Manchester United Banter Archive July 06 2013

06 Jul 2013 22:06:09
MUFC

I'm sure you all think you are the greatest supporter of the club and your view is most important because of this or that

Now i'm not saying Rooney saga or the the glazers are great and everything is rosy but surely we should just stick together and concentrate on supporting and encouraging our club and players and let the club deal with the rest!

I for one just want to get to the start of the season and see how we play

So no one is ever allowed to say anything negative about our club again. Or have an opinion on owners, manager or players. There! Well, I've enjoyed the posts and banter over the last few years but that's it. Done, over. Unless your posting to pat the boys on the back after a shambolic performance.

Boyley

Nice one big v,

Boring old first time poster here and going to bullet it to keep it short and sweet:

- David moyes handled his first press conference with respect, confidence and positive undertones (personally was gunning for mourinho originally for charisma and track record but fully behind DM now and until he retires at 70)

- midfield is our least strongest part and I hope Thiago signs on as I think he will be a lovely new ginger prince

- a bit more controversial I hope that DM brings in Fellaini behind him (a bit of Keano passion and will be a great companion for our Serbian giant for RVP's handsome corners)

- personally I would like nani to stay, inconsistent yes but I have a feeling DM would iron out his final 3rd bad decisions, look at pienaar hardly world class but a handful at the toffees. It's a question of head focused not lack of talent

- finally a new song for chicarito who is a lovely player to the tune of Fernando by Abba - please someone kick it off as I don't get to enough games anymore

"Chicarito score us a goal!
You've come all the way from Mexico!

Ooh ooh ooh ooh ooooooh (you know the chorus bit)

Chicarito scores us one more goal!"

Simple and beautiful and will keep him smiling like solskjaer always did.

Big season ahead, good luck all

Hartshead Pike

Boyley
Grow up, talk about taking yourself too serious or what.
Football is our life, full of opinions and attitude we are nothing in the grand scheme of things but this site allows us to be the owner/manager/coach or teammate if you know what I mean yes fantasy football.
So chill out give us your feedback and don't give a flying f--- what any of us think. Its what we do!
Dylan

Dylan, Did u not detect a hint of sarcasm in my post? I may have been a bit harsh but I was replying to BigVs " thinking your the greatest supporter" and " Let the club deal with the rest. " So Dylan, read my post again and realise I agree with everything u said about opinions etc. That is the point I was trying to make.
Boyley

You tried Boyley You tried

Boyley

Sarcasm has a tendency not to work on this page!

Boyley
Sorry pal
Dylan

06 Jul 2013 21:26:56
My friend works at Carrington - Regarding THAT press conference - Do not be sure Rooney is staying. He is however being really put to the test in training apparently Moyes has been making them do something called "It pays to be a winner" and Rooney isn't "winning" so has to do the most sprints etc? United will NOT sell Rooney on Rooney`s terms and if nobody pays top dollar then Moyes will be sure to make Rooney EARN his massive salary.
Apparently Rooney turned up very out of shape despite what Moyes said - A lot of politics and such being played out in front of us - Important to see a bigger picture regarding Rooney - He has NOT been forgiven it seems and Moyes is carrying Fergie`s unfinished business forward regarding Wayne. Fergie wanted Rooney to be booed on medals day for sure and that sort of enemy always finished the battle. He`s no longer manager, but he ain`t dead either.

At the end of the day Fergie is still the most powerful person within Manchester United, as he is now on the board he will have a say on ALL matters. He will make sue that Rooney will pay for his latest tantrum, if he stays he will have his new hair well and truely ruffled. More than likely he will go but he will leave on our terms. Moyes will not go against SAF on this or any other issue.
Imagine Rooney and Kloot have now something in common they have both backed themselves in to a corner and upset Utd fans LOL

Sir Alex already carrying out his ambassadorial role out perfectly, he will probably be on our screens today at Wimbledon where Manchester United will get mentioned fantastic marketing for all our friends and foes abroad.
I see Bayern games with their ex players all sat in the directors box and immediately you see success, continuity and strength it's no fluke just well oiled machinery!
Dylan

06 Jul 2013 20:16:10
Kloot seems to know how to make this place interesting. His views are strong, but I feel most of the time, he does it to cause a stir. Quite like it if I'm honest.

Yeah me too. the debates get a bit heated sometimes and there's often disagreement but I think at the end of the day we all realise we're on the same side

06 Jul 2013 19:08:45
Wheres all this name calling come from all of a sudden?
KLOOT gets the most abuse and tbh most of ot is simply because its KLOOT and I actually defended him the other day but then he goes and starts abusing someone else about there age or because theyr not from manchester so he kind of loses my sympathy.
Who cares how old someone is? i'm 35 and from salford but there's people on this site who are over 15 yrs younger and from 200miles away from OT. so what? We all use this site for one reason, MANCHESTER UNITED.
We all have different opinions and that's what makes this site interesting but when people start abusing people then it kind of loses its fun! let's stop the name calling eh and get back to the friendly banter its ridiculous and some on here are starting to resemble bullies!

BABY FACED ASSASiN

Iam 21 from india miles away from old trafford. I have never been to old trafford But I can assure I am mad for utd like any of you. I log into this site every time hoping a signing is confirmed or some updated news of my beloved club MANCHESTER UNITED. We are a family whch resides allover the world.

Sid

I think kloot can defend himself. He also starts a lot of the 'abuse' and banter so I would imagine he is ok when people reply to him. It is a banter site after all.

I think characters like KLOOT make this site all the more interesting. I rarely agree with him, but find his posts funny and interesting. Better have him than not. We just need to cut the name calling out.

Sid - Siddharth, Where in India are you from?

Deeps.

Quality lads, United Reds in union backing each other regardless of age or location. Kloot give it a rest with the abuse of the youngsters old boy.

Well said BFA. I am from North Manchester & have followed United for 50 years now. I remember Law, Best, Charlton, I also remember Milne, Birtles, Jackson (look it up). I went to Fergies 1st game at Oxford away, was there when Law scored the back heel, was there when Robins scored the winner at Forest away, was there when Bruce got that late late goal verses Sheff Weds. remember the ref got changed, was there in Rotterdam & it absolutely pi$%ed it down. Went to West Brom 3 times & everytime got hammered at least 3-0. Was there when we signed Robbo to replace Gery Daly on the pitch against Wolves, guess what Daly scored a hatrick. etc etc. So when somebody comes on here & starts to spout s$&t about being (in the know) or a real fan then take a deep breath & think. I was also there when Que sera sera was first sung (for about 80 mins) at Leicester City away in the cup. Rmember a couple called Roy & Rosie, we used to meet on the Stretford End at every home game. We & they were no glory hunters because we were a very poor team then but we didn't give a sh"t, they were our team. Fast forward 30/40 years & we should be signing him, him, & him. We should stop being slapped arses & support our new manager & the team, END OF. MIDDLETON RED

And I was round when jesus christ 
Had his moment of doubt and pain.
kloot does it again lol {Ed007's Note - OOoo whooo...}

NOT DOUBTING you as a true utd fan my friend but robbo was bought to replace mcilroy

Hello ed 007 - nice holiday?

Good to see little Klooty boy back on form i. e. being a miserable old bugger. {Ed007's Note - I've missed him lol}

I am from mumbai deeps


Sid

06 Jul 2013 18:37:58
Dear KLOOT, I'm 16 years old, from Northen Ireland, I can't make every game so does this mean I'm any less off a fan than you? NO. I go out of my way to watch us every week may it be on tv, or via a stream. The simple fact is not everyone can afford to go to old Trafford and watch us every week. We have 659 million fans around the world and only 76,000 are at old Trafford, does that make the rest of our fans arround the world less of a supporter than you? I read this earlier and spoke with my friend and we spoke about players going to clubs with no tradition for money and we both agreed if we had the chance to play for Manchester United we wouldn't care abou the money we'd sign any contract in front of us. I feel and I'm sure most people on here will agree to, if you support your club from the heart and show the passion you have for your club then you are as much of a fan as anyone else in the world.

Well said. We've been through this one with KLOOT before mate

BBOOOM! Smashed it out for the count and you can't hit back because he's only 16!

J J

Well said, I'm a die hard fan living in Costa Rica and agree with you completely.

Well said caolan about time Kloot or whatever its name is realizes that Manchester United fans are global and cannot for 1 reason or another get to the games, all I can say to him is support the team stop slagging off everyone concerned with M. U
redtonka

I'm 16 too. Yes I don't go to every game, and yes my knowledge of the history of the club is quite rusty. But my knowledge of United over the last 10 years is fantastic, and I'm quite sure I understand modern day footballing tactics and the style of play etc than Kloot does

Nathaniel

I do understand the traditions of our club, yeah I didn't see George best, I didn't see Bobby Charlton, Tommy Taylor, Duncan Edwards but I know these men were great. I ask my grandfather about Edwards and he says that he would have been considered the greatest ever! I feel I understand what it takes to play for Manchester United, players like Darren Fletcher wear their heart on their sleeve, not the greatest player but he gives everything. But finally KLOOT I'd like you to answer this, have you missed a united game in the last 2 years? I may not have been there but I haven't missed a game.

06 Jul 2013 17:48:51
can anyone say what has or is happened to this site in the past weeks, not only is there hardly any rumours and the eds appear to have stopped answering or comment. the site now provides sparse info.

Eds are on strike

Not really, just everyone is saying the same thing, garay, baines, strootman, thiago etc to come in, nani, bebe, machaeda, evra to go out and then there's there big 2 will rooney go (imo yes) and will cristiano come back (imo no)
the ed's must get bored reading and posting the same thing but that is what is most likely to happen so is kinda inevitable

I miss the eds. :- (

BowlDonBowl

06 Jul 2013 16:55:29
Just googled 'KLOOT definition'. It defines KLOOT as the following:

1. A clown with no feet

2. A religion based around the teachings of the Ancient philosopher Klootihious. These lessons dictate one dedicates his or her to life to being content with what they are handed. A Kloot loves sleep and Their beloved bed and always opts to take the chill way out.

Make of that what you will.

Just read more. Kloot comes from old Dutch and means:

1. Sphere or ball
2. Testicle

I promise you I am not making this up.

Klooted cream

AJH - I so want this to be true, I'm not even going to spoil things by checking it.

06 Jul 2013 15:50:21
What's everyone's problem with the Glazers. To all intensive purposes their not bad owners.

1. They don't get involved in footballing decisions.
2. They give you money when it's needed.
3. The debt is going down.

What's the problem now exactly?

J J. . Dear J J there are certain things we can gather from your post. You are obviously under 20 or you are still at school. You have never actually been to see United live but you manage them on your computer. Or maybe your just an utter C**T.

Now go and learn your history about this club and its support then look at what the Glazers have done to it.

When did football knowledge come with age Kloot?

Kloot,

Not surprised you dived straight in on this message and I wholeheartedly agree with your response to him.

Guess you will ignore that I said this next time you come to make your biased points about me being a glazer sympathiser though.

First of all I m against the glazers (just clearing)
Now
So according to u Mr KLOOT
If we are under 20, in school, never been to OT and have manchester united on our computer does that us or hundreds of others makes a less of a supporter than you?
I just think if a person follows MANCHESTER UNITED from his heart he is a supporter.
I don't criticize the management and players as long as they are wearing the jersey unlike you, moaning at every move our club does.
i m proud to be a manchester united fan and I have never been to OT nd do have United on my computer can u say the same?

They are business men and they have managed the club like a business and debt aside which is going dwn they are managing the club to a heathly state kloot you must still be in school calling people names your a big baby people can have there own original views u call him a h**f and to be fair everyone on this site thinks your the biggest one

Dio1989

JJ
1. They don't get involved in footballing decisions.
2. They give you money when it's needed.
3. The debt is going down.

The debt is a disgrace that was foisted on our club. If they had borrowed to put money into our club then ok but it wasn't, it was because they didn't have the money to buy us and we the club and the fans will pay that debt back for them, so they, not us. will have a fabulously valuable asset that they own. Brilliant business for them and yet some just can't see the damage done to our club by it. Tens of millions disappearing in interest not on players.
They give money when needed do they? Well since Berbatov we haven't really spent big, yes I will hear top money for a young goalkeeper RVP but where were we when players like Aguero became available. This summer is the one because if we don't see quality Moyes may well struggle.
The debt may be going down but it shouldn't have been there in the first place and there is no defined method of repaying it. Appeasement of the Glazers given the debt round our necks with nothing to show for that debt is very sad and probably a reflection of the modern supporter

Red Man

What has age got to do with anything to do with football? I'm under the age of 20, yet I have my own season ticket and attend the games week in week out despite having to travel 50+ miles, does that make me any less of a supporter than you? No.

Come on chaps, he's a young lad. By all means educate him but let's not abuse him. Sorry JJ, this is a bit emotive, especially for us older fans.

Not just the Glazers though is it? for them to buy' someone had to sell. perhaps we need to go further back to the muppets who listed the club as a PLC?

If you defend the Glazers, you probably don't know anything about them.

GAGUS, don't know if your post was aimed at me, but all I'm saying is there is a wider picture and more than the Glazers to consider when looking at how the club has ended up in this position.

I'm no supporter of the Glazers 'cos I do believe we have badly suffered in the transfer market because of the money taken out of the club to service the debt.

However, ask yourself this; if you were in the position of the Glazers and you could pull of the deal they did - would you? I know I would, whether it was man utd, the chicago bulls or the new york yankees.

The response to gagus was from me but wasn't logged on

Redman, Kloot

i know you don't want to hear this but the glazers are not bad owners!
don't get me wrong, they are certainly not good ones and the way they got the club in the first place was disgraceful BUT since they took over we have enjoyed one of the most successful periods in our history.

they 'bought' us for £800m but we are now worth over 3. 3 BILLION dollars (forbes) and as of may our debt stood at £367.6m (fallen 16% since june) and with new deals with aon, nike etc we could soon be virtually debtless whilst having the biggest sporting brand in the world (57% ahead of our nearest competitor- dallas cowboys)

the truth is a lot of our on field success is down to SAF, but the glazers recognised that in order for them to be successful, utd must be successful. they have given the manager what ever he needed as HE saw fit, in other words the reason we did not go for players like aguero is because he did not want them (or they chose elsewhere), if the boss really wants a player the glazers have supported him, they do not interfere with the club or force certain players transfers /team selection essentially what you would want in a manager

Dags

We enjoyed one of the most successful periods in our history but check out the key vital players that got us there.

Giggs and Scholes pre Glazer, Rooney, Ronaldo and Ferdinand all bought pre Glazer. Given those major players are either gone or nearing the end let's us see how your not so bad Glazers perform in the transfer market

Red Man

Van Der Sar, Vidic, Evra, Carrick, Nani (one great season), Berbatov (one great season), Hernandez, Valencia, RvP (last season) have all made a difference to us winning the league in the past seven years.

Hopefully we will look back in 5/6/7 years and say DDG, Rafael, Jones, Smalling, Baines? Garay? Thiago? Kagawa, Zaha, Powell, RvP etc were key signings to have helped us to our latest successes.

Sydney!

06 Jul 2013 14:19:38
It's just a pity that he couldn't stay behind in the gym to get his ass into shape. Practicing headers, finishing & shooting has naff all to do with your fitness. You get fit in the gym, somewhere where our ex-fitness coach Mick Clegg says Rooney done his best to swerve.

I would say our ex-fitness coach knows a little more than our ex-goalkeeping coach. SAF has criticised Rooney's fitness, Wayne himself has criticised his fitness. Eric Steele doesn't mention his fitness once in the above post. It's his fitness that the majority on here, SAF, sports pundits etc have been questioning.

One thing people like Jred are missing here which is a very important question is if Vidic is saying he is the fittest he has seen him in years, then 'WHY' couldn't Rooney stay this fit all year round? And why wasn't he this fit all last season when he kept being dropped due to fitness? Answer that one then.

Sydney!

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Its a pity Syd. You usually get your info spot on. I am afraid this time you havent. Please read Mick Clegg's "clarification article" on his website. You will find whatever you are saying is actually the journo taking it completely out of context. The anti Rooney agenda. Do read it mate.

Deeps.

Deeps, I have read his quotes. I know the media have exaggerated things, and that is why you must read the quotes and nothing more. I read the quotes mate. Got to go bud, sorry.

Sydney!

Awryt! Have a good one. I was not talking about his quotes which were taken out of context, I was talking about the article on his personal website clarifying his stand. Anyone interested can google it.

Deeps.

06 Jul 2013 13:57:40
Spanish newspapers saying Thiago deal is only days from being completed. He is supposedly going to sign a 5 year deal and the fee is about £15.5mil
Personally I think if this deal goes through we are only one midfield player away from having an unbelievable 4-2-3-1 formation with rooney kagawa and thiago playing behind RVP and carrick plus one other new signing sitting in front of our backs
Any thoughts on who this other player could be?

Heard a rumour a while ago about us being interested in Claudio Marchisio from Juve. Haven't heard anything in a while but he would certainly be a player who could fill that role

Yes Jones
Steve

I think the plan was for Strootman initially, but perhaps Moyes wants Fellaini instead or perhaps PSV are being unreasonable with their valuation of Strootman so we are looking at cheaper options? Kondogbia perhaps? Who knows.

Perhaps whilst I pop out to the pub for a pint or ten there will be some movement? Things usually happen when I am occupied with family life so hopefully something happens this afternoon whilst at the pub. Thiago confirmed would be nice.

Ciao for now lads.

Sydney!

Except thiago is a central midfielder so why do you want to play him on the wing?

Thiago is an attacking midfielder and is pretty versatile. A player of his talent could easily play anywhere across a three with rooney and kagawa. They could all play left right or through the centre which gives us many options

06 Jul 2013 13:12:56
I think that Rooney has not said he wants to stay because in the press conference, when the press asked David
If Wayne had actually said that h wanted to stay at Manchester united. his reply was " he has been working incredibly hard in training the last few days and he is as high in fitness as he has been in the last few days" they asked him again he said the same like he was avoiding the answer. Why keep a player who wants to go its no good for the squad
but a Wayne Rooney in high fitness is obviously god for any squad I hope that he does want to stay if he is Fit and sharp

It was well planned/scripted and DM would have practiced it over and over again. That press conference hasn't shown us anything new whatsoever. It does show us how well DM can sidestep a question though.

Sydney!

06 Jul 2013 12:55:45
Pretty much every Spanish paper is saying Thiago is coming to us.

06 Jul 2013 12:05:16
I really really hope I am wrong but I am beginning to fear that Alcantara will not be moving to Manchester United. I've been upset on many occasions when United miss out on their big targets. The deal SHOULD be pretty straight forward, the release clause returns to 77m on August 1 so United have to up their game and hit the current clausr and I have no idea why they haven't already, he is a steal! I just fear that hat should be a straight forward deal is taking too long for my comfort and I am having my doubts. I hope I'm wrong and he comes.

Your wrong stop worrying.
Dylan

06 Jul 2013 11:21:19
Moyes interview was great. I think he showed that he is now the new manager and whatever happened between Fergie and Rooney is in the past and Moyes is about a new beginning. I also got the impression Manchester United will be signing one player or two and Moyes wants to give everyone a chance before he decides who moves on January or next year. That player coming in will be Baines and maybe an unknown midfielder holding midfielder. We have Kagawa already in attacking mid. Moyes will try not to make too many changes in his first year.

Alcantara deal is a done deal. It is the same thing with Martinez last year and Bayern and unwilling selling club that can't do much about it but can make it difficult for the buying club.

The buy out clause and tax issues complicates things and it takes longer than the usual domestic transfers to sort through everything.

Shahram

I hope he doesn't miss out on Thiago, just to give people like cleverly and anderson a chance to show they are up to the standard, because that would be a very bad idea.
DHK

06 Jul 2013 11:07:37
Does anyone have anything promising to tell us regarding any potential signings? I'm starting to get nervous like I do every summer transfer window due to the speed on which things get done. Even the most season hardened fan must admit we've lost out on targets before and with rivals starting to pick up some pace with their targets. Were still looking idle! Please someone calm my nerves?

1. Thiago and lew going to chelsea
2. Ronaldo going to City
3. Bale going to Madrid

I hope that calms your nerves down :)

Shahram

06 Jul 2013 10:57:28
Neymar : "Rooney is one of the best strikers I have ever seen. England is nothing without Rooney. I hope I can play with him some day"
Mourinho :"of course he would be a great addition for Chelsea"
Wenger : "He is one of the best English player I have ever seen and I would definitely want him at Arsenal"
Wilshire : "Seeing the name Rooney only in the list would scare the opposition"
Luiz : " Players like Rooney having so much capability are always welcomed at chelsea "
Ancelotti : " Rooney can tear any defence apart
Tevez : "Rooney and Messi are the players I took inspiration from "

It seems that every other person except the poster of this page want Rooney at their team and know what he is capable of. I am happy that Moyes has clarified Rooney's future.
Some fans here remember his weight, his wages, how he spent his holidays or how many time he looses the ball. but I remember him for his goals, passion, enthusiasm and dedication for Manchester United for such a long period.
for every fan here barking about his wages. u have no idea how much Manchester United earns just by the name "ROONEY"
Thanks Rooney for your goals for us and your dedication. your bicycle kick against city and thrilling pass to RVP for that volley will always give me smile in my face when I grow old.
Well and the fans who hate him, u have no right to enjoy his goals when he scores next season.
I love Rooney
I love MANCHESTER UNITED

Win loose or tie
Man Utd till I die

Yes, some people don't realize that despite being a striker, he can play any position on the pitch and is a complete footballer. He is 2-3 players rolled into one, and he never formally asked for a transfer. He was being substituted often so he just went and had a word with Sir. Alex if he was really wanted at the club. He has been with us from the age of 18 and given everything, but still I'm astounded when some people want Ronaldo over him. People at least should be able to appreciate how many times he has carried us over the years!

What do we earn from rooney? it doesn't matter if we sell a million kits of only kits with rooney's name on the back we get a flat fee from nike.

Great post!

I don't agree with everything, Rooney's attitude is what starts the swing in opinion, but the passion in your post is infectious. I would live to see Rooney's spark coming back.

I think a front three of RVP, Rooney and Kags could be very dangerous. But Rooney needs to get his passion and enthusiasm back. If he can't, I'd rather he moved abroad and we moved on.

My favorite Rooney goal was his goal of the season a few years back, he was fuming arguing with the ref when he spun round and volleyed the ball from miles out straight into the top corner. One if the best goals I've ever seen, and for a second I thought he was going to have another go at the ref!

Memory must be going these days, can't remember who we were playing, anyone?

This is a good post. A lot of United fans have become blinded as to how good he is purely because this whole transfer request saga.

Like Moyes said yesterday he's 40-50 goals behind United's all time top goal scorer Sir Bobby Charlton and he's still at the club and able to surpass that which surely makes him immensely iconic and successful FOR Manchester United yet people want him gone?

I for one love Rooney, he's the pinicle of English footballers and has been the last 10 years.

Ozwald

Aakrozz, I totally I agreed with you mate

Those players/managers are not judging Rooney on last season alone, they are talking about his career as a whole and I would fully agree with them. Rooney has been a great player for MU and for me he has only had one disappointing season and that's last season. He will never be the player he was in 2009/10 again, but if he can stay 100% fit and work hard for the team he will still be a top player. No one has ever said otherwise. You can only judge a player on his most recent season and he was poor last season. let's hope if he stays, last season was a one off.

Sydney!

, but if he can stay 100% fit and work hard for the team he will still be a top player. No one has ever said otherwise.
Sydney

You sure about that
Jred

Totally agree. We've got to keep him despite what some posters say. He's a fantastic player at his prime. If he goes, I want to see what the haters have to say when he starts banging in the goals for another team.
The he earns too much money argument doesn't wash with me, as they akl earn too much miney. So get behind him, the team and the manager and stop this silly hate campaign.
Nomidfield

100% sure Jred.

Search the archives.

My opinion hasn't changed in regards to Rooney.

Sydney!

Aakrozz good post! its nice to see we still have fans who remember the fottballing contribution of players! Rooney on a crap season still comes in 8th place when you combine PL league goals and assists last season.
Now maybe the Rooney haters will understand why any club would want him!

Think the Rooney goal you mentioned was against Newcastle.

06 Jul 2013 09:01:08
Now that's unusual, nani, young and smalling are injured and won't be making pure season.
When we're talking about players being sold, these lot along with Anderson, should be the first out of the door.
Nomidfield

Smalling?
Steve

You want to get rid of Smalling?

MEF

Smalling? He is going to be one of the best centre halves in the county in the next 3-4 years, you have to be kidding me.

GDS

He is great talent but a little bit like Richards at city, being injured more often than fit, which is worrying.

Vidic and Rio for me are still or best defenders.

Shahram

Sharham,

That doesn't mean we should sell him though does it? He's still young and very talented and our best 2 CB's will be gone within the next few years. No way would/should Smalling be sold.

06 Jul 2013 08:15:26
hoping we get at least a couple of our targets before the tour next week I would much prefer to get our business done early so the manager can hit the ground running this is what our rivals seem to be doing although I imagine it is pretty hectic forDM at the minute can't be an easy transition coming from everton to the biggest job in world football

My nephew bumped into Leighton Baines last night watching Miles Kane supporting courteeners asked him is he signing, his response I've not made my mind up!
Sounds as if we have a strong chance otherwise he'd have said no
Dylan

06 Jul 2013 06:56:20
Like phelan said I think Rooney needs a new chanllenge and so do we I would accept david villa and barca's offer as villa wudn't demand first team shirt like the likes of lewandoski would and can be used out wide too think we should try and get gaitan as he is a creative spark with signings like baines, strootman, thiago, and giving nani another season cause I don't think he is worse than young and valencia and if the three were on form I would pick nani all the way and vanpersie and more chances 4 chicharito and welbeck with villa adding experience we are a much better side. This is my first post here I have been a regular ready of this site 4 a year now shoutout to kloot and all.

06 Jul 2013 01:59:01
Couldn't be happier with Moyes first public remarks. Put the Rooney issue aside, it happened before my time, Wayne is staying, let's move on. It's amazing when David Moyes and every single elite European club wants wayne rooney but the persons on this site want him gone. Now we just have to close the Thiago deal and figure out who is the 4th attacker with Rooney/Kagawa/RVP. If we don't get a Ronaldo/Bale, then both formation and team selection gets very complicated.

06 Jul 2013 10:07:34
So because some of us dislike the oaf as a man and dislike him for how he's disrespected the club and all involved we're persons? Nice. How about you and all the other fools who blindly forgive him and think he's bigger than the club are the persons. Moyes was asked four times about Rooney and dodged the question every time. Doesn't show he's staying to me. Shows the club is playing hardball. If he wants to go he has to ask. If he wants to stay he has to work. Personally i'd still sell him. MrE

Yes it was scripted, planned and executed very well. Couple of mistakes in there by Moyes, but he has time to learn.

Sydney!

Completely agree with you mate!
Fans here have no idea what a big loss it would be, had Rooney left us.
Rooney has given us so much to enjoy but now every other fans love him but some Utd fans hate him. That's sad

06 Jul 2013 11:06:00
Go 110% all out and pay something ridiculous that Dortmund simply cannot refuse for Marco Reus if we can't get Ronaldo/Bale

06 Jul 2013 01:08:57
so many arguments bout rooney and anderson personally I wouldn't mind 2 c dem both leave wot bout every1 else u shappy, kloot

06 Jul 2013 07:54:05
I think its clear where I stand. I feel abit sorry for Anderson, he has been unfortunate that he has played in a position unsuited to him and he has constantly picked up injuries so has been unable to gain any momentum. He hasn't helped himself though as he could keep himself in better shape while out injured. But imo he needs to move on to give him a chance of having a proper career.

Rooney is still a good player who has shown a. sign or two of decline ( his lost of pace and his poor first touch which used to be so good). Wayne is the kind of player who needs to feel loved and wanted. Its a character flaw if you will. He isn't the strong self confident person that players such as Cantona or Keane were. As such he needs to feel loved to boost his self esteem. Sir Alex had certainly gone colder on him since his first transfer request, and that could be attributed to Wayne not feeling happy at the club.

Imo there is an a group of people within Old Trafford who want to see the back of Wayne. Either because it makes financial sense this summer, or because of the way he constantly brings bad press to the clubs door, or because of the way he treated the club in order to get his last contract. So the people who want rid of him have plenty of reason to. Add to that the few areas of decline he is showing and it makes more and more sense to sell now.

I've never said that he is washed up and a crap player, just that he is on the deline and will never be as good as he was again. He might be able to get his first touch back, but he'll never regain that explosive pace.

Then on a personal side I hate the way he has treated the club I love, the way he has made Sir Alex look abit of a fool, and the way his private life keeps effecting the club. So for me I will never be a fan of Wayne Rooney again.

But it is Moyes who will decide if Wayne stays or goes. And I will back his judgement as he is better placed to make that call. If Rooney stays at the club I will support him while he wears the shirt, I will cheer him on for the good of the team and the club I love.

But deep down i'll never forgive Wayne, and I will be glad when he leaves our club. Be that this summer or whenever.

05 Jul 2013 23:45:06
05 Jul 2013 16:49:37
What a surprise I out GDS as the Glazer sympothist that he is and he declares that I am an attention seeking troll. Carry on doing your masters work GDS but I will keep on till we are rid of the money grabbing Cancer.
I AM KLOOT

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Evening kloot, just come on the website and seen this post, made me laugh my head off. You 'outed me' as a glazer sympathist about a year ago and I comment on a post you make where you sounded so much like a troll it was unreal and here you go again.

I have said hundreds of times I dislike the glazers, in fact the post I called you a troll on was absolutely nothing to do with the glazers, it was to do with your obsession with Wayne Rooney. You made a post saying that moyes didn't need to work on fitness yet you haven't been off the site for a year moaning about the weight of Anderson and Rooney. Nothing I said had anything to do with the glazers.

I don't really need to reply to this as Shappey summed it up perfectly down the page. I actually respected you kloot, I like some of your posts even though you are so biased towards a certain view and can never change it, I always think that at the end of the day we all want the same thing, success for the club we love. I am beginning to think you wouldn't mind up losing if it meant you were right.

I also agree with the post below this from Brendan, I think Rooney will leave this summer unless he is willing to sign a contract worse than the one he is on now, which I think is unlikely.

Exciting day in the history of our club, only the 2nd manager I've ever seen in charge of the club, I can't wait to see who he brings in.

Ps kloot, I don't really think I needed to point out to most regular readers that you are an attention seeker, they aren't stupid.

"I will keep on till we are rid of the money grabbing Cancer".
I AM KLOOT

I'd really like to know what these superhuman efforts are, that KLOOT is making to bring down the Glazer empire.

He is the worst type of supporter - the one that gives it all the moral and ethical diatribes against the rest of us, the big I Am, trying to belittle us.

But apart from bashing furiously at a keyboard, and maybe wearing your green and gold scarf and joining in a chorus or two of Love United, Hate the Glazers, what exactly is it that you are doing to get rid of them, that gives you the right to sit there and pass judgement on others?

You're a hypocrite, mate, and that's worse than any fan accepting the realities of our current situation.

What's everyone's problem with the Glazers. To all intensive purposes their not bad owners.

1. They don't get involved in footballing decisions.
2. They give you money when it's needed.
3. The debt is going down.

What's the problem now exactly?

J J

Yes we all no GDS, wot does make laugh is when he posts a post like that, if you scan the replies down the page u will see replies from KLOOT trying u to get a few followers onside with comments like ''u are the messi of banter'' lol very immature and desperate I must say.
CTR

It's like putting out a fishing line. I criticise the Glazer or People like GDS who have constantly supported their regime and it draws out persons like StevieK who criticise me for trying to get rid of people who are bleeding the club dry. That in Stevie's eyes makes me a hypocrite I don't see how and he says that is worse than fans who are happy to accept the Glazers. Tells you everything you need to know about StevieK.

06 Jul 2013 12:19:48
Careful Kloot you may fall of that horse, it is awfully high.

Again, what are you actually doing to get rid of them, apart from actually coming on here boring everyone?

Steviek,

I asked Kloot that very question many, many months ago yet never got an answer either! Funny that.