Manchester United Banter Archive June 09 2015

09 Jun 2015 22:14:59
Well it's that time of year I (n most others) check our rumour sites n this one has been a mainstay since nearly day 1 for me n credit to the eds it's been expanded to a huge n expansive level! It's now a good read for genuine footy fans. I'm a utd fan 1st but a footy fan aswell so like a read of other teams pages and the other rumour pages! So when I read on other teams pages and the eds seem to have good relations with the posters n seem to feel appreciated it p----s me off that some goons on our page have spoilt the relations wiv the eds (espesh ed02) I'm not sure what happened but can imagine!! So I guess I'm apologising for the tools who spoilt it for the rest of us n hoping us posters can redeem ourselves n get the eds back on side n appreciate they take time out of there lives to give us this forum. Ass kissing over ha

09 Jun 2015 19:25:01
Southampton reportedly have agreed to sign a right back called cedric, potentially Clyne could be a goer if true.

09 Jun 2015 22:16:57
Fingers crossed, did he ever sign that contract he was stalling on?

09 Jun 2015 23:54:52
Not that I'm aware, he was given a deadline which seemed to have past a while back. Maybe saints are trying to sign someone before clyne leaving is announced.

10 Jun 2015 10:24:39
I thought we had dropped our interest in him, at this moment in time I think a Clyne is far more likely to either stay at Southampton or move to Liverpool than to move to us.

09 Jun 2015 17:13:55
Juventus midfield; £7.8m
*pirlo
*pogba
*marchisio
*khedira
*vidal

Lessons can be learned from this. None of these players were considered world beaters when juve signed them. Pirlo was even considered past it.

09 Jun 2015 17:50:55
Well when u consider pogba should of inflated that price along with Khedria it's not that great.

09 Jun 2015 18:52:52
Inflated it how? Signing on fees? When you consider 27mil fellaini it's a little embarrassing on our part!

09 Jun 2015 19:27:46
I'm talking about signing Pogba for peanuts when he was worth more. And khedira is worth a bit too but went on a free.

These are players that if signed up for actual prices would of inflated that figure somewhat.

But don't let me get in the way of your mufc bashing mate.

09 Jun 2015 20:08:51
the fact is juve got a very good midfield for very little outlay .

great bit of business imo

09 Jun 2015 21:31:03
No s**t Sherlock, of course they'd be worth more, that's exactly the point I'm making - they conducted smart business. They were smart with their purchases instead of just buying big names for huge fees for the sake of it which I think we could learn a lot from. Some people a bit too eager to jump down people's throats ^^

09 Jun 2015 22:47:35
Juve always seem to turn outcasts into stars.

09 Jun 2015 23:00:23
Well then kudos to the men or man at Juventus who spotted these talented freebies so to speak.

Maybe MUFC could hire that guy to work for us and see if his lightning strikes twice.

10 Jun 2015 07:30:40
Excellent post! I was personally shocked at how good their midfield was before Khedira was announced, which cost them virtually nothing!

Obviously they have a man whth great persuasion who can get all these top players to sign. And why can we never seem to snap up a bargain or a good player on a free???

09 Jun 2015 16:08:06
Hi guys, if you's don't mind taking a couple of minutes to read this, I'd like to tell you about a conversation I had today in school with a 1st year. So I was in for a revision class ahead of my exams and a group of kids were playing football, so of course me and my mates joined in. One of the kids told me he supported united, so I asked him why, expecting him to say he did because of the trophies in previous seasons. His reply shocked me, now bear in mind he was about 12 years old, he told me he supports united because it's the only club in the world that could deal with a tragedy like the one in Munich and that it has inspired to follow the club. I was shocked and asked him what he knew about the disaster and, well the kids done his research he knew everything. All the players, absolutely everything.
All united fans are called gloryhunters etc, but I found it refreshing that a youngster (like myself) has only grown up seeing the good times, but still understands the history. His final words to me were, "I wonder if some of the players truly understand what it means to play for us". I have to say I agree, I hope all foreign players brought into the club understand our history. Not the good times, but the bad times. It's what makes our unique and the best in the world.
I jus thought I'd share something like this on the page, as it's different from the usual barrage of questions the eds face on transfers and posters arguing. Have a good day folks, back to the revision I go! (Will be posting regularly again after Thursday when I finish!)
Caolán

09 Jun 2015 16:21:05
Great story and you are right it is important that fans know the real history of United and that what we have done will not be forgotten. We are a big club and that will never change!

09 Jun 2015 16:35:52
Nice to hear that mate. A lot of youngsters get bad press these days; but hearing things like this puts a smile on my face.

09 Jun 2015 19:00:29
Caolin

Really great to hear that.

I have to wonder who actually disagreed with your post?

I started supporting United in 1968 and remember the reason was not just because my late brother told me we had won the European cup but because he told me what happened ten years before, how Manchester was afterwards, how the club dealt with the tragedy and especially how the club rose again with special people like Busby and Murphy, whose stoicism and drive saw us through our darkest hour to one of the brightest. It is a message that I am delighted to hear from the lad you spoke to.

09 Jun 2015 19:28:08
Lovely post mate.

09 Jun 2015 19:57:31
Red Man, you have a few years on me. I started supporting United when they were in Div 2, I remember them getting promoted with Norwich and Villa in '75. i was sat in my parents car whilst they were shopping listening to what I guess was radio 2 in those days as our promotion was confirmed. I read a book on the crash and it moved me to tears; rightly or wrongly that is where much of our worldwide support came from. It has defined us ever since, Busby winning the European Cup 10 years later, our tradition for developing and playing youth. This is where other clubs struggle, they will never have this history. We need to remember it and ensure it is never forgotten.

09 Jun 2015 20:46:12
Great post. And I too started supporting United because my older brother told me about Munich when I was 9. So I started supporting them in late 60s.
I think players like Evra always said that he studied our history and that's why he has such great respect for our club. If players like di Maria can show just a little of that knowledge and respect then us fans will be delighted. But sadly a lot of players these days have no idea about the history of clubs.

10 Jun 2015 09:19:41
Why would anyone disagree with Caolan's post? Anyways, it was a nice read and glad to hear it as well.

10 Jun 2015 10:30:29
Don't assume that its just Man Utd fans on here. I suspect there are many trolls whom support other clubs probably clicking disagree. I also wouldn't be surprised if one or two replies to his post never made it past editing.

for us United fans reading this kind of thing brings a warmth to our hearts, for bitter fans of lesser clubs it is a painful reminder that they will forever be in our shadow.

09 Jun 2015 14:33:29
A lot of talk of ADM wanting to stay, but, at the same time, a lot of talk of him wanting out? PSG as we know are interested? Now swap deals are very uncommon, but surely ADM for Marquinhos and Rabiot would be suit both parties well? We need a defender and a midfielder and they want ADM? Good or bad call? Cheers, Ronnie.

09 Jun 2015 15:21:54
Terrible call ronnie

09 Jun 2015 15:28:40
Get the jist. sorry!

09 Jun 2015 15:51:21
There is too much talk with ADM and not enough walk!

I'm sick of him, maybe if he spent more time training in the gym than in the tattoo parlour he could do what he is paid a to do! It's not my money we wasted for sure, but it certainly meant an alternative wasn't signed. His attitude stinks and so does his play acting.

I'd be happy if we could recoup £40m for him and put it down to a bad mistake. Why do we even buy players that are flashing their knickers at another team as we do it, it was only going to go one way with this guy?

That felt good to get off my chest!

09 Jun 2015 16:27:01
Bit harsh beast, for all we know he may be in the gym but his frame is not one that is ever going to be big really. He is a player who is skilful but not strong and he just has to learn to use it better a little like Neymar seems to have done (he is hardly the hulk).

Just because he received offers from elsewhere doesn't mean that he wants to go it just means that offers have been put in to test the water. I haven't heard him say he doesn't want to stay. A great player who just doesn't seem right for us but maybe with the right players coming in he will improve.

Get him back on the wing in my eyes and see what he can do pre season.

09 Jun 2015 16:31:13
Give it a rest he had a bad season, struggling to adapt which many players do. Remember Vidic and Evra start? Hardly encouraging was it, yet look how they turned out. Let's give him another year to prove his worth, and between now and August he can't do a lot about it

09 Jun 2015 16:46:24
Yeah I appreciate my post was a bit harsh, but when you consider everything it was nothing short of abysmal. Granted he is new to the league, had the burglary, isn't necessarily built for a physical game - but we paid £60m for him and Ashley Young kept him out the team, who 99% of fans wanted rid of pre-season.

I don't like his attitude.

Vidic and Evra were cheap buys in January. They improved the more they played, ADM has regressed. I don't remember those two seemingly making overtures to other clubs either. We are far too forgiving imo.

I know I'm going to get loads of disagrees for my view, but ultimately the question isn't about loyalty to our players, premature criticism etc, it is about return on investment and efforts to improve - he seems to me to want to be on the first plane out of Manchester to Paris.

Each to their own, but the sooner we get rid of this type of character the better imo.

P.S - I also don't like his lizard like features, they freak me out, but that's something he can't help I suppose!

09 Jun 2015 16:57:56
Ha love it Beast , you start off by saying your previous post was a bit harsh , then give him another kicking

09 Jun 2015 22:00:52
He is a bit reptilian, if he ran with his tongue out like nani i'd put him on the transfer list

09 Jun 2015 23:19:21
Perhaps he's related to the Windsor's?

10 Jun 2015 00:41:03
Vidic signed for another club while still or captain I'll never understand why we didn't strip him if the captaincy then and send him to train with the youth team. If that's not making overtures to Other clubs what is?

10 Jun 2015 01:03:47
He will come good with better players around him.

09 Jun 2015 14:27:21
Pretty quiet on the transfer front for all the big English clubs atm. I would imagine that things will speed up pretty quickly. Juventus signing khedira, pretty much means that either Pogba or Vidal will leave this summer IMO.
With regards to our own transfer dealings, I would not be surprised if most of our signings are players already playing in the PL. I think Schneiderlin is more or less a done deal. I say that because I believe the player is desperate to join us. I also would not be surprised if we moved for Benteke. I just don't see us signing another big name striker whilst Rooney is still at the club.
Otamendi looks nailed on, but I really can't see many other players from abroad being brought in.

What do you guys think?

09 Jun 2015 15:18:04
Not think that khedira may be cover for Pirlo? That man can't last forever.

09 Jun 2015 15:35:33
I thought Pirlo was out of contract and going to MLS.

09 Jun 2015 15:37:10
Possibly; but it would seem that they are willing to listen to offers for Vidal. I think they are probably looking to keep Pogba for anther year; although if someone came in with a massive bid, then who knows.

09 Jun 2015 15:58:21
I have seen a lot of nailed on players over the last few years but where are we nailing them as they rarely end up at old trafford

09 Jun 2015 16:07:51
Pogba is desperate for a Barca move so will expect him to stay with Juve til next season, expect Khedira to cover Pirlo who looks like switching to the MLS. So far most of the lazy press have looked silly, Khedira, Alves to players linked with us already proved them wrong. Can't wait til one of the papers get 1 of there 6,000 predictions right and try to brag about u read it here first bollox.

09 Jun 2015 16:32:11
True, bookedredmole. I just think the guy fits what the manager is looking for. And it seems like he does want to join us if reports are to be believed. So I will stick my neck out and say that I think he will be a United player by the start of next season. :)

09 Jun 2015 13:54:32
So RVP spotted in Rome, if true and with lazio ruling honour maybe he's part of deal for a Naingollan, Pjanic or Strootman or he's just on holiday ha.

09 Jun 2015 14:21:34
Van Persie denies he was in Rome to speak to Lazio. He was on vacation with his wife, "I have a life outside of football"

09 Jun 2015 15:07:10
It would seem that he might be off this summer. I for one can't see the sense in keeping him at the club. He hasn't performed well for two seasons; and the money we are paying him could be used to improve the team in other areas.

09 Jun 2015 15:56:31
Rooney has been spotted in Blackpool, clearly these means he's signing for them.

09 Jun 2015 19:21:20
No he just likes the fresh, sugared donuts AJH.

09 Jun 2015 19:52:12
Classic lol.

09 Jun 2015 12:37:56
Reported that we're interested in one or the other. So.

Schweinsteiger or Schneiderlin?

Schweini (Been mates for years)

For: Strong tackler, presence, hugely experienced, decent passer, Vg knows him well, will be additional Vg voice on pitch

Against: not quickest, 31, passing range? Is he the DM we need? Why are BM letting him go - what do they know?

Schneidi (taught him at school)

For: proven Prem experience, great engine/tackler, helped Soton keep amazing defensive record/they missd him hugely, decent passer, younger, £25m not astronomical

Against: can be rash, box to box rather than DM, vision of Carrick? LVG r'ship Koeman

Or get both? Someone else?

09 Jun 2015 12:47:02
Well to start with, they are different type of players. And LVG and Koeman dislike each other, so the deal will not be done based on their relationship!! But it is Woodward's job to secure the signing.

09 Jun 2015 14:26:15
Personally i'd try get both for less than 40m. Would be quality. With herrera as the energy then i can see those 3 being brilliant. Blind Carrick and the big 'Plan B' waiting in the wings.

09 Jun 2015 23:25:11
If it's either or, get Schneiderlin and build for the future imo.

09 Jun 2015 11:47:03
So dani Alves has signed a new contract with Barca, Blanc was right about him just using us and PSG, ridiculous. So, who's the next option, Clyne? Coleman?

09 Jun 2015 11:52:34
Does this actually surprise anyone?

09 Jun 2015 11:57:23
Of course he was right, Alves just wanted a two year contract and that's what he got.

Coleman would be great, but he would have to push for a move and even at that it would be costly.

I think Clyne is underrated on this board and is a very consistent full back available at a good price. No brainer for me. But it looks like LVG wants someone else. I just hope that he hasn't decided to stick with Valencia because one day he's going to seriously injure the first man.

09 Jun 2015 12:17:08
Not at all surprised, but some on here seemed to get carried away and used to the idea of Alves at right back, still think we've dodged a bullet, however, I think Clyne would probably be the best bet and with Liverpool going in at 10m straight away it's slightly encouraging as to what Southampton are probably asking, I'd say anywhere around 15-20m would be a good bit of business.

09 Jun 2015 12:19:50
Injure the first man, that's funny :P.
Maybe he still thinks Rafael can make it and have Valencia as backup.

09 Jun 2015 12:36:39
Coleman or Clyne it has to be then. Preferably Clyne.

09 Jun 2015 09:36:14
Just sat here thinking of a scenario where we signed both Cavani and Benzema. With Depay Mata and Hererra that would be an abundance of goal scoring talent from all angles!!

09 Jun 2015 10:33:50
I am sat here thinking of a scenario where we signed Milner and Ings for there mighty goalscoring talents but in all seriousness there sound signings for a mediocre midtable team

09 Jun 2015 12:07:30
Sat here thinking that you really love LFC as you keep bringing them up on a site for Man Utd talk. Come out the closet guys you will sleep better at night. 😋

09 Jun 2015 12:53:08
No. Its just brilliant laughing at them.

09 Jun 2015 16:20:40
4 People disagreed that signing Benzema and Cavani along with the goalscorers we have in mid would bring goals from all angles? Just shows the level of intelligence and football know how many have on here that makes it a clique club for the doom mongers

09 Jun 2015 16:26:13
Just getting some revenge for last year when we finished 7th and they were the world beaters who were going to attract all the talent in the world and we were the ugly ducklings who wouldn't manage to sign any big players.

09 Jun 2015 18:55:13
I mean listen, we started last season with Rooney, RVP, and Falcao and didn't really score 'goals from all angles' did we?

09 Jun 2015 22:09:04
What a ridiculous reply ruud we had rooney in midfield who is nowhere near the clinical finisher of benzema or Higuain rvp was injured and is way past his best and falcao came back to fitness near xmas and failed to repeat his previous feats following said injury. Absolutely diabolical response considering also hererra was playing deep in that mix I am shocked at how bad your response is.

09 Jun 2015 07:15:19
I'm going to try and not look at this or any other speculation site until the window opens. The questions are generally so repetitive, it's becoming tedious, and there really isn't anything else to say at the moment.

As for the so called press, I suppose they are working on the infinite number of monkeys principle. If they link us with everyone, then a) anyone any other club signs = a disaster for us, and b) maybe sooner or later they'll get one right.

I'll just have to be content with watching the women's world cup.

09 Jun 2015 09:56:11
copa American is due to correct me if I'm wrong but I'll be watching that

09 Jun 2015 10:09:13
The Under 20 World Cup as well!