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19 Apr 2024 11:38:48
Hi Ed001, can you give me your opinion on Joao Neves please? I know you probably have a long list of players to do profiles on, I was hoping for a tit bit in the mean time :)
{Ed001's Note - excellent technique, good range of passing and vision, but lacks a bit of mobility. Quite similar to Mac Allister in a lot of respects.}
19 Apr 2024 10:58:34
Well that's Nagelsmann ruled out. Looks like Pitter or ten Hag next season.
19 Apr 2024 11:18:39
De Zerbie as well in that surely?
19 Apr 2024 11:41:58
Unless we get royally spanked on sunday by a Championship side EtH has to be what we go with.
Guess Potter over other names like Southgate/ de Zerbi etc is available now and could theoretically be working behind the scenes already but with so many players signed in the Dutchman's vision surely we can't go for another complete reset.
It's been a dreadful season no doubt but a line should be drawn under it, with or without European football next season (preferably not, if it's the cruddy one Villa are in) and we see how we get on with one more window under ten Hag.
I really think failing to convince de Jong to join last season had a major impact on his plans. We ended up with Casemiro, who is a different kind of player, and Mount who may or may not be a useful player but seems to have no specific place in this team, at least while Bruno is in it. De Jong dictates play. As does Casemiro by slowing it down to crawling pace.
18 Apr 2024 14:58:48
Rather damning revelation from Bastian Schweinsteiger regarding Murtough and Mourinho on the Overlap with Gary Neville.
18 Apr 2024 15:39:50
It's crazy stuff Ports.
Sancho faced the same fate.
18 Apr 2024 16:12:29
Same fate, different circumstances.
18 Apr 2024 16:24:01
My recollection was he was flying round the world watching his wife in tennis tournaments rather than rehabbing with Utd. I think there was noise in the media about it, and I suppose mourinho wanted to send a message that he is in charge. Haven't seen OL. Just remembering the issue from my foggy memory.
18 Apr 2024 16:44:56
I just watched it. That's mind blowing but the inevitable question is why?
18 Apr 2024 17:12:41
The why seems to be to intimidate other players. Wasn’t part of Jose’s plans, so used him to send a message - if the manager is willing to ban a player of Schweinstager’s stature from the dressing room, you either do what he says or the same will happen to you.
Not a good look for the club at all.
18 Apr 2024 17:16:06
The manager decided he was being unprofessional amd not putting team before self and not doing his best. Very similar reasons eth called sancho out.
18 Apr 2024 17:27:03
If you watch the whole video from basti it appears it wasn't 100% the manager and was also the club.
It also seems like it was all just a player liaison issue where he'd agreed his rehab/ training schedule for injury with van gaal. Then the club sacked him and no one made contact with basti to find out what the plan was/ had been. He then played for Germany in the euros or world cup and the club got annoyed with him, despite not knowing or finding out what had been agreed.
18 Apr 2024 18:58:34
Same thing happened with RVP about rehabbing away from the club in their home country and then conveniently becoming fit in time for an international tournament.
17 Apr 2024 20:27:54
What would posters like to see in the remaining games this season;
1. Give Youth a chance and blood a few more youngsters regardless of where Utd finish in the league.
2. Aim to finish as high as possible in the league.
Personally I'd go for option 1. Seeing a few more youngsters play this season would feel far more fulfilling than than watching the current cack. I'd certainly respect EtH more for doing that. I do understand that it isn't always easy to just a throw a Youth player in, but I feel like it is the perfect time to try this. Utd have nothing to lose now. (With the Exception of the FA Cup) .
17 Apr 2024 21:46:19
Option 2 for me. Blooding youth is not just throwing them in. Play too many and they get a thumping and it could impact them mentally, while you might see sections of the fanbase start to write them off.
We need a pretty substantial rebuild this summer, and that cost money. We need to finish as high as possible to make sure we are in the best position both financially, but also to make us as attractive a club to sign for/ work with as possible.
Imagine we give a loads of youth game time and they had a few bad results 4 or 5 nil thumpings. A few of them who aren't emotionally mature enough take a massive hit to their confidence and never recover from it.
We finish 11th or 12th, which restricts us financially, we struggle to get our first or even second choice signings who go to teams playing in Europe. We sack EtH obviously, only to find none of the best young managers want to manage us and we get stuck with Southgate as the only option.
17 Apr 2024 21:47:14
Option 2 or a hybrid.
Willy I think should play as varane is leaving.
Unless there is another standout who deserves a chance.
17 Apr 2024 22:02:13
Id like us to try something different…whether that be tactically or personnel wise. Doing the same thing week by week isn’t getting us anywhere.
17 Apr 2024 23:50:22
Neither is repeatedly sacking managers.
18 Apr 2024 06:30:30
If the manager isn't going to be here next year, where is the motivation for him to blood youth. He will play the best team he can, try to finish as high up the table as and possibly win the FA Cup.
Then if he does go, he can look back on his time at United and say he won 2 trophies in 2 years which puts him up there with The Doc (probably ahead as one of those was the old 2nd division) and only behind Big Ron, The Special One, Mangnall, Busby and Fergie in our most successful managers.
18 Apr 2024 07:38:02
Indeed Kurtis. As 80% that voted suggested the same by voting to give the manager more time. (219 v 54)
18 Apr 2024 09:11:56
Seeing as the manager has still said CL isn't gone (and mathematically it isn't), or at least Europa, it has to be option 2.
18 Apr 2024 10:36:11
Why would he go for option 1?
His job is on the line and he needs a strong finish to the season.
He is obviously going to go with his strongest / best 11.
We can still qualify for europe and win the FA Cup last time i heard.
18 Apr 2024 11:56:02
ETH has been in survival mode for the majority of the season. For him it’s about trying to save his job, which invariably results in bad football and the manager getting the sack. I suspect it’s locked in at this stage that he’s gone, but I wouldn’t expect any real change in team selection.
18 Apr 2024 12:58:59
Fizz, correct. It is the violent minority that makes the most noise.
18 Apr 2024 13:41:52
2nd option.
18 Apr 2024 13:50:19
Violent minority? I for one don't condone any sort of violence so I'm not in that bucket wazza.
18 Apr 2024 13:53:11
A very considerable majority think he will be replaced.
18 Apr 2024 15:05:22
Well after tonight’s results, I’d imagine 5th place no longer offers Champions League so invest heavily on FA Cup and be brave with league line ups, Wheatley and Amass for example.
18 Apr 2024 15:47:35
I really don't think he will be replaced personally.
There's no funds to pay him off, then to buy out his replacement.
There's no time, in the case of a few of the mooted replacements, to wait until after the Euros before they have their holiday, then miss out on a whole pre-season.
I don't think cost and time should mean he keeps his job, but he knows who he wants, who he wants to get rid of, and still has this master plan that he hasn't been able to implement this season for several massive reasons.
Not defending him - I think the style has been appalling, and there has been scant evidence of the process he constantly references. But being realistic.
18 Apr 2024 18:42:59
Either way he will be damned if the team doesn't perform. Personally was hoping that the regulars would have sorted themselves out and played with pride and real effort because the talent is there as they have showed in too infrequent glimpses.
If ETH thinks some of the youngsters are ready then why not put one or two more in to see how they cope. Actually playing in a cup semi final might work brilliantly for them or they could be overwhelmed by the occasion. The coaching staff are the only ones who can probably tell with any reasonable degree of accuracy who has the character and nerve to prosper.
17 Apr 2024 19:20:16
Looking forward to the weekend.
Our whole season rests on this game on Sunday. Winning keeps our season alive until the final day. Its motivating for the squad they know they will all be fighting for a starting spot in the final. Martinez or Shaw could be back by then.
Can any of us say we are more than 80% confident.
17 Apr 2024 19:59:51
Nobody can Ken. Cov are decent passing side and on the day who knows. We’re pretty awful this season’.
17 Apr 2024 22:02:57
80% Ken that’s optimistic…I’m at around 60% 😂😂.
18 Apr 2024 00:06:43
I'm confident. I think our players will rise to the occasion. That is also why I want half of them gone. They need to play in all games, not just when they choose.
Cant believe I am reading that sancho might consider coming back. What a piece of work. I don't want that stain anywhere near our club. I seriously hope the fanbase it not about to blame everything that is wrong on EtH and give everyone else a pass. We need to clean house and then move forward as one club under a new structure. No thanks to any players our on loan coming back.
18 Apr 2024 00:30:06
Obviously not talking about developmental loans. But the older players sent away on loan should not come back IMO.
18 Apr 2024 09:13:39
You can never be 100% but I'm 99% on this we'll be in the final, then humiliated in the final.
18 Apr 2024 15:42:48
I'm as confident as I can be too spenno. Better players more experience not much coming from the club this week which means there is good focus as you'd expect.
19 Apr 2024 09:31:54
At the risk of eating my words, and yes I appreciate it is the FA Cup semis, but it is also Coventry .
17 Apr 2024 11:36:09
I read about a stat showing that tLuke Shaw has missed 253 games through injury, since he has been at the club.
It wouldn't be surprising if this was actually true.
Regardless of the accuracy of this star, another lb is a must for Utd for next season.
17 Apr 2024 13:24:22
For club and country since arriving at OT, according to that markt thingy, it's 256 so far.
Taking the leg break season out (64 games), he averages 19.2 games missed per season throughout his career so far.
If you then take last season out (by far his luckiest with only 3 games missed), he averages 21 games missed per season.
While I've always been a big fan of him, I think the above context should support any suggestion of buying another LB.
17 Apr 2024 16:55:56
Ok. that's an entirely new back 4 required now.
17 Apr 2024 18:25:13
He has flattered to deceive imo.
Never fulfilled his potential due to attitude and injuries mainly I'd suggest.
Very good at his best but can't be relied upon.
I hope he makes the euros as the lb options are pretty slim for England.
Good youth coming through we got from Watford if he fulfilled is penthouse then we have a really good player in our hands coming through.
17 Apr 2024 18:54:53
Fulfills his potential#.
17 Apr 2024 20:44:33
Like Luke Shaw, unlucky with his injury but I also believe he’s been his own worst enemy with his attitude and approach to football at times. A full flowing Luke Shaw is one of the best in Europe but unfortunately it comes down to that word consistency and probably a better professional approach.
17 Apr 2024 20:54:32
When he has been fully fit he has been really good and he works v well with Rashford. Been a big loss this season.
17 Apr 2024 21:13:38
Half of the squad have missed games when they have been playing!
17 Apr 2024 21:52:19
It’s a bit misleading as he had a horrific injury in the beginning.
Hopefully this season is a one, he’s an excellent player but would love to see Theo Fernandez level LB come in and Shaw cove LB and LCB.
17 Apr 2024 10:50:50
Can I ask who are the toxic players throwing eth under the bus? Who has downed tools and creating dangerous cliques in the dressing room?
I see this spoken about regularly but I'm not sure who this bunch of players are.
I see a team made up primarily of only eth and ole players.
Outside of rash mctom and Shaw nobody else relevant goes back past ole.
So who is throwing eth under the bus this season particularly recently?
17 Apr 2024 11:45:35
I must admit unlike under Ole and Jose I don't see a group of players who are not trying or trying to get the manager sacked.
Two main points why we are not succeeding this season:
1.) We have been decimated with injuries in concentrated areas of the pitch (centre back and left back) .
2.) The manager has been too stubborn with his tactics, I appreciate the plan was to push on from a successful first season and become a more attacking, dominant team with this effective 4-1-5 system but it hasn't worked and that was obvious in September. We are too open and concede so many chances it has become farcical to watch of late.
We are still persisting with this in April, should have gone back to a more defensive set up and seen the season out and make top 4.
17 Apr 2024 11:52:16
I guess it's just a figure of speech that people have jumped on in recent times rather than meaning any specific names. Although two of those names you mention have frequently been seen walking around the pitch in recent times in periods of play that have led to goals, if that (lack of effort) is what can count as throwing the gaffa under the bus.
17 Apr 2024 14:46:51
I don't think anyone is throwing him under anything. His tactics mean we can be dangerous with the ball and without it we have massive holes through the middle and at full back due to the full back attempting to assist midfield. That and players just not up to the job.
17 Apr 2024 14:54:51
I agree spenno it's a figure if speech that gets thrown around with little or no substance.
We have chosen managers badly.
Moyes won nothing of note since and had a couple more sackings.
Lvg has hardly had a job since.
Jose fired a couple of times since and won nothing of note.
Ole not had a job since.
Blind herrera Di Maria sanchez mata darmian lukaku mhyikatarian all have won titles since they were deemed useless players.
We have had bad managers maybe a couple we got post their sell by date.
But they have not got much from any of their new clubs either before being fired again but here some are still blaming the players.
It's not all down to the players.
Alonso took a team in Germany from bottom to top in 2 years spending a fraction and in the main with the group he inherited.
Good coaches get players playing above their ability collectively as a team no matter what the circumstance.
I agree we have had our share of iffy players but all the managers have failed since the same can't be said of all the players.
It's the managers job to get the best out of his squad.
17 Apr 2024 21:19:04
Any manager worth his salt can get a tune out of any players, especially professionals playing in the EPL.
I get we have injuries but the players remaining are, on paper, better than most of the teams in the league and should therefore be perfectly able to understand reasonable instruction.
The fact we have been shown how to play by far worst teams from a player ability perspective speaks volumes.
17 Apr 2024 22:19:48
Tumble what are you smoking?
- Moyes was poor at Sociedad and Sunderland but has done a very good job at West Ham. Probably their most successful manager in 30 years.
- LvG left in his 60s and had a great stint with the Netherlands before retiring due for health.
- Jose didn’t do anything at Spurs and won a minor European cup with Roma, ironically the same cup as Moyes.
- Ole has said he’s not interested in a new role and received multiple offers.
Anyone would fail under the management structure above, the same people who hired EtH and this rogues gallery incidentally.
Losing the dressing room is a euphemism for not being liked and not being able to get the best out of the players.
Hopefully the new team can find the correct coach to lead us to better things.
17 Apr 2024 10:57:12
Never mind Brathwrate pay £100m or more and go bad get Cubarsi rhe 17yr old Barcelona centre back. He is outstanding and especially so for one so young.
17 Apr 2024 16:00:42
I like Braithwaite but not at silly money.
If the emglish and united premium makes him too expensive then that's where our recruitment team need to earn their corn.
17 Apr 2024 07:39:06
{Ed's Note - Tumbleweed! has posted a new article entitled, Player Assessment At Manchester United
16 Apr 2024 23:46:29
So, Sancho and Sabitzer off to the ECL semis.
17 Apr 2024 04:48:37
Shoulda kept Sabitzer!
17 Apr 2024 08:46:12
Agree on sabitzer. Ambrabat has been very poor.
17 Apr 2024 09:36:41
More of our useless players.
Proving they can play and be effective in a well run team.
17 Apr 2024 09:55:54
I really liked Sabitzer. I had hoped that the club would have signed him last summer.
17 Apr 2024 10:00:54
Sabitzer was good. Not sure why we didn’t stump up the £15m for him. Sancho looked like he’d found a few yards of pace too.
17 Apr 2024 10:41:01
Our players are slower amd less dynamic than any other team I care to mention.
Funny when a lot of them move they do better look fitter and more dynamic
They understand their roles better and fit into a well structured team dynamic.
It's nice for sancho and sabitzer to be back in the big time.
17 Apr 2024 12:01:33
True Ken. For his career and personal well being, Sancho needs to push as hard as he can for a permanent switch back to Dortmund.
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