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05 Jan 2019 23:34:21
5 from 5 - great start for Ole. Felt a little more Jose Mourinho Utd today if I'm honest but 9 changes will damage our rhythm. Think quite a few on the pitch realise their time is up and need to be moved on ASAP.
Jones, Darmian, Andreas, Fellaini and sadly Mata need to go on top of Rojo and dare I say Lukaku. Ole's style needs a mobile striker with a good touch. Lukaku is not that man, Rashford or Sanchez is.
05 Jan 2019 17:58:47
Hi ed001 hope you are well mate. Are you able to do an article on the top 10 up and coming managers please? Preferably not the household names we know such as Poch or Klopp etc. Would be great if you could also include their style of play as well. I remember seeing we had RB Salzburg manager Marco rose as an option on shortlist for manager and was interested to see what style of play he promotes. Thank you.
{Ed001's Note - I have added that to my to do list for you mate. I should be back to writing articles as normal next week when my parents go back home, I will try and prioritise that one (if I remember).}
05 Jan 2019 18:46:38
Much appreciated ed I hope all is well with you!
{Ed001's Note - very good here mate, been nice having a semi-break and spending time with the old folks. How are things with you Parkie?}
05 Jan 2019 19:05:06
That’s great to hear ed. I am well thanks. Had a crazy Xmas with 40 people around so that was eventful to say the least. And I’ve just started a new job so very busy. But busy is good!
{Ed001's Note - that sounds like fun. I hope the new job works out well for you mate.}
05 Jan 2019 20:05:01
Thank you ed.
{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate, take care.}
05 Jan 2019 09:53:56
OGS discussing thean utd players:
Definitely, players will get the chance. When they’re here, they’re good enough to play for Man United and you trust them, so I’m looking forward to tomorrow. ”
That's what I want to hear and a stark contrast to the last chap.
05 Jan 2019 12:00:53
Even if it’s not true?
05 Jan 2019 12:09:15
Ole is growing on me every day. No fellaini today despite all the changes he only makes the bench. I wonder how much longer he will be at the club.
Looking forward to seeing the game today.
05 Jan 2019 12:30:11
Yes, when if its not true. He needs to make this tram greater than the sum of the parts, and may need to rely on any of those players if injuries etc force his hand. Build them up, make them into more than they were when you found them, that's the managers job.
05 Jan 2019 12:42:09
Fellaini has been linked with a move to turkey for 2 years. If a club finally comes in for him he’ll be off I think.
05 Jan 2019 13:22:49
Yeah and the much appraised Perreira has been at the heart of everything. did he even touch the ball first half? Fellaini would have been much better than the 3 mids that are currently playing.
05 Jan 2019 14:36:17
I agree shan but he is not going to get any better those guys need the opportunity.
05 Jan 2019 14:48:58
Most of that starting team isn't good enough. Pereira convinced me he should be departing. Same with McTominay. Add to that Valencia, Jones, Smalling, Rojo, Fellaini, Mata for sure.
05 Jan 2019 15:40:58
Smalling is a decent 3rd choice cb and can maintain a squad place imo i'd add darmian to that list mort.
05 Jan 2019 20:26:23
Perreira is as much a central midfielder, as I am an international porn star. He's an attacking midfielder.
05 Jan 2019 22:12:36
Yeah I meant to add Darmian. He's the invisible man.
I still don't think Pereira is good enough.
05 Jan 2019 09:52:14
Ole's fifth game today and no doubt a win would escalate the emotional sentimental rollercoaster to a new high, if we win it would be 5 wins, give him the job comments will be everywhere.
Ole is like a temp, temps can be fairly relaxed as they know it isn't permanent, maybe would like it to be, but can go in with a smile, expectation is fairly low. Switch that up to permanent and the expectation at United is at the highest level, staff and players will then demand things, behave differently, objectives will be much much tougher. Unless Ole wins the Champions League, I think we must resist sentiment and appoint the best candidate. Even if he wins in Europe we should think long and hard about it, I have said before on here, consider what happened to DiMateo at Chelsea, who made an emotional decision and then had to sack a legend. The club needs to be objective, what are the plans of the manager to create a dynasty? Then consider him with others along with his record.
This is where it is interesting, Ole bases his plans on SAF, a winning formula from years ago but if Mourinho's methods were considered out of date SAF's date back even further. No doubt I will get the usual outcry but one word is something to concern us over Ole, obsession, obsession with what SAF did, would do, how would SAF do it? We need to move forward as many on here tell us but to do that I don't think an SAF reincarnation is necessarily right.
We all love Ole, I was behind that goal at his and one of our greatest moments so I would rather he walked out next summer head held high than be sacked like DiMateo.
{Ed025's Note - fine post that red man..
05 Jan 2019 10:27:57
Agree totally Red Man.
My preference is that the club appoint the DoF (or Technical Director as is being mentioned) first and hopefully ASAP.
Then the club can go about deciding on the candidates and eventual new manager for the right reasons.
This is the time for Utd to do things correctly.
05 Jan 2019 10:28:45
Great post redman. I agree completely. Love ole but we cannot be prisoners of the moment. Us united fans can be such sentimental folk sometimes. It is so important we appoint the right manager in the summer.
05 Jan 2019 11:06:47
Top post Redman.
05 Jan 2019 11:31:06
Good post redman.
05 Jan 2019 11:38:47
There's no need to rush the decision on ole one way or the other. By the end of March we will know how good ole is.
05 Jan 2019 12:04:14
Get your sentiment Red Man and your concerns, but the fact he is interim manager and Di matteo was too are where the similarities end for me. Totally different people, style of managers and clubs.
Let’s wait and see how he does for fine next 5-6 months. Nobody is clambering for him just yet, but he has made a fine start to life in the hot seat and I dare say we are all enjoying the ride.
05 Jan 2019 12:06:03
Good post.
Ole is doing really well, and riding high on the squad’s visible relief that Jose is gone. But I don’t think he’s the right man long term. It’s a huge step up for him, and we need someone who can bring something new to the club.
05 Jan 2019 12:29:08
Delighted with the start we have made under ole but a lot of teams improve after getting rid of a manager, especially one that had such negativity around the club. Ole said himself after a couple of games that he hadn’t the time to work much tactically with the players. He has gotten the feel good factor back but it’s far too early to tell how he is going to do yet. Maybe getting Jose out has more of an impact than getting ole in. We might have gotten similar results in this run of games with any manager that tells them to go out and just play football.
05 Jan 2019 12:59:03
Red Man i don't disagree with your comment but you only gave one example of the situation, how about Guardiola or Zidane? they didn't have any experience training on first division when they took charge of their beloved teams and they didn't do that bad, did they? why Ole can do similar? he has Mike Phelan as an assistant, not bad i'd say, has changed the mood of the whole team, even the staff, the fans. I'd love to see him getting the job for at least 2 years with an option to 5 if he's done well at the end. We keep going for the wrong managers time after time, its time to give the job to one of our own. I think we will play in the champions league next season and we will have a good run in the current one but we still need improvement, 5 years, 3 managers and none of them realized that we have a very unbalance team? our right side is non existent, Valencia is almost done and the way Ole and co want to play footy Mata doesn't suit that style, way too slow. i've seen people saying we need a centre back asap and we do but to me the position where we need to be looking at to get a replacement is a defensive midfielder because Matic isn't getting any younger and Pereira and Fred aren't good enough.
05 Jan 2019 13:07:39
Unless he wins the Champions League? Would top 4 and an FA Cup win, considering the low base he had to start from, not merit him being considered?
05 Jan 2019 14:54:54
Id favour a three man shortlist with Ole and the managers of Sevilla and RB Salzberg. No more has beens or also rans. Get the next big thing in. Take a risk instead of playing safe and failing.
05 Jan 2019 16:37:25
It would for me stevie.
05 Jan 2019 19:12:38
He'd have to be in the running, Ken. Don't think it'll happen, tho.
05 Jan 2019 20:24:27
Whilst he wins, few if any will complain.
When he loses, will he still be a popular choice on here.
As long as we qualify for CL and have a good cup run etc, and perform well. in the CL then he will have done a good job.
The main thin is to get behind Ole and them team.
05 Jan 2019 23:47:04
Ole has got back the feelgood factor, he knows how to get the best out of Lingard and Pogba, because he has managed them on a youth level.
I think this earned him the respect he needed right away and has helped him alot. I also think Lindelöf being swedish helps alot.
Ive seen most of Molde's matches under Solskjær and the team he had before he went to Cardiff, had won 3 titles in three years and made it thrue to the knockout rounds in the EL. His work with youth is also very good, having a average age of 24 playing youngsters in almost every game.
Erling Braut Haaland came to Molde at 16, never scored at senior level in his former club, was sold to Salzburg, top scorer for Molde in the norwegian league.
I never in my wildest dreams could belive he would get this good of a start, but the first big test comes on the 13th against Spurs and it would be interesting how they react, should they lose.
We can only stand behind him the time he is here, and if by may we have FA cup title or a top four finish, i don't think it would be easy to drop him.
The appointment in the first place reeks of SAF and Sir Bobby, so maybe they would have a say in may aswell?
We can safely say we got some of our DNA back, on the field aswell as in the club. May it long continue!
"AND SOLSKJÆR HAS WON IT! "
06 Jan 2019 09:21:44
Norwegianred
Like I said we need to move forwards not look back, learn from the past but not use it as the blueprint for the future. The club is sentimental and I fear the leadership will make decisions based on that sentiment plus money. We need to stop trying to recreate SAF, they tried it with Moyes and appointing Ole may be another attempt.
Questions
Will, by appointing Ole, it keep supporters happy with the owners and board, keep the image nice to ensure fans continue buying products? ; Will, by appointing Ole, it save paying out a big payment to secure another manager? (Imagine the horror at the financial cost (£40m) of getting Poch, dividends may have to be reduced) ; Will, by appointing Ole, it mean there will be less pressure from the manager to spend big money on players? (The club can become a real financial powerhouse delivering improving results as other large companies aim to) . The answer is yes and that is a worry, the question should be, Will, by appointing Ole, it take the club forward giving it the strength of leadership and back to the top of English and European football?
I can already see the start of the softening, fans being gullible calling for him to be appointed, hints he has support of the board in particular SAF to be permanent, it worries me to be honest. Love Ole, for his work as a player, for the fact his heart is in the right place but as the permanent manager when our two biggest rivals have better managers is a recipe for major concern and no amount of sentiment heaped on fans is going to make it right. There is a very small chance he can truly demonstrate he has what it takes in the next six months but even then it would be a major risk.
06 Jan 2019 11:39:49
Of course we should not appoint a manager of sentimental reasons and of course not copy SAF in any terms.
Solskjær is for shure not SAF and he is not trying to copy him in every sense, but he is a smart guy and a better manager than people would think.
Appointing Moyes to try to emulate SAF didn't go at all, but Moyes also changed the backroom staff and clearly didn't get the senior players respect. He also didn't make it in the transfer market and it went on a downward spiral.
I don't know if it would work, neither would we know how Poch would have or Zidane, who i would think is the wrong choice.
We can only wait to see how he sets up his team against the big sides and I've seen his set up at Molde against far better teams and beat them. They beat Fenerbache away 4-1 and the Fenerbache fans stood up and applauded the Molde players the last ten minutes of the match.
They also beat Sevilla home 1-0 in the quarter finale of the EL the same season, when it was winter break in the norwegian league.
He is a winner, both as a player and as a manager even though it was the norwegian league.
Im a patriot of course, so i will stsnd by him as long as he is here, mostly as a Man United fan, but also as a fellow norwegian. 😁.
05 Jan 2019 07:29:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 5th January 2019
05 Jan 2019 09:45:05
Nice read Ed001 particularly the one on Rubbish Injury.
I enjoyed reading that short and very funny part 🤣🤣🤣.
👏👏.
{Ed001's Note - glad you enjoyed mate. The injury is bizarre.}