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03 Jul 2015 23:20:18
Basically what we have found out today is that FFP is pretty much a load of nonsense
04 Jul 2015 00:58:10
Did you actually think rich elite clubs would punish clubs just like themselves. the rich get richer and the poor pay for it.
03 Jul 2015 23:05:55
Hi folks i'd be delighted if we landed at least two out of the players we are currently linked with. i'm worried slightly with our options up front, RVP past it, Hernandez not good enough, Wilson unproved, Depay a winger, ADM same. I was hoping we would go after an out and out finisher, but we aren't even linked to one. We can't keep relying on Rooney. I know its still July but I thought LVG wanted his business done early. someone please put me at ease with some good transfer news.
04 Jul 2015 02:24:00
There's a big storm going on right now. This is good as its transferring lots of water onto my runner beans.
04 Jul 2015 04:11:16
Lmfao! For me it's the parsnips that are in trouble
04 Jul 2015 09:49:11
For some reason never tried parsnips, yet I love them roasted with the Sunday dinner.
03 Jul 2015 22:23:25
A disappointment of a week after such a great start considering the ramos leaks but here's hoping next week is a lot more proactive conspiring copa America finishes! Let's hope Argentina win and di maria scores a hat trick. Then we announce otimendi and higuain are joining us and slyspurts yellow bar reads united agree deals for Coleman, ramos, shniederlin and swienstieger!!!! Oh and then vidal pops up and says I'd love to join manchester united!!!! Wait, am I dreaming here???
03 Jul 2015 23:00:12
Oh no, not at all.
04 Jul 2015 07:07:17
Judging by the time of day it appears you are. No seriously everyone bar Higuain on your list will do me dandy.
04 Jul 2015 09:53:22
Would you not take higuain as back up to rooney longsight? U must be mad? He is a proven goalscorer
03 Jul 2015 21:03:39
One thing I've seen different in this transfer window from all the other times is that fans now don't think we can be beaten by City or Chelsea to a player because of the money involved. This is mainly down to our signing of Di Maria and putting him on such high wages. Now atleast there is one less thing for the fans to cry about. I still remember fans on this forum completely taking us out of the race if these teams were also involved ( couple of seasons back). Now its just that either we are not interested or the player wants to go to London or he wants to play in better weather conditions.
03 Jul 2015 22:34:01
FFP restrictions lifted today for both Citeh and PSG . They are both back in the transfer game now.
03 Jul 2015 16:37:50
Does anybody feel the reported 4.25 million pounds is way too less for Nani?
I mean I get he is not Ronaldo but surely he is worth at least 10 million pounds given that he had a decent season.
Us getting ripped off again?
03 Jul 2015 16:51:10
In theory but 3 years of £70k+ a week is a lot of money for somebody that will never play - £11m saved on wages (I don't know exactly what the deal is of course or what he was paid). It's what will make sense to the accountants.
03 Jul 2015 16:53:03
If you just look at the age and quality of the player then yes he's probably worth £10m, but if you take into account the fact that we are desperate to get him off our wage bill and there isn't much interest from elsewhere due to his wage demands then there isn't much we can do
03 Jul 2015 16:45:49
His wages were too high, nobody was going to take him off our hands unless it was a small fee, simple as that, price to pay for the ineptness of the Moyes reign.
03 Jul 2015 17:02:41
It's important to note a) there just aren't many suitors given the salary we're contracted to give him, b) we get his wages off our books, and c) he's been with us for a long time so the transfer cost we paid initially is probably fully amortised and this is likely to represent pure profit.
In respect to a player we don't want, along with his wages the sale puts 10m on the bottom line for the forthcoming season. He may have done okay in Portugal, but he has more recently shown himself to have no stomach for the EPL, so his value to us is nothing. Good business if you ask me.
03 Jul 2015 17:26:41
Wages too high for the calibre of team that will want to sign him.
03 Jul 2015 22:28:58
Getting rid of Nani at any price is great business.
One of the worst players to wear the shirt in recent years. A good season in a poor league elsewhere don't make him ' The New Ronaldo' or the self proclaimed 'best player in the world'. He's made a few million out of us so there can be no hard feelings.
03 Jul 2015 23:15:55
I believe he's took almost 50 million in wages out of the club. Its a shame he never lived up to his early potential but those last few seasons he was more effort than reward.
03 Jul 2015 15:42:46
Interested to see how many of you guys would consider signing Vlaar as defensive cover now he is available on a free, especially with the injury crisis still fresh in the mind from last season.
03 Jul 2015 15:53:01
I'd rather promote McNair than take Vlaar, another injury prone player is not what we need.
New signing, Smalling, Jones, Rojo then McNair I think it'll be.
03 Jul 2015 16:09:17
100%, we need an experienced head back there who understands the P word and can fill in when key players are missing. Too many sick notes at the back and too many games to be relying on Blackett, McNair or others filling in. They aren't ready.
We need CB signings desperately - every year we end up dropping in Carrick or players that aren't ready - it will also add competition for places, too many times a CB plays just because he is the only fit one available.
{Ed004's Note - As long as we sign Ramos or Otamendi I do not think we need Vlaar who is quite injury prone}
03 Jul 2015 16:11:26
vlaar had his own injury crisis last season
03 Jul 2015 16:53:30
Granted he is not Mr fitness, but he is an experienced guy who is a leader and knows LVG's way. We are chronically short of leaders/intelligence at the back, Ramos suspended hah, Jones/Smalling injured - it leaves us short for a congested season. He is better than McNair and Blackett currently and on a free its a no brainer for me.
But I appreciate why people don't like the idea.
03 Jul 2015 16:46:23
Ed 004 is there a small chance we could sign ramos AND otimendi???
{Ed004's Note - Highly unlikely}
03 Jul 2015 16:46:25
Isn't there a reason he is on a free?
03 Jul 2015 17:10:37
If we can't get anyone else, he'd be worth taking a pop on, but I have a feeling, with a year under LVG under their belt, we are going to see a much more organized back line, and better performances and fewer injuries amongst Jones, Smalling, Rojo, Shaw and Rafael, plus further strides taken by McNair. I also expect Smalling to continue the process of maturation into a leadership role.
IMO our need is not as desperate as many make out and, if at all possible, we should look for someone better.
03 Jul 2015 17:31:46
Another laurent blanc situation we have the funds and there are better players around. He will be as big a waste of wages as nani has been the last couple of years. there's a reason we take the mick about kolo. So why get our own
03 Jul 2015 22:20:32
I highly doubt his wages would be anywhere near Nanis. We are talking about a player who was probably the best defender in the World Cup and coped brilliantly against some of tge best players in the world who is available for free!! Fair enough he had injurys last season but so did Jones and not to mention our 30m new boy Shaw. Seems to me people only want the star names to get their blood pumping, yet logical moves don't excite the masses.
03 Jul 2015 22:46:59
We'd be better off with Gordon McQueen (wearing one of his fetching golfing jumpers) in the back four rather than Vlaar . assuming MUTV would release him.
04 Jul 2015 02:25:16
I'd rather play Hayley McQueen there.
03 Jul 2015 14:45:57
I keep reading that di Maria moved to us purely for money, in the glamour age of football where the vast majority of top flight footballers across the globe are very wealthy why would he move to us on a huge contract without wanting to be here?
He's the one who had to sign on the dotted line, he even got advice from Ronaldo about the move, if it was purely money surely he wouldn't have cared?
I'm not advocating his performances last season (some were pretty shocking tbh) and his heart might not be in it now but to suggest the move was originally all about money seems ludicrous, he has a young family so the move would have been clearly thought out before hand not just to gain a few extra K's per week.
03 Jul 2015 15:01:23
Simple:
Di Maria wanted a new contract.
Real wouldn't offer him the massive wages he wanted, and said that he was free to leave for the right price.
His agent touted him to various clubs, who all balked at the wages he wanted and the fee Madrid wanted.
It looked like PSG may have been able to put a package together and this was Di Maria's preferred choice.
However, FFP buggered this move.
United offered the money, and because he had no other option he signed.
03 Jul 2015 18:15:11
But he is still a human being and I can't understand why he would come to us on a huge contract knowing that it would make the majority of other clubs baulk at the transfer fee, wage demands etc if he had no intention of signing for us in the first place?
03 Jul 2015 20:02:57
He backed himself into a corner. When it became obvious that Real weren't willing to give him a bigger contract and were more than happy to listen to offers, he had effectively burned his bridges there. His agent thought that, on the back of a very good season, he could leverage Madrid for a new contract or get a move to a team of his choice. When PSG couldn't put together the package, we were the only game in town.
Maybe his agent told him that he could move to PSG after a year (Di Maria openly courted them in an interview last season), I don't know. What I do know is that Di Maria wanted massive wages, Madrid wanted a massive fee, and we paid it. Since then it doesn't look like Di Maria is happy here, and I would wager that LVG has been less than impressed with his attitude too.
03 Jul 2015 22:29:34
If his agent told him to move in a year you'd think with the wages he's on he'd be pushing his performances a lot more because on current club form and his wages no one could surely see him as a good investment.
I hope he stays, I hope he was just having a hard first year with the break in and all, I hope he comes good and shows his undoubted quality. A lot of hope there lol
03 Jul 2015 14:23:45
Watch falcao have a good season at Chelsea when a manager shows abit of faith and confidence in him!
03 Jul 2015 14:40:18
Totally agree, i still think Falcao will come good and prove it to the premier league that he could be successful.
03 Jul 2015 14:45:14
His touch was disgraceful last season , he worked very hard no doubt about that but would you have signed him for the amount quoted I know I wouldnt
03 Jul 2015 14:45:24
I'm sure he'll score more for them but purely because he'll get more service in the box, his first touch still isn't the best and he's lost a yard of pace, can't see him setting the league on fire.
03 Jul 2015 14:51:42
What happens with Falcao is going to be fascinating this season. Chelsea have Diego Costa (RVP) and play with one striker, let's see how Jose handles it and that will give us a very good idea on whether it was Falcao or LVG to blame for the debacle of last season.
03 Jul 2015 15:44:33
Me and the beast share similar feelings about lvg I see
03 Jul 2015 16:16:03
haha - I've been careful to try and not talk about him much for a few months. Just wait until the boring, anti football starts again and hopefully you can sit in that lifeboat with me and a few others when the carnage begins.
In seriousness hopefully he has been working on his English during the summer, so all those excusing him with "he didn't mean what he said" don't have that excuse to fall back on.
03 Jul 2015 16:28:16
Beast, he's been in Portugal all summer so doubt his English has improved!!
03 Jul 2015 16:47:27
Haha beast we will tackle it together!!!!!😀
03 Jul 2015 23:04:06
Having Rooney as your captain and go-to player wasn't his smartest move ever.
"Ya a'rite Lui mayte, what's tha plan fo the match then lad?"
03 Jul 2015 23:23:21
Falcao himself should've been more aggressive with his next career move, he must know that he's second fiddle to costa, while I can see him scoring a few goals for Chelsea next season he should've cut his losses with the premier league and tried for a move back to Spain where he was so devastating before.
Gotta admire his determination though for trying to make it in the EPL!
03 Jul 2015 13:53:27
Ed I thought we had sold henriquez but he seems to be in the pre season squad? i'm happy with this and believe he deserves a chance to prove himself
03 Jul 2015 13:43:28
Would people prefer to keep DDG, lose Ramos but sign Otamendi or lose DDG and sign just Ramos?
Personally I'm with option A due to DDG and Otamendi age and potential against Ramos wage, age and not having de Gea of course.
03 Jul 2015 14:22:03
Keep De Gea, i.e he signs a 5 year contract and sign Otamendi.
03 Jul 2015 14:24:32
I'd rather we sold De Gea (his hearts not in it), not bothered with Ramos, too much hassle, and bought Otamendi as he seems to want the move? Buy another keeper?
03 Jul 2015 15:27:07
I would have Otamendi regardless of the keeper circumstance. He reminds me of Vidic in the way he's tough tackling, doesn't take any shit and would put a certain fear in opponent strikers. He's also 2 years younger then Ramos.
Smalling reminds me of ferdinand with his composure on the ball and is very good in the air but I reckon he needs to work on his distribution, which will improve in time.
Would be a great partnership for many years to come.
{Ed004's Note - I would rather partner Smalling with someone like Ramos. Neither Smalling or Otamendi are great on the ball}
03 Jul 2015 16:30:41
Smalling and Rio in the same sentence just is NOT right. Rio was a proper defender, quick, classy, could read the game. Smalling . Is smalling.
{Ed004's Note - Tbf I think Smalling is a very good defender however he isn't very good on the ball. He has improved massively though on the ball since last season. I expect Smalling and Shaw (injuries permitting) to be permanent features in the team next season. I'm hoping Ramos is signed mainly for his ability on the ball}
03 Jul 2015 18:07:24
Rio was a Rolls Royce. Smalling is a bit more of a chevrolet.
{Ed007's Note - Do you mean a Chevette?}
03 Jul 2015 10:37:02
A question for one of the eds please, lots of talk about psg and bayern trying to buy di maria. Is this just paper talk or do you expect bids to come in and more importantly are we actually going to consider a bid if it equals what we paid?
{Ed007's Note - I've always thought that Di Maria would rather be at PSG (or anywhere) than Utd and if they make an acceptable offer I reckon Utd would be glad to recoup a large chunk of the fee. If ADM has another season like last his value will drastically drop.}
03 Jul 2015 13:47:19
Do you not think his poor attitude was more to do with not starting week in week out and having to be told how to play rather than given the freedom to play his own game?
03 Jul 2015 13:53:26
hi ed just quick question why in your opinion do you think adm signed for us when it was clear from last seasons performances on the pitch his heart wasn't in it? cheers
03 Jul 2015 14:04:18
The largest contract in British football history probably helped.
03 Jul 2015 13:53:26
hi ed just quick question why in your opinion do you think adm signed for us when it was clear from last seasons performances on the pitch his heart wasn't in it? cheers
{Ed007's Note - Money.}
03 Jul 2015 14:44:43
I always preferred Sanchez to Di Maria, and was surprised we didn't push hard for Sanzhez.
Di Maria is a top player but just came to us at the right time as none of our wingers are top class.
If we already had established wingers in our squad and Di Maria joined us then i think we would've seen a different Di Maria.
03 Jul 2015 12:34:36
Ok guys let me start again. I'm more concerned about the quantity of players Lfc have bought not the quality . Yes I know we get the big names. but apart from a handful of superstars we have signed. not many have gone to the great heights we paid for them. Veron. kleberson. berbatov. just to name a few. I guess what I'm saying is why should we always pay a premium for players who don't actually make us any better. Be better to sign championship players who want to wear our shirt and play for us. And not use us as a bargaining tool with their own club. not
Pass me the gavascon wife
03 Jul 2015 13:19:20
Are you a Liverpool fan? Better to sign championship players, I hope that's a joke.
03 Jul 2015 13:10:02
I would be far more concerned with the quantity of the players being signed if I were a Liverpool fan. Last season Rodgers tried to combat the loss of their best player by bringing in a large volume of new recruits. The majority of these players either took time to settle in or didn't gel with the rest of the team. The result being a poor season. This year he is doing the same thing, and Liverpool will be in for a very trying opening few months as Rodgers attempts to integrate all these new players into an already disjointed squad.
We have a few areas in the team that need to be improved (rb, cb, cm and possibly a new striker depending on who leaves). The management team is aware of this, and have obviously identified players that fit with the squad and will improve us. Hopefully we will start to being in these players soon so they can integrate with the squad. I am concerned that we may be being used as contract leverage by some players, and I hope that your attention isn't being diverted away from genuine targets because of this. However, bringing in enthusiastic players who would love to play for us is not an alternative strategy. If we want to challenge again we need a few quality signings that fit with the squad and system.
03 Jul 2015 13:39:06
We are, hopefully anyway, looking at the top of the table not at 5th and below, I don't see arsenal, city or Chelsea having signed anyone yet (cech aside) and we have signed Depay. Liverpool have signed players we obvs wasn't that interested in or willing to fight for anyway, of all the players they've signed only Firmino I'd be envious of but at what £28m. We are obvs working on transfer deals as we speak so don't panic cpt mannering (or is it manwaring, I never know).
03 Jul 2015 15:09:19
But quantity over quality is precisely where they went wrong last season, its the opposite of what we should aim for.
03 Jul 2015 23:07:41
Welsh
I believe it's Mainwaring. Corporal Jones was the deliverer of the lines.
You are right though, some serious panicking going on at the moment. I was confident about getting all our targets sorted before the end of July but with PSG and Citeh now back in the game it becomes much more difficult.
03 Jul 2015 12:28:36
Potentially frightening front 3 next season for us. If di Maria Depay and Rooney step up could be very exciting. I'd keep mata in the 11 along with Herrera and a strong quick DM would love to see Ramos and Coleman sign think we'd have the strongest starting 11 in the league
{Ed004's Note - Would have a very strong team but I would play Di Maria more centrally and Mata wide right and keep him partnering up with Herrera. Di Maria can drift wide when Depay comes inside. However I'm concerned about whether Rooney is enough cover for the st position next season}
03 Jul 2015 12:39:08
The fluidity and interchanging in attack could be a joy to watch. My hope for Rooney is that he is played as a striker and gets the chances created for him so he doesn't have to come looking for the ball. If we was to sign another top class striker where would Rooney play? I'd much rather see mata in the creative attacking area than Rooney
03 Jul 2015 12:51:32
Van Gaal trusts Rooney. I bet Rooney will be our main striker next season and if Rooney plays a complete season as a striker he will come good and can get to 25+ goals easily.
03 Jul 2015 13:17:25
Rooney will be the main striker but I see ed4s point, if we have injuries, or if Rooney has a dry spell, which he does every season inbetween his scoring patches, we need someone to take up the slack. With a successful qualifier and group stage we're looking at 46 games not counting any progression in Europe or the domestic cups. Its too much to ask of Wilson so who comes in?
03 Jul 2015 13:18:44
Wasn't LVG comments he wants Rooney to stay central, liking his touches, let the creative players do the creating and Rooney to basically bang them in. Agree with Ed tho what if Rooney was to be injured for a prolonged spell, can RVP be relied upon and who will be wiling to wait in the wings?
03 Jul 2015 13:07:47
I personally think a front three of Depay-Rooney-Di Maria won't have enough goals in it. I believe we need another striker to cover or replace Rooney and we need a goal scoring right forward. Lacazette played mainly as a striker this season but was a right sided forward the previous season so would be a great buy, he could cover Rooney and be a goal scoring winger. I would like to see Lacazette
and a winger like Domenico Berardi.
03 Jul 2015 14:00:40
i still think there is a good chance adm will play in a midfield 3
03 Jul 2015 14:28:22
I think ADM will be sold to PSG!
03 Jul 2015 16:06:45
Many posts about Rooney being striker or whatever : has been a good performer and Was imo world class but surely we must look to the future striker wise? He is almost 30 and goal return is not great (he does play out of position a lot tbh) in the last couple of seasons. Can see him getting less game time through injuries taking longer to clear up: add to that,hernandez is not in favour RVP is possibly going and Wilson needs a bit more time and we haven't anyone else coming through fast- striking position is as important to man utd as is the CB in my opinion
{Ed004's Note - 100% agree with this post. The club need a striker this season especially if RVP and Hernandez leave}
04 Jul 2015 08:45:35
Cookyman
I concur and have been saying this for a while, Rooney has scored in bursts but in between it leaves us vulnerable. Time for a top striker
03 Jul 2015 12:27:08
For all those getting panicky and desperate for a signing, any signing, 6 years ago today we signed Michael Owen and handed him #7
Nothing against him personally but at the time not a popular signing with a lot of fans.
03 Jul 2015 12:35:30
If nothing else the goal against city made him great in my eyes
03 Jul 2015 13:19:16
Least we won him a championship medal ha.
03 Jul 2015 13:10:06
Those were dark days.
03 Jul 2015 13:40:31
David Bellion the next zidane.
03 Jul 2015 04:37:12
SO E$PN reporting, now that the ban has been taken off from PSG they will go in pursit of DI MAIRA.So question is should we sell him for the same amount or should we give him another year?? Problem lies here, If he performs well it will be great for us but if he doesn't we will have to sell him for less.
Also is any of the ED's are free to answer, Do we have any interest in Marquinhos???
Are we interested in Veratti???
{Ed004's Note - There is no way Marquinhos or Verratti are leaving this season}
03 Jul 2015 12:14:43
We better not sell di maria
03 Jul 2015 12:20:42
If we get what we paid for him i'd let him go. Think he will b better nxt year but still not worth 60 mil i'd take isco, bale, reus or muller if we could get them
03 Jul 2015 12:32:04
I say give him another year, been fantastic in the copa America and even though he was poor last season he got plenty of assists and a few goals, imagine if he actually played well! How much fear could he and Depay strike into our opponents if they are given free reign to run at them.
03 Jul 2015 12:42:31
I don't think we are going to let go of Di Maria this window. He's going to be the major part of how we play. Unless a ridiculous offer is tabled by PSG.
03 Jul 2015 12:58:37
I think he'll be off, his family do not want to be in the UK and it looked like his head wasn't fully in it on the pitch.
I think he was signed as a statement rather than for footballing reasons. I've said it many times that the EPL doesn't suit him. Plus I would much rather have a goal scoring right winger if we are going 4-3-3.
03 Jul 2015 13:18:48
Di Maria is the only world class player in our side (excluding DDG who will be off soon), watching him in the copa America shows if used right he is horrible to try to play against. With a better defence and midfield our front 3 of Rooney Depay and Di Maria should run riot next season. With Depay signing now means we can attack down both wings instead of just the left hand side which is all we predominantly could do last season
03 Jul 2015 14:02:26
ADM is not world class. He is winger that scores very little goals, considering his position and the club and national teams he's played in he should get bags of goals.
People keep saying he played centrally at Madrid, most of his games in his last season were on the right wing. Yes he got a lot of assists in his time at Madrid. Passing to Ronaldo, who would pull of some insane skill then bang it in and ADM got to chalk up an assist. Exactly the same situation with the national team although he gets Messi there!
There are issues with how easily he's pushed off the ball, how little defensive work he does. How bad his pass completion stats are. How little he scores for an attacking player. He's got a big reputation and that's it.
If we get anywhere near what we paid we should snap their arm off.
03 Jul 2015 14:34:27
Rooney hasn't got many GOOD years left and Lacazette should be bought in? I'd love Reus to arrive too, but, don't think it'll happen?
03 Jul 2015 16:58:32
Rewz,
It is easy to say all he did is just pass to Ronaldo who did all the work and scored when you didn't actually watch the games, a lot of his assists were actually from good passes or crosses, as they have been for Argentina, as Messi doesn't look as good in that side.
03 Jul 2015 11:02:15
Do we think Coleman was always LVGs number one RB target ? I'd like to think so as he's best RB in the league. I know we flirted with Alves but I think a lot of big names we are linked to is just agents fishing: throw in United are interested and miraculously you get a new improved deal.
03 Jul 2015 11:08:00
United will always be used in that way unfortunately, best to not get too excited about every big name we are linked with.
03 Jul 2015 11:29:49
Halesini,
He is not better than Zabaleta or Ivanovic at this current time but I agree he is the best right back we have any chance of signing.
03 Jul 2015 11:57:30
A club like United prob has 2/3 targets for one position, prob Coleman, clyne and A other for right back. Coleman being 1st choice, Liverpool came in for clyne knowing we had interest but we wasn't going to sign clyne at the expense of perhaps getting Coleman and also knowing if Coleman didn't happen there is still option C which is prob on a level with clyne anyway.
03 Jul 2015 12:00:44
He is not as good as Zabaleta and is different to Ivanovic. But he is certainly top 3 and is the best right back we could look to get.
03 Jul 2015 12:10:25
GDS I think Coleman could be just as good as Ivanovic and Zabaleta.
They have had the comfort of playing for better teams with better players around them. Coleman has stood out the past 2 seasons at Everton and has regularly performed at a very high level against all comers in the premier league. I certainly rather him to Clyne and even more so than Zabaleta or Ivanovic. He offers more than both going forward.
This is just my opinion though
03 Jul 2015 12:45:33
As a lad in Ireland Coleman was a fanatical United supporter!
Patrick
03 Jul 2015 13:21:54
Why does everyone assume we will get Coleman, I think we have dithered again as we do every transfer window and it cost us Clyne for £15 million and will probably cost us Schneidelin using him as a back up option to Bastian. I know I wouldn't be happy playing second fiddle if arsenal come in again for Schneiderlin think he may go to them.
03 Jul 2015 13:05:22
I have a feeling we won't sign any right back and again valencia will continue to be our right back next season. Lvg said he was the best player in the Arsenal FA match, he sees things differnetly. I hope I am wrong.
03 Jul 2015 13:07:43
I think Zabaletta is the best atm, Ivanovic is tripe and is on the wane anyway, Coleman would be a good buy if united can keep him fit and playing. If rafael could stay fit, I would still stick with him but it seems LVG doesn't fancy him.
03 Jul 2015 13:09:54
zabaleta wasnt great last season, be interesting to see how he does this year
03 Jul 2015 13:22:28
angelred,
I 100% agree with that, just don't want us going down the Liverpool route where every signing we make is suddenly the best player in the world!
03 Jul 2015 15:56:07
I hope not GDS.
We normally turn young prospects into world class players, where as going by Brendan's last few signings, he is doing the opposite.
Anyway, I really believe Coleman is on another level, and it's hard to find a good young right back right now who is top notch. Jury is out on Clyne for me, even Hodgson preferred to play Jones at RB. LOL
03 Jul 2015 16:59:49
Jaime,
Yawn, give it a break, you don't enjoy the season, you don't enjoy the off season, I have a feeling football just isn't for you mate, maybe try golf or something?
03 Jul 2015 10:41:24
Don't be surprised if we get Ramos and Madrid sign Hummels for a cheaper price.
03 Jul 2015 12:14:19
That would be awful
03 Jul 2015 13:37:55
For Madrid.
03 Jul 2015 16:40:58
Ramos is twice the defender that Hummels is.
03 Jul 2015 10:08:24
So Madrid are set to offer Ramos an improved contract to get him to stay, we shall see if he has been using us to get what he wanted or if he genuinely wants out.
03 Jul 2015 09:05:16
Despite my best intentions, I can't help but get a little excited at the thought of Ramos signing for us.
As you do, I I've watched a few youtube videos and checked stats (to feed my excitement). Obviously, the one to be concerned with is his disciplinary record.
Apart from the fact that he's obviously got a bit of a temper, I'm sure that English referees would probably suit him better. Some of the red cards he's received are absolute nonsensical.
I'm the first to praise the top Spanish teams for their performances when they're playing well, but watching 'Spanish rules football' is absolutely soul destroying. The diving and pettiness is so frustrating. let's hope we see more players wanting away from it, as it would undoubtedly make us an even more desirable destination.
By the way, I'm not suggesting that Ramos is leaving because he gets red carded all the time. But a red card damages your teams chances at winning, which by nature makes you the villain; it must be at least a motivation to come to a league where your general play doesn't risk damaging your teams chances.
Jack
03 Jul 2015 11:32:30
Whilst reviewing your point I would be interested to know how many red cards Ramos received last season?
03 Jul 2015 12:15:52
Red Man, I believe throughout his career Ramos has missed an entire season if you add up all of his suspensions.
03 Jul 2015 12:44:34
I don't think I see the relevance in Ramos not getting sent off last season, if that was your point. He gets sent off, on average about twice a season, it must play on his mind.
I think we have this idea that football is reborn every year, and whilst it might be for the fans, I don't personally think that would be my mentality if it was my job/I was a player. I struggle to separate my achievements/developments into tax years for example - but could probably tell you when certain things happened if pressed.
I don't really share the view that negative traits are labelled 'growing up' when they stop, but 'class is permanent' when it comes to optimism about a players poor form, suggesting they will come good again. If I'm honest, I don't think a lot of them have got the cognitive ability to change drastically, its a mixture of things. Torres and Falcao will find the net a few times, despite form, and Ramos will probably get sent off. Leopards don't really change their spots! Ramos would be less likely to get sent off here than in Spain though, I assume everyone will agree on that?!
(Unless it's for diving)
Jack
03 Jul 2015 13:51:04
Jack
People can learn and as you gain more experience in life and career it does help you cope better with difficult situations, so just because he had a bad red card history doesn't mean he will going forward.
03 Jul 2015 08:24:11
If you had the choice would you rather us sign
2 CBs and 1 CM or 1 CB and 2 CMs? Assuming we also added a RB and a ST.
Personally I think two CBs is more important, we have Carrick, Blind, Herrera, Fellaini who could all hold down a starting spot in midfield along with Rooney amd Di Maria who can play there and Mata or Januzaj who could play as a No.10. Also Pearson or McNair from the youth could play in midfield. If we added Schneiderlin to that I think that would be enough.
But at CB only Smalling and Rojo have shown themselves to be good enough, McNair has played well too but needs experience alongside him. Jones, Evans and Blackett for me haven't been good enough and always leave me a little worried when I see them starting.
So I think 2 CBs is far more important. I'd love a summer of Otamendi, Ramos, Fabinho, Schneiderlin, Depay and Lacazette. With maybe a back up keeper. We would be genuine challengers on all fronts with those signings.
03 Jul 2015 09:17:22
I'd be taking a CB and a CM. Carrick showed last season he is one of the main reasons we got top 4, however, at his age a 2 week injury for a younger player is a 3 week injury for him. We were lost without Carrick last year and a player who can play a similar role to him is in my opinion just as important as a CB.
CB speaks for itself, even though over the last few years Jones and Smalling have given us good performances, they have mixed them with some very poor ones and their injury records are terrible. Ramos or Otamendi seems to be the choice at the moment and either would be a huge improvement on what we have.
03 Jul 2015 09:41:51
1 CB and 2 CMs for me.
Smalling, Rojo, Jones, McNair, Blind, Evans and Blackett can play as CBs although admittedly some of them aren't reliable. If we add a solid CB to the current list we will be ok.
In all fairness Shappy if you say Jones, Evans and Blackett haven't been good enough in defense then certainly Blind, Fellaini and Rooney haven't been good enough in CM either.
I believe that most of the time a team needs to breakdown the midfield before they can get a run at the defense. Schneiderlin and Carrick combo is perfect but we cannot rely on them consistently as Carrick is prone to injuries now and Schneiderlin is no stranger to them either.
03 Jul 2015 10:02:06
Ideal world for me is to see Coleman, ramos, otimendi and shniederlin come in. If we can also get vidal and lavacette or higuain I'd probably faint and never wake up
03 Jul 2015 13:26:24
I think we need 2 CBs and 2 CMs realistically none of our current CBs or CMs would get anywhere near a top European clubs starting 11, if that's where we want to be that's what we need a strong spine which Giggs mentioned is essential for any sort of success.
03 Jul 2015 14:55:40
If I had the choice, I would go with one CB and two CMs. Since Jones just signed a contract, that means Smalling, Rojo, and Jones are in the rotation, and we obviously need one more.
At CM, we need someone who can play Carrick's role if he is out, and another box to box player. Schneiderlin looks capable of both roles in time.
My guess though is that we will get one of each.
03 Jul 2015 08:12:34
According to marca ramos is still determined to leave to start a 'fresh chapter in hs career '. Hoping something happens today before the weekend
03 Jul 2015 11:09:22
I think in order of preference it's:
World class CB
World class CM
Premiership class CB
Goes without saying we want world class recruits to become a major force again on all fronts but if we had to tighten the purse strings I'd prioritise these 3 above all else and in that order, accepting that the 3rd player may need to cost less.
That said we should be looking to use the Adidas money, and Champs League monies to make 'statement of intent' signings.
03 Jul 2015 01:16:37
As a distraction from the circus that is transfer silly season, I have a fun question to pose to the regular posters on here.
If you were to play for Manchester United, what number would you choose to wear and why?
I am aware there is going to be a lot people choosing 7 for obvious reasons but no matter. Personally I would choose 15 because although I didn't play much football as a kid, just for a local club and for my school, when I did play I always played centre back, and Nemanja Vidic was a massive hero of mine during that time what with me still being a youngster at 18.
03 Jul 2015 03:53:45
If I were to play at United, I'd bang Woody's door until he gave out a new shirt number to new someone.
03 Jul 2015 07:01:05
I always wore 9 as I play up front and growing up as a child I used to love Ronaldo (Brazilian) and shearer. So I think I'd want that number
03 Jul 2015 08:10:17
11 for me. I'm only 5'6 and was pretty much always played out wide when I was growing up and for a few amateur teams. Ryan Giggs was my hero growing up so that's my reasons.
03 Jul 2015 08:21:40
No 11 as I was a winger and wore the number all the way through the time I played from age 10 to 33.
03 Jul 2015 09:04:04
number 8 for me, pretty much wore it from age 7 onwards
03 Jul 2015 09:29:35
Cant believe you guys managed to keep your numbers so long as i had that many clubs mine was always changing. For me at united it would have to be 21 especially if it also meant i got to score a goal against the scousers.
03 Jul 2015 10:51:02
Mine would be 2, always played as an attacking fullback.
03 Jul 2015 11:14:01
Well I do have a fondness for number 2 as I had a man/fan crush on the leg-end that is Mike Duxbury our early 80s RB. But my Halesini shirt is a 7 and I'm creating a wall of signed 7s (Beckham, Cantona, Robson, Ronaldo)
03 Jul 2015 11:42:37
7 but not for the usual reasons , it is because I once walked down the tunnel (when it was in the middle) as a spectator, right behind Steve Coppell who had the number 7 shirt , as the team went out. The roar hit you and I will always remember it and wished I was good enough. I mostly played in 7 or 2 but for United the number isn't relevant just being on the pitch
03 Jul 2015 13:40:54
Number 23 for me, I have always had that number as I seem to be very superstitious I wouldn't change it.