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31 Aug 2012 23:15:01
Mixed feelings but not the good signings v no CM but rather the fact that the Window is shut so the wild stories can stop but now bracing myself for the inevitable stream of "we're not good enough" posts. Lets just be united and follow whatever 11 pull the shirt on. Cheer up you gloomy gets!
31 Aug 2012 23:12:56
ok bond cheers i'll repost it tomorrow. Mort {Ed007's Note - :-)
31 Aug 2012 23:00:03
Fergie said......now believe it.....no more dreaming, lets get on with it.
31 Aug 2012 22:52:31
brian oviedo cost 2.5mil , how come we bought buttner for 3.75mil
Because to anybody who has watched them both play - Buttner looks a better player than Bryan Oviedo...
T0MB0Z
Dunno, do you think our scouts may possibly rate Buttner higher than Oviedo?
Shappy
31 Aug 2012 22:13:25
Apparently now MUFC Have said talks have broke down. They won't be signing anyone tonight
31 Aug 2012 22:12:40
we will not sign any1 2nite.
we do not need to sign any1 2nite.
Fletcher back at the end of september.
Also to those blinkered fans begging for a big powerfull holding midfielder HE IS ALREADY AT THE CLUB (PHIL JONES)
Peters8
ROFL
Phil Jones is not big and he does not have the brain to play in midfield. He's the new O'Shea. He can do ok at every position but he is good at absolutely nothing
Rofl how ca you say Jones is not good at anything ave you ever watched him play? He is still 20 years old and a very good player
Amazing how so many still love Nani after 5 seasons of inept display with probably 6 decent games in all and yet a 20yo with clearly a lot of potential in areas where we are short (right back / centre half / defensive mid) gets slammed after one season!
Jones may suffer from the fact that he can cover different positions but I feel he would come on leaps and bounds if given a more fixed role.
I've stated in earlier posts that I see our midfield 2 as Carrick and Jones alternating with Carrick and Cleverley. Clearly SAF has other plans with Anderson in the frame tho I'm conscious Jones is injured at the mo anyway.
I think this time next year we will be complementing Jones on a great season for us and saying goodbye to the likes of Anderson and Nani.
Halesini
Halesini well said. I think most people here forget that Jones is 20 and he will come good. Nani is s....t and we should sell him before his value comes down even some more.Shahram
31 Aug 2012 22:11:09
Macion only cost 3million?! I think we could have done with him for a couple years, expericed, would have been good and also let rafeal develop and learn from him, also having signed 5 players I'm still very disapointed with didn't sign a CM :/
LiamA
People have a tendency to think of Maicon as the powerful, maurauding RB of a few years ago when, in truth, he is no longer that player. Defensively he will be caught out by teams that play with decent wingers.
TK-Red
Hi legs went a few years ago and since then he hasn't been half the player. His skill was always evident going forward which he can no longer do to the same effect and when he tries he has a tendency to struggle getting back. Not a bad signing for that price - but not exactly the signing of the season...
T0MB0Z
That would be a daft idea, he is a right footed Evra. He has fallen from grace in much a similar way, thus he was available for 3m. Personally I think city have two better RB in Richards and Zabaleta.
Shappy
TK and Tomboz make good observations about Maicon's loss of pace. To be blunt we have that problem on the left with Evra hence signing someone like Maicon would be a retrograde step.
Rafael would not be my first choice RB if I'm honest. The game against Fulham epitomised his performance i.e. great going forward but an inability to defend! (scored, missed a good chance, good attacking flair / skill in midfield areas but gave the ball away needlessly under little pressure defensively).
Logically Jones will be Rafael's competition for RB this season (as well as him covering CB and DM!!)
Halesini
Maicon has lost his pace and that is bench material for a wingback, when you can't get back anymore. Shahram
We have a lot of guys who can slot in or cover right back if needed
31 Aug 2012 21:43:19
love this site, and all the banter, what are we going to do till jan 1st guys, best of luck, to the lads, think kagawa will be a gem, roll on the start of the next transfer window and all the speculation it will bring. {Ed007's Note - Drop by any time to discuss the team/season, we are busy on here all season.}
31 Aug 2012 22:00:46
Don't feel bad over lack of midfield signings, instead laugh at the scouters who let a £35 million striker go out on loan while not buying a replacement! Dumb arses eh?!
Donkey Dave
31 Aug 2012 21:58:17
Really... Is there anybody at Old Trafford or are the lights all off...?
Loveblood
I think i saw SAF and David Gill having a drink and a laugh at all the crazy money that clubs were spending in desperation hour. Shahram
31 Aug 2012 21:53:37
As much as I hope i'm wrong, Cabaye is never coming to us.
Jake F
31 Aug 2012 21:45:56
Tottenhams midfield is better than ours
Bale, dembele, moutinho, Lennon >>>>>> young/nani, carrick, cleverly, valencia
I know who I would prefere on my team, and who I would rather play against
What is SAF problem recently with buying world class centre midfielders, everyone bangs on about never being able to replace the likes of scholes, giggs and keane, we never will if we don't at least try aabit harder and look abit further than carrick and fletcher, they aren't world class, never have been and never will
Duggo
Valencia is better than Bale...Young and Nani both better than Lennon... Moutinho isn't joining, but fair enough Dembele is good but the rest isn't as good as you make out
RedKnight
Not really. Bale is a one trick pony, Lennon is less consistent than Nani and not as good on the good days, Dembele will not suit their style of play, Sigurdson is average, Parker is nothing more than a bruiser and will not last under AVB and Moutinho didn't sign as they weren't prepared to offer a realistic wage.
Valencia>Bale (I know they play opposite wings - but yeah), Nani>Lennon, Carrick>Parker, Kagawa>Dembele, Clevo>Sigurdson + we have Scholes and Ando.
Agree that we could have done with an M'Villa type signing - but I'm not envious of the Spurs midfield in the slightest and would not be keen to trade either our attacking or defensive options with them anytime soon either!
T0MB0Z
31 Aug 2012 21:28:40
Hi Guys
Clint Dempsey at Spurs Lodge
Bazza The Red
31 Aug 2012 21:23:29
Right I have had enough of the doom and gloom on here about transfers etc So......
Name the best 11 in the world right now !
_______________Hart
______Kompany__Vidic__Ramos
Valencia____Yaya___Xavi____Iniesta
______Ronaldo__________Messi____
_______________Falcao___________
GG93
Martinez is alot better than Valencia, what about swchienstieger or witsel.
reddevilfan
Sorry vidic is no longer in the best 11 he was injured for a whole season so impossible to be in best 11.
_____________Neuer
____silva____kompany____hummels__
iniesta__schweinsteiger___yaya____ozil
______messi______________ronaldo___
______________falcao_______________
sulei
Valencia in world 11?? U having a laugh, got red devil blinkers on you mate
Duggo
Beyond laughable. Valencia would barely get into a Manchester 11, let alone world. Hart is nowhere near the best keeper in the world.
_______Casillas___________
Kompany_____Vidic_____Ramos
__________Yaya___________
Pirlo__________________Iniesta
Ronaldo______RVP______Messi
---------Casillas---------
Alves--Vidic--Pique--Lahm
----------Yaya-----------
------Iniesta--Xavi-------
Ronaldo-------------Messi
----------Villa------------
T0MB0Z
Beyond laughable is a strong choice of phrase. Any world xi is opinion and there is no right and wrong. I mean, who would I be to question your choice to play with 10 players.
In my opinion any world XI has to include the Barca trio of Xavi, Iniesta and Messi.
I'd go.
Hart
Alves. Kompany. Vidic. Lahm.
Busquets.
Xavi. Iniesta.
Ozil.
Ronaldo. Messi.
Ben
Casillas is not the best in the world.
G.A.G.U.S
Well Tomboz we did have 3 of those players at one point. Letting Pique go because we had Jonny Evans coming thru wont go down as Fergie's finest hour. Accepting he's given us very very many of those.
Halesini
Pique was homesick and wanted to leave, he would not have been the player he is at barca if he had stayed and been unhappy at united. We let him go also because he needed games and at the time he was not as good as vidic or Ferdinand.
GDS
---------------Neuer
Lahm-Kompany-Vidic-Marcelo-
--Schweinsteiger-Yaya-
Ronny--------Messi-------Iniesta
--------------Falcao
Cech, Chiellini, Terry, Xavi, Alonso, Aguero and Higuain.
Jono
JoNo so no CR07 in world 11 ?
31 Aug 2012 21:14:15
O MY DAYS!!
It aint that long ago, the mighty chelski fans were like bots on our site laughing off United attempt to win the super cup.
Yes Utd where taught a lesson that night, but Chelski With all there MIGHTY MIDS are recieving more than a lesson!!
Who is laughing now Mr Mighty Blue Fan
Reddevilfan
( ouch it starts to hurts when i laugh )
I was bored so decided to venture across to their site and read some of the posts but did not post. Unbelievable how arrogant they are and some of them were actually pleading that abrahamovic just ponies up 60 million pounds for Falcao. The fairplay thing hopefully will come in and put a stop to this nonsense.Shahram
31 Aug 2012 21:04:10
I think we will see Cabaye at Old Trafford. Not exactly a bigman but a v.good all round midfielder. Eds?
-MelonRed
Yep he'll be there playing for Newcastle!
I really rate Cabaye and indeed Moutinho bur SAF clearly believes we have enough midfielders to cope.
Our midfield next season needs to look significantly different. Logically Scholes and Giggs will go into more coaching / youth development etc roles at the club but this likely to be their final season. Nani and Anderson both mooted in deals out of the club which have not transpired however can not see them in our midfield in 1314 season.
The surgery many feel our midfield needs now is clearly not going to happen until next year.
Halesini
31 Aug 2012 20:44:26
I posted a reply to i am kloot based on a forthcoming book coming out that he asked for info on but it never got posted as far as i can tell, was just a copy and paste jobby of the info. Did it vanish into the ether? Should i repost it 2moro? Mort. {Ed007's Note - I never seen it Mort, even I am scared of KLOOT so I wouldn't mess with his $h1t.}
31 Aug 2012 17:49:54
Just wondering if Ed007 is Kevin Bond?
1993 {Ed007's Note - Cheeky sod!! I had to Google him to find out who he was.}
Bond and Ed002 on a Saturday night.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QRy-PEgbls
G.A.G.U.S {Ed007's Note - I'll get you back for that GAGUS!!}
31 Aug 2012 21:13:39
Anderson will get more playing time along with cleverly, if he does not improve he will go out on loan the season after, possibly sold, THEN we may buy another midfielder, for now I think we have plenty, especially when fletcher returns
RM
What's the point in sending Anderson out on loan, he's been ere 6 seasons
Duggo
31 Aug 2012 21:06:28
Hazard Whats The Score, Hazard Hazard Whats The Score? Wonder if he's starting to regret choosing the European Champions now?! On this performance there's only one champion he should have joined and thats Athletico Madrid! TomP
Hazard is clearly a talent as his Prem performances thus far have shown. Luckliy we have Kagawa who is already destined to be a United great however if we didnt we would really rue Hazard picking Chelsea over us.
Halesini
31 Aug 2012 20:55:13
Everyone going over the top on transfer deadline day, again. Fergie said no more signings, take his word for it. The only likely activity is Nani going to Zenit. I can pretty sure we will be title contenders again this season and have a much higher chance of getting 1st place. Now stop moaning guys and enjoy your Friday night.
-JakeW
If Nani goes anywhere and we do not sign someone then that is a massive mistake by the club and fergie
Not united related but just seen king kenny running up to liverpool mumbeling im trying to sign for liverpool before dead line because i carnt be any worse than the players i signed a red united fan
Funny JakeW you said you had a feeling Witsel was coming only a couple of days ago, and that Dembele was "just what we need" just over a week ago and then "over rated just for one game" days later, are you suffering from schizophrenia?
Invisible STuey
31 Aug 2012 20:51:11
Sad day for English Football!
A smaller team of Spanish Liga murdering a giant of English football in Super Cup. Worst is, it halftime still. Stayed up late to watch a MATCH not a masacre.
I've always presume EPL to be the much tougher League.
Mystik_al
Chelsea were rubbish last year and probably the most undeserving winner of CL ever. Athletico Madrid is not too far off the Real and Barcelona and really good team.
Shahram
Shahram,
Seriously, where would you place Ath Madrid if they were to play EPL?
Most certainly above Chelrubbish....but where?
Mystik_al
Mystik Athletico would be in the top 3 with manu and city. They are a very good team and besides Falcao have some very good players. I rate their goalie very high and he is going to be a star. Shahram
We all saw Chelsea in CL last year and it was a fluke period and not a fair representation of english football. Drogba carried that team and he is gone thankfully. I guarantee if it was united or city playing last night it would have been very competitive and can't say who would have won. shahram
31 Aug 2012 20:50:23
is there any possibility we will sign a top player before the deadline
31 Aug 2012 20:32:51
What are the chances City offer a ridiculous sum for Falcao...?
MPez
Probably already have
He is unbelievable.
G.A.G.U.S
He's absolutely amazing
TEDDY BEAR
How can you say Falcao is amazing ? all he does is score goals .
'all he does is score goals' - lol.
Good job he's a striker then aint it. Quality player who could walk into any side. And there aint too many players you can say that about.
Halesini
31 Aug 2012 20:32:19
If someone offered all the players we have had this summer or one signing in Falcao I would tae Falcao every damn time he is the best striker I have seen in years.
Don't agree. We need to cash in on Nani and Rooney and then buy guys like Falco and Muniain. Shahram
The only disappointment for me in this transfer window is that we did not sell Nani. Unfortunately have to watch him play now that young is out.
31 Aug 2012 20:31:56
LETS for 1 second take time away from the despair of not signing anyone in cm and applaud Falco...
3-0 and getting torn apart..............
FALCO... please do not join chelsea....
31 Aug 2012 20:15:48
I got absolutely slated for saying I would sell Rooney for £40 or 50million and sign Falcao for the money but he is the best out and out striker in the world by far and would walk into any team around including Barcelona.
Mush
After that first half i would agree.
looked flipping fantastic
Did Athletico not pay £48M for him? why on earth would they sell him for an extra £2M or so.
IMO Aguero is THE best all round forward on the planet however I do this Falcao is a special player...although if we want him, we're talking Ronaldo money.
The Moon.
He one of the best in the world i agree but i sense i bit of MOTD fever Barcelona will only make him a winger e.g. david villa and Henry
FLASH
I agree 100 percent with you. I have been saying the same thing for a few months. He is ripping David Ruiz apart. Shahram
Better than Messi?
Ste-Utd
They bot him for 40mil euros which cud rise to 47mil euros
Moon both of them together would be a very sick pairing ....
I couldn't diagree more Moon there is no chance Aguero is the best striker on the planet I would put Higuain, Benzema, RVP, Falcao, Rooney ahead of him but it is all a matter of opinion.... Falcao would probably be sold for £60million so in all honesty if the chance came to sell Rooney and add £10million to that I would snap him up in a heartbeat
Moon he is better than Aguero, I read somewhere last year that SAF considers him as the best out and out striker in world football. I watch a lot of the spanish league and he is the best imho. BTW Athletico's goalie is also outstanding. Watch him over the next few years.
Aguero is no more rounded than Messi..... who is without doubt better... No?
Whistler.
Moon he is better than Aguero, I read somewhere last year that SAF considers him as the best out and out striker in world football. I watch a lot of the spanish league and he is the best imho. BTW Athletico's goalie is also outstanding. Watch him over the next few years.
Forgot to sign off. Shahram
Messi and Falcao and CR for me. CR and Messi will never be sold and the only thing with Messi is that look at who plays around him and you wonder what Falcao would be like if he had that sort of a supporting cast. Shahram
31 Aug 2012 20:13:31
Give up guys, no more signings will be made, I think we were waiting to see if a player became available to unveil him and henriquez, but this has not happened. We will have Fletcher back in a few weeks, I am happy with our squad, and the new signings, Kagawa looks unplayable and well RVP we know all about him, Powell looks very promising and hopefully Buttner is a benchwarmer, but makes Evra work hard to keep his place.
Jake F
31 Aug 2012 20:13:16
hi guys.i was thinking about when we lost cr7 and tevez u know we did not buy any replacement 4 them,but now i'm happy because now we have replaced them with rvp and kawaga and we didn't had cdm back then we had cr7 and tevez so have can people say we are not going to win the league.i'm sure this year with vidic back and kawaga,rvp we are going 2 rule and win atleast the league and like i said before the champions league;)sorry 4 (spelling) wrong,dont worry guys champions 20!!norway
31 Aug 2012 20:11:16
BowlDonBowl
Throwing the name Yohan Cabaye in to the hat.....
Off to Arsenal and getting #17
Devil for Life
31 Aug 2012 20:10:01
So our business is done for the summer which has been pretty clear since SAF told us but we all live in hope and end up gutted and frustrated at the obvious missing link in our team but we can not do anything about it so why moan instead of just getting on with it and supporting our team whether we are winning the champions league or struggling to avoid relegation..... Oh on another point why do people keep saying we are going to struggle to compete with the top 4 when clearly we will be up there with City and Chelski
31 Aug 2012 19:53:47
falcao looks amazing , eds how much wud athelico want if sum team bid for him?
Considering they broke their club record for him and paid 40 mill euros, I guess he is in the 60 million and more bracket and at the moment the best striker in the world and two footed which makes him very difficult to cover. Shahram
Falcao will cost alot Atlético Madrid paid around 30-35m in pounds so around 45-50m
FLASH
31 Aug 2012 19:30:10
Any news Ed on any more signings at all? {Ed004's Note - None}
31 Aug 2012 20:07:33
falcao looks amazing.. how many times we said that...
JK92
31 Aug 2012 20:03:47
Why oh why are so many people getting upset? Ferguson told you a few days ago....No More Signings....So why can't you get that through your thick skulls?
Why all the jealousy about City and Spurs....get a grip guys.....If Ferguson wanted a midfielder, he would got one....he didn't and hey presto he doesn't give a rubbish about your views or opinions......Rant over....so we'll go with what we have and play the game!
Er... any need for the thicko comment?
It's a forum that contains many supporters that are frustrated with certain aspects of our transfer activity spanning many years now.
If you can't understand that I would suggest that you dear sir are the thick one. Now p1ss off.
Timbo
Get off the PC Timbo and get back to playing FIFA12 .....lol. It's only there that you'll get your dream team....
Oh, ok then. We'll all go home and never express our opinions again, because you said so, NOT! Now jogg on.
31 Aug 2012 19:57:11
ou think we will sign anyone ed?
im hoping for witsel or busquets (twitter rumour) never happen though.
JK92 {Ed004's Note - No....}
31 Aug 2012 19:56:14
a website just said that Essien is available on loan, but NOT to Arsenal, he's not in the squad. Worth a punt surely!
Bryn Mez
31 Aug 2012 19:55:30
I know we all talk about world class but just watched Falcao make the Chelski boys look silly. World class striker and have posted this many times, Would trade Rooney for him any day of the week. 1-0 Shahram
2-0 Falcao. Incredible striker. No wonder SAF rates him as the best striker in the game
They are tearing Chelski apart and yes Falcao is a top striker in his prime.
3-0 Falcao. They are ripping Chelsea apart. I love it. BTW like i said before hazzard against decent competition is is average, so everyone just let's enjoy the season that we are about to embark on. Shahram
31 Aug 2012 19:53:49
Heard Essien may be coming to United on loan for the season, not my first choice for our midfield but will certainly fill the gap short term.
ericslovechild.
31 Aug 2012 19:51:12
Michael Owen seen in a betting office in wales, interestingly wearing his Utd tracksuit my sister in law served him, so dont look like stoke is a goer then?
31 Aug 2012 19:48:47
Lets face it people there will be no new players tonite.
As to those who question Sir Alex get a grip what he has done for utd in the last 20 years you havent got a clue.
In Sir Alex we trust you will all be crying when he does decide to step down and it will be a massive hole to fill.
31 Aug 2012 19:43:28
No one coming in, so team for Sunday I hope. 4-2-3-1. DDG; Rafael, Jones, Vidic, Evra; Carrick, Cleverley; Welbeck, Kagawa, Valencia; Van Persie. Not a bad old' team when you look at it.
An Dun Red Devil
I think Evans will play instead of Jones, but otherwise probably spot on!
RedDevil19
Jones is not in the squad but Evans is so swap them
ARB
31 Aug 2012 19:39:46
terrible transfer window for us
Who the hell are you no name.look at City buying an oap from Inter a guy who was languishing in Ipswich reserves namely Maicon and Robert Wright now they are bad signings get a grip
ARB
Yep absolutely awful transfer window. Signed Prem Topscorer and Bundesliga Player of the Year. Shocking.
Shall I start the Fergie Out chant now ?
Get a grip!!
Halesini
31 Aug 2012 19:28:16
Wife sent to bed early!
a web site on!
Crate of Kopperberg in the fridge!
Finger crossed for 1 more signing!
We all have hope in SAF
TEDDY BEAR
That was also ment to say a web site on !!!
31 Aug 2012 19:14:29
Maybe a tad controversial but I think at £3.5Million Nigel De Jong would have been a fantastic signing, Obviously being rivals the fee could have been slightly higher but for around £4-£4.5 Million it would still have been good buiseness. Wouldn't mind Essien on a loan until January! TomP
De Jong just looks a thug to me. Amazed he can be a Dutch international!
Halesini
31 Aug 2012 18:39:10
We sign RVP and Kagawa, best piece of buisness for year and still most of you complaint. Make my day and go support City!
In 3 year time we will be absolute force, no need to be that good now anyway..Real and Barca are miles away.
About the CM box to box midfield, i really believe SAF want Phil Jones to play there some day!
JLBER84
"No need to be that good now anyway...Madrid and Barca are miles away"
Please make my day and never post such crap ever again! Stupid stupid post.
Flimbo
Yes, lets just forget about being any good now...
Just because people moan doesn't mean they don't support the club. We only moan because we see quality box 2 box players go to other clubs when we should sign just one of them to complete our team.
RedDevil19
So what you are saying is we win noyhing ore dont compete for the next three im sure everybody would be happy with that a red united fan
Wow! The way u sai look like u r the owner of team. If we don't buy a CM do u really think aboug being a major force in Europe? U nutts
It's not about supporting our team, if you cant see that our midfield is average at best then you're kidding yourself. You were probably saying 3 years ago wait for Pogaba. Try watching a game objectively for once.
Absolute force ha ha ha ha please tell me how u person
What a load of twaddle. Happy we bought some decent players but I'd swap all of them for a decent cm.
Accept mediocrity... That's how we become arsenal.
I agree those two are miles away player for player but that doesn't mean we couldn't turn them over just like Chelsea did last season.
Its been plain as day that Fletcher coming back means we wont be signing another centre mid and clearly Fergie sees Jones can play that role too.
Will it be good enough to dominate in Europe ? Unlikely in my opinion and I would have loved to have seen Moutinho or Cabaye as they would instantly improve the team.
Clearly the major re-structuring our midfield needs wont happen for another year, i.e.
Giggs and Scholes - too old (accepting they are legends!)
Nani and Anderson - not good enough (consistently proven over 5 seasons now before anyone highlights Nani is 'world class on his day')
Halesini
31 Aug 2012 18:37:01
from what ive been seeing over twitter through various journalist links, apparently we are in talks with one target. The fee being the sticking point. One has said its Yohan Cabaye, whereas the others arent so sure at all, as everything is water tight right now. guess we will no exactly where we stand come around midnight tonight. fingers crossed we do get someone though. just thought i would share with you guys
partywolf
I have seen the same but time is running out...
31 Aug 2012 18:31:42
been waiting all day for news off a midfielder too come in . so it looks like it not going too happen . sick off watching a website telling us spurs signing 2 players and city getting 5 . only news on utd is berba going too fulham so F..k it i am for the pub .
31 Aug 2012 18:12:39
People on here make me laugh saying we don't need a midfielder we've missed out on players of real quality who are now not according to some are not utd class coz they have signed for other clubs. Lets face facts gIggs and scholes are league cup and fa cup players at best now. Anderson is not up to it because of injuries. Carrick who I think is a good player is too inconsistent cleverly is a good short passer of the ball. And kagawa looks a class act. I as does most utd fans know that we need a box to box midfielder. Lets face it are midfield will struggle a lot this season I know I will get slated for this post but I think it's time people woke up
31 Aug 2012 18:08:39
hi guys first time poster from norway,and love this site.i just want to say stop crying over a dm and support our team im starting to believe that we are not going to win nothing this year because of all the complaining i read on this page and dont forget,saf have sold beckham ronaldo etc and still we have won the league and we will still domin8 the league next 2012/2013 champions league winners red devils united 4 ever peace:)and if u guys are that good then maybe u should play cm!sorry(spelling)
31 Aug 2012 18:08:04
Can't believe Charlie Adam has gone to Stoke, he would have been so much better than Carrick / Scholes / Cleverley / Giggs / Fletcher / Anderson....
Sorry, just trying to pre-empt more nonsense.
AJH
Haha, it's not far off what I've come to expect!
APC
The one we missed out on was maurice edu
We could have converted Andy Carroll to a tough tackling defensive mid...
DodgyBanter
Isnt he the player liverpool brought to replace gerrard ha ha
31 Aug 2012 17:52:08
Sheesh, what a bunch of doom mongers. It seems every midfielder who has moved 'would have improved our team'. One word - b%#*^%#s. the hysteria is stunning, we've needed CMs since Keano left apparently...especially when we won 4 titles and a CL. Get a grip people.
SJH
That guy called Ronaldo brought us much of that and you must have seen the decline in standard since he left
Red Man
Yes...so it's not all about a box to box midfielder is it? Much of our issue last year was a lack of creativity. We need to strengthen the middle but RVP and Kagawa will have a huge impact this year.
AJH
When you have a player like Ronaldo it hides a lot of issues ; when you haven't got a player like him it highlights a lot of areas you are missing, Like a weak midfield as a start
Red Man
31 Aug 2012 17:49:59
So basically what everyone here is trying to stress at is that we cannot win it all with kids?
Really? Does this situation sound familiar? ;)
SAK
What kids? Carrick, Anderson, Scholes, Fletcher, these aren't kids.
Yes but fergie will not play the youngsters and they will leave like pogba a red united fan
31 Aug 2012 17:53:31
Iv read a number of comments on here saying they are sick of reading glory hunters complaining we haven't signed a midfielder and fergie knows best.
What a load of rubbish. For the last 3 years every united fan knows that's our weakest area. It's not new complaints we've wanted a decent mid for years. Personalky I would swap all our signings this summer for a top quality mid. You compare our midfielders to the rest of the top premiership sides and we ate weak. Spurs have just bought 2 midfielders and either would have improved us.
I'm a massive fan of petrucci and tunnicliffe but suspect both need another season or two before they are ready and we weren't able to keep our best young centre mid in pogba. Had we kept him I wouldn't mind so much. But anyone who is ignoring or worse doesn't recognise our weakness is being decidedly myopic about our team or really over rates our current midfield.
Would anyone here currently put any of our midfielders in the top ten in the premiership?
Interesting follow up. In order top ten cm's currently playing in the prem.
Red Bear
It's so obvious. And I for one feel entitled to question the wisdom of the manager, but more so his spineless minions that clearly don't have the bottle to tell SAF he's got this one wrong. The game has changed over the last 2-3 seasons, and I'm afraid that our management team are not adapting with it.
I may love the budge, but I can't help but feel frustrated. Not because I fear we will not win anything, but because I can't remember the last time we put in a real performance. I may like winning trophies, but there's nothing better than the adrenaline rush of fast, attractive, clinical football... and I don't remember when I last saw that!
Sorry. But it's true.
Timbo.
I agree. The arguement of fans jumping on the bandwagon of any cm going is bullsh. Everyone knows we need one, it's plain to see, and has been highlighted again in recent games. Ever since the loss of Fletcher, and the evident failure of Anderson - wether it's injury, form or fitness -. The fact is, we are told we have plenty in this area, Carrick, Cleverly, Anderson, Fletcher if he comes back, Scholes part time, Jones can play there maybe, Giggs can. But today, which of our squad is a world class pair? and wheres the world class cover? . So it's not a coincidence that we've been linked with every top cm available for the past 3 seasons, and no coincidence that we are bidding (albeit low) for them. [Kagawa was obviously not this signing as the bids and interest in Modric, Moura Dembele etc were independent of this] So if (when) the window closes and we STILL have not addressed this area, are we all really just going to say, yet again "Oh well, Fergie knows best, let's back the team we have and hope for the best"
I think the anger from fans over the lack of a 1st team cm signing is justified.
31 Aug 2012 17:45:21
green eyed monster lol, its been obvious for the last couple of years that the midfield needed addressing yet saf still started the everton game with scholes, dont get me wrong, scholes has been a great servent for us but the guy is not going to match todays midfield of lower teams, our midfield lost out miserably in the everton and fulham games, wait till we meet the better teams, europe is going to be a miserable failure once the big teams come into the picture.
anderson has never been good enough for midfield, ferguson willtake a while to get back and even when he does he is still not a quality cm, time will tell but i honestly think just as many of you do that the midfield has been and still is the weak spot in the team.
31 Aug 2012 17:37:27
So Berbas gone, id just like to say a big thank you and good luck to him, i really hope he becomes the player he was and is capable of being, a true professional, never moaned or gave us any problems, just didnt work out for him :( and even on his way out he had nothing but nice things to say about united, and that he achieved his dream by playing for us and he's happy for that, Good luck Dimitar and im sure i speak for all United fans :)
Rouge Diablo :)
31 Aug 2012 17:10:41
Chicken Licken or what? Reading the latest posts on this site you would think the sky was about to fall in!
First, Totenham may have bought Dembele & Moutinho but they have lost Modric & Van der Vart. Also we have SAF when they have Inspector Gadget.
Second, Man City may have bought Javi Garcia and Maicon (31 & skinned alive by Bale) but they have lost de Jong & Micah Richards (maybe).
The only teams out of last year's top five that are obviously stronger this year are Man Utd & Chelski. We have four quality new signings and three CM's coming back to fitness in Cleverly, Anderson and Fletcher.
Either way, it's only four months until the next transfer window opens!
^ thats funny.
Micah Richards leaving Manchester city
You're having a laugh.
More likely that Anderson will become would class.
he is the symbol of Manchester city's effort towards self sustainance.
No chance
Jauganaut
"effort towards self sustainance" really and what effort is that?
31 Aug 2012 16:42:49
what are our chances of gettin dawson?
Why would we, we have better players on our team. Shahram
And whose place would he take? Vidic? Rio? Evans? Smalling? Jones?
AJH
31 Aug 2012 16:59:53
Thats Mountinho gone aswell!
Anyone else starting to think we was never in for a solid centre midfielder.
It is truely gutting, If giggs starts any game at centre mid and we let players of the likes of Mountinho move to Spurs without us throwing our names in without any explanation then i guess the situation at Manchester United is worse than its being portrayed.
A usually positive red feeling all but deflated
Cban
Its fairly obvious that we wern't ever in for a CM because we have made no bids for any! If anyone can prove me wrong then please do! If fergie see's it as a problem we would have signed one the same time we signed Kagawa and not with 4 hours to go. Christ!
DanB
31 Aug 2012 16:54:05
Moutinho deal has hit a scupper. Has news come out to his agent that United are interested. Get him to Heathrow to Manchester Gill. Sign him up.
He isn't even in England yet
Redknight
31 Aug 2012 16:48:05
Yesterday, Wayne had tweeted that it was all a load of rubbish and David Gill has kept the momentum going by remarking to the media,
"Wayne is definitely not for sale and I can categorically say there has been no discussion within the club or with his agent."
"He is still in a long-term contract with us and is very integral to our team."
"Wayne's a great player who has got a bad injury - but he will come back."
"He didn't start on Saturday for various reasons. Alex Ferguson picks the best team to win the game and that's it."
"He's a manager who's been so successful and there will be rotation."
jred
31 Aug 2012 16:39:50
Guys chill we have done well in the market already SAF knows his business in him we trust
31 Aug 2012 16:34:57
So the saying is: No smoke without fire.
Well theres not even any smoke! :(
31 Aug 2012 16:29:35
I am annoyed on how everyone keeps moaning on how we need a midfielder and how lucky we are going to finish in the top four. I say stop moaning, back our team and trust the boss cause only he knows. Us fans have to back Sir Alex and the team and support manchester united cause we can do the impossible
31 Aug 2012 16:29:24
Wouldn't it be nice to pinch Moutinho off Spurs last minute.
Levy always seems to want to rip us off & has always seemed to get one over us.
23:56 we sign Moutinho.
BUT WE WON'T :-(
That would be too late anyway, window shuts at 11pm..
JK92
31 Aug 2012 16:21:23
took day off wrk 2 watch transfer deadline hoping we sign a player of the calibre that we need in cm. lets face it we dont have the money.we did strengthen but others have done better sad but true. re fletcher people are getting desperate he comes back soon at the end of the day how many top prem teams would he be in the starting 11:(
Why did ya take the day off work just to watch transfer deadline day?!?!? your gonna be out a days pay and united arent gonna sign anyone....so at 11pm tonight ur gonna be fairly pissed off
Took day off work? Crikey, you need a hobby mate. The only team whose transfer business is as good as ours is Chelski. Obsessing abut a CM is pointless, SAF clearly couldn't see/get what he wanted. Apparently, every CM who has moved 'would have improved our team'. Give me strength...
AJH
31 Aug 2012 16:12:26
surely we have to bid for m'villa 12-15m or witsel 20-25m!!
31 Aug 2012 16:09:06
sly sports reporting that city have agreed a fee of 16 mill for garcia thats a very good price
jred
Thats initial fee... Will work out at £24million which is quite a lot for a RM reject
RedKnight
31 Aug 2012 16:02:16
Wish you guys would quit moping around - ''Awww City and Tottenham are signing people on deadline day, my lady parts hurt!'' Yes, we could have signed dembele but we didn't so get over it. Some people here just want to sign players for the sake of it. At the end of the day we have had a very decent transfer window and have bought a creative midfielder which we desperately needed as well as some exciting prospects and a world class striker. Yes, we may not have signed a DM but things could have been a lot worse. There are clubs like Portsmouth who struggle to pay their players and may be heading towards extinction yet you lot act like we are doomed because we missed out on one player. So just accept we are done for this transfer window and live with what we've got.
SB
Agree completely. Everyone is ignoring the great players we have signed and focusing on on pretty much every midfielder going. It's a team game, a great individual doesn't always improve a team, let's cheer the team on and enjoy the ride.
AJH
31 Aug 2012 15:58:21
I'm starting to find it a bit weird that all OUR transfer targets are being signed? first rodwell, now dembele, garcia, moutinho!
nov00
And how is it you know these were our transfer targets? According to the press, we were after circa 30 players. Do you have hotline to SAF?
AJH
31 Aug 2012 15:46:28
Berbatov deal done, And he's gone to Fulham, Good luck to him, Class player and deserve's to get playing time. (TheInvisibleMan) P.S. I hope we do buy someone this afternoon,
31 Aug 2012 15:37:25
utd to sign frostie the snowman , well he would fit in well in your midfield, he would melt away when the heat is on, boom boom...............lfc
Given the signings we have made and LFC have made, theres no doubt in my mind which id prefer, only signing youve made id be interested in is Sahin.
LFC fans make me laugh your a joke!
Oh that was hilarious LFC! But not as funny as your delusions of winning something, now that's comedy!!
Flimbo
Wow. This might be the lamest thing I've ever heard.
Keep kicking that Tumbleweed...
BornInToIt
Nice performance last night, your goalie looked so good, the bumbling fool
Best banter for a while "..........lfc", we will of course finish at least 30 points ahead of you in the league tho.
DodgyBanter
Liverpool to re-sign Torres, Alonso and the rest of their squad from years gone by and become relevant again.....
Jacky'sBrown
Lfc when liverpools main transfer target is clint dempsey and you cant even sign him i dont think theres anypoint coming on here! You and blair came on here last season saying spearing is better than clev and the only team with interest is bolton! Adams gone to stoke u said hes better than anderson but benfica want anderson! Tbf stoke want that donkey henderson too! QK made more mistakes in 1 window than fergie has ever!
Just a little humour , hope you get that tough tackling box to box midfielder that sydney always says you need , but then again just maybe after a 6 year wait, anderson could have a good season..............
ps, anderson looks not too bad so far to be fair , i mean he only looks a stone over his proper weight..............lfc
Who's laughing now!! Agent Brendan Rogers has kept his side of the bargain! ha.
Flyhalf(Mitch)
31 Aug 2012 15:37:12
ok so berba signs for fulham
and gets the no.9 shirt
good luck to him and hopefully now we bring someone in!
TRUMORS
31 Aug 2012 15:27:42
Why do people keep posting saying we are missing out on every midfielder that moves clubs and that they were targets etc.... Clearly they just wernt targets not every name you hear is wanted by us.
How can someone disagree with a fact ? Some people really do make me wonder sometimes.
31 Aug 2012 14:52:45
dembele, moutinho, sigurdson 3 midfielders which would have improved us, what is fergie doing, needs to open the cheque book and sniper the moutinho deal!
ed's do any of you think we will make any last minute deals?
Dembele? Sigurdson? Really? Perhaps we should have signed Charlie Adam, he's brilliant isn't he?
AJH
31 Aug 2012 15:14:00
This deadline transfer day is depressing me... How can fergie just sit there and watch the likes of dembele go for 15mill now moutinho go for 22mill! A don't get it.. Does fergie watch the games anymore?? Our midfield is shocking.. Giggs scholes,carrick,Anderson arnt good enougth,, we can only say we lost the title on goal difference... But city wa dominate and deserved champs... When the likes of fulham,everton walk all over our midfield, the problems av to be addressed,, I realy don't get what's going on but this pains me but city,Chelsea,spurs,look a lot stronger than us on paper,, and we will struggle this year
Shocking? And did you watch the Fulham game? You need to see a Doctor mate, he'll give you some tablets.
AJH
31 Aug 2012 15:13:06
Once again another w...nk transfer window for utd fans
City get garcia and Macon and spurs get moutniho and Dembele and utd get anOther season on Michael side backpass can't hit a ball forward carrick and anderson jacamo predator and a rubbish michael Jackson I'm fed up Of this club
Im starting to wonder how arsenal fans feel every season
Are you for real van persie one of the best strikers in the world,kagawa is total class,powell looks a very good signing as does buttner and henriquez is a real class attacker as you will soon see,yes i would of liked a top class midfielder in but not as bad as you say i bet your fun in the pub after a game or prob during it.
31 Aug 2012 15:12:22
Eds - seeing as your are better informed than most of us - any action today? {Ed007's Note - Hopefully later on tonight when Ed002 gets back in the country. It is the weekend and I have been lonely at night while she has been away. Absence makes the heart grow stronger and all that.}
Very funny 007 :-)
Flimbo
Bond
It also makes the wrist grow stronger ;-)
Jono
Ed007 .. Not just the heart that absence effects :)
Mike {Ed007's Note - :-)
31 Aug 2012 15:12:06
With man sh***y bringing in maicon why don't we put a sneaky bid for micah Richards awesome right back and solid in centre back as cover??
Whitey
Ps. a website have just said no other business apart from registering henriquez and berbatov's exit.
Because we need a midfielder not a full back
Simmo
Richards is rubbish. And hes injured, wouldnt pass medical
31 Aug 2012 15:07:14
Moutinho and Dembele, not a bad center pairing is it.
Simmo
31 Aug 2012 14:55:03
Gutted. Tottenham sign dembele AND moutinho and city could sign FIVE players today but we're not even attempting to sign the midfielder that even my blind dog can see we need. However after 11pm we just have to get behind whos wearing the red shirt and forget about who we think should be wearing it and who shouldn't.
Ozzy
To be fair, Cities 5 include: Sinclair, Wright and Maicon... None of them would get a game at United.
Gar
Well said
Rodio17
31 Aug 2012 14:42:13
I know most of you don't believe in God He who sees and knows tomorrow,but take this;
Man Utd will become English champion,FA cup winner and Champ.league winner come next year.
Kagawa--excellent
RVP --excellent
Andeson-excellent
Nani --excellent
Powell --excellent
DDG --excellent
Every genuine fan of MUFC should write this down and the date.whether you believe in God or not.
Ask me my name!
Your name is Mr. Deluded
Simmo
I would have put Vidic and Rooney in that list before Anderson, Powell and Nani
31 Aug 2012 14:37:08
22 mil for moutinho why are we not in for him
Mufc
31 Aug 2012 14:32:31
Now city have agreed a few for Garcia from Benefica. All our midfield targets are being signed, just not by us. What this does mean is that any Witsel transfer is even less likely with Benefica £24 million richer
31 Aug 2012 14:32:22
22mil for moutinho to spurs
24mil for garcia to city
we really need this type of player at our team
31 Aug 2012 14:26:59
Hello Eds, first time poster to this wonderful site. I am addicted to this site. Just to say for the first time in many years, I have taken a closer look at our squad and compared it to others. I must say its scary we haven't yet gotten the deep playing midfielder (a Roy Keane) kinda player we need. Its worrying though I trust SAF. I have been combing through transfer rumour sites hoping to catch a story of us being linked to a good CM. Does anyone think there is a chance of us getting one before 11pm?
Titifils {Ed007's Note - Thanks mate and welcome.}
31 Aug 2012 14:25:26
everton get brian oviedo for 5mil we spent 3.5 mil for buttner not saying buttner isnt good still havnt seen him play, but we all can agree is that oviedo is more established and for an extra 1.5 mil we cud of got em
31 Aug 2012 14:09:47
Transfer deadline day still boring for us. . .
Maybe we can make a big shock, but highly unlikely
31 Aug 2012 14:07:03
Spurs agree £22m for Moutinho..! Don't tell me thats not value for money Fergie..!
31 Aug 2012 14:04:09
Haven't been able to post for a while now, through a combination of my house being flooded, preparing for University and my posts not being posted. But if there was one player I could bring in right now, it would be Fellaini, he is an absolutely top player. Would love to see him here, and he's still young.
Percy {Ed007's Note - I've never had a problem with any your posts Percy that I can think of. I would doubt you were banned or blocked. They do say these things come in 3s.}
Thanks bond, I'm just itching to make an I told you so post about Nani, so I'm glad I haven't been blocked or banned!
Percy {Ed007's Note - Have a hug (((((())))))))
31 Aug 2012 13:52:25
We will not be getting anyone else has to make u think is there any real money. Once again the associations with Hazard and Moura reek of trying to con the fans into thinking we are still a buying club. They knew all along what Moura wanted and kept apparently going back with bids that they knew weren't going to clinch the deal. Same with Hazard if they really wanted them they would have gone in and bought them straight out.
Absolutely embarrassing by the so called richest club in the world yet cannot compete with europa league teams like spurs in the transfer market. OR is it that Fergie has gone past senile after fielding our weakest ever European squad he's not acted in the midfield area that everyone else who has watched footballs knows, the midfield is a complete joke. Last year he insisted on signing more wingers this year more strikers when we are crying pout for at least 2 talented midfielders.
Don't be pathetic, the club were very close to signing LM and Hazard was very much on the radar. Just because we missed out doesnt mean we didn't want them. Grow up.
Andy
"fergie..... Senile"
Tell you what sonny boy next time leave a name so we can insult your lack of intelligence personally
By the way have you checked back with your village - they could well be missing you.
Mike
We agreed a deal for Lucas all he needed to do is sign the contact than when P$G came in FLASH
31 Aug 2012 13:44:57
if united were to sign anyone today, it would be after they cut off some of the wage bill ie berbatov leaving, then maybe we may get someone in??
31 Aug 2012 13:42:21
You just put a slightly different slant on it - seriously, stop following me on here now it's getting weird. I don't crop up on every one of your posts, I don't need to - half the board talks you down for me.
RED_SKY
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This is a banter site mate, if you don't like people commenting on your posts don't post on here. I am allowed to disagree with you surely?
I am not 'following you' I post quite a lot to all different people, some in agreement some in disagreement, it is what this site is all about.
Nobody talks me down, they disagree with my opinion and they are welcome to do that, if there was any abuse the Ed's wouldn't even post it.
Nice that you had to make a banter discussion about football personal though.
Are you going to get behind the lads now and enjoy the season and your hobby that is football, or be on here complaining when we only win a match by 1 goal when we should have won by 9?
COME ON UNITED, LETS PROVE THE DOUBTERS WRONG AND GET OUR TROPHY BACK!
GDS
I'll back us every game but unlike you mate, I REFUSE to be blinded by loyalty and swallow everything I'm told. I WILL question our midfield every single time it fails to live up to expectations. And IMO, that will be a good few times this season.
Anyway, 3pts on Sunday and you'll be claiming I and others have been proven wrong. I'll see you in May, until then, I can't be bothered with this tit for tat nonsense.
1.5hours and I'm out of here, dreading the bus home from work as that's 1hour that I can't be keeping an eye on the window! Then it's beers on ice and bitter disappointment on the CM front!
1-2 United or 1-3 United Sunday, hopefully.
RED_SKY
Thing is, your expectations are that we win nothing as we are not good enough, so in fact we will live up to your expectation every time we fail and we will surpass it every time we win a match.
If we win on Sunday we are hardly world beaters are we, like if we lose a match to Everton we are not the worst United team ever like some would have you believe.
God forbid we have some banter on here, enjoy your evening.
GDS
R.S its not about being blinded by loyalty. Its about always being loyal. A true fan complains etc but they complain because of their love for this club. If fergie thinks weve enough in midfield then ill believe him. If he thinks the youngsters coming through will be good enough in the next 1/2 years then ill believe in it. Manchester Uniteds has always had belief in youth coming through. If in 2 years time we are winning with petrucci cleverly tunnicliffe lindgard youll be the first to say im so glad we didnt block their progress! For now i think we have enough especially with Carrick back holding, love him or hate him he does a thankless job for us, very well.
GALWAY RED
31 Aug 2012 13:32:46
Get ready for angry scousers trying to pull some wind ups i the next few hours....
I'm betting the Fabregas one was the first.
Dan
31 Aug 2012 13:31:54
okay, spurs are probably gonna get moutinho i mean come on, now they have two world class midfeilders in about 3 days and we buy an 18 chilean striker and RVP which in my opinion was a panic buy really. looks like were gonna get dominated against spurs aswell, great.
I Agree RVP was a panic buy, UTD showed interest in him and got the fans all hyped up about the chance to buy him, and SAF got caught between a rock and hard stone.
LBH we only got RVP because no other team bid for him, that's why SAF waited so long before buying him ( in hope some other team came in for him )
If SAF had not of signed RVP, i could just imagine the crowds outside OT.
Reddevilfan
World class?
Percy
Great two good midfielders... still got an average defence and average strikers, two of the most crucial parts on the pitch
RedKnight
Neither Dembele or Moutinho can be described as "world class" midfielders at this stage of their careers.
And you may have missed the fact we also bought Kagawa, Buttner and Powell as well.
DarkLard08
Darklord
They can be described as better than Cleverley, Carrick, Anderson and Scholes that's all you need to know.
Simmo
31 Aug 2012 13:30:35
Lets take a look at our midfield options. The two slots in front of the back four.
Scholes
Cleverley
Fletcher
Carrick
Anderson
Powell
Petrucci
Tunnicliffe
Lingard
Jones
Kagawa
Rooney
Giggs
Sydney!
Here's a little question for you Syd - I challenge you to pick 5 players from that list who you feel are world class and ready to perform at the highest level this season
Flimbo
Flimbo, I challenge you to name ANY team, including Barca that have 5 "world class" centre midfield players.
Worldclass is an overused phrase. Rooney, Kagawa, Cleverley, Carrick, Anderson & Scholes are all very capable players for the midfield. Even Jones could be good with proper run in there. Would have liked a solid midfielder like witsel, but the players above are very capable players.
Why do we need 5 Flimbo?
GDS
Filimbo - Agree that we could do with strengthening - but there's only 2 cm positions available at any one time (3 at a push). I'd say Scholes, Rooney and Kagawa are 'world class' and that having Ando, Carrick, Clevs and Fletcher (if he makes it back into the first team picture) as backup isn't too shabby.
If we had 5 'world class' CM players (which you seem to be calling for) we'd end up losing 2 of them anyway as I doubt they'd be too happy sitting on the bench. Before you come back with 'it's a squad game' - you don't spend £20m-£30m on a player to have him warm the bench for 50%+ of your games - and the best players wouldn't stand for that.
On top of that - 'World Class' players expect world class wages. With financial fair play regulations coming into play soon adding 2 more players on £100k+/week wages doesn't seem too bright!
T0MB0Z
Flimbo that is just pathetic mate there is not one team on the planet that has 5 world class midfielders not even Barca or Madrid..... Unless you throw the word around about everyone.
GG93
Scholes
Cleverly
Carrick
Anderson
Jones
Kagawa
Rooney
Giggs
DodgyBanter
Just to point out to those who failed to read the question properly - the question was to name 5 world class "midfielders" as opposed to "centre midfielders" and i'd also like to add that the question was put to Sydney as I was interested in his opinion rather than challenging it!
But to answer the question no name put to me -
Not one team with 5 world class midfielders?
How about Yaya Toure, Samir Nasri, Javi Garcia, David Silva and Jack Rodwell?
OR
Mata, Hazard, Lampard, Oscar, Ramirez and Marin?
Flimbo
Oh and heres another one GG93
Ever seen Bayern munichs' midfield?
Schweinsteiger, Ribery, Javi Martinez, Robben, Kroos and Shaqiri
I think thats enough to close that big hole in your head on this issue
Flimbo
Flimbo, out of that list I would say just Yaya & Schweinsteiger are world-class at this moment in time. But all very good players. We have some very good players too, hows about:
Rooney, Valencia, Kagawa, Cleverley & Scholes.
Anyway I am off out on the p1ssssss now and to be continued......
Sydney!
Flimbo - How did people misread the question? You said 'from that list' - which happened to be a list of central midfielders!
Anyway. To call Rodwell, Oscar, Marin, Martinez, Kroos and Shaqiri world class is a little laughable. They're all exceptionally talented young players - but what have any of them done to even remotely come close to earn being referred to as world class?
Martinez has had 2 good seasons at an average Spanish team, Shaqiri has had 2 good seasons in the Swiss league, Oscar - the Brazilian, Kroos and Marin - the German, etc.
Rodwell has had 3 injury plagued seasons at Everton and Garcia is just an average player who couldn't cut it in Spain and at 25 has only managed 1 appearance for the national team. Considering Biscuits is ahead of him in the pecking order for the national team - I think that says it all.
Giggs, Scholes, Rooney and Carrick have played at the top level for years - winning season after season - so imo - are far more worthy of being called 'world class' than most of the people you listed.
T0MB0Z
Syd
Rooney can hardly be classed as a natural midfielder and Scholes is way passed his best, Cleverley hasn't done anything of note at the top level yet which leaves Valencia as the only real candidate, so that's 1 out of that list which proves my point!
Anyways there is obviously much more pressing issues my side as well as I'm off out as well, to be cont...
Flimbo
TOMBOZ
Since when have Rooney and Giggs been classed as CM?
And tell me this then, are you seriously saying that at this moment in time, Giggs, Scholes and Carrick are among the best in the world and capable of winning the Champions League?
Flimbo
Firstly - I didn't add Rooney to Syd's list of players - and was only answering your question (who on that list is world class). Secondly - I didn't call any of the players world class - but said that they were better players than half of those you listed.
I'd say that Scholes is still amongst the best in the world though when it comes to his position and what he does. He's a different player than he was in his younger days but can still do what he does better than 99/100 players. With the right team around him (which will inevitably include Carrick) he certainly could be part of a champions league winning side (as he was 4 years ago).
Truth be told I don't see us winning the champions league this year - but it's certainly possible. One only has to look at Chelski winning it last year to see that stranger things can happen in football.
T0MB0Z
31 Aug 2012 13:23:36
Sneijder must miss being the centre of attention on deadline day.
Sychlops
31 Aug 2012 13:06:01
Whats the deadline to sign up a new assistant manager?
Cban
31 Aug 2012 13:04:51
my mate just saw witsel outside the manchester airport but dont know whether its for united or city {Ed007's Note - Anyone can use the airport, even people who aren't from Manchester at all.}
You sure it wasn't that kid from diversity? they have the same hair!
DanB
31 Aug 2012 13:03:01
Can everyone just finally conclude that there will be no more transfers. Henriquez will be the only other signing as expected, Lets not try and twist fergie's words he said NO MORE SIGNINGS and he honestly means NO MORE SIGNINGS
RedKnight
What he really means is "No More Money"
Flimbo
Flimbo
Spot on mate, £5m for Dembele was all we needed to know. Every season I tell myself we're done, it doesn't stop the dreamer in me gazing longingly at the Sly Spurts infobar.......
RED_SKY
Still no one can prove we bid 5m for dembele. somebody prove it and I'll believe it!!
DanB
31 Aug 2012 13:01:19
lots of reports about garcia and m'vila to city
we need a player of this calibre.......
come on gill & fergie
31 Aug 2012 12:42:15
SAF has said the main reason he left out Rooney last weekend was due to the fact that he was not as fit as the other strikers.
Is this SAF being genuine? because if so, does it not annoy fans that a player who earns £150,000 a week as a basic wage cannot even get himself fit like everyone else?
Will someone, anyone, Ed's please explain this to me because I'm obviously so thick I don't understand how this happens?
J Bones.
Maybe a slight strain in the pre season build up setting back his progress? I'm guessing, don't know.
He got rested longer due to euros I think, maybe that's why he said Kags was fitter?
DodgyBanter
Completely agree, when i think about how much rooney earns and his lack of performance (not so much goals last season) and sloppy passes it makes me wonder why his pay isnt docked. ronaldo and messi always perform and dont know why ive mentioned these 3 players in same sentence cos rooney isnt a patch on either
Well i guess he saw way we all saw. he was unfit and rubbish against everton and i guess ver poor professional conduct to show up in his shape for the new season. I am now agreeing with Syd's view that this is his last year and united will sell him next summer.It is a very clear message from say.shahram
31 Aug 2012 12:49:13
As much as i would, like so many of you guys, like to see a decent central midfielder , i just cant see anymore signings coming in to OT. get this Fabregas out of your heads, ( ha) absolutely ridiculous .
PW87MUFC
31 Aug 2012 12:46:23
"Julio Cesar aiming for Premier League title with QPR"
Oh my days, does this fellow know who QPR are?
MPez
31 Aug 2012 12:41:36
Both SAF and David Gill have said there will be no more signings this transfer window. They expect Berba to move on, but the only ither movement might be loans going out of the club, for which the deadline is in a week's time, not today, so there is no rush.
All this talk about players coming in is just that, talk. It ain't gonna happen, guys.
Mike B.
31 Aug 2012 12:41:09
Here is my analysis of the our transfer and the current team and and possibly interpreting what Saf is thinking.
Transfer Window
Midfield is in everyone mind, but lets address that later.
Attacking
Kagawa and Robin Van Persie will improve any team. RVP without the doubt with his goal scoring ability and game understanding will help in making sure, situation like last year will never happen again. And he will be great and probably the best(out there) mentor for Chicharito, Welbeck, Henriquez, M Keane and future strikers from our Youth system. Hopefully with good rotation, he will be able to stay injury free.
Shinji Kagawa, is and going to be the most important player and fan's player of the season. If only there is someone in his mould or likes of Iniesta, Silva, Mata in our team with a strong DM, our midfield will be able to challenge any team. His movements, game understanding and assist is so beautiful and being an Asian, he makes me Proud. The way he turns so quickly with ease is like Iniesta. Although he plays the link between midfield and attacking front, the fact that he can hold and likes to receive the ball and sprays all over the pitch makes him able to control the tempo of the team. I wish and hope that he will keep on improving if not better than Iniesta hopefully on same par.
Nick Powell, last year in League 2, if you take away the penalty goals from the highest scorer, he will be the top scorer. And arguably league 2 goal of the season would go to him. He just needs to do more short passes and retain the ball. His shots are powerful and accurate. He can tackle, create and reads the game so well. He will most likely get most playing time from under 21 team. I think if played in 1st team, he should start as winger giving him less pressure(of playing in midfield) and freedom to take on players and drop in to create or spray or shoot. Or in 3 men midfield with more mature players. He definitely needs to play as many game as possible. Last year he makes 64 appearance.
I am sure he will be amazing player(I think he can be converted into great CM without ruining him), and looks like very nice boy.
Angelo Henriquez, well he was destined for us and I think he will take the chance with his both hand. Oozes talent and if he continues he will be one of the best striker and he can play just behind the striker! But still it is too early to say anything.
Buttner, being a former winger, his attacking, pace and his powerful left foot is very good. Watching the game against Hotspurs, he can defend and reads the game very well. He is sort of player who wants the ball and likes to run with it and take on players. Given more games(didn't had very successful preseason), I think he will give Evra the challenge for Lb spot and might even edge over Evra(possibly bringing the best out of Evra).
Current team
Last year we did Well. Obvious they are horrible ones one top of my head against Newcastle, Everton, Wigan, City and those champions league and Europa league games.
In the absence of our captain Vidic and fighter Fletcher, we had to call back a retired legend and play Giggs in Midfield.
Seeing the success of pre season in our midfield in terms of health. Cleverly played so many games, Ando, Carrick, Scholes is fit and Fletcher is almost back. And the likes of Nick Powell, Tunnicliffe and Petrucci ready to step up. Speaking of youth midfielder, I am so looking forward to Adnan Januzaj, M. Daehli and Andreas Pereira. By the time they are ready to take on the Theatre to Dreams, SAF probably won't be our manager and whoever is next manager manages to keep them(if we can just keep them I think they will prove to be football legend.).
Lb and Rb position are sorted in Rafeal, Evra, Buttner, Vermijl and of course there even cover from our CB and youth.
I know right now there is defender crisis, but Evans is back, hopefully rest of them will be come back very soon. With cover of Wootton, Keane and Blackett defending would be where it was 3 or 4 years ago. I think we might even sign young CB(rumours of Kurt Zouma or Liam Moore)There is only 2 way of looking at Saf announcing the end of transfer in for Man utd.
1 What he said really took man utd of transfer rumours, man utd used to be linked to every single promising or big players. Obviously, now we can start developing the chemistry of team. With likes of maturing Cleverly, Ando, Jones, Smalling, Evans, Welbeck and De Gea, whose only really step up last year and this year looks very solid and promising. Obviously all the midfield players are healthy and raring for that 2 spot in team. Seeing that we lost last year only from Goal deficit. Due to these reason plus I don't think we have any more money( Dembele bid of 5m is either sign of no more money or just testing the team for the minimum amount we can get the player) Saf didn't buy any midfielder. SAF hasn't particularly address the midfield issue apart from addition of Kagawa(who is more of link between midfield and the attacking front) and 18 year old midfielder. And they are player who are turning 21 wanting 1st team games. This year is about who stays and who goes(defining season for Anderson, Nani, even Cleverly and Young).
2 Now there is 2nd which is that, this all just a smoke screen. One which is more wishful thought that there is still one more player to come. I am sure everyone hopes a solid Box to box midfielder will be signed. Interestingly there is number 9 and number 21 to be taken. I am guessing 21 would be given to Henriquez or hopefully the new Midfielder or just left for Fabio.
Now there is number 9, for a striker. Welbeck(possible), Hernandez(unlikely), VPR(no way, he choose 20 so that he can bring the 20th to Man utd), and Rooney( Unlikely but possibly take 9 and persuade Kagawa to take 10).
I know player like Dembele and Felliani has been mentioned in so many of comments. But we need player who is not just a good in average team(Ashley Young) but the best(likes of RVP and Kagawa or potentially best, likes of Powell and Henriquez to improve man utd. I know they(Felliani and Dembele) both played amazing and some might say destroyed us. But hey, from our point of view, our midfielders let them boss us. With lack of challenge and composure. We played 2 in midfield where as they play 3 or even 4 in midfield with us playing Scholes( my fav footballer and person) who is not exactly young and Carrick who not defender( not even close to). Once Jones is back he will play in midfield, at age of 19 he is a beast.
Felliani not exactly a box to box midfield. He is actually attacking midfielder(good one), most of the time behind Jelavic. Mousa Dembele does look good, but his original position is not midfielder and plays more of winger then Cm. And we need more of box to box midfielder, who is able to cover back 2 while allowing Lb and rb to attack and make a cross. Someone who has stamina of Essien(couple of years ago) and body strength which we lack with likes of Cleverly, Scholes, Carrick, Ando. Obviously there is only one KEANO, so we can't give one player responsibility of breaking and doing sliding tackle(that player would get so many injury). The whole of team needs to make effort like we did against Fulham, we loose the ball everyone TRIED to get the ball back, hopefully we will succeed more in getting the ball back in coming games. Now with Berbatov(bless him, amazing player just not for us) leaving, I hope that will clear a space for us to sign midfielder. Hopefully SAF is working hard for that.
Whatever happen at the end of transfer window. I am looking forward to this season, team like City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Newcastle, Tottenham, Arsenal, Everton, QPR( they bought 9 players! and counting), Swansea, improved their team massively and will be great opponent. Against great opponent comes greatest team, Manchester United!
I know this very long but if you are still reading, congratulation and THANK YOU so much and I appreciate your effort and would like your response.
Red Samurai
31 Aug 2012 12:41:00
Looksl ike City could steal another potential target in Javi Garcia. Surely we will bid for one of Garcia, Witsel, Tiote or even Parker today. Its blindingly obvious that we need one of those boys.
RedDevil19
Reddevil19 add m'vila to that list...
strong rumours in france saying they are in discussions with rennes regarding him..
would seriously love to know how fergie and our coaching staff see our mid-field now and come the end of the season compared to other major clubs contesting the PL & CL
Oxred
31 Aug 2012 12:37:26
what are the changes of city flying in Javi Garcia for us LOL
31 Aug 2012 12:32:28
I very much doubt the fabregas rumour but if he does come to a manc club could rvp be influential
31 Aug 2012 12:27:06
We arent signing Fabregas, , Witsel, Wayama, Baines etc etc etc etc etc. I know it's the last day for people to spout some nonsense but please. Gill didn't have a smirk on his face he was quite clear our business incoming is done. Only Henriquez to be confirmed and that is it. Powell, Buttner, RVP and Kagawa isn't a bad summers business really. Kagawa was quite obviously going to happen right at the start of the summer. The RVP signing surprised me to be honest, didn't think we would be in for him or able to get him if we were. All the people with there reliable sources and "will happen fact". I didn't notice anybody mention Powell or Buttner, funny as nobody mentioned Hernandez, Bebe etc etc last couple of years.
Another transfer window goes to prove nobody really knows how we will move in the transfer market, as yet again seen people on here that seem to be worshipped and trusted posters on here by many pretty much guaranteeing a midfield powerhouse, Oxlaide Chamberlain, Leighton Baines etc etc etc of course none of which have happened, as also neither Nani or Anderson have been moved on.
Only disappointment for me this summer is us seemingly interested but not being able to conclude deals for a New Number 7 in Hazard and Moura.
Invisible STuey
31 Aug 2012 09:34:29
Just heard David Gill interview,no hitches expected with Berba deal to Fulham and he stated cattergorically that there would be no more aquissitions .
Raffa
31 Aug 2012 08:44:08
Most guys are downgrading our midfield.
It is the same guys that will call and remind Fergie to buy Anderson,Carrick and Cleverey if they were playing for another team.
Now is Fabregas.wow! Tomorrow it will be Mikel Obi.
Hey Guys,wake up from sleep!
Comparing Fabregas to JOM? Really?
MPez
31 Aug 2012 07:06:42
The only thing to do now is actually support your team. We have a great squad with plenty to come back. I think it'll be a good season. Forget Chelsea. They've played Wigan and reading! Ha. Nozzla
31 Aug 2012 11:53:05
Not a rumour just a quick note to say love the site and transfer deadline day is always great but as another avid utd fan I would like to tell the posters to stop their minds working overtime and leave out the body language analysis. David Gill and SAF smirked whilst sayin we're not bringing anyone else in what a load of crap. The dealings are done and we will just have to make do. Am extremely disappointed about our lack of midfield investment but we keep on believing.
Ps the fabregas rumour is priceless someone has way to much time on their hands
31 Aug 2012 11:47:29
Fabregas deal wont happen, But have heard rumours that a Loan deal for Thiago Alcantara from Barca may do as Barca want him to improve physical side of his game and believe the PL is the place he can do it
31 Aug 2012 11:45:48
I wouldn't expect to see players like Kiko, Bebe and even Nani leave today. The Russian window doesn't shut til the 6th September. Turkish window shuts next week I believe? Even the Championship window doesn't shut for a while for loans and sales. So plenty of time to see players leave.
It does seem our spending is done, shame we didn't get Hazard or Moura in for Nani or even Rodriguez or Susaeta who we looked at too. Also disappointed we never followed up a bid for Witsel, in my opinion he would have completed the summer spends. The manager did say buying a midfielder would depend on Fletcher and Fletcher is looking good, I also think lack of interest in Anderson has been an issue too, club obviously pricing him out of a move. I think another possibility could have been lack of outgoings in time to make a move for a midfielder. I think a worry for the club's hierarchy would be buying a £20m midfielder then getting stuck with Berbatov and/or Nani. Who knows, but we have had a good summer and our attack is a massive strength of ours. Just hope the midfield can get their sh1t together and that the CB's press high to act as midfielders.
Sydney!
Fletcher isn't united quality...
Syd
Good post!
The midfield area should have been looked at as soon as that final whistle went at Sunderland.
I cannot believe that he has avoided that position which he has avoided for the past three seasons it's mind boggling!
All though i like Fletcher as he always puts 100 % effort and comittment into his displays for us he just isn't creative enough.
I have said in previous posts that we will have to watch an over the hill Paul Scholes play another 30 games this season with an unproven Tom Cleverley and an ageing Micheal Carrick and the waste of space player they call Anderson.
How can he even think that this midfiled can rival the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Chelsea, Manchester City and Bayern Munich.
I am really dissapointed with Fergie i mean did we really need to buy Nick Powell and Angelo Henriquez??
Why not put the money aside for Witsel, Moutinho, Eriksen the list is endless.
I think that we will be there or there abouts in the Premier League but in Europe we will be well short.
Just one world class midfielder would have done the trick.
Simmo
And the excuses for getting just about every prediction made over the summer wrong yet again begin
Invisible STuey
Fletcher is United quality?? How long have you been a United fan? When Fletcher was fit he was the player doing all the dirty work, putting his foot in where others wouldn't dare and popping up in the box to get his share of goals.
The problems we now have in midfield started when Fletchers illness became too much for the lad....Whether he'll be fit enough for a tough season is the question, for me his quality and commitment is never in doubt.
Flyhalf(Mitch)
I agree, Fletcher is a decent squad player at best. And that was before his illness.
Sydney!
Invisible Stuey, what that De Laet, Berbatov, Owen, James, Norwood, Kuszczak & Park were surplus? That we will definitely sign a LB and Brady or Blackett will not be Evra's understudy? That if RVP becomes available that we will bid for him? Kiko, Bebe & Nani will still leave IMO and do not forget that we DID bid for Witsel, Herrera & Dembele.
Why a deal hasn't been pushed through for them is anyone's guess. I gave three possible reasons, but only the club will truly know why.
Sydney!
31 Aug 2012 11:35:33
So after all of you saying we had a chance of getting Witsel in looks like he's nowhere ear to joining us. Keep dreaming boys not a top club anymore cya.
Invisible boy.
Nugget.
Sydney!
Yes Iam dissapointed. Not in not getting Witsel who isnt that great anyway, another flavour of the month. More that you call youself a fan of the club, what an personic comment
Invisible stuey
Not a top team anymore?? 3 champions league finals in the last 5 seasons, 3 times premiership champions in the last 5 seasons, how many teams can top that? Make yourself invisible boy!!
Flyhalf(Mitch)
31 Aug 2012 11:08:18
Deadline day is always dull for a Man Utd fan no deals ever done and as confirmed by Sir Alex, no deals will be done today
RedKnight
Berbatov....
MPez
31 Aug 2012 11:03:46
Unfortunalely we will not be signing any players on deadline day. Maybe a few outs that's all.
All in all I'm happy with our signings but we could of done with a dembele, tiote and wayama type signing.
31 Aug 2012 11:00:38
Sir Alex Ferguson ~ ''There will be absolutely no transfer business coming in today''
Dylan
31 Aug 2012 10:32:51
No incoming transfers today Fergie is going to attempt to battle on all fronts with the same midfield that failed to win anything last year, albeit scholes and gigs another year older and anderson fatter. How have we become that bad that we struggle to draw any class players to this club, Spurs look like they are more of a draw now.
Then go and support the spuds.
Mike
Haven't we signed Van Persie and Kagawa? I'd say they aren't too bad. We won't sign anyone else even though we are short in midfield but as I've been saying for a while the manager won't sign someone just because he can't get someone else. If he was after central midfielder who is either not available or has already moved he does not usually have a back up signing in case the one we really wanted doesn't work out. Look at Ozil we wanted him but it took us two years to get someone else like him (Kagawa) because the manager doesnt buy people for the sake of it. Obviously there are plenty of players who would improve our central midfield but if the manager has a particular one or two in mind and he can't get them then he waits. I'd have thought tht by now more United fans would know this is how Fergie does things.
Rjmanutd
I think the fact people have been raving about Dembele, Witsel, Wayama et al actualyl shows there arent a great deal of very good midfielders available this summer RJmanutd. Font get me wrong Dembele I liek as a player and Witsel is a decent player too, but would they really improve on what we have? If we are to play 4-2-3-1 we have a lot of options for two slots. I have wanted a central midfield signing for 3/4 years but have to say this summer I can see why none was made. Nobody great out there young and available and we have Jones, Carrick, Anderson, Fletcher, Cleverly, Scholes, Tunnicliffe, POwell even Giggs all can play there. I think next summer we will see a signing in midfield but with the experience we still have for anothe rseason at least and a number of players coming back fit, we have plenty of options for another season when it can then be assessed. And to the person who started this thread RVP and Kagawa are class players, Powell as Jones the season before him one of the most promising youngsters in the country, what more do you want?
Invisible STuey
31 Aug 2012 10:11:51
I do not understand why we should'nt go for M'villa..interest from other clubs seems to have waned and i think 15mill would land him...still can't believe we missed out on Dembele. He's been said to be a bit hot headed but i think SAF would man manage him quite well.
31 Aug 2012 09:54:48
Weekend surprise surprise!Witsel in and Nani out.what a party tonight?
31 Aug 2012 09:29:43
'' 'lampard will piss through us'? Haha you are the worst type of united fan. Comments like that are embarrassing for our great club.pissed through us last season did they , or did we marginally lose the league on goal difference. YOU ARE A WINGING LITTLE GLORY HUNTER!''
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To whoever wrote this (cheers for leaving a name by the way). The cheek you have to label me ''the worst type of united fan'', when all you're doing is having a go at me (a fellow fan) and my opinion. What makes this club great is it's diversity of supporters, if you can't handle another opinion then jog on! Yeah we did lose the league on goal difference, down to the fact we had gaps in our squad. These gaps still haven't been addressed. It's all well and good having a creative genius like Kagawa and a prolific goal scorer like RVP, but they don't become as effective if we can't get the ball to them! Equally, we'll continue to concede goals if we can't break up attacks. If you're gonna have a go at someone mate at least try and make some sort of a logical argument!
Andy!
No Wat makes the club great is the fans undying support for the club . Not having a go at you but we have got concernes but that is a case of scare mongering ...... Have some faith for f&k sake
CAIN
Glory hunter to glory hunter!
31 Aug 2012 10:55:36
Shame City wont sell De jong to us, he is a horrible little c**t but i reckon he would be good in front of the back 4..
Bodgerico
31 Aug 2012 10:38:26
Fergie has come out and said that he wouldn't be suprised if Berbatov ended up back at Spurs and immediatley that got me worried!
Suddenly the name of Scott Parker entered into my head....please Fergie don't do it!
Not another 30 something non creative midfielder coming in.
Just a thought which i hope doesn't materialise!
Simmo
Could be dawson as cover ???
CAIN
If parker came in it wouldnt be such a bad thing! watch him back from last season he sits infront of the defence throws himself infront of every ball. a swap for berbs wouldnt bother me one bit. a player that could come on and protect what we have
Oh some of the conspiracy theories on here are akin to X files, funny
Invisible Stuey
31 Aug 2012 09:25:32
Deadline day and I've got to admit I lose a bit more hope every time a second ticks by on that a web site clock. Our squad certainly isn't bad right now but I think we all know what we're lacking, would love the excitement of a last minute deal for a Witsel-esque player but I'm not holding my breath
31 Aug 2012 09:18:41
Gill on sly sports said no aquisitions maybe some loans out and Berba to leave
So defo no more in, makes me a sad panda again not addressed the midfield problem
Pardoe
31 Aug 2012 09:17:04
David Gill confirming that they will be no more signing this window. A couple of players may be loaned out though. End of!
DanB
31 Aug 2012 09:00:01
Where has all this Fabregas gossip appeared from, can't say I believe a word of it to be honest. Looks like Wenger agrees with me on Essien though, sweet little loan deal is a great move, would have suited us.
I expect a bid today for one of Garcia, Witsel, Tiote. If Fabregas was to arrive though I would be chuffed.
The much hated: PJ
God I hate you ...... Only joking buddy it must be nice to play a bad guy ....
CAIN
I cannot believe people get taken in by this nonsense.
Sydney!
31 Aug 2012 06:22:20
How many of you are expecting a shock deadline day move for... an unknown midfielder no one has ever seen play?
Sychlops
I wont lie, if we sign anyone I'm expecting it to be some Mexican kid I've never heard of that makes me go "Eh?!" at around 11.30pm.....he'll probably be a winger, too.
RED_SKY
31 Aug 2012 03:03:04
As a first time poster,I'd like to suggest that nani doesn't wana leave but united don't agree with wage demands. These surtain demands are obscure for a unproved player. No forter comment'
Nani will probably be sold to Zenit next week sometime.
Sydney!
I pray English isnt your first language
31 Aug 2012 02:11:25
Ed. What is all this chatter about cesc getting loaned out? This has to be a bunch of crazy dreamers starting this. I know him and rvp are very close but Barca couldn't give him up could they? {Ed001's Note - it came from Madrid's paper, Marca, it is just their usual attempt to destabilise Barca ahead of a match between the two.}
31 Aug 2012 01:32:59
we should forget about having a new signing .
Darren fletcher is said to be named in our champions league squad
fletcher , cleverly, carrick, scholes , anderson, kagawa .
thats 6 players for 2 central midfield role
We need quality not quantity
30 Aug 2012 14:13:53
Can any of the eds confirm this for me, do you need a certain amout of English players in the 25 man squad because city are getting desperate for English players now they are signing Richard wright! LOL
Caolán. {Ed001's Note - no you don't, there is no minimum amount.}
You are allowed 17 foreign (not homegrown) players that are 21 or over in the 25-man squad. You could have zero homegrown players if you wanted. However there is something in what you are saying as Chelsea too were trying to add homegrown players to their squad. I think the two clubs are keeping an eye on the 9+9 ruling that UEFA want to implement at sometime. This is where nine of the 18 match-day squad players have to be homegrown. Ed002 believes it will not happen, but nevertheless City and Chelsea have been looking at homegrown players and this is probably why.
Sydney!
30 Aug 2012 09:19:46
Hey ED !NOT UNITED RELATED!
Was just doing some metaphorical maths hoping you could shed light.
With the announcement of the partnership now in place between Spurs and Real and Real recently expressing interest in Dembele and Dembele moving to White Heart Lane immediately after Modric's dream move. We all know how much Lev Boy loves his money, are Tottenham now going to be a feeder club almost for Madrid?
Sorry if your busy, with the time of year an all that. Was just curious to why they strike up a partnership, what does it mean?
Also sorry its not united related.
Cban
31 Aug 2012 02:34:37
Anybody ever think it would be funny if we actually knew some people off the site, such as NI Devil, StevieK etc from NI...us three could by chance know eachother, but we don't know eachother on here....imteresting thought.
It would be quite funny if we were in the GBCMUSC together....
MPez {Ed007's Note - Should Ed002 be looking for a new hat? We do encourage romance on the sites when ever possible and she loves a mushy story.}
Mpez
Here's a taught member login area with profile editor for uploading your pics
Put a face to the name lol
Reddevilfan
Im from Belfast - there are 1.799m people living in Northern Ireland so unless these guys are friends etc i would doubt it ;)
Giants14
Oh no no no no no, Ed007....she most certainly does not.
We don't need another incident of Ed002 being caught out in Primark! It ended in many fights last time...all sparked up by Ed002, with the excuse it wasn't for her! Ha!
MPez
31 Aug 2012 02:18:12
Were not signing anymore players. And am happy. ManchesterUnitedFan#
Our squad is good enough.
Come on. Give nani a chance. He has shown what he can do. RVP, better than roo. Kagawa, needless to say. Cleverley, lack experiece but on the right track.
This team can win title. We have the best attacking form in the europe dare i say.
Once our injury is over, we will rule the EPL.
31 Aug 2012 15:16:13
1. This is not twitter.
2. You used the # wrong.
3. I am not happy. There is an obvious problem with Nani and CM. Pray to God that we sign a midfielder tomorrow. Cross everything you have.
G.A.G.U.S
31 Aug 2012 01:03:05
Ed002. Any news? Pwetty Pwease?
G.A.G.U.S {Ed007's Note - Ed002 is very busy GAGUS, she is not even in the country just now.}
What are you gonna do for dinner Bond?
G.A.G.U.S {Ed001's Note - he will just have to eat off a plate instead of 002's belly.....}
31 Aug 2012 00:47:13
Fabregas is a brilliant midfielder. Great Captain, and an all round top player. Would do very well in our team.
Fabregas/Moutinho/Vidal are the exact type of players I feel we need. Someone who can position just infront of the defence, tackle and pass with a good engine
ALDUtd
Wheres this fabregas stuff come from can't find any thing anywhere apart from here , would be amazing if genuine.
Sorry but fabregas will never go to man utd
watford gooner
Can Fabregas tackle?
APC
31 Aug 2012 00:34:20
Dammit! Now i gotta change my underwear. Seriously If we had Fabregas in our tea i think we would be sorted for this season, Would be an amazing buy. But I thought Barca wanted him to replace Xavi?
30 Aug 2012 23:19:16
Esteban Granero another player that would have improved our midfield join QPR...
MANRED
Jesus, is this what it's gonna be like with every midfielder that joins another club now? Granero is poor.
G.A.G.U.S
Looks like Kjaer is going to them aswell, I think he would also help out our seemingly constantly injured defense!
James.
30 Aug 2012 23:15:38
I know it's a transfer rumours forum, so can everyone post TRANSFER RUMOURS, stop going on about our bad midfield when it's better than it was last year with the addition of kagawa, the only 2 teams with a better midfield than us is city and spurs.
It's a BANTER AND RUMOUR site.
G.A.G.U.S
Think you'll find Chelsea's is none too shabby either...
StevieK
...and LFC's!
dmedly
And Southampton and fulham and everton and spurs and the list goes on
30 Aug 2012 23:06:02
I was just wondering if we did bid 27 million for moura they why did we not buy someone else after he went to PSG
It's like dembele would have been a snip at proberly 9 mill plus Berbertov
30 Aug 2012 23:02:15
Just on a different topic - nice to see Ole steering Molde into the Europa League stage proper tonight.
Beating Heerenveen home and away is good going, and it'll be nice to see the baby faced assassin add European football to his growing management CV.
StevieK
30 Aug 2012 23:45:26
One game lost because of injuries.
Evans is back, Fletcher has come through 2 reserve games.
Rio will be back soon & Smalling in October.
Let's hope for a clean bill of health to our players this season.
We want you on the pitch & not on the treatment table.
The only injury I'd wanna see is Vidic pull a muscle in his biceps from trying to lift the Capital One Cup, FA Cup, European Cup & Premier League Cup trophies on to the parade bus in May.
Young is out for a couple of weeks.
DodgyBanter
30 Aug 2012 23:36:22
Look at UNITED'S SQUAD.
Lindegaard & DDG - great goalkeeping options.
Rafael & Jones - one great going forward, the other solid in the tackle and will win most ariel battles.
Vidic & Rio - experienced.
Evans & Smalling - great young prospects learning off the best.
Evra & Buttner - once one of the best in the perm, ??
Valencia, Nani & Young - assists & goals.
Scholes, Giggs - LEGENDARY swan song season.
Cleverley & Anderson - need to prove to us & themselves.
Carrick & Fletcher - one unappreciated & one missed.
Welbeck & Chicharito - both young & improving.
Kagawa - a goal scoring midfielder, hip hip hooray!
RvP & Rooney - 20+ goals each a season.
Powell & Henriquez - one a hero in Div 2 & one a hero in Chilean League.
And with that my friends........ We will win the 20th Title.
Anderson - not good enough
Scholes and Giggs - not regulars
Fletcher - no where near ready
Nani - likely to leave soon
Evra - found wanting last year hence Buttner
Rio - best days behind him
Seriously, I am surprised that Fergie hasn't got this CM that we all agree is needed.