Manchester United Banter Archive August 03 2018

 

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03 Aug 2018 21:48:24
Welcome Mr Alderweireld! šŸ”“šŸ”“šŸ”“.

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03 Aug 2018 22:13:33
Where is this news? Hope itā€™s true.

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03 Aug 2018 22:30:42
Now hopefully a RW. But looking unlikely. without a new RW, the team still looks unbalanced.

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03 Aug 2018 23:13:12
Have a 'feeling' Willian will come in aswell.

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04 Aug 2018 00:31:28
I haven't seen this be confirmed anywhere šŸ¤”.

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04 Aug 2018 06:56:24
This is a little premature don't you think.

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04 Aug 2018 08:54:53
Thatā€™s Scholes_18_18, always premature šŸ™„.

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04 Aug 2018 09:39:20
Thanks Lads, as i say, Welcome.

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03 Aug 2018 21:41:09
A price has been agreed for TA. I think weā€™ll get our man.

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03 Aug 2018 19:41:24
Talk that mina is a smokescreen for a bid for dembele of Barca.
Give me dembele and alderwerield and I will be very very happy.

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{Ed004's Note - It won't happen but that would be the best possible outcome we could hope for this window (as long as Pogba stays)}

03 Aug 2018 19:45:58
A smokescreen?

It's not a heist. Dembele is not a transfer target for us, and Barcelona are looking to recoup the ridiculous fee they paid for him. Nope.

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03 Aug 2018 19:51:27
If pogba was to leave to Barcelona would any of you guys take dembele with the deal? Would potentially suit both parties not saying he's of interest to the club.

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{Ed004's Note - No because there is not enough time to replace Pogba unless a deal could be done for Thiago or Kroos}

03 Aug 2018 21:10:39
Ousamane Dembele? No thanks.

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03 Aug 2018 21:04:14
Ed004, i am a fan of Pogba and think this could be a big year for him. But that said if you had the choice of the 3 players you mention based on the way we look like we will play who would you have?

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{Ed004's Note - If you could garuntee me Thiago/Kroos and Dembele would arrive if Pogba left I would probably take it however, I don't think those deals could be done in time but would love if we went for Ousmane. Think he is a top top talent who just is not suited to Barcelona's style of play. There is a reason Barca paid what they did for him and that half of Europe wanted him before he went to borussia}

04 Aug 2018 07:29:07
Righto Danny

Definition of smoke screen. 1 : a screen of smoke to hinder enemy observation of a military force, area, or activity. 2 : something designed to obscure, confuse, or mislead.

Barca did not pay a ridiculous fee for dembele, Barcelona are also interested in pogba.

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04 Aug 2018 08:56:33
Not sure why we need to obscure, confuse, or mislead, seems a bit secret squirrel to me. If we want him, go and bid, why would it be a secret?

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04 Aug 2018 09:35:13
Lol smokescreen was the word they used in the story i read, which someone has also alluded to further up the page. Don't worry i'm not going all James Bond or anything.

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04 Aug 2018 16:43:46
Barcelona did pay a ridiculous fee for Dembele, if the widespread reports at the time are true. I believe Klopp also had a word with Dortmund to tell them to drive the price up as Coutinho would. It be sold that summer.

ā€œSmoke screensā€ are lawyers and playgrounds, itā€™s the most annoying phrase of every transfer window.

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03 Aug 2018 18:29:34
Once everyone's back and assuming everyone is fit and we sign McGuire/ mina and Willian/ bale. what will be the formation you guys think Jose will deploy and with which 11. And how confident are you guys for the new season? What position will you guys enter for united in ahh competition?

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03 Aug 2018 18:36:31
Sorry I meant Ajh's competition.

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03 Aug 2018 16:53:44
Is that everyone who is fit back in training apart from pogba .

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03 Aug 2018 17:28:01
Depends on your taste.

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03 Aug 2018 17:29:04
Is Young back too?

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{Ed004's Note - Don't think Lingard or Fellaini are back either}

03 Aug 2018 18:24:18
I guess Lingard has also not returned.

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03 Aug 2018 18:32:23
I thought they were all back in training today .
Lukaku and co been in training a few days but Jose said they cut there holidays short by 3 days.

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03 Aug 2018 18:38:18
Jones rash Lukaku Lindelof cut short their holidays jred. as mentioned by Ed and others young Lingard Fellaini are not back yet.

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03 Aug 2018 18:42:07
Think young, Lukaku and Rashford it was.

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03 Aug 2018 19:21:03
They did cut their holiday short by 3 days to train today. The rest of the boys are due back in Sunday.

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03 Aug 2018 16:35:22
Good discussion on here about maguire and mina and not writing them off before we sign them if we do.

I agree they are young defenders with potential and need time to settle in but if we were looking for that type of centre back, wouldn't we just stick with bailly and lindelof who are also young and have loads of potential.

Its clear we are after an experienced centre back and maguire and mina don't fit the bill. I would much rather pay the premium for toby alderwiereld even though he will not last as long but if he is able to perform straight away and help bailly and lindelof in their development. We could have the centre back department settled for years to come.

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03 Aug 2018 17:06:15
Thatā€™s a really good po Not DSG. It the premium for Toby appears to be about Ā£50M which is ridiculous for one year. He is a available next year at Ā£25M: Iā€™d call Levyā€™s bluff and tell him weā€™ll wait a year and have him for Ā£25M.

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03 Aug 2018 17:19:02
Iā€™m not all too convinced about the release clause story. Ed002 has always maintained that release clauses are not understood by the media, and they tend to write nonsense about them.

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03 Aug 2018 17:34:58
Danny, itā€™s in the Mail so it must be true šŸ˜³.

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03 Aug 2018 18:21:37
Agreed Danny. If the best CB in the league is available for Ā£55 million and the transfer is possible, pay the money. A lot can happen between now and next season when he may or may not have a Ā£25 million release clause.

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03 Aug 2018 19:12:45
This is where the tension between club and manager comes in. Jose wants him, and thinks paying upwards of Ā£50m is worth it for his experience. The club see it as a huge fee with no resale value. Would be happier to pay Ā£35m for Mina, as they can potentially get money back on him.

Mina is nowhere near the top of Jose's wish list. If we bring him in and not Toby, we'll see some grumbling if things don't go our way.

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03 Aug 2018 14:00:51
Just a week to go now. I am excited for the season to start. can't wait. The last week is the toughest and doesn't pass.

Also hoping for some action on the transfer front before the season starts.

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03 Aug 2018 18:33:12
Few days back 002 said the club is looking to finalise deals. fingers crossed UA.

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03 Aug 2018 12:33:09
Here lads just cause Maguire headed a few balls against Panama doesn't mean that he's the second coming of Rio or anything.
By all means alderwerield needs to be our no1.
Mina is much younger than mcguire, is as good if not better in the air, don't forget he was behind umtiti and pique in barcas team, who was Maguire keeping out, huth and Morgan! (that's embellishment for comic effect but you hopefully should get my point) .

I don't think we were ever interested in mcguire, coincidence or not that Leicester is our first game?

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03 Aug 2018 13:13:33
Alderwerield is a goal keeper?

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03 Aug 2018 13:30:59
Haha do u want me to cut up your meat for you too sport.

I'll take a guess that your English and rate mcguire.

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03 Aug 2018 13:45:40
Since when did 18 months become much younger and since Maguire will not be available for the united game either way I don't see the coincidence.

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03 Aug 2018 13:10:02
Maguire.

My apprentice is younger and taller than Maguire, but that doesn't make him a better footballer.

I'd rather go all out for Alderweireld, which I think will happen in the next 6 days at much less than the media are reporting.

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03 Aug 2018 14:41:35
So what makes Maguire a better footballer than mina then? The fact that he's English?
Considering most English players do not enjoy stellar careers into their 30s predominantly based on their poor lifestyle in comparison with other countries.
I think 18 months makes quite a difference in this scenario, but let's call it 2 years anyways as mcguire is 25 and mina is 23 and since we don't usually go down to months when making a quick comparison on ages.
Oh and I said mina is as good as mcguire in the air, I didn't say he was taller, both 1.94 I believe.
I am very confident that yerray mina will have a better career than Maguire.
Jeez some of you boys need to take those blinkers off, first very good team you played in the world cup you got knocked out. Please don't make then assumption that there is many world class players in that team.

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03 Aug 2018 14:43:47
Whether Maguire plays or not (I don't know whether he will or not tbf), do you not think that the rumours may have destabilised the club of Leicester?

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{Ed0333's Note - Leicester was always gonna be a stepping stone for Arry. The richest club in the world dangles a carrot your gonna wanna bite no?

03 Aug 2018 15:38:39
Oh 100%, Maguire should jump at an offer from someone like us. I just don't think we were ever in for him as a top target.
For me he's another Gary cahill. He may go on to a big club and have a good career.
I just think it's a fallacy to see him as world class orb that he ever will be.

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03 Aug 2018 16:37:06
But Mina is? A guy that has played 6 games for Barcelona and 4 in a World Cup and you have formulated that heā€™s far superior, get a grip man. Neither of them are particularly good anyway so your anti English posts are pretty pointless.

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03 Aug 2018 16:43:51
Maguire will be done this summer .

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03 Aug 2018 16:43:56
Out of mina and Maguire I would definitely take alderwiereld.

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03 Aug 2018 17:16:46
Haha i'm not saying I would ideally want either mina or maguire.
I just think there is much more chance of mina turning out to be world class than there is for maguire, Maguire is purely rated cause he headed the ball a Couple of times against bad teams and he's English.
I would give the 50m for Toby, an actual world class cb.

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{Ed0333's Note - if you guys get Toby Iā€™ll be super surprised as he would have more stellar suitors than Everton but if you do pull it off what a coup that would be. Ashley out Toby in...fandabydozy

03 Aug 2018 17:36:49
Who is the Everton fan then?

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03 Aug 2018 17:38:21
Not sure I follow too much of what yr saying in yr posts, stones scored the headers against Panama not Maguire, Maguire scored against Sweden, the only person who seems to be judging him on nationality is you, and the only person who has said anything about the second coming of Rio is you and implying longevity will be an issue because English players have a problem with lifestyle is pretty unfair on Maguire as he has nothing to do with players before him or players that are nothing to do with him . I hope we get Toby because he's the best of the options but I don't judge any of them by nationality.

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03 Aug 2018 19:32:00
You English slate?

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03 Aug 2018 19:39:45
Also didn't say anything about anyone scoring goals, just alluding that all maguire has done is 'aerially dominate' in a games against poor opposition.
He had a decent world cup in an England team that got found out as soon as they faced decent opposition.
You might remember that a lot bif England fans were querying Maguires selection in the England sqaus prior to the world cup and obviously even more so place in the first 11, now most seem to deem him good enough for our club. No just no and like it or not it's only English bias that this is based on.
Sorry its taking so long for the penny to drop.

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03 Aug 2018 19:53:39
I'm Northern Irish, and I still think your generalisations are nonsense. Typical foreigners šŸ˜‰.

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03 Aug 2018 19:59:29
Ross
How much of mina have you actually seen?

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03 Aug 2018 22:53:46
Yes Ross I am English, I get the idea you think England over rate themselves, I don't think many English people believe we are a fantastic football team full of great players, we just think we did well in the world cup and had a kind draw . England have a decent football team but aren't anywhere near world-beaters yet if that's what yr trying to stress most people know that . I'm not sure what yr judging mina on but if it's just the world cup then unfortunately for your hopes Maguire was better than him, if your basing it on something else and you have seen lots of mina then fair enough . Anyway hope we get Toby and I don't give a nic where he's from the same as most utd fans .

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04 Aug 2018 07:52:55
Thanks slate and jred, finally someone asking why I am convinced on Mina, I love football but especially South American football, I just find it a totally different game than the muck we see here at times.
I always watch the sudamericana and liberatoras (context) .
I've been very aware of mina since he was part of the santa fe team that won the copa sudamericana in 2015. He was awesome that year, he went to Palmerias which he again took in his stride and was part of a team that won the league, I think for the first time in ages, like 15 years or something. We all know what was the next step in his career.
So yes I'm not just being anti-English here, I actually have some basis for believing that Mina will go on to be one of the top cbs in world football.
Just my opinion but also I'm sorry if I rubbed people up the wrong way with my posts, I was also having a rubbishty day and that may have come across looking back ;-)

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03 Aug 2018 12:19:01
Im kinda surprised by the name we are not linked with this summer rather than the ones that we are.

Vidal, signed for Barcelona last night after being constantly linked with inter. 31 has had some injuries but for 30m I would have taken a punt, every time I seem him play he stands out, sanchez there already too, easier bto settle
Digne, I'm really surprised that there wasn't any talk of us being interested, for me he would have been a very interesting option.
Leon bailly, rw, pace, youth, affordable, tested in a decent league, will be a superstar.

To me it just seems we're paying for our mistakes over the last few years, high wages, sub standard additions to squad and appears We almost need to sell to buy/ make space.

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03 Aug 2018 12:38:50
Every club has to sell to buy, unless you have chelseas efficent loan system conveyor belt which allows you to have 50/ 60 players on the books at the same time.

Mourinho has said he likes a small squad of 20/ 21 players. he's had two years to determine who he wants or not. For example darmian it seems like every team in italy wants him yet he's still around.

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03 Aug 2018 12:51:59
Yeah of course every team needsb to sell to buy, not every team has the likes of darmian/ young/ shaw/ martial/ rojo/ jones/ smalling on 100 to 150k a week though.
I'm sure there's plenty of clubs interested in these players however are the players interested in the obvious step down in wages they will have to take.

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03 Aug 2018 08:13:17
I'm surprised about the negativity around the potential signing of Yerry Mina.

I'll start by saying he isn't the centre back I would sign. However, he is an ideal player for the system Jose likes to play. He is dominant in the air in both boxes. Strong in the tackle, a defensive wall. He isn't phenomenal at playing the ball out from the back, but he isn't awful either.

A lot of the stick seems to come from the idea that he hasn't succeed or played much at Barcelona. In that respect you have to understand the regulations in la Liga. Spanish top flight teams can only have 3 "non EU" players registered in their squad. Last season this was Coutinho, Mina and Paulinho. Messi has taken duel citizenship due to the period of time he has lived in Spain (needs to be at least 5 years) . Suarez has duel Italian citizenship though his Italian wife. The signing of Arthur put Barcelona over their limit, until Paulinho was sold.

So as it stands, Coutinho, Arthur and Mina are Barcelona's three non-EU players. However, they would like to sign Vidal, so another must leave.

There are regulations about how many non-Spanish players you can have on the field at anyone time as well. This further limits the amount of game time a non-Spanish non-EU player can get when attempting to break into a Spanish club sides first team.

Also just because a player doesn't suit one team or one league that doesn't mean they won't suit a different team or different league.
Several pundits have claimed Mina looks suited to the EPL, and in any ways I agree with them. He has quick feet, reacts wells, and is a colossus at both ends of the pitch. He has 6 goals in 15 international games as a CB.

That ability in both boxes will suit Mourinho's style.

With both Smalling and Rojo looking likely to leave bringing a new CB is obviously an area of need.

Alderweireld is clearly everyone's first choice. However, I can understand the clubs reluctance to spend 75m on a 29 year old who'll be available for 25m next summer. Is he that good that he's worth 50m for one season?

So I can see why the club would explore other options.

Is Mina the best option, I'm not sure. But if he is to join maybe it's best to wait and see how he performs for us before we go writing him off. Remember how many people scoffed at Barcelona signing Paulinho last summer. Yet he has one of their best players last season. Let's give any new lads a chance before we write them off.

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03 Aug 2018 08:29:28
I'm with you on this Shappy!

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03 Aug 2018 08:34:22
He can't defend, that isn't writing him off it is just a fact.

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03 Aug 2018 08:39:32
Waiting to see how they perform before writing them off seems like a novel idea Shappy šŸ˜‰.

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03 Aug 2018 08:57:52
Totally agree all round Snappy.

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03 Aug 2018 09:22:43
I agree with most of that shappy. The difficulty i have with it is that would make 3 signings grant excluded that have no epl or top level experience and that's high risk if they take time to adjust which they will.
None are top level proven on a consistent basis. We have 2 23yo cb's already with great potential. They need an old head beside them imo.

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03 Aug 2018 09:29:23
Didnā€™t realise that La Liga had limits on the number of non Spanish players in the side.

Wish we had clear criteria in England in this issue to protect our players a bit more.

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{Ed002's Note - It is not non Spanish players.}

03 Aug 2018 09:46:38
I didn't think he was great at defending Shappy. He's tall a d strong and that immediately puts him in Mourinho's good books.
I thought he gave away a lot of fouls during the WC and together with the rest of the Colombian team, was playing rugby style football more akin to the 3rd division.

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03 Aug 2018 09:49:51
Mina is a gamble imo but that's football and most signings are .
Look at pogba huge talent huge price tag after 2 seasons the manager wants shot?
A lot of people thought pogba would be the missing part of the jigsaw, seems the jigsaw is getting bigger .

Biggest question for me is can we get the best out of the players we have? If we can we are in for an entertaing season.

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03 Aug 2018 09:55:50
Being negative about a potential signing isn't the same as writing off a new signing. He hasn't signed for us yet and I hope he doesn't. But if he does, I'll keep an open mind, support the player and hope he proves my initial thoughts wrong.

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03 Aug 2018 10:01:13
I don't know a lot about him either but I wouldn't be surprised if UTD don't go back in for TOBY in January anyway.

One frightening development in last 24 hours concerning incoming players the 2 words no football fan wants to hear . Jerome Boateng! However good or mad Mina is the one thing in his favour is he can't be as bad as Boateng . can he?

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03 Aug 2018 10:17:44
Well I gave them the two primary targets, that they couldn't sign. Insisted on another one so I gave them Mina. No worries I don't plan to play him I will use Matic as CB. So it doesn matter if he is good or not.

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03 Aug 2018 10:22:26
I understand your point Shappy but this deal makes absolutely no sense to me.

World Cup aside he hasn't played much football recently, I think he only started about 6 games for Barcelona by all accounts. He's relatively inexperienced so the thought that he'll hit the ground running and become the bedrock of our defence is fanciful at best. Coming to a new country, joining a new club without any pre season preparation, playing in a different league he's bound to need time to settle and acclimatise. It's taken Lindelof over 12 months and he's still no nearer cementing his place in the first team.

Forgive my figures but I think Barcelona paid around Ā£10m for him last year. They are now asking over Ā£30m for a player they've hardly played and are desperate to off load.

We already have decent options at CB. What we really need is a first choice player that will improve our team immediately, hit the ground running and become the linchpin and leader of our defence. (That is if we're serious about challenging for the league in the immediate future) .

Mina in time may prove to be a very shrewd signing but he's a big risk and not for the here and now. We'd be much better offloading Darmian, Rojo even Smalling or Jones and using the money to offset Alderweireld.

We're just as likely to end up with a Ā£30m flop, probably on massive wages that we can't move on rather than finding the rock of our defence. It's a risk not worth taking in my opinion and I'd much rather see Jose pair Bailly with Lindelof if we can't get our first choice. It smacks of desperation to me. In any case if Jose wants to play 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 I think a RW is much more important for the balance of the side.

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03 Aug 2018 11:15:27
I get what a lot of people are saying, he wouldn't be a player I would look to bring in either.

I just think it's ridiculous on here at this time of year. One minute everyone is crying over no signings being made, sreaming that we should have made signings already and we should have back up choices if our first choices don't work out, and we can't expect Mourinho to succeed without new players.

Then those same people kick up a fuss when we likely to sigh a player as it's not the one they wanted.

Wake up people you support a football club, and you have no say over who that club signs. You can write to Santa and give him your wish list, but it's Ex Woodward, Jose Mourinho and the United board who decided on who we sign.

It's fine having an opinion on a player, I agree with many of the well put points about Mina. Yes it will likely take time for him to settle, yes it is experience we are missing more than anything, and from what I have seen he doesn't look like the ball playing defender many of us want or feel we need.

However, I disagree when people say he can't defend. Based on what? You might have only seen him in 2-3 games maximum. No one can make that sort of sweeping statement and be accurate on such a small sample.

He has qualities that suit Jose Mourinho and his style of play. We don't concede many goals from open play. There are several reasons for this such as sitting deep and in numbers providing little space for the opposition. Where we did concede was at set plays, which is one of the reasons Smalling was picked so often.

Mina is a beast in the air, and would go some way to solving one of the key defensive weaknesses we had last season. It might not be what you want to see, but I have repeatedly told you Jose won't change his style and will look to improve the implementation of his style rather than change it.

If you don't like this kind of signing then you don't like Jose football, which is fine. I don't like his style of play and would hope to see a more expansive style with centre backs who are more comfortable on the ball. We won't see that under Jose though. So you'll just have to be happy with the signings that work for Jose football.

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03 Aug 2018 11:15:50
Agreed Dlib. Also Alderweild or McGuire for me. I think Barcelona are pulling a fast one, i was not impressed with him at all.
As the posters say, we need a player that knows the league and is used to the surroundings and lifestyle. Both Alderweild and McGuire fit the bill perfectly. We just need to get rid of Rojo and one between Smalling and jones.

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03 Aug 2018 11:28:28
People are saying he canā€™t defend but on what basis? I know I certainly havenā€™t seen him play much football, but Barcelona are a damn good team. Maybe thatā€™s why heā€™s not playing or heā€™s a defender who doesnā€™t suit their style. Vidic wouldnā€™t have suited playing for them.
How do we know he wasnā€™t looked at before Barcelona signed him.

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03 Aug 2018 11:33:42
He is highly rated and i would certainly sign him above Maguire but if we have a chance of Toby then he should be the one we should go after.

I also think Lindelof and Bailly will be our firsr choice cb this year.

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{Ed004's Note - I was against it at the start but after watching the formation in pre-season I think Willian and Alderwerield could transform us. Would be massive upgrades}

03 Aug 2018 11:54:20
Fully agree AAA.

Shappy - Your right mate I think Mina is more of a Jose type defender and I don't buy into the idea that just because a player doesn't make it at one Club they can't be a success elsewhere. you've emphasised the positives, I've just highlighted the negative's which in my opinion outweigh the positives. you've already said that you wouldn't sign him yourself, just giving your opinion on why he might be a target which I fully agree with. Great debate anyway!

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03 Aug 2018 11:53:04
Not seen that much of him but played with a lot of heart at the World Cup. Looked a warrior against England. Let's hope he can settle in and adjust to the culture, if he's signed of course.

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03 Aug 2018 13:18:26
As shaps say fans have no choice who we buy so just sit back and enjoy .

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03 Aug 2018 13:58:49
I agree with u ed, Toby is needed and definitely need a right winger if we are going to be keeping Valencia as our first choice right back and Dalot is very young .

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03 Aug 2018 14:17:33
What if we got both him and Toby? Unlikely but who knows.

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03 Aug 2018 08:00:50
Morning everyone

Long time fan of the site, haven't posted enough so thought it's about time. when asked to pick an all time greatest united 11 it's normally relatively easy. Pick class of 92 mixed with a few others. However the hardest part was picking a goalkeeper.

So my question is: who is uniteds greatest goalkeeper?

The Great Dane Peter schmiechel was arguably the best in the world during his years at United, pulled of several fantastic saves and was a commanding presence in the area.

Edwin van der sar was unbelievable for us especially after the rather average keepers we had before him, it's disappointing we didn't sign him 4-5 years earlier such was his contribution to us.

David de gea is now undeniably the best keeper in the world and has saved us so many points in recent seasons, his progression from shaky in commanding decent shot stopper to best in the world and first name on the team sheet is remarkable.

So opinions which 1 would you pick? Personally I'd go with de gea purely on the number of times he's saved us but it's such a tough decision.

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03 Aug 2018 08:28:35
It's Schmeichel for me and I barely had to think about it.

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03 Aug 2018 08:34:30
I always go on Schmeichel, he absolutely dominated that box, made all kinds of saves, started attacks off and was a leader on the pitch, gave out a rollicking when needed plus I think because he was there, an unknown at first during our first period of success.

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03 Aug 2018 08:58:53
Big pete. Followed jointly by vds and ddg.

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03 Aug 2018 08:59:08
Big Pete for me too. Real leader on the pitch scared the rubbish out of attackers and even scored.

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03 Aug 2018 12:40:25
It's close but I would go for Edwin Van Der Sar.

DDG is a great goalkeeper and probably the best in the world at the moment. However, questions still remain about how he dominates/ controls the penalty area. If this was based on shot stopping he would be top.

The romantic in me wants to go with big Pete, he was incredible. Totally dominated the area, phenomenal in one on ones. However, he was a great shot at for his size. His size was a massive advantage when it came to scaring the crap out of the opposition, and helped massively in the way he dominated his box and in those one on ones. Yet it made it hard for him to enjoy that longevity at the height of his powers. It also ment he wasn't as good a shot stopper as the other two.

Edwin in my opinion is massively underrated by our fans.

At his peak he was every bit as good a shop stopper as DDG. He expertly controlled his area, he helped Ajax win the UCL, he helped us to 3 finals in 4 years.

Personally I always prefer a flexible intelligent goalkeeper over a hulking beast. Buffon over Khan every day of the week. In today's game of lighter balls, that move quicker and are less predictable those reactions and ability to change direction quickly are far more important than the ability to bowl over half the opposition when claiming a cross. Which of course no one is really allowed to challenge you for.

In today's game if you dropped VDS and Pete at the height of their powers into a match VDS's skillset and ability would make him the better more useful goalkeeper.

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03 Aug 2018 13:24:31
Shappy, good point about Schmeichā€™s intimidation factor and for me thatā€™s what makes him the best. He was enormous and I think he scared the crap out of most forwards, even 1 on 1s, theyā€™d look up and see this man mountain bearing down on them. He was also incredibly vocal and a huge personality. I take the point about the modern game but Iā€™d still take Schmeichel over the others today.

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03 Aug 2018 16:48:07
Schmeichel is the best GK I have ever seen .
His shot stopping first class
Distribution first class
Commanded his box
Excellent on crosses
Excellent on 1 on 1s
Organised his defence .
Intimidated the opposition .

Had everything.

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03 Aug 2018 17:08:32
Jred, good po Not, I forgot to me tiThe j that his throwing was better and more accurate than most othersā€™ kicking.

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03 Aug 2018 22:21:47
Guys this a silly conversation in my opinion.

Big Pete had everything both VDS and De Gea have/ had and more. He made unbelievable saves, excellent 1 on 1, would pick balls out of the air one handed with half a dozen players around him and then throw the ball half way down the pitch more accurately than half our players could now do with their feet. All that as well as towering over opposition players physically and vocally.

VDS had a great if not our greatest defence in front of him, and De Gea has had years of development to get where he is now without true competition.

It is a reflection of the size of our club that these conversations can take place, that we can compare 3 players who played for us at different times where each could be regarded as best in the world at the time.

But Schmeichel was the best and from day one we knew he was.

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03 Aug 2018 07:10:30
Listen Up lads!

I have been hearing lot of things about this forum recently and I decided to pay visit.

First, congratulation to all the Eds you are doing a wonderful job here. Though I don't know your identities, I am aware we might have personally met few times. Next time reveal yourselves I will buy you lunch. But the place depends on whether you are on 001's side or 002's side.

Next, to all the posters, I am amazed! May be I should assign dedicated scouts to just read the page to identify targets, and dedicated assistants to look for tactical ideas. I mean! really?

You think I don't know what I am doing? You guys have no idea what is it to manage a great club like Paris st Germain. Uh! I meant Man United. Forget it. I am where I am because I always win. If you guys see my cv you will know I have always won and when I haven't it was never my mistake. Please do not call me arrogant because what I say is true. I'm not one out of the bottle, I think I'm a SPECIAL ONE.

How can some of you can be optimistic when the only decent player we have signed is Fred? I am stuck with an always unfit young left back, one directional right back, wingers who know crap about defensive duties, a freakin fashion expert in the middle of the park, a powerhouse striker but uses extensive power for first touch. How I am supposed to compete with the baldy and the crazy german bigtooth fairy? look at the players they have. The only was is to defend to death and try to score a goal.

And when I take my list of shortlisted targets who are at the perfect age of sweet 30, he gives them to an expert team under him. They analyze if the the brazilian noodles company would sponsor the wigged winger or the German tractor company would sponsor the midfield Krooiser. I almost won the championship last season but couldn only because we didn't get Perisic. Look how he dragged the average Croatia to almost win the world cup. It was
just a 39 Goal difference between us and city last year. Perisic could have easily created 20 assists and scored 20 himself. The expert team rejected him because they thought he wouldn't pose topless shining with the Croatian Olive Oil, like how that company wanted.

It is just easy to sit behind a computer and type opinions. You need to be there to know what's happening.

Hmmm. So now that I am here watch what you post. I am watching.

And to all the moaners, stop it, its getting embarrassing, you have no idea how to moan. Leave that to me.

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03 Aug 2018 14:32:42
Might I ask 3 important Questions.

1. Are you going to stay.

2. Zaha re-sign

3. Ed Woodward friend or foe.

šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†.

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03 Aug 2018 16:35:34
1. I will decide at the end of the season whether to stay or not. If everything goes fine I will win the championship, I will stay and pick a fight with few players before I leave next year. if things go southwards I will make sure to make things worse and force beloved Woody to sack me.
2. Depends if Woody manages to sell Martial then I won't have an youngster to ruin.
3. I call Woody before I meet the press, sets the mood.

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03 Aug 2018 17:09:03
BFRO, look at what you have done now, this could quickly get tiresome.

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Review Of The Day 3rd August 2018

03 Aug 2018 06:16:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 3rd August 2018

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03 Aug 2018 08:19:21
God bless you ed01,for your commitment.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers rover.}

03 Aug 2018 01:07:57
I don't post that much at the moment.

I visit the site about 20 times a day though and read all comments.

I don't feel i can add anything that's not already been said. And it might sound like a cop-out but my opinion sits between the 'doom n gloomers' and the jose 'fanboys'.

Im nervous about this coming season, more nervous than ever b4 (apart from before moyes first season) .

Its not a good nerves, i'm actually a little worried but im. not even sure why.

Am i alone with this feeling?

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03 Aug 2018 04:57:29
Mood will chance if we win first 3 games.

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03 Aug 2018 05:52:01
EZRS, I think thereā€™s a fine line between nervousness and excitement, I canā€™t always tell them apart. Given how frenetic things are Iā€™m not sure how Iā€™m feeling. I think Fred could be a terrific addition and I am looking at Saonchez as a new signing given his challenging start after joining us. The Pogba and Martial situations are not ideal, particularly as they might both go after our window closes and so we wonā€™t be able to replace them (only an issue for Pogba really) .

Iā€™m looking forward to it, I think it may be something of a roller coaster.

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03 Aug 2018 07:20:15
EZRS, that is exactly how i feel, when people ask how I think the season will pan out I tell them that I really don't know. I would love to be optimistic and say we will be 1st, but I fear we won't finish top four.
Guess we will have to hold tight and see.

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03 Aug 2018 07:23:52
I perform on stage in theatre. I can confirm there is zero difference between nerves and excitement. It's an old trick if you're feeling nervous before going on to remember this and your brain reinterprets the nerves as excitement.

As for this season . I think we'll win the league.

I'm nervous about how I'm going to look in six months when we're struggling for top four! No, wait. I'm excited about how I'll look in six months. There. Fixed.

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03 Aug 2018 07:34:43
We all love watching football and supporting Utd so there is natural excitement. I know for a fact most of that excitement is due to football being back, not tuning in to watch Utd play for me.

We all live in hope that things turn in the way we play, some people think Jose will get it right, a few more think he won't and we are in for another 'hard watch' season and I fear this year the backers of Jose will no longer have '2nd' to pull him out of the fire. It will be a real scrap to just get top 4, in fact I think several teams are strengthening better - if we start the season with Young and Valencia as our full backs and Mata on the right - I'll predict we won't even get top 6. More concerning than this, it seems Jose has no plan to change the style, which means a lot of boring games again. Hope I'm wrong, but you are right to be nervous, maybe the more appropriate word is 'concerned', I'm also frustrated and confused about what the club/ manager are hoping to achieve with the farce of pre-season.

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03 Aug 2018 08:10:34
Beast, how was it a farce? Fringe players got a chance, some had a chance to shine (shaw)
Young lads needed game time and to prove what they can do at a higher level/ stage.
All in all it was good experience for all,
When the new players come next week, and all those leaving, itā€™ll all make sense.

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03 Aug 2018 08:31:57
Trouble is youngsters do get chances and shine, but then the reward is to be sidelined. Where is the incentive in that?

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03 Aug 2018 08:44:41
Oh Beast you positive optimistic man, how do you sleep st night when youā€™re always so excited for the following day ahead?

What you just said is if we play the same full backs and right winger that got us comfortably into 2nd last year we wonā€™t make the top 6, never heard so much pish in all my life.

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03 Aug 2018 09:08:13
Beast. I think jose will get it right if he gets the players and turn aroumd in personnel he wants otherwise i don't think we will challege for the epl.
With our current squad i see top 4 as a good league result.
Jose will always have a fighting chance in cup comps with this squad too. Because he knows how to set up teams for those 1off games.
If we get a cb lb rb and rw like he has asked for then i think we can challenge for the title it looks unlikely at this point.

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