Manchester United Banter Archive July 09 2015

09 Jul 2015 22:20:04
Is it true PSG have bid for ADM

10 Jul 2015 00:38:57
Nope, I love the fact that now there restrictions have been lifted it automatically means di maria is off.

United and dimaria have both said he is going knowhere

10 Jul 2015 02:00:50
Spb, or Eds, why is Di Maria off because their restrictions have been lifted? I can't say I have anything about the terms of the restrictions have been lifted, or the conditions of UEFA doing so, but I would assume if there are no restrictions on PSG spending, it would be easier for them to sign Di Maria.

09 Jul 2015 21:07:48
Have people forgot that last week di maria came out saying he wanted to stay and prove why we bought him. He just wants to play! If he goes it's not because he want to its because lvg wants rid and if lvg wants rid of a player he bought for a club record after one season which he struggled to settle in then my thoughts thoughts about him and probably beasts and maybe the not so real KLOOTs feelings are correct

09 Jul 2015 21:15:55
The general notion as was pointed out earlier on is he may not have directly been LVG choice instead a statement purchase by the club. If this is true then he needs to build his own team and if he wants out and we can recoup anywhere near our outlay then it is what it is.
My sentiments mirror your own though, l too would be dissapointed to see him go especially after his recent statement.

09 Jul 2015 22:50:36
Pep. Your defeated already. I personally think that when the chips were down last season, we were the better team against the Chelseas, citehs, Arsenals, Pools etc. Maybe we needed more time to keep some fluency against the lower teams.
On the whole I admit we were found wanting against the so called lesser teams, but our current crop still don't know each other enough to expect certain runs and covers etc.
We were spoilt by Becks, Scholes, Nevs, Giggs era as those boys knew each other inside out and were all there to keep that impetus in the team. Along with the odd Keane, or Cantona to help brood these younger boys.
To an extent, I'd go as far as say Fergie was a very lucky man to have such lasting chemistry. Now that it's gone, we have to accept that a new era is not just going to be handed to us on a plate. There will be trial and error. And at the very least (at high risk of sounding scouse) transition.

I like a joke about the glazers the same as any man. But do I blame them for what they are doing?? No, do I believe a mutiny against them will only harm us in the long run aswell as the short. Yes.
They aren't doing too bad, in my opinion. We are way more commercial than ever now, and that only sets solid foundations for the next 100 years, not just 10.

Do wear that anticipated Adidas shirt with pride and watch some more highs and occasional lows next season. But be sure of this, we ain't going away. And we will be strong to European heights within a couple of years.
Don't forget all Europe's big teams get these transitions.
I've seen it EVERYWHERE in my 35 yrs.

😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈

09 Jul 2015 23:24:47
We haven't progressed in 2 years, we have stagnated. Just because things are changing it doesn't mean they are always for the best.

We still don't know our system, our players, if our manager is the real deal, if Woody knows what he is doing. Basically since SAF left all I have seen is a rapid decline in football quality, millions wasted in the transfer market and a club acting out of desperation rather than any master plan!

We have the wrong manager for the transition. He is old school and not of the Utd mentality which everyone fell in love with. We have the tools to build something amazing, but we are wasting this opportunity.

09 Jul 2015 23:25:22
So Patzi there we have it you don't believe that the Glazers are doing too bad. City's owners have ploughed a billion into the club and surrounding areas, the Glazers have taken a billion out of our club without putting one single penny of their own in. Evil men will always be able to do their will whilst good men just stand back and watch.

09 Jul 2015 23:51:15
Beast ,
We had the wrong man for the transition right after SAF retired and wasted a year and made what was always going to be a difficult situation a lot more difficult . To think now that the powers that be at United could ever have thought that replacing one of the most successful managers ever with a decent enough manager who'd never won a thing is mind boggling . ,,,something akin to replacing Paul Scholes with Tom Cleverley

09 Jul 2015 23:58:02
I've been rumbled. Patzi AKA Joel

09 Jul 2015 23:58:42
Maybe it is u kloot

10 Jul 2015 00:41:55
People still think Giggs should take over!!??😨😵😱

Gary Neville has proved himself to be a real shrewd football brain. 😆😕

10 Jul 2015 01:04:38
I don't think it was just fergie leaving.I think gill should have stayed for atleast one more year that was the problem,too much change at once.

09 Jul 2015 23:30:24
No debate?. That was straight down the Glazer trail boys. Tell me I'm mad or something. Just don't be silent it sets off my bipolar flirtation
😠😆😠😆😠😆

10 Jul 2015 07:25:08
You lot went off on a bit of tangent didn't you! My initial point was questioning lvg as the man to take us forward! Also a lack of understanding about why he'd be willing to sell adm! Doesn't make any sense

10 Jul 2015 08:15:45
But how do u know he wants to sell ADM, is it possible he just benched him because he was playing shite every game?. Old school, just because he is ADM doesn't mean he gets to play. In fact the often cringe worthy Young was outshining ADM.
It was just a gigantic kick up the arse, of which he needed.
Di Maria will stay and achieve his worth, the press are clutching at straws.

👌

09 Jul 2015 20:44:02
Right i I haven't posted in ages and most of you won't even remember me! But I'm back because I love the banter side of things and get intrigued in the rumour debates.
Now, i was reading Levys comments not thinking much of it, but he mentioned that he will finish transfer business towards the end of the window. First thoughts was they want to get the tour out the way then bring players in, but then I was thinking maybe he is waiting for the sale of Kane, we have shown obvious interest so it just sprung to my mind. I may be wrong but that was first thoughts.

09 Jul 2015 21:30:44
Spurs will be in a right mess if they were to sell Kane, adabayor is shocking soldado wants out lamela attracting interest from Italy I just can't see how they could even entertain selling him.

09 Jul 2015 21:47:59
Good to see you back mate. I think you may be right, and with the departure of RVP it looks inevitable that a new striker is coming in. And Kane is the player we've shown interest in. Mitrovic has also been mentioned by ed002

09 Jul 2015 22:19:36
Welcome back Trev the Red

10 Jul 2015 01:21:54
Thank you herbie! Glad to be back

09 Jul 2015 20:08:23
Not transfer related but there is great piece by Andy Mitten on espnfc.com. Great insight on why we are not producing top quality youth products these days.

09 Jul 2015 20:32:37
Read that earlier, worrying that lads are choosing to go to city's academy over ours, maybe time to invest in better facilities?

09 Jul 2015 20:59:05
A good piece and a bit worrying

09 Jul 2015 21:01:09
Who, England in general, or us?

09 Jul 2015 19:41:23
Do people think it's either schweinsteiger or schneiderlin?

I think it's schweinsteiger and schneiderlin were after.

Just wondering other peoples views on this. Hasn't lvg said he wants a Dm and cm?

09 Jul 2015 20:10:37
Think we after both but would be happy with either. Either would improve us a lot

09 Jul 2015 20:07:09
I think it's probably both, I'm not sure where this leaves Blind though, he seems to be a preferred player.

Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Carrick, Herrera, Blind, Mata, Fellaini and potentially Rooney also.

I don't think Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin would be dropped and I i'm not sure Blind would be either.

Suggestions of a return to 3-5-2 have been going around though, so perhaps we may see Blind at LWB with Herrera, Schneiderlin, Carrick/Schweinsteiger?

09 Jul 2015 20:09:23
I'd take both but we must secure Schniederlin. He would be our future.

09 Jul 2015 20:19:32
To compete for titles and cups we need both and along with them two central defenders if evans is going as our others are injury prone then another striker and who knows who that person to be.

09 Jul 2015 18:28:09
Why on earth are we preparing a massive bid for Bale when Felipe Anderson, destined to be a world beater, would be available for a fraction of the price? I'm mythed?!

09 Jul 2015 19:05:27
I think the word Anderson makes the board sh*t bricks everytime its mentioned 💩💩

09 Jul 2015 19:07:31
Not ready yet for the premier league. Would be a hit or miss and people will start comparing him to Nani after just 1 month.

09 Jul 2015 18:47:15
Mythed?

09 Jul 2015 20:06:29
GDS , I think it's the adjective of meths. Ronnie doing meths would defo make sense :)

09 Jul 2015 21:05:11
He is mythed GDS, iv heard plenty of myths about Ronnie. There's one about him, Jimmy saville, and a trip to Belgium, but I'll let him tell you that one!

09 Jul 2015 17:28:16
It seems that amongst you glory hunting, jester hat wearing, too old but still wear a replica shirt muppets there are still some sparks of interest for me. I believe that Patzi might be my old nemesis under a different guise but still talking about himself in the 3rd person. The rest of you need to wake up and start a revolution. This is your club you own it and yet you are just standing there (most of you in a pub somewhere in your replica shirt) happily going along as those greedy American leeches rape and pillage the club for everything it has and we are forced to watch a team which at best is average and has been for the last 5 years. What has happened at our club has been nothing short of criminal and many of the crooks are still at the club. As for Moyes he was just a pathetic stooge put in place to play his part. Wake up I want to know your opinions on things that matter not some player we have never heard of but you have just looked up on your computer. Is anybody out there happy with where United are at the moment. How did this happen?

09 Jul 2015 17:59:48
trying to hard .
i really don't think its kloot

09 Jul 2015 18:07:25
We haven't been average for 5 years but we have since rvp won us the league! And now he's been sold by his international manager for less than 5 million that is a joke! In terms of the Americans I don't know what people want from them other than money for transfers and that is certainly happening! The problem we currently have is we have an average manager, and an even worse chief executive who is clueless in the market! We have done better since sacking the joke that was moyes but we won't go anywhere whilst lvg and Woodword are about!

09 Jul 2015 18:08:45
I'm with you on most things, I always said when fergie went we wouldn't get a top manager because it would make him look bad if Jose or someone like him had instant success, which I think he may well have. Moyes was just a puppet to the master

09 Jul 2015 18:19:39
No, Stretford is a s*** hole! Then again so was and is Newton Heath. Let's get a stadium built in Wilmslow I say.

09 Jul 2015 18:24:13
Moyes has gone stop living it the past, are all your posts aimed at annoying people who actually like coming on this site??


In the past 2 days there's been more dross coming from your posts then in the last 2 years of everyones on here.

If all your going to do is post things like this no wonder u got banned. Stop being so agrrssisve,you call yourself a fan yet all you do is slag every thing off about the club

09 Jul 2015 18:26:46
This is not kloot .He has hacked the account 100%

09 Jul 2015 18:31:28
Kloot, if that actually is you? I'd be interested to know what you would do if you were put in charge of the club? Would you be like Ed Woodward and try to ensure we look like the British Real Madrid and chase "galacticos" while signing massive sponsorship deals or would you spend your time systematically hunting down each of the Glazers so you could throw a green and gold scarf at them and call them leeches?

I have to say either would be entertaining.

My opinion on the club just now is that we are at a bit of a crossroads where if we don't get it right over the next couple of years we could be in trouble but I also think we could be in a far worse position, we could have a worse manager and worse players. I'm reasonably optimistic we will be fine and will be challenging for titles at home and abroad by the time LVG's tenure ends.

09 Jul 2015 18:33:24
Fergie cared more about the club than his reputation , shame on you

09 Jul 2015 18:38:24
Kloot do you know sometimes some of the things you say might hurt people's feelings.

09 Jul 2015 19:00:06
Of course it's me I am just trying to wake some of you up. Reading some of the dross on this site now I yearn for the time when we had some banter and spoke about what mattered. pepgiggs you are so gullible its unbelievable . He cared about his bank balance and his ego full stop. He let the team go from European Champions in 2008 to what they were when Moyes took over. jred i see you are still searching for one entertaining thing to say. Sorry to Jackutd I understand a few of you are a little sensitive and the ed's on this page don't like anyone getting upset

09 Jul 2015 19:04:56
I quite like the Glazers.

09 Jul 2015 18:50:18
Jack don't let him, don't even think its him like Jred said, trying too hard to be hated, kloot didn't get hated on purpose he actually believed the crap he said.

09 Jul 2015 19:16:15
Kloot if everyone wore replica shirts wouldn't that take money away from the American leeches,and on the other hand it could damage the club and make it worse than the last 5 years,make your mind up what side of the fence your on

09 Jul 2015 19:43:54
Kloot and don't disagree by much on the ownership issue. I have said before there is a strong sense of what might have been if the proper investment had been made in the team.

There is one point often missed especially at a time when Chelsea, Liverpool, City, and even Spurs are investing in their grounds, when Arsenal have a new one. What have our owners spent on our ground? The infrastructure is the same as 10 years ago, the same bars crammed, rain dripping through the roof in places. The last work of any note was spent using the money left by the plc. Have we even got new improved scoreboards?

It has been said that SAF made the decision not to spend on players but the money was there, of course. Ok then if the money was there and SAF didn't want it on players why was the ground not substantially improved?

Without doing finances I know the annual interest payment has been cleverly reduced, at the same time income has soared yet the ground is allowed to show signs of age. The lack of investment all round is a question all fans should be looking for answers to.

09 Jul 2015 19:48:57
That was actually a go at lightening the mood and add some much needed levity to distract from your depressing posts Kloot.

I honestly don't see what you gain from posting on here, apart from the fact you're obviously a closet citeh fan.

The sooner you get banned again the better.

09 Jul 2015 19:51:30
Think you're right now, jred.

09 Jul 2015 20:50:34
Lol Kloot comes back for a few days and people lose there minds!

Relax ppl, don't take it to seriously :) at the end of the day we can choose not to read his posts, he can't choose not to be him.

I know what I prefer.

09 Jul 2015 22:07:46
It ain't Kloot.
Its easy to manipulate people's thoughts, 1 idle comment from Patzi and Kloot thinks he's the penguin, Kloot was a lot more intelligent than that.
Well played Patzi :-)

09 Jul 2015 22:09:36
Defo not KLOOT. lol!!! He would remember me ;)

09 Jul 2015 22:22:44
"SYYYYYYDDDDNEYYYYY!! WE KNOW YOUR THERE!!!!!!". Jump in whenever your ready!! Lol

09 Jul 2015 22:41:11
KLOOT is comedy gold. Long may his utter rubbish posts continue

09 Jul 2015 22:54:55
Or maybe I'm Rufio and KLOOTs an older Peter looking for his kids. BAAAMERAAANG!!! 😆😆😆😆😀😀

09 Jul 2015 17:07:33
I think you guys are getting carried away, there is no surprise player.

A comment made by an ex player who isn't connected to the club in a recruitment capacity.

We'll see Depay unveiled, and a press-conference about the Adidas deal kicking in soon and most likely about the Pre-season tour.

Perhaps conversations surrounding Nani & RVP also.

09 Jul 2015 17:53:58
My thoughts exactly

09 Jul 2015 19:06:51
No Darmain?

09 Jul 2015 23:23:43
There's so many conflicting reports about that transfer and how far done it is, but I don't think he'll be unveiled in the next few days.

09 Jul 2015 16:24:12
Was just thinking. With all our forwards supposedly leaving or being loaned out, its safe to say that we may be looking at strikers. But if we do sign say a kane or a benzema. Where does di maria play.

{Ed007's Note - Paris.}

09 Jul 2015 17:06:16
He's not going to psg ed007 stop winding us up

09 Jul 2015 17:38:30
He's had enough of the weather in England he's off to Glasgow for a more tropical lifestyle

09 Jul 2015 18:20:16
and deep fried mars bars!

09 Jul 2015 17:29:59
Ed. Is it happening. If your answer is yes can put 2 and 2 together and get Bale?

{Ed007's Note - I think you'll be disappointed.}

09 Jul 2015 18:27:47
My thots exactly Bond. And if shipping him out meant us getting Kane/Benzema or dare i say Bale (Not Cristian), then i for one would be thrilled.

09 Jul 2015 16:12:16
Lack of info re: new signings has a lot to do with impending Adidas deal - big launch of kit on 1/8 will also see 'star' signings unveiled - and one very stellar signing!! No more than 2 to sign before then. Van Garlic has spoken.

09 Jul 2015 16:43:22
I can smell you from here .That post stinks !!😥😥

09 Jul 2015 17:09:01
All vampires and blood suckers wilt at the sight of Van Garlic. :) !!!!! But mark this down in your notebook - a stellar signing is imminent. And he's not a defender.Van Garlic lives on.

09 Jul 2015 15:18:15
My 1st serious post of the day.

Is cillison from ajax better than begovic, lloris or indeed valdes??

Rumours gathering momentum with him

09 Jul 2015 15:43:19
I only watched him in the WC - as soon as rumours started about Krul coming in on here I said "why would we sign Krul when Cilleson was first choice for LVG during the WC?!"

I wasn't impressed by his stature in the slightest and would rather Valdes than him, he just didn't seem to inspire/organise those around him. I'd rather Lloris out of all of them, but I am no expert on keepers.

I'd love to be up against Cilleson in a one-on-one, or going for a cross and that shouldn't be the case for a Utd keeper.

09 Jul 2015 16:00:44
I have to agree beast, cilleson looks weaker than de gea did when we signed him, the only 2 keepers who i'd be looking at would be oblak and Lloris.

09 Jul 2015 16:02:38
Fair enough, not seen him at all. Remember your annoyance at the link yo krul and u weren't alone. I personally would prefer lloris but can't see levy letting it happen

09 Jul 2015 16:17:17
Oblak will be my choice.

09 Jul 2015 16:19:10
Jan Oblak without question is who we should be going after!

09 Jul 2015 16:54:38
Not on the same level as Lloris and Begovic!

09 Jul 2015 16:56:18
Oblak is absolutely average.

Mark my words, that guy will never be a top goalkeeper.

Cillessen for me is a different class to all but Lloris.

Beast, what are you talking about? Cillessen's biggest strength is his ability in 1v1 situations. Watch the Barcelona game from last year where he saved 5 or 6 1v1's against Messi and Neymar.

One of his other biggest qualities is his ability to command his defence. He's incredibly vocal for Ajax.

Cillessen, Lloris and then Valdes in that order.

I wonder how many of you have watched Cillessen play consistently for a season or two? he's absolutely top draw with a few improvements needed.

The boy is better with his feet that De Gea and only really needs to work on his diving at full stretch and his parrying - which will improve at United.

Ironically, he claims more balls that Lloris, Begovic and De Gea. 98% claim success to be specific.

The guy is 6'1 and weighs 13 stone - Making him the same height and bulkier than Lloris.

But it's okay, create opinions based on FIFA and vague memories of a World Cup which he was brilliant in, yes brilliant. Go back and watch every Holland game (I re-watched 4 to write my report) and you'll see just how good he was during that tournament, but because of one substitution he gets written off.

Let me say this, Lloris would be brilliant, Valdes would be a good choice also, but if you want a goalkeeper who can only improve, has very little ego and i so determined to learn. He's in contact with Van Der Sar and his using his knowledge.

Oh and if you know anything about coaching, he was coached by Wilfried Brookhuis, a man very well respected and highly sought after in Dutch football.

09 Jul 2015 17:30:43
With Jose here, the guy goes nutz at his defence. Great keeper, but I'd go Lloris b4 him 😉

09 Jul 2015 17:46:33
Patzi, I'd take either Lloris or him, there isn't much between it apart from about £30 Million in asking prices.

Something special about Cillessen though, he's been building a brilliant career under the radar for a while.

09 Jul 2015 17:56:37
Moonrinho I can guarantee oblak will be a much better keeper than cilessen who is very average himself.

09 Jul 2015 18:39:33
RedDon,

If you say so mate. I'm not sure you've watched enough of either keeper to make that call. Oblak will do well behind a well drilled defensive unit at Athletico.

His entire career he's been dreadful for the first half of the season, not average, not bad but dreadful! - Olympiakos scoring 3 of the softest goals past him spring to mind. He has zero positional awareness, he's always in the wrong place and his shot stopping is non-existent.

he balls great theatrical saves out of the bag when he has time to see the ball, often with long range shots that he could just as easily catch.

All the hype for him comes from a 3 clean sheets against 3 teams in the lower half of the table (all of which scored less goals that QPR who finished bottom of the EPL) and because of 2 games against Real Madrid and Barcelona which he did play well in.

He's not even the Athletico number one for christ sake, Moya is (a far superior keeper by the way) and if it wasn't for his injury Oblak would have never got a chance to feature as much as he did.

The boy has Mignolet quality written all over him.

I would seriously be worried if United were ever seriously in for him.

Cillessen very average?

Is it because he hasn't got a fancy name and he doesn't play for a European powerhouse?

I would trust Cillessen just as much, if not more than I trust De Gea. now he may lack in areas where De Gea is superior, but that can be said visa versa.

If we sign Cillessen we would have signed a keeper better that Ter Stegen, Oblak, Begovic, Neto, Butland or any other young decent keeper you could think of.

He's destined to be a world class goalkeeper.

I'm not really one for Youtube videos, but I'm not sure how you can all this guy average.

Also Beast, he pulls of a lot of good 1v1 saves ;)

youtube.com/watch?v=AMfHffVS3tg

09 Jul 2015 19:45:48
Jose - Yeah I haven't watched him much at all, I tend to judge a book by it's cover if it's just a quick opinion. He looks feeble to me and I would have relished going up against him for a challenge, he wouldn't intimidate.

That said if you have watched him more than a few games at the WC it's more than me. Just going on my gut that he doesn't seem right, obviously people should pay more attention to the views of people who have seen him often.

I did say at the start of my post it's not basing it on any hard evidence.

09 Jul 2015 20:09:36
Beast,

I can understand the points of view where people don't think he's the right guy, I just wish more poster would actually take the time to watch some games (download a torrent if you can't watch it live) instead of basing their opinion on how fancy their name is and a YouTube video.

If you can catch any of the Barcelona games that he's played you'll see how good his 1v1 ability is as well by the way.

09 Jul 2015 20:56:28
Moonrinho before you assume, yes I watch plenty of spanish and my fair share of Dutch football. Oblak is still young and can improve, but already in my opinion a good keeper. It's unfair to compare to Mignolet because in all honesty Mignolet is one of the worst keepers in the league. My point on cilessen is I don't think he can improve on what he already is. And what he already is, is no better than what we currently have.

My personal preference would be Leno or Perin. Both young and already great keepers, Leno more so than Perin. I think Valdes deserves his shot at no1 with a young understudy. Nobody more experienced than Valdes to learn from. He's played many CL finals, WC finals etc.

09 Jul 2015 23:09:15
"MOOOOOONN!!! MOOOOOONN! !!"
With u Jose, Cilessen is getting a raw deal here. In my time, the Dutch have always produced some of the world's top keepers. This guy is no exception. But purely because I see a lot more of Lloris, he shades it by a rizlas pose

😆

09 Jul 2015 23:27:09
RedDon,

Well then mate, if you watch plenty of both you'll be able to see the progress Cillessen has made over the past 3 years, would you not?

Oblak doesn't do anything! much like Migs he's an average shot stopper with some of the worst goalkeeper positioning I've ever seen.

I would 100% honestly say that if we signed him as anything more than a back up goalkeeper I would be incredibly worried. He's just not very good mate.

Like I said, he's not even Athletico's first choice and when he has been, with the exception of a 'good' month he's been diabolical.

Cillessen, Lloris or Keep Valdes as far as i'm concerned.

Lets just agree to disagree mate aha.

09 Jul 2015 14:49:15
I've been sitting outside MUR and visiting most days to see what the groundswell is on the inside. At the risk of getting flamed here's my two pennorth.
You've noticed the dailies and ragblogs have nothing concrete to say.
Nothing.
It's all clickbait headlines to get us accessing that page to earn them more advertising money. Sling up anything, as long as the punter clicks the link. hence the clever headlines put up at two in the morning talking about 'prolific striker in talks - deal imminent' takes you to a page full of RVP and Turkey rumour, with the best of them this last fortnight being 'Morgan finally chooses Man Utd destination' linking to a piece about Willie Morgans transfer in. 1968.
Why can't the blogsters sit back and look at the real scenery?
Sign Harry Kane? Why? James Wilson could run him off the park. but with RVP around, he's sitting out on the car park for 90 minutes every saturday.
Kane got his chance to shine because THotsp had the tripes to play him and he stepped up.
Ings got his chance and stepped up.
We have Adnan J. another huge huge talent sidelined at the moment as he can't get a game because of the ego's (and monster wages) of those currently standing in his way
LVG has made his name everywhere he has been by bringing on his younger players, who then go on to show him utter loyalty and 100% effort every time they pull on the shirt because he was the one that gave them their big chance.
Like he did with half the players now being linked to the Reds.
RVP gone, Nani gone, Little P hinted at (please say it ain't so Louis - he could reach Ole hero status).
perhaps there's method here, a real long term plan being put in place.
And today's belter - £99m for Bale?
Two sneaky inside the mouth scrapes, and we could go to South Korea and clone Denis Law and Christiano for that .
It's time to bite on the clothes peg, wait a bit longer and see what the guy who's pretending to be David Gill pulls off for us.
Fingers crossed the yoof step up over the water, batter their way in, and give us a team that will put greed to one side, fight for their chance to wear the shirt, and once they are in it, play their tripes out for us, week in and week out.
That's all we ask isn't it? For all that money?
Sorry to have banged on. I'll get my fireproofed coat and wait for the incoming!

09 Jul 2015 15:14:20
Good post pal.

09 Jul 2015 15:18:03
Awesome post.

09 Jul 2015 15:28:37
What the hell was that? You lost me at MUR.

09 Jul 2015 16:09:22
Excellent post.

09 Jul 2015 17:16:05
Willie Morgan now there was a player. Won fans player of the year twice in a team that included Best, Law and Charlton.

09 Jul 2015 16:59:38
A good read.
I assume MUR is Manchester United Rumours?

09 Jul 2015 18:23:07
Either that or 'Men's Urinal Room' mbd, seriously hope it isn't the latter!

10 Jul 2015 00:05:44
Basically, no one knows what the heck is going on!
And that's probably the best way

😬

09 Jul 2015 14:40:53
They are reporting that Van Persie is currently having a medical with Fenerbache. I will be sad to see him go actually, I thought he would rediscover himself under LVG but that has not been the case.

09 Jul 2015 13:38:32
Think the surprise player people are getting excited about is not bale but Zlatan ibrahimovic !

09 Jul 2015 13:46:36
That would be a terrible move for us, massive wages, massive ego and on the decline. If we do that deal we have zero foresight.

09 Jul 2015 13:49:47
Zlatan and LvG do not get on at all if I remember correctly.

09 Jul 2015 14:05:20
Zlatan and LVG, the most opposite attitudes, I can't think of a worse rumor.
Although no doubting Zlatan's ability, he still can score 20+ goals for 2 more years.

09 Jul 2015 14:07:35
I would love it, but as databass has already pointed out both he and LVG cannot stand to be in the same room together

09 Jul 2015 14:15:08
W U M!

09 Jul 2015 14:18:44
LOL there's more chance of us signing raheem sterling than zlatan

i think zlatan referred to lvg as a pompous ass in his autobiography and if he did sign it would probably take about 20-30 minutes for them to bump heads

09 Jul 2015 15:16:43
Thought I'd just put it out there to see what happened! I'd take him but it ain't Gunna happen

09 Jul 2015 16:20:23
I would love United to sign Zlatan. He has that arrogance that we are currently missing, and have missed since we had Rooney, Ronaldo, and Tevez up top tearing teams apart. Zlatan could have a similar effect to Cantona, after all, wherever Zlatan goes, he wins league titles.

09 Jul 2015 17:37:35
I too would love if LVG dared to Zlat

🌞

09 Jul 2015 13:06:40
The price tags of Nani and RvP should serve as a lesson for us before offering new contracts to player. There should be a proper thought given to the long term implications. We just get run over by agents and succumb to their demands.

There has to be a method to the madness.

09 Jul 2015 13:10:07
Nani getting a deal was a huge mistake, no idea what was going through Moyes mind. But didn't know in general to be fair.

09 Jul 2015 13:31:51
For me, Moyes gave Rooney and Nani new contracts in an attempt to show big name players would want to sign and play for him as he was struggling to attract the players in the summer window. I can't help but feel letting RVP go is a mistake, the fact he is getting a 4 year contract would suggest to me that he could offer the premier league another 2 seasons. He would be in a more rotated role but still get more than 30 games this season in all competitions. On the flip side, letting RVP go shows LVG has a ruthlessness which long term should benefit us.

09 Jul 2015 13:45:35
'No idea what was going through Moyes's mind'

So when it comes to negotiations now LVG has no say (Di Maria, Falcao etc wasn't his signings according to some on here) but when Moyes was in charge he had full control over such matters and it was him who personally gave Nani a new contract?

Yes Moyes had a mare at United but some people just love to beat him with a stick while putting LVG on an unmerited pedestal at the same time. LOL!

09 Jul 2015 14:09:47
Nani: It was stupidity to offer him a long-term so early that season. He should have waited atleast till February , that Moyes.

Rooney: When SAF left, I was certain Rooney was going, because SAF said he handed in a transfer request but Rooney denied it, and to me he didn't look as happy as others did while winning the title. But Moyes came and signed him up, when we should've let Rooney and signed an in-form Falcao that years. But nobody wanted to play with Moyesy.

RVP: I am not sure on this one, but aren't United saving some money which had to be paid as a loyalty bonus or somethin', probably the eds or some fellow poster could shed some light.

09 Jul 2015 14:41:34
RVP is the type of player that gets rusty without games. Therefore its best to move him on as he would only be sitting on the bench bitching.

Nani - who knows what was going on there, maybe the thinking was that if he is given enough games we can increase his value.

Rooney - Massive error, he actually looked very hungry and played well for Moyes right up until he signed that deal. Since then both he and RVP have been rank average.

Most people take their foot off the gas once they have been paid in advance, only a select few people have the ability to maintain the service quality after being rewarded in advance. Football should smarten up, it's too easy for players to perform for short bursts, get their 4-5 year deal then coast until its contract time again.

09 Jul 2015 14:48:52
They might have just been trying to keep his value up. At least they got a fee for him.

09 Jul 2015 14:56:09
Which player should be awarded with contract extension is completely in Manager's hand JMB. He only does not negotiate.

People have been slating Moyes because he destroyed our beloved club (not all his fault) but you are always trying to slate LVG who just wants to bring the club back to the top.
U just need to blame him so u always bring the huge transfer kitty stuff and things he promised which is not fulfilled. I guess you will blame him for his hairstyle also

09 Jul 2015 00:40:32
hi ed is there interest in William Carvalho from utd? He is going to be hell of player.

{Ed007's Note - Utd and Arsenal were interested but both baulked at the money involved.}

09 Jul 2015 13:15:58
Time warp!!

09 Jul 2015 14:29:52
Just read madrid have real interest in him.

09 Jul 2015 14:59:03
Ajh I got visions of you in costume from the rocky horror show

09 Jul 2015 12:43:42
With some google researc it looks like Darmien currently plays in a wing back role for Torino, could we see the return of the ill fated 532/352?
I don't think so. I hope not but thought it worth a note.

If we did we would need someone like Otemandi to be the leader and the voice to maybe Rojo and Smalling.

09 Jul 2015 13:11:36
We won't go back to it, but he is a very versatile player.

09 Jul 2015 14:33:47
Thought this myself tbf. I think at this point with both him and Shaw it'll afford us more flexibility to use this formation in the future (hopefully with a better outcome)

09 Jul 2015 12:06:58
Spurs are moving to 61000 capacity stadium, Chelsea are planning something like that. Does we have any plan in the pipeline to either increase OT capacity to around 95000 or move to a new modern bigger stadium of 100000+ capacity?

09 Jul 2015 12:23:58
Modern bigger stadium where? If anything can be done to increase OT's capacity then that will be the option, might be a bit of a stretch imo.

09 Jul 2015 12:30:37
i think one of the eds mentioned a few months ago that there was a meeting to discuss expanding one of the stands

09 Jul 2015 12:45:43
Don't think we would be leaving OT anytime soon as it is still the benchmark for English football, I think the hopes were to have all four corners like those of the north side but there are problems with the railway and the houses on Railway Rd.

Also the debt needs to be paid before we can think about spending that kind of pennies. No doubt we could fill 90+ but it won't be until the club is back to its true self

09 Jul 2015 13:34:02
1redarmy is right it is the railway that is the main problem, United have been battling to purchase that land for years. The houses were not too much of a problem they would sell but the rail company will not budge and have rejected all previous proposals.

09 Jul 2015 11:16:42
Iv had a feeling something BIG was going to happen the past week or so when all the strikers started dropping like flies and after Irwins comments i'm even more adamant it will! Plenty of twists and turns to come

09 Jul 2015 13:17:31
Do you think you might have wind?

09 Jul 2015 09:37:41
Reporting once again in France about the DiMaria to PSG transaction for 60 M euros and Grégory Van der Wiel one of LVG's favourites
Honestly think this will happen

09 Jul 2015 09:47:13
Why would we want Van Der Wiel if we've just signed Darmian ?

09 Jul 2015 09:52:15
How is di maria going to complete a medical when he's done his hamstring?

09 Jul 2015 09:57:04
Why would we take a right back when we are about to sign one.

09 Jul 2015 10:08:25
Earlier we weren't signing even one RB. Now we might sign 2 in a couple of days.

09 Jul 2015 10:28:03
Somebody on the arsenal page mentioned something along these lines, along with some other info. I believe one of them was trapp to PSG a few days before it happened. Not sure of the validity of the guy but he's got one on the head and now this appears in the media it may have some truth. I hope not.

09 Jul 2015 11:00:41
Darmian can also play cb. Is this not lvg plan

09 Jul 2015 11:24:01
Nah!! Not going to happen. Di Maria will stay and win us the title.

09 Jul 2015 11:57:20
These are great rumours though aren't they, let's imagine a journo has made it up and people are buying it. We need more of this nonsense.

09 Jul 2015 12:21:39
AJH you'd love Twitter, it's literally non-stop dribble from every fan around. Very entertaining stuff.

09 Jul 2015 09:05:54
Couple of years ago, I read an article in .com . It said that Man Utd had agreed combined 60m fee for Gareth Bale and Luka Modric. Obviously, since it was , the news was rubbish . Since both were not at their peak so 60m was too much IMO for those two players combined.And a year later how those two became most sought out stars, we all know and 60m was peanuts.
Similarly now, Spurs are wanting 40m for Kane. Maybe that is too expensive and a risk but what if he continues his splendid form next year? If we don't sign him now then maybe he will be valued around 80m next season and we will be thinking IF we had bought him last year.
I know this is hypothetical question but whenever we get linked with rising stars i remember that article and my thought about Bale (even at 60m along with modric) being expensive.I would offer 60m alone for bale now and it still will be less.
Sometimes you have to take risk. It may not always favour you but when it does, you will enjoy the bargain.
So if we want to buy a striker, I would take risk with Kane

09 Jul 2015 10:02:15
You can say the same for about 20 other young and upcoming players.

09 Jul 2015 10:12:37
Not long ago when people were suggesting we should buy Townsend after a few good matches. Now no one's even taking his name. Hope this doesn't happen with Kane.

09 Jul 2015 11:06:31
Imightbesomeone
And that 20 other young and upcoming players had shown potential only i.e not proved themselves. p.s how many of them were from premier league?

Kane scored 20+ league goals so i don't think he only has potential but also has proved it. If he were from another league then i would worry but he is from the same league and knows most thing well.

09 Jul 2015 11:07:48
Sailor
Townsend after few good matches does not prove himself. He should show his class for year or 2.
Since sometimes thing does not work our, that's why it is called risk.

09 Jul 2015 11:59:11
For everyone that comes off thee are 5 or 6 (at least) that don't). SAF bought potential in his last few years and very few have gone on to be established stars. o think he thought if could find several more Ronaldos but if it was that easy everyone would be doing it,

09 Jul 2015 12:48:06
Srestha
And yet i still think 50m is way too much for him. Much better and proven options available

09 Jul 2015 13:31:24
so many of those prospects go wrong.kleberson great world cup absolutely pants at united. Anderson - scout said he was better than rooney when we signed him flopped. Dong Fangzho - predicted to be amazing, played 1 game. zaha has already been mentioned. massimo taibi played once never been seen again. djemba-djemba meant to be replacement for roy keane, sat on the bench. Bebe - just WOW. Nani - looked to be a great signing but couldn't perform consistently.

then you look at the ones we have signed - ronaldo, rooney, adnan (possibly), vidic, keane, Schmeichel and have to put cantona in there even though he wasnt really a prospect.

you can't go shelling out masses of money on players you think will be awesome because football manager says they will be good in two years.

{Ed007's Note - Schmeichel was 27/28 when Utd signed him.}

09 Jul 2015 03:05:16
picture of current UTD players and all we have been linked too and quite funny

Click on image to see full size picture

09 Jul 2015 08:40:47
Class picture

09 Jul 2015 08:43:14
It is quite funny though, the fact they've put down my 3 rb's and a name no one had mentioned until 2 days ago is being signed!

This further shows how little the media know about our dealings.

I prefer it this way as the less the media know the less city and chelski know.

09 Jul 2015 08:48:49
And no Darmian, shows what the press know. lol

09 Jul 2015 09:22:11
The left wing back role is a little bare don't you think?

09 Jul 2015 09:44:43
It is quite refreshing the press haven't a clue on our targets. Quite literally ANYONE could end up at United 😌

09 Jul 2015 11:59:47
Is just shows the complete circus that is press reporting of our targets, the vast majority of what is printed is complete balderdash

09 Jul 2015 07:06:17
So the wage bill will be trimmed massively, i think the plan may well be keep the wage bill the same or even lower it by the end of the window.

Also get some money back so it does not turn into a huge spend, in case we need to go again in january.

Depay
Darmian
Schneiderlin

and then possibly otamendi and i will be happy, yeh you all can say about upfront but i'm sure LVG was going to convert januzai to a STRIKER !

09 Jul 2015 09:23:26
Well with the departures of Falcao, Nani, Cleverley, Anderson etc we must have knocked 500k off the wage bill. RVP's departure will make that 750k.

09 Jul 2015 09:48:42
If we don't sign at least 1 top class CB we will be in serious trouble. We have pure sick notes and no composure on the ball. It costs us so many points and creatively, plus we won't have Big Dave to cover either in all likelihood.

A CB has to come in, I'd bring in 2.

09 Jul 2015 09:49:19
That's approx £39m a year saved.

08 Jul 2015 23:28:00
First time poster here :)

I have been reading the forums avidly for a little under a year now and have to say i find it very entertaining.

My opinion on the transfer window is one of excitement.

I am loving the fact that our beloved club are keeping us all in suspense.

But i also feel that their will be a big reveal on Friday.

As Louis said he wanted his signings in ready for the tour and i believe most of them will be revealed prior to the tour.

Predictions


Darmian
Ramos and Otamendi (Hopefully)
Schneiderlein
Lacazette

I personally think we will be keeping Valdes as the number 1 while bringing in a new number 2 as his understudy.

all the best

RD4L

09 Jul 2015 06:47:35
Darmain possible by friday.
Otamendi possible but he may be in vacation.
Scheiderlin most certain before US tour but not friday unless we reach agreement with Southampton by today and Schneiderlin will take medical by the end of the day and unveiled tomorrow.
Ramos is possible before US tour if we pay crazy money.
Lacazette to PSG.

LVG want both Ramos and Otamendi
according to some papers. So Ramos situation may drag to deadline day.

09 Jul 2015 00:04:07
Can see quotes online from denis irwin and paddy on MUTV really hyping up that united are going to show how bigger club we are etc in terms on transfers

Did anyone see this as i'm expecting it to be nonsense

09 Jul 2015 00:45:37
I would listen to irwin but nine times out of ten crerand talks shite

09 Jul 2015 09:27:26
they will be on about the way they go about it. everyone is moaning about not getting signings or that we're linked with every play of every top league but i like how united are staying quiet and getting on with it. we're respectable not coming out in the media and unsettling anyone.

unlike mourinho who covers all the back pages because he openly says i want him

09 Jul 2015 10:13:00
Irwin said the next two weeks will blow fans away. I don't think he meant the way we do business haa