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20 Feb 2018 11:38:33
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20 Feb 2018 09:12:00
I expect pep will be telling his board that he needs to spend at least 300m in the next transfer window if they want him to be able to make a serious challenge in the fa cup next year. 😄😂.

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20 Feb 2018 08:32:51
Is it just me or is there always some kind of controversy whenever a Pep teams loses? He or his players react badly, toys are thrown from the pram.

For someone who is supposedly a football purist, he certainly doesn't act with good grace or within the spirit of the game when his team loses.

Apparently his chat with the FA and the Referees was not about seeking some kind of advantage for his team but about protecting all football players.

Well that includes those that play for Wigan and instead of getting aggressive and in the face of officials and the opposition manager he should accept that the attempted tackle from his player was reckless, dangerous and could have seriously injured a player if contact had been made.

It seems Pep is a lovely well mannered football enthusiast when his team are winning, yet we see a very different side to him the moment his team loses, the vail slips and we see maybe the real him for just a moment. Maybe there are other reasons he doesn't stick around for more than 3 years at clubs.

The Aguero incident at the end was different from the Evra and Cantona incidents in that with the Frenchmen they went to the fans and attacked them across the barrier, where as last night the fans had crossed the barrier and confronted the player. Still the player has the responsibility to act in a certain manner and resorted to a violent action in the face of a verbal confrontation, thus escalating the incident. As such he should face a ban, but in the circumstances it shouldn't be as long as those of Cantona and Evra. 3-5 games should be around the right mark. Either way neither Aguero or Delph should be playing in the league cup final, which certainly makes that game far more interesting.

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20 Feb 2018 09:02:05
Liverpool fan in peace, just wanted to see what you boys where saying about that game last night, he is a hypocrite. he can`t whinge about protecting his players or all players and then moan when delph does the same style of tackle it wasn't a red but it was an extremely dangerous tackle that could of seriously hurt the Wigan player the one thing I hate is last night the media where defending everything Man city or Pep, oh he is allowed to react like that oh Aguero is in his right to basically punch a fan, oh the City fans are allowed to rip up Wigans stadium because theirs not enough stewards or police absolutely ridiculous.

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20 Feb 2018 09:31:07
100% agree with you kloppers.

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20 Feb 2018 09:57:40
The media love in will have to end at some point, I remember when Mourinho first came to England. During his first stint at Chelsea he was the media darling. It soon wears off.

If City don’t win the league cup or the UCL then how will the media portray they greatest ever side to play football only winning the league title. Effectively the same achievement at Leicester City a couple of seasons ago.

As for the reaction of the Man City fans, I feel they were showing a small club mentality in having a temper tantrum at the final whistle. Yes the Wigan fans goaded them, but any supporter of any traditional big club will tell you that goes with the territory of being a big club. As a United fan that is what we have been met with every time we lose a game to a supposed “smaller” club. Every time for the last 30 years at least. The same for Liverpool fans, and Arsenal fans, and Chelsea fans over the last decade.

It is something they are going to have to get used to as a new member of the “big” club brigade.

I still think it was a red card, it was dangerous and had he caught a planted leg then the Wigan player would have suffered a serious injury. It was reckless, it was out of control, it was high and it was studs up. Therefore it was dangerous and a red card is the right decision.

Pep wanted to get these kind of challenges out of the game for the protection of the players, so he has to accept his players red card with good grace.

Unfortunately it doesn’t sound like the media love in will end anytime soon though, in the car this morning I subjected myself to talk sport, and on there they were defending Aguero saying he has a right to assault a fan if they invade the pitch, and he surely can’t be banned for that.

They said how the FA have to investigate Wigan for allowing their fans onto the pitch, and how a lack of stewards lead to violence and advertising hoarding being ripped up and thrown at police. They way they said it insinuated that it was Wigan fans causing trouble in the stands and not Man City’s. Nothing mentioned about how the FA will have to investigate Man City for failing to control their fans, nothing about Pep being overly aggressive on the side line and in the tunnel.

So it looks like somehow the media will continue to turn a blind eye to Pep, his players and Man City fans wrongdoing in order to continue singing his praises.

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20 Feb 2018 10:01:36
Spot on Shappy. The way Pep behaves when things don't go his way is just ridiculous.

The media absolutely love him and so do the pundits, and for them, he and his team can never do any wrong. Yesterday's tackle was a bad one. Delph was rightly sent off, whether the ref changed his mind because of players or because of assistance is irrelevant. I can bet a million pounds that the way Wigan's players surrounded the ref after the tackle, city's players would have done the same.

City for the crying and the whining are equally bad when it comes to bad tackles. Fernandinho is no bloody saint, he is guilty of a few bad tackles, whenever City lose the ball.

As far as the pitch invasion goes, then yes, that should not happen, but it's criminal for a player of Aguero's stature to hit a fan.

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20 Feb 2018 07:38:49
Will referee taylor be suspended for ignoring the rules and not sending pep off. He should be banned too.

On aguero. It was not the same as cantonna in any way.
I don't excuse him and a ban will come his way but it was nowhere near the same type of offence as cantonna.

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20 Feb 2018 07:44:40
Will a ban come his way? I don’t think it should he did nothing wrong for me.

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20 Feb 2018 08:23:01

He hit out at a fan, how can you think he did nothing wrong?

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20 Feb 2018 08:47:04
Letter of the law says he did something wrong because apparently there is no circumstance where a player can confront a fan for his or her actions.

He's just a man . Fan gets in personal space of the guy and he pushed him away, aggressively.

I'm sure aguero will get some sort of fine because he will get 'should act in an appropriate manner' line but for me, wigan should be receiving a hefty fine due to fans coming onto the pitch.

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20 Feb 2018 09:16:15
Aguero should be banned, nowhere near cantona incident. But he had no business chasing after that idiot after the initial confrontation.

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20 Feb 2018 09:57:52
Self-defence. He feared immediate violence will be the defence, and rightly so. If I was confronted like that by some neanderthal, I'd be looking to protect myself, by getting my action in first. Totally defendable in my opinion.

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20 Feb 2018 10:01:49
If you have a disagreement with someone in the street and you respond by lashing out at them regardless of what they said it is you if have broken the law.

You can defend yourself with reasonable force, punching someone because they said something you didn't like isn't reasonable force, its excessive force.

Why should the law of the land not apply on a football pitch?

Aguero attempted to punch a fan, therefore regardless of the circumstances he should be punished in some way.

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20 Feb 2018 10:17:49

Even if there is an argument for hitting the fan to get him away when he was feeling confronted, there is no justification for then chasing after him to attack him again, the guy was walking away at this point, are we meant to believe Aguero was still scared for his life from a teenager walking away from him?

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20 Feb 2018 10:34:24
Nou, in what weird World can Aguero chasing a guy be construed as self defence? Do people in England run after people and try and beat them up as self defence?

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20 Feb 2018 10:48:47
The guy swung for Aguero. If the idiot fan doesn’t firstly enter the pitch, and secondly confront the player, the incident doesn’t occur. Nothing wrong with his reaction.

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20 Feb 2018 10:52:55
Actually, Shappy, in criminal law, if you fear immediate violence from someone, you are allowed to strike first. If you can prove that the other person was ready to strike, ie. clenched fist, movement into your space etc, then you are allowed. That 'fan' was all over Aguero, when he shook him off. Entitled to defend himself.

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20 Feb 2018 10:53:25
CSM, you're only watching the aftermath. Watch it from the start.

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20 Feb 2018 11:00:46
GDS, no. Once he takes the initial act, and the male (teenager, so what? ) walks away, then the threat is over, and he shouldn't have carried on. At that point, it's just pure temper. But there is a crowd around him, and adrenaline was probably pumping. Easy to comment from the outside.

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20 Feb 2018 11:18:04
I liked it .
I hate all the pampered stuff around footballers it's nice to see there human every so often .

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20 Feb 2018 11:25:11
You liked aguero hitting a fan and then going back for a 2nd attempt. Says it all really. Classless.

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20 Feb 2018 11:25:48
Shappy. if somebody walked up to a player on the street or anybody on the street for that matter, you walk away unless you feel threatened and have to defend themselves.

But if somebody came into my place of work or my home and came up to me aggressively and I feared for myself and safety, they wouldn't be long knowing about reasonable force.

How do you know what the fan said or attempted to do? When do you say it's okay to use force?

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20 Feb 2018 11:35:10
Plus, I've watched the footage over and over again. The initial contact, when the fan is right on him, looks more like a shrug away. Then when he chases him, it looks like he was thinking of throwing a punch. I really couldn't be sure that an actual punch was thrown. Maybe I'm watching the wrong clip.

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20 Feb 2018 06:58:29
So onwards to Seville match. I really hope we don't go there for a nil nil because scoring aeay goals is so important.
If Mourinho decides to continue playing two in midfield, then I can see us conceding at least two goals.
However, if he can remove the blinkers and put matic hwrerra and pogba together with Sanchez lukaku and martial or mata, then I can see us scoring two.
Seville are a good side and especially at home. But they've not had a great season. If we pack the midfield and get an early goal, then their fragile confidence will disappear. If we sit back and let them come onto us, then this tie could be over before they to OT.

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20 Feb 2018 08:25:04
Extremely confident the tie won’t be over before they come to OT, especially not the opposite way. A draw would be fine, a win would be excellent, Jose knows how to play knockout football and win European trophies, I have no worries at all that he will get it right tomorrow.

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20 Feb 2018 10:16:21
AAA, I'm not sure what to make of this post. On one hand you say Sevilla aren't playing great and their confidence in fragile, then you go on to say you expect them to smash us unless we play 433.

Those statements kind of contradict each other. We aren’t playing amazingly well atm, but we aren’t playing really poorly either. Mourinho is the master of knockout competitions, his pragmatic style is far more suited to cup competitions than league competitions in my opinion. His 17 cup wins to 8 league titles in his 17 year managerial career is a testament to that in my opinion.

I expect a tight game away to Sevilla, 1-0, 0-1, 1-1, 2-1, 1-2 or 2-2. Mourinho will not want to lose this tie in the first game, this is a tie we should be expected to get through. If we go 2-0 up at any point expect the bus to be parked. That might come back to bite us, or we might hold on. We actually have a good defensive record this year. If we can score two goals away then baring a massive collapse at Old Trafford which is unlikely we should be through as for any team to come to Old Trafford and score three or more goals is a tough ask.

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Review Of The Day 20th February 2018

20 Feb 2018 05:15:08
{Ed's Note - Tris Burke has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 20th February 2018

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20 Feb 2018 08:14:05
Great read ed and a fabulous point about city's carefully selected image we got to see the real city yesterday manager, players and fans the paragons of all thing beautiful within the sport are not so squeaky clean after all.

It almost felt like genuine distain a case of "how dare you beat us Wigan do you know who we are".

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{Ed001's Note - that was exactly how it felt. As well as Pep's hypocrisy over nasty tackles being fully exposed, but of course the media will still verbally masturbate over him and denigrate Wigan for having the gall to beat them.}

20 Feb 2018 09:08:03
Indeed ed it's already an almost unanimous "it wasn't a red card" Neil custis this morning saying that pep had the right to be furious because the wigan manager was asking the 4th official for a red card!? Of course he was it was a red card offense!

And I'm sorry I've also seen a lot of support for aguero actions and I'm not having it he struck another person whether provoked or not it's still the same kind of offence that would see you or I in trouble with the law.

I thoroughly enjoyed watching the mask slip a little and I'm just sad the chasing pack in the league are so far away because I honestly think they would implode under some real pressure.

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{Ed001's Note - I really cannot understand how anyone can defend Pep or Aguero. They both reacted badly and both deserve to be punished.}

20 Feb 2018 04:25:05
There goes the quadruple and the invincibility.

We need to try and win the FA cup. But if I was Pochetino I would take the FA cup even more seriously now.

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19 Feb 2018 22:04:01
Come on Wigan. Great win. It was a red card and if it was the other way, then the messiah will be wanting the player sent off. Incredible win.
And City fans showing their lack of class by destroying the stadium and throwing insults and punches at the Wigan stewards.

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19 Feb 2018 22:32:04
It's an absolute disgrace, Aguero swung for a fan too. I'd love to see the referees report from this one. I'm sure it's far from the image cities owners want to convey. Fair play to Wigan though, great defensive performance and a great striker in Will Grigg.

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19 Feb 2018 22:32:04
You said it yourself Pep, protect the players.

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19 Feb 2018 22:34:22
Disgusting scenes from Guardiola, his players and their fans. I guess money cannot buy you class.

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19 Feb 2018 22:53:47
He needs a six game stadium ban for his half time antics.

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19 Feb 2018 22:59:09
The irony of the red card is a thing of beauty.

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19 Feb 2018 23:04:47
It was absolutely disgusting how some of them reacted to the incident today and rightly so if that was United or Mourinho it would be a big story tomoorrow .

Just to let you if that was how mourinho behaves or our players i wouldve been just as annoyed.

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19 Feb 2018 23:20:55
Can't stand guardiola can't stand city. The man is nothing but a hypocrite.

I'm hoping there are consequences to some pretty strong scenes but I doubt it.

I take 2 things from tonight, the are out of a comp and realise they aren't unbeatable. Oh and they are not the same team without kdb.

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19 Feb 2018 23:36:09
I loved it when fergy dished out the verbal .
Cantona dropping that idiot was a highlight of the 90s for me .
Although to be fair 90s are a blur.

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19 Feb 2018 23:53:55
It was a red all day long, reckless and over the ball. We've said lately that it's ironic that city want protection and then behave like they did. Guardiola didn't like the Wigan managers reaction because he knew that it was exactly how guardiola would react if it were the other way round. I also thought the diving and screaming of Danilo and Bernardo Silva in particular was shameful.
None of it will get mentioned though. Then comments at the end of the game saying they've knocked out one of the best teams we've seen ever? Wtf is that about? They could have a mighty fall.

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20 Feb 2018 00:07:29
Well said Deano they 100 percent aren't the same team with kdb even to an extent Sterling has played a big part for them nicking important goals at crucial times.

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20 Feb 2018 00:08:09
I agree supa city have been nothing short of magnificent this season that I concede, yet they still haven't won a trophy yet so the utter tripe about them being one of the best ever is ridiculous.

Oh and no treble this season bad luck lads 😂.

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20 Feb 2018 01:16:57
Mention of Cantona is relevant here. Aguero has struck a fan. I wonder what will happen to him. I would predict a 3 game ban and nothing else.

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20 Feb 2018 04:26:40
Will be very interesting to see if the press starts to turn the tide of love to hate against city after that behaviour. Can do very strange and destructive things to a manager and team. Mourinho doesn't get the credit he deserves for handling it as well as he does even if it does get to him sometimes.

Imagine if the wheels properly came off!

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20 Feb 2018 05:36:58
Too bad money can buy City any class. Disgrace for Aguero for hitting Wigan fans for celebrating Wigan's victory at Wigans OWN home ground.

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20 Feb 2018 06:43:13
And what irked me is Shearer saying it's only a yellow. If the Wigan player hadn't jumped off, we could be looking at a broken leg.
Then Shearer compounded his utter tripe of a commentary by actually trying to protect Aguerro at the end.
Fans should not be on the pitch, but there again, professional footballers should not be throwing punches or kicks at fans. If you do, you should get a cantona like ban. But he won't.
Get over yourself Shearer. You missed out on joining God's own team and we kept Solskjaer. We don't want Shearer he's effing dearer.
And lastly, Mourinho isn't my favourite manager, but if he acted like the Messiah did, he'll be looking at a full FA hearing and a 5 game ban. It'll be interesting to see what happens. Nothing in all likelihood.
Bottom line, City got beat and showed their lack of class by their behaviour. Small club small mentality.

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20 Feb 2018 10:02:49
The guy was in Aguero's face. It's not like he went looking for a fight. I've no issue with what he did. I understand fans coming onto the pitch after a result like that, but I'm sure it can be intimidating in certain instances for the opposition players, when they start circling them, and acting like cockwombles.

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19 Feb 2018 22:02:07
Very good chance of winning the FA Cup now, would be even easier if Dele Alli 🏊‍♂️ didn't dive to get a draw away to Rochdale, Fa cup win, finish 2nd, CL semis at least, who'd be happy with that?

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20 Feb 2018 05:44:48
It would certainly show progress.

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19 Feb 2018 22:02:05
Pep spitting the dummy again-PRICELESS!

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19 Feb 2018 23:55:04
Hate the little cheating pill popper.

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19 Feb 2018 21:57:38
Paul pogba out, kroos plus isco in, mourinho fist of iron strikes again, and if the money is right, lukaku will be gone too, rumours being blogged about from sources in spain.

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19 Feb 2018 22:26:11
What are you on about 82.

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19 Feb 2018 22:29:15
If all that happens I'll pull three rabbits from three hats and eat them all. It will be a hat-trick-hat-trick.

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19 Feb 2018 22:53:30
You forgot to mention ddg Sanchez and martial.

Daft post.

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19 Feb 2018 23:55:30
Look fellas, i'm not saying its gospel, i'm just relaying what some maracas weilding rumour monkeys in spain are talking about, and apparently a few sports radio stations are saying stuff along the same lines, could just be jibba-jabba and complete bunkem, or there again maybe a grain of truth, either way, fair do, i'll consider meself shot for being the messenger!

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20 Feb 2018 01:24:20
Jeez 82,what do you think you're doing posting rumours on a football rumours website?

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20 Feb 2018 05:03:05
Your right there, Chastized;tarred and feathered, wow, that was a great party last night! but your right MancMan, i'm off to sit on the naughty step beside pep and a few hundred classy citeh supporters from last night!

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20 Feb 2018 08:29:17

If you come on here and post nonsense but with big words to make it sound like it’s from higher up then act all offended when people call you out on it then no wonder people shoot the messenger.

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