Manchester United Banter Archive November 05 2013

05 Nov 2013 22:23:27
wussup lads ain't posted in a long time most of won't remember me, anyway watching the game 2nite so p'd off not jus because of the lack of flair, passion, movement and general lack of balace in the side my main problem is I think i'm actually beginning 2 HATE valencia I haven't been his biggest fan for a while, but my dislike for him has hit a new low and turned into hatred! he only either ruins buid up play or runs in straight lines he doesn't know the meaning of creativity as I say don't post often but I had to let it out and share my hatred.
i hate u enough said.

05 Nov 2013 22:54:56
good one mate, let it alll out:)

There were a lot worse utd players than valencia played tonight

Haha Valencia was one of our better players, along with Smalling, Rooney, Rvp, Kagawa (second half) Vida + Rio and maybe Evra. Giggs in the middle once again was awful, Fellaini apart from a couple of tackles never made any great passes. Chica didn't do the only thing he's good at, putting the ball in the net from infront of the goal.

The game was crying out for a bit of confidence and determination to get forward, basically Januzaj.

Thought apart from the sending off, Fellaini was pretty decent last night.

Some decent passes forward to try and start attacks, and a good physical presence throughout.

Can look clumsy though, I admit.

I think Fellaini's best game so far in a United shirt was against Leverkusen, genuinely made some passes Carrick would be proud of. Since then i've seen nothing great of him.

05 Nov 2013 22:11:11
Ashley Young is the worst player I've seen in a long time at united, he offers absolutely nothing, I'd actually pay someone to get him off the wage bill, what an embarrassment

Not my favourite player either but to be fair he did win a penalty and put in a mint cross for rvp to hit the post.

not bad for 10 minutes on the pitch

Yes he did " win " a penalty!

Fully took the words from my mouth. Every time I see him on the pitch, every touch of the ball I end up shouting at the screen. He's just so predictable and seems to have lost all his speed and skill. I would love to see him sold, that in itself would be progress in the transfer window.

05 Nov 2013 21:41:05
Well I don't know what everyone else thinks but that was really poor. Weaker than dishwater. No cutting edge other than about 3 minutes, nothing to shout about. Its crazy, but without Januzaj, Rooney and RVP on the pitch at the same time, we have no spark. Very disappointed and hugely pissed off to see us not get the victory - money lost from my pocket, 2 points lost and an hour and a half of life wasted. Moyes didn't look too happy either (which is a good thing).

05 Nov 2013 21:11:40
Redman, the Tampa Bay issue is one that I have raised a number of times on this site. It was not so long ago the Bucs won the Superbowl - since then it has been down hill all the way. This season they are 0-8.

Not only has there been a lack of investment in players at United compatible with market forces, what spending we have made has largely been to acquire players who are simply not of the quality to compete at the highest levels, or not what was required to address the weaknesses in the team. RVP was a great short term acquisition, de Gea a long term one, and Chicharito was a steal, but other than that, who?

Peashooter

You only have to look at the state of the team tonight to see the lack of investment. We are so far away from the quality of the top teams it is concerning

Agreed. too many players who are good and but no where near enough who are consistently excellent.

I think about 10 top players need bringing in before this squad is anywhere near the best European teams

05 Nov 2013 20:57:35
Innit - going to stay awake till the end tho'

05 Nov 2013 19:02:51
Rvp on the bench, quite surprised at that

Y? he's carrying knocks and its an ideal time to rest him

Chris
He didn't look like he was carrying a knock at the weekend it was his best game of the season for me .

05 Nov 2013 13:16:42
I have a few questions:

1. Which of SAF's transfer deals did Moyes supposedly scupper, if indeed this was the case?
2. Would you expect United's approach to the January window to be different depending on our position in the league at Xmas time.
3. While top players may be cup tied and, in any event may not want to leave contending teams during mid-season, will Moyes's approach be driven by achieving a top 4 finish above all other concerns, or by building for the longer term.
4. Does the fact that the summer transfer window will be effectively foreshortened/complicated by the World Cup, add to the need to bring in players this winter?
5. Will the Glazers actually open the chequebook if Moyes can identify appropriate targets?
6 Given service our strike force (Rooney, Chicha, RVP, Januzaj) seems as good as any teams, and de Gea is clearly world class. Other than Rafael and Carrick, who is good enough but is aging, is there anyone who doesn't need replacing if we are to remain a top European team?

1. Garay, Strootman and Thiago?
2. Not really, Moyes still knows regardless of a few good results, we still need quality adding to the team.
3. Top 4 without question, large amount of money to miss out on otherwise.
4. I don't think so, we just need to be better prepared and carry out business earlier.
5. Yes.
6. In the short term Rio, Vidic and Evra need replacing. In the not to distant future, I'd say that Carrick also does, preferably sooner rather than later as although he's been great for us, we need legs in the middle. 3 or 4 quality signings over the next two windows should sort the first team out as currently, I don't think Moyes has a clue what his best #11 is. We have too many players who have a good game or two, then play awful. We need consistency.

I still think Strootman was just what we needed. A lot of fans said he was slow and not United quality etc but he has gone to Roma and, so far, shown to be a success. Yes it is Serie A where the pace of the game is slower but he is an important part to a good side. It's especially galling if it was true that Moyes decided against a deal for him considering he then went out and spent so heavily on Fellaini.

5. The answer to this question remains to be seen. The Glazers have yet to stamp any authority on the market, a market that has moved on in the last few years and we are yet to see our owners catch up. I noted they wouldn't go the last few million for Herrera in summer and Woodwards recent comments were revealing. We are suffering from a chronic lack of major investment in the best players during recent years, years where our better players have aged and the first team standard declined, an average £25m a season just will not bring us up to speed. Take a look at Tampa Bay and a US football fan was telling me they are suffering from under investment.
It is time for the Glazers to bring us back to the level by spending but I am yet to be convinced they will

05 Nov 2013 07:45:05
am I the only one who thinks that chicharito retweeting sky's article about his future was stupid, .i mean its not like he is benched for macheda but for two of the best strikers in the world, and beside I think kagawa has received worse treatment than him.i think there are better ways of voicing his opinions rather than social media

Well maybe he wants to go to a team where he doesn't have to rival 2 of the world's best strikers.

It would be a shame if he left, and by no means I want him to leave. BUT he's never really developed his all round game to make it at United. His finishing and the runs he makes are truly top class but his control is worse than a pissed donkey. Also I don't think i've ever seen him score a goal from outside the penalty area, not necessarily a bad thing just putting it out there.