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06 Dec 2017 15:14:30
I watched the Chelsea game last night.
I saw a very different side to Griezman. He works so hard for the team dropping into defencive areas to help out and his transition from defence to attack is fantastic. A real team player. He is a jose type player based on last night's game. Very tactically astute coupled with great technical ability
I know ed002 said don't hold our breath for greizman but i really hope we can get him into iour squad.

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06 Dec 2017 15:27:00
His work rate was great last night ken. Playing in a Simeone team means every player has to do there but defensively so that would make him a perfect player for Jose. I really really hope we go all out for him and he has that creative quality that we lack at times. Martial has really stepped up but he’s nowhere near the finished article. Griezmann would change our attack and he would be our Sanchez or hazard. Ed did mentions Barcelona is more likely but I hope we do anything to secure his signature.

06 Dec 2017 16:00:52
Work rate is one of the best parts of his game stands out every time I've watched him .

06 Dec 2017 17:28:17
Was at the game Ken. Griezmann is special. Work rate incredible and not sure he misplaced a pass.

But I was in awe of hazard. What a player.

06 Dec 2017 17:58:24

When Hazard became available (like Aguero) was that when there was yet again no value in the market?

Has a wonderful talent but I sense he needs to be slightly more consistent .

06 Dec 2017 18:59:32
Red man, yeah, that famous line.

Yes, I feel he could score and assist an awful lot more because he has all attributes. He needs to have a season like Ronaldo did for us before he left, before he can be considered among the top bracket.

07 Dec 2017 17:24:12
Hazard has been pretty consistent though, guys. I agree he doesn't score or assist as much as Messi and Ronaldo, but he creates a LOT of chances. He's always got 2 or 3 people marking him, and still he keeps on making the difference.
Look at the chance he gifted Willian against Atletico. That should be an assist Evert every damn time, but Willian messed up the finish. What Chelsea really have to do is get another top attack in so that defenses can't fully focus on Eden. Maybe then the stats would reflect the impact he has on games.

06 Dec 2017 14:46:08
Hi boys. So on the Liverpool page we've started a thread about a charity football match in the summer of 2018, held in the midlands.
Eds 1 and 2 will be the arm chair managers of the two teams in which we will aim to live stream the match on the sites.
There will be a cut off after the first 50 entries, at which point 30 usernames will be passed onto the eds for them to pick their teams (15 each)
It will be £35 per player, so we raise over a thousand pounds for the eds charities.
If interested, please email benjaminallen1991@hotmail. co. uk and include
Real name
1 strength
1 weakness

We are currently on 20 entries so get in touch asap.


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06 Dec 2017 14:54:52
Great idea.

06 Dec 2017 14:57:32
What a great idea and cause benny.

06 Dec 2017 14:58:25
I'd play but I'm in ireland but I'll put forward gds2 from our group the only problem is he has no weakness.
Best of luck with it boys and I hope you raise the money.
Go on our gds2 get stuck in to them.

06 Dec 2017 15:02:15
Great idea benny again I'm I Ireland but would live to travel over to play so ill put my name in the hat. Cheers

06 Dec 2017 15:48:26
Go on Ken, the Irish pirlo.
Can someone do a live feed on Facebook and I can give Ken the hairdryer at half-time.

06 Dec 2017 15:48:26
Go on Ken, the Irish pirlo.
Can someone do a live feed on Facebook and I can give Ken the hairdryer at half-time.

06 Dec 2017 17:48:17
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{Ed002's Note - you have to remove the spaces.

06 Dec 2017 19:07:10
. i'm an idiot 😂.

06 Dec 2017 22:04:33
I'm losing my hair corky been a long time since I had hair dryer treatment i'd welcome it😁😁.

07 Dec 2017 16:55:46
I've put me name down a good laugh for a great cause.

06 Dec 2017 10:27:12
Hi long time reader first time poster, how do people feel about bringing Depay back?

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06 Dec 2017 11:40:13
Willl be good to have him back . i'd choose him over Bale.

06 Dec 2017 11:45:39
Singh. you are joking ain't You?

06 Dec 2017 13:01:54
Neh i am being serious he'd be cheaper then Bale and Bale is very injury prone.

My ideal player for the left side would be ivan perisic or Asensio if we can get him.

Dint want bale for the price quoted.

06 Dec 2017 14:21:57
Bale might play less games Singh but he would play twice as many good ones as depay .
Personally i'd steer clear of both. I always wanted bale at united but the cost would be high and the risk higher due to his injury issues.

06 Dec 2017 14:33:50
Left wing names that come to mind:
Jonathan Viera
Julian Brandt
Julian Draxler

One season solution:
Zlatko Junuzovic.

06 Dec 2017 14:59:24
Agree with ken always wanted bale at united and felt it was a perfect match. But the injuries have taken its toll and we all know muscular injuries are the worst to recover from. On his day he is devastating and up there with the very best. I would prefer we spent big on griezmann, Dybala or Draxler as mbd has mentioned.

06 Dec 2017 15:30:41
I would rather try and recover from a pulled hamstring apposed to a broken leg . That's just me tho.

06 Dec 2017 21:18:37
Walrus that always depends on the severity.
100 professional footballers would take a straight broken leg over a ruptured hamstring.

06 Dec 2017 10:04:47
Fantastic from Shaw last night. He showed just how good he really is. Hopefully he gets more chances and it wasn't a case of putting him in the January shopping window.

We certainly need two quality LBs/ LWBs and Young and Shaw could be those two, as they will need to be rotated.

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06 Dec 2017 12:10:25
Shaw needs to take it one game at a time and give everything every time he pulls on a red shirt. I’ve been one of his biggest critics, and if Rose is available I’d take him.

Don’t forget he was asleep for Moscow’s goal so whilst a positive start and good match from him, let’s see what happens. Shaw has proved he can’t commit to training at an elite club. Maybe he’s grown up and realised what’s needed. I hope so, but fear it’s a false dawn.

06 Dec 2017 12:53:55
He was at fault for the goal but that is down to him being rusty. That will will come with game time. Rojo gave a penalty away not too long ago after being out for awhile.

06 Dec 2017 13:06:11
Rojo throws everything in every game. He’s great and trains well, loves the club and sits in the Utd fans at away matches showing us his commitment. Shaw has done none of this and is in his third year with us. Jose is putting him in the shop window.

05 Dec 2017 23:14:57
We were poor tonight, but was impressed with Shaw. Pogba was back at the old crap trying to beat 3 or 4 players and losing the ball, why can't he keep it simple, pass early and stop getting into corners trying to beat 3 players. I thought this was gone from his game in the last few weeks but was back again tonight. He is letting his ego effect his game.

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05 Dec 2017 23:22:18
You’d think we lost 4-0 and pogba didn’t create a wonderful goal.

05 Dec 2017 23:58:32
Redcon i agree 100% with you about pogba.

06 Dec 2017 00:12:57
Thought Pogba had another great game and that pass for the goal makes me sad that we aren’t going to go up against city with our best player on Sunday, going to be such a loss and could be a factor in our challenge ending.

06 Dec 2017 00:27:12
Gds2 you have blinkers on, pogba gave away the ball a lot,
He is lazy at getting back helping out, He has very good qualities but is far from the finished article
At the time we bought a record fee we should be getting the finished article, He should be bossing games grabbing them by the scruff of the neck and he hasn't done that against any top side yet, He has against the lesser sides lesser players, 3 goals he has, he needs to get his head down big time if he wants to be a top player.

{Ed004's Note - I thought he was poor tonight but he just put in an excellent display a few days ago vs Arsenal away and was very unfortunate with the red card. So he showed he can do it vs the big teams}

06 Dec 2017 00:54:25
Not for me ed has he shown that he can mix it in the big games,
Sometimes a simple pass is the one, like tonight trying to bend it around 3 or 4 defenders,
And I've watched him a few times this season out around the wings giving the ball away. that's not where he should be. He makes strange decisions and he is 24 now so shouldn't be still learning. Schoolboy stuff.

06 Dec 2017 03:39:25
Ive got blinkers on because I disagree with you? Funny.

06 Dec 2017 07:11:10
I didn’t think we were poor at all, we stayed at it and got our reward. Pogba has been great this year but he does have a tendency to lose the ball, often in dangerous situations.

I thought Shaw looked great, if he can get consistency he is head and shoulders above anyone else at left back.

06 Dec 2017 08:17:05
Shaw needs a run of games and a bit of luck with injuries.

06 Dec 2017 08:32:32
we need some players like pogba willing to take a chance at that risky pass. do you enjoy passing side to side. he is one of our special players. he will attempt a moment of magic to try and get something started, sometimes it works. just one moment can make a game.

06 Dec 2017 08:38:30
When LVG was in charge all the players were playing the easy ball and it got us nowhere and the play was very boring and predictable. now we have players willing to play that killer ball and they are getting hammered for not achieving it 100% of the time! Nobody in the game will make 100% of passes. I'm just happy we have a player that attempts them, and often achieves them to create goals/ chances.

06 Dec 2017 08:53:58
Unless Young gets injured, Shaw will not get a run of games.

06 Dec 2017 10:10:08
Think last night showed how important matic has been for us and how key he is for pogba. He allows pogba to get up the field and roam and yesterday with Herrera there we did not have the adequate cover. Pogba has been nothing short of sensational for us this year but he is still undisciplined at times to play B2B. This is a big problem against the big teams and if he is not going to learn to be more disciplined then we do need to invest in another midfielder. I thought it was an entertaining game and great to qualify top of the group. I think although we are not as good as some of the top top teams, we have jose and he knows how to win this trophy. I would not rule us out of contention.

06 Dec 2017 12:02:47
Pogba does lose the ball, but that is a side effect of trying to make things happen.
Making safe passes, and not trying to take players on is fine for keeping possession but it doesn't help create goalscoring chances.
There is a reason we average just over 3 goals a game with Pogba and 1.5 goals a game without him.

He is the catalyst in our side, the one who tries to make things happen. You can't have it all ways.

If you want to see creative attacking football then you need players who will try the riskier passes and try and take players on. Otherwise we are doomed to LVG football.

06 Dec 2017 12:24:53
GDS and Shaps, agree completely.

I can’t believe the stick Pogba gets. Even in the ground i hear people moaning about him. He gives the ball away trying things other won’t dare try. I want that kind of player in our side. When it comes off it’s top class. The pass for Roms goal was top class. I think he’s already one of the best in his position in the world and will only improve. One thing is for certain he’s out best player, and we’ll miss him massively on the weekend. Those that doubt his influence take a look at our results without him this season.

06 Dec 2017 12:31:35
I'm talk8ng about buying a complete midfielder, paying a record fee you should expect a complete midfielder.
I'll make it easier for you all.
I wouldn't mention in the same sentence as scholes.
Now he is 24 he should be there or there abouts by now.

06 Dec 2017 13:04:42
Scholes had played for united from young age with top midfi3lders such as Beckham Giggs Carrick and Hargreaves.

Pogba went to a juve side and has been for a year. He will be top class in the years to come and he is our only midfielder that makes thinga happen.

06 Dec 2017 14:09:24
Leahy, if you want a world class 24 year old player then Neymar set the bench mark. He cost 222m Pogba cost 89m.
So far this season Pogba has a goal or assist every 85 minutes compared to Neymar's every 71 minutes. Now Pogba is playing in midfield and in a supposedly tough league. So it should be expected that he wouldn't be involved in as many goals as a forward would. So for those figures to be so close I think it's fair to say Pogba is doing better than Neymar so far this season. Plus without checking I'm pretty confident that the stats would suggest Pogba is doing far more defensive work than Neymar thus further showing his worth to the team.

So compared to Neymar Pogba is a 89m bargain. Lol.

06 Dec 2017 14:24:30
Scholes wass a million miles from the complete player he finished as at the age of 24.
At 24 pogba is miles ahead of where scholes was at that age imo.

06 Dec 2017 14:40:51
And 10 times less pressure ken! Top post! .

06 Dec 2017 14:49:51
Plus it’s not the players fault that was his price. Times change. Like buying a house 20 Year’s ago for £30k, that same house is worth £300k now. It’s just what it is. Pogba already looks a steal at £89m.

06 Dec 2017 15:05:26
Agree stand Jose was correct when he said pogba looks like a steal. We have someone who will be the best midfielder in the world writhing 2 years. And if we are challenging for top honours I can see him being with us for years to come.

06 Dec 2017 17:09:30
Pogba miles ahead of scholes.
I've heard it all.
Zidane told reporters if you want to talk to the best midfielder in the world talk to Paul scholes.
But you lot might know more than zidane.

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06 Dec 2017 17:55:41

06 Dec 2017 22:08:59
Leahy read the post. At 24 pogba is miles ahead of were scholes was AT THAT AGE. Your getting as bad as jred just seeing what you want and twisting the words.
Scholes improved with age and imo he wasn't even a constant midfield starter at that age. Was playing higher up the pitch.

05 Dec 2017 23:00:10
Well what did everyone think of Shaw? I thought he was superb, looked sharp and fit. Unfortunately I think he was being put in the shop window.

{Ed004's Note - Hopefully he has shown enough to Mourinho tonight to get a chance to fight his way back into the team. Ideally we would go into next season with Valencia and a new right back competing and Shaw and a new left back competing. If we intend to play 3 at the back we should adopt a similar approach to Spurs and alternate our full backs}

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05 Dec 2017 23:22:48
That’s exactly what I was saying on the chat ed. Squad game these days and there is enough games in a season to rotate our full backs. Think the 3 at the back is the best formation for the players we have. Shaw was brilliant tonight and made some good surging runs. Hopefully the penny has dropped for him and he knuckles down mentally as he has all the talent in the world. Only time will tell.

{Ed004's Note - Shaw was very impressive tonight. You could tell he was rusty and I think that’s why he started to cramp near the end. However, his fitness looks like it has improved dramatically which is a good sign. He won’t feature vs City but hopefully he gets a few games over the winter period. I still think if Sandro or a top tier left back is available we should go for them}

05 Dec 2017 23:38:38
He showed the manager tonight that he is capable of being super focused hard working and showed great attitude. Asking witj all of that for his first full game in a year showed louts of quality. The manager had promised him more chances if he produces more if the same then he has every chance to fight for his place. If he plays like that consistently and proves he can then he will earn his place.

05 Dec 2017 23:30:05
the new lad victor is very good at right back ed4 but then we might have to keep smaling who is a accident waiting to happen.

06 Dec 2017 08:06:49
I think it's a little to late for Shaw.

It's a shame, before his injury under lvg he was immense.

But if you can t have the motivation to work hard and come back stronger then you don't deserve to play for a big club

Players with less ability have had worse injurys and come back with a better attitude.

It's took him till now to show glimpses of his old self all be it against an average team.

06 Dec 2017 08:30:45
It's never too late if he can produce performances like that consistently m.

06 Dec 2017 16:51:09
or maybe there is an underlying condition that we are not aware of and the Mourinho jibes were just a front to protect him? it is never too late.

05 Dec 2017 22:51:20
is jose playing shaw to prove he is fit and to get the best price can not blame him realy but shaw if the rumours are to be beleived sutch a shame he could be one of the best if realy commited.

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06 Dec 2017 08:59:21
Yes, and also so he could rest Young for the Derby. Everyone knows what Shaw is capable of, however clubs will be weary of his fitness. They'll want a player who can go straight into the team and play. Shaw proved last night that he is fit and ready to play. That being said it doesn't mean we'll end up selling, Shaw has rejected all moves up to now. We'll see. Rumours have it Poch wants Shaw if Spurs fail to get Sessegnon, don't know how true that is. But Shaw did flirt with a move the other month by saying Poch was like a father bla bla, he'd love to play under him again bla bla. So who knows. Time will tell what becomes of Luke Shaw, but I think he's a good player with a lot of potential. I think he'll do well elsewhere.

05 Dec 2017 21:45:23
There was a bit of debate on chat about their goal, for me onside blind played him in.
Any neutral man or ed have an opinion on their goal.

{Ed004's Note - He was onside but I disagree with the rule}

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05 Dec 2017 23:41:23
I don't disagree with the rule ed simply because if any attavking player produces a great piece if skill and the defender slides off the pitch you can't just say that defender doesn't exist.

05 Dec 2017 23:41:54
I think the rule needs to stay the same to stop smarter players going off the pitch to make an attacker offside while in the box, while it is annoying, it may be for the best in the long run.

06 Dec 2017 00:11:11
Not sure how anyone can disagree with the rule, based on what? Players would use it to gain an adavantage if it wasn’t the rule.

06 Dec 2017 07:16:21
Don’t be silly GDS, we were effectively penalised ergo the rule is silly. If it happened the other way round then the rule would be great, obviously.

05 Dec 2017 21:41:30
Not paranoid ote anything but I bet we get madrid or bayern. city will get basle😂.

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05 Dec 2017 21:56:06
Perfect time to play Madrid if there ever is one ken 😂. But I agree I have this feeling we will draw one of the big boys.

05 Dec 2017 22:15:11
Wouldn't be against Madrid on form.

05 Dec 2017 22:39:06
Game is not for 2 months. A lot can happen before then.

06 Dec 2017 08:08:29
Does it really matter who you get

You have to play the best teams eventually if your going to win it.

05 Dec 2017 19:10:10
Any live chat tonight eds?

{Ed033's Note - yes, at the usual url = Man Utd Chat

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05 Dec 2017 21:37:06
Thanks ed.


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