Manchester United Banter Archive February 09 2013

09 Feb 2013 23:25:32
Been a great say in the prem today with city losing, not just to lose but get completely outplayed and deservedly saints claim the points.

Also hw well did bale play today? Turning into a beast! Scoring for fun and that turn of pace is a brilliant sight to behold, the prem is a better place for him.

Mainly i'm looking forward to everton a lot tomorrow, ill still go for 3-1 United, prediction from earlier

Safwetrust87

09 Feb 2013 21:59:17
Interesting Question to the united fans. Bale is seen by some spectators as good or if not better than ronaldo. what's your views on the subject seeing as couldn't praise the great ronaldo highly enough?

Big Al {Ed004's Note - Not as good IMO closest player to him in the style of play he uses}

Bale couldn't lace his boots!

Caolán.

Nowhere near. He is closer to Nani than he is to Ronaldo.

Pathetic comparison.

Sydney!

I don't know why is it easy for people to compare to Ronaldo that easy.

You have be really in love with Bale to even have the thought of thinking that he plays like ronaldo.

Let me know what your taking

Lol

Singh

Bale isn't as goodas Ronnybut he would still be awesome for us, he shat his netby not joining when he had his chance. Let him have the mediocrity of playing for spurs

Pardoe

09 Feb 2013 21:48:20
ok strongest team 2moro plz, let's get 12 points clear, the big playes can play twice in 3 days, then let's wot we can do the sat after that with a few players rested for the FA cup against Reading at OT
Chris the REDman

I'd like to see this too but it isn't going to happen. Not 100% sure what people think the strongest team is anyway, I reckon if you asked everyone on here to name the strongest 11 we would get 18 or 19 players on the list. We have almost 2 players for every position.

Let's hope fergie gets the balance right tomorrow and we scrape a win and also give ourselves every chance of beating Madrid on Wednesday. That is one of the biggest matches in recent years, we have to be fully prepared in my opinion.

GDS

09 Feb 2013 20:48:12
3-1 real madrid. Madrid will boss the midfield.

Big Al

Your right this results totally dictates what the situation will be over the two legs we have to play. Absolute genius. I'm sure our style of play will be designed to deal wit there midfield as best we can if we can isolate two of there midfield players they will try play down the wings which could suit them but could also give us the chance to drop deep an wit constant attacks on the break supplying RVP ASAP we can steal some goals an stun them. I am worried for RVP cause Ramos an pepe seem heavy handed an I think we could see cynical tackles known he could miss the second leg I really hope I'm wrong but this is all they are playing for. JM wants it so bad as does ronaldo as he could happily move on be it to us or not. We need to be heavy handed some of them are known for diving so I think we can get away wit some challenges if the ref is swayed by some early dive which there is sure to be. Without tryin to sound deluded I really see us going tru an I'm excited to see some reactions on this site some of our own fan right us of for no good reason at all. For F**k sake have some faith.

CAIN

09 Feb 2013 20:39:24
Manchester City are targetting Begovic for a summer transfer. watch this space

-David De Gea

09 Feb 2013 20:24:08
'Give a man a reputation as an early riser and that man can sleep til noon' - Mark Twain.

TK-Red

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Possibly the best post on here for a while TK, summed up what I was saying, hart had a reputation as a top keeper, despite the fact he has been worse than DDG pretty much all season and the mistake today was 10 times worse and more obvious than any mistake DDG has made all season, but the commentators say it is totally out of character and how great Hart has been.

GDS

I'm not entirely sure of the stats but I would bet that Joe Hart's mistakes, that have directly led to goals this season, have cost City more points than DDG's have cost United but of course the media won't report that, for reasons I'm yet to figure out. We just have to hope that DDG is being told the right things by SAF and that he doesn't get disheartened and decide to go back to Spain as I think, 5 years down the line, we would be talking about one that got away.

TK-Red

De Gea has only made one mistake this season which has directly led to a goal in the premier league.

Only one, I can think of several.

AJH

09 Feb 2013 19:51:01
Saints were excellent against us, and were due a big win. Fantastic for us that they've got that against Citeh!

Got to get 3 tomorrow to hammer this home, real can be a cagey defensive hit them on the break affair. But tomorrow we need to put down a marker for the premier league. We will be using the squad, they need to step up.

DodgyBanter

Oh dear, Ronny hat trick to warm up for us : /

DodgyBanter

09 Feb 2013 19:36:59
I know people will probably disagree but with city losing today I think we can afford a draw, still a point gained I think we should play this team tomorrow (which is capable of winning) :

lindegaard, rafael, smalling, evans, buttner, giggs, scholes, anderson, nani, kagawa, hernandez.

and for RM:

de gea, rafael/jones, rio, vidic, evra, young, carrick, cleverley, valencia/welbeck, rooney, RVP

Giggs and Scholes shouldn't play toether they would get torn apart.

Also we should always go out to win

Mad Hatter

We won't play that team but we will give RVP a rest I think along with a few others, maybe Rafael with Ronaldo just around the corner. can't wait for Wednesday, not had that proper european night feeling for a few years. Even if we go out they will be two brilliant games and I think we will just nick it.

Brendan {Ed004's Note - I wonder if jones will play to help Rafael with Ronaldo}

De gea
rafael smallings evans buttner

nani andersson cleverley wellbeck

kagawa

hernandez {Ed004's Note - I wouldn't mind seeing that. Though if Fellaini is playing I think Vidic and Rio along with Jones is a must}

De gea

rafael ferd vidic evra

jones carrick kagawa


rooney

hernandez v persie

I think the emphasis should be on the league get the 3 points and then worry about the Madrid game.

Jamal

No name

No disrespect but that team won't get us any points IMO

Need to capitalise on city losing, 12 points clear would be too much for them, we won't lose 4-5 games! Let Madrid sort itself out, players wanna play in these big matches! No messing about full team!

Giants14

I agree with ed. can see jones in the middle the same as at spurs.

he can then drift out right and help raf with ron.

think we will play this team v madrid


______ De Gea

Raf _ Vidic _ Rio _ Evra

______ Carrick

___ Jones _ Cleverly

Rooney _ RVP _ Kagawa


and this one tomorrow.


________ De Gea

Vel _ Evans_ Smalling_ Buttner

Nani_ Ando _ Scholes _ Young

_ Hernandez _ Wellbeck


Oxred

Ox,

Scholes has a knee injury and will not be ready until the reading game at least.

GDS

09 Feb 2013 19:30:49
City were bad today. If we get the 3 points tomorrow although anything can happen as we know. I can't see us dropping 12 points and city dropping 0

GD

"City were bad today" and UTD were very lucky to get 3 points against Saints. Give some credit mate, Saints are starting to show what they are capable of and even with 3 first team players out through injury today out fought and out played City. They are going to be a real handfull for any team between now and the end of the season, and a few teams will get a real pasting from them.

But although saints were very good today city were still bad and city are our main rivals and concern for the league. Which is why I pointed out that they were bad. Not taking nothing away from Southampton am I really. Everyone knows you have to play well to beat a top team, goes without saying

GD

09 Feb 2013 19:25:50
The City result is very worrying, if they continue like this they may have to sack Mancini and hire a real manager.

Danny Pughnited

09 Feb 2013 19:00:25
Just a thought on hart having a shocking game if that was de gea everyone would be slating him can't see hart getting same abuse him been England's number one

The commentary 'he's dropped below his usual very high standards' would suggest commentators just forget all the mistakes he ever makes and every one is the first one.

I haven't seen Dave make a mistake like the one today, it was more like taibi!

GDS

I agree if de gea performed like hart has recently he would get slaughtered in the press

as for england I think forster or butland should be given a shot between the sticks, just leave hart with his embarrassing shampoo adverts

hopefully this time tomorrow we will be 12 points clear

dags

Very good point GDS.

Nizza

'Give a man a reputation as an early riser and that man can sleep til noon' - Mark Twain.

TK-Red

09 Feb 2013 18:20:19
Martin Atkinson = Most cowardly referee.

This is the worst type of referee.

Sydney! {Ed004's Note - that was a disgrace decision}

We shouldn't be surprised. He has been a bottler for a long time now. How he is constantly given Premier League games is beyond me.

TK-Red

What happened? Missing the match

Atkinson had his whistle in his mouth ready to blow for a City penalty on the 83rd minute, but no City players pleaded for it.

Sydney!

09 Feb 2013 17:35:36
Lothar Matthäus claims that Lewandowski to Bayern is all but done as well I think we may have missed out on Lewondowski.

MANRED

If you snooze, you lose. United seem to have lost one there if Lothar is correct.

Sydney!

Well it's lucky we still have RVP, Rooney, Hernandez and Wlbeck!

Gav

I won't be really bothered to be honest. And we have Will Keane to come back. We should be ok!

Deeps.

I've said many a time he wasn't needed. Yes good player but most people on here only seemed to be saying he was a must have because of his potential low price due to his expiring contract. If he had 4 years left and would cost 25-30 million Euro's would anyone be so keen on him with Rooney, van Persie and Hernandez all in the squad? Mort

09 Feb 2013 16:31:15
John Cofie has scored for Notts County in his debut, while Petrucci also scored!


T-O-I

09 Feb 2013 14:48:48
everybody raving about wilshere in england match against brazil but I think cleverley was just as good

justpij. . . . . . Hey Kids now doesn't this just go to show that recreational drugs are not good for you. Justpij you need some help and counciling for you are hallucinating or just delusional. Don't worry you are not the first let's face it the Beatles decided to let Ringo sing on a track so it affects even the best just ease down on it. I AM KLOOT

09 Feb 2013 16:05:44
i'm surprised you like the beatles being as their scousers. Thought happy mondays would have been a better manchester based example.

I have never understood the whole Beatles thing and never will, they wouldn't have made it in this day and age from scratch. . Bunch of old crooners if you ask me. .

09 Feb 2013 12:51:23
Watched the watford vs palace match yesterday nd I must say the Zaha dude is one crazy dribble freak almost all of his touches is all about dribble. I think we gat it right there

09 Feb 2013 13:40:01
As long as it doesn't get coached out of him.

09 Feb 2013 12:07:07
Hope we don't take everton too lightly tomorrow, I feel a lot of goals in this match and Everton will be really up for it,

I do however think we willlbe too strong for them and come good in the end,

Predictions anyone?

Mine is 3-1 united

Safwetrust87

2-0 to United.

-JakeW

I predict a narrow 2-1 to us, I see Everton putting up a fight.


T-O-I

09 Feb 2013 08:36:16
Morning Gents

Just wanted to refer some of you to an interesting article in one of the national newspapers today about Pogba. Interesting reading to those who think he was money grabbing.

Those like me who watched him play for our reserves could see he was ready yet Fergie preferred to resign Scholes than give him a run, leading him to realise he wasn't valued by Ferguson and had had promises broken.

I Love Fergie. but he got this one wrong, and we will end up paying the price. probably 20 million or more in the transfer market. I for one think this will be seen as his biggest mistake in the last/ next 10 years. When did Scholes himself, Beckham, Giggs make thir debuts, and more recently for other teams the likes of Bale and Wiltshire make their debuts.

It does seem as he has aged Fergie has lost his willingness to blood quality young players.

#disappointed

Red Bear

We still going on at this? He's gone get over it. It's been made public that the season scholes came back pogba was already looking for another club, would you prefer that fergie played him, we saw how great he was, then he still left, because that is pretty much what would have happened. We aren't doing too badly without him are we?

GDS

Agreed. He even didn't use him when fletcher was out. That shows how good you value your players. Or keep track of your youth squad.

Rodio17

09 Feb 2013 09:52:36
Said that all along. Pogba is special. Still, plenty more fish in the sea.

Whistler.

09 Feb 2013 10:18:59
Who cares about Pogba? I for one am sick of hearing about him. Is this how its going to be for the next ten years? Everytime he steps foot on a pitch we're flooded with adoring Pogbaites bashing Fergie. I don't know the full story of what happened. Nor do you. Or anyone else on this site. We do know Fergie. And we know the agent. They know the full story and knowing them we can guess. You talk about the Fledglings. Well apart from Giggs they all made debuts in early twenties. They also had been at the club for far longer than Pogba had. Scholes, Butt and the Nevilles were born in the greater Manchester area. Giggs had lived in Manchester most of his life. Being local they were more loyal. Beckham, Butt and the Nevilles grew up as United fans. Again it gave them loyalty. Pogba wasn't from Manchester. He wasn't a United fan. He had no loyalty to Le Havre so why should he have any loyalty to us? Maybe he should have played more last season. But his agent had already been playing up since summer. You've got a young impressionable player, who's already ditched one club as a teenager, with a greedy agent eyeing a big pay day in his ear constantly. The lad was always going to leave no matter what we did or offered because Pogba leaving suited the agent. End of the day he's gone, United remain as ever. We've survived better and more famous players leaving. We've survived managers going. And in this week of all weeks we've survived the loss of our greatest ever team. I'm sure it'll hurt you and many others watching Pogba go on to have a good career knowing he could have had a great one here. But we'll survive and go on its what we do, even if it does cost us twenty million. We have several potentially great kids working their way up. We have bigger things to worry about. So for once and for all can we leave Pogba in the past where he belongs and concentrate on the present and future. Leave the dwelling on the past to the scousers. MrE

GDS - that's my view as well, I think he was always going to go.

Mort

GDS and Mort are correct IMO. We can whine about it as much as we like (he is a top talent no doubt) but he was always leaving and the manager knew that full well. Regardless of whether it was over money or not. So people just need to get over it and move on.

Gav

Pogba was always going, he will be a journeyman in the Zlatan mould probably slating clubs after he leaves. No class.

Supasub

Supasub, correct mate. He will hop around club to club like Balotelli and Zlatan while his agent milks every last drop from him. This is Mino in a nutshell. Adebayor is a similar type, he too goes club to club collecting the dough. As soon as he moved to Spurs he stopped putting the effort in.

Sydney!

Ientioned it because it was in a national newspaper today. No need to jump down my throat. Also you dismiss my point saying only the player and or agent will ever know then go on to assert you 'know' his agent was touting him to other clubs.

Unless you work for one you don't know.

Can't you see the hypocrasy in that?

And Sydney you watch the reserves or I thought you did. To call him a journeyman player whilst talking up other youngsters in our reserves who weren't and aren't anywhere near to his quality is ridiculous.

I'm a passionate united fan but I don't let that make me myopic in how I view a player or other clubs.

It's what so many of us on here say about Liverpool fans. I thought better of most of you.

Red Bear {Ed002's Note - Pogba was following advice provided by a couple of people - one of which, let's call him an "associate", manoeuvred the move to Turin.}

Red Bear, I am not sure what you are talking about? Pogba is a magnificent player, will be the best midfielder in the world within a few years. I said that when he was a United player and I have said that when not a United player.

I also agree that none of our academy have a patch on him. Januzaj is closest mind.

Sydney!

Agree Januzzaj looks good but. Personally think Dhaeli could be better.

Wilson up top also looks excellent. Even better than will keane.

09 Feb 2013 03:14:04
everybody raving about wilshere in england match against brazil but I think cleverley was just as good

justpij

09 Feb 2013 09:26:37
Take out the j's, mix it up, put a D on the end and your there!

Stoner

Anderson at the start of last season was playing well.

Carrick this season has had his best seaosn at United for years.

Wilshire the other night had his best gane this season.

Whats the connection?

They have all had Cleverley as a midifeld partner. Its no coincidence surely. Cleverley helps others to have good games by working hard and making space, always being available to take the ball and enabling players like Anderson or Wilshire to push on.

No the lads never going to be Messi, but he's had a good solid season. People moaned he doesn't pass forwards or score goals, but he's started doing this. I'm mot sure what else the guy needs to do to get his OWN clubs fans off his back.

Stoner you'd best hope that you guys win a trophy soon or Wenger is allowd to spend some money or ambition and playing for England with guys who win things is going to turn Jacks head.

Mort

09 Feb 2013 11:57:37
Mort,

Nothing I think, want, post or any other will be a determening factor in what Jack does in his career.

There are any number of players that could do what Clevs does, it is what the others do that make them special. (I'm not slating Clevs just answering your point).

Stoner

09 Feb 2013 13:08:53
Stoner you keep on underestimating Tom. Ferguson and Hodgson keep picking him. Mort