Manchester United Banter Archive October 02 2012

 

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02 Oct 2012 23:54:59
Same team for Newcastle except:-
Buttner in for Evra
Kagawa in for Hernandez

Agreed - Evra was very poor again. Definitely the weak link in the team.
PerthDave

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Not you Dave, but it's amazing how people are seeing his frailties now when this has been happening on a weekly basis since 2010.

Sydney!

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Evra is 'a' weak link not 'the' weak link!
RedSince68

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02 Oct 2012 23:32:41
What's with Utd's annoying habit of working the ball back to the goalkeeper from an attacking position only for de gea to give the ball away?

If we keep doing this, the better teams will punish us for it.

By the way, how bad was Evra tonight?

Andrew B

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Anyone seen henriquez play recently for us?.what's your assessment of him?.which position did he play in any of the matches he has played so far for us

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Watched him play for the under 21s at Sunderland on Monday night and he played up front
Unfortunately with defensive players going with the first team to Rumania the team was very disjointed with Macheda and King playing wide add to that the terrible weather conditions it would be unfair to judge him in what was a very poor 0-0 draw
ARB

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02 Oct 2012 23:25:11
I still won't be surprise to see ferguson's captain mr evra still prefered to buttner against newcastle.evra seems not to have the huge to defend.he just stroll and can't mark his attacking player one on one.he seem to just let them pass right past him easily.evra should not start for united,for the now,blackett has more bite defending than mr evra.who thinks evra should start ahead of buttner must be a ferguson or the big bald headed mike phelan

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02 Oct 2012 22:32:37
My thoughts on tonight...

A more solid performance overall though nothing to go overboard about. A step in the right direction at least. Most importantly 3 valuable points away from home

Evra was frightening at the back...again. Tbf he did well going forwards but I really hope we get to see more of Buttner soon

Some pluses were RVP & Rooney combo, Fletcher playing relatively well for 90 mins and Anderson and Cleverly did OK too. Hope we stick to 3 in the middle from now on!

Final point is on Rafael - he's really impressed me of late. Looks more composed but still a threat going forwards. When we finally get a settled back 4 he should really kick on again

Onto the weekend...

Gav

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Gav, if we want to use attacking fullbacks like Rafael and Buttner we will need a defensive midfielder so he can sit in between the to CB's if needed. The manager is being pretty greedy by using two attacking fullbacks and no defensive midfielder, it's the reason why we are so poor when teams break. We only have two defenders back and they are trying to cover Rafael & Evra leaving a huge hole in the middle, having a defensive midfielder would enable them to split and cover the fullback positions while the DM covers the middle. This is pretty simple stuff and it's baffling how the manager cannot see it.

Sydney!

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02 Oct 2012 22:32:19
Quick question before I go to bed - why are we still getting into this infuriating habit of going back to almost walking pace once we go a goal up?

All the energy directed at getting back into the game, then we do and then we slow it right back down, inviting teams to get a foothold back in the game again.

Utd teams of old could do this because we had the players capable of controlling the game at any pace - not now.

Keep the foot on the gas lads!


StevieK

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02 Oct 2012 22:14:37
Some interesting discussion points from tonights game. We were playing against a Pub team that we should have put to bed easily. There are those of you who said DDG wouldn't have let the goals in against Spurs well what about tonight when he goes for the ball with his feet and misses. Then there are those who said oh let Anderson and Cleverly play in the midfield which they did and they passed the ball sideways and backwards brilliantly. Did they go past a man? No. As for the Scottish player well it is good to see him feeling better but he was so off the pace of the game tonight it was embarrassing. Now I can see why Sir Alex has no choice but to play Giggs Scholes and Carrick as those 3 had the opportunity to state their claim tonight and did nothing special. Across the back 4 is just nasty and lacks any kind of leadership or bite. I just don't understand how Evra can be made Captain when he shows such lack of effort. I hate it when United play without wingers its just not our way no matter how successful it has been for other teams. A win is a win and we progress but once again it is another game when we have fallen behind and looked anything but comfortable. Someone please someone convince me I am wrong and that we are going to turn things round with this team and these players. I AM KLOOT

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Cluj are a well drilled team and I believe they will qualify past the group stages. They simply pack their defence (park the bus) then counter attack. It is very effective. With a bus parked there is no room to push forward, but will say that Cleverley had a good game and may not be the next Scholes, but he is still a decent player.

Sydney!

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I think De Gea pulled of a couple of gd saves, and from today you can see he has been working on balls into the box.

I believe he should be our no1 and should be playing most weekends

James

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Pls mr kloot stop posting stupid post like this.they played well.cruj went about defending and there was nothing we could do.we attacked well and our midfield was okay.let's wait till january when we normally pick form,then you can criticise the team or not.

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___________De Ge
Rafael_Ferdinand_Evans_Buttner
_____Anderson_Cleverley
____Nani_Rooney_Kagawa
___________RVP

That should be the starting line up against Newcastle. Obviously though, Evra will play, Scholes might play, Carrick will play, Giggs might play. We'll be terrible but probably scrape a win.

Percy

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I have never bought into this De Gea is great stuff.

IMO the bravery of a keeper is a natural thing and without it the crossing issue will never go away. Linders is far better at that and although De Gea is probably up there as the top shot stoppers I'm not overly confident in him becoming an amazing keeper.

Amazing shot stopper yes but all round keeper? Hmmm not sure.

My preference was always Adler as he is far more vocal and IMO just as good (although older).

On to the Fletch comment KLOOT.

I thought he played well. Harassed and pressed far more than anyone in the team. Even popped a few accurate passes forward when the ones in front were playing hot potato. Certainly nowhere like embarrassing, unlike Mr Evra?

Where has Evra gone in his head?

What is going on in SAF head?

Who the f**k has decided Evra fu**ing deserves that armband!!

If you haven't guessed I'm fuming he still is in our team!

He brings absolutely f**k all to the table anymore other than a guarantee there is a massive chance we will concede down his side.

Commentators during the game, at half time and even Chiles can see he is a liability of the highest order but he has our armband!

He never opens his f**king mouth! How can you lead silently! How can you lead by example when you play that bad! How can he still be a Utd player held in such esteem!

Absolute fu**ing joke Evans is getting some blame recently! He has to leave his man to put himself between his man and the guy that's just walked past Evra,,,, again!

It's not like we are talking Ronaldo here it's absolutely anyone! F**king Milner did it for England and Blanc hooked him after the first game, rightly bloody so!

Unbelievable he is still playing when he offers absolutely NOTHING!

Jono

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Jono

De Gea is 21 years old! He is starting to really improve on crosses and is shot stopping is without doubt top class. It's a matter of time before he is the best.

G.A.G.U.S

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I can see traits like the shot stopping and working on changing from punching to catching but the mentality of a brave keeper to one that's not is completely different.

IMO he doesn't have the full grasp of the communication side yet, maybe as he is young or doesn't speak English well yet I dont know but talking is the best weapon a defence and GK can have and we are used to big Pete, and Edwin screaming at our defence when they mess up. De Gea just puts his hands out like he is just going 'come on guys'

I'll admit we don't have anyone like that now. Nobody screams at others or try's to get a reaction that way, we all seem to mellow and calm. Something the whole team suffers from at the minute.

My biggest issue with De Gea is without natural bravery in going for crosses or comin fully out to close strikers down or star jump facing a player who is away to volley a shot at you he will always be one clattering challenge away from going into his hell in a game and once that happens the keeper becomes massively suspect and an easy target for opposition.

I hope he does come to fullfill his world class tag, I'm just not entirely convinced yet mate.

Jono

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02 Oct 2012 22:10:14
Sydney - I am truly honoured to get a reply from you... If you are telling me that the Glazers do not take dividends then are we to assume they are merely philanthropists?

Should we mention the well-publicised loans each of Glazer senior's children took out of United in the fairly recent past?

Puzzled
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The Glazers have cost our club millions, but have only ever taken £10m out in dividends. The £1.6m all of the Glazers took out in loans in 2009 was never paid back and this year they decided to take that as a dividend instead. So just £10m has been taken out in dividends in seven years. Don't be fooled into thinking FSG want anything other than cash out of your club in the long-run. Personally I cannot see Liverpool being a profitable club anytime soon. So plenty more penny pinching to come from FSG.

Sydney!

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02 Oct 2012 22:03:56
hi guys its zee,have been away!so did u guys watch'd ddg play he is our best no1 and anderson and cleverly are good 2 guys,if we had played with kawaga instead of chicarito we could have won 1-3 or 1-4!what do u guys think?zee:)

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02 Oct 2012 21:58:27
Did you guys notice Cleverley today?

To me he was the main player, the player with the most hunger and an actual desire to win.

He always wanted the ball, chased back, was actually the only player I kept looking at who was ALWAYS running while United were attacking. He got into brilliant positions, he also wanted others to get into positions while he was on the ball.

The best moment tonight by him would have to be when he tracked back and got in a foot forcing the ball out of play, then turned around and tried to stimulate some energy and spark into the rest of the team, almost as if he was trying to wake them up. A player like that is just amazing to have in our squad.

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Great player, being very underrated by people on here.

Percy

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02 Oct 2012 21:57:49
G.A.G.U.S is Moura really a better player then Oscar? Because if he is he must be a hell of a player!

MANRED

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I'd never really seen Oscar before he joined Chelsea, and he's impressed me. Although I would still say Moura has a little more talent.

G.A.G.U.S

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02 Oct 2012 21:56:20
Ando looked good tonight, he adds a lot to our midfield, as does Fletch and at times Clevs. Add a fully fit and settled Vidic and Smalling behind, Buttner in for Evra and Kags in for someone (Hernandez) up top and I think this team can become a very good team.


--------------DDG
Raf-----Small---Vidic----Buttner
-----Clevs---Fletch---Ando
---Rooney----RVP----Kags--

I know a lot if you slate Ando, but he needs games and I still believe he's one of our best midfielders.

Rooney RVP and Kags could become and incredible front 3 :)

DodgyBanter

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I've not been Anderson's biggest fan of late but I have to admit he adds something a little different when we play a midfield 3. He can drive forward with the ball at his feet whilst everyone else prefers to just ping it around. I like the look of your lineup too - just substitute Evans in for Vidic and we may be able to field that side within a couple weeks

Gav

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02 Oct 2012 21:53:25
1. It's hardly any surprise that theie goal came from the right. Evra is just woeful and Buttner needs to be first choice. It's a crucial position on the pitch, and the longer we stick with Evra, the longer we will continue to suffer.

2. 4-3-3 with a defensive midfielder is the system most of us want to see played. I thought it worked ok, we kept the ball well and controlled the game, but we need to get the right players to make it work. Perhaps what I suggested on Sunday, Gotze and Vidal, would be what we need?

3. Rooney was good. Looked fitter and hungrier than he did at the start of the season. Seems to work well with RVP, who scored a great second goal.

4. Sir Alex, tonight proves that David de Gea is No.1 goalkeeper. He handled every cross perfectly, and made 2 brilliant saves. He is a much better goalkeeper than Lindegaard. If you continue to treat him this way, we will lose him.

Anyway, 2 wins from 2. Hopefully we can take a step closer to getting through against Braga.

G.A.G.U.S

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Certainly agree with you about DDG

Mike

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Oddly enough, except the Gotze bit, I agree completely! Good post.

Percy

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If we got Gotze I wouldn't know how he would fit in, maybe replace wingers with CAM'S? Similar to what City do with Silva and Nasri? Gotze on the right and Kagawa on the left with Rooney in the middle would be great!

-JakeW

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G.A.G.U.S

Vidal and Cabaye mate with Fletcher behind would be perfect for us.

All three have bite and workfare and Cabaye or Vidal can provide the quality forward balls we just are not getting from CM at the minute.

Jono

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02 Oct 2012 21:53:09
jus wondering what people would rather win this season, the champs or the prem league? personally i would rather win champs league but dont think we will get either but il keep hopin for the best.

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League. Always. The league is the ultimate test of the best team of the season. You can be lucky in Champs league/FA cup, but the league is always won by the best team - yes Citeh last year.

DodgyBanter

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Definitely the league for me, the difference between us winning it back from City and them winning it twice on the bounce could be huge psychologically IMO

Gav

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I would go with the Premier league, If we won the Champions league we would scrape through every game.

-JakeW

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I would rather scrape the Premier league than win the Champions league to cover the cracks like Chelsea did last season.

Our midfield isn't a Champions league lifting formula. And I just can't imagine it tbh

ALDUtd

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02 Oct 2012 21:52:42
I just finished watching the game finding myself really bored! We're only JUST beating these these teams, I mean 1-0 against galatasary and 2-1 tonight. It's really frustrating. Why do we feel that a 1 goal cushion is enough. So at the end we are basically panic defending, holding on by our skins. Look at Chelsea 4-0! We just lack the passion and enthusiasm I am so used seeing from a team I've been watching since I was a kid. My grandad who usually loves watching utd actually fell asleep. Really?!?

Nik Legend SA

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02 Oct 2012 21:13:54
Eds any chance you could change the title from man utd rumour site to liverpool 2.0 or something because there seems to be a hell of alot of lost fans today
I also found it laughable that when we were in the europa last season it was tosh! This season liverpool fans are defending it oh the irony

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02 Oct 2012 21:44:19
If De Gea isn't in net this weekend it's an absolute joke!
It gets me how people say put Lindegaard in to deal with crosses yet he doesn't do anything different to what De Gea does. De Gea is by far the superior when it comes to shot stopping, in fact he's just a million miles better.

Big Mac

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I think the manager dropped him to make keep him on his toes and show him he needed to improve in certain areas. I agree though I think he's done enough to earn back the no. 1 spot and I wouldn't be surprised to see him given another run now. I also hope to see Buttner on the weekend for obvious reasons

Gav

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I cannot see DDG playing against Newcastle or Stoke, but perhaps once those games are over with he will get is chance. I think Lindegaard will need to make a blunder first as it would be harsh to drop him otherwise.

Sydney!

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02 Oct 2012 21:38:25
Got to be happy with that performance going forward, there's only a certain amount of things a team can do against 10 players containing the ball.

Whereas defensively we made a hash of things yet again. Evra let them in behind for the first goal even though it was a great pass through, just got to think if he didn't kick the number 99 in the head we might have a different outcome!

Glad to see a youth player having some game time aswell. At the end of the day it's 3 points, and were top by 3 now.

Hoppy

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02 Oct 2012 21:35:39
How good was de gea tonight! Caught everything and made a super save at the death!

Caolán. {Ed004's Note - still think he could have done better with the goal but I was impressed with him}

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02 Oct 2012 21:25:31
what is that about.... Hernandez off.... Kagawa or Nani on.... players that can play wide...

wellbeck is a striker... and we have 2 of those on the pitch already...

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Dude thats tactical. Fergy doesnt like tactics, actually he's quite rubbish when it comes to tactics and analysig opposition and picking players.

Mick

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Hernandez is a striker too so in other words we stuck to the same formation when Wellbeck came on. I'm not sure why we would have wanted to change things around at that point

Gav

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02 Oct 2012 21:23:57
We still continue to play our boring back passing game. It's terrible.

-JakeW

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It's terrible to watch*

-JakeW

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02 Oct 2012 21:23:09
To all you Liverpool fans who think your youth are sensational and will be world beaters well we beat them ever year.

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02 Oct 2012 21:22:55
A Liverpool reject now playing CB for you. You couldn't make this stuff up, you really couldn't..lol lol

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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Because your team is class Blair.

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In the Champions League. Amazing stroke of luck the lad's had eh?

DodgyBanter

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How did Liverpool do toni... Oh wait.

-JakeW

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A rejector of Liverpool more like.

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United wanted him and he couldn't refuse. He snubbed Liverpool to sign professional terms with us. We took Liam Jacob from you too.

Sydney!

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02 Oct 2012 21:21:15
why does fergie always wait til the 80 odd min to make a sub, nani or kags wuda added sumthing to the end to finish this off. its become our style to try win by runnin the clock down on a tight scoreline rather than bag a few goals and put games to bed, its nerverackin for the players and the fans and also boring....wheres the exciting man united gone?

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02 Oct 2012 21:20:54
I dont know where to post this but , i know anderson gets alot of stick but i truly do think if he got one good season under his belt and got in the brazil squad to show how good he can be and boost his confidence i think we could have a sensation cm i honestly do as does SAf as he spent 20+m on him and said he could be the best player in the world as you can see his class but he needs to get a good run of game 20+ in a row ... what do you think ed or has is he just lost it ? {Ed004's Note - I don't think he has lost his talent but I don't think he has the motivation required}

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02 Oct 2012 21:19:05
I don't think much to the medical advice that the players are being given at Carrington. Most of them seem to think they will come out in a nasty rash if they take the ball forward.

TK-Red

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02 Oct 2012 21:12:37
Who's playing left mid far to much space out there

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02 Oct 2012 20:57:41
De Gea is making some great saves as usual, but I bet he will get dropped on the weekend due conceding 1 goal.

-JakeW

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I think he is dropped for prem matches due to him being pathetic in the air

Pardoe

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Theres only 1 think pathetic and thats your comment pardoe,ddg has improved hugely at dealing with crosses.

phil

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02 Oct 2012 20:52:25
Great to see Fletch back, I know it's Cluj, but his positioning and composure in the middle is class, we have missed him! Nice to see Anderson getting some more action too.

Supasub

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02 Oct 2012 20:52:23
To the poster further down who wanted to drop Van Persie for being rubbish... Hang your head in shame!

Robin Robin Van Persie...


DodgyBanter

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All he does is score goals, as Dave Sexton once said after an Andy Richie hatrick , " theres more to this game than just scoring goals."
Raffa

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02 Oct 2012 20:51:07
Like I said. If RVP gets injured you will struggle badly.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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What like we struggled without RvP last season, dur.....

Sydney!

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Like we all say. If Suarez gets injured Liverpool will struggle badly. Oh wait, Liverpool is already struggling.

Nik Legend SA

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Take your "ifs" back to Liverpool blair; they have been in need of one for 20 odd years now, I'm sure they will gladly take one off you.

BornInToIt

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I shouldn't worry too much Muppet - If Liverpool manage to keep all of their players fit you will still struggle to get into the top half of the table

Marky Mark

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Blair what happens when suarez gets injured?

Caolán.

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02 Oct 2012 20:51:01
"UEFA cup is more difficult to win than the Champion's League.........lfc"

I actually let out a little bit of wee when laughing at this, ....lfc providing incontinence for the masses ;)

In a couple of years it'll be the Jonson Paint Trophey is better than the FA cup!

DodgyBanter

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02 Oct 2012 20:46:27
It makes me a bit sad to see evra playing so bad, he is a great servant but his time has passed. Cleverley looking bright.

Mick

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Cleverly is poor, a wigan player at best. i find it funny how people see what they want rather than watching what the player is really doing.

aaallj5

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02 Oct 2012 20:43:09
Seriously tho, is Evra really the best we have at left back?? In the first half he was embarrassing! He looks as if he's been eating out with Anderson. Hernandez and Evra off at half time and Buttner and Kagawa on please SAF.

An Dun Red Devil

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Evra I agree, Hernandez needs games time and Anderson I think is playing well.

Supasub

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02 Oct 2012 20:38:16
Fergie has to go how worse will he be allowed to make this squad. What manager wants to come into a squad where at least 6 players are not good enough for champs league. Evra, Giggs, Nani, Rio, Fletcher, Anderson are all past it stand fast Anderson who was always crap and now fat and crap. How can that man not see the players he has assembled are becoming a joke. No one fears playing at Old Trafford anymore its an easy ride. And please don't start banging the money drum even if money is a bit tighter are you going to tell me we couldn't get Dembele or parker before he went to spurs. Sad to say the glory days have long gone will win nothing the sea on again and will end up with Moyes at the helm with no money Liverpool he we come to battle u lot for Europa league places. Its even painful to watch now no class and no style make Wimbledon of the 80s look sophisticated. Fergie u were great but so were cd players in their day time to go please.

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Shut up. Just have minute. Third in the league. Only 6 games in. Three defenders out. Fletcher .coming back from injury. And we're playing in Romania three days after a big pl game. Just have some.faith. apart from evra. I do hate him. Ha nozzla

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You are a Silly little boy.

Anderson looks fit enough to me and should always start. Nani not good enough! Stupid comment, Fletcher coming back from such a lay off looked good. Yes Rio is getting past it but with Vidic Smalling and Jones injured he has to play to many games together
Mike {Ed004's Note - I still don't think Anderson is fit enough. Look at his physique when he first came here. He has lost that half yard of pace that made it easy for him to glide past people}

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Well ed tbh he's the only player that looked like he can dribble past a player. The whole team completed 4 dribbles ( anderson 2, rvp 2 ). Its quite disturbing to see that, we miss the days of best, giggs and cristiano.

Mick

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You have a point ed004, but I feel he needs a run of games to get him back there.
Mike

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02 Oct 2012 20:38:01
Would have been a good 1st half if it wasn't for Evra, not good defending by Ferdinand and Evans but it should never have got that far.

Red Joe

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02 Oct 2012 19:47:28
No excuses tonight - pretty much the team most of us have been looking for from those available, bar Buttner not getting on.

StevieK

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Sorry, my bad - would have had Kagawa in too.

StevieK

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02 Oct 2012 20:32:24
Evra really is rubbish

Brendan

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02 Oct 2012 20:28:57
half time

Hernandez off Nani on........

Rooney left RVP Centre.. .. Nani right.....

Give that 10/15 and then Kagawa left for either rooney or rvp...

Kagawa on the left and Nani on the right of either Rooney or RVP would give this team the balance it needs....

oxred

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02 Oct 2012 20:22:12
Fergie has clearly said to the fullbacks to not bomb forward like they usually do. Rafael and Evra are sitting back and are giving us no width right now.

-JakeW

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02 Oct 2012 20:21:54
Evra fast becoming the worse player to wear UYD jersey inching in on Giggs

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02 Oct 2012 22:39:03
Giggs?? How can any utd fan ever knock giggs?!

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02 Oct 2012 20:09:22
Been playing 20 mins now ,RVP & Hernandes not yet touched the ball , it's like playing with 9 men.
Raffa

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02 Oct 2012 20:05:51
Evra once again is at fault. And beaten round the back twice. He is woeful.

Nozzla

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02 Oct 2012 20:04:43
Ahhhh nice to see Evra leading by example!!

Fuc**ng disgrace he is even still at us never mind on the park or supposedly the best choice to 'lead' this team!

Jeezo!

Jono

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02 Oct 2012 20:04:02
Patrice Evra really is the worst left back I have ever seen in recent times... I think I would swap him for any current left back in the premier league at the minute... when somebody beats him he doesn't even try and recover he just jogs in... Get him out the club as quick as possible, FERGIE I BEG YOU SELL HIM

RedKnight

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02 Oct 2012 20:01:54
Evra just doesn't want to play does he?

-JakeW

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02 Oct 2012 20:01:09
Wow, our defense is absolutely shocking! What was evans doing? Both defenders should have closed him down. There was absolutely no pressure from anyone else.

Nik Legend SA

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02 Oct 2012 19:59:46
Guess what patrice evra again! Im sorry he is useless

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02 Oct 2012 19:59:29
I actually would say that we are playing our best midfield (would be better if Fletcher was fully fit). I am also very glad to see us play a 4-3-3 which I feel is the formation we will need to go with. It also probably means that we don't need to pay top whack for a Nani repalcement as two wingers and Ince or someone would be good.

As I'm writing this Cluj have just scored. Once again from the left handside, why are we not playing Buttner?! Ferdinand and Evans were so far out of position its rediculous. We aren't going to win anything this season if we can't keep Vidic and Smalling fit.

Fresh!

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02 Oct 2012 19:59:13
NOW.... will have the bulls to drop Evra......

we will see.......

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02 Oct 2012 19:59:00
broke down the left again....wake up fergie why didnt u play buttner

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02 Oct 2012 19:13:58
Love tonight's line up.

I would have played butter instead of evra.

If it works fergie has to stick with it.

Williams13

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I think anderson and rooney ate all the butter, so fergie couldn't play it.

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The way they are playing and they did the same in their first game... why is hernandez playing instead of kagawa???

one would be ideal for breaking up a tight defence.. the other good at running at a defence that holds a high line........

head scratching again AND evra please pick up that virus for the weekend...

Oxred

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I can't believe it's not Butter :)

Ports

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And Kagawa instead of hernandez.... he ruins the shape....

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02 Oct 2012 19:12:09
Liverpool fan coming here in peace. There have been a lot of posts by Blair on this page, and I know he will read this, as he is addicted to this page. Basically, what I wanted to say is...GET THE HELL BACK ON OUR PAGE GODDAMNIT!

Piledriver

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02 Oct 2012 18:59:02
gotta love blairs banter even thought he is a complete moron. keeps the site entertaining tho

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02 Oct 2012 18:58:31
team tonight is strong.

-----------------De Gea----------
Rafael-Ferdinand-Evans-Evra

--Cleverley--Fletcher--Anderson

---------------Rooney-------------

----------RVP------Chicharito-----

4-3-1-2 This formation was tested in pre-season and against Newcastle and again tonight, maybe fergie is slowly intergrating the team into a new shape instead of 4-4-2

RedKnight

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02 Oct 2012 18:55:51
I see today that Michel Platini has announced new rules to the game of football. From now on if you win one game against Norwich it means that you are the best team in the land and automatically should be entered for the Champions League. it also means your manager is a tactical genius even though he couldn't beat the worse United team in years. The rest of the league has been blind to the brilliance of this tactical genius and squad. The FA will be making a special trophy for beating Norwich which is the same as winning the league. How stupid have we all been laughing our heads off at Liverpool as they struggle around at the bottom of the league when all the time we didn't realise if you beat Norwich you are great. I bet they have the tee shirts printed already and Blaire will be wearing his down the pub. I AM KLOOT

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Absolutely.

Supasub

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I haven't mentioned our victory against once on this page RFT. But I was pretty impressed by our play, movement, work rate and finishing (about time).

Was also very impressed with our B teams fantastic performance against WBA, during the week.

Thanks for bringing it up...

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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Brilliant kloot!

Caolán.

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I stand up and clap repeatedly, great post Kloot

Big Mac

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Very droll KLOOT

Puzzled

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02 Oct 2012 21:03:49
You know what RFT. Have seen countless posts ridiculing these clowns, but have to say this. Your posts absolutely own these muppets...

LMAO @ The new trophy and printed TEEs.

Superb..

Deeps

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02 Oct 2012 18:47:13
Referee Chris Foy has been demoted to league 2 fixtures this weekend. I guess when Sir Alex throws his toys out the pram the good old FA is right there to give him his bottle. What a baby! But you guys are right, definitely no favoritism towards United, not at all.
Ezdee

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Halsey on the other hand who had a much worse performance in the Liv vs Utd match last week was still working in the PL this past weekend. I guess cuz United won.
The proof is there, you can't make this chit up.
Ezdee

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Which decision do you think Halsey got wrong? I think he got every decision spot on, as did your ex player mark lawrenson on match of the day. You sound so bitter, it's hilarious.

GDS

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02 Oct 2012 18:46:26
ManUtd XI: De Gea, Rafael, Evans, Ferdinand, Evra, Fletcher; Anderson, Cleverley; Rooney, Chicharito, RvP

G.A.G.U.S

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Im happy with this...
but it would have been nice seeing buttner start...
looking forward to the game..

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This is the 11 I'd go with as our first team but I'd have Kagawa rather than Chicharito

Big Mac

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02 Oct 2012 17:57:57
Bloody hell the majority of posts on here are from liverpool fans. I havent seen many posts on here from them since the season started and then lo and behold they get 3 points from a team with second season syndrome and there all over the place. All I will say is every village has one and it must be their turn to use the village laptop. Bookedredmole

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02 Oct 2012 17:56:24
Man United Vs Spurs

Match 6 of the season, Spurs won after two decades against us and that too at OT, no doubt Spurs is a very good team with some serious talent but we should not have allowed them to just waltz past our midfield and defense in the first half, second half was altogether a different scenario. Spurs were allowed to attack well in the first half but then with a bit of luck defended well. Fortune favours the brave, as it is said.

Once again flaws in midfield were exposed, Giggs was just a stroller on the park, Nani though scored a goal and apart for a few passes to Rooney and RVP was just a waste of space on the field. Charrick except for the pass to Kagawa that led to the goal was mostly running around in circles, Rafa and Evra were no match for Bale and Lennon when they made their runs down the wings and above all Rio just looked like fish out of water against the fast moving Spurs attackers, but I don't blame Rio for it, he has served well thus far and at 33 Fergie should have replaced him a couple of years a ago (when C Ballamy made a mickey out of him from the half-line.

Fergie has certainly not learnt from his last season's selections mishaps and still acts hot headed when it comes to trying out our younger talent, him sticking with Lindergard in goal is still shocking, I am sure if DeGea was in goal for the Spurs match he would have saved at least one or two goals and we could have won that mach or at the very least drawn it. De Gea is one of the best shot stoppers in world football today, yes he is weak against high crosses but how can he improve without game time ?

Wootton or M Keane and Buttner should have played in defense against Spurs, even then if we had lost we could deal with it as we had played with a couple of youngsters. Did Fergie really think that Rio, Evans and Evra could contain Bale and Lennon ?
Yes, we played well in the second half once Rooney came on, he was everywhere and his crosses were really good, he missed a few shots by a few inches and the freekick that hit the upright was cruel, it surely was to be our day especially the way we played in the second half, RVP too was off colour and missed a few and the tackle from Galas should have been a penalty but we shouldn't rely on such to win games.

Plenty of negatives (1st half) and positives (2nd half), to take from our last game and learn from the mistakes and try to rectify them in the coming games. Hope to see an energetic team against the Magpies. CL could be tough tonight. All the best to our team. - Fred

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02 Oct 2012 17:41:16
so Blair you reckon United domination of english football is over and who is meant to take over? only Man City are the real threat,Spurs and Arsenal are noway near domination anything just waiting for January when AVB loses control of the squad,Arsenal will continue to lose players over the coming years so who is meant to be dominating Blair?

SALFORD RED

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Certainly not liverpool

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Chelsea or Man.City. They have the funds others don't.

Money means success. United have been the big senders/attraction in past years but not now. Just ask, Nasri, Hazard, Mikel, etc, etc, etc...who all turned you down.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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Hi blur, we actually sold Mikel without him kicking a ball what a great move that was.

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02 Oct 2012 17:37:12
My team tonight would be :

DDG
Raffael Evans Ferdinand Evra

Fletcher
Cleverley Anderson

Nanni Rooney Wellbeck


No RVP you may have noticed, well up to now he's been garbage appart from the Southampton game and i feel that at present to get the best out of Kagawa we should be playing him only once a week.

Raffa

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02 Oct 2012 18:24:45
5 goals but he's garbage, well i'm excited for when he at least hits average....

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Never mind when he hits average what an we expect at top form 6 a game?

Caolán.

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02 Oct 2012 17:31:04
My friend seems to think that Fredy Guarin would be a suitable midfielder for us. I've never heard of him but he is supposed to be a very strong box to box player who can pass fairly well and can do some work defensively. He is also supposed to have a cracking shot. Anyone seen him play or know if this is true? He plays for Inter at the moment so if we had any interest, which i doubt, I don't think we would have to break the bank for him.

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He's a good player but I think he's only been at Inter 1 season.

Supasub

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02 Oct 2012 17:14:36
On the subject of youth, what has happened to the Fergie that played a massively youth side to win the title in '95? The Fergie that brought young Macheda on for a must win game against Aston Villa a few years ago? Is it just too high risk these days?

Hoppy

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I think we would of seen Will Keane this season. He came on against Blackburn Rovers & could of scored.

TJ

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02 Oct 2012 18:27:13
That was nearly 20 years ago, you answered your own question.

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If you know your history Hoppy you might have known we didn't win anything in 95. I AM KLOOT

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02 Oct 2012 16:38:20
Just do as I do and laugh at the scousers infecting our page atm. They've only come out to play as their team finally managed a win against a team that hasn't won a game all season and had only scored TWO goals until they played Liverpool. Norwich managed to score as goals against Liverpool as they had in all of their previous FIVE games.

We're Third in the league and are very unhappy about it, do you think the scousers would feel the same if they were third in the league?.......No they'd be ecstatic about it, which tells you all you need to know about these small minded has beens.

Just smile and ignore their blatant atempts to feel like actually rivals rather than relegation candidates.

Shappy

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02 Oct 2012 17:40:35
SHAPPY, is everything okay mate, you dont seem yourself today , i mean this is the first post i have read of yours that is under 24 long , long paragraphs-long lol...........lfc

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Aww thanks for the concern there lfc, i'm fine, just see little need to go into to much detail about trolls and trolling. Lol. Other than that i'm just getting ready to watch my team compete in the UCL tonight and don't have as much time spare atm.

Shappy

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02 Oct 2012 16:32:00
How long does petrucci have on his contract
Jred

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He signed for 3yrs. He might end up regretting that, a few Italian teams showed an interest as he was highly rated at 15-16. Now it seems Powell, Lingard & Tunnicliffe might have jumped the que.

TJ

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Not long i hope.

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02 Oct 2012 16:20:13
Beside moaning here for days, months, years, is there any practical way to do to prevent that stubborn old man ruin this season of United and destruct the confident of those new coming talents and youngsters with pathetic line ups and out dated tactics?
Anybody with feasible proposals? I mean which can reach and shake those managements.

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02 Oct 2012 16:14:02
Notwithstanding McMoan's complaint about being short-changed in the 'added-time department' against Spurs, I think it would be a kindness to your aged players if all games were played over just 60 minutes.
Whilst we are at it perhaps we could make the pitches both shorter and narrower, better suited to those in their dotage

Puzzled

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Give up trying to banter puzzled,your awful at it.

phil

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Phil - but not bad at spelling and grammar- you mean you're

Puzzled

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Hmmm, good effort (or not) Puzzled. Or perhaps we could just base the PL season on just 1 game rather than 38 so that your lonesome win against Norwich could actually count for something...

Gav

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Are you warming to me Gav?

Puzzled

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Let's just say your dillusion intrigues me, Puzzled

Gav

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02 Oct 2012 15:36:07
I see a LOT of moans on here about how things are with your squad and indeed the starting eleven...these have been the same problems for the past three seasons at least. Nothing is being done! Why??
McBluster is a spent force and cannot now cut it in the premiership - as long as he remains in charge the downward spiral will continue. It has been slow up to this point, but trust me the pace will quicken.
It seems crazy that because the top man is too weak to 'have a chat' with your manager and because the owners are interested only in their dividends you will carry oin in this way until Ferguson ( or his God) decides that enough is enough.
In what other business (and do not pretend that this is not a business) would this be allowed to continue?

Puzzled

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Puzzled,

The one thing you have come and said of any sense, perhaps in your whole lifetime is that Football is a business and sadly you are correct.

Richest Clubs 2012 according to Forbes:

#1 Manchester United - Value $2.23 Billion
#2 Real Madrid - $1.88 Billion
#3 Barcelona - $1.31 Billion
#4 Arsenal - $1.29 Billion
#5 Bayern Munich - $1.23 Billion
#6 Ac Milan - $989 Million
#7 Chelsea - $761 Million
#8 Liverpool - $619 Million

Just so you know, our Value is over 3 x as much as your value!

Even in this League, Liverpool aren't good enough for a Champions League spot!

Ports

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Ports - in what way does your post answer my post?

Puzzled

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Puzzled,

Good to see you living up to your name!

You said that in brackets ''and do not pretend that this is not a business''

I've mearly shown that as a Business, Manchester United are the most valuable which means they are obviously doing something right?

In football you need to be successful to make money which means investing in the team and staying ahead of the competition.

Caught up yet sweety?

Ports

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Puzzled, why do you suggest FSG bought Liverpool? To make money of course.

You say that the Glazers only want dividends, how much have they taken in seven years?

Sydney!

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Sydney - I am truly honoured to get a reply from you... If you are telling me that the Glazers do not take dividends then are we to assume they are merely philanthropists?

Should we mention the well-publicised loans each of Glazer senior's children took out of United in the fairly recent past?

Puzzled

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Ports - yes even I can see that I mentioned business and then you mention business - well done. You will however have noticed that the crux of the post was about McBluster's inability or unwillingness to correct glaring problems in your squad. Problems which even United posters can spot - so they are glaringly obvious. You decided not to refer to that main point of the post and clutched at straws

Puzzled

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02 Oct 2012 15:05:07
good grief , in years gone-bye you could always put utd down on your bookie docket for a win in the early stages of the c.l , now you cant , what do utd fans think, should i go for a 2-1 defeat or a 3-1 defeat , many thanks..............lfc

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Lfc - I looked down bookies boards and can't see Liverpool fixture in CL, just remind me who they are playing so I can bet 4-1 defeat for them, should be at least even money.

Yougottalaugh

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Lfc,

At least we get to bet on our team in Champions League Stages :)

What time you lot kick off off on the Cartoon Network on Thursday?

Ports

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02 Oct 2012 16:39:04
PORTS, the thing is when you look at the ufea cup , many think it can be harder to win than the champions leauge , so yes your in the best leauge , well for the group-stage anyway , but the ufea cup is still great to win , and lets be honset ports utd have as much chance of winning it as anderson has of sticking to his diet..............lfc

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Cluj are 9/2 lfc mate. I'm sticking £50 on them to win minus a goal.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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Lfc,

Just so you are aware, last time you boys were in Champions League, 2009-2010, what stage you go out? Group stage behind Fiorentina and Lyon!

Also, I wouldn't worry to much about winning the UEFA Cup, more chance of
Andy Carroll staying sober on a night out and having a successful career!

Ports

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Lfc - "the ufea cup is still great to win"

I bet you were saying that last season too ; ) Still, it's always about 'next season' with you guys isn't it!

Blair - good luck with the bet...but if you wanted to just throw away £50 you should try going to Anfiled once in a while!

Gav

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02 Oct 2012 15:00:27
What Bliar tends to forget about when comparing our youth players with theirs is that our youths WON the FAYC in 2011 on the way beating a Liverpool team, at Anfield I may add, that had the likes of Suso, Sterling, Coady et al in it. Also, the following year an almost entirely different team, but for Blackett and Van Velzen, were runners up against Chelsea.

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Is that the same Chelsea team our U21's stuffed in the U21 PL match 4-1 last week? Incase you need reminding mate we are unbeaten and top of our U21 league. Which consists of City, Chelsea etc...

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Ps. How many of your FAYC winners have made an appearance for the 1st team?

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Blair - my nan could have made an appearance for Liverpool this season your squad is that bare, so it's hardly a fair comparison (I wasn't the OP btw)

Gav

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02 Oct 2012 14:52:41
Without trying to read too much into the press, it really does seem as though there is a strong possibility that we will see Tom Ince at the club in January. He would not be by any means my first choice, but hopefully he could have the same impact of the OX. If we could also get Strootman and Ince it would not be a bad January. I also think that we could get Silvestre though - might be a good move while we have an injury crisis, however what sort of message does it send out to the younger players like Wooton, Keane and Veseli?

Fresh!

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02 Oct 2012 18:31:50
Veseli isn't good enough so not really bothered what he thinks buit Silvestre would be an absolute disaster for Keane and Wooten, we sold him ages ago as he was no longer good enough, i remember him getting an absolute slating on fan sites like this, talk about a step backwards.

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02 Oct 2012 14:39:00
Listen ladies.

The reason you have the privilege of my company, in the past few days. Is because I'm layed up with the flu so thought id call in and see how my loyal followers were doing.

Disney

Hernandez is the best poacher in the game? Better than Gomez, Lewandowski, Falcao, Cavani, Benzema, Soldado, Di Natali, Neymar, etc, etc, etc.....lol

If he is the best, why isn't he starting every week?

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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Maybe because not 1 of them is a poacher, moron

coombesy

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Lol out of all of those mentioned,not 1 is a goal poacher,come back when you know what your talking about silly boy.

phil

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Go easy on Blair guys, if you're a Liverpool fan (disturbing thought I know) it's hard to know what a good goal poacher is as they haven't had one for years

Gav

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02 Oct 2012 14:37:31
DO THE REFS NOT KNOW THE RULES ANYMORE AT OLD TRAFFORD.
1/ if man utd are winning a game , a absolute maximun of 3 minutes will be played, even if there has been lots of injurys and subs, under no circumstances can this be borken.
2/ if man utd are drawing a match , a minimum of 5 minutes should be played , even if theres been no breaks in play and no injurys or subs.
3/ if god forbid man utd are losing a match after 90 mins , a minimum of 7 minutes will be played , which is only right and proper , as it is old trafford after all, fergie is right.how do utd have a chance to win otherwise.
who the hell do this refs think they are by trying to be fair and descent , its not right.
ps , old trafford used to be a fortress , but now teams just waltz in and take 3 points- easy-peasy , o how the times have changed lol...............lfc

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Didnt we just 'waltz right in and take 3 points ' from anfield 10 days ago. stupid post from a stupid deluded liverpool fan!!

Coombesy

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Post of the day. Keep up the great work lfc mate....

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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02 Oct 2012 16:03:04
combesty , even liverpool find it hard-going when its 10- aganist 12 men on the field, but i am looking forward to playing at old-trafford later-on in the season, our side is just getting better and better, dont think utd are mate..............lfc

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02 Oct 2012 16:07:17
cheers blair, if we dont post here , there would be no intelligent chit-chat at all , only the doom and gloom of the utd fans going on about thier team lol ..............lfc

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Transfer deadline day killed the Liverpool fans, that was when they finally realised their club doesn't have a pot to p1ss in. The EPL will be a struggle for Liverpool for many years to come. You will finish between 6th-10th for the next decade with only Europa football to look forward too if you are lucky. Champions League will be a pipe dream and as soon as one or two of your youth players are fully blooded a big team will come in and take them. Get used to mediocrity because you will be settling for it for another 23 years.

Sydney!

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02 Oct 2012 17:55:20
sydney, stop whaffling , if you must join in with the banter , make it smart, or funny , your losing your touch mate, hey a bit like the utd team lol...............lfc

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"if you must join in with the banter , make it smart, or funny"

what's wrong with making it realistic once in a while lfc? well said Syd, very accurate too IMO. LFC: the next great feeder club

Gav

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02 Oct 2012 14:03:23
To our beloved friend Blair Mayne,

As much as I love your inept & translucent banter, it is becoming quite apparent that you almost spend more time on our site than your own?

Are you like a young George Michael, desperately & fervently trying to hide from the real man in the closet? The over zealous Liverpool love a pseudonym for a pure love of Man Utd?

There is a light in the closet Blair....move towards my friend & join the real reds.

Kindest Regards

Moog

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Watch it Blair - this Moog admirer sounds like someone to avoid

Puzzled

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Admirer? Pah. Polar opposite.

Besides Puzzled you 2 seem quite cosy...

Moog

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02 Oct 2012 13:57:33
I was thinking that maybe Blair YAWN only gets on here when the white coats let out and give him access to the day room. But then more come on - are they only encouraged by YAWN or maybe their benefits cheque has come and they can buy a few minutes of internet access ?

Anyone has any other theories?

Mike

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Blair YAWN, that's hilarious. wooooohooooo.

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02 Oct 2012 15:06:32
Mike...

I think Blairs landed himself a job after all. His organisation is called "Potential Trolls Inc".

15 days and you are a certified troll or your monies back.

I can see LFC has passed with flying colors.

Deeps...

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02 Oct 2012 12:56:18
It's hardly going to be difficult breaking into the Liverpool side now is it?

Wafer thin squad and very few good players. Liverpool are now a mid-table club.

Sydney!
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Still think you've got better kids to bring through than us Disney?

Do you still think that Hernandez is 'World class'?

Do you still think that your squad will 'dominate for years to come?

Do you still think that Cleverly is 'world class'?

Do you still think that Nani is 'world class'?

Do you still think that Wellbeck is the future for England?

And are you still a pelican?

Come on buddy, these questions need to be answered.....

Cheers

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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Blair you have been silent for weeks up until you win a game at Norwich. You're presence and opinions on here are neither appreciated nor valid.

TK-Red

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02 Oct 2012 13:59:02
Blair, Hernandez is a good squad player, just like Solskjaer was.
You guys have some great youth coming through, and I really do like Suso, he looks great. Stirling, Morgan, Yesil, Kelly (when not injured) Coates and Wisdom all look like they have great futures too.

We currently have Cleverley, Welbeck and Hernandez who at the very least will make great squad players for us for quite a few years. We have Rafael, Jones and Smalling, De Gea, Powell who are showing great promise, but what excites me more are players like Daelhi, Blackett, Henriquez, Van Velzen and Januzaj who are all real talents too.

We aren't doing too badly for youth at all. Don't worry about us.

Whistler.

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Yes.

Never did, but best poacher in the game.

Once completed.

Never did, but still a top quality player.

On his day he is unplayable.

Welbeck will be an England player for many years.

Are you still nailing my sister?

Sydney!

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Blair

Yes our domination has come to a end lets be honest with arsenal, city, chelsea, spurs theres prob going to be no domminance for any team. Yes we have spent 100mill but so did you. Tbh i dont think theres many players in the prem that are world class so no clev and hernandez arent world class.but i noticed down the page you were pitting clev against shelvey and suso and saying there better. I have to admit you make me giggle you were pitting him against spearing last season and saying how world class he was. I think its quite obvious if you read our posts we realise we have problems as do liverpool. But unlike you blair some of us see our own teams problems not just bleat on about how were on the slide and your on the up.i hope liverpool are on the up again it makes the prem more exciting. May stop you from whinging on here!
Red dev

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Do united fans pester liverpool's page like this too?
or is it always the jealous..?

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Question 1 - Pettruci, Blackett, Wootton, Johnstone, Keane Bothers, 16 yr old Wilson, Lingard, Van Velzen, Cole, Tunnicliffe, Brady, Pereira, Daehli, Januzaj to name a few, so yes is the answer to that question.

Question 2 - Hernandez has scored 26 in 41 for Mexico which is not a bad record when you compare to let's say Suarez who you deem world class who has 28 in in 54 games!

Question 3 - Well the youngsters named plus with Smalling, Jones, Kagawa, Henriquez, Welbeck, Hernandez and Powell, there is no reason to not be able to dominate the Premier League in 2 years time.

Question 4 - Cleverley can't be classed as World Class, YET. However he is representing his country and compared to Shelvey let's say, he has the potential to go on and be world class, let's hope he fulfills it.

Question 5 - Nani has all the ability in the World but will always be inconsistent, at United Ronaldo became World Class, unfortunately Nani does not have the same drive but if his attitude changes then he would be.

Question 6 - Name an England Striker at the moment that could/should start ahead of him, maybe Defoe on current form but Bent can't get in the Villa team, Carroll couldn't even get in to your team so YES Welbeck has a future with England.

Question 7 - Don't know if Pelicans can use the Internet?

So Blair,

Q1 - Sterling and then???
Q2 - Is Suarez the prolific goal scorer Liverpool desperately need?
Q3 - Have you got the Squad and can you attract the players to get in a champions league spot on a regular basis?
Q4 - Is Shelvey your replacement for Gerrard? (Let's for your sake hope not!)
Q5 - What happens to Rodgers if you finish 8th again or even lower?
Q6 - Does your £35 Million pound striker have a future with England? Or even more to the point, with Liverpool?
Q7 - How come United have been so poor for the last 2 years and still managed to stay so far ahead of Liverpool?

Come on buddy, these questions need to be answered.....

Cheers

Ports

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Hurt my head just trying to read that Ports mate. Get back to me when this flu has cleared up.

Then you can have 1st question at my press conference.

Cheers

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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I wouldn't go anywhere near your sister Disney mate.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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02 Oct 2012 15:31:49
i suppose its still better than signing asbeens on free transfers
y.n.w.a

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Sterling, suso, wisdom, coates, sama, robinson, kelly, allen, adorjan, yesil, ngoo, sinclair, baio, shelvey, smith to name a few.

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Hope you feel better soon Blair, let me know when your first press conference is and I'll check my diary, as long as it's not in Liverpool, you know us United fans can go any where near Liverpool unless United are playing there :)

Ports

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Thanks for your concern Ports mate, will do.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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Wow Blair you really pu$$ied out of answering those Q's....not like you ; )

Gav

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02 Oct 2012 12:42:24
jame rodriguez is definetly coming to united............either benatia or dede in january

ft9

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02 Oct 2012 12:32:06
In-case you haven't noticed it's Fergie that is rebuilding this squad for the new manager. Next season should be the final season of transition. Youth should be blooded and all positions should be revitalised. If we had a sugar daddy this transition could have been complete within one summer, but being a self sufficient club that does not rely on outside monies and believes in using the club's youth, it's going to take three summers and when the manager is finished with his 'project' the new manager will inherit a very young and talented squad. This IMO is the biggest challenge of the manager's career. Trying to rebuild and challenge for honours.

Sydney!
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You've been singing this same tune for 2 years now Disney. He's spent 100mill in 10 months and you're best youth (Pogba/Morrison) have left you.

Seriously mate. United are not getting better you are getting worse. You're period of dominating English football has come to an end, just like ours did.

Why don't you just admit it?

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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There is only one team in severe decline here mate and it isn't United.

Sydney!

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Sydney, we may not be in 'severe' decline, but unfortunately we are in decline.

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02 Oct 2012 12:13:07
Sir Alex Ferguson says Anderson is unlucky not to have played more football for Manchester United this season, having impressed on the Reds' summer tour.

The Brazilian midfielder has started just two of the team's eight competitive fixtures in 2012/13 – against Fulham in August and in last week's Capital One Cup match against Newcastle United, a game in which he found the net and topped ManUtd.com's Man of the Match poll.

But it's the form of others that's limiting the 24-year-old's involvement at the moment, according to the United manager.

THE FORM OF THE OTHERS....

f**k we are doomed...

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He also said that there was no room to fit him in when we play with two wide men. This to me is very worrying, it shows that the management has no intention of changing formation or tactics. This is a huge worry as I feel it is our tactics more than our personel that is holding us back.

Shappy

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"others" - I presume means Scholes.?

Mike

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What is really worriying is the lack of taactical approach, just pick players on current form. Its not like scholes is 37, carrick is 31 and neither is fast nor physical enough to stand up to the likes of dembele and sandro or to deal with the pace of bale and lennon so anderson and cleverley would be a better bet. We pick players on current form not on tactical reasons. And this is simply unacceptable.

Mick

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02 Oct 2012 11:31:39
@Red Man

I agree that playing ageing players is a concern, but you have to look at it from both sides. You talk about Ferdinand and Vidic being over 30 but their replacements in Jones and Smalling are injured. There is nothing we can do about that but wait till they get fit.

Evra is past it and we have brought in Buttner who looks promising. So it is not as if SAF does not want to replace him.

Scholes will retire at the end of the season we know that. Giggs is the only real problem for me. We need to replace him as early as possible and he needs to retire at the end of the season. We need to wait till at least January to see what we do.

I think you will agree that the next two windows (January and the summer) will be crucial for us and we need to get in a left sided midfielder and a midfielder who are both quality and will hit the ground running.

But most importantly, for me, we need a new no.2 under sir alex and things will be a lot better.

REDFAITH

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While I agree with what you say, we have been saying "the next transfer window will be crucial for us" for nearly 2 years now and whilst we have brought in some quality players who will benefit the long term future of the club, we haven't brought in what the player we've needed for a while now.

TK-Red

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REDFAITH

I agree on LM, CM even a CB and the no2 but this has been obvious for a while

It is not the next two windows that we should look at but ask why this was not sorted out by the manager in the last two.

Red Man

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One thing i have got to say is i did not understand the Ashley Young buy. Especially at that price. Even Phil Jones to an extent.

REDFAITH

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REDFAITH, exactly, no one can say the manager has not been given money. Where the cash is spent is purely down to the manager and if he hasn't bought the right players or for the right position then the blame can only lay with the manager.

Sydney!

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02 Oct 2012 10:56:48
Blair?

Are you some kind of a closet Man United supporter who believes that criticism is the best way to motivate the team? .. I mean the only site that you post is in the United forum. I barely see your posts in the Liverpool section when i decide to check the relegation threatened teams forum.

Banter is always welcome, but seriously 14th in the league? Fresh from a heroic victory over bottom of the league Norwich? Two teams have a game in hand over you? And then bring a few of your fellow trolls and get into the act of agree/disagree. Lol , i wonder how old are you guys seriously?

You are a mid/low table EPL team. I wont be surprised if you go the Leeds way. Spend a little more time debating on Liverpool's victory on your forum, you never know how far is your next win?

And You Will Never Walk Alone. Always have the QPR and Norwich fans walking with you all the way to the mighty championship! May be next year is the year? ..

Deeps...

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Oops!

Looks like someone got out of the wrong side of his bunkbed today, eh Deeps?

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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Blur, some people are lucky enough to have a ladder on either side of their bunk bed, obviously you wouldn't know because ikea doesn't show you that and you can't fit a bunk bed in a mid terrarc council house.

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02 Oct 2012 12:55:24
Still on here mate? .. Thats a little sad. Are you talking about the bunkbed you and your fellow trolls were sleeping on?

Careful mate, the amazing 'Pool victory over Norwich city is so damn huge, it may take you, your friends and the bunkbed down.

P.S - We knocked you off your f**kin bunkbed. LOL

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02 Oct 2012 10:24:14
Hi Lads. I think that i am on the correct site judging by the names of posters that i recognise from my regular visits to the Liverpool site. 1st visit here just to see what its like. Just wondering why you lot continue to post on the liverpool site. Are you more concerned with Liverpool than your own team? What is getting into you? You always used to have great support for your own team but now you seem to be more concerned at how other teams are performing. Time to give your heads a good shake and get back to doing what you used to do best. On a more serious note, Thanks for your support over the Justice for the 96 campaign. It could have been you or any other team. We will never get rid of a few persons who revel in other people,s misfortunes but to the vast majority of you, thanks again. Like it or like it not, we are 2 big clubs and the rivallry will allways be there. Anyway good luck for the future (not too much eh) and keep your eyes on Chavski this season.
Robbie

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So to complain about people posting on a Liverpool BANTER site, you have decided it is sensible to post on a United site? Oh irony indeed!!

GDS

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02 Oct 2012 09:57:06
Hi Lads. I think that i am on the correct site judging by the names of posters that i recognise from my regular visits to the Liverpool site. 1st visit here just to see what its like. Just wondering why you lot continue to post on the liverpool site. Are you more concerned with Liverpool than your own team? What is getting into you? You always used to have great support for your own team but now you seem to be more concerned at how other teams are performing. Time to give your heads a good shake and get back to doing what you used to do best. On a more serious note, Thanks for your support over the Justice for the 96 campaign. It could have been you or any other team. We will never get rid of a few persons who revel in other people,s misfortunes but to the vast majority of you, thanks again. Like it or like it not, we are 2 big clubs and the rivallry will allways be there. Anyway good luck for the future (not too much eh) and keep your eyes on Chavski this season.
Robbie

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It's your fans that are always on here..

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02 Oct 2012 09:55:58
Fergie on Nani

"Nani is not the type to dive," said the United boss. "He has never been that type of player"

Come on now ladies. Even you have to agree, the old man is losing it.

What a pelicanhead....

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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Brenda. Rodgers said Suarez doesn't go down easy. He's totally list his marbles.

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Perhaps you can enlighten us on when Nani has dived on all these occasions that get him the name of a serial diver, Blair? Try doing it without Google eh?

TK-Red

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02 Oct 2012 09:48:26
I am very much looking forward to tonight's game. There is no Giggs, Scholes or Carrick. IF evra is rested as well and Buttner is played we could finally see what we can do with a fully energetic side. I hope we play a 4-3-3 with Powell, Cleverley and Anderson in midfield and Rooney Kagawa Rvp/Chicha/Welbeck making the front 3.

REDFAITH

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Well Kloot, GAGUS, Redman etc have got what they wanted. No Giggs, Scholes or Carrick. Lets see how well the boys perform tonight. I expect a stream of criticism in the morning as it seems that all people do these days is tear strips of the manager and players.

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The change may be too extreme from one position to another with too little experience but let us hope they can cope. I believe we know the issues with the players but if we do come unstuck tonight then it will only add focus to recent transfer activity or the quality of it in key areas

Red Man

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02 Oct 2012 09:16:53
Problems, problems, problems, we all see them & nothing gets done about it.

Did we need to invest in a defender?
Did we need to be an enforcer in midfield?
Do we need a left footed winger?
Do we need to ask Carlos back for the third time?

Thing is it's October, so we're stuck with what we've got.
Buying in January is difficult. Gone are the days of finding golden nuggets like Vidic & Evra. It seems to be more like DeLaet, Tosic, Diouf & Vaseli that come in & don't get a sniff of first team football or get loaned out. So forget M'Vila & Strootman we won't splash that kind of cash in January plus Moutinho will complete his move to Spurs 20m.

Everyone's got high hopes for a youth system. Thing is we have Chelsea next in the COC so that MIGHT be the last we see of them if we get knocked out.

Brady had a knock against Sunderland but I think he'll be loaned very soon.

M.Keane & Tunnicliffe will be shipped out on loan soon also.
I don't think teams will take a chance on Lingard or Cole because of their hight & strength.

I don't know what the Coaches or Sir Alex has planned for Petrucci, he's highly rated & was competing for a place on the bench near the end of last season. Buying Powell has now shoved him back to just Captaining the u21's & not even getting a sniff against Newcastle in the COC.

So everyone complaining about stuff will just have to keep complaining because u can't teach a old dog new tricks.
Especially a super Sir stubborn one.

Carrick will still slot in at CB when needed.
Evra will play even if he gets ripped a new one ev game.
Carrick, Scholes & Giggs will slow our play.
Carrick will pass sideways & backwards.
Our defenders WILL keep getting injured.
Anderson will be blowing thru his arse on 70mins.
Mike Phealan will either fall asleep or bite his name.
Fergie will blame insufficient injury time.
Nani will keep hitting the first man on corners.
Keepers will keep swapping from playing to benched.
Nani's contract will keep running down & we'll lose a player ala Arsenal style.
Glazer's will keep taking from our (BUY A MIDFIELDER SAVINGS) petty cash.
No urge to replace Rio, Giggs & Scholes anytime soon.

TJ

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02 Oct 2012 09:13:18
Don't know if anyone watched the preview to Monday night football, but Garry Neville was on and was analysing our tactics, or the lack of them!
He is extremely tactically aware and was completely right in his analysis.
Shame that he is sat in a tv studio while we've got that complete tit, mike phelan as an assistant. Why hasn't ferguson approached gazza to become our assistant manager. He is passionate and very aware, non of these are displayed by phelan.
Please ferguson stop being stubborn and change the staff and system now before we end up with nothing again this year.
NoMidfield

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Maybe he feels Neville would be TOO firm with his opinions. Mike Phelan is a yes man and there is no other reason he's sat at SAF's side. Sadly, with the manager entering his final season (IMO), he's not likely to give up complete power to a more headstrong number 2.

RED_SKY

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02 Oct 2012 08:07:03
A lot of weird dislikes on here today and last night. I think every time we lose all of the low level teams fans come out from under there rocks and troll us.

Looking forward to tonight's game though, I have a feeling Fergie will play a young side.

-JakeW

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I think it will be the same line-up as the Newcastle game.

Sydney!

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I said the same further down. They win a game by beating Norwich and suddenly they have a free-flowing playing style and a world class youth system. I reckon their site has had more comebacks than Rocky. Alot of stuff coming on this page about Shelvey and Suso being the second coming of Bobby Charlton and Maradona to go with "Pele" Sterling.
Good luck with that one.

Supasub

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Fair criticism of the Lfc site - we don't have any maradonas or peles just yet. Who's this Bobby Charlton chap though?

cozinoz

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02 Oct 2012 07:47:26
The similarities between the current set up and the end of the Busby era are becoming too painful.
Then the side was allowed to get old, over reliant on one player and there was a lack of quality youngsters coming through with top class reinforcements not signed. Then as now the manager was deemed as untouchable and was even allowed a say in choosing his successor(s). Now we have a similar situation and although we are unlikely to decline as much as we did then something needs to be done before there is too much work needed. I would hope that everyone at the club is aware of the problems both sgort-term and long term and that the next manager is already lined up but the following would help us (in my opinion)
1 - A new tactically aware no2 to replace phelan before January
2 - 2 midfielders tol be signed in Jan and Nani shipped out with a Left footed winger signed as well
3 - Giggs will announce his retirement after the signing of the LW, Scholes will retire at the end of the season
4 - Fergie will stand down at the end of the season and will not be involved in choosing his successor
5 - The new manager will be from outside the club and will bring in his own people
6 - The glazers will give the new man enough money and time to rebuild

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In-case you haven't noticed it's Fergie that is rebuilding this squad for the new manager. Next season should be the final season of transition. Youth should be blooded and all positions should be revitalised. If we had a sugar daddy this transition could have been complete within one summer, but being a self sufficient club that does not rely on outside monies and believes in using the club's youth, it's going to take three summers and when the manager is finished with his 'project' the new manager will inherit a very young and talented squad. This IMO is the biggest challenge of the manager's career. Trying to rebuild and challenge for honours.

Sydney!

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I honestly think with the youth system were building the job will go to pep,it will be made for him to step straight in,hopefully with a club legend as his number or at least on the coaching staff,g.neville would be my 1st choice.

phil

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02 Oct 2012 07:34:19
Give it a rest GUGAS. All you Mancs talk about is history. Our future is looking bright with our fantastic youth set up and the kids that have already made in into the 1st team. Look to the future mate or are you afraid to?

A quote from blur mayne.
Quite possibly the best and funniest thing I have ever heard a scouser say.
Ironic just doesn't do it justice!

Karllap

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You have won one game and also go beat off us at your ground, what else do u want us to put? Lol and all we talk about is history? Please pal get a grip

Big Mac

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02 Oct 2012 09:10:02
My God has this man got a brass neck! Since when has Wellbeck & Young become foreign? not just imports who dive, just a witch hunt for those who dont tow the fergie media line!

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02 Oct 2012 09:32:45
Guys this is a banter site for football fans of which this is your page, doesn't mean others can't post on here and that you''ll like what they post. We are 6 games in and you sit in 3rd place with 12 points, add that to the fact you finished 2nd last year. However you all know that the end of last year was the start of a downward slide for which has carried on this season. Having watched football for over 40 yrs I was amazed you finished 2nd last year and even more so that you have 12 points this year having been outplayed in most of your games, I feel it's only a matter of time before someone does to you what you did to us last yr when we were in turmoil. You are not the utd of old and I and many others believe you will get worse before you get better, you all have different opinions as to why, but it's clear to see of maybe the top 6 clubs of which I include Liverpool you have to admit you look the worst. Things do change, you may make me eat my words but I believe you will be trophyless this year and for the first time in a long time finish outside the top four. Yes there is rivalry between us all but I'm just being honest, the same as I would say spuds worry me, the light blues have to much class to dismiss, Liverpool will come good and Chavski have class up front and shee* at the back.
Stoner. COYG.

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Stoner, a closet Liverpool fan who parades as an Arsenal fan. The only squad that is in better shape than ours is City's. The worst squad by a country mile is Liverpool's, but I do not consider them a top six side. Top eight maybe, but not a top six side. Everton, Newcastle & Spurs have a much better squad than Liverpool and better individuals. United will finish the season at least 15 points ahead of Arsenal and 30 ahead of Liverpool.

Sydney!

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'Karllap'

Did I seriously just read this..."all you mancs talk about is history"??

Pot, Kettle and Black spring to mind.

TK-Red

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02 Oct 2012 14:54:39
Sydney! That is truly deluded.
Stoner

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02 Oct 2012 07:02:06
Kloot

You and I have trodden similar paths and held Sir Matt in awe. So i am sure you must see some comparisons to be drawn with Sir Matt and Sir Alex. Sir Matt kept the faith in ageing players who had been great for him and United, but indeed were at the end of their once glittering careers, The opposition knew these players could be out ran and out fought and as Tommy Docherty said no one at the club had the balls to tell these players that they could no longer reach the level they needed to reach to carry on playing for United. Sir Matt retired leaving us in a mess.

On Saturday five players were over 31 and it would have been 6 if Vidic was available. It is not age but pace and versatility which is no longer there at their ages.

I fear the same as when Sir Matt left and that we are dancing into it in the same way we did then, so much respect for an esteemed manager we and those at the club accept everything he says. The only difference being we know our history, SAF does but it seems he is too close. This is very concerning at the moment and given the age profile of the first team a major concern

Red Man

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I agree with you Red Man there are a lot of similarities and I believe Sir Alex is manovering himself into a position on the board or something like that. I do not believe he will walk away totaly from the club and the power he weilds. Wilf would have done a good job if he had been allowed to buy the players he wanted Malcolm McDonald Mike England Colin Todd but Sir Matt kept his hand on the purse strings. You must remember that Sir Matt resigned from the board because the club spent over a million on Brian Robson and he said no player was worth over a million. Liverpool were completely different when Shankly retired they banned him from the training ground and from Anfield. Cruel yes! lacking any kind of respect and class definately but neccassary and efective. This is going to be a very umcomfortable time for us United supporters. But we remember those times before and know that we were always the best supporters in the land as we always got behind the team. Lets hope that like in the second half against Spurs we show the rest of the country why we are Manchester United. P.S never mind a statue for Sir Alex the next statue at OT should be for Jimmy Murphy without doubt. We all owe him everything without him we would have gone under and the players he produced are the who's who of United greats. I AM KLOOT

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Good post Red Man. Do we need a Tommy Docherty type figure to speak up now?
I also thought your post below regarding youth development was excellent, well thought out and expressed.

J Bones.

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02 Oct 2012 03:48:43
mourinho says he wont wait for the united job, he must know we want pep instead
DB

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Jose may be the answer in the short term, but not the answer long-term. He is a get-in and get-out manager and will not settle at any club including Manchester United. I agree with Red Man that he would make a good stop-gap until someone like OGS or Giggs was ready, but I do not believe the club feel the same way. With Fergie taking control of this huge transition, for me it completely rules out Jose who would want to put his own stamp on the club and not win with someone else's squad.

Sydney!

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Why do ppl suggest Giggs...is it just beacuse Paul Scholes mentioned him? I dont think he is a leader - he isnt vocal enough and doesnt do a great job as captain let alone a manager...throw in the fact that he has zero managerial experience do ppl actually think he is in line for one of the the biggest managerial jobs in club football in a few years?? Bizarre

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02 Oct 2012 11:31:01
read on twitter that blanc may be inserted as no2 in next few weeks. dont know if true (it is twitter after all)
but apparently he was asked if he would be putting his boots back on and playing for us again as a joke, and he replied that he would be looking into the defense as coach and was then very complimentary about utd and our players

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02 Oct 2012 00:47:44
Might be a bit early for him but would like to see Fletcher start against Newcastles combative midfield. Would also like to see Rooney in the midfield as well.
My side for the weekend, injuries permitting would be this.

----------De Gea-----------
Rafa-----Ferdinand---Evans---Buttner
-------------Fletcher---------------
--------Anderson----Rooney--------
--Valencia------RVP------Kagawa---

Norn Iron

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02 Oct 2012 00:00:08
It seems that the worm has turned and the Emporer is not wearing any clothes. Suddenly it has become ok on this site to say that it is Fergie's fault. Will you all be brave enough to say this if he drags us to the title as he almost did last year? I have been very critical of Fergie in the past but that is because of his financial deelings and his support of the Glazers. I don't like the way he has used the club to fight personal battles about his son with the BBC. But it really makes me laugh when I read some of the posts on here who suddenly make out that he doesn't know what he is doing. Yes I have been banging on about buying quality in the midfield for 2 years but do you seriously think that Sir Alex isn't aware of this and has a plan. I remember all this rubbish last season from Arsenal supporters saying that Wenger had lost it. Who exactly do you think is going to rush at this job knowing the financial constraints they have to work under. Sydney you know what is happening to they youth players and the wages that they are being offered. From where I am looking we are 3rd in the league and still in every other competition with everything to play for. One thing I can 100% guarantee is that he will be just as angry about our performances as we are and he will do something about it. I ask any of you who were there on Saturday to tell me the last time the atmosphere was like that at OT and which one of you didn't believe that we were actually going to do it. You know why because of that man and what he said at half time. Take a good long look at yourselves in the mirror and wonder what you wish for. We are Manchester United we never lose we just run out of time. I AM KLOOT

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" Will you all be brave enough to say this if he drags us to the title as he almost did last year?"

Is this a joke RFT? You had an 8 point lead with 7 games to go. He did not 'nearly drag you to the title' he threw it away.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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Shut up Bliar. Nobody wants your opinion.

And I'm glad somebody finally is seeing some sense. Good post Kloot.

I was watching highlights on Sunday of the game on MUTV and it showed a replay of one of the many chances United missed. It showed the reaction of the bench. Fergie and Meulensteen jumped up and put their hands to their head, gutted that the chance was missed.

Mike Phelan sat there biting his nails.

The man is a joke! A complete waste of a very important job! Phelan out!

G.A.G.U.S

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Would you have selected that starting lineup, would you not start DDG? The man is a living legend but you cant argue that something isn't right with our club. We should never have trailed 2-0 in the first place. Why is he screwing with DDG when he puts up with Evra and other under performers?

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First off, blair. thats a hell of a lot closer than your team has got to an epl. must annoy you that you wont see them lift it in your lifetime??

kloot, for once totally agree. you dont just stop being the best manager in the world. i do beleive, however, that a solid number 2 is required. i dont see that in phelan. what ppl need to remember is that if players like sneijder and hazzard didnt price themselves out of moves, they world be at old trafford. s.a.f is trying but like you said, we must have some restraints on us.

jamesmack8

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A few questions for KLOOT, does it take this long to solve a big problem at Man Utd? You would think That Alex would of seen these issues coming before hand and would of implemented the plan before the issues in midfield got this bad, but it don't seem like it. How many years has it been since Arsenal won a Cup ? You think True Utd Fans would want to wait that long as arsenal fans have been waiting for a trophy? I don't think so. Last season we throw the title away clearly, could Alex not see the cracks then? Did Alex get frightened when playing against Man City with his Team tactics, It was obvious that Utd were only trying to get a Draw in that game and we got punished. Losing the lead against Everton was that not a big factor in the title and against Wigan were we not out played last season. was our midfield not weak then ? You say Alex would of been angry about our performances as we are, then I ask this, Losing the title to Man City was a bitter pill to swallow for any United Fan Right? Then why has Alex not responded by getting a stronger midfield that is so badly needed ? how come United cant get the players that are needed ? Is it Alex himself or the Glazers and money and the debt. We all know these issues are playing a big part for the club. Its Alex who needs to look in the mirror and find himself again and ask himself why did he not get united the midfield that was need to make MANCHESTER UNITED again. I have a lot of respect for you KLOOT, you do post many good posts on here. And I do Understand that Fergie can not leave right now, he needs to finish this season first
and Win it.

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I remember a time when Liverpool had a 12 point lead and manage to throw that away.I wonder who won the league that season? hehe. Anyway I think what rft is refering to is actually the team we had and the way we played.Diego-06

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Cripes -- Well said Kloot.

Mike

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Kloot, it is very early to knock Ferguson and question what he is doing with knee jerk reactions to a poor performance. With that I would agree. However I do think, unlike other times in the past, questions do need to be asked of him. Some of his squad selections, tactical decisions and even post match interviews have to me at least been quite baffling. There is no doubt Ferguson is one of if not THE best man manager in the game, totally agree with you. I would ask, and of course it will be continually be asked, is father time catching up with him the last 18 months, pardon the pun but only time will tell.
Of course, in his defence and what people do fail to mention, he has had a monumental task to do the last few years in replacing the likes of Keane, Neville, Van de Sar, Ronaldo, Tevez as well as trying to replace Giggs, Scholes, Ferdinand and Evra of the next season or so. Every one of them top quality players. He has also been very unlucky when you look at injury situations with Hargreaves, Anderson, Ferdinand, Vidic, Cleverly, Smalling, Valencia, Jones all out for very long periods of time and having top youngsters in Morrison and Pogba failing to break through at the club.
However I would our squad is pretty weak in quite a few areas in terms of leaders and top quality players. Bar Scholes a lot of the older players are no longer there on merit but on name and a lot of the signings the last few years are actually average players that haven't added much to the side, which can very much be said for youth players bought through by the club that have broken or are trying to break through.
I do think the foundations are still there for a good side in the younger signings he has made like DDG, Jones, Smalling, the twins, Cleverly and some of the 16/17 year olds we have, but that is 3 or 4 years ago and the side we have currently and the brand of football we are playing the last 18 months is both very average in terms of quality and entertainment

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Kloot, it's difficult to defend the manager with this one mate. He has had £130m (net) to spend since the summer of 2010 and he still hasn't sorted out two key areas. Central midfield and the LB position. You would usually blame the Glazers for this, but even that argument is becoming weak. £130m (net) is a lot of dough and one or even two midfielders should have been bought with that money. The manager may have a long-term plan, but that hasn't helped us for the past two season and the current one.

Sydney!

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Kloot it wasnt what he said at half time its what he did ,take giggs off,he started the game with the 2 worst players from the liverpool game nani and giggs.he hasnt addressed the midfield deficiency for 3 seasons now ,if thats a plan then i would like to know what it is and when its finished.it also pains me to say it but i believe we will again end up potless this season,as i said on another thread the games we have over the next 5 weeks will determine our season one way or another.
johndenton

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Its not fergys fault he tried to sign a left back and he tried to sign sa centre mid

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01 Oct 2012 23:41:37
Seems I'm not the only one getting annoyed with blur posting loads of comments on this page, so I posted a couple on their's (don't know if blur is normally active on their page but nothing that I could see there and stumbled on this comment),
"01 Oct 2012 23:08:18
I've never been on the united rumours site before today, but I find it very unsettling that Blair Mayne has made more comments on their site then ours.. It looks childish, and seems to me like some bad karma for us other fans.. Who cares what their fans say, Lets leave it to our great Reds to do the talking for us. End of.
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Oh dear, seems you really are more interested in our team.

Supasub

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Who are the people disagreeing with this? In the last few day Liverpool fans have flooded this site, because they beat Norwich City and we lost.

-JakeW

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01 Oct 2012 23:23:53
For once I agree with Sir Alex. Foreign players are the worse divers. Nani, Ronaldo and Van Nistilroy have been some of the worse divers in the PL, since it began.

Stam refused to dive for Sir Alex and was quickly shown the door. Sir Alex's brass neck would be worth a fortune. If he brought it down to his local scrapyard and cashed in.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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Suarez. That is all.

Percy

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Just one Percy?

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

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Very harsh, Blair - Young and Rooney aren't foreign

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No, there are some English players...gerrard!

Supasub

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02 Oct 2012 10:06:42
Come on supersub, you say some players and then you mention Gerrard. That shoud read a player. Some means more than 1. You shall have to keep visiting the Liverpool site, as you normally do and get educated.
Robbie

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Stam refused to dive did he Blair? Can you provide proof of this? Or are you referring to the fact that Stam revealed, in his autobiography, that Sir Alex said "when in Rome"? Here you are, again, making up statements in a sad attempt to back up your usual BS opinions.

TK-Red

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