Belgium, not further back where he will get much more of the pall and opportunities to run at people and make things happen in the premiership. He will be a top player, I have no doubts, but I am sick of hearing about him, we missed outy, move on to the next player we do sign
Invisible STuey

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Syd,

Must admit the Belgians have a young team, they've got potential to do well in 2-4 yes time, but I'll agree on the Hazard point - can't see him reaching Ronny/Messi levels as they were both more advanced at this point than he is, probably 2/3 years junior in fact.

Don't get me wrong I think he'll be a class act, but like you said these 2 are the elite of this generation.

Moog

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I agree, no one can say he "Hazard aint that great", you can see he is a very talented player and will only improve, but a while back many believed he could be in the same bracket as Messi and Ronaldo and I have to disagree. They have that something extra and I haven't seen it in Hazard to date, but he is only 21 so that could change. Players do develop at different ages. He may improve tenfold whilst at Chelsea.

Sydney!

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Syd
come on is it not a bit harsh to judge a 21 lad against messi and ronaldo you could make a case for either of them 2 not only being the best player in the world but the best player ever


hazard has everything to be a great player how good only time will tell, i think he may well kick on at chelsea but you never know,
you say it is clear to see he will never be a messi but in the history of the game who as?
we might not see another player like that for 20 year
jred

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02 Jun 2012 18:32:36
My phone rang this morning and it said the caller was Man Utd. The voice is a recorded SAF message reminding me to renew my season ticket which as I have said before is something I am waiting to do.

This is one of a few reminders i have had , I wonder if sales are not as strong as expected?

Red Man

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They have been down for the last 3 years and are even available on finance now which tells its own story. Like you I think a good few fans are waiting to see what happens in the summer before making the commitment.

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Or on a positive note, maybe they are trying to increase sales?
now, where's my half full cup......

Whistler.

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51,800 season tickets sold last season before the season kicked off. I guess we will see if it increases or decreases this summer. 54,000 is the target.

Sydney!

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02 Jun 2012 18:18:23
01 Jun 2012 21:10:42
I wonder what was going through Gan's head when he decided he would post in 3rd person?

G.A.G.US"""
dear mr gagus
ngiak is represented by Gan
isn't that the most obvious thing in the world?
a concept that is so hard to grasp?
penguins are very intelligent but find it difficult to use the keyboard...
by the way Dembele and mertens seem better than hazard
gan

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I have been most impressed by Witsel.

Very composed under real pressure from Gerrard, Young and Parker and plays that Carrick role with one massive difference..... his head is up!

Jono

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And Fellaini, I've been criticising him on here... But he bossed the midfield today, some excellent ball winning and retention.

DodgyBanter

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02 Jun 2012 18:09:52
Welbeck did need to work on his finishing...

APC

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02 Jun 2012 17:52:31
Good finish by Welbeck!
YankSAW

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02 Jun 2012 17:48:37
Fallaini (sp) = Screech from Saved by the Bell

DodgyBanter

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Beckham's looking a bit Sloth out of the Goonies with his new hair doo as well!

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An old one i even think thats what everton players have called him since day 1

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02 Jun 2012 17:46:16
How does Glen Johnson get into the Liverpool team, let alone the England team. Awful player. Milner is no winger either.

Sydney!

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They are weak links like evra and carrik for united but somehow they both plays regularly isnt it.. some stuff are out of understanding.. like playing park ahead of welbeck on a derby game? ooo i dnt want to start again
rodio17

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02 Jun 2012 17:29:58
Andy Townsend slating Ashley Young non-stop for about two minutes, even though it was Glen Johnson, not Young ;)

Sydney!

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Andy Townsend should never talk again, let alone commentate on a football match. He suffers from a serious case of verbal diaohria! (spelling).

FredtheRed {Ed007's Note - He dyed his hair at USA94 thinking the opposition wouldn't recognise him! 70 caps for Eire and sitting there slevering a load of ****!}

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He named the wrong players several times, awful commentating
Invisible STuey

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Andy Townsend is a DD tit.

G.A.G.U.S

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02 Jun 2012 17:13:42
Anyone else think Anderson should be moved into a more advanced position? Well, it may be a little bit too late now if Kagawa signs but I thought it at the beginning of last season. SAF turned him into a defensive midfielder just like he did with Alan smith. He is Brazilian after all.

AOC.

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Alex Oxlade Chamberlin, stop posting and start playing !

DodgyBanter

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Anderson only advance position should be at the check out counter at Machester Airport. He's had enough chances.

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02 Jun 2012 16:41:33
Rooney to PSG 100m good luck replacing him

Cheesy Lemon

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Have they lowered the offer? It was 140 the other day!

Grow up.

GDS

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I'd snap your hand off!!

Whistler.

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02 Jun 2012 16:40:08
cant really see any massive moves in the transfer market for midfield players after we hopefully sign kawaga. i think he will be our marquee signing just like last season when young was signed along with de gea and jones hopefully im wrong but really cant see big moves happening when the glazers are stuck with the debt that they have
we need a striker,cm,lb and let jones and rafa fight it out for rb with evans and smalling cb cover
berbatov,owen,kusack,anderson,bebe, fabio(loan) all set to leave or have already so i hope im wrong and there is alot of transfer activity but cant see it

RMK

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Get over the marquee singing! whatever fergie wants to do i for 1 will trust him them young players in the team r under rated. they r the future and i cant wait to c how they get on next year top young talant!

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02 Jun 2012 16:31:27
england team for tonight
: Hart; Johnson, Cahill, Terry, Cole; Parker, Milner, Gerrard (c), Oxlade-Chamberlain, Young; Welbeck.
jred

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02 Jun 2012 16:09:25
No matter how much everyone slates nani, i for one believes he should stay, if we were to replace them how would we knoe that they would instantly be effective?
10 goals - 12 assists
for a player injured for a lot of this time this is a good record. if we could keep him fit and start using him as a 2nd striker i think he will shine.
he should be given atleast 1 more yr.

TRUMORS

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02 Jun 2012 15:46:30
Even though I think kagawa will eventually become a great signing(if we sign him), we need to stop thinking hes some world-beater thats gunna supply us with all these goals. Of course we need another striker. We can't rely on Rooney getting us 30 goals a season. We need someone who will score goals from anywhere. I know we've got Hernandez and Welbeck but if these turn out to great (which I think they will) then pushing Rooney a bit more deeper could be ideal. Who this striker is I don't know but there is someone out there.

On another topic people keep saying we need another LW. But for me if we let Nani go (as I prefer him on the right) we need another RW as there is no competition for Valencia in case he gets injured. But even saying this if we let Park go aswell there will be no competition for Young unless Kagawa is used on the left.

My ideal signings for this summer would be;
Martinez(probs too much)/Strootman/Mvilla(even though he'll probs go Arsenal)
Rodriguez(if hes as good as made out to be)
Lewandowski/De Jong(good young prospects and would fit in well in the PL)

Dec

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Kagawa got player of the Bundesliga. He's pure class. And I would say that he is probably world class in his position.

Percy

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Totally agree, however my ideal signings
would be kagawa, martinez and higuain
would cost arounnd 65million
(12, 28, 25)
but by selling the likes of berbatov and park, we could have an amazing team with a good amount spent

TRUMORS

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Trumors my friend, those three players would cost upwards of £110m.

Sydney!

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Sydney

Martinez should be around £32m , Kagawa 17 and Higuain 35m so not sure where you get 110m

Red Man

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10-20% agent fees, 20% tax, 20% tax on agent fees.

Sydney!

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If you haven't noticed, your in MASSIVE debt and was forced to bring scholes back instead of buying a replacement.
AnfieldUSA

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That doesn't add up to another 30m plus and sounds like a little bit of scaremongering if I am honest

Red Man

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When people have a bit of banter they don't normally add on tax vat etc it's just a bit of crack just the same as putting a value on a player
Jred

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We are talking about how much it would cost our club to bring Kagawa, Martinez & Higuain to the club and £110m is what I believe it would cost. Not having a bit of a crack or scaremongering, being realistic. Going by Red Man's figure of £17m, £32m, £35m with just 10% agent fees (which is a rarity these days) and tax totals at £109.2m, that is excluding tax on agent fees and player's signing on fees.

Sydney!

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AnfieldUSA

You do realise that Manchester United are a profitable club whereas Liverpool are making huge losses? We have money, it's you that is being bankrolled by investors.

Sydney!

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"Rodriguez(if hes as good as made out to be)" - Great comment OP. YOu want us to sign a player you obviously havent even seen play
Invisible STuey

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Syd
no if you read the post's i think redman and trumours were putting a price on the players .
every time you post on hear about a player and how much he would cost do you add tax etc i dont.
jred {Ed007's Note - Syd does.....:-(

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02 Jun 2012 15:41:52
I think that man utd should sign modric in addition to kagawa because one creative midfielder isnt enough imo. When kagawa Isnt their we will just be same ol' utd with no creative spark in midfield therefore modric should be signed because i highly rate him and just what we need. Definitely not sneijder, I was doubtful about him last season, even more so this year. I still feel that we should have a dmf because every top club has some sort of ball winning/holding mid in their ranks: city=de jong,toure. Chelsea=ramires.arsenal=song. Barca=biscuits. Etc same for an attacking mid but at the moment we do not posses either. So we should sign a big,strong and energetic player like m'vila or asamoah.

I feel we should keep nani because he will only improve if he has the right players around him but if he is sold we should get rodriguez or munain (honestly dont know much about these players but their name seems to be popular around here so I will trust your judgement). I really doubt we need any more strikers because weve good 3 players who would all be competing for a spot unless we go for a promising young striker.

Defence honestly was depressing to watch at times last year but with vidic back and maybe a left back we should be fine.

Hopeful team:
----------------De gea--------------
Raf-----vid----smalling/jones---LB
---------asamoah/m'vila--modric-------
Valencia-----kagawa------young/nani
---------------rooney------------------

Obviously this is never going to happen because 3 new
Mids is very unlikely but would be delighted with:
Kagawa-12-17m
Modric-25-30m
Asamoah-15m
Total:52-62m

Doni

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02 Jun 2012 15:29:42
I can see United trying for Ronaldinho now he's a free agent. Ronaldinho walked out of Flamengo because of wage issue's. Obviously he isn't as quick as he used to be as he's getting older but the skill is still there. I'd definitely have him at United anyway!!

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Are you having a laugh! hes well past his best and not the player you remember at Barcelona trust me !

NAMELESS CHILD

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No but he's in the right age bracket for you lot - he'll fit right in with Giggs and Scholes

Puzzled

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He'd turn Liverpool down Puzzy, that's how far you lot have fallen!

DodgyBanter

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Yes and I hear gerd muller is thinking of making a comeback so could we possibly be interested in him .

Twaddle

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Sorry dodgy, it's time for you to wake up.

In our worse season ever, we managed to win silverware, and you?
AnfieldUSA

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Community Shield is silverware. We also secured a Champions League football for next season, you.........?

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In one of our worst seasons we managed to be within 1minute of winning the premiership AnfieldUSA, the main domestic title that you havent and look like being nowhere near to even competing towards for a long time, but well done on your Mickey Mouse Cups that all the top tema splay there youngsters in predominantly now.
Invisible STuey

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02 Jun 2012 13:37:23
Nani will sign a new deal, just trying to be a money grabbing winger. He mentioned he wanted to be a legend with us, several months ago. Obviously he knows himself he isn't at the moment, he needs a few more years before he reaches that status. He will just be offered a good wage, stay at the club on a long term deal. Plus he has disscussed possibilities with us, if he wanted to leave he would decline offers straight away in order to move. If we don't offer him what he wants then he would depart. Really though he wants to continue.

Anderson seems out of the franme, Ferguson stated before the city derby he was fit but it was pointless brining him back at this stage of the season. I think Anderson wants to leave the club. Pogba looks set to leave, had plenty of time to sign a new deal, money grabber. Park is out of contract, if nani goes park will stay. But if nani stays park might have his contract renewal declined, unfortunate.

Overall I see Pogba leaving,but if we offer him the amount he wants then he will inevitable stay. anderson the same high possibility of his departure, looks like living in england has just got to him, missing home in brazil. Park looks set to leave if nani stays.

I feel Bebe and Kagawa will be the new additions this term to the first team squad. We could possible have something like this

Wingers- Valencia, young, giggs, bebe, nani
center mids- cleverly, carrick, fletcher, scholes, kagawa

Anderson could be brought out of his contract.
pogba could stay depending on the amount offered to him.
Park will have his future depend on nani decision.

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Park has said he wants to end his career at united
jred

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Sorry I didn't catch that, Park's future will depend on what?! lol

Nik Legend SA

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I suspect Nani and Park will both leave this summer, Bebe will certainly leave if a bid comes in for him. I guess we will know soon enough.

Sydney!

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Lost me at Bebe will get another game for Utd.

DodgyBanter

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DodgyBanter

We paid over £7M for Bebe so if he is back with us it creates a problem. An asset that cost so much who has not excelled on loan and we will need to sell. A league cup outing is likely if we want to shift hm

Red Man

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Bebe played very well for Besiktas before his injury, it was his clubbing that was the issue and why Besiktas have ended the loan prematurely. Bebe will not play for United again competitively IMO. He may go on the preseason tour though if he isn't sold beforehand.

Sydney!

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02 Jun 2012 12:51:45
I think that SAF is going for high amounts of possesion football, that will mean that we don't play with an out and out midfield general in the middle of the pitch. He is obviously targetting ball players, like Kagawa, like Hazard, Modric etc. These are the types that we are going for.

If you look at the successful Barcelona model, you can see that the only really ball winner is Busquets who is very much like Carrick, so I think that we already have that player. SAF will also have taken note at the pressing of Bilbao and I think he also wished to incorperate that more into our game. So he's looking at players with high work rate also (apart from Hazard). Thats why i still think that if Nani goes, then we will make a move for Muniain.

The main two targets though are Kagawa (almost done), and Modric who would suit this style perfectly and is proven in the EPL and performed well in the CL. He would be much better suited than Sneijder would, i don't know why anyone wants him at OT. The pair are going to cost us something like £45 million, which i think is good business, Kagawa could easily cost £30 million if his contract was longer - so we are saving a heck of a lot of money.

Youth obviously is being actively invested in, Powell, Clyne, Williems I think are the priority on this front, but also perhaps a young striker like Henriquez who we may see in a year or two. Also i'd just like to wish Will Keane all the besti n his rehabilitation, i'm sure he and Petrucci will break through in their own time. I'm also quite surprised to see Amos sign on, probably means that we need not sign Butland which saves further costs.

I've also heard that we are in talks with Udinese for Benatia who would be a solid right back, and center back rolled into one which would be great. Watching Udinese vs Arsenal last year showed how well he handled van Persie. For a fee under £10 million that is rediculously good value for money. As it stands, with the way deals are sounding like they are going the 3 players we want are Benatia, Kagawa and Modric alongside the youth of Powell, Clyne and Williems. Williems is a must for me, he will be second choice, him Fabio and Blackett will all get their chances, especially when Fryers is shown the door for being overly demanding.

The other thing to mention is the Pogba situation, i did think that he'd be gone. But i've reconsidered my point of view on this, he has said that he wants to be a legend here..that is a positive. Its his agent that is twisting things, and we are showing willing and desire to keep him. This whole match fixing thing in Italy can't be appealing for him and also the knowledge that he will go to Udinese on loan probably can't be that inspiring. I fancy him to stay.

So, I think this is the summer that we are realistically looking at:

Ins:

- Mehdi Benatia £10 million
- Shinji Kagawa £12 million (rising figure)
- Luka Modric £30 million.

- Jetro Williems £3 million.
- Nathaniel Clyne NOMINAL
- Nick Powell £4 million.

That is a spend of around £60 million. But money will be recuperated, the process has already started. We already have releasead Owen and Kusczack, thats probably 50k off of the wage bill. £2 million has been got for James and De Laet, Norwood will follow as will Wooton, R. Brown, maybe King etc. Berbatov will attract the highest fee, probably £6-8 million with a further 90k off of the wage bill. So financially we can expect £10 million back, with maybe 150k off of the wage bill? This will mean a NET Spend of £50 million just like last year.

The only other deal would be if Nani goes as he would have to be replaced. We couldn't just have Valencia, Young and Park. We'd be very short, Welbeck can play left but it isn't ideal. So, with the style of football we are looking for, i'd say we would go for Muniain as i reckon that, out of everyone, he would be the most available. You'd get around £25 for Nani and you'd pay the same for Muniain so the costs would be zeroed.

Realistic Team:

______________DDG
Rafael___Smalling___Vidic___Evra
_________Carrick____Modric
Nani/Valencia__Kagawa____Young
_____________Rooney

Then we'd have plenty of other options to explore with Giggs, Scholes, Pogba, Fletcher, Anderson, Welbeck, Chicharito etc.

RedDevil19

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Good post RedDevil19. I completely agree with everything you wrote there.

REDFAITH

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All valid points I'd love for pogba to stay really feel if played enough he could make a impact on te league next season he's shown great potential, I think next season our midfield will probably be our strongest area, what do people think of trying witsel from benfica or someone similar I can't see another striker coming seen as Hernandez didn't play an awful lot last season so 3 I think will be fine up top

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I agree RD19 a fair few good points there. I am a fan of Modric but for the 30+m we would need to pay Spurs we could get Cabaye and Sneijder for around 18m each. If WS is reasonable with his demands this year and has not burned all his bridges with us I think those 2 for around 34-40m with wages covered by the outgoing Berba, Owen, Tommy K and possibly Ando.

I still believe we need 2 CM signings and these two would suit us and the direction we are looking to go well. At the same time both can cover CAM and both together with Carrick would be a quality ball retaining CM to build our attacks from.

Jono

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Well thought up post RD, enjoyed the read, agree with lots of it. Hopefully we can sign them players.

Of all the things people have said about Nani on here over the last few days you may have said the worst if you think he could be sold for £25 ;)

GDS

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I completely agree too. My only concern is providing cover for Evra, but from what I heard Benatia is capable of playing central defender as well left back. Any truth in that? All in all those would be my ideal summer transfers. I too would love to replace Nani with Munian. From what I've seen of him he looks an awesome prospect. He has that drive and passion in him whenever he plays and always gives everything he has. I've always felt at ease when smalling plays at central defense. Him and Vidic will make an awesome partnership.

Nik Legend SA

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02 Jun 2012 12:44:29
Percy, why do you always get your knickers in a twist over Nani? Your opinion is different to everyone elses don't shoot others down just because they don't agree with you.

My opinion on the matter is that he will be sold if a decent enough offer comes in. He is terribly inconsistent and it IS costing us, we have better players in Valencia and Young and feel we need a left footed winger.

Foozeball

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Nani is the flavour of the month, in a bad way. He's had a rough season due to injury. He started very well, and ended bright. He is a game changer, without him he'd be a loss. Who is to say that Gaitan would be any more consistent? I doubt he would be.

The only realistic target I would swap him for is Muniain.

RedDevil19

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Because they're wrong and people keep calling me out, like you've just done. He's contributed to more goals this season than Valencia and Young. The season before, he contributed to 28 goals. He's our best winger and I doubt he'll be sold, his agent is Mendes after all.

Percy

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Percy, you do realise that we were listening to offers for Nani last summer don't you? The only way we will keep Nani is if we fail to replace him. IMHO I think he is on the transfer list and with his latest comments he knows as much.

Sydney!

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I wouldn't be surprised if we're lining up Rodriguez to replace him. Rodriguez has been saying the right things, and Porto want Anderson.

G.A.G.U.S

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Sydney

Those have been my thoughts for a while. If SAF can get the right player in I think Nani will go. I like Muniain but there are others who would improve us as well

Red Man

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02 Jun 2012 12:36:18
Off the United topic but my England team for tonight. Anyone agree?

______________Hart______________
Johnson___ Terry__ Cahill__ Cole_____
_________Parker__ Gerrard__________
Milner____ Oxlade-Chamberlain__ Young
_____________Welbeck_____________

Also Rooneys expected to have a run out tonight to keep match sharpness, be intresting to see who he plays next to.

United4Ever.

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I would like to see AOC play in that position as well , looks a bit special
jred

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As long as they lose (I have money on Belgium) and Young, Cahill don't get injured (got them in my dream team) I will be happy.

Jono

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Also I think it could be Ox out right and Rooney behind Welbeck.

Jono

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Young through the middle, no way should Ox be there.

Percy

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Young will play behind Welbeck with AOC on the left... That position is Ashley Youngs till the Ukraine game when Rooney will fill it

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02 Jun 2012 12:25:44
MUFC to complete the signing of Kagawa in the next few days after Japans match.
Also SAF wants to complete a deal for young duo Clyne and Powell.
Some rumours going around that we will also try and sign Baines and Dembele, although i cant see that happening.

Ins: Kagawa
Powell
Clyne
Another midfielder?

MUFC2802

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02 Jun 2012 12:25:09
Nani(25mil) + 10mil for modric....
Love to c the croatian 'cruyff' mesmering the theatre f dreams

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02 Jun 2012 12:25:05
I was wondering if anyone else has seen much of Bryan Oviedo? I've seen him about three times and he looked solid defensively and able to whip in so great crosses. His stats say in 36 games so far this season he's only scored once but assisted 10 times which from a full back is very impressive. I know its not in a great league but if he was in our team then he would have better players around him to get on the end of his crosses so he could assist just as much in england. I'm only mentioning him as it's quite obvious that Evra will start the season as first choice so I can only see us bringing in someone cheap and unknown as cover but with the ability to push Evra and maybe even take his place. If we were to sign someone like Cissokho then he'd expect.to be first choice, Oviedo wouldn't but has the potential to be very good. The other option I could see is we don't sign anyone to cover Evra and promote Giverin into the first team squad. He was given his debut not long ago and will probably go on the pre-season tour seeing as several first teamers will be given abit more rest time due to playing in the euro's.

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Giverin has been at the club a long time, but has never held down a place in either the accademy or the reserves.He only gets games when more established players are injured.Also i wouldn't read too much into him playing in the first team in Harry Greggs testimonial,this was due to him only being required as a substitute for the Manchester senior cup final two days later with City.Depending on his cotractual position he will be either released this summer or spend another year with the reserves and then be released next summer.

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02 Jun 2012 11:58:32
For me javi matinez and Kevin strootman these is what we need in our central midfielders. Strong good passer tackle also good in the air play behind kagawa. Wouldn't go for modric and snejider both of them are too overprice and wages.

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In my opinion this summers about quality over quantity, perhaps just 2 or 3 players of real quality, we need to match the ability of City, Chelsea, Barcelona, Real Madrid. If we play City again next year and get thumped at home not to mention not even have a shot away from home then we don't deserve to win the league! For this reason I'd like to see to or three out of the following:

Sahin

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Damn submitted my post to soon :/ the list:

Sahin
Martinez
Stroodman
Kagawa
Higuain
Ozil
Van persie

I think personally I'd like Martinez / Kagawa / Van Persie

Perfect editions in my eyes which would see us match the quality in other top sides and in all honesty taking in to account sales I can't see it costing much over 50 million

Matt4486

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02 Jun 2012 11:54:18
Why does everyone want to get rid of Nani he is quality!! We desperately need a CM like Ander Herrera from Bilbao!

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Its all about the best effect. Nani on his day is up there with the best in the league.

Unfortuantely his day is few and far between.

He just can't seem to grasp the basics and always goes for the extravagent.

Can't take a corner or free kick properly. Crossing is average. Shooting is wild. Passing can be wayward and usually takes the wrong option.

The amount of times you see someone like Roonet, or Welbeck/ Hernandez make agood run and it just needs slipping in to them, no instead he blasts it. Then look at Rooney's face.

he's to frustrating an inconsistent. Not a team player always going for personal glory. Yes the same can be said about Ronaldo, but with Ronaldo 9 times out of 10 it came off, with Nani its about 2 out 10. Which for a top club is not good enough.

If he was at barca do you think he woudl still be there with that level of consistancy?

Also if he did come out with that comment that he;s won all the trophies he can with United then that does suggest that he is looking to leave and further his career in which case goodbye.

Its also been suggested he's just trying a Rooney and trying to screw us for a massive deal. Well if thats true then goodbye.

We'd survive without him and may even sign someone better. 130k a week is a good offer.

If he stays then lets hope he can improve and push on to the next level.

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02 Jun 2012 10:20:10
think a lot of people on this site no little or nothing about the club. nomore that 30million available for total transfers plus and outgoing players so no star or big name signings. we will be shopping in the bargin basement and loan and free signings

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Seems like you are one of these people

SeemsLegit

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We will spend more than £30m you clown. Hazard alone would have cost that amount.

Sydney!

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Is this because of published accounts? Cash reserves will have been significantly topped back up by now due to normal cash flow timings of a football club. (prem prize money / ticket sales / sponsorship etc etc) also deals are never just £35 cash today and you can have the player. They will stagger the payments, insert terms etc.

Money is available for Fergy, he will choose the right players... Wait till Sept to moan!

DodgyBanter

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the window isn't even open yet, most people are on holiday and the rest are all at the euro's or world cup qualifiers. No-one's really doing any business for the time being. No we can't really match the likes of City and Chelsea when they go around offering 35-40 million for players who are only worth 25-30 million to begin with and offering 50k a week more than anyone else in wages, its a false economy no matter how many billionaires they have backing them.

Ok obviously a lot depends on how they enforce the ffp rules, but Platini brought them in to stop an English domination of the champions league and although UEFA wont do jack about Madrid or Barca they will with City becuase Platini is one of the worst people in football.

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Hazard wasn't just costing 30million pounds he was costing around 90 million after his contract ended so all this we will not spend money is bulls**t

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Like I keep saying we may find the transfer fee but wages and agents fees are the issue , if we don't compete on them and I believe we don't then the top players will not come

Red Man

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02 Jun 2012 09:20:40
We were always going to sell him mate, expect a few others to go too.

Sydney!'""
dear mr Sydney
that's really funny
ngiak must really have a huge memory lapse
not too long ago
ngiak was certain that Norwood would be the next best thing
and a certain mr Sydney agreed he had a future in this club for sure
must be early penguin dementia
gan
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No Gan/Ngiak, I strongly disagreed with you and have always maintained he is good on the ball, great passer, freekick taker etc, but too slow and not mobile enough during the game. I also said his defensive side to his game wasn't up to scratch.

Norwood was always going to be sold as he was never going to make the grade, very similar player to Eikrem. I see Fryers, King, Wootton, Bebe, Brown, Pogba & Kiko leaving this summer. Fryers is 'apparently' close to a move to Spurs. SAF gave him an ultimatum sign or sod off. I always thought Zeki was a good local lad, but it seems when SAF gave him his chance his demeanor changed and he thought he was United's LB for the next 15 years and held all of the cards. Tyler Blackett is already a better player and two years younger so I think the manager wasn't too fussed about making an example of Zeki. This is all rumour of course, not confirmed.

Sydney!

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Thats interesting if correct about Fryers Syd, although I've not seen much of him myself

Pardoe

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Many people from united and within the game feel blackett is quicker stronger
and a better all round player than fryers

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Isn't he supposed to be big mates with Ravel and wants to go to London so they can clown around again? Thats what i heard anyway.

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Tyler Blackett is my favourite of the youth team, think he is brilliant and should be given a chance sooner than later. Guess he will play carling cup games this season.

GDS

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Fryers was given a chance, seemed to grasp it well, and then prated around to the point to which i don't think he is wanted anymore. I think Sydney is right with what he says about him. Zeki and Ravel make a great team or clowns.

RedDevil19

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02 Jun 2012 00:36:28
My source told me today that we have all but signed Nick Powell..... £4 million deal which could rise depending on success and games played etc.

Great news, he is a quality young player who won every player award at Crewe Alexandra's end of season ceremony!

Also thought id mention, lots of noise on twitter of us and Chelsea considering a bid for Dembele, what you think ed?

UNITED_LEGENDS

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I think Powell is ours, and I also think Dembele is Chelsea's. He will go with Hazard and de Bruyne and will make the new Belgian contingent at Chelsea.

RedDevil19

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02 Jun 2012 00:03:42
What colour laces does everyone Fergy will be wearing next year? Ed's, Regs, Graham? (please answer, I'm loanly)

I reacon brown.

DodgyBanter {Ed007's Note - I go for they wee zip up furry slippers you see advertised for your Gran, or just the one big one for both feet in the technical area. I fully expect a splurge on their sale during the season and viral adverts of managers sitting in dug outs with them. NIKE JUST SIT THERE....coming soon.... Tartan rugs made from recycled plastic bottles, for the 'old guy' in.......YOU! Your generation made the mess... NIKE will fix it..HONEST.}

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Haha! Loving Nike: Just Sit There! For the ageing sportsman. Was Berba sponsored by Nike last season?!

DodgyBanter

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