Manchester United Banter Archive July 06 2015

06 Jul 2015 22:19:44
Time to give up on ramos! He's clearly staying at Madrid. Forget him, keep de gea for a year! He'll play well and get shniederlin, otimendi and a rb sorted ASAP so they can have a pre season .Then concentrate on finding a striker and any other surprise deals for the rest of the window.

06 Jul 2015 23:00:45
i totally agree pep . i don't no why every year we need to chase some real Madrid players .

06 Jul 2015 23:16:30
Pep,

What makes you think ramos is staying at madrid? Nothing is pointing towards that at the minute.

06 Jul 2015 23:36:53
I like the stance we've taken with them! About time but a waste of time! Ramos was never on our list of targets so time to work on the list and maybe ramos can be done last minute if they get desperate for ddg. At least we can wait til last moment of window knowing we have valdes.

06 Jul 2015 23:37:32
Why didn't you just listen when I told you ages ago Pep? Just listen mate. Please.

06 Jul 2015 23:46:41
Porto bidding for Casillas suggests that he's off so Madrid must be confident of signing DDG. Nit sure what that means reference Ramos but if we allow them to sign DDG for less than £30 million and don't get Ramos how do we look after our so called no Ramos no DDG stance. Either way hope this starts the transfer wheel rolling and we can get our players in quickly

06 Jul 2015 23:55:00
Well his comment 'all is well' was the first thing that got me thinking, and his mums comments. I just don't think he does want to join us otherwise why wouldn't he go public with it? If he's said he wants to leave why not act like it. De gea is making it pretty clear he wants to go its obvious. Ramos seems happy where he is. Plus he's on their new kit promos although I know that means nothing. Just got the feeling it isn't going to happen. He's not 100% certain he want to leave

07 Jul 2015 00:18:15
Ramos will put pen to paper at Madrid.

07 Jul 2015 00:46:09
JMB my mother taught me not to listen to strangers and to think for myself

07 Jul 2015 01:39:10
Haha pep, de gea has said nothing about wanting to go just like ramos has said nothing about wanting to leave real, but it's obvious de gea wants to leave and obvious ramos doesn't. Makes perfect sense to me.

07 Jul 2015 01:40:06
Also de gea is on the videos for our tour promo.

07 Jul 2015 02:03:58
So in short our player wants to leave, theirs doesn't but would happily take the money we are offering if Madrid decide they want de gea badly enough. option 1- we keep de gea and don't get ramos
Option 2- we sell de gea and don't get ramos
Option 3- we swap de gea for ramos
Option 4- we give Madrid de gea plus money
Option 5- we stop messing about and get some players signed up so we can actually try and get a trophy next year!

I know what option I want

07 Jul 2015 09:35:50
Were did this so called no Ramos n9 De gea come from, is it just press or did i miss something and came from Utd?

07 Jul 2015 10:45:03
Jaimej

Where do you get No Ramos- no DDG deal. From the funny papers? Has anyone remotely connected to the club ever said that.

I suspect the DDG deal is based on Madrid paying the right fee and I suspect Ramos deal will be the same the other way round.

Are you guys looking at the negative side of everything to take a dump on the club.

06 Jul 2015 21:21:36
Rainfish, let's not talk about Pogba its been done to death. let's talk about the poor lad Ravel. Good honest boy who just had a bit of bad luck aye. Got anymore sob stories about him?

06 Jul 2015 22:49:39
Just misunderstood he was, mate :)

06 Jul 2015 20:30:49
For those of you who have been on this site for a long time, you will remember I predicted the appointment of that clueless idiot Moyes and the disasters that would follow. Then one of the editors got fed up with me winding people up so he banned me for a bit and I took myself away from this site, but now I am back and notice that some of my old rivals are still on here peddling their nonsense. Does anyone actually believe that we will win anything under LVG. He had one freak game against Spain in the World cup and for every other game the teams just sat back and the Dutch struggled (Does that sound familiar). Look who won the league last year boys. A man who thought he had the United job and cried when he didn't get it and yet was said by Sir Bobby not to be a United man. And all the time those money grabbing American leeches keep taking and taking. Anybody out there want to put me right and tell me why LVG will win the league?

06 Jul 2015 20:55:03
Beast, JMB, this is the standard you need to reach

06 Jul 2015 20:58:23
Hahahahaha welcome back

06 Jul 2015 21:03:34
Good to have you back Kloot.

06 Jul 2015 21:05:02
Lol is this really you?

06 Jul 2015 20:48:23
God I'm bored of you already.

06 Jul 2015 20:54:06
Ah shit

06 Jul 2015 20:56:46
Rivals? We all support the same team you tool. Pretty sure you were banned with good reason. Don't offend people and things will be fine.

06 Jul 2015 21:15:00
Just when this page was starting to get boring

06 Jul 2015 21:15:00
For anyone who doubted that Kloot is really back , I think the above is confirmation. Welcome back Kloot.
Sorry , I didn't even attempt to answer your question , did I?

06 Jul 2015 21:18:57
I was planning on leaving this alone for a while but how can I with KLOOT around! This is far too interesting now! KLOOT would you rather lvg or get klopp in?

06 Jul 2015 21:28:07
AJH and he isn't even warmed up yet. Someone tell the scousers.

06 Jul 2015 21:57:29
beast
like i said , you 2 are going to get on great

06 Jul 2015 22:51:19
Oh God, don't feed the ego, lads.

06 Jul 2015 22:55:57
Good God he really is back rotfl

06 Jul 2015 22:31:26
Ok kloot since you have awaken from your hibination here it goes,

You say you predicted that moyes would take over and i can prob gurantee everyone on here would have said the same also you say you predicted he would be a disaster yet most of the people on here thought the same so you thinking the same as about 70 percent of the people on here doesn't make you the all forseeing messiah.

You comparing the way holland played and asuming that because they won nothng we will automatically win nothing??

So because benitez has not won a leuage title since leaving valencia it must also mean madrid will now not win the title also??

all the other teams lvg he has been at he has introduced a brand of football that has won things? what's to say that won't happen at united?

Going off your theory we should actually win something then?

Chelsea won the title because they were simply the better team does that make every other team and manager clueless because jose turned chelsea into champions? NO!

you say the americans keep taking yet the past two season have backed both moyes amd LVG in the transfer market, and it seems that they are going to this year. again a comment not viable to your argumemt.

It seems you have nothing better to do with your time so as an alternative to ed002 not being on here anynore it looks like we going to get stuck with you again.

A little entertainment might help this page :)

Just be sure to be around when we do win something?

06 Jul 2015 22:34:12
we will win again but i don't think so it will be under lvg . lvg was bougth in to stabilize mam utd after wat moyes did to us i still believe we should gone to r manager . specially now klop is free i will go for him but before i sack lvg . i will find the missing person called Ed and sack him again he gone chasing ghost he wasted so much money on di maria last year when v should gone all out for Sanchez i sack him before lvg .

06 Jul 2015 22:31:08
Liverpool fan. I come in both peace and curiosity. Who or what is a Kloot? I'm intrigued?

07 Jul 2015 00:27:21
Lvg will win no league,his attitude is all wrong,his way or no way,plAying players out of position,pass the ball sideways,backwards,he is all about possession,some players need to play with a bit of freedom and to use their natural talent,he is too safe and stubborn to win the epl

07 Jul 2015 09:52:14
We won't win anything this year, maybe a cup, as LvG still rebuilding:

1. Last year existing players were too dense to take on board his philosophy about playing with their heads/multiple positions etc so that took a while to make it their second nature. He's getting there now as all those silly mistakes from the start of last season seem to have gone - they were given new challenges and they didn't have a clue, so they panicked or gave it away

2. He'll bring in more players who are more tactically aware/thoughtful (Schneiderlin/Sweini) and shore up the defence, hopefully with Otamendi and Coleman

3. Having a more secure midfield (hopefully) will not put so much pressure on ADM to track back and instead take on defenders/beat them for pace

4. Depay will hopefully do the same, though raw

5. Shaw will be fitter and a better player

6. Herrera will be wiser and have a bigger impact

7. Rooney will hopefully be freed up in attack

8. He'll have cover/partner for Carrick, as his absence cost us games

9. However, he will still need to bed any new players in, as well as educating the others into what he wants - so would take a cup this year as finishing touches put to the building job. He was exactly what we needed to rebuild after disasterous Moyes and hopefully he'll hand the near finished article over to someone like de Boer or Ancelotti (Giggs would need to prove his worth at another club first before becoming Utd manager)

However, if we make a decent start, then who knows what might happen.

07 Jul 2015 10:19:08
If I gave £300m to Harry Redknapp and the Moyes Utd squad he would have us winning things this season! But LVG is still rebuilding so don't expect anything? Jeeze, no other walk of life or football club even, would this return on investment be viable/allowed.

In saying that, if we play attacking football I don't much care about results as you could bore your way to the league like Chelsea did 2nd half of last season. I just don't see the point in boredom and winning nothing, when you have the tools to dominate.

My standards have lowered to such an extent that winning isn't crucial now, just being on the edge of my seat now and again will suffice at the minute!

07 Jul 2015 13:10:50
£300m still wouldn't guarantee you the league, as all have to settle etc (some will, Herrera, some won't, Di Maria) - unless you bought the whole Chelsea side, which know each other really well.

Money obviously helps but you can only buy instant success if you have enough talented cogs to instantly fit your system and beliefs.

06 Jul 2015 19:15:49
If you believe the press, we are playing hard ball with Real with De Gea, give us Ramos and we will sell De gea, surely it would make more sense to say, fine sell us Bale then!

06 Jul 2015 19:31:28
I think the current president loves bale. Its him who decides not rafa, and even if it was rafa, he would be too scared to sell someone like bale. He's a hoarder anyways,rafa that is.

06 Jul 2015 17:29:01
As a change from transfer gossip. Just watching United v scousers at OT from last year. Despite us winning, we looked terrible and laboured. Much as we did all season.
Hope we can play faster more aggressive football this coming season. Also we gave the ball away lots and hoofed it up at every opportunity. Terrible to watch.
So it will be interesting to see which players are bought and if lvg actually recognises the tempo has to be upped.

06 Jul 2015 19:56:17
Hes already bought depay which indicates he's going for a higher tempo and hopefully we can get a striker with pace to burn because i think we already have the power but need someone who can break the back line

06 Jul 2015 17:03:57
Apparently Callum Gribbin has trained with the 1st team.

Anybody know more about him?

06 Jul 2015 17:10:50
Immensely talented. But attitude problems. I am not sure but he's threatened to leave for Liverpool once.

06 Jul 2015 17:10:57
Gribbin Grabbin his chance :P

07 Jul 2015 00:23:34
IMBS, I thought he just had an offer from them? I didn't know he threatened to leave!! However I watched him at the milk cup and he looked incredible.

07 Jul 2015 08:00:47
Caolan
Like i said, I'm not sure

06 Jul 2015 16:11:54
Southampton are off to Austria i think tomorrow, will be interesting to see if Schneiderlin goes with them, maybe that's why he is ill today, gives him an excuse not to travel

06 Jul 2015 15:43:25
Angelo Henriquez has just completed his move to Dynamo Zagreb. Looks like we're either keeping Javier or we definitely need a new striker before next year

With RvP looking unable to cope with LvG's training schedule, and Wilson probably going out on loan I can only assume we have something simmering in the background. Here's hoping Madrid switch Ronaldo to the middle as rumoured and play ball with Benzema

06 Jul 2015 15:24:20
Apparently Schneiderlin misses his first pre season training . Something is cooking up :)

06 Jul 2015 15:42:01
Koeman also said that we made a bid 2 weeks ago which wasn't accepted and haven't been back with another offer since. Why are we messing about over a few million that's what we pay ADM a month for Christ sake. Get it done before we miss out and end up with Strootman on deadline day

06 Jul 2015 15:48:22
Schneiderlin, Schneiderlin, does whatever a Sneijder can!

06 Jul 2015 16:07:49
No danny
A Sneijder can't sign for united.

06 Jul 2015 16:21:35
That's why we should now on call him Spiderlin . Throw the "Sneijder" out

06 Jul 2015 16:35:06
What about W Sneijder????

06 Jul 2015 13:51:51
I have been with this site for a long time (even though not posted much), so here is a piece of info for the new posters about Kloot ( if this is the real kloot and allegedly RFT before that). Most of you will not like what he says and there will be lot of clash between your opinions. Very few things please him ( I don't remember anything). There are things he believes which may just astonish you and there is no point in arguing with him over these things because that just won't change his mindset. There will be times when you will agree with him in an arguement and might think he and you are a match made in heaven, do not believe it for one second, he might turn against you for some other reason and just rip you to shreds. Finally are you from Manchester?
People had different opinions about him but I always thought of him as a true United fan who usually gets into trouble for loving the club too much. And those discussions between the guys kloot, Sydney, gan ngiak, ed 007, etc ( I can't remember many names) were truly amazing.

06 Jul 2015 14:41:32
RFT stood for RainFishTrombone if I remember correctly.

06 Jul 2015 14:47:11
One thing I remember KLOOT predicting was David Moyes to take over after Fergie. Because Fergie wouldn't want someone who could do better than him, because of his big ego.

Part of this was right of Moyes being appointed however the SAF maybe wasn't needed and maybe uncalled for. But fair play to him predicting it.

06 Jul 2015 15:22:19
You are right MB.
Weggy he did say that and every time I used to see Moyes failing, I used to remember what Kloot said about SAF.

06 Jul 2015 20:21:52
Boys its good to be back and ready to put the world to rights

06 Jul 2015 13:42:34
Here here. Nobody wants Strootman because of some of his niggling injuries. Yet we carry a whole broken squad that resembles the most vulnerable china from China. Strootman is an EPL type player. Now having given Falcao an EPL internship on his resume with a 250k payment and caressing him through his injury he is going to (hopefully not) bang the net next season with a distinct possibility of hammering it at OT. That will bring a good chuckle here. Strootman is class, period. Van Gaal type player suited to the EPL with a good engine on him. Not worth the risk? I don't think so.
PS: What a player Luka Modric is! He is my favorite midfield player. We should have got him while he was at Tottenham and paid a record fee if that was needed. Well one of those could have beens! Hopefully Schneiderlin gets signed.

06 Jul 2015 13:50:44
i don't want him because i don't think he is that good .
and that was before he had the best part of 2 year out with an injury

06 Jul 2015 14:04:37
I have watched him several times and he has failed to impress me every time . He is an average player for me.

06 Jul 2015 14:05:52
Putting aside his ability, which I think you may be just overestimating a smidgen.

The lad has played 6 games since March 2014. That's hardly the result of niggling injuries. He had a major injury in 2014, a tear in the anterior cruciate ligament of his left knee, and this injury led to further complications and key-hole surgery in the same knee after a few games back. That's the type of injury that can drastically change a career. And we should know from Hargreaves, that he may never be the same player again.

So that's some top class logic right there - we had the most injury prone squad in the league last season, so let's buy a player who has spent the last 16 months primarily on the treatment table for a potentially career threatening injury.

06 Jul 2015 14:29:14
i have watched him a lot srestha just cause he don't get credit for wat he do same like carrick untill few season back none gave carrick credit

06 Jul 2015 14:41:09
Dwill credit was given when it was due.

06 Jul 2015 15:31:09
May be i happened to watch the odd games Dwill but in every game i watched , he was ran out by the opposition and frequently was caught out of position.

06 Jul 2015 12:48:36
Do we know if that was kloot yesterday are a looky likey .

06 Jul 2015 13:05:43
Think one of the Eds said it was his account.

06 Jul 2015 14:10:14
Really do believe with the right development Januzaj could be as good as giggsy

06 Jul 2015 15:27:47
One way to change the subject Nathaniel :-)

06 Jul 2015 15:39:02
Hahaha Brendan, you know it was meant for the other post!

06 Jul 2015 09:51:46
Not totally United related, but you have to take your hat off to Mark Hughes at Stoke. If they sign Shaqiri that has to be the best signing from anyone outside of the top 4, especially for a mid table team - I doubt even a mid table team like Liverpool could tempt him - well done Sir.

{Ed001's Note - do you really rate Shaqiri? By the way he has been trying to find someone else to sign him, which is what has held up the deal. So not really that great or tempting a signing for Hughes, he will join them as there is little option.}

06 Jul 2015 10:54:39
Ed001 is bang on the money. Couldn't do it at Bayern or even Inter. Lad has a big attitude problem and will only go to Stoke if he has no other option.

06 Jul 2015 11:03:45
He looks like an overinflated balloon midget every time I see him.

06 Jul 2015 11:27:45
Shaqiri, Krkic, Diouf, Walters and even Crouch . That looks like a solid attack for a mid table team.

06 Jul 2015 13:22:07
I knew him when I lived in Basel, big ego, really thought he was something else. but no doubting his ability