Manchester United Banter Archive June 08 2015

08 Jun 2015 23:36:56
Currently in Paris with the missus only just seen Ed and Cavani with his agent in the Hilton hotel ! It's true is on his way to O.T gutted I'd of loved Big Ben

08 Jun 2015 23:47:07
I wouldn't be against it at all. He is a good finisher and leads the line well as you could see in Napoli. But he is played as a right winger for PSG and has to put up with Ibra, no wonder he doesn't score as much as he would like.

09 Jun 2015 06:15:17
Aha typical 5 year old type post. Sighting. Now waiting for taxi driver who picks him from air port

09 Jun 2015 06:43:25
I'm out of petrol lads! Sorry.

09 Jun 2015 07:57:02
I think cavani would be a awesome signing. Look at the patch when ibra wasnt playing for psg and cavani got played more central. He is quick and strong with a powerful shot. Would make a great addition. As for what united need. Well i believe rooney should take over from carrick. He has the passing ability and the engine. He has been training with scholes on his passing game and its worked. He would sure up the middle of the park and he is a dogged defender. He defends as much as our current defenders week in week out. Massive team player and i think he would love to be our midfield maestro.

09 Jun 2015 08:43:02
My uncle still has Snijdererer in the back of his cab somewhere between Manchester Airport and Carrington, so he can't get him. Don't want Cavani tbh, unless the price is right.

09 Jun 2015 10:30:04
anything under 30 millbion is a good bit of businesss anything over it is dear

09 Jun 2015 12:06:11
We could do an Arsenal Matas Beard, 30,000,001?? Is that too dear??

08 Jun 2015 22:06:26
Fir me, this summer we should go for Otamendi, Gundogan and Higuain. Good solid spine to the team. Decent CB, a midfielder who looks for the forward pass and a striker who'll put the ball in the net. 3 things we lacked last season.

08 Jun 2015 22:34:13
I would personally prefer Cavani as I think he would suit our style more but am I missing something? Isn't Rooney our striker and captain? I haven't seen talk of him getting sold and its quite obvious he can't play 38 games in CM so doesn't that mean if we are replacing Wazza isn't the replacement ment to be better?

This is a tough decision to make imo, as there are pro's and con's to both arguments.

08 Jun 2015 23:05:29
But with Falcao gone and a chance RVP will go, surely we'll need another striker. Especially with the added European games. I don't fancy going into the season with just Rooney and Wilson.

08 Jun 2015 23:12:54
I agree, but players like Higuin and Bemzema will not want to sign to sit on the bench, so who? Keep Hernandez? Is Rooney, Wilson and Hernandez enough?

If reports are to be believed we are seriously in for Benzema so what does that mean for Rooney? Will he play wide? CM?

08 Jun 2015 23:24:08
Behind ? Where he was when him and rvp was on fire

08 Jun 2015 23:33:51
I'd love Austin , James mc carthy , shawcross be a top and cheap summer , alves on a free and kederia as well

09 Jun 2015 01:02:50
Wiganred,

Are you a villa fan? If so I would agree those players would improve a team like Villa.

Also, Rooney and Rvp on fire. that must have been just before I started watching United 😊

09 Jun 2015 06:16:48
Chicharito is still on paper boys before wilson

09 Jun 2015 06:41:29
Agree with what you say about big names not wanting to sit on the bench. I just feel we need at least 2 top quality strikers to have a decent season.
I also think at times last season Rooney didn't fit into our style of play. With the possession football LVG is looking to play we would be better suited with a out and out goal scorer like Higuain, not a player who drops deep to pick up the ball.
It's a difficult one, as Rooney is our captain and knocking on the door door to become our record goalsorer.

09 Jun 2015 09:45:02
Honey badger when we won the title was rvp and Ronney not on fire with Ronney in 10 ? Short memory ?

09 Jun 2015 09:47:13
last two post every one took the bate quality thought this was a banter page ?

08 Jun 2015 17:07:24
Ed any interest from United in van dijk?? Or any other epl clubs? Specially when it's thought that Evans will depart

{Ed007's Note - Arsenal and Southampton both watched van Dijk at the end of the season and it was thought Sunderland's interest had ended when Advocaat left but with him returning it probably puts them back in the frame. Celtic are adamant that van Dijk's going nowhere which I take to mean that he won't be sold on the cheap.}

08 Jun 2015 19:05:32
Thanks ed. What do u think. Isn't he batter than what we have at the moment. A modern Ball playing defender

{Ed007's Note - He's definitely better than any Utd CB just now but I think what's putting people off is that he's never really been tested, even in the Europa League last year he never got out of 2nd/3rd gear. He just seems to stroll through games which is OK in Scotland but in England it's a different matter.
He only narrowly missed out on the Dutch World Cup squad and LvG told him that his time would come so it's not as if LVG doesn't know about him.}

09 Jun 2015 06:19:31
I hope LVG replaces Evans with dijk. Otamendi/hummers, smalling, Jones, dijk, rojo would be good backline

09 Jun 2015 10:16:28
I disagree Bond, I don't think he is better than all of Utd's CBs. Defending in the Scottish league isn't the same as the EPL, heck it isn't even the same as the Championship, no disrespect. Look at Boumsong for example. U give them Rojo or Smalling even then you will see a difference.

{Ed007's Note - What Scottish matches did you watch last season? And the only example you can come up with is the dodgy transfer of Boumsong 10 years ago, why not look at Andy Robertson at Hull?
There's not one Utd defender that would get in the Celtic starting XI just now and that's even with Denayer returning to City.}

09 Jun 2015 15:15:06
Maybe not enough, but i did catch a few games.
I wouldn't take any of these even as a bench warmer, Ambrose, Izaguirre, Matthews, City's reject Boyata, Lustig or Mulgrew the returnee! It's not as if they still have McNeill.
I however do like Stefan Johansen's style of play.

{Ed007's Note - Just as I thought then.}

09 Jun 2015 19:41:14
Ed, you wouldn't seriously take Izaquirre over Shaw, or Denayer over Smalling, Jones, Evans and Rojo. I would certainly take Van Dijk ahead of Evans, but not ahead of the other 3. Also, neither Lustig nor Matthews impressed me greatly in the few games I watched of the SPL.

{Ed007's Note - Of course I would take Izaguirre over Shaw, what's Shaw cost, £2 million a league appearance + his wages? Are you seriously trying to tell me Shaw had a better season than Izaguirre?
As for Smalling, I'd take Lee McCulloch over him, he's a complete waste of a jersey and hopefully he'll end up out the door with the other duds like Cleverley and Welbeck. Smalling isn't even in the top 20 CBs in the EPL and would struggle to get in a top 100 throughout Europe, and Jones is even worse than Smalling!}

10 Jun 2015 09:29:53
U seem to be Very objective today :P
By your argument, you will also take Johansen over Bale, looking at the Cost involved.

{Ed007's Note - Where did I say that?}

10 Jun 2015 10:27:06
When U compared Izaguirre to Shaw on cost basis.

08 Jun 2015 16:25:48
Anyone catch Hugo Lloris' comments today? I know it's probably the way he was asked but maybe he has an eye on DDG spot.

08 Jun 2015 13:59:06
dunno why everyone is hyping up vidal yes he is a good player and has experience in the champions league but was a liability for juve i'd much prefer marchiesio.

also as a striker why not try and get icardi or immobile they are cheaper options and younger with a lot of potential

08 Jun 2015 14:25:54
Icardi is unavailable for transfer (which the Ed has stated countless times) and as for Immobile, well, he is just pure rotten.

08 Jun 2015 14:41:30
I'd also prefer an established Striker to come in and give Wilson who is even younger and has even more potential then those two a chance in the first team squad.

08 Jun 2015 14:47:31
I'm guessing you're basing this off of one game against one of the best teams ever ay Gaz?

08 Jun 2015 15:36:25
What I liked about Vidal in the Barcelona game was that he got stuck in. He made it harder for the opponents to dwell on the ball, and contributed to what was a game that hung in the balance until Barca's second. In the end the difference in the teams was Barca's formidable front three.

Going back to the second game against RM I thought he, rather than Pogba, was the midfield driving force.

If he played with that heart and tenaciousness in the EPL he would be an asset, and compared to the lesser quality of opposition would almost certainly shine. We could use him.

08 Jun 2015 16:01:37
vidal was a liability because of the amount of challenges he was making whilst being on a yellow, but how many players in our current squad are willing to make all the challenges vidal made?

we are crying out for a midfielder that likes to do what vidal does not one of our midfielder's do the dirty stuff and are willing to make challenges often enough.

its all well and good having a nice bunch of nice playing players, but vidal would add a bit of grit and steal that we need when we come across teams more physical.

08 Jun 2015 16:32:50
immobile is a very good player with a lot of potential aswell -JMB

I think wilson as good as it is to train with the first team should maybe get loaned to a prem team to get regualer games in the prem but agree he has a lot to give united - Ports

No i'm basing this on the fact that he had a job to do for juve and he didn't do it and every time I've watched them he has chased around after the ball. much better centre midfeilders out there that can do just as good a job as him and be cheaper. Schneiderlin for one would do better and would be cheaper to. or the likes of Clement Grenier, Ezequiel Cirigliano, Younes Belhanda, Victor Wanyama.

what you also have to realise is we are going to need atleast 2 centre mids as currently we look lost without carrick

08 Jun 2015 16:47:12
i agree that we need a player willing to put his body on the line but if he had been sent off juve would have been ruined. There was a couple where i think the ref was lenient on him aswell. I just feel there are a lot of players that can do that job without the massive pricetag and wages

remember roy keane came from ireland and cost us pennies so we don't need to spend in excess of 30-40 million for vidal when we could spend 20 and get someone that is able to to that job

08 Jun 2015 17:50:33
Roy Keane cost us a British record transfer fee when we signed him. hardly pennies

08 Jun 2015 19:20:40
But at 3.25 million he gave most of his career to united. Vidal isn't worth breaking our new transfer record for and we will only get him for 3 or 4 years max. Getting a younger player that can do the same job woulf be more beneficial

08 Jun 2015 19:51:47
Haha that is pure gold, Keane costing pennies and coming from Ireland? Signed from Forest mate

08 Jun 2015 20:59:28
What are you talking about gaz? Roy Keane cost an arm and a leg at the time. Record fee we paid for him.

09 Jun 2015 10:31:56
alright guys chill out :-)

all i'm saying is that we shouldn't pay 30-40 million for a player that will only give us 3 years or 4 years when there's players out there that can do that job just aswell and are younger.

09 Jun 2015 12:27:23
If someone said to me you will win the league or champ league but have to pay 30 or 40 mil on 1 player every year and won't be able to use him again i say money well spent becasuse winning these competitions is how you grow and attract names.

08 Jun 2015 12:12:47
In this post I will mention names that I really like and I think it should be a priority for United to sign one or two of these. Guarin, Witsel, Nainggolan, Vidal, Wijnaldum. Does United have SERIOUS interest in any of those ?! Eds answers will be appreciated.

08 Jun 2015 13:03:38
Guarin and Witsel are extremely overrated, I'd take the others however. Vidal should be top priority imo, world class player that will improve us 10 fold

09 Jun 2015 12:33:26
I think Witsel is underrated and would more than do a job in our league. Better than Fellaini on the ball strong physical presence. He could do the Carrick role easily as he can do the passing side but add to it with his physical side.

08 Jun 2015 10:54:51
Looks like Liverpool have signed up Danny Ing's to add to Milner in their quest for midtable mediocrity. It will be a fine day when we bring in a WC striker like the Benz and a WC midfield man like Vidal etc.

Maybe then the gulf in size and stature of both clubs will be noticeable enough for the fans of Liverpool FC to fully understand they are no longer a top team.

08 Jun 2015 11:22:07
Ings wouldn't be a bad signing if they already had a few top quality strikers. The problem is that Sturridge will be injured for 50% of the season and Balotelli couldn't care less. So Ings will have to be their first choice striker for a considerable portion of the year. Add to that the imminent loss of Sterling and their difficulty in attracting top quality players, and I can't see them improving on this season's position.

Milner is a step up from Gerrard though.

08 Jun 2015 11:51:05
I agree with you Danny. My point is that the players they have signed would be merely squad players for us but will be first team stars for them. The gulf in quality will be huge come the end of September in my opinion.

08 Jun 2015 12:04:56
Easy there jmb
We haven't exactly been successful in the transfer market ourselves. Just because we spent doesn't mean we got the right players. Same goes for this year. If we don't get our targets, we may get desperate and sign the wrong-ish players.

08 Jun 2015 12:30:31
Milner.ings.sterling.sturridge. fantastic acronym for a strikeforce

08 Jun 2015 13:05:15
Sterling is leaving so they are going backwards. Milner is a good honest player.

08 Jun 2015 13:27:53
Imightbesomeone- I personally can't imagine that with us looking to recapture the league next season we will bring in a lesser player than Ings or Milner to go straight into the first team.

08 Jun 2015 13:53:42
i rate Milner very highly, had he not played for all our rivals I'm sure a lot more on this page would do the same.

08 Jun 2015 14:01:17
Milner is an O'Shea for midfield: versatile, hard working and fairly consistent. He would be a good addition to any squad. The issue, as JMB has highlighted, is that Liverpool are signing him as a key player for their team. I can't think of many teams top teams that would see Milner as a first choice winger or midfielder. Sold but unspectacular reads the report card.

08 Jun 2015 14:26:46
Danny's got it!

08 Jun 2015 15:48:43
Milner is a Jack of all trades but master of none.

A good honest player but no more than a squad player at a top club at best.

08 Jun 2015 09:44:32
This site really really really needs ed002 back

08 Jun 2015 11:49:43
Yes please

08 Jun 2015 16:13:19
Yes I'm sure she misses the constant asking of the same question by some about players she has just let us have updates of interest on. Ed002 always takes a break from our page during the transfer period because I expect are busy doing what they do for an actual living. I do have an axe to grind with duggo Douglas or whoever who I think is a troll who was another to p**s off ed002 a couple of weeks ago with a pathetic question when ed002 briefly appeared. Can we not have a flagging system for some posters ed who might just go on to pages to cause trouble and ruin it for others? I know it will probably be to time consuming to monitor the traffic though. Or if enough of us highlighted particular posters could they be banned via their username or ip address? Again I know it's a bit tricky.