Manchester United Banter Archive May 09 2019

 

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09 May 2019 22:12:22
Don't think Geoff boycott will be invited back on mutv anytime soon 😂.

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09 May 2019 22:22:18
He should be the front runner for the technical director job.

He has had a serious illness and still talks more sense than some of our ex players come pundits.

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09 May 2019 22:45:51
That was fun to watch and you could tell he was still being generous. I couldn't believe they were broadcasting that sh*tshow of an event live but then remembered we have the womens and youth teams who deserve the accolades this season.

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10 May 2019 00:43:15
Shaw winning 2 awards says it all, we really are a s show.

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10 May 2019 09:19:09
FZZ, did you vote? Shaw won because he was voted for by fans.

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10 May 2019 09:28:45
Why would I vote? I have zero interest in stupid awards nights. Why award failure.

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10 May 2019 11:16:24
The same could be said about voting in the political sphere. The point of voting is to have your say, you can't refuse to have your say then complain about the outcome.

I thought Lindelof had a very good season, if he can continue on the trajectory he has been on this season then we could have one of the best defenders in the league in a season or twos time. He is who I voted for. He didn't win.

As a side note both the fans and the players independently voted for Shaw on different awards, so he must be doing something right. However, the vote was a month ago, had his performances over the last couple of weeks happened just before the vote then I would imagine we would have had a different outcome. Just goes to highlight how important timing is when it comes to these sort of votes.

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09 May 2019 17:51:10
When Lucas was available on cheap. we were showing unlimited trust on academy lad and English international Lingaard.

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09 May 2019 18:23:30
I remember clearly people stating 'he's a psg reject, why would we want him? '

Been brilliant for spurs. Much better than that mug Lingard.

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09 May 2019 18:24:50
Lucas has had a few good 20 minute spells in his whole Spurs career. If he was so good why didn't he make a difference in the first half, or the first leg. Origi scored twice for Liverpool the other night yet he is still a poor player and will never be first choice for Liverpool.

Lucas is a limited player, push and run, shoot with his left foot after cutting in from the right. A poor mans Arjen Robben. PSG were happy to sell for a reason.

Personally although he might not grab the headlines, Jessie Lingard is a more useful player over 90 minutes and throughout a whole season.

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09 May 2019 18:41:10
That mug lingard? Redwhiskey give your head
a wobble pal.

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09 May 2019 18:50:24
Shappy I have to disagree about lingard what does he offer other than run around a lot. He doesn’t create any chances he doesn’t score he doesn’t tackle I fail to see the benefit of having him on the pitch. Could you please enlighten me.

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09 May 2019 18:50:48
Spot on again Shappy we've been judging everything on a game by game basis for some time now.

If you rewind the clock a few weeks Rashford was the best young striker in the world when he scored his penalty against PSG now he's a washed up bum at only 21 years old.

Solskjear "got the Club" only a few short months ago now he's an inexperienced chump that got sacked from Cardiff.

Oh and Lucas Moura is now the best thing since sliced bread apparently until he has a bad game and then he'll be rubbish again no doubt. I've not read one single post saying we shouldn't have let him go to Spurs before last night and how long has been at there for now? Full credit to the bloke amazing performance last night but let's see him do it every week before we start pining for what could have been.

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09 May 2019 18:52:51
Lucas hasn’t been brilliant for Spurs. A few top class performances, but missing more often than not.

Lingard is a worse player, and would be nowhere near our first team if he wasn’t an academy graduate he’d be nowhere near the first team.

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09 May 2019 18:57:53
And how right we were to trust Lingard, with the important goals he’s scored for us.

Shappy has it absolutely right about Moura (and Lingard) .

Some posts slagging our own players are going beyond embarrassing now.

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09 May 2019 19:07:44
I can guarantee Lucas in the set up we started under Ole, played on the right would have done much more than Lingard. Tired of the love affairs with academy graduates. Call a spade a spade, simple as. Lingard is dross. And we wonder why we're sinking into mid table when we're relying on players who's best attribute is his bloody dancing!

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09 May 2019 19:14:20
That poor man's Robben is miles batter than our headless chicken. since his arrival he took his time in sattling. Like most you guys give time of a season for a new player from different league. ( When we buy them) . And now after Kane's injury he is getting more chances. And he is taking it.
You guys should remember that he was SAF target, we tried hard for him . but PSG pull him away.

Don't drag other players here. it's simple comparison of Lingaard vs Lucas. And how academy lads+ English is favoured to much.

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09 May 2019 19:26:07
Moura is a decent player. He scores more than lingard and creates more than lingard and gets you off your seat more than lingard.
All that said jessie does have some very good attributes and is worthy of a place in our squad imo. Often turned up in big games.
Imo moura is the better player of the 2 maybe because i prefer his style of play more and there is more excitement with him.
Great buy at today's prices and we should have bought him. Not based on last night but based on the fact he would have added plenty to our attack.

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09 May 2019 19:48:04
What has being a Sir Alex target got to do with it? Sanchez was a Sir Alex target before he went to Barcelona. Zaha was a Sir Alex target before he stunk out the place upon signing. Sir Alex is arguably our greatest ever manager, yet he still got some transfer wrong.

As for Lingard I understand why he is underrated by many people, his antics make him hard to like to most people who aren't 17 years old. His talents lie in the work he does off the ball, as did Carrick's. All be it in a very different part of the pitch. Lingard is a hard working runner who puts a shift in defensively, makes intelligent runs to open up space for his team mates, while also having enough talent to score some vital goals.

If you want to bring Sir Alex in to it, he always played Park Ji Sung in the big games, not because he was one of our best players but because of his work rate and industry, as well as a perchant for scoring key goals in big games.

I'm also a little surprised by the number of fans who slag our players off every week for a lack of effort, yet seem perfectly happy to slag Lingard off for the actual hard work he does. Seriously you can't win with some of you moaners.

Your the sort of people who complain about it always raining, then the moment we get a sunny spell your complaining about it being too hot and that you want it to rain to stop your grass dying out.

Pick a side and stick to it.

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09 May 2019 19:56:32
Lucas Moura usually only starts when Kane isn't fit but still has 15 goals for a second choice player. I'd love someone at United who wasnt a first choice who could do that.

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09 May 2019 19:59:29
In my opinion Lingard needs to play just behind Rashford where he can press from the front, link the play and cause teams problems with his movement. If he was given a run of games in that position I think he'd be much more consistent and effective. I don't think he's particularly suited to playing from the right that's why I believe a right sided forward is essential in the summer.

Like I've said previously someone like Sancho right, Martial left with Lingard in behind Rashford would be a young, exciting and dynamic quartet. I'd sell Pogba and look to sign a combative, aggressive, mobile defensive midfielder as well as prioritising a CB to partner Lindelof.

Many won't agree but I think our team could be transformed just by signing a really good CB, CM, RW and reverting to a 4-2-3-1.

I'm not talking about winning the league but certainly being good enough to compete with the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs whilst playing a more progressive and dynamic brand of football.

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09 May 2019 20:03:08
The OP has a point but picked completely the wrong target. In January 2018 Spurs signed lucas moura who is traditinally a right winger. We signed Alexis Sanchez to play on the left wing when we had plenty of options to play left wing.

Sanchez was signed because mourinho didn't show enough trust or faith in rashford or martial and woodward wanted a Good PR moment getting one over city.

Signing lucas instead of him in hindsight would have been good business considering how much of a cataclysmic flop alexis has been.

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09 May 2019 20:10:33
Shappy 😂😂😂

DSG spot on there. Not sure why Lingard is singled out when we signed Sanchez.

Moura has done more for us than Sanchez has!

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09 May 2019 20:12:38
I remember people saying Lucas Moura wasn’t good enough, was past it, a hat trick with his wrong foot in a CL semi final, it’s poch who has brought him on.

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09 May 2019 20:35:16
Lingard vs Moura war. 😂😂😂
I wouldn't want any of them. Lingard is 26 years old people think he's young and has potential. Moura is a better player but i still wouldn't take him.

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09 May 2019 21:20:54
We got linked with moura at the same time as Sanchez, I would of took moura at the time over Sanchez.
That said I thought he would of done better than he has at spurs, but its difficult with kane in the team.

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09 May 2019 21:53:04
Lingard is like Carrick 🤔

Carrick did his best work on the ball, dictating the tempo of games, and linking midfield and defence. Lingard does his best work off the ball making runs. The problem is that sometimes he gets the ball after making a run, and when he gets it he doesn’t deliver 9 times out of 10.

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10 May 2019 08:38:17
Danny, it was Carrick's off the ball movement and his reading of the game that allowed him to control the tempo of the game, making himself an easy passing option and always know where he could off-load the ball before he got it. People used to slate him as he didn't run around like a headless chicken putting in last ditch tackles and throwing himself about. Everything he did looked easy, but that was because of his off the ball movement. But because it looked easy everyone thought he wasn't that good. That is why he was underrated for so long.

It's hard to understand unless you watch a match in the flesh. Off the ball movement is very hard to accurately pick up on TV as the cameras follow the ball.

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09 May 2019 13:20:19
Does anyone know if the ban imposed on Raiola is likely to stand?

If so, would this mean any likelihood of Pogba to Juve is gone?

Thanks!

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{Ed002's Note - It is of no consequence to Pogba.}

09 May 2019 13:48:18
The ban on Raiola, what was the ban for?

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{Ed002's Note - It is unimportant as far as Manchester United are concerned.}

09 May 2019 13:58:46
Nice to read a different subject on here.

I have no knowledge on why Raiola has been banned other than what is available for us to read online, it looks like a three month ban in Italy which he is challenging.

If Juventus were interested in Pogba I'm sure Raiola could help it happen one way or another.

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{Ed002's Note - It doesn’t make any difference to Pogba. No at all. Zippo. Nada. Move on.}

09 May 2019 14:12:44
Ed,

Can we cross Fernandes and Felix off the list as players available to us?

I don't reckon we would get any off them.

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{Ed002's Note - If you like.}

09 May 2019 14:20:33
Ahh. Just after posting this i checked online that City have stepped back fron Fernandes but don't know how much trust is in there.

Thanks Anyway! 👍.

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Review Of The Day 9th May 2019

09 May 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 9th May 2019

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09 May 2019 06:48:08
So to look forward to next season, shall we have a guess as things stand now, with Ole at the wheel and it looks like a Technical Director of an ex player like Fletcher, where we will finish in the league next season?

My guess, as things stand is 7th, with one of Wolves or Everton getting in front of us.

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09 May 2019 07:18:56
There’s no point in guessing. It’s just another excuse for people to have a moan.

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09 May 2019 08:13:32
With this squad, 7th. With the changes I’m hopeful to see, 3rd.

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09 May 2019 08:47:51
We can’t answer that question until September when we see who is the DoF and what squad we have.
Pointless discussing that now.

If Ole can get the team playing like they did when he first arrived from the start then top 4 is possible.

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09 May 2019 10:19:12
Completely with Wazza on this one. No point speculating as we have no idea what will happen. It's like speculating where we would have finished had Jose stayed in charge until the end of the season. Relegation maybe?

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09 May 2019 10:56:44
Wazza, perfectly and succinctly put, mate. It's just getting boring, now. How many times can I say the same thing in a different way?

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09 May 2019 11:44:52
How about we forget where we finish and hope we can just watch some decent football next year with players fully committed and trying their best. To have an identity and recognisable style of play. To watch a coherent team where everyone understands their role and plays for each other rather than themselves would be a good start.

Forget titles and trophies to win the league we'll need at least 90 points it's simply not going to happen. We need to start building a squad that is ready to challenge when the likes of Pep and Klopp inevitably leave in a few years time. At that point we need to be in a position to take advantage as they transition like we have.

Let Rashford mature and develop, find a partner for Lindelof. Bring through the likes of Greenwood, Gomes, Chong etc but don't judge them by the standards of the past or with City and L'pool. The truth is despite a torrid season there isn't much difference between us and the likes of Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal.

For me it's about changing the mentality in the dressing room and getting our identity back. Then we build from there.

For me I want to be able to take my seat at OT next season and see players sprint to the ball from minute 1, press, close down, deny the opposition time and space on the ball. I want to see us attack in numbers with mobility and pace and a determination to win the ball back when a move breaks down. If we play with commitment and desire we'll win most games and we'll be halfway there already.

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09 May 2019 12:49:31
RedMan. Champions. Happy with that? Or are you simply fuelling another anti-Ole rant.

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09 May 2019 13:04:49
Redman i have to say i have had so much good debate with you over the years we agree on some things and don't agree on others. However now I'm trending to skip your posts because you are repeating yourself or just having a dig for no reason.

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09 May 2019 18:08:53
Interesting, having seen us in slumps before, with the Scouse particularly in the 70’s and 80’s and now City sat above us, the rumoured changes really concern me, so my alarm bells are ringing a lot louder than others, that seems obvious. I warned about it with Moyes and had a similar response, let’s hope I am wrong this time.

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09 May 2019 20:54:03
Red Man, I don’t doubt you are right at all, you just don’t to tell us every day 😀.

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09 May 2019 21:02:11
Red man i yhink its safe to say everybody has heard your warning. So is there any need to give it daily?

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09 May 2019 21:39:13
Ken, AJH

Ha, I will give it a go, can’t promise if full of a couple of bottles of wine. Summer is coming and the cricket season, the excitement of the transfer window, I may get distracted 😀.

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08 May 2019 23:05:02
Last nights performance by Liverpool was amazing and something we can only aspire to in about 5 years time.
Woodward is very good at the commercial side of the business but should be kept well away from the footballing side. He is obsessed with star buys, such as Pogba, but is not capable of thinking about the development of the team.

We need a Director of Football who is knowledgable about the modern game, not Phelan or Rio Ferdinand, who are both out of touch. We need to develop a team and a style of play that is ours and not built upon star performances. We have OGS for 3 years, which may have been a mistake based upon early results. We don't have Klopp or Guardiola, which is a shame, but we must start building a new team, without players who don't want to be here or those who think we are just a money ticket.

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09 May 2019 10:58:24
Phelan, mmaybe. But I'd hardly call Rio out of touch to be fair to him. That doesn't mean I think he'd make a good DOF either, tho.

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