Manchester United Banter Archive September 09 2012

09 Sep 2012 21:45:03
Been thinking of who will succeed sir Alex and its tough I have 3 choices morinho, guardiola and o'neill
Morinho- won everything doesn't stay long though.
Pep- brilliant style great success works well with youth.
O'niell- been successful with all his clubs and he is experienced. Your thoughts everyone

Caolán.

O'Neill hasn't got a chance.

Sydney!

Has to be Mourinho. For me he is the only manager with ego and record to deal with the rediculous pressure of taking over the world's best manager.

Red Joe

O'Neill would be good if we wanted a rugby side.

Mourinho all the way for me.

Supasub

Can't believe O'Neill is on that list of 3. Shocking manager from a good source at Sunderland - just great at motivation / man-management as tells then all they are great but does no training or tactics!!

On to more serious business....

Mourinho is the outstanding choice.

He is already regarded as one of the world's greatest managers but there are 2 things he hasn't done:

1 - manage a national team to World Cup glory

2 - create a footballing dynasty

He said on a Five Live interview recently that he could never see himself managing another international team as the prospect of lining up against Portugal in say a World Cup final was just unthinkable. The chances of getting to a World Cup final with Portugal themselves are of course slim whoever manages them.

Managing Portugal is something he's admitted he would love to do however in essence when his managerial career is coming to an end. His last job as it were.

In the meantime a 49yo Mourinho can stamp himself in the history books not by just repeating his M.O. so far, i.e. win a leage, a cup, euro success etc then move on within a few seasons. His one true challenge left is to create a footballing dynasty. To go to a club like United and emulate, or try to emulate, the sustained success that Fergie has had over a prolonged period of time.

Mourinho himself has said its not possible to emulate Ferguson's success describing him as 'a one off'.

However, I am hopeful that Mourinho and Fergie's clear strong friendship, and the fact that one would expect Fergie to be very influential in who replaces him when the time comes, means Mourinho would be a very strong candidate to take over when SAF finally hangs his hairdryer up.

Halesini

09 Sep 2012 20:44:17
With all this Ronaldo talk, I've been thinking, what would be our strongest line up? So I decided I'd give one a go.

_______De Gea
Rafael_Evans_Vidic_Evra
_______Carrick
__Cleverley_Kagawa
_Nani_Rooney_Ronaldo

The first thing you'll notice is the omission of RVP, that's purely because we Kagawa is better than Rooney in the number 10 position and Nani's a better winger than Kagawa is. Which leads to the RVP Rooney comparison, which I think Rooney wins. For me, this is a tantalising prospect, it would be hands down the best attacking line in Europe with a very effective midfield, although maybe we could do with Fellaini or someone similar. The LB position is the real problem, I haven't seen Buttner and I'm not sure if Fabio will come good like his twin has.

Please post your own line ups, wouldn't mind seeing a few different ideas.

Percy

You need to get over the nani thing, Valencia or rvp would have to be in that team.

GDS

Percy, I am glad the club failed to flog Nani this summer as I would want a replacement in place first, but Valencia would always get the nod over Nani for me. I do not believe we will sign Ronaldo, but here goes:

_________De Gea
Jones__Small__Vidic__Butts
__Clevers__?.?.?__Kagawa
Ronaldo___Rooney___V.Persie

With Clevers, Kagawa, Ronaldo, Rooney & V.Persie as a forward line we do not need Rafael's attacking force, but would need a sturdier Jones. Smalling and Vidic would be the perfect partnership and anyone instead of Evra will make us stronger. Would need a tough midfielder in the middle. Carrick would not fit the bill, IMO Carrick does not suit our high tempo game. Good player, but Kagawa and Cleverley cannot play with him as he is so slow with his play. Kagawa and Cleverley are quick tippy tappy, one touch players and Carrick slows down the tempo.

Sydney! {Ed004's Note - I think that needs a left back and a DM}

_______De Gea
Rafael_Small_Vidic_
_____Clevs___Ando
_______Kagawa
__RVP__Rooney_Ronaldo

I'd go for that... Against a very strong team we could swap Carrick as a defensive mid instead of Kags...and maybe put a large scrub at leftback instead of the Plantpot.

RVP > Nani... Even out wide and cutting in leaving space for Rafael. (and I'm a fan of Nani)

Not seen Buttner, but seen plenty of Evra to know that horticulture would be an improvement.

DodgyBanter {Ed004's Note - Not a strong enough midfield IMO}

Jones is rubbish and always injured.

----------------DDG
Rafa---Smalling--Vidic---Anyone
----------Carrick--Cleverly
Toni---------Kagawa------Ronaldo
-----------------RVP

Now I for one would use any cash available to get 2 CMers in. If we had just got one in this summer we could be far better off. this is best with what we have + Ronaldo.

Jono

De Gea
Rafael Ferdinand Vidic Buttner
Vidal/Veloso/Moutinho?
Valencia Kagawa Ronaldo?
RvP Rooney

I think the attacking third is probably the best in World-Football. But the addition of maybe Chiellini/Mexes? For Ferdinand would give us solidity at the back pairing with Vidic

ALDUtd

09 Sep 2012 19:30:15
Moyes is crap long ball boring football

Pardoe

So wrong it's not even funny. Everton have been playing fantastic football for the last 9 months at least!

Percy

Percy, so lumping it up to Fellaini is fantastic football?

Sydney!

Look at what he is working with he is making the best of what he has got and can afford. At least he would bring some sort of loyalty alot of the foreign managers just flit in and out of jobs.He may surprise people with what he could do with the resources we would give him

"Everton have been playing fantastic football for the last nine months" ! - whats Moyes been doing for the last ten years??

And lets face it - they are lumping it up to "bad hair day" a bit

Mike

PS - I know thats a bit unfair on Moyes given his resources but - what the heck

Everton have a lot more money than Swansea.

DodgyBanter

And everton will finish above Swansea. Would u prefer great football and finish nowhere or scrappy football and get the results?

GDS

They vary their tactics, much like we do. In and around the box, Pienaar and Fellaini are great to watch.

Percy

09 Sep 2012 16:03:04
Anyone see nuck powells goal for england under 19's the other night? Great goal massive future ahead of him!

Caolán.

I didnt but Nuck Powell sounda like a fantastic karate move
Invisible STuey

09 Sep 2012 15:44:02
can't see glazers willing to buy back ronaldo for in
excess of 100 million, he's sulking because real madrid wont give him a new contract worth 500,000
grand a week, they will come to a compromise he'll except it and that will be the last time we hear about
him.

Well, call me a cynic but it seems to me as though The Special One has been angling for McBluster's job and he thinks the deal- clincher will be that he will bring that fairy back with him

Puzzled

Puzzled, you have so little to banter about due to your club being in an abysmal state that you are just telling us what we want to hear instead. Chin up, Liverpool may make the top half of the table this season, but doubt you will have much to banter about all season.

I do hear F$G are planning to trim the squad some more by next summer. We can loan you Josh king, Macheda or Bebe if you like?

Sydney!

Puzzled,

Fine by me, imagine our team moving in the next generation with our youngsters and ronaldo, rooney, rvp, kagawa, welbeck, hernandez and valencia as the attackers with mourinho bringing his tactical know how. You would have to worry about that surely?

By the way I dont think this would happen in any way!

GDS

It's because his taxes will rise after 4 years he wants more money I think he pays 28% at the moment an this will rise too 54% so over half his massive wage will be taxed so he is lookin at 500,000euros so he will bring home 230,000ish so if that is the case we could give him 250,000 after tax no worrys rid of ando an nani/young an your laughing plus there transfer fee 15-20mil for ando 20-25mil for nani 15-20mil for young so sell two tats 30-40mil then we need to know if they want euros or sterling. If its 100million euros then great 100mill sterling then could be a problem.

CAIN

Sydney - telling you what you want to hear?
No - telling it as I see it. How about this: Rooney has now been replaced by Van Persie - we are now in the end-game phase for shrek at Old Trafford - do you want to hear that?

Puzzled

Puzzled, when Rooney is fit he will partner RVP upfront this season or play just behind him in attack. Next summer it is judgement day for Rooney. He either accepts the contract offered to him by the club or he will be sold, there will e no middle ground. I think Lewandowski is nailed on to replace him if he is sold.

Sydney!

09 Sep 2012 15:18:30
Eds, with fellaini's comments about this being his last season do you think that sir alex would be in for him?

Ozzy {Ed002's Note - I could not second guess next summer's transfers at this time.}

TBH I could see it happening, what with Fergie often signing players who played well against us.
nov00

Nov00,

Often? Name 5?

GDS

09 Sep 2012 15:05:02
guys,how about gus hiddink(spelling)he is a good manager do u guys think maybe he can take over after saf leaves united,he is better then mourinho and gurdiala(sorry spelling)gurdiola had barcelona 2 coach even brendan rogers could have done a good job with them and the same goes 4 mourinho he had alots of money in chelsea and now he has cr7 in real and he got lucky 2 have won the champions league with porto so i think the best manager 4 us is guus hiddink(spelling) who just need 2 coach a good team and we are that team,i think saf has a suprise 4 us manchester united fans when he leaves.first choices 1 hiddink 2 mourinho 3 gurdiola what do u guys think about hiddink cheers guys,zee

Well did he also get lucky with inter?, he will guarantee trophies and we should all hope he takes over, the guy is a genius. If mourinho had been in charge at barca for last 10 years id bet my life they would have won 7/10 champs leagues

Mourinho spends what he needs to spend...he's not like Mancini, etc. who will spend for the sake of it.

I could understand if all be bought were superstars but people tend to forget he took players he trusted with him when he moved clubs, Carvalho, Ferrera, Essien, etc. all went from one club to the next with him.

Plus, he also young talents like Essien, Cole, Drogba, Cech and made them into some of the best players on the planet.

He could have gone out and signed players like Ronaldo, Figo, Ronaldinho, etc. but instead he chose to build a team.

I dont rate Pep personally, I think he's got the right coaching mentality but his overall managerial skills are poor, especially his transfer dealings. bar the obvious buys of Cesc, Mascherano, Villa, etc. he hasn't signed anybody without a reputation and made them into top draw players.

as for Guus Hiddink, I think when you look at a career spanning back over 25 years he hasn't exactly accomplished as much as what perhaps he should of. I have so much respect for him as a coach and if were to be the Manager I wouldn't complain but I think there are much better options out there.

1 thing he does have in his favour though is that he works with what he has. Surely a great thing for the Glazers!

However, due to his close relationship with Roman Abramovich I really can't see him taking us over anytime soon.

Onto to who I want as our manager, well my short list has 3 names on it;

1) Joachim Loew; Bar Mourinho he's the best young manager in the game today. what he's accomplished with Germany is truly brilliant. before he took over they were the get the job done team, now they're one of the best international footballing sides of the past 50 years.

2) Carlo Ancelotti - him and SAF are so alike in the way that they manage, my only concern with him is that at Milan he was handed a team, with Chelsea he bought a team and now he's buying a team with PSG. From what I've seen of his philosophy and coaching style though I really, really like him.

3) Mourinho - this hardly needs any explaining. without a shadow of a doubt the best manager in the world today and if he carries on winning the way he is now for another 10 years he'll be the best ever, bar none.

We're all going to have different opinions on this matter though, some will want Moyes because he's great on a budget and is scottish (which apparently makes him the next SAF), some will want Pep because of his playing style although he still has a lot to prove with me. Others will want Giggs, Scholes, Keane, Ole, etc. because of what they are to Manchester United.

Either way, whoever comes in after SAF will most likely have success in their own right.

The Moon.

Well i hope mourinho is good 4 us,but all i'm saying if we dont get him then i hope we get hiddink or gurdiola,i think hiddink is a good manager 2,but will mourinho come 2 us he never won the champions league with chelsea but i agree with u on this one,i think mourinho wants 2 win champions league with an english club thats the only thing he has not won in england,cheers man zee

Moon, I love Mourinho, I think he's top value and a brilliant Manager and character. But...it does sometimes feel like he would be high maintenance. If his heart was in it and he wanted to build another dynasty, and he he grasped that style is important, then bring him on.

AJH

Zee - As I said Hiddink wouldn't be the worst choice but I don't think he'll be the man.

AJH - Completely agree mate, but at the same time when SAF leaves it'll be a time of wondering if we go back to our old ways pre SAF, so I'd have Mourinho short term as well if it meant steadying the ship.

I do think Mourinho will be our next boss though. However if we think we'll be another 20+ year manager then we're all mental.

The days of loyal owners/managers are long gone and I'm afraid we'll probably be looking at changing manager every 4/5 years or so if we've lucky.

The Moon.

Why is Moyes name not in the mix he runs everything at everton like Fergie it's not just about the first few years after Fergie but the groundwork that is put in to continue our youth development. Campo58

Could Moyes handle a big club though? Its one thing keeping Everton up and pushing for Europe on a budget of buttons, which i'm not knocking him its a great achievement, that some managers couldn't have done. But could Moyes cope with the pressures of United? having to fend off City/ Chelsea? Having a bigger budget and having to shop at Harrods not at Tesco's? And coping with superstar ego's?

Pep would be good as he would hopefully use the younger players and build a style. But I agree with Moon on his buying.

Loew i like but National teams are a lot different to club management.

Mourinho is the outstanding option, can handle pressure, used to big clubs I mean he's worked for the only 2 clubs that are as big or bigger than us - Barca and Madrid. I think he would use our most promising kids as he'd use his budget to get in a couple of players to plug the gaps. Its not like he needs sums like Roman was giving him after all.

I do think we'd face major competiton from City and Chelsea thoguh to sign him once he announced he was leaving RM. I get the feeling Di Matteo is just a glorified care taker, and Mancini will go if City can't make an impression in Europe.

Mort

Moyes is crap long ball boring football

Pardoe

09 Sep 2012 14:41:19
Christ! Ed002 has lived in some interesting places.
Is that purely because of your job ed002?

Supasub {Ed002's Note - And wives.}

Probably married to supermodels or croupiers!

Supasub

Or even royalty!
Ok I'll stop the guessing game now...

Supasub

Now ed002 is really confusing me. :) !

Or ! the mind boggles :) lol

Mike {Ed002's Note - Many years ago I was caught waxing someone else's T-Bird which eventually led to my marringing a French woman.}

Yes mike, for a few months I though ed002 was a women (well was led to believe that by some). Now I think as I've thought for some time that he is infact a man and a very well travelled one.
Keep up the good work Eds.

Supasub {Ed007's Note - Don't fall for her little lies, believe me Ed002 is ALL woman!}

Edoo2 is an Air hostess !!!!!!!!
Cosh

Ed007 - after your "anticipation" the other day - I sure hope so for your sake :) - however to be fair - "Each to their own"
:)
Mike

As far as I am aware ed002 is the partner of bond (ed007), unless they have been giving us an elaborate wind up for no reason for the last 2 years I would believe this to be the case.

GDS

Being the serious no nonsense type, Ed 002 finds Bond's sense of humour too juvenile to ever commit to a full time partnership. I heard a rumour though that she does pursue him thrice weekly due to his prowess in the field of bedroom gymnastics, lol ;)

Red Spark

09 Sep 2012 14:03:50
a journalist has just asked brendan rodgers,after all the ins and outs of the summer how far away from a good team are liverpool.he replied about half a mile if you cut through stanley park
johndenton

09 Sep 2012 13:12:44
Would the village person who wrote this to me please give a name because stupidity like yours ought to be recognised. Something tells me you will stay silent: Manchester United are a football team and a business. One is no more important than the other. They both need each other to survive. Who owns Manchester United is not important either. Players are bought every summer transfer window and others move on....thats business. The fact that the Glazers haven't spent the same figures as Manchester City or Chelsea is irrelevant. We don't need to spend massively every season on overpriced players. The Glazers may not be everyones favourite owners, but the success has not ended under them. The way they have bought the club is normal business. businessmen do not use their own money....they use other money to buy businesses.
The way they run it, is their business....it's their club. They own it, the profits are theirs to do with what they want....like it or lump it....It's not your club, you just support Manchester United...they own it......................................... Come on you said it now give us your name. I AM KLOOT

Dont hold your breath
johndenton

Wasn't me but he is right, although not spending their own money I have no clue about.

Pardoe

Sorry Kloot It was me.
David Gill

I have said here before that every single poster should have to use a name, either real or a nickname. If they choose not to, the Editors should assign a name to correspond with the IP address, even if it's just a number. There must be an easy way for a programmer to do this.

J Bones.

I AM KLOOT. I sent a mail yesterday in response to the OP 'Alexander Chapman Ferguson' but it did not get through the Ed's. I found it incredible that Loserpool Posters could attack one of our own without someone backing you up (even if your views are not in line with most posters). I just thought it showed very bad form.

J Bones.

KLOOT is one of those people that likes confrontation and taking liberties then trying to grease out of it by passing it off as banter, the 'wit of chavs'. If he wants to alienate himself further leave him to it.

Whistler.

{Ed007's Note - J.Bones the reason your post wasn't posted yesterday was because I deleted the whole the whole thread, it should never have been posted and I apologised to KLOOT. And as for the clown trying to impersonate KLOOT, you have been banned long term from the site, as does everyone who tries to do that.}

I have to be honest, I didn't think it has been KLOOT posting as he has a little more class than some of the things that's been posted. I did think they were a little amateurish personally.

Sydney!

09 Sep 2012 12:35:53
.....................de gea..................
Rafael...Hummels....Vidic...Buttner
...................Fellani....................
.....Valencia..Rooney...Ronaldo.....
.....................RVP..................... {Ed004's Note - I know it would be a good team but Ronaldo doesnt count as two players}

Fellaini? He won't come to us

Add welbeck to the mix:D

We have too many foreigners already, remove Rooney and this is not MUFC in my opinion but just a bunch of mercenaries playing in our strip!
RedSince68

And Fellani is not a defensive mid-his best position is attacking mid/2nd striker.

DodgyBanter

Hummels is too similar to Vidic in his style of play. You need a battler and a player that tidies up behind him and that is a good ball player. Rio and Vidic are the perfect pairing for this very reason. Smalling is the natural successor to Ferdinand. Jones is the natural successor to Vidic. Hummels is a quality player and certainly wouldn't moan if he replaced Vidic in a couple of years time, but Jones will be ready by then and Smalling and Jones are almost certain to become our long-term CB partnership so wouldn't expect to see £25m or so blown on a CB like Hummels.

Fellaini for me is not a very good defensive midfielder, far too slow and would slow down our tempo somewhat. His best position is behind the striker and that is where he was so effective against us. Fellaini would cost upwards of £25m and to be honest I would not pay that for a player like that as we do not play the long-ball game like Stoke or Everton so it would be a pointless signing IMO. Witsel was a player we looked at for midfield and he was comfortable on the ball, powerful and he is quick. I think a player like this is far better suited to our game than someone like Fellaini.

I also think there is very little chance of seeing Ronaldo in a United shirt again. Wishful thinking to say the least. I think Aguero and/or Silva would be offered up in a deal to take him to the Etihad. Ronaldo would be a massive coup for City and they would pull out all the stops to get him. Ronaldo may prefer to move to United, but we wouldn't pay him £400k a week and RM would make sure he went to the highest bidder and that wouldn't be us. Perhaps Rooney could be offered up in a deal, but RM would certainly prefer Aguero.

Sydney!

RS68, I agree that we should have more English players in the starting line-up. Smalling, Jones, Rooney & Cleverley should be in every competitive line-up IMO.

Sydney!

Syd

I diagree, i think jones can play better than smalling as in hes more composed and can play rb and mf. smalling for me is the better defender. hummels for me is 1 of the top 3 cbs in the world. i woudnt be suprised if jones if used more of a oshea/brown type of player over the years. loads of us hyped him up when he came and said he would be a future united/england captain but to be honest there is no proof of that yet as hes still very inexperienced and that was shown alot last season. id be very happy with a cb pairing of smalling + hummels. i also wud like to see fabio battle it out with his brother for rb, he played against barca at rb and hes right footed. so id hav da silvas at rb and sell evra and buy another lb to compete with buttner.
sulei

Sulei, Smalling and Hummels would be an amazing partnership, however I can only see a Smalling/Jones partnership in my crystal ball ;)

Sydney!

I hope so aswell but with ferd, vidic, smalling, evans dnt think jones will get much time there this season

RS68

I saw what you were doing mate :)

StevieK

09 Sep 2012 12:13:00
hi guys,i soo a list with us on top of that list dont know if the list are rubbish or not but i love'd it,i just want 2 know what u guys think about it i know that our rivals dont like the list.13newcastle 6 m fans.12tottenham 11 m fans.11man city 18m fans.10juventus 20m fans.9bayern munich 24m fans.8 inter 49 m f.7liverpool 71 m f.6milan 99m f.5arsenal 113m f.4chelsea 135m f.3real madrid 174m f.2barcelona 270m fan. and the nr 1 team in the world manchester united 354m fans.soo i dont understand how some liverpool fans can say they are a global football club my a$$ they have 71m fans and we have 354m fans soo 2 u liverpool fans wake up it is not 70's or 80's people its 2010 and we manchester united are a global football club and i'm sure that we have more fans out their awesome,love manchester united and will always do that and guys i remember when i was 13 and whent 2 england and my grandpa picked me up from manchester united airport i think and we went 2,if i remember,nelson and elizabeth road,street zee

Jesus!

This post took two years to come through ;-).

Jono

Stop living in the past... It's 2012!!

DodgyBanter

:) i know jono,i get nervous sometimes i write english dont know if i'm writeing right or wrong,your comment made me laugh in a good way mate cheers:)zee

09 Sep 2012 11:03:23
In reply to RD19 post about ronaldo.

this is what id do:

January:
IN:
CB: 10-15M

2013 SUMMER:

IN:
Ronaldo 80M?
And a few youngsters.


OUT:
Nani 25M
Hernandez 20M
Bebe 1-5M
Some youngsters.

Team:

_________De Gea_________
Rafael__Vidic__Ferd__Buttner
_____Carrick___Clevers_____
Ronaldo___kagawa___Rooney
______RobinVanPersie______

this leaves us with cover in every position.

i Know we rotate but we'd have a very strong 2nd team also.

_________lindegaard
jones__smalling__new CB__evra
______anderson_fletcher______
valencia____powell______young
__________welbeck

we would also have Fabio coming back from loan and evans would still be here.
hopefully lingaard would get a chance as well.

id expect Giggs to retire and I'm hoping scholes stay for one more season as a bit part player, player 5-10 games a season most being sub appearances.

I know people would be against selling nani and hernandez but i don't see where they'd fit in if we got ronaldo back, if we play with one striker then if RVP gets injured we'd have rooney, welbeck and ronaldo wo can cover there and we would have young and valencia to cover the wings.
(sorry for long post)

JK92

We will never get 25m for nani now mate. Next summer he will have us by the pods and could easily just hang around for one more year and pocket all the dough from us and his new club. We should have gotten rid last summer never mind this summer and we now have another Berba as such which without game time we can't shift him.

Jono

Jono, I think we may give him a two-year extension and sell him next summer if we cannot sell him in January.

Sydney!

Personally jk92 I don't think that team is strong enough. Are midfield is not good enough and Ronaldo wouldn't get the supply he needs and our left back isn't good enough and Ronaldo won't be offering him much protection or Rooney. I think a CDM such as Wanyama and M'Vila are essential. I have faith in Cleverley he will get better but he needs someone better defensively beside him. We would require a solid left back. We have enough options attacking so a solid left back like baines would be needed. By selling Evra and Anderson we wouldn't have to spend much getting two more players.
The Red Manc

09 Sep 2012 10:23:43
Now I did promise myself that I wouldn't post about Ronaldo again. But I can't help it as the potential resigning for him is extremly exciting. The news today carries on the story, I'm just hoping that they aren't lying this time. If he is at odds with players then it could be that the only solution for Madrid is to let him go. There would be a number of benefits why signing Ronaldo would be a brilliant move. An important one I feel is that he would bring the best out of Nani - Nani plays at his best when he is with Ronaldo, so this could provide a stunning wing partnership, better than what we had when he first left the club...

With the possibility of Rooney dropping into midfield also, that gives us other possibilities. However the potential success of his playing their is very hard to say. Personally, this is a line up that I would love to see us go with if Ronaldo came back into the team:

____________De Gea
Rafael___Smalling__Vidic___Evra
___Cleverly__Carrick__Kagawa
Ronaldo______RVP_______Rooney

That would be a very fluid and flexible front 3 with Kagawa being the most advanced midfielder. Cleverly would perform more of a box2box role and Carrick would sit and shield the back four which he is his most adept role.

Its fair to say that signing Ronaldo would mean that we would have no cash to spend elsewhere, however depending on the performances of Kagawa, Cleverly, Anderson and the return of Fletcher, we may not need anyone. Also Fabio will hopefully return to be ready for first team football regularly.

We'd also have plenty of other options on the bench with Welbeck, Nani, Valencia etc all able to come on and offer something different. I'd say that the squad does no longer have many players that could be classed as surplus to requirements. However Nani or Young would be profitable assets which we could use for cash. I certainly wouldn't wish for Rooney or Nani to leave for Ronaldo to come in - however letting Young go would not be too much of a problem in my eyes.

RedDevil19

09 Sep 2012 02:41:14
Anyway, just found out my dad once drove through Liverpool once before I was born so not talking to him now :)


Ports

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Not been on for a little bit, just scrolled down the site and this comment made me laugh out loud ports. Some decent banter going on for a non united weekend. Plenty of scousers coming out of the woodwork (at least they didn't drop points this weekend, 1st time this season!)

I have quite a hatred for Liverpool fans as I feel they are bitter and most that I talk to hate united with a passion. It is a little pathetic and their hatred and horrible comments towards united have made me hate their club even more. I think most Liverpool fans are just jealous and bitter about uniteds success and their culture has forced them to have the view about united that they have. They cant sit back and look at how they behave towards united and think it may be over the top, they have lost their ability and bitterness has replaced where sense of humour used to be.

That being said, other than football views I get on with people from Liverpool and have friends from there, just the football rivalry is crazy and I think you have to actually hear a Liverpool fan speak about united to understand it properly.

Thought I would give my opinion.

Looking forward to hopefully a little easier 3 points on saturday, no more 3-2s for a while my heart can't take it!

GDS {Ed007's Note - This is all shocking to me. Where I am from we have some nice friendly banter and openly mix watching games at the grounds or in pubs. I wish we had such passionate rivalry up here GDS ;-)

Haha bond, I can only imagine!

GDS

Bet he kept on driving Ports or his car wouldn't have been there when he got back. I AM KLOOT

GDS

Thanks mate, just trying to make light of a debate that was starting to get a bit nasty.

KLOOT
That's good banter, more of that please!

As for Liverpool FC and their supporters, I got to say, if it wasn't for them and their rivalry, maybe we wouldn't of got to the top. Every champion needs a rival, Ovett & Coe, Larry Bird & Magic Johnson, Ali & Fraizer, England & Australia, USA & Europe, knocking them Scousers of their perch was the mission when SAF came in and that's the drive, to become the most successful club in England and to stay there, unfortunately there will always be an irritating itch that won't go away and that itch is LFC and their supporters but they can keep on because don't forget, there one time hero, Michael Owen had to come to us to achieve what he never could of or would of at Liverpool, win the title and despite Gerrard's and Carragher's achievements in the game, their is an empty spot in their medal cabinet which they will never fill and all the banter Liverpool supporters throw on here, you can't knock their resilience because I for one would hate to be living in the past and striving for the impossible dream, but whilst they are, this is all the motivation our great club needs, to ensure that perch will never be sat on again by LFC, so I thank them and their supporters for ensuring our drive and motivation is still the same as it was on November 6th 1986!

Ports

Liverpool haven't been a competitive rival for many years. Of course there is a rivalry there, but not competitively in regards to the Premier League. Blackburn, Newcastle, Arsenal, Chelsea & City have been our rivals in that respect.

Sydney!