Manchester United Banter Archive January 09 2015

09 Jan 2015 21:59:21
The metro is reporting that "Real Madrid have accepted a £150million bid for Gareth Bale from Manchester United" unconfirmed of course .hhaha 😂😂😂

That's probably 2.5 times more than he's actually worth. Unless it's including his salary, agent fees etc. There's no way RM will make a profit on him. It will be a loss for sure if he's sold this summer.

The figures being bandied about for footballers atm is ludicrous it's gone insane . I even saw a tweet earlier asking what Lee Trundle would be worth in this market with a genuine reply of £, 25million I think that says it all !!

Only 150 :) that is such a bargain lol Not in our lifetime.

09 Jan 2015 16:07:27
What is the situation with injuries?
LvG: “I’m very happy with your question because we have only one player injured. Can you believe it? Only one. I have to select for the first team in my career at Manchester United the eleven and the eighteen players.”

Glad to hear that only ashley young is injured. I hope lvg scrap 3-5-2 soon.

There will be a few who need to get match fit but it will be fascinating to see who LVG thinks is the 1st choices. Does he rate Shaw and Rafael? If the midfield is fit, do we continue to play Rooney and Mata bearing in mind Rooney is covering for injuries and also accommodating Falcao.

It's wonderful news finally we may see the football we want to see and the manager will give those with doubts( and I count myself in that group) something to cheer about rather than gripe .

I say sack LVT and bring Moyes back!!😁

09 Jan 2015 12:17:00
Could you tell us if utd are in discussions with any players at the moment please ed?

{Ed002's Note - I have explained where there is interest - I am not going to get in to blow-by-blow accounts as I have neither the time nor inclination.}

Who are we interested in ed

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

The ed did a right up a couple of days ago under the mats hummels story on the rumours page a pro for Hummels as well is he speaks fluent english so wouldn't have to learn a new language

Cheers Beard

09 Jan 2015 08:32:26
My Friends around old Trafford Have said ever banega has been mentioned and could be one for the summer

Any updates On his situation ED would be grateful

Cheers

{Ed002's Note - There is no "situation" - he has only just moved to Sevilla and Manchester Unite have shown no interest.}

09 Jan 2015 10:36:45
The literal translation of his name is John Kills. My girlfriend refers to him as Killer John.

Quality work by your girlfriend Andrew. My wife thought Banega was a type of fruit.

09 Jan 2015 03:57:16
Professor Rob Wilson of the Sheffield Hallam Univeristy one of the most intelligent folk I have had the privilege of being in a lecture room with has stated that only Man Utd and R. Madrid have the financial capabilities in regards to the FFP regulations to sign Leo Messi. As Barcelona will want most (if not all) the cash upfront (as we demanded with Ronaldo) it rules almost every club out of a deal of this magnitude.

I am not saying for one minute that I would like to see us sign Messi as I don't, but the FFP regulations are making it tougher for clubs like City, PSG and Chelsea to buy whoever they like with their independent financial muscle. Having said that by ruling so many clubs out of this type of transfer could be a violation on a players right to gain employment elsewhere. Interesting to say the least.

I doubt very much that FFP will fail on that basis.

I also doubt that any team can afford the sort of ridiculous money being talked about for Messi, irrespective of FFP.

Shawing what do you mean by fail?

I think the FFP is fantastic for the game but alas in the modern footballing world some superstars are valued incredibly overpriced. Maybe a possible solution would be to implement a rule stating that a club can sign one player in the summer transfer window that is out of FFP conditions, much like the MLS have three mega players who don't count towards their salary cap. Just a thought.

Putting FFP aside, the only clubs that could afford the figures being quoted are those backed by rich owners. In the EPL that would be Chelsea and City.

On a separate note, are Juanmatasbeard and Matasbeard the same person?

Why would Barca want the money up front when they a re serving a transfer ban?
AJH,
I don't think so, didn't JuanMatasbeard say that he was a new poster here?

And you said "not that you want Messi"??
Why wouldn't we want Messi at United? I will go to barca and carry him on my back to bring him here! !

I had no idea there was another matasbeard, the guy obviously has good taste. But no I am a new poster and have been enjoying the insights of you lot.

AJH if you had 2 cars and were willing to sell your favourite one even though you had no intention of buying a new one for a while would you settle for monthly instalments from a prospective buyer? Plus these Barca instalments will be over the course of many moons not several months.

Nomidfield I am not saying Messi is not a fine player, he is the creme de la creme of football talent but the signature of Messi poses many problems. His transfer fee will be astronomical, his wages will obliterate our wage budget and most of all fitting him into our team will be incredibly difficult. The truth is Messi is all about Messi and Van Gaal is all about the team. He would cripple our finances, stagnate our youth development, possibly bring unwarranted media attention (tax scandal, team mates falling out, coaches not liking his selfishness) and may cause unrest amongst our squad.

He is a marvel of a player, mercurial and beautiful on the ball but he in my opinion would be troublesome for our current set up.

At £170 million and probably £400k in wages per week I doubt that even we could afford him. We would have to have a massive clear out and have a very small squad indeed to lower the wage bill to as little as possible.

It will never happen.

And I pray it doesn't for those reasons Fresh.

I disagree that we would struggle to fit him in. He would be our central striker and Rooney would move to an attacking midfielder. So that wouldn't be a problem. His arrival could cause problems though, mainly money problems. The lads would welcome him though as I can't see players like Rooney etc not wanting to play with Messi.

09 Jan 2015 14:09:09
Messi would be lost playing as a central striker in the Prem.

09 Jan 2015 14:35:01
Given our clubs fan base and commercial revenues I don't believe accommodating messi would be that problematic. I suspect we would simply give him a larger share of his image rights.

If you believe the media, ronaldo's shirt sale have paid his transfer fee and wages several times over since he signed for Madrid.

I also believe messi would insist on the bal being played forward quicker which I think we would all agree we need to do. He also has the ability to break down the load the box defensive teams we have struggled against so far this season.

Do I think he is worth the money being mentioned? No

Do I think we will sign him? Never

What I meant by "fail" is to be found o be contrary to the law and therefore invalid.

FFP is great if it helps prevent bankruptcies by overspending on players, but for the most part, at the moment, all it does is shift the balance of transfer power back to clubs with higher natural revenues and away from those who have bigger sugar daddies. i.e back to United, Real, Barcelona, and Bayern, and away from PSG, Monaco, City and to a lesser extent now, Chelsea.

It really isn't doing or going to do anything to promote equality between teams, or break the oligopoly of success.