Manchester United Banter Archive May 06 2015

 

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06 May 2015 21:22:19
Let's forget who we support or who we want to buy and bow our heads in awe at this astonishing game of football what an absolute pleasure to watch.

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06 May 2015 21:29:59
Very true, Messi is magic.

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06 May 2015 21:43:07
I was just about to post something similar, being a united fan I long to be team ronaldo but that. That was unreal! Excellent game.

Whilst I'm at it just wanted to mention how much I'm enjoying all the eds participation on the page at the moment.

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06 May 2015 21:45:24
against the best keeper in the world none the less!!!

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06 May 2015 22:14:24
Messi is past it. He peaked too soon and is no longer the player he was. It has been mentioned several times on here, get with it lads!

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07 May 2015 06:41:30
Well I picked them to win it all back in jan/feb and looks like they are in the Final.

Interesting fact if real make it and Baca win it. They have beaten the English champions, French champions, German Champions and Spanish champions along the way. No one can say they had the luck of the draw as they have probably drawn the hardest game in every round. The from 3 is unstoppable and one or 2 on any given night will tear a team apart.

This is very good Bayern team that got turned over.

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07 May 2015 08:01:46
Well picked GCU. I said Bayern from the start as well but I can't see them overturning that 3-0 deficit but with pep at the helm anything can happen.

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07 May 2015 08:08:51
Madrid ain't spanish champions :)

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07 May 2015 08:28:21
Oh yeah sorry forgot i guess defending CL.

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07 May 2015 08:31:28
JMB

I watch almost all the Barca games and they looked terrible early in the season but suddenly could see the front 3 clicking. It reminded me of the 99 season when York and cole just clicked and we looked like we could rip any team.

They are awesome to watch and make up for some of my frustration watching some of our games :))

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{Ed025's Note - they are a good team GCU, but to be honest i find it all a bit boring at times, give me the prem any day mate, in the good old days when tackles were allowed they would not have lived with the likes of leeds utd of the 70,s.. :)

07 May 2015 10:26:55
I think Luis Suarez has added a lot to their play mate. The fact he was out for three months before he came on the scene and bedded in effortlessly is a testament to how good those players are. If Suarez can slot in easily after being banned for 3 months at a new club then no excuses for players like ADM can be made in my book.

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07 May 2015 10:58:28
Ed025

I disagree and love how they ping the ball around and have just unbelievable players across the pitch. Unlike us they can go from 2nd gear to 5th gear in a matter of seconds with their front 3.

I have not seen anything like it in for god knows how many years and doubt we will see anything like it for many years to come. Make no mistake their front 3 are exceptional and their unselfishness is a credit as they work for each other, unlike real which seems each man to his own or everyone must make CR07 happy.

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{Ed025's Note - i get that GCU, but the bayern side of 2 years ago who smashed them 8-0 in the CL played the type of football i love, direct fast precise attacking football without the tikka takka boring stuff which it seems all the EPL teams seem to be adopting these days mate..

06 May 2015 20:46:08
Tonights game shows the gulf between Pep and LVG, whilst Pep got it wrong initially he was brave and went for it and then changed it when he saw it wasn't working. LVG sits on the bench and then moans after the game that he knew it was going to fail watching the warm up. I think that's my biggest complaint with LVG is his inability or stubbornness to adapt to an evolving game its as if he thinks doing so will tarnish his philosophy.

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06 May 2015 21:43:21
For God's sake can't we just enjoy the game it has nothing to do with United or our manager.

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06 May 2015 21:48:33
Are team aren't even playing yet lvg gets a swipe yet again.

It's quite funny now!

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06 May 2015 21:55:15
Tonight's game shows the gulf between having Messi in your team and not having Messi in your team

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06 May 2015 22:19:55
Having Messi in your team certainly is a bonus. He scored two amazing goals, but I think the whole barca team played well. Saying the win was purely down to Messi is a little harsh.

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06 May 2015 22:46:30
imagine if LvG had used those tactics? He'd be called tactically inept for attacking a team so much who can kill you on the counter.

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06 May 2015 23:05:42
Not a one man show Huggy , but the Barca team had started to run out of ideas before Messi stepped up to the plate

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06 May 2015 22:55:39
Does anyone think that Chelsea are as good as Bayern, let alone Barcelona? Are Suarez, Neymar and Messi the best forward line ever anywhere?

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06 May 2015 22:56:07
Peps bayern did get beat though didn't they, was it three nil , did he change it before or after

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06 May 2015 23:42:19
Fair play pep did get beat 3 - 0 against barca with one of the best players ever to grace the field scoring 2 worldies. Didn't we ship 3 against an awful Evwrton hardly comparable.

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07 May 2015 00:11:27
If it's not comparable why the hell are you comparing them?

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07 May 2015 06:45:09
We are a long way behind the Elite of Europe but so is the entire premiere league including Chelsea. Interesting rebirth for Italian Football with 2 teams in the semi's of Europa league and Juventus pushing to get the final of CL.

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07 May 2015 08:03:03
The EPL is and has been on the slide for years now mate. The bigwigs need to get their houses in order.

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07 May 2015 10:50:11
Funny really to think imagine that was us last night we'd have posts bemoaning playing defenders in midfield, how changing tactics cost us 3 goals etc etc but Pep gets praised haha it really is funny to sit back and watch the hypocrisy

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06 May 2015 20:39:48
Ignoring the fee we have to pay and his Wages what are people's views on Falcao staying next year.
Part of me says he would never work, the other part thinks with a healthy off season LVG couldget him fitting into how we want to play!

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{Ed025's Note - get shut of him..total waste of space imo..

06 May 2015 18:35:54
I read down the page that we are certain to buy an "adidas icon "ie Bale as a statement to the rest but although i agree with a possible move for Bale i think the club and adidas would make more of a global impact making a certain Mr David Beckham ( soon to be sir) a club ambassador now that his MLS dream seems to have stalled

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06 May 2015 19:13:52
I think this whole 'United want to sign an Adidas player' is absolute rubbish. Football just doesn't work like that.

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{Ed025's Note - your right mate..

06 May 2015 19:14:59
I don't really understand the claims for beckham to be knighted, services to football? Only players who get it are usually World Cup winners. Then again I'm not a massive fan of the whole royal family.

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{Ed025's Note - its a load of crap anon...you can get one for farting nowadays..

06 May 2015 20:00:49
I think Beckham deserves it considering everything he has done promoting football worldwide and all the work with the Olympics. Granted a knighthood isn't what it used to be, but Beckham is a superb ambassador for fooball and England as a whole.

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{Ed025's Note - he is a good role model and ambassador beast, but surely a knighthood is going a bit far..well for me anyway mate..

06 May 2015 20:42:09
We should take advantage of Beckham and use him how Madrid used to roll out Zidane to court potential signings. I think it could only benefit us if we had the biggest icon in the World working for our club and trying to encourage potential signings. Becks loves the club and would be a great ambassador to push our brand on and off the pitch

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{Ed025's Note - he would mate..

06 May 2015 18:25:09
God I hope we get champions league football, I don't care about the lure for players it brings or about the finance. I just miss going to watch the lads play and put a shift in on a Wednesday night against the best teams in Europe

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06 May 2015 14:58:05
Hi Eds

Dont post much but read site any time I can Just wondering what are the chances of us signing Coleman from Everton think he is perfect for us but I know price would be high surely we could tempt them to sell with cash and some of our squad players ie Evans Rafael etc, for me he is the best rb in English football.

Thanking You
Damian M

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{Ed025's Note - the price for coleman would be £30m damian...and if you had evans and rafael as part of the deal...it would be £31m..

06 May 2015 15:57:59
Not sure if Coleman could cut the mustard at United

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{Ed025's Note - hes hot stuff danny..

06 May 2015 16:04:53
Much prefer if we signed Abdoulaye Bamba, he's got all the bits we're looking for

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06 May 2015 16:35:28
Isn't Coleman supposed to be a sulker? he's not been great this season imo although would be a huge improvement on Valencia

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06 May 2015 16:38:56
I'd prefer Clyne.

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06 May 2015 16:43:00
DD, I would imagine like most people where he comes from, he is extremely laid back, to the point if you were the most famous person in the world and met them, they wouldn't give two sh*ts.

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06 May 2015 18:31:08
I agree Fresh much prefer Clyne er wait you talk rubbish so that means er I wait changed my mind don't like Clyne at all lol.

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06 May 2015 15:26:08
Would it be a big deal if de gea left if we could get 30m for him and buy begovic leno or
handanovic because personally in the months and years ahead i hope to have a defence where the goalkeeper isn't needed as often

mufc689908

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06 May 2015 15:42:33
Hopefully we can get a new deal done so if he does go any time soon we can get much more than £30m for him, can't see him staying for long run though but I'd want another top quality keeper to replace him, if we want to challenge for titles we can't be downgrading.

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06 May 2015 15:51:39
A new deal would be much better for us. Gives us another year and more leverage with Madrid. And I'm far more worried about us selling him and bringing in Krul. Hopefully Casillas's intention to let his contract run down will mean that Madrid will hold off on bringing in De Gea for another year or two out of fear that it would unsettle the dressing room.

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06 May 2015 15:57:42
I'd love lloris but he seems PSG bound, so Handanovic would probably be my next option.

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06 May 2015 16:09:35
I'd prefer Begovic over Krul, he's by far Stoke's best player.

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06 May 2015 19:06:33
Anyone but begovic. I like the athletico Madrid goalkeeper. Very good on crosses and he kept Real at bay during their recent encounters.

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06 May 2015 19:23:24
There is a certain gk with pl experience that I would target above all others if Chelsea would let him sign for us.

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{Ed025's Note - jamal blackman?.. :)

06 May 2015 21:31:49
Prefer Lloris to all of the ones mentioned.

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06 May 2015 12:34:36
Carvalho at Sporting is the ideal replacement for Carrick .It makes you wonder if we have first dabs on him if he does move with Nani going back there on loan this season. i did read a comment from Ronaldo about him bigging up United to Carvalho so l wonder if contact has already been made .PUMPKINS !!!!!

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06 May 2015 12:57:52
You might be right, but my opinion is apparently nonsense.

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06 May 2015 13:29:31
Don't bite Fresh

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06 May 2015 14:12:48
The Nani loan was to do with rojo not William

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06 May 2015 14:12:55
Who said your opinion was nonsense?

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06 May 2015 15:28:55
Sometimes you desperately want to bite by the pure rudeness, and look down the page JMB.

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06 May 2015 15:30:44
Initial post by detroit red devil in case you were interested.

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06 May 2015 08:21:32
Hello to all. A very up and down season ain't it but let's hope it's on the up for last few games and 4th spot is ours.

The jury is out with some of you over LVG and I understand why however there were only a few genuine candidates for the role when SAF vacated it and he was definitely one of them given past glories (Mourinho, Guardiola, Ancelotti having the right CV and prob adding Klopp and Simeone to that now too). Unlike Moyes who was never the right man (never won anything) LVG I feel will get it right eventually.

Whilst we have looked decidedly shaky in some performances we've had some big performances too and I think the game plan is for LVG to reside with us for say 3 years max then Giggs to take over. In that context, and on the back of LVG having the right credentials he should be given time.

I wanted to ask the Eds and learned posters about FFP though and specifically our wage 'power' and that of other Prem rivals and particular Chelsea. It's well reported that Bale could be on his way out of Real and in all fairness the lad will come out with his head held high being a Champs League winner, possibly twice. Both United and Chelsea could match the £90m+ it would take to get him when you consider player swaps also but I'm keen to understand how much we could blow Chelsea out of the water with in terms of wages. I understand there's an FFP element to wages too so whilst we may have deeper pockets than most thee has to be a maximum, theoretical or actual we can commit too. So for example if Chelsea could offer a max £250k a week could we gazzump it to £350k?

I suspect we can. Whether we want to or will is a different matter though we have clearly turned a very large corner with regard to 'value in the market'.

Thoughts welcome gentlemen and all too rare ladies.

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{Ed001's Note - it simply doesn't work like that with regards to wages.}

06 May 2015 12:14:05
I too believe van gaal WILL get it right, but it's going to take time? And a few £££'s is have to be spent? Sir Alex is a true great in all he achieved at Utd and we, as fans will always remember that! Here comes the but! Let's not forget though for the latter years he didn't do anything for the club ie as in going forward? Moyes never had a chance because he to start again, just as van gaal is? But the difference comes with experience? LVG, has it in abundance, Moyes, nothing? Moyes was set up to fail because purely lack of experience! Now us, as fans are starting to stand up to the realisation of the task in hand because we are not used to not winning every game as it has been for so many years, but make no mistake we will be back, better, stronger than ever!!

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06 May 2015 12:21:49
But Ronnie Van Gaal is too old. Moyes was a younger manager!

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06 May 2015 13:06:39
You're forgetting what country Holland borders JMB.

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06 May 2015 13:21:54
Ah Danny I now see the error of my ways!

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06 May 2015 13:25:48
Haha you guys are horrible, funny, but horrible????!!

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06 May 2015 15:45:10
I heard of a young player from Belgium for Ronnie the other day. Cuts inside when you don't expect, gets in the way when needed. Goes by the name of Geordie Van Driver.

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06 May 2015 10:40:07
M.E.N have reported we are looking at Laporte (I know that means chuff all in reality). Fantastic left footed CB, hopefully there is some substance to it. Would love to see a Laporte Stones CB partnership at United.

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{Ed025's Note - stones will not be going anywhere rews..

06 May 2015 10:53:28
Laporte will hold out for a move to Barca in 2016. Good player though.

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06 May 2015 11:29:05
025 I can but dream. I would love to see a reassurance built on young British players.

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06 May 2015 11:38:16
Or even a resurgence

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06 May 2015 08:32:55
Hi Lads,

Does Anyone know if Rothwell will get a chance Pre-Season ?

from all the 21's I've watched I think he is up there, granted most of the time it's highlights but he looks like a good solid player.

Would be Perfect to let him join the 1st team squad and let him come on the tour and then send him to a championship team on loan.

Anyone any more info on him ?

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06 May 2015 08:19:30
Vidal for me needs to be a summer target, the ideal replacement for carrick and would be a huge step up. I may be playing fantasy football here but if we could get Vidal, gundogan, depay, a rb (Gonna say Clyne as I can't think of any more) and a cb preferably hummels or otamendi then we would have a damn good team. All them would start and I would stick with Rooney/rvp as the lone striker for one more season.

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06 May 2015 09:49:58
For some reason, I don't think Vidal, looking at his style of play, is a replacement for Carrick, but rather someone that will play alongside Carrick.

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06 May 2015 10:41:48
I don't mean like for like replacement. But him sitting behind Herrera and gundogan in a 3 man midfield is a really strong line up

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06 May 2015 07:27:06
Having a read through some shocking posts from earlier. Gareth Bale has a bad game and is no longer a world class player, instead just a 'shadow of his former self'. Is this for real?

The guy was awesome last year, has had his moments this year and has been constantly hounded and insulted by the Madrid fans and the media as a scapegoat for their season so far. All this and the lad still has the bottle to go out and give his all even when things aren't going well.

Angel Di Maria can't pass the ball five yards and has done very little in a United shirt. He gets the backing of the majority of fans when he gets on the pitch and constantly dissappoints. Yet excuses are made about settling in and he needs another pre-season under his belt. What about Bale? Did he need a year to settle?

Makes excuses all you want Di Maria couldn't lace Bales boots and Bale would be the best player in the league if we got him. Simple as that.

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06 May 2015 08:33:14
Agreed, I was listening to Steven Reid on the radio last night and he said that Bale was by far the most difficult player that he had faced. He said that every time he got the ball he would run at you and drive you back which is much harder to defend against than players who cut inside all the time like Young.

If there is any chance of bale, even for close to 100 million he is too good to miss out on.

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06 May 2015 08:43:34
People also seem to forget he has just returned from injury and spent the 1st half (only watched the 1st half so not sure about the 2nd) playing up top in an unfamiliar position.

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06 May 2015 09:17:25
@JMB

I agree with you that the criticism is a bit ridiculous. But I don't think that is the issue.

The issue for me is his price tag and I don't think he justifies that. Also there is no guarantee that he will be the best player in the league. Hazard has been very good this year and will only get better, and if Jose let's his team play a more attacking game, hazard will definitely go to new heights.

Bale will cost 80mil+ I think. For that kind of money we could buy Vidal, naingolan and depay. That would not only fix our midfield for good but also mean we sign a top young player with potential.

Then there is the issue of the way Van Gaal has had us playing. The obsession with possession playing style. Bale is not at all suited for that. Have we overpayed for a player who does not fit a slow possession based style and whose game is based on dribbling the ball and taking risks? Oh wait, we have and he is struggling at the moment.

If we can sign all our targets AND bale then I'm all for it but I don't think that will happen. We may at least need to move di maria or mata on for that.

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06 May 2015 09:32:09
JMB,

You know what fans are like on here mate, one good game and a player is the best in the world, one bad game and he should retire immediately as he's 'lost it'. Some of the posts surprised me, it is as if these people haven't seen Bale play all season and just watched because he was on TV and as he didn't have a good game he is rubbish now. Kind of opposite MOTD fever, I am just glad we have scouts who watch players rather than people on here who only watch players if they are on ITV.

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06 May 2015 09:48:49
His last number of games he has been awfull,proably not his fault,what's going on over there might be the reason,close to 100 mil. For him,no way,I'd take him but not for that kind of money,depay and Vidal for me,we might as well go to Madrid with blank cheques

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06 May 2015 10:09:46
Redfaith - the thing is players like Depay, Vidal and Naingogglan are all well and good but they aren't proven in the PL and may be Klebersons or Verons. Gareth Bale was electric in England and has continued that form in the CL and in Spain. The lad is also almost single handedly leading Wales to the Euros.

I understand your reservations about the price but that is the modern market and if Di Maria is a £60millon player then let's be honest Bale is a bargain at £80million.

I also agree that Hazard is a fine player, a special player but does he bring as much to the table as Bale? Yes and no. I think Hazard is more adaptable and can play more technical and intricate football. But Bale if utilised correctly is an absolute gun and I would put my morgage on it he pulls up trees in a United shirt next season if we get him. It's upto the manager to play to his strengths so that he can explode into life.

GDS - I cannot agree more mate. It's like the bigger you get the harder folk want you fall. Short memories and day dreamers we have on here sometimes.

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06 May 2015 10:29:03
I've seen him play a lot this season,since the turn of the year he hasn't done anything,20 goals 15 assits,is that worth his price tag,ronaldo is ahead of him by miles,maybe you can only have one master in a team,

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06 May 2015 10:30:34
redfaith
makes a very good point , would bale (a player i rate ) fit with lvg slow possession based football

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06 May 2015 10:56:32
Leahy12 for a player having a poor season as you put it, 20 goals and 15 assists are solid numbers!

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06 May 2015 11:19:37
Solid numbers for that kind of money

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06 May 2015 11:21:35
@JMB

Vidal is a player who has performed in the bundesliga, performed in the UCL, performed in the world cup and has bossed the serie A. I have absolutely no doubt that he will be a success in the EPL. Him and Naingolan are the exact kind of players that fit right into the EPL. Strong, tough tacklers, box to box midfielders with lots of energy.

Depay is a typical United signing. Up and coming young player who is a year or two away from his peak.

I was merely using these three as an example anyway to show just how much we can improve the team and whom we can buy with the money bale would cost. It was only meant to emphasize the fact that he is way overpriced.

We overpayed for Di Maria, we shouldn't make that mistake again. Bale isn't a Ronaldo or Messi.

I disagree on Hazard. I think he can do everything that Bale does and more. I don't doubt that if the team is set up the right way, both Di Maria and Bale would succeed. But neither of them justify their price tags or fit into the current system and we should strengthen other areas first before looking at Bale.

Nobody else would be willing to pay that much for Bale I think, and that does say something.

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06 May 2015 11:24:27
Bale is top draw! It's not even up for debate. It's fact. And if there's any chance of signing him we should do it

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06 May 2015 12:06:06
Redfaith - I am not saying Vidal isn't a very good player because he is. If he is kept injury free then he is a great player in the middle of the pitch but then again Veron was one of the best in the world when we signed him but he floundered in the EPL. I am not saying that will happen to Vidal but with Bale you know your getting proven EPL quality. Same goes for Naingogglan, who by all accounts I have never heard of until the last few months. Good players? Yes. A tier below Bale's level? Yes.

Depay, again like the others is a 50/50. He could prove to be exceptional such as Ronaldo, he could prove to be decent such as Nani and he could prove to be shocking such as Anderson. With young talented players at a high cost it is always going to be a little bit of a lottery. The one thing I will say is if LVG tries to remove Depay's natural game and flair on the ball by guiding him like Januzaj (two touches, three seconds on the ball) then that could be detrimental to Depay's development.

I disagree with you on the Hazard point. I think both have their strengths and weaknesses. Hazard makes the game tick and Bale is more of a final product player. If we get Bale he will out score and assist Hazard next season but Hazard will see more of the ball. I also think plenty of teams would pay the money for Bale. Yes he is expensive but his endorsements and name make money as well as other commercial ventures.

If you want to be the best then you've got to sign the best.

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06 May 2015 12:35:49
Roy keane was at the game last and himself and scholes said Madrid played with 10 players,now surely them 2 honest boys are a better judge of a player than us,but wait people slate them for being honest.

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06 May 2015 13:09:30
So because he had one bad game last night he is now useless? Behave.

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06 May 2015 13:25:12
Bale over DiMaria any day for me. More pace, strength, better with his head, good freekick and works hard.

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06 May 2015 14:58:30
No since the turn of the year he has been bad

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06 May 2015 18:06:55
Di Maria gets the backing of the majority of fans?? people generally slate him these days as far as I can tell. Give him more than 1 season!!

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06 May 2015 18:19:33
in reply to those that are not sure how Bale would fit into a LVG side of pointless midfield possession. i'm hoping he is used like Robben was for Holland by LVG maybe it would force him to tweak his philosophy to actually troubling teams and getting in behind them. He is the player that we need how much we need strengthening at the back without goals we cannot win games and Bale is the best potentially available player out there to do that for us.

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06 May 2015 19:16:54
Up to recently, I wanted to give ADM another season. But recent performances have changed my mind completely. The guy can't pass, can't dribble, can't cross, can't beat his man.
Bale is a fantastic player and if we can get him here, then we must do all we can to make it happen.
One final word on ADM, he doesn't look like he wants to be here, so get rid while PSG still want him and get verrati in part exchange.

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07 May 2015 09:12:51
I think we would be mad to waste our time on Bale and will turn our summer transfer window into a farce again as the player clearly does not want the change.

My issue with pushing a deal for bale is it potentially freezes a lot of other deals given the financial impact of what would would be require to get him and watching other targets end up going to other clubs and we end up not getting him and then having to scramble to sign option 3 or 4.

We need a number of players for various positions and would be better off getting on with that than spending the entire summer chasing rainbows.

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07 May 2015 09:16:33
Forgot to add don't want to get stung by Madrid on another deal like they did to us with ADM. You can built championship winning sides by buying well and talent without getting overpaying for one player.

All the players everyone talks about were valuable for a fraction of the cost a couple of years ago, we just have bought poorly for a number of years and the academy is yet to produce a bonafide star and wilson and the rest have potential but a long way away from being the saviour.

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{Ed025's Note - fair points them GCU mate..

06 May 2015 00:39:56
Ed.It's nearly transfer time again,the last couple of years we have paid over the odds got burnt if you like,are we panicking in the transfer windows,my question is,Woodward is he clever enough,shruid enough for the job,all the scouts we have,directors,boardrooms,we must have a plan in place,I know the players agents don't help,do the glazers have to approve our transfers,have we too many chiefs not enough Indians,

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{Ed007's Note - I don't know enough about how Utd operate in the transfer market but something's honking. As someone who follows Utd unlike you guys who are fans I'd blame Woodward, if you're walking into transfer negotiations with Utd's reputation and more importantly their financial clout you should be signings players who are top drawer and will hit the ground running. Daley Blind should be playing for a team like Newcastle or Aston Villa, the least said about ADM the better and Luke Shaw has been more a Look It's Shaw! for one reason or another, I blame the manager for that one but the whole scenario is bizarre.
This summer is crucial in that Utd need to get it right, guys like Ashley Young and Valencia simply aren't good enough, no matter what excuses people want to make, you can add Smalling, Jones, and as for Fellaini (swear) me!! It's like watching Everton when big Duncan Disorderly was playing for them.
I have a worry that Utd is going down the Galacticos road and buying what's available as long as the £ getting mentioned appeases the fans.
How many players do you think Utd need to win the EPL?
I'd say 5-6.. Or the CL? 6-7, depending on Carrick...
De Gea, Rojo, Shaw, Carrick, Mata, Herrera and Rooney are probably the only players from the 1st team squad I'd keep except for youngsters who you lot will know more about than me. The rest I just don't see any long term future at Old Trafford for.
I spoke about 3 players at Celtic earlier with Caolan, van Dijk, Biton and Johansen and even though I'll admit I'm biased I think all 3 of them would offer more to Utd right now than what's there, in my opinion there's a lot players at Utd that wouldn't get in the Celtic team right now. I think I got a liitle bit sidetracked there buddy, sorry about that. It' probably them all to blame lol #UntilRonnyIWasNeverHappy

06 May 2015 07:00:05
@Ed007

I don't see how Ed Woodward can be blamed. He doesn't choose which players to buy, which to keep and which to let go. That is done by the manager and the coaching staff. Woodward would be responsible for the money side of things. He was dealing in a market last year where he had to get players without having Champions League football to offer.

One thing is for sure, that unlike before, we don't lose out on players because of money now.

The problem has been with poor identification of targets I think. Blind is not good enough to play for us IMO. He tries his best but he simply doesn't have the pace or the positional discipline. I won't judge shaw yet, just been an injury plagued season for him. Jones has been poor IMO, young no matter what his form is, still isn't a man united quality player IMO and neither is fellaini. Valencia should have been let go long back.

I disagree on Smalling, he has improved and will be a good player I think.

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06 May 2015 07:21:15
Bond you had me nodding my head in agreement until the last paragraph. The Celtic boys you have mentioned would not get near our team at the minute (maybe Van Dijk but then again he may be another Boumsong) and to say that our players (even the lesser performers) wouldn't be world beaters in the current Celtic team is ludicrous. I hope your just joking mate, in fact the more I re read it I see you are joking.

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{Ed007's Note - I'd take van Dijk over Smalling any day, a fit Biton is better than the the perma-injured and much missed Carrick and is a better DM than Blind, because of him we haven't missed Wanyama, and I'd take Johansen every time over the over rated and over-priced Di Maria or muck like Ashley Young.}

06 May 2015 09:44:46
Ed , no offence but saying that a lot of United's squad wouldn't make the Celtic team is pushing it a lot . The most average player in United's squad would still be a level above most of what Celtic have imo and I've watched Celtic regularly enough this season . There's no comparison between playing against Inverness , St. Mirren etc and even the bottom teams in the pl

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{Ed007's Note - As you say that's your opinion, mine is different. How many SPFL games have you watched this season?}

06 May 2015 09:45:28
Hi 007. I know this isn't United related, but I would like to ask your opinion about Ronny Delia. I am from Norway, so that's why i'm curious. I could ask you specific questions, but i'm all for your wide opinion as a Celtic supporter :)

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{Ed007's Note - The guy's been a breath of fresh air at Celtic and in Scottish football. #UntilRonnyIWasNeerHappy

06 May 2015 10:04:39
Bond, are we cranky today? I think you are being unfair to Blind. In an ideal utd team, Fellaini can be a team player but not a regular starter, he'd be someone you throw in to mix thing up, a plan C sort of guy. Having said that, you are probably right about the major overhauling being needed to catch up with the European Elites.

On a Celtic note, I think if celtic was in the championship this season, they'd not get promotion to the EPL (Running for cover.)

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{Ed007's Note - If Utd were playing in the SPFL they'd be lucky to finish 2nd, I'd like to see flyweights powderpuffs like Di Maria, Smalling and Ashley Young getting physically bullied and harassed for 90 mins. A also don't think Utd would have won La Liga (3rd4th) or the Bundesliga (5th/6th at best) or even the French League, Utd would also have struggled to win the English Championship as well. so I don't really see what point you're making.}

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06 May 2015 14:11:32
Wow , how good must Legia Warsaw be then ?

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{Ed007's Note - Inter Milan put us out of Europe, do keep up pfft.}

06 May 2015 14:22:42
ED007 you are on another planet today mate lol.

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{Ed007's Note - WOW!! What a well explained point! This must be a contender for Post of the Day.}

06 May 2015 14:25:29
Good think i ran for cover :)

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{Ed007's Note - So that'll be you haven't watched much if any and are basing your argument on the generic let's slag every league that's not propped up by Sly money. Football snobbery is such an ugly trait.}

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06 May 2015 15:29:44
would agree about blind ,most average first team player we have bought in a long time

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{Ed025's Note - i think you are bigging him up calling him average jred..

06 May 2015 16:12:20
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06 May 2015 16:20:55
Let's stop the Blind bashing, he's not top quality but earlier on this season he had quite a few solid performances in midfield for us controlling the entire game but I suppose a lot of United fans on here forget things like that and the ed's who don't support United wouldn't be interested. He's got a great attitude and you don't get selected to play for the Dutch national team for being useless. Better than bloody Cleverley and Anderson put together!!

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06 May 2015 16:38:22
ozwald
i would really disagree with that .
im not a fan of cleverly but i would have him before blind

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06 May 2015 23:04:01
Wasn't a point mate, it was a statement.

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05 May 2015 23:53:09
After tonights showing with madrids keeper I can only see them wanting de gea more but it could work to our advantage with them giving us bale plus cash he looks lost and a shadow of what he was

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{Ed025's Note - any cash differential will be going to madrid daz..

06 May 2015 06:46:34
Maybe because bale might have been rushed in from a calf injury straight into a CL semi

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