Manchester United Banter Archive June 30 2013

30 Jun 2013 22:48:15
Enough transfer talk for today. Who do you guys think will win the match today? Forza Brazil.

ZigZag

Brazil 3-0 LOL. Spain look terrible and can't handle the pace of the brazilian counter attack. They are all over the place and very poor defending. Pique just got sent off, so game over.

Shahram

Brazil destroyed Spain. Another question, what would people think about Luiz Gustavo? He seems to be out of favour at Bayern, not too strange, looking at Bayern's midfield, but I honestly think he would improve our team. He is one of the types of players our midfield is in need of, and I reckon he will go for a cheap price. And no, it is not MOTM-fever, he was far from Brazil's best player, but had a solid performance.

ZigZag

Brazil 3-0

dio1989

01 Jul 2013 07:37:45
Luis Gustavo is exactly the kind of player our midfield needs. And he is very under rated, as players of his ilk can be.

We seem to have other targets in midfield, but if they don't work out then Gustavo could be a great alternative.

I reckon De Gea would have saves 2 of those goals. Iker had a terrible game.

Should be fun come the world cup next year. My pick to win it is Argentina.

Shahram

Zigzag

It's match of the day fever not man of the match fever!

30 Jun 2013 20:17:39
I miss the eds. :- ( come back

BowlDonBowl

Totally agree, please come back eds!

Red Joe

30 Jun 2013 19:39:40
Last few hours of the reign of the greatest manager ever. Thank you for everything sir Alex

Hear! Hear!

So exciting
Paddy the Irish Man

And so say all of us.
togthered

His reign may be officially over but let's face it, he's only really moving office and with it relieving a far old wack of weight off his shoulders.
i think they opted for moyes in the end because they knew he wouldn't be too proud or big headed to go ask sir alex his opinion (just as sir alex went to sir matt all those yrs ago)
the club is in good hands with moyes, I just hope he gets the time needed when that first inevitable wobble comes.
scotland may produce some piss poor football players, but it ain't half bad at producing cracking managers

30 Jun 2013 18:23:08
Hey guys, I was just wondering if any united players are competing in the u20 world cup? What has happened to all the strootman and mendy talk? Do you think some signings will be unveiled next week?
Cheers

JohnTheRedMaroon97

Varela and Thorpe are playing sure but I believe England got knocked out.

Varela & Henriquez. Thorpe, Cole and Johnstone knocked out with England.

Larnel Cole and Henriquez and Sam Johnson also involved
ARB

And Henriquez for Chile

Angelo and varela are the only united players left in the tournament 5 english ones knocked out it says more on the united website

dio1989

Henriquez played for Chile but was average.

30 Jun 2013 17:04:14
I have no idea what is happening with Thiago but if he doesn't want to come and play for us than fair enough. Be proud of our club, if a player wants to go elsewhere, their loss in my view. Same for Bale who allegedly want to play for United. There are plenty of great players who would love to play for us and as it appears we do have some cash this year, let's spend it on those who want to wear the red shirt. Some of the posts feel almost desperate - remember our history and our ethos chaps, be patient

Oops, typo, Bale doesn't want to play for us apparently

Would imagine the next 2 weeks will be eventful in terms of comings and goings at Utd. Aren't we off on tour mid July? So I'd think Moyes will want any new signings available to travel with the rest of the squad.

BennyBlanco

Couldn't have put it better the young Turkish lad ucan looks a talent strootman quintero kondogbia van ginkel

I think if Bale were to don a red shirt he would have joined us rather than Spurs. I see a deal in principle being struck behind closed doors for him to go to Madrid next season. Hopefully to replace the outgoing Ronaldo who will come back to Manchester. He always wanted to play for Madrid do he's achieved that ambition. I think he needs to be loved though (don't we all lol) and there's nowhere where he'll be more worshipped than returning to OT.

I have no insider knowledge. Just gut feeling and that's what I think may happen.

30 Jun 2013 15:31:56
Guys, incase anyone needs a good laugh I've a story for you all, I saw a picture of the headline on , if anyone knows the paper please tell me which one, the headline was, United in sensational swoop for Messi! Apparently due to a move for Ronaldo we will sign messi who's future in Spain is uncertain due to this tax thing! Well hat went through my mind was who can actually write so much c**p and actually who would be lazy enough to make a story up like this! I actually laughed when I read it! Some journalists have no clue! So I want to ask you all what's the most ridiculous transfer rumour you have ever read!

Caolan, when it comes to United there have been hundreds. Every year lazy journalists print stores with 'sources', most of which they have simply made up to sell papers. We will never know how much interest there is in the players we hear we are linked with but we can't be interested in all of them.

That's very true AJH but this one took the biscuit!

We could swap him for Rooney! now there is a suggestion as ridiculous as the original paper report.

I knew there was a reason I didn't read papers!

Brendan81

Well I say let's push for Messi! This guy looks like he could be a great player in a couple of years! I have a good feeling about this one lads. ;)

Weggy, I don't know about him now, I don't think he is physical enough to play in the premier league he couldn't match yaya ;)

Weggy,

I have a problem with this guy called Messi, he doesn't track back and can't defend. He's not an a very well rounded player and we have Rooney who will get there in 10 years :)

If we give him enough time I am sure he would develop into a premier league regular!

LOL :)

Dont think he is united class and will struggle to make our 1st 11 think we should go for bobby zamora instead ;)

Nah not united Quality.

Shahram

30 Jun 2013 14:50:27
If we miss out on thiago
then surely the promises
made to him will only
make fabregas a more
likely alternative



Bfro

I don't think we were actually in for Fabregas. It has always been Thiago and if we don't get him I see us looking elsewhere, not Barcelona's rejects.

U don't think fabregas anygood
tried and tested in premier
champions league world cup winner
would link up with rvp

Wiggy

Fabregas is a very talented footballer and a player who would improve our midfield considerably. If we can't get Thiago I would rather have Fabregas who has proved himself in England than some other names banded about on here
Red Man

Red Man I understand that he is a exceptional player but I can't see the club going for him just because Thiago is taking his place.

30 Jun 2013 14:37:48
Fake tv account on twitter reporting now Manchester United have missed out on Thiago we are turning our attention to Shaun Derry of QPR good fun!

30 Jun 2013 14:26:43
What are the chances Ed of us signing Sneider, Schnider, Spider, Slider whatever his name his. Sorry just couldn't help it I am totally bored with the constant Rooney stuff.

Red Daz

30 Jun 2013 14:16:11
every year its the same we are linked with every big name, but end up with cheaper options, apart from rvp last year. like someone said is it to sell season tickets?. so far this year we have got some unknown r/b. moyesy get out there and get em reeled in on my wish list Ronaldo bale fabregrass, thiago. baines forget strootmanand fellini gaary

That wish list is only any good on a computer game, sadly this is real life. Also, the transfer window is yet to open so let's see what happens is it?

So how come city Chelsea real barca Bayern have already bought players? Transfer window starts tomorrow but that doesn't stop us from agreeing contracts with players.
And why is it fifa that a club like ours, one of the three biggest in the world, should be buying the top players? Are we saying that we no longer should buy the top players?

Get your hopes down, they will all fade into the background and we'll pick up a couple of £10-15m younger players that MIGHT become world class. Not saying that'll be a bad thing but it's looking unlikely we'll get the names we're initially being linked with.

I hope to hell Moyes gets financial backing - he needs it, because if not, he could struggle and I do believe he can succeed if given the money to work with.

RED_SKY

30 Jun 2013 13:51:04
Just want some clarification, Gareth Bale has recently signed a 3 year contract with BT who will be challenging the premier league dominance of Sky next season, now that is a huge commitment for someone who was strongly linked with a team in a foreign league last season and in this current transfer window. It will probably complicate a foreign transfer rather than make it impossible but I cannot see why Bale will seek a move this summer especially to a team outside of the PL after signing a 3 year deal with BT.
Thoughts and opinions welcome

Imran

I think Bale will stay at Spurs for another season and see if they can push for Champions league football. If they fail that will probably be the last straw and it would be likely for him to go to Madrid as Ronaldo's replacement. Where Ronaldo goes is a whole new dimension! Hopefully here.

Will he be working in a call centre or have they signed him for connecting new lines?

30 Jun 2013 13:19:24
Is vidic is going to AC milan

May be vacationing in Milan which is not that great :) but expect him to lead the team out come first game of the season.

Shahram

No, apparently he isn't going to AC Milan isn't.

Nicolas_United

30 Jun 2013 11:07:19
Apparently, Rooney is happy to sign a new contract at United, but won't take any kind of paycut according to the papers. If true then I think it is bye bye Rooney. To offer him the same deal would make United look very very silly after the past 18 months of poor performance, unprofessional attitude and being incapable of keeping himself in shape. I'd get the best possible fee from abroad or Arsenal, and let him go.

Brendan81

We will never give a 28 year old with 2 years to go on his contract an extension on those wages.

Is it not the club policy that once you are 30 you are only given a 1 year contract?

I Firmly believe we will sell him but will need to tow the official line "not for Sale" to get some bidding going. Hope Chelsea and Real jump in and we could have ourselves a turkey shoot LOL.

Shahram

Shahram

Why so much of a concern about Rooney? Is he the only quality player we have left!

Fergie has unfortunately left the team in transition. No replacement for Scholes, Rooney is on the Wayne (pun) and the club's financial muscle limited by the Glazer's debt. We all know that the real problems at United are based on a lack of direction and hanging on to or being loyal to ageing players beyond their sell-by date. Next season will be a shock to us because we have not reinvested wisely, integrated players like Hernandez, Welbeck and Evans who are the future of the club. Even if we get Thiago, Baines and Strootman as everyone hopes it will take time for them to bed in. Expecting RVP to work miracles is not enough. This is Man United we are talking about not Torquay United. We have got rid of all the coaching staff who made us a success. I am a very worried Man United fan!

I seriously think Barca could come in for him. Just read Neymars comments about him, and something tells me maybe Barca have hinted he may be on their wanted list. I would take £25-30m for him from Barca, or Thiago and £10-15m, which is the same thing. It might appease the Barca fans, if Rooney was unveiled the same time Thiago left aswell, so it might be better for them if they try and do that deal. doesn't matter to us what way it happens as it results in the same thing.

Brendan81

If it is an English club we have to sell to then I wouldn't accept anything less than £30 million from anyone but would like to see us play hard ball for once and try and get the better deal which seems to never happen. If it's a foreign club ala Madrid, Bayern or Barca then I would take £25 million but I would prefer to see a player exchanged in the deal.

Ngiak strongly believes that if the heart and soul is facing elsewhere the best would be to leave
ngiak also thinks that a thorn should always be removed because it will cause a slow infiltrating infection and eventually cause a cancerous rift
soccer is a team game exemplified by the Manchester United ethos
good riddance and thank you for the service
gan

So true about getting rid of irritating people especially those who talk about themselves in the 3rd person. Bye

Brendan

He is not good enough to get into that barca starting 11. Who do they sit to give Rooney game time and Barca's style is terrible for his style of play.

I would think Chelsea, Madrid, PSG are much more viable than Barca. Barca need a central defender and are loaded everywhere else.

You have young guys like Tello and the young spanish Winger who has a french sounding name but is outstanding and might turn out to be the best of the lot that need game time.


Shahram

I think barca would be interested.
With the likely departure of villa and tello on loan 4-3-3 with a front 3of Neymar messi and rooney looks plausible with rooney leading the attack and messi and Neymar either side.

Still I believe if we can get rooney to lower his wage demands we should keep him, makes a big difference even when playing poor. Look at the pass for rvp vs villa for example.


TRUMORS

30 Jun 2013 14:05:53
I think we will find out by the end of the week, I think he will sign a new contract if not then of to Chelsea where I think he will do very well.
Still don't agree with the opinion he has been poor for a while.
had a poor season last year but the year before 34 goals in 40 games is an excellent return especially taking in to account United struggled that year and Rooney played several positions. It's also better than Rvp s 30 in 48 games for example this year.
I would say if any United player scored 34 in 40 games this coming season we would all say he had a great season.
If kagawa did the site would go in to melt down
Jred

Dear mr I am kloot
ngiak is glad you finally developed an important attribute called insight
he will miss you
third person talk is different from talking on behalf of someone
maybe one day you will know the difference
gan

I don't personally think he'd fit in at Barca, I think it may happen though Shahram, they may have ideas of how to use him though.

Brendan81

30 Jun 2013 14:39:11
Jred,
You seem to forget one little fact. On his wages he need to produce numbers like that to justify it. Look around and see who get paid wages close to him and the numbers they produce. He is in the top 5 or six footballer globally when it comes to wages.

If Kagawa did the same on his wages, you are right we would go into meltdown given what we got him for and his wages.

Shahram

30 Jun 2013 18:22:37
Sharham,
Do you judge a player on football ability against how much he gets paid?
Who had the better season last year benteke 23 goals on about 30k a week or Rvp 30 goals on about 170 k.

My point is people go on about Rooney not playing well for years but the fact is he's had one bad season the year before he got 34 goals in 40 games games which is an excellent return for anyone better than Rvp this year.
I'm honestly amazed people think he had a poor season 2011/2012 with that kind of return.
Jred

30 Jun 2013 10:29:39
I'm not in the know or anything but I've heard a rumour that were going to put a bid in for bale that will be £30 mill plus young and Anderson, and welbeck on a season loan. I think this could be a good deal especially as spurs need strikers and welbeck will get a lot more game time and hopefully come back a more experienced goal scorer.
Dannyc

30 Jun 2013 12:49:31
three players plus thirty mill? Unlikely.

So they give us one the best players around for a on loan striker who can't score, a midfielder who they don't need (Paulinho most likely coming in) and a average left winger.

I think they can do much better with just straight cash from Madrid and buy what they need on the transfer market.

Shahram

30 Jun 2013 09:58:45
is strootman rumours over, or have we just giving up?

That's right mike, we're just giving up. Moyes' new policy. Let Citeh and Chelski battle it out at the top, we're aiming for top half this year.

Does seem to have gone a bit quiet, hopefully will get some clearer ideas this week

Gone a bit quiet? Find me one official statement on Strootman, it's just rumours breeding rumours

I think he ment rumours linked to strootman we have gone quiet so maybe not so interested, like you say rumours nothing about any other club, i'm still hopeful of the big signing

30 Jun 2013 09:17:31
Thiago just posted a pic (instagram) of him sat on a rooftop pool. Caption he used was 'I Love Barcelona'

Not sure if its bad news but just passing on info to those whom haven't seen it

Fred the Red

Probably means he is not coming and he has got money and assurances from Barca. let's wait and see I guess.

Shahram

30 Jun 2013 10:53:07
Maybe he's saying goodbye to barcelona, after all he tweeted in English. If he was staying he would have put it in Spanish surely?

LOL I guess we all can't help ourselves and maybe reading into this stuff way too much.

Who know but for myself I have resigned myself to go with the flow and whatever comes off it as none of us have any control over this stuff. I do know one thing for sure and that is the fact that we will have a better team than last year and look forward to the new season.


Shahram

It was actually I (pic of Heart) Barcelona

Fred the red

Maybe his girlfriend is called Barcelona :)

Shahram

Or maybe he just loved he climates and the culture in that part of Spain, not forced to be the club, or he could be saying goodbye.

30 Jun 2013 08:29:12
Total rumour but I've just heard from a chelski fan friend of mine that the massive buzz round there club is a potential cash plus player swap involving torres and rooney (not sure about the + player bit). and it's all linked with the thiago bid (again don't know why but some kind of Spanish connection). if it came off what would you think?

Rooney hasn't been great but Torres? No thanks, unless it is Torres plus £25m.

Brendan81

30 Jun 2013 11:02:13
as much as I dislike rooney as a person and don't like his attitude or his fitness issues I can still recognise that when fit, interested and one form he's twice the player torres is. I don't think anyone would take that deal. What would torre even offer to the team?

30 Jun 2013 08:09:03
i know people are split over wether Rooney should stay or go but reading the papers today there are a few interesting articles, particularly the Mail. My thoughts are if he does go he should still earn a decent transfer fee. like I said the papers said some interesting stuff such as arsenal have already made a £20 mil bid now I don't know what you guys think but that kind of fee for Rooney just seems ridiculous. Benteke being quoted at£22 mil, Higuain £22 mil etc. Rooney is ten times the player either of them are I know he wasnt the rooney we know and loved last year but £20 mil! really?

28 to 30 million is probably a fair price and he is not what he was and people can see that and Higuain is an excellent player.

Also read we might extend him on the same basis of the current contract and if it is the choice of the two, I would rather sell as he is not worth that sort of wage and for 25 to 27 million I would take a willing buyer.

Finally, I think the club has intentions to sell him but wants to tie up targets and we will see this saga continue into late July and if we secure who we are after he is a goner or gooner maybe :)

Shahram

30 Jun 2013 07:02:52
One thing I believe is that united are still in a "wait and see" approach as there are new managers at bigger clubs (Madrid, PSG). Inevitably these managers are going to bring in their players and move along the ones who don't fit their system. It will be interesting to see who becomes available, especially at Madrid as they have quite a few who I believe will come available.