Manchester United Banter Archive August 30 2011

30 Aug 2011 23:27:13
guysss last day 2moro of the transfer window. im reallly excited about it, bt i'd b sooo dissapointed if we dont sign any1. 2 b honest with u guys, i just want SAF to sign sum1, idc if its W.S, modric, or evennnnn yossi benayoun.lol.jk. does ne1 think we'll sign any1 b4 the 11pm deadline?

30 Aug 2011 22:32:03
So deadline day is almost upon us and the madness will well and truely begin! Personally speaking i'd love for United to make an 11th hour bid to bring in a quality central midfielder. Whilst I would be a fool to rule anything out, I would be surprised if SAF brought in another new face. Luka Modric situation is an intriguing one, he clearly doesn't want to be a Spurs player could United spring a last ditch move? A player who seems to have gone under the radar is Javi Martinez. I think he would be a terrific signing and would certainly offer more than Michael Carrick either way i'll be happy with or without another signing, yes I beleive we do lack that creative spark that a Gotze/Modric/Sneijder would bring but we are more than ready for the season ahead!

30 Aug 2011 22:05:03
Yolanthe (sneijder wife) tweeted she will follow her husband wherever he goes.....Sneijder has just recently tweeted thanks for all the support from all over the world.

could they reall play games with fans minds?

Utd deal still on in my opinion.

30 Aug 2011 21:57:15
For months I have been saying this to everyone I know and on this website (not posted with a name, kept forgetting but if the Ed's can see IP addresses of posters or w.e then they will agree) that we DONT NEED SNEIJDER. He would just hinder Cleverley's development by not letting him play (and for those who will say he can learn from him, what about Scholes in the coaching staff!?) and would cost a ridiculous amount (just under £90mill for a 5 year contract or just over £75mill for a 4 year contract) and there is no guarantees he would fit in straight away. Cleverley is clearly good enough and he can deal with the pressure, just re watch the game against City, 2-0 down, not really in the game, he comes on and completely changes it. If he starts to struggle, let Rooney play in the hole and play two strikers up top. Simple
DR93 {Ed007's Note - I'll trust you on this DR mate because if you think I'm wading through IPs to back you up the night before the window closes you can chase yourself ;-)

30 Aug 2011 21:44:51
I honestly don't understand why some people are giving Hargo a hard time. Yes, ok, United have paid his medical bills for 3 years but they also left him without a club.

Why City? Simple answer - Ambition!
The lad has played for 2 clubs in his entire career - United and Munich. Two huge clubs that compete for trophies every season. Why would he sign for a club, such as Spurs, Villa or West Brom, where the beat he can hope for is a good run in the Europa League or a push for 4th in the league?

I for one think that we United fans should be getting behind him. Saying thanks for never putting in any less than 100% and hoping that he can have another couple of years playing top flight football.

One more thing. Those fans who are criticising him for joining City. Do you feel this way about all players making that move? Last I remembered there was a statue outside Old Trafford of a man who did the exact same thing. He's the one standing with Best and Charlton.

Matt

30 Aug 2011 21:26:44
Liverpool have just agreed to sell Poulsen to 1 of the biggest water companies in the world, Best of luck at Evian Mr Poulsen, More chance of a trophy there coz i assume they have employee of he month competitions

A.S.H.W.I

30 Aug 2011 21:14:41
any news on leeds tickets anyone

30 Aug 2011 21:03:09
ha..

Still laughing at Bazza's comment. Almost as funny as the Coor's Light adverts.

No news on this predictions page ED?

Jono {Ed007's Note - I will chase it up Jono, we have just been very busy, even the techno heads are making sure everything is running smoothly, the sites have exploded hit wise recently.}

30 Aug 2011 20:34:50
Go on manutd.com to vote for player of the month. I think Welbeck should be it.

30 Aug 2011 20:29:10
Don't know why everyones moaning about Hargreaves to be honest. What difference will it make with him sitting on the bench? Anyone who thinks he'll play instead of Toure, Nasri, De Jong and Barry is wrong. He'll be used for 2 months(injury permitting) when Toure disappears off to Africa for African Cup of Nations. Stop worrying about him we haven't missed him and aren't going to.

DB-Red

30 Aug 2011 20:07:03
How can anyboby be having a go at Hargo for going to City? He is a football player who even we all could agree on is not about the money but still has the hunger for success. Where other than Utd would he have a really good chance to do that?

People seem to be forgetting that WE released him, he didnt ask for a move or refuse to play for us like so many others at other clubs have. He has been a free agent for 3 months meaning his Utd career has been over for that amount of time. He is free to join whoever he pleases. He played brilliantly for 1 season and would no doubt have been still with us had the injuries not started but unfortunately for all involved they did and we have moved on, now he can too.

I wish him all the best and have nothing but respect for a player with so many career threatening injuries to not just get back to playing but also win himself a move to another big club.

Well done Owen just a pity your not still with us.

Jono

P.s. Insurance would of covered all medical fee's and partial wages depending on the premiums. Zero compo would of been paid as he has not retired through injury.

30 Aug 2011 19:53:25
What is this big need for validation people seem to have? It seems that people are more concerned with "I told you so" than the signings we have made and the state of the club. There have been hundreds of predictions on this site over the last year or 2, some of them come off, some of them dont. One thing I will say is that anyone who does truely have ITK sources wouldnt feel the need to come on here shouting about it when they get things right.

TK-Red

30 Aug 2011 19:42:24
champions league final. Even if he wears the blue shirt at OT i am sure he will get a good reception. And what does it matter anyway according to Sydney GAN etc we are going to buy a world class midfielder with all that money the Glazers are giving us. Whats that you say? no value in the market oh thats ok then. RAINFISHTROMBONE""""
dear mr rainfishtrombone
ngiak appreciates your attempt at luring him out of his lethargy
you do remember the stick ngiak got for predicting 3 signings around the 15 to 25 million range at the end of last season?
and the prediction that 20 players will leave the club?
well there are a couple of days yet to prove ngiak wrong
but... after all that stick
surely you have to give it to ngiak's distant sources?
and when did ngiak want a big signing?
sign some youngsters or promote our existing youngsters
has always been ngiak's mantra
gan

30 Aug 2011 19:28:13
One day to go and the clock is ticking

I see some Hargreaves comments, well let us understand that he settled in Manchester and liked it. We also dont know if he has passed the medical yet so let us see. However, if you are sacked by work then you receive another offer why should we have a go at him for taking a job that keeps him and family in the same place. The question that should be asked is how was the decision reached to release him altogether? If he was correctly assessed by our medical department or Bridgewater (the same one that assessed him when we bought him?) then we should have nothing to worry about should we... However if he becomes a success for City then it should prompt a lot of difficult questions.

Goetze, rumours say Arsenal have made an offer. Well it is crunch time, if they succeed are we looking at another Oezil? We were in for him earlier than the summer he went to Madrid but didnt get him. If we have any interest in him and Arsenal are also trying then look what happened with Smalling and Jones, it prompted us to buy earlier than expected.

Frankly if we buy noone it is unacceptable and will prompt serious questions. 26 hours to go

Red Man

30 Aug 2011 19:03:45
We pay Hargreaves for TWO years while he was sick, stuck by him, payed for his treatments, gave him help, encouragement and time... and the PR**K pays us back by joining City?!! This guy has NO respect for the hands that fed and looked after his ass, when he was low down with injuries. I cant stand the sight of that fool now. I dont wish him any luck AT ALL.

Early'b

30 Aug 2011 18:59:27
Those of you with good memories will remember when last year just before christmas that Owen H would never play for United again. As i stated then that the problem is in his head not his legs. i have no doubt he can prove his fitness but when it comes to competitive matches he will struggle. Anyway I wish the boy nothing but luck, he never gave less than his best in the shirt and was a star in the champions league final. Even if he wears the blue shirt at OT i am sure he will get a good reception. And what does it matter anyway according to Sydney GAN etc we are going to buy a world class midfielder with all that money the Glazers are giving us. Whats that you say? no value in the market oh thats ok then. RAINFISHTROMBONE

30 Aug 2011 18:55:48
I've already had my say earlier on Hargreaves but I have to congratulate him on the fact that it has given everyone here something to talk about tonight lol.

Rjmanutd

30 Aug 2011 18:35:28
Ed's my agree and disagree buttons dont work, well they show up, but when i come back they are not counted..?

Simon {Ed007's Note - They should register when I refresh the page from my end Simon.}

30 Aug 2011 18:16:32
Cleverley has replaced scholes

30 Aug 2011 18:05:48
Does anyone know why SAF is in London or was he just passing thru on his way somewhere else?

Can't imagine a flight from Heathrow to Holland takes long does it?

Sneijder there at the moment with Dutch team.

30 Aug 2011 17:33:10
At this moment in time i am quite gutted with this transfer window,hopefully come tomorrow things will be different.Fair enough we are playing great football atm,young has fitted in really well,jones looks a fantastic prospect same as de gea but as for cleverly he is not our answer to midfield,i believe he will become a great player but not for a few years.I would love to know rooneys thoughts on the players we have signed as i think he was right to question the players we have and how we are to strengthen,nothing will have changed if we get injuries to anderson and young,i will cringe at having to go back to the workman like performances of last year,i dream of a strong dynamic midfield that can compete with the best where rooney can be freed up to rip teams apart.joeyored

30 Aug 2011 17:20:10
not been on for a while.

i had a question for a few. the season when the infamous quote " you cannot win anything with kids" did anyone really think we could?

this season SAF has re-invented the squad, a few on here say we will not compete with Barca. In our side that started against arsenal, only 3 players lined up in the CL final.. so how do we know? On paper yes Barca do look the best, but they are built on homegrown talent. a few years back Barca where not the team they are.. They havent gone spending happy like Real Madrid or our neighbours.. Money dont always buy success. Success is not built overnight. These players might just prove a few of you wrong and actually turn out to be a very good side... And b4 you say Spurs and Arsenal where not great, you can only beat the sides that are put infront of you game by game...

Jenny

30 Aug 2011 16:56:32
as you all probably know, on wikipedia they have updated there information on wesley sneijder. it says he is an attacking midfielder playing for manchester united. at the bottom of the page it says wesley sneijder signed on the 30th august 2011 for a fee of 33.5 million which also saw fabio da silva head the other way on a season long loan. me personally find some of it hard to believe as they claim his wages are 130,000pw. i suppose if its true regarding nike making the rest up then maybe so, but you need a medical before you can sign and theres been no reports of him sighted in manchester, unless of course its been carried out in italy and then info faxed through. but you could go on forever. well all see for ceratin come tomorrow night. {Ed007's Note - Wikipedia? Mate do not pay any attention to that site.}

30 Aug 2011 15:15:03
guys was the Ozil deal and ronaldiniho saga like this?
its my first transfer rumour window on here.

Been frustrating, we knew young and the rest were gonna join but they never came out and said so.
im assuming that if there is that much gossip there has to be some substance.
I wont believe another rumour if sneijder dont come.

30 Aug 2011 15:02:24
I just get the feeling we'll sign 1 more, maybe i'm just hopefully reading between the lines to much from a few interviews from players and coaches!

I would be happy though going forward with the squad we've got, i think we've got good cover in key areas and a balance between youth and experience.

Hobbes

30 Aug 2011 14:07:12
Why would he go to Sh1tty .... 1st of all he wont get his place there then he will be hated for the rest of his life .... 2nd of all he could have gone to West Brom and Tottenham where he would have got his place .... He would have the chance to get injured in a PL match rather than in a training sessionJOE

30 Aug 2011 14:04:48
not a big fan of young but he has been great for united so far although to the cost of my fantasy team( thanks nani ) long may it continue.

30 Aug 2011 13:32:32
firstly, I'd like to make the point of stating that i was wrong in saying the Arsenal game would be closer than we thought, Really didn't expect that result.

Secondly, I've got a feeling this season will go to the last day, unfortunately I think it's going city's way, they've got so much depth and it's really starting to look like a team rather than a group of individuals, so I think they'll win it this year with our boys coming in a close second.

I'm going to hand it to Liverpool as well, they've looked very sharp, and although they don't look as strong at the back, going forward and on the wings they look very good, when Gerrard is back, they'll drop Adam and then I can see them starting to hit form. Gerrard isn't the player from 2-3 years ago but he's still very influential and very talented.

as for our lads, I'm really impressed, i wasn't expecting us to start this strongly, and when you consider we've got Ferdinand, Rafael and Vidic not fully fit as well as a not match fit Hernandez or Toni we're going to get a lot stronger as the year goes on.

I'm hoping Cleverley doesn't play EVERY game because although he's looking the part He'll start picking up consistent knocks and may have the same problems as Wilshere this time next year.

The league is looking very promising this far, Still not sure who will finish in 4th but my top 4 looks like this:

1)City
2)United
3)Chelsea
4)Liverpool/Arsenal.

The Moon.

30 Aug 2011 12:48:24
So how are we all doing in the fantasy football league

thought i would distract us all from the transfers

Noley {Ed007's Note - I'm up to a mind blowing 161st place with 111 points!! And I missed the first week.}

30 Aug 2011 12:17:56
Havent posted in a while, Just want to have an early bet at young being signing of the season, what an impact he has made! I wasnt ever the greatest fan of young before but am over the moon to be getting proved wrong, the guy oozes confidence and is much better technically than i ever gave him credit for!

Other shouts would be

jones-man united
aguero-sh?!ty
mata-chelsea

I also hope hargreaves agrees a move to villa, think hes one of the in england when fit and would light up a fading villa side full of quality english players

safwetrust87

30 Aug 2011 10:28:58
So, Wesley Sneijder and David Gill both put the final nails in that coffin - we ain't getting him. Now I'm not as gutted as I thought I'd be as I have been impressed thus far with our midfield.

BUT. Massive BUT. Where is the Ronaldo money? We've spent £50m on a very good young GK (no complaints there), and two excellent English players who've already proven me wrong.

However, as the likes of RAINFISHTROMBONE have been saying, again we have been lied to. Gill has once again fooled a lot of our fans, myself included, into thinking we have the money for a marquee midfielder. In all honesty, I'd take ANY good CM - doesn't have to be £30m, £15-20m could get us the likes of Yann M'Vila (insert every other name we've seen listed on here all summer).

My main worry is this: - Tom Cleverly has been decent, not brilliant but very decent; he CANNOT play a full season and keep this form up. Neither can Anderson, we know how injury prone and hot&cold the guy is.

So what happens then? Any time these guys are out, who do we rely on? A twilight-years Ryan Giggs, Darren Gibson, Michael Carrick and Darren Fletcher. The latter is still suffering from the virus that laid him out for so long, the middle two are simply not good enough to win us trophies - 2 years ago, maybe. Not now, when City and Chelsea are stronger, as are Liverpool.

So to conclude, by Xmas we'll all be having the exact same negative debates about how easily we are dominated in the middle of the park and how we should have signed a CM when we had the chance.

Soz for the essay guys, just a little disappointed. Before anyone says it - I know Paul Pogba's brilliant but you're deluded if you expect him to play in anything other than CC games against league 2 oppositiion this season.

RED_SKY

30 Aug 2011 01:10:36
im sorry but if pogba is good enough then why not play or even on the bench..... wilshere has had a cracking career so far imo and he started off on the bench and got chucked in and proved his class i would love to see him introduced and tried out...... plus imo cleverley still doesnt look good enough for our first team i would love to see schweinsteiger or m'villa with anderson in the middle or even try out valencia in the middle with his power