Manchester United Banter Archive August 07 2018

 

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07 Aug 2018 22:26:33
SOS

Save our season, what do you realistically want on deadline day? After the Glazer/ Woodward induced wait to the last minute mess what could save it? What are your last minute deals that save the season and no there is no manager swap.
How about
1) Central defender Maguire, yes Alderweireld is probably better but deal with Spurs on Deadline Day? Really, I can see Levy rubbing his hands. Mourinho had Terry who was a leader and a rock, never the quickest. Maguire has that rugged element of Terry and is a potential leader on the pitch, something we lack, who do we have with long term potential to be the next captain? (Both Toby and Harry would be nice but the Glazers won't do that)
2) O Dembele, we need to find creation pace and goals and at the last minute he may be the best bet.
Cant see many moves but what an interesting day it would be If we did O Dembele plus cash for Pogba, buy Savic or Veratti and Maguire.

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{Ed004's Note - In an ideal world Alderwerield and Dembele in, keep Pogba and sell Martial, Darmian and Rojo/Jones abroad when domestic window shuts}

07 Aug 2018 22:57:14
Redman there are a few who think our squad is good enough to win the league and moan about people wanting new players i can't agree with them.

If pogba goes i'd like to see kroos or sms come in.

I don't think dembele was mentioned as a target but if martial goes too he would be a great replacement.

Toby or nobody at cb would be my choice. i'm not inspured by either boetang mina or harry.

I still think a lb is a real necessity and hope dalot does enough to claim the rb spot before xmas.

To answer your question best possible outcome for fri is
Pogba and jose kiss and makeup
Toby signs
Sandro signs
And wildcard rebic signs.
Rash or martial claim the rw spot and work hard to succeed there.

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07 Aug 2018 23:11:24
The lb portion if we don't get anybody give Mitchell a run of games he looked very good on loan till his injury.

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08 Aug 2018 00:11:05
Red man

Agree with 99% of that apart from i saying toby is probably better than toby. Maguire is absokutely nowhere near the level of toby, worlds apart. If we xant get toby then IMO i'd rather sign nobody than maguire (for the moment, who knows in 2 or 3 seasons maguire may be the player we all want)

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08 Aug 2018 00:21:29
*. i mean to say i don't agree with u saying toby is probably better than maguire. he's wrlds better than maguire.

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07 Aug 2018 23:40:56
Position stupid phone.

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08 Aug 2018 07:21:22
Pogba + Cash for Pjanic and Alex Sandro

Martial for Pulisic

Buy Alderweireld

Sell Darmian and 2 of Rojo/ Smalling/ Jones.

De Gea
Valencia Bailly Alderweireld Sandro
Fred Matic Pjanic
Pulisic Lukaku Alexis

Not bad at all imo.

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08 Aug 2018 07:34:27
RedMan. For me, shipping out the deadwood and the players who don't want to be here would have been the most important. shaw, jones, darmian, Rojo, martial and Pogba. If that was to happen, then would be nice to have
Modric, savic, mcguire or toby or both and pulisic.
But we might get one and i think that'll be Toby.

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07 Aug 2018 21:06:54
It’s all a bit frantic isn’t it? However, we have Fred and I think Sanchez is as good as a new signing. If Jose is confident of one more signing then that suggests he knows something that we don’t. We also have e young players who are another year older, I don’t think it’s quite as tragic as some are suggesting.

Pogba and Martial are concerning, if they were happy and focused then we would have some squad (albeit with some weaknesses still to address) but the ongoing gripes aren’t helping.

Still, a top CB and I think we will be up where the action is.

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07 Aug 2018 21:34:32
I'm not confident of anyone coming in.

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07 Aug 2018 21:52:05
I'd be confident of the 1 only cause Jose alluded, beyond that no way confident.

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07 Aug 2018 22:19:37
Whats he alluded Ross?

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07 Aug 2018 22:46:34
Just in the presser after the Liverpool game saying he believed 1 was possible, not 2.

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07 Aug 2018 23:45:26
Ah okay. Yeah I think he was trying to push them there. Still think they'll push through 2 signings. Toby and 1 other.

Then if pogba goes, savic comes.

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07 Aug 2018 20:13:23
Don't know about you guys, but I'm surprised we haven't signed anyone by now but also completely unsurpised we haven't either. Weird one. Not looking too positive with under 48 hours left.

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07 Aug 2018 20:25:47
We’ve signed 3 players.

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07 Aug 2018 20:36:35
We also got Sanchez in Jan.

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07 Aug 2018 20:54:07
I think it is more scary that we don't know what formation or 11 we'll play in 2 days time.

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07 Aug 2018 21:00:26
Mumbai
WC is a big part of that.

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07 Aug 2018 21:05:01
I meant since Fred. We are still short and everyone knows it, hopefully we can pull something out the bag before the deadline.

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07 Aug 2018 21:06:08
We also signed vidic in Jan 2006.

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07 Aug 2018 21:18:22
Ross yawn I think Sanchez will be like a new signing we missed a player like him last season .
I'm not sure vidic will.

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07 Aug 2018 21:22:30
Dont forget the most important signing of the summer. Fellaini.

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07 Aug 2018 21:55:12
Ah sorry jred, I'm very talented at being a smart arse. I hope your right, he has a lot to prove.

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07 Aug 2018 20:09:54
Second in the league last year you would think reading down the site we had come mid table and sold all our best players .

No God given right to win the epl every year, especially when city produce the level of football they did last season .

Footy was crap to watch but we all knew that would be the case with Jose.

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07 Aug 2018 20:18:58
I think it’s a reflection of Jose’s comments. Hard for people not to get a bit panicked when the manager is telling us that we don’t have a squad capable of competing, and we’re struggling to bring people in. It will be a very frustrating August if we don’t bring people in, and have persistent speculation about Pogba and Martial until September.

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07 Aug 2018 20:25:17
This is coming out of your mouth. Every post i read from you, you just have to mention Mourinho and how his team plays or how we shouldve expected what is being currently delivered.

Come on mate you need to get over your love with Guardiola and stop hating on Mourinho.

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07 Aug 2018 20:36:04
Singh
Like I said second in the league nothing wrong with that .
City were excellent last season broke the 100 points barrier . Again nothing wrong with saying that.

We haven't bought the shinny new superstar that some fans want so the dummies are out the pram .

Danny
Jose said he think he will get 1 more, would like 2 but managers never get what they want .
Hard start to the season with wc etc and not having our full squad .

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07 Aug 2018 21:03:46
Come down from your high tower there jred. You seem to be so blinkered by your hatred for Jose.
I'd rather have Jose as the manager than have smalling, young and rojo in our squad. Fact.
I would lay odds that Jose deems many out of smalling, Jones, young, Shaw, fellaini, darmian, rojo etc not good enough for our club.
I think you can also see with the players that he has already allowed to leave our club, the type of players deemed not good enough by Jose.

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07 Aug 2018 21:21:44
Ross
Of course Jose rates players just the same as you .
So if you don't rate them Jose won't.
As I have said nothing wrong with second and 80 plus points last season it seems it's you and a few others who have an issue

No we're near as bad as your trying to make out in fact for a club like United spending millions paying too wages finishing second in the league it's a bit embarrassing. Thank God you support a big club.

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07 Aug 2018 21:22:59
Be good when window is over. This site has gone mad past few weeks.

Get back to the lengthy posts, arguments, opinions etc.

At the moment this site is a tough read. I'm sure it'd be a lot tougher if the eds didn't moderate.

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07 Aug 2018 21:31:08
If Mourinho doesn't think Fellaini is not good enough then why was he so desperate for him to sign a new contract rather than just leave?

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07 Aug 2018 22:07:42
Jred with the squad we had last season, I think that 2nd was as good as we could have gotten actually.
Does that mean that I don't think we have at least 6 players that are not good enough to be at the club, no or doesn't,
Fact is we have several players on between 100k to 150k a week wages that are not good enough to be near the first team.
Are you honestly telling me that young, rojo, smalling, blind schneiderlin, a past it schweinsteiger etc etc are good enough for the club. I don't.
I've supported united since 1986, I have seen more good times than bad however I witnessed big Ron's final year and Fergies early ones, I've never known the football club as badly run as it has been in the last 5 years, from a boardroom perspective.

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08 Aug 2018 00:35:41
Ross.
It was an absolute shambles in the 80s . your talking rubbish.

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08 Aug 2018 08:42:22
Jred what are you on about, I said I started supporting the club in. 86, 86/ 87 was big Ron's last season, where he was sacked after a terrible start to the league.
Fergie was hired in november 86, we all know what happened after.
You should read Martin Edwards book 'Red glory' if you truly think that the board was a shambles during this period and you for some reason think that I am talking rubbish.
You may come away with a new perspective.

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08 Aug 2018 10:15:41
Ross
It was a shambles the club was nothing compared to what it is now .

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08 Aug 2018 11:34:28
Jred I'm sorry but you clearly have no clue, there's a difference between being more profitable and being better run.
Please feel free to give any basis for your argument.

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07 Aug 2018 19:32:21
Question for the Eds, with the window shutting early here compared to the rest do you see sales agreed in principle prior to 5pm Thursday to allow the PL clubs the focus on bringing replacements in then the sale I occurring after on the assumption the incoming happens.
For example Pogba to Barcelona agreed on the basis we can secure Milinovic Savic from lazio by 5pm Thursday. Pogba then moves on Friday?

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{Ed001's Note - no, most European clubs will just wait until the window closes and the English clubs are stuck with too many players, then cherry pick.}

07 Aug 2018 19:59:18
Ed001, do you think EPL clubs will revert back to the normal window if they lose out on players/ money this summer?

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07 Aug 2018 19:59:18
Ed001, do you think EPL clubs will revert back to the normal window if they lose out on players/ money this summer?

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{Ed001's Note - if they had any sense they would scrap the window altogether as it has not solved any of the problems they put the window in place to fix. Quite the opposite. But people in football are not bright enough to understand that, they will probably just try and put pressure on the rest of the leagues to follow suit.}

07 Aug 2018 20:15:21
It does seem to be a bit silly. Can’t see why they think it helps them reduce disruption.

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07 Aug 2018 20:17:09
Ed so how do you want transfers to be done? All throughout the season?
Surely that'd be chaotic.

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{Ed001's Note - it was never a problem in the past. It allowed teams to give youngsters more of a go as you could keep a smaller squad and just buy when you needed to. The class of 92 would never have got the chance now because Fergie would have been unable to take the risk to see how they got on, knowing he couldn't just delve into the transfer market all the way up until March, like he could then. It has been mayhem ever since as everyone panic buys on deadline day trying to build a squad with no gaps. In the past you could just go with what you had until there was a problem and then buy to fix it.}

07 Aug 2018 20:45:33
Agree 100% Ed001, only ones that the transfer window works for are papers, sly sports and greedy agents.

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{Ed001's Note - and that is exactly what it is all about. I just don't understand why the clubs keep voting for it. They are like turkeys who are voting for Christmas (or Thanksgiving in the US). I just wonder how bad things have to get before they wake up and realise.}

07 Aug 2018 20:50:02
100% agree with the ed on this, would also add I think it has totally glamourised transfers some fans are more interested in the window than the club.

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07 Aug 2018 19:26:16
Totally making up things now but sure I suppose so is every football 'reporter' and it's a rumours site after all.
If we don't sign O Dembele, there is talk of juve looking to sell d Costa.
Massive overpriced bid for him, sounds like by your kinda deal ed.

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07 Aug 2018 18:47:56
See axel got into Guinness book of records #champ #hungryhungryhippos.

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07 Aug 2018 17:44:14
Woodward should not be in control of our transfer negotiations. It is clear that since Fergie and Gill left we have not had a clear and consistent transfer policy over a period of 3 managers now.
Absolute scattergun approach from our club regarding transfers.
We used to accuse others of identifying transfer targets by copying us, yet the same could now be levelled at us, sanchez, Fred in the recent past.
Woodward has had what at least 8 transfer windows and there have been few he hasn't made a mess of.
Look at the positive change in our neighbours transfer policy since begiristain has come in.
We need a radial overhaul in the same manner, enough is enough.

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07 Aug 2018 17:54:52
What is it in particular that you haven't like Ross?

The players ed has bought? The amount he has paid for them?

Is it a case where you want him to spend more because United have consistently overpaid. Maybe Woodward doesn't want to do that anymore.

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07 Aug 2018 18:05:05
RP.
Its not ideal that's for sure.
I don't lay all the blame at woodwards door to be honest.
I said the other day key depts in the club are not aligned. The coach the ceo the board are not on the same page imo it looks like they are not even reading the same book.

A month ago i said that the board have 3 choices and it looks like they have chosen the worst one imo

1. Back the coach 100% sell who he doesn't want buy who he wants within teason where possible.

2. Sack the coach and get another new one.

3. Do a fudge job and do neither. Which will end up with an unhsppy coach and squad and supporters who are not getting 1 thing or the other.

We have on the fudge side at the moment with an unhappy coach 2 star players that want out. A bunch of players the manager doesn't want and hardly plays. A crap style of football that won't improve drastically without getting players in.

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07 Aug 2018 18:38:29
Hi angel, no nothing to do with money for me.
Just the scattergun approach that has been evidenced since moyes, i. e. Fellini and Mata, why were both bought, what plan did these 2 players fit into or were they just at the time the best that we could have gotten, i. e, moyes as manager.
Under lvg we brought in a lot of mid level players, rojo/ blind/ darmian/ schneiderlin who were not good enough for our club.
Players like schweinsteiger and Falcao who had serious ijury concerns at the time and should not have been signed but were because of the shirts they would sell, i. e. Big names.
Di maria who did not want to be here, out of the above he is one of the only 1's I still would have signed based on his skill and form alone, just obviously didn't work under lvg.
Depay, martial and shaw clearly did not/ do not have the character at their age to play for the club.
Hererra has been the best if lvgs for me
Not all of Jose's have worked out either but they have definitely been of a better quality.

We have singed has beens and never beens for huge amounts of money on huge wages.
Alderwerield/ kante/ vidal/ mane/ salah/ sane/ de bruyne/ Ricardo rodriguez/ godin/ O dembele (before he went to dortmund) etc etc etc were/ are the type of players we should have been targeting.
Look at city, look at their transfer policy, they are making a joke out of us.

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07 Aug 2018 18:43:41
Ken you have that much better than I but I am in complete agreeance with you.
My rant directed at Ed only is prob not accurate, it seems to run deeper, who even knows who runs the club, I have no clue.

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07 Aug 2018 18:51:11
I'm sure sly sports had that as their headline the other day 'scatter gun united' or something alike. No matter who we sign we are still going to be Manchester United and we will support them. We have been spoiled in the fergie era and football has moved on. Should we change the players or the manager or even Woodward? That's a decision that we don't get to make we can only debate about. It's the board and the owners that make these decisions. If anybody is to blame it's them. We should all at least try and be a bit more positive towards the team and not want to replace most of our squad every season and cheer them on even when we aren't winning.

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07 Aug 2018 19:07:47
Hi Danny, shooks you got me, copied the whole thing from sky sports, spelling mistakes and all 😂.
We have wasted money and regressed (certainly not progressed) the club I believe direclty because of our terrible (is this a better word for you? ) transfer policy.
We have overpaid on players in no way suitable for our club that Fergie would never have sanctioned the purchase, we have tried to cut corners, it has not worked, be that with players or managers.

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07 Aug 2018 18:33:26
Agree fully with Ross and i can't see how anyone can disagree. It is Woodward job to get the players at a decent price and give them reasonable contracts. He's overpaid for most players and stuffed us with some high wages and that's why he can't get rid of the crap players.
Ken, you've hit the nail on the head. When we've needed strong and positive action, Woodward has fudged it.
I'm all for getting the best and giving them what they want, as we can sell them whenever we want (eg pogba) . But when we're getting average players, aka rojo, smalling, jones, shaw and giving them stupid wages, is it any wonder no one wants to buy them?

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07 Aug 2018 19:38:59
Ross, doesn't really help that we have had quite a few different managers over the last number of years. Man united also had a manager at the club for such a long time that he had an overall plan and view and rebuilt many squads. Probably had a major say in who to sign. Then moyes is in, different approach, transfer ideas, LVG, who I believe also said he hasn't had to pick transfer targets since his time at Ajax And then Jose.

I think United haven't adapted like other clubs, DOFs and head scouts who draw up targets. We still rely heavily on the managers input where as clubs such as Bayern, Barcelona and Real all see their managers as just coaches who come and go.

I also feel ed becomes a bit of a scapegoat.

Also, city's transfers work well because they have always been willing to pay more than anyone. Their owners kind of guarantee that. We don't have that luxury regardless of how well we are doing as a business.

They also seem to be a bit further ahead in the recruitment side.

Going by the eds input, so do we.

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07 Aug 2018 19:39:08
Danny good post.
I think the vast majority support whoever pulls on the jersey and want a win regardless of who is playing.
I am not a fellaini fan but when he got the last min winner i jumped as high as the next man.
Im not a shaw fan but if he plays lb this season and brings a new dynamic to the team and fulfills the potential some think he has then ill be delighted to asmit i was wrong.

Id be doing all i can to keep pogba and to resolve the tensions that exist. But if that boat has sailed and he is adamant he wants a move then i'd sell him.

I would not make the same effort to keep martial. But if we don't get our price then keep him and hope je gets a chance to shine.

We all want the team to be successful. We all want to see better football.
But this window has not pleased jose yet.
Couple of positives pereira looks kike he has developed nicely and will provide good competition for matic this year with the hope of taking over.
Tuanzebe looked good and got a great loan move.
Shaw looks like he will get an extended run.
Fred looked comfortable in his 2 short showings.
If the squad is not added to and if shaw does not improve dramatically and if dalot doesn't take over from tony then we will have more of the same i feel.

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07 Aug 2018 19:46:05
AaA. Therein lies the problem. We have been told the club are open and happy to move on shaw smalling rojo darmian blind mata martial and pogba.
All those players are on top money and with a couple of exceptions are not wanted by any top clubs.
This makes it hard to shift them unless the fee is rexuced to the selling club substantially.
Smalling in my opinion would be a great asset for many epl clubs and i'd rather keep him than blow the family silver on big harry M.

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07 Aug 2018 20:30:31
If the board and the coach aren't on the same page they need to sack him .
Do people really think that every manager gets all the players he wants or that every club aren't open to players moving on if the correct offer is made?
Read the pages on the site of other clubs every set if fans want xyz sold or xyz bought that's just footy.
This is just a case of getting the excuses in early .
As Angel says above at inter and Madrid Jose had very little say on transfers.
A lot of clubs hire a manager to coach there players not run the club.
You would think we were looking at relegation reading the above its a bit embarrassing.

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07 Aug 2018 20:56:18
Jred we know you hate mourinho, give it a rest.
You cannot say that our transfer policy in the last 5 years has been anything other than abysmal.
The club has no structure since Fergie left, there is no plan in place, there is no development plan, lvg like him or not was the closest we got to this.
A big problem is that managers have been allowed the freedom to make some of these signings also but for players who were either not good enough ever or were not good enough anymore.
In my opinion rather than overspending on players not good enough or past it we should have signed the likes of Alderwerield/ kante/ vidal/ mane/ salah/ sane/ de bruyne/ Ricardo rodriguez/ godin/ O dembele (before he went to dortmund for much less and built a fantastic team.
Maybe then we would not be struggling to sell/ stuck with young/ darmian/ blind/ schneiderlin/ smalling/ rojo etc etc etc.
I really don't understand how you can disagree, it's as clear as day that the club has been mismanaged.
Just to note I've supported our club since 1986 so this is not about getting shiny new players, this is about our philosophy or lack thereof.

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07 Aug 2018 21:09:09
Ross
You have just listed a load of shinny new players .
Mane was mentioned on the site as was alderweirield but they weren't big enough names .
Salah, no body on the site wanted him after Chelsea.
Very easy to say we should of bought xy and z .
If pogba was still at juve people would want us to sign him or Miki who was Dourtmund player of the year as was kagawa .
Your getting mixed up with bad buys and players not playing well.
Dembele? Struggled at Dortmund struggled at barce could be going to his 4th club in 4 years . 21 years old questionable attitude, talent but doesn't work hard enough for Jose. The stereotypical shinny high profile player .
We have no god given right to win things .
L8fe after fergy pal . Bit scary eh.

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07 Aug 2018 21:09:23
By the way, I'm not saying lvgs plan was a good one, it wasn't, he signed a lot of these overpriced players but it did seem to be a plan nonetheless.
Its just he should not have been the one making it but perhaps a Dof or transfer committee or perhaps just a competent board.

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07 Aug 2018 21:09:45
Rosspique you changed your name?

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07 Aug 2018 21:33:26
Jred i agree entirely if the board won't let jose run the team as he sees fit they should sack him.

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08 Aug 2018 00:46:03
Ken
Jose works for United that's it, it's man United not Jose United.

As ed has said he has been backed by the board as Jose has said no manager gets every thing he wants tho .
The moaning on here is pathetic .

I love the Jose needs the players he wants.
Jose wanted fellaini the same people suddenly say he shouldn't be in the team .

3rd season millions spent backed by the club this is Jose team and it's time to deliver.

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07 Aug 2018 16:59:35
Chelsea will have some midfield if they get Kovacic, Jorginho-Kante-Kovacic. If Bakayoko gets firing again and along with Barkley (big fan), they'll be very strong.

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07 Aug 2018 17:09:55
Yeah that would be a seriously tasty midfield, I know a lot may not rate cesc anymore either but he hasn't even been mentioned, scary midfield. Oh and obviously the global superstar that is Danny drinkwater too 😂.

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07 Aug 2018 17:49:29
Drinkwater is a much better player than Barkley. Barkley is a complete waste of an underpants.

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07 Aug 2018 18:14:50
Look up over rated in a dictionary and there will be Ross Barkley. rubbish player.

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{Ed025's Note - not a rubbish player really mike, a bit of a dick head yes..but the guy is a good footballer mate..

07 Aug 2018 18:46:25
Hi Ed025 sorry to disagree. He has flattered to deceive over how many years now?
I don’t get the hype that did surround him a couple of year ago and I’m not surprised it has faded away to nothing. In a couple more years it will be Ross who?

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{Ed025's Note - you could well be right perth, as i have said he is as thick as two short planks and also been badly advised, he is still a talented footballer though mate imo..

07 Aug 2018 18:56:33
Barkley is quality. Wrong mindset. Chelsea might have a good midfield. But the my have a poor striker in Morata.

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{Ed025's Note - you have to have a mind to have a mindset MDL, but i get where your coming from mate..

07 Aug 2018 17:28:43
chelsea lack any quality up top.

yeah hazard is class but will he score 30 plus goals, not really. you keep him out the game and chelsea will struggle

they will struggle to score this season. imo.

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07 Aug 2018 17:28:43
chelsea lack any quality up top.

yeah hazard is class but will he score 30 plus goals, not really. you keep him out the game and chelsea will struggle

they will struggle to score this season. imo.

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07 Aug 2018 16:50:37
Does do Utd Rumour page have a Fantasy mini league?
I tried 49080-257895 but that was for the liverpool page.

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07 Aug 2018 18:04:28
2705078-672891.

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07 Aug 2018 15:46:31
Hi all,
Thanks to the Eds as always.
A Spanish newspaper is reporting that Barcelona would be willing to use either Dembele or Rakitic as part of the deal. Dembele would be a great option for us, Rakitic is a top player but perhaps not what we need.

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07 Aug 2018 16:57:50
Dembele would be awesome, superstar for a superstar (maybe superstar is a bit much but both I would say are on same level.
I called it a few days ago and really beleived it would happen however time is really ticking away and it may take Woodie 2 days just to take the 1 finger out of his ass, he still has the other 4 to go.

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07 Aug 2018 17:02:14
Id take Dembele in a heartbeat.

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07 Aug 2018 17:10:19
How would dembele do in a Jose team.

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07 Aug 2018 17:16:29
Who knows jred to be fair. Possibly better than Pogba has though?

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07 Aug 2018 17:57:31
I think Rakitic would offer a hell of a lot, engine, see's a pass, not a showboater, intelligent player, links brilliantly (rarely gives it away) . I'd snap Barcelona's hands off for a straight swap of Dembele and Rakitic for the Pog. Two key positions filled and somebody that doesn't want to be here off the books. No brainer if deal is possible for me.

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07 Aug 2018 18:07:25
Id take both. Forget the cash. Sorts right forward out and a replacement.

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07 Aug 2018 18:45:35
I'd snap their hand of for that too beast.

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07 Aug 2018 14:46:47
Clearly things between Pogba/ Martial and Mourinho aren't the best. Given a choice they'd want to leave and Mourinho would want to sell them and buy replacements. Too late now but this has been the situation from the start of the window and Woodward clearly does not want to sell them.

Doesn't Woodward's decision to not sell and replace them clearly indicate the lack of trust in Mourinho? It's like the next manager could like these players and selling them under Mourinho would be a regretful decision after we appoint the next manager.

Clearly Woodward/ Glazers don't trust Mourinho, its like he's a dead man walking. Makes sense?

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07 Aug 2018 15:01:10
Mate it can't work like that either you fire the manager or get his targets and sell those that he doesn't want. If we force the manager to work with players he doesn't want how do you expect him to win.
Dead man walking? Really?

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07 Aug 2018 15:03:55
Can't sell if there's no good offers.

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07 Aug 2018 15:04:58
Mumbai_Boy, Pogba has been offered by the club, not Mourinho, to 4 clubs and that has been the situation for quite some time now. So, don't see where is that lack of trust in Jose you are pointing towards.

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07 Aug 2018 15:09:56
I understand what your saying however that’s just your threory and I don’t think CEO’s conduct business with what if mentality in the future lol, it could be that Jose gave a list of targets to Ed Woodward and he’s yet to get those targets over the line, you can’t always get what you want as Jagger once said.

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07 Aug 2018 15:54:04
United Addict - Pogba has been offered by his agent and that is clearly because of his disagreements with Mourinho. There is no other reason for Pogba wanting to leave. So it is down to the relationship between Mourinho-Pogba. Are you really telling me any other manager is going to start McT over Pogba just to prove some twisted point?

Welsh - I understand your point but Pogba/ Bailly/ Lindelof are all Mourinho signings and clearly he has some or the other problem with them. At his earlier clubs he took tough calls with top players like Casillas/ Kaka/ Joe Cole and he was backed by the board/ upper management of those clubs. That doesn't seem to be the case at United.



Mourinho thrives on the siege mentality - us against the world. His stints and Inter and Chelsea (especially 1st stint) he pretty much had all the fans/ board on his side for the vast majority of his tenure, he developed that siege mentality at those clubs. Don't think he has that at United and it is difficult to see if he ever will. All his cockiness only flies when he has the fans/ board backing him, otherwise it just looks petulant and disrespectful.

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07 Aug 2018 16:21:37
Or. No club has matched our valuation for either player, and something has to give if they are to be sold.

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07 Aug 2018 17:58:42
Mumbai boy, how about Pogba not wanting to be at United in the first place? that's a start on why he would want to leave. Eds mentioned as much and also that United would be a stepping stone.

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07 Aug 2018 19:15:04
Well if Pogba didn't want to be here in the first place then we have been well and truly shafted by him and his agent.

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{Ed025's Note - i cant see that mumbai, poor old mino raiola only made £42m out of the deal mate..

07 Aug 2018 14:08:30
Hey Barcelona, if Coutinho is worth £140m, then Pogba is worth £200m+, and as jerry Macguire said "SHOW ME THE MONEY".

It's a no for now, but come back in January if you are serious. If your short of cash we can settle on Dembele + £100m. Have a nice day.

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07 Aug 2018 14:58:26
Barca offered a bit of cash and Mina and Gomes for Pogba. If we are stupid enough to take them on, then woodward and mourinho have to be sacked. Gomes is utter tripe.

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07 Aug 2018 15:32:20
Coutinho is in a different class to Pogba.

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07 Aug 2018 16:48:36
Really Seosahm,

How many World Cups has he won?

Just saying.

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{Ed001's Note - ah the idiots reply! Bringing up trophies in a team sport to try and suggest one player is better than another. Only the refuge of those without a bloody clue. I suppose that means Pogba must be better than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo and George Best by this idiotic way of thinking...}

07 Aug 2018 17:12:18
That's a ridiculous way to judge a player.

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07 Aug 2018 17:14:31
It's certainly comparing apples with oranges in any case. Coutinho for me has shown signs of and demonstrated true class on at least a semi-consistent to consistent basis. Pogba simply has not, he still may however.

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07 Aug 2018 17:22:29
Over from the Liverpool page, would have Coutinho over Pogba all day long. I am not biased as I can say you guys have the best keeper in the world in De Gea, to me at times he doesn't seem human. Pogba situation as I see it is that if he wants to leave let him go, you only got to look at us to see what keeping hold of an unhappy player leads to (Coutinho) .

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07 Aug 2018 17:35:12
Totally agree alonso, don't think your being biased at all. he does not want to be here, never did. I would go as far as to say coutinho gave more of a crap about your club than Pogba does ours.
Pogba only cares about self promotion, a shame, he will come good at some stage I think, it will just not be until he reaches the age of 28 or so.

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07 Aug 2018 17:35:12
Totally agree alonso, don't think your being biased at all. he does not want to be here, never did. I would go as far as to say coutinho gave more of a crap about your club than Pogba does ours.
Pogba only cares about self promotion, a shame, he will come good at some stage I think, it will just not be until he reaches the age of 28 or so.

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07 Aug 2018 13:14:54
Ed002,

Do you expect us to complete any signings before the transfer window closes?

Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - See previous answers.}

07 Aug 2018 13:47:44
ed has said he expects some business both inbound and out bound, but by god i agree it has been horrible experience so far! i think we need to apologize to ed now for the utter ridiculous and repetitive questions we are all going to be asking over the next two days but by god i hope we get some good news soon otherwise i can see our fan base going into meltdown on deadline day!

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07 Aug 2018 14:10:33
No offence to you Mr DBrooks90 but people shouldn't be asking the same questions over and over again in the first place.

Loads of duplicate questions the last 3 days. again, not directed at you at all.

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07 Aug 2018 14:46:27
they shouldn't, but we're human, might as well apologize now as i only see it getting worse over the next few days until the window closes.

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07 Aug 2018 15:00:14
Doc, could ypu please refrain from asking such benign questions to eds. When we sign someone you'll no doubt hear about it. Fgs, give the Eds a break.

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07 Aug 2018 15:46:31
aaa - why can't he ask questions.

everyone is entitled to ask what they want,

they will get a response from the eds if its a question they don't want an answer or have already covered.

isnt that the whole point of this site - to communicate.

doc don't feel you can't ask anything on here. if the eds don't reply i'm sure one of us will.

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{Ed004's Note - I would advise that posters check the previous replies before they ask questions. There's been a tonne posted that haven't even made it to the site all repeating questions that have been previously asked. It can get quite tedious. This isn't me intentionally critiquing Doc just stressing the need to aware that it can get frustrating reading the same questions over and over again and the majority of them aren't even directed for my attention}

07 Aug 2018 15:37:28
Soz guys and thanks Ed002. Let’s see what happens in the next few days 🙏🏼.

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07 Aug 2018 18:32:48
Love you, Ed004 😂. Anyway, I’ll just go back and drill a few more teeth 😬 Peace ✌️.

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07 Aug 2018 12:18:34
Being a true United supporter for 50 years I am currently disillusioned with my club, and not particularly excited on the eve of a new season.
I will always support my club, but am not happy with the direction the club has taken in recent years.
We are not entitled to win trophy after trophy, but what I do feel entitled to is when I walk through those turnstiles I am going to be entertained and more often than not walk away from the ground with a smile on my face.
I did not want Mourinho as my manager, but was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, hoping he may change managing the biggest club in world football. But that has not happened, and we now find ourselves in a position where we seem to be failing in attracting top players to our club.
The path we have taken with managerial appointments since Ferguson left has been wrong. Instead of going out there and getting the best, and paying for the best they have made weak appointments, and dare I say it appointments on the cheap.
When i look at the players in our squad I feel with the right manager we should be competing at the top level. However we have a manager who seems to suppress these players natural abilities, and now find ourselves in a position where if rumours be true, players I want to watch, Pogba and Martial are on the verge of leaving this club to no doubt thrive elsewhere.
I have to point the finger at Woodward who seems more concerned with where the next commercial deal is coming from, rather than ensuring we have the team we the fans want to watch.
I may be proven wrong and hope that I am! but I feel we will struggle to compete for a top 4 finish playing the outdated style of play Mourinho seems so unprepared to change. He cannot move with the times.
With Mourinho's track record we all know where this is going to end up . so we might as well push the button to end is managerial career with our club sooner rather than later.

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07 Aug 2018 13:28:00
So who do you want as manager?

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07 Aug 2018 14:22:10
Magic Dave I couldn’t agree more. Spot on fella.

That’s exactly how I feel three days before the season starts. Can I really be arsed trekking all Over the country and Europe again this season to watch boring football wher I come out most weeks feeling angry or frustrated at what I’m seeing.

I don’t really care who we get, there’s plenty of good managers out there and they’ll certainly be managers at other clubs who’ll look at our squad and think they can get a better tune out of them.

His continual reluctantance to play a style of football that entertains is almost as bad as his constant digging out of the players at every opportunity.

I want him to hold his hands up and take the blame at the very least, he’s even turned on players he’s bought. After knowing how they play and what they’re best at he’s brought them to united and tried to change them.

Your right Most of us have an idea of how it’ll pan out and yet after two seasons of awful football (I don’t give a toss about the two cups he won, on Friday that will be two seasons ago and it’s history) yet there are still fans defending him.

I’m seriously regretting renewing my tickets for this year but as ever you do so in blind optimism. £1900 for two season tickets, last year I did the super cup, 6 of 8 champions league games (missing Moscow and Basel) all 6 FA cup and 2 of the three league cup games. With some of the ridiculous cup ticket prices I did another £1600, plus premier league away game tickets and fuel, parking, flights, hotels, food and drink. When you start thinking about spending another £6k plus you do start to question whether it’s a worth it. It’s a lot of money to be bored and angry. It’s certainly not about winning it’s about wanting to enjoy yourself. Taking the time out to follow the team is a huge commitment and we really deserve better then Jose stale dated brand of football.

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07 Aug 2018 15:13:48
Magic Dave and AirForce. This is exactly how i feel. It seems the City owners and manager have a clear plan while our lot are only interested in the plan that makes them money.
We have a manager that has won everything, but his methods are outdated. What he's won in the past, counts foe nothing. What he does in the future counts for everything. Unfortunately, every dog has his day, and Mourinho's day has gone three years ago.
His attitude stinks, and his man management has been terrible. The club are in a mess on the football side, and he's moaning about the lack of signings.
The fueds and constant poor appointments and decisions are what's putting me off the club completely. It seems the club has no soul and the manager has no clear tactics or direction.
May i also add, the atmosphere in the ground is very quiet, no one supports the team. I am in the singing stand, and i notice the ground is so quiet these days apart ftom the top games.
I think everyone has taken success for granted and taken the eyes off the ball. Change has to happen from the top down to the bottom, otherwise, we'll be saying the same things in 10 years time.

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07 Aug 2018 15:50:54
united had a plan.

we have been reminded of this by the eds, and because of the fans that plan had to change, and now the majority are whinging about having no plan.

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07 Aug 2018 16:58:29
Yes Bolger, but it was a bad plan and took no account of the supporters.

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07 Aug 2018 17:08:20
Bolger, out of interest, what was the plan after fergie left? Appoint moyes and buy Fellaini? What was the plan? I'm only asking out of curiosity, because from where I'm standing and having lived 62 years and supported United for over 48 years, i couldn't see a clear plan.
The most successful manager of all time retires, and we get an average manager who has won absolutely nothing managing Everton for 11 years, then he sacks all the backroom staff and buys Fellaini. If that was the plan and some realistic fans saw through the chaos, then we have every reason to be upset. And things haven't improved much especially on our transfer dealings.

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07 Aug 2018 18:43:57
It saddens me greatly to say it but I don't think I'll be watching mutch of Utd until Mourinho leaves. The football's been terrible/ boring for about seven years now and I've had my fill.

Too many times I've come away from the ground or switched off the TV and felt I'd wasted my time. This is not the Utd I fell in love with. The club has a duty to entertain it's supporters and if it can't be bothered then I think it find that increasing numbers of supporters won't be bothered either.

I was thinking about trying to get a ticket for Friday's game and even though it wouldn't cost me anything and i live two miles from the ground I've decided there are many other more interesting ways I can spend my Friday night and to be honest I just can't summon up any natural enthusiasm for it. I'm gutted it's come to this but hopefully it's just temporary and the next manager will play football worth watching.

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07 Aug 2018 12:12:53
I’m genuinely excited about the links to Ousamane Dembele, I’d love to see him playing RW for us. Hopefully Jose gets the defenders he wants too and the CB’s can build a strong partnership, hopefully that will give Jose more confidence to allow the team to attack. I saw a tactical breakdown on Fred’s style of play and how his former club utilised him, I think he could be great for us.

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{Ed004's Note - I don't believe we have a chance of getting Dembele especially since Barcelona will want Pogba in exchange. However, it would be a season changer for us. Alderwerield and Dembele would enable us to compete this season imo}

07 Aug 2018 14:01:13
Do you not think we would do an exchange for Pogba Ed004? I guess replacing him with someon like SMS would be very expensive.

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{Ed004's Note - How would we get the deal done in less that 2 days though? It's not feasible for this window}

07 Aug 2018 15:22:42
It appears the papers are one step ahead of you Ed. loan to buys 😂 I mean I have no grounds in which to judge but even arranging loan to buys for Pogba, Dembele and SMS appears a lengthy task?

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{Ed004's Note - I would take Dembele in on a loan to buy happily. Wouldn't want Pogba leaving though}

07 Aug 2018 12:04:36
Away from the doom and gloom around pogba martial and mourinho, one player who has quietly been going about his business has been alexis sanchez. Looks sharp in pre season and full of energy.

Interested to see peoples opinion on the following:

1.) Where do you think his best position is, LW in a 4-3-3 or up front in a 3-5-2?

2.) Providing he plays 30-35 league games how many goals and assists do you expect him to get?

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{Ed025's Note - up front...and 15-20 goals for me DSG..

07 Aug 2018 12:11:54
Hes went missing in 3 of the games. May look sharp but is not the force of 2 seasons ago. Overrated.

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07 Aug 2018 12:24:15
Interesting debate DSG he's got to play upfront for me.

He plays far too deep when played out wide and is ineffective. If he continues to play wide left, which I think he will, we'll see another wasted talent in my opinion.

I agree with Ed 25 between 15-20 goals if played up front!

I think we've seen against Bayern that Jose is probably going to play 4-3-3. That means Sanchez too deep getting in Pogba's way and no resolution on the right. New season same old problems.

Got to be a midfield diamond or 3 at the back for me.

Sorry to bring the negativity back maybe someone else can be a bit more positive!

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07 Aug 2018 12:47:12
I would love to see him playing on the right where he flourished at Barcelona. He clearly prefers to play from the left or centrally though.

I just hope the media attention around his performances has died down over the summer and that he can have a steady 15 goal season.

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06 Aug 2018 11:50:03
Leicester busy trying to buy defenders. Looks like an other for Maguire has been made. 😆😆.

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07 Aug 2018 12:05:22
Terrible signing that mate. Dealt well will long balls at the World Cup. But anytime someone runs at him he turns like milk. Really expect United to go for a top defender.

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06 Aug 2018 11:41:59
I saw 2 games. Peps city vs Jose's United. City started so brightly from where they left. nice football. positive. and
Then it was United. same dull football. attackers on their own. clear null from right. Although Pogba, Matic and Lukaku to return.

I see 2 area same as last season. all messed and under liability. right attack and Left back. All were sitting deep and still Bayern were managed to have shots. if it wasn't for DDG. we would see 3-4 goals conceded. All I can see is no improvement in tactics, mood and play style.

I wasn't rating pep. only counting him as Messi made manager. but given amount of money. to all other managers. he is doing great followed by Klopp.
Optimist still have 4 full days left of window. as they say.

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07 Aug 2018 15:44:44
You can add Young Lingard Fellaini and to an extent even valencia to your yet to return list.

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07 Aug 2018 10:37:21
If pogba wants to go I would let him, for dembele and some cash. Get alderweireld over the line and then thiago/ sms in to replace pogba. Concerned we aren't actively targeting a lb though.

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07 Aug 2018 11:13:46
Really? You’re ‘concerned’ that we might not sign 4 players in the last few days of the transfer window?

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07 Aug 2018 11:46:47
It is a damn game, it is not the be all and end all. Why would I be anything more than concerned? Should I be worried, frightened, hysterical? That the club I support don't sign the players I would like?

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07 Aug 2018 12:23:43
Oh Redwhiskey the reply went right over you.

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07 Aug 2018 09:24:10
What's up guys reading your page and wanted a couple of opinions. To get it out of the way I think you guys are fooked. But I don't want you to be.

I think you've the third best squad in the league. City first Liverpool second slightly unproven but through rose tinted glasses I have us on par to city, then you guys.

My first issue though WAY too many attacking options all potentially should be playing but none of them playing to their best arguably. Rashford Martial Lingaard Sanchez Lukaku Mikhitaryian plus others and that doesn't fit into 3/ 4 especially when most want to play 9/ 10 and they certainly all do not fit into 1/ 2 spots. I think a decision needs to be made and some of these need to move on.

Defence needs strengthening. You're good defensively because if set up but how you play stifles your attackers because if you played more expansive your defence would be exposed. I think this is your biggest problem honestly. Side note what happened Bailly thought he looked decent? . Problem is I don't think you can afford the best defenders while having so many attackers earning crazy money, I know you guys are the richest club but it has to stop somewhere. You're clearly looking to strengthen but let's be real, Mina/ Maguire won't solve rubbish. Alderweireld if at prior form will certainly help. I also think a proper protective midfielder would help massively in this department but am not aware of efforts in this area? Finally I also think Herrera is key in midfield from the point if I think he is your best player at retaining the ball in midfield allowing the team to move out of the defensive shape.

Full backs also definitely need improving IMO but probably not going to happen this window. Also get shaws head right and play the kid again not 100% what's going on here.

Final point, the manager. As aforementioned I get the defensive football to protect your defense which has issues even though it puts me to sleep, mourinho sees it as best chance of results and that's his job. If however over this window and January your defence + midfield improves and you still see bad football well then clearly we've got a problem and you need to get rid of mou at this point.

They're an opposite reds thought on where I think its possible for you guys to do well, however on current trajectory I see you challenging for fourth more than first. Which I do not want to see as I would love to challenge and beat you guys to the title.

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07 Aug 2018 10:07:28
As long as we have Mkhitaryan on the right we will be fine mate so don't worry about us, I can't see him going anywhere any time soon.

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07 Aug 2018 10:10:45
Good post.

I dislike Mourinhos style. Personally i'd prefer to attack.
The pkayers we have could rip teams apart. instead it sit back and hopefully get a goal on the counter attack.

Before we played you at Anfield last season, we looked immense.
The game their changed it for us. Liverpool were there for the taling and Mourinho parkd the bus.

After that, it felt like the players didn't believe Mourinho had confidence in them.

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07 Aug 2018 10:17:26
If you are going to pretend like you know what you are talking about at least take the 30 seconds to google our current squad. Mkhitaryan? Get outta here.

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07 Aug 2018 10:31:51
Yeah forgot about that honestly GDS2 . Throw mata in instead. Now that I look at your squad though you actually need wingers? Unless you tell Martial you're the one to be our pacey winger which I think you should do? Could solve some issues if he's willing. Him to stay wide one side Sanchez to drift from the other lingaard in the middle behind lukaku?

Problem is I feel rashfird martial Sanchez and lukaku all want to play up top and mata lingaard and pogba all want to be in behind, hence I'm saying decisions need to be made on what your plan is going forward.

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07 Aug 2018 11:15:12
On par with City.

Is this year going to be your year?

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07 Aug 2018 11:16:36
It's Lingard.

I would just have a read of our page over the last few weeks, I think you will get most of the opinions you want from everyone, your opinion is clearly going to be massively biased in the opposite direction.

Appreciated that it is not just a 'banter' post but this team that is 'fooked' finished above your amazing side last season, so let's see how we go, the expectations are high at Liverpool and seemingly extremely low at United, the PR exercise Liverpool do every summer is in overdrive whereas the press are telling anyone who will listen how terrible United are, when the truth is somewhere in the middle.

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07 Aug 2018 11:50:59
Wow I thought it was a half decent post lol. We really seem to be on the defensive here guys, I don't think his post meant any malice.

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07 Aug 2018 11:51:09
Are you taking the miki.

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07 Aug 2018 12:23:25
Thanks Ay3 I did still say you have 3rd best squad and clearly stated my opinion on Liverpool was biased. Gds2 it was quite clearly banter the "fooked" part. I gave opinions on what I thought you had to do to challenge and what I thought would happen if you did not.

At the moment I'm not seeing any opinions in response a few just dismissing the post as I forgot a player left in January. I was over here up for a discussion and tried to give an unbiased view but obviously you guys aren't felling the best at the moment!

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07 Aug 2018 12:48:50
Shane I guess you came here because you felt your team has done a great bit of business and united are in more bad state. So you came here to play the nice guy and give your honest 'unbiased' opinion ;-) :-P.

Best wishes for the new season mate, hopefully united surprise everyone in the next two days. I still believe we will finish above you.

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07 Aug 2018 06:35:15
Apologies hit send too early.

So sell the players we want rid of without replacing them, therefore bringing in a large amount of cash. Then next summer going all out in the transfer market and bring in several new players?

Or would you rather see us in the situation we are in just now, keep the likes of Pogba and Martial but struggle to bring in other targets?

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07 Aug 2018 07:36:58
Rj, good post. Also, if he tries some of the younger players who have done so well in the reserves, they might even surprise mr Mourinho and we might not need a 30yr old Brazilian right winger at £75m, if Chong has a good season. We might not need a playmaker, if Gomez is given a chance to shine. But sadly, i don't think it'll happen.

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07 Aug 2018 07:50:15
I agree AAA. At the moment the way our squad is compared to others, I think we are probably 3rd/ 4th best in the league. Which isn't a terrible place to be by the way.

However, wouldn't it be just as good as seeing us finish 4th with this squad, probably playing a cautious style of football, if we finished 5th or 6th while giving the likes of Fosu Mensah, Gomes, Chong, Pereira etc a lot of game time? It'll never happen with Mourinho in charge but if you are unlikely to win today, try to plan for a win tomorrow. Mourinho is constantly looking for a win today which considering we are far behind City may actually set us back further going forward?

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07 Aug 2018 07:50:51
Tuanazebee and TFM going out on loan seems very rash as well with no replacements. TFM could be good RB cover . good for him and good for us.

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07 Aug 2018 07:52:42
Rj, if we were to lose Pogba and Martial and others which seams very likely and don't have proper replacements we are probably in for a terrible season.
Then as you say this would leave us with a lot of cash and we could invest heavily on star players next summer, but after one year anything could happen.
- Jose might leave at the end of the season due to bad season. That would leave us with a bad squad with a new manager to bring in lot of new players then we would be said another year needed for gelling, and after another year anything could happen again. This would leave us falling well behind than our rivals.
- Jose is staying and invests heavily on star players. Again no guaranty that we would transform to a very good team and challenge. Just forget the performance Jose has brought in Sanchez Lukaku Pogba Bailey Miki Matic Lindelof Fred but still we haven't become title challengers. This was also because of city doing good business but we should also take other teams' business.

So it would be a great risk to lose key players and not replace them now.

The club management should have a sensible concrete plan as what we are going to do. Who the manager would be and what would be our identity. But seems the club aleady had such a plan with LVG and Allegri, thanks to us Toxics ;) :P.

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07 Aug 2018 08:34:11
AAA,

The reserves came bottom of the league and got relegated, the under 18s had a great season but most are 2 maybe 3 years away from being strong enough and good enough for the first team.

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07 Aug 2018 08:50:12
What happens when he plays those young kids and results go south?

Will we blame Jose? The board? The players?

Fact is, these kids aren't ready now. Their results in the last couple of seasons show that.

Jose asked for more quality and he hasn't got it yet. I'd be pretty miserable in his position too.

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07 Aug 2018 09:22:56
Fully agree Angel. It's one thing to give the kids a chance it's another thing entirely to rely on them and expect them to make the difference.

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07 Aug 2018 11:07:48
You can only give kids a chance if they are good enough. Fact is, they arent.

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07 Aug 2018 06:32:38
Here's a question for you guys.

Many here think this season isn't shaping up to be a great one. We seemingly haven't landed our targets, the manager seems upset with this and we have a few players we want rid of but can't get rid of.

Would you accept a season where we don't challenge for the league and maybe finish 4th, 5th or 6th as well as sell the likes of Pogba, Martial, Darmian and others.

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07 Aug 2018 08:00:54
Yes, if it means the end of Mourinho and draws a line under the horrible last seven years of awful football we've had to endure.

If we make those sales then there should be plenty of money for a new manager to spend on players.

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07 Aug 2018 09:27:30
Rj its a hard question i think. The season is a long one and fifth or sixth would likely mean we finish behind liverpool, city etc. Not much in the way of bragging rights. As fans i think we would not find that easy at all. Its hard to see much choice here except to support this Mourinho and hope Pogba has a better year, Sanchez has a better year, Fred starts well, defence is settled . i'm hoping a few wins at the start will put jose in better form and boost players too.

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07 Aug 2018 00:36:22
A few quick thoughts lads.
The next couple of days are the biggest for this club in the last few seasons. We need some additions, who and in what position can be debated to the cows come home. Moruinho will know what he wants, and who he wants, so let's just see what happens. Ed002 said their could be movements and that is an opinion I trust.
If pogba and martial go, then move on. There will be a reason, they will be replaced if they go.
Let's not forget this has the makings of a great team. Fred looks quality, lukaku, lingard and Rashford will only get better. Lindelof and bailly are young, De Gea is still here and matic is a quality player. I still believe we have good players and I'll be honest if we need to see Angel gomes and Chong because we sell martial and pogba after the window closes then I will be more than happy.
Things may not be great, but this is Manchester United, no matter what the starting eleven may be, if they know what they're playing for then we always have a chance.
So no matter what happens between now and Friday let's get back behind the club we all love, let's get behind the manager and the players and see where it takes us.
Caolán.

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07 Aug 2018 07:41:51
Coalan, i don't want us to sell Pogba or Martial, but if they don't want to be here, then get rid of them. Ed002 has already told us Pogba never wanted to be here in the first place.
I would much rather see Chong and Gomes given a chance than two overpaid, pre madonnas turning up and going through the motions.

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07 Aug 2018 07:49:15
I agree, however both sre very young and the weight of expectation maybe too much too soon.
Signing William would st least mean you have a RW, who long term wouldn't block the path of Chong.

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07 Aug 2018 06:27:28
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 7th August 2018

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07 Aug 2018 00:17:59
I seen people mention rakatic in relation to a swap for pogba, rakatic is bang average and not the player he was a few years ago. Couldn't handle the premier league, considering he couldn't handle the world cup and modric covered for him.

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07 Aug 2018 00:26:09
He doesn’t have the legs for the premier league which I don’t think can be questioned.

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07 Aug 2018 00:48:42
I would take Modric though. Best midfielder around. Agree on Racitic.

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