Manchester United Banter Archive January 31 2019

 

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31 Jan 2019 21:27:19
Ro-Shaun Williams to Shrewsbury. Interesting. He looked decent a few years back but hasn't kicked on.

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01 Feb 2019 19:40:23
So did Tyler Blackett.

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31 Jan 2019 18:54:12
I think it's time to do away with the transfer window. I see the hypothetical benefits of it. It stops the bigger teams having an open buffet on the smaller ones buy that hasn't changed really. It's just condensed it into 12 weeks in the summer and 4 in the winter. The January sales don't apply to football, in fact everything gets a lot more expensive in this window.

Giving the players the freedom to move clubs during the season is a good thing. Situations change during the season. If the club is willing to sell then I don't see the problem and if they're worried that a club would risk their future by overspending to stay up or get promotion, then they're not very well run clubs in the first place.

Scrap the window!

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01 Feb 2019 04:25:29
Herehere, it’s a waste of time and energy.

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01 Feb 2019 05:51:50
But mumbles, we would then be linked with schjederer and ronaldo and co 12 months of the year.

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01 Feb 2019 09:55:17
Mumbles; I hope Evra and Vidic don't know where you live. :P.

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mbd              

01 Feb 2019 11:25:31
We would have signed them in November mbd, they would have been climatised earlier and we would have beaten Chelsea to the league that year!

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31 Jan 2019 15:47:15
Am I the only one who finds the timing strange?

Fellaini leaves and his wages are off the wage bill, and Martial signs a no doubt increasing his wages on the same day.

Just a coincidence or is there more to this?

Are the contract extensions of players being held up due to a bloated wage bill? Is it a case of having to balance the books? I wouldn't put it past Experience Woodward to be honest. If so it's worrying with the likes of DDG, Herrera and Rashford all being key players who need their contracts extending.

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31 Jan 2019 17:14:46
If we have maxed out our wages and it's gotten to the stage where we have to sell, in order to improve our better players contracts, then that is woefully short sighted considering the amount of players that are expiring.

We didn't spend much in the summer and we haven't spent anything in the January. Wage wise we might be nearly tapped out but in terms of money for transfers, we must be flush.

But as ed002 says, the money is not worth talying about.

I am disappointed we haven't strengthened in this window though.

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31 Jan 2019 17:55:20
I think you are right to an extent but i think wages being offered to players do not depend on players leaving the club.

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31 Jan 2019 18:35:48
The only thing odd about the timing shappy is that its 5 years too late in happening.

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31 Jan 2019 20:26:36
I did post before AM signed that fellani leaving frees up money to offer others

002 stated long ago that we were in FFP radar over wages.

Spot on again #002.

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31 Jan 2019 21:25:41
We need a good clear out. Too many sitting around on good wages contributing little.

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01 Feb 2019 09:55:48
Conspiracy .

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mbd              

01 Feb 2019 03:48:22
We have one of the lowest wages to turnover ratio's among top European clubs, hard to believe we would be holding up contract extension for player sale.

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{Ed002's Note - The ratio is irrelevant.}

31 Jan 2019 14:44:12
Mistake letting Fellaini go without a replacement. Pereira not cut out, either is mctominay. Fred the only option?

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31 Jan 2019 15:45:09
Maybe Ole has plans to involve more youth players? He has mentioned James Garner before as a youngster with potential.
Or maybe he has seen something in Gribbin, Sang, Willock (St Mirren) Buffonge, Whelan, Barlow or Hamilton?
We will see.

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31 Jan 2019 15:51:53
Short term it may be a slight mistake if we have an injury crisis in midfield.

But in the long term it is hopefully the start of a much needed trimming down of the squad. Having 30 odd first team players on the books is not sustainable. With wages and transfer fees escalating for some average players let alone top players most top clubs will need to be much more efficient in squad management.

It was going to be tough to offload the likes of rojo, darmian and fellaini as most european clubs are wise enough to avoid them.

Thank god that shandong lungeng were able to do a deal for both fellaini and the club.

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31 Jan 2019 16:56:19
As people have mentioned in the long term it is in the club's best interest. Sell a player who is over 30, is on high wages, and isn't in the first team plans. That sounds like the best thing to do.

I disagree that it is short sighted or that the club will have a problem if we have an injury crisis.

For me Fellaini hasn't been a bad player, he works hard and is effective within certain boundaries. However, if Ole wants to maintain the style of play he has implemented so far then I don't see how Fellaini fits in. If we have in injury to Pogba, Matic or Herrera can Fellaini replace them and the team still play the same way? I would say no, not without a significant drop off in performance. In that situation you would have to adapt the side to fit Fellaini in, we have seen how that effects performances and results under Mourinho. It would make more sense to play a youth player with a similar skill set to the player they are replacing in the line up this allowing the other 10 players to keep playing in the same way and causing as little disruption as possible. Rather than make the 10 players change their game and the team tactics to fit Fellaini in or ask Fellaini to play in a way he just can't.

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31 Jan 2019 17:07:50
He should never have been signed in the first place!

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{Ed025's Note - im with you kurtis, just not a united type player for me mate..

31 Jan 2019 17:23:38
Fully agree Shappy.

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31 Jan 2019 19:06:48
Signing Fellaini reminded me of when Liverpool signed David Speedie, it was just wrong. Nice bloke, was a beast for Everton, it never really fitted for us. As Stevie sas, he scored some important goals for us and always gave 100% but it was never a sensible signing. Good luck to the big man.

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01 Feb 2019 09:13:09
One bad game and pereira is useless, much like lindelof a few months ago, I can see how things become toxic quickly. Give the lad a chance, he stuck up to José last year and got some game time in Spain, I think once the nerves settle he’ll be a good option to have, Ole obviously saw something in him.

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01 Feb 2019 10:44:49
Not to mention he's trying to learn a new position.

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31 Jan 2019 14:16:59
Best signing we could have made, martial tied down, he and rash are the future of united. Now for dave the save and hopefully Herrera!

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01 Feb 2019 04:33:32
If we can lock those 4 in before the end of the season then it will have been a good winter, signings wise.

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31 Jan 2019 14:16:25
Nice to see martial sign a new contract .

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31 Jan 2019 14:21:34
Perfect news as he should be kicking on from here.

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31 Jan 2019 15:40:59
Im sure he will as he is going to be a top player.

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31 Jan 2019 17:59:56
2nd best piece of news of the day.
Onwards and upwards.

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31 Jan 2019 14:16:06
Best of luck to Fellaini.

Not a player who fans wanted to sign, but always gave his best for the team. Unfairly criticised for issues that were more to do with our managers' attacking ineptitude. Glad to see him getting a last big paycheque in China.

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31 Jan 2019 14:21:11
Good luck to him as he always gave his all.

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31 Jan 2019 15:33:07
Totally agree, Danny. Never gave less than 100%, and scored some crucial goals for us. Some of the abuse directed at him when he was playing, was embarrassing.

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31 Jan 2019 18:03:07
Delighted he is gone. Should never have been signed.
He never gave less than 100% and seems like a decent bloke but he is not the style of player that should have been at united imo and no united team should ever play a style that suits fellainis best attributes.

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31 Jan 2019 18:34:31
Jose type player not a ole ot united type.

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31 Jan 2019 19:09:56
Agreed. Never was the right player for us but always tried his best, apparently a good lad and scored some vital goals for us on the way. Congrats on the move and enjoy the big $$$.

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31 Jan 2019 12:07:54
Just spotted at Old Trafford, steak and ale pie with peas and chips. Looks like it could do with some gravy tho.

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31 Jan 2019 06:46:40
It may have been points dropped on Tuesday but I 5ink 4th is there for the taking. Chelsea are all over the place, Sarri is clearly not happy with this players and Arsenal are very inconsistent. We’re 2 points behind both of them and if we can keep a solid run going then I think we will move past them.

Arsenal play City on Sunday, a win for us at Leicester will mean we likely pass them and also retire our momentum. Sarri and Emery started so well but are now looking for answers. We started badly but with s new Manager look refreshed. Also interesting to see Spurs are only 2 points behind City.

Onwards and upwards, hopefully!

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31 Jan 2019 08:02:27
Spurs are struggling with injuries and little investment but only 2 points of city, great effort that.

What a turn around at united tho, 4th place is definitely there for the taking .

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31 Jan 2019 09:47:10
Leicester took points off of City last month and Lpool this month. I really hope we can beat them convincingly at the King Power! Will be a good boost for the tough month!

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mbd              

31 Jan 2019 14:30:31
If we beaten Burnley we would have won the title.

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31 Jan 2019 18:35:04
Fzz
Your maths is awful.

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31 Jan 2019 20:21:38
So heres the question, Ole or Poch?

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31 Jan 2019 21:03:03
We have a manager until the end of the season. If he gets us into the top 4 then he deserves to keep the job imo.
Poch is a good candidate doing a good job.
There will be other candidates too i'm sure.
Love the way ole has lifted the club and it seems like a much happier environment for the players.
Poch is on the edge of the title race this season. Injuries coming at a bad time for them and could really derail their season and they could just as easily slip out of the top 4 unless they get players back soon.

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01 Feb 2019 04:56:23
Difficult decision as we know.
Poch is doing a good job as always. Spurs are at or about where you would expect for there consistent level of performance over the last few years and that’s a credit to Poch. As Ken says pity they have some key injuries right now or they could be pushing Liverpool all the way. They may still. Still has not produced a winner though.

Ole is doing a fantastic job right now. He has United buzzing again. Looking more like the 2nd place team from last year than the 6th placed team we are now. But there are some very big challenges coming up that will tell us more about how much he has learned in the last few years and IF he has the makings of a good manger for us over the next few years.

I don’t like the thought of Zidane - just not right for us I don’t think.
As for the remaining candidates they would be as much a lottery as Moyes, Van Gaal and Mourinho were, in my opinion. Could work, likely would not for many reasons.

At the moment I lean toward Ole he seems to be the right person, in the right place at the right time. He knows the club, the expectations, has the backing of many in the club and has the squad performing. There is still risk with Ole but there is risk with anyone. I would like to see him paired with an experienced DOF who understands United. I think that is impossible unless United were able to prise Van der Saar from Ajax. But I doubt that will happen. Possibly a job Gary Neville might aspire too? As I think he is more of a DOF type than a Manager.

Time will tell. Sorry that was longer than I expected. Ole. For me right now.

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01 Feb 2019 08:01:45
It’s interesting to see reports that internally John Murtagh and Tony Whelan are being considered by EW for the DOF role. I don’t know anything about these guys, time to do some research.

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01 Feb 2019 08:55:14
Do the Ed’s know very much about these two guts?

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{Ed001's Note - it is odd, they are both youth development guys. Neither have any kind of experience or knowledge of the role of DoF. Whelan has written some interesting histories of United and youth development as well as some papers on youth development, but nothing suggests either have a clue about being a DoF.}

01 Feb 2019 14:41:58
Thanks Ed001.

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{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate.}

01 Feb 2019 17:04:36
Isn’t Whelan in his 60’s? Must be nearing retirement surely?
Doesn’t sound like a long term solution to a very real need.

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Review Of The Day 31st January 2019

31 Jan 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 31st January 2019

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