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Liverpool v Chelsea - A Liverpool Perspective

16 Apr 2019 11:47:38
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My pitch for sorting out Manchester United - Football Manager editor mode style

16 Apr 2019 09:08:14
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16 Apr 2019 09:32:13
That is an interesting approach :)

16 Apr 2019 15:29:03
Boom - thanks post and tidying it up Ed, have a good one.

{Ed033's Note - thanks for posting

16 Apr 2019 19:18:23
Nice post by United Road and agree with so much of it.

Also really interesting points about development around OT and club sponsorship and branding.

Just wish we had owners who genuinely liked Football and so would want to invest properly for the future.

16 Apr 2019 20:07:28
In a lot of ways we are well run but I really think we lack strategic vision of what we want to be in 3, 5, 10 years.

Sir Alex came with his statement of knocking Liverpool of their perch, Abu Dhabi / Dubai bought clubs to sports wash their global image and have largely succeed, Liverpool's owner want to bring back success and will invest for it, Abramovich wanted to legitimatise his image and make some mullah!

What on earth is going on at our place I don't know. But we need a strategic plan that is for sure, and I'm not sure Solkskjaer's platitudes to the past can solely be it.

Review Of The Day 16th April 2019

16 Apr 2019 07:29:01
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16 Apr 2019 04:42:39
Ridiculous that all the reports about RM and Barco trying to buy Rash for £100m. I'm not sure if Rash is really keen but if he is not he should come out to say.
I think the Spanish clubs are very afraid of us turning the 1 goal deficit into a win just like we did PSG. Using mind games to play with our players. Similar to trying to disrupt Pogba. This is the time to see what our players are made of.
I feel for Ole having to grapple with these but I would think that EW should come out to officially support the manager. It would help the players if EW do speak to the players and help in some of these motivational issues. Everything can't be solved with money although sadly money plays a part in the contract negotiations.
I hope we really show up and beat Barcelona and it would be a great achievement for the players and the club. Hope I have the energy to stay up to watch the game. GGMU.

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16 Apr 2019 06:16:48
Story came from the english press so i don't see how it is the spanish media/ clubs trying to disrupt us.

16 Apr 2019 08:45:24
Sure noted DSG. I’m sure some over that side trying to since RM ZZ came out on his admiration about Pogba as well. So there seems to be all sorts of interest in our players. I am very happy for the players tbh since big clubs are interested. However what I have a problem is the very appropriate time these came out 🤔.
It’s good that clubs are keen on our players which means we have good and potential players. Just the timing I have issue with. We’ve been through this given CR7 before. Anyway that’s just my view.

16 Apr 2019 09:30:51
It is very different to the CR7 issue. Pogba is an excellent player, but he is easily replaceable. Any half competent club should be able to replace him.

cR7 was one of the two best players of his generation, he was never going to be replaced and should probably never have been sold.

But the point is any competent club can replace players like de gea and pogba and even rashford if they were to leave. The fact that we have been so incompetent in recruiting players is why the likes of de gea and rashford have us over a barrel when it comes to contract negotiations.

Also due to the fact we decided to make a past it has been chilean our highest paid player for no apparent reason.

16 Apr 2019 12:12:44
i play football with one rashfords best mate.

believe me he isn't going anywhere.

just more nonsense from the papers.

16 Apr 2019 12:46:31
Any of our players can be easily replaced. What a joke of a comment. Building a culture and a squad you need players who will run through walls for you. Not hired guns.

Rashford is worth 10 of a Sanchez type hired gun. He is not agitating for a move, he just wants a senior pro contract - look at his game time and influence. He deserves it! Who would we bring in to replace him?

{Ed007's Note - Danny Welbeck?}

16 Apr 2019 13:24:03
He already has a senior pro contract, he wants more money which is understandable, he deserves it. But if he were to want to leave a competent club should be able to replace him.

How do you think clubs like dortmund work? Obviously they would want all their players to be like marco reus and stay for a long time but the reality is most are like ousmane dembele or pulisic who see the club as a vehicle to get moves to other clubs.

There is no reason why people wouldn't use united in the same way to get moves to other clubs.

16 Apr 2019 14:57:12
Problem with that is United are considered as one of the biggest clubs in football. The only move upwards would be Madrid, Barca, Bayern, maybe Juventus. Or if their going to PSG or China they're just chasing money. Dortmund aren't considered as a great club. Their a selling club. Even when they've had success such as in 1997 or ten years ago those sides have quickly broken up as they sell their best players because a lot of clubs are seen as a step up from Dortmund.

16 Apr 2019 17:03:29
All said and done that the media are trying to turn the players' minds, but are they serious. i mean 100m for Rashford. what's next then? 75m for Young or 50m for Valencia. 😋😋😋🤣🤣🤣.

16 Apr 2019 18:23:15
It's a serious concern that the club have allowed his contract to run down so far. He is far from the finished article, but he has the potential to be a superstar. He's the only player we have that gets the crowd up off their seat when he gets the ball. He's arguably the biggest talent our academy has produced since the class of 92, we should be looking to build our future team around him and encourage him to spend the best years of his career with us. For that reason I would class him as irreplaceable.

{Ed002's Note - This whole concept of "building a team around" a player is a little naive, it does not work like that, and certainly not with forwards. The club have not let his contract run down (and they can take up an option he has already agreed to) but rather have not reached an agreement with him just yet. There is no doubt that there is interest from Barcelona but you need to remember he is English, and typically English players are far from portable to other countries, and he is far from being the sharpest piece of mango in the fridge.}

16 Apr 2019 18:58:46
Haha I'm happy if that means he's likely to stay. I meant build around in a broader context but I get your point. Thanks for the response.

16 Apr 2019 19:11:17
Ed002 i'm not sure how you dice your mangos but the edges should never be sharp😂
I have no doubt that rashford will sign a new contract.
He has a lot of improvement to come but he has it in him and for today's standards he keeps a very low profile off the pitch and appears to have a very good attitude.
He will get better and once he has more creativity around him he will do better.

16 Apr 2019 19:31:53
Lol Spanish club afraid of Manchester United 😂😂😂. You have a very good chance of finishing outside top 4 and the kid might want to move just like most of the others!

15 Apr 2019 19:33:29
Probably an unpopular view, but I will gladly sell de Gea and bring in Romero and Dean Henderson. Focus on building a good defence. Move Jones, Rojo, smalling on, bring in Tuanzebe, some from u23 and sign a top class defender to partner Lindelof. If we have a good defence, the keeper won't be exposed as much.

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15 Apr 2019 19:57:43
I can see some sense in that.

15 Apr 2019 20:27:41
I'd keep smalling for now, him and tuanzebe backup until tuanzebe is ready to be no 1 CB. I think everyone wants to see a good group of young players brought through along with top quality signings. But this will require a lot of patience from the fans as it's a going to be quite the rebuild.

15 Apr 2019 20:57:40
Why would a club buy de gea for a fee if they can get him next summer once he is out of contract?

I would not be against giving romero a go as no1 when de gea leaves if we can't get a top quality replacement like oblak.

He hasn't let anyone down when he's played and would be able to deal with the pressure.

16 Apr 2019 16:10:51
Well 2 maybe 3 clubs maybe looking for a keeper this summer so could be tempted if the price is right. PSG will need to replace Buffon. Courtouis has flopped at Madrid. Juventus could be tempted as most of the keepers there aren't great.

Milan Skriniar

15 Apr 2019 08:42:48
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15 Apr 2019 09:00:18
Sounds like a quality player Ed.
Lots of good attributes except pace.

15 Apr 2019 12:16:06
*shakes fist* SKRINIARRRRR!

{Ed001's Note - I am beginning to worry for you Danny!!!}

16 Apr 2019 12:36:44
Big fan of steamed hams apparentley.

Review Of The Day 15th April 2019

15 Apr 2019 07:29:01
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15 Apr 2019 09:55:49
Great article as always ed1. You seem to love PSG a lot.
Also is it because I am naive and ignorant or did people see the funny side to the Milan players' antics and even the Burnley booking incidence.


{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, and yes PSG are amongst my favourites, up there with Neymar as reasons I turn the TV over! I have never liked PSG as they have a huge problem element amongst their fans. Also I dislike the idea of creating a team because Paris didn't have one in the top flight. Franchising in essence.

As for the Milan and Burnley things, people have no sense of humour, they are always looking to be offended. If it was me whose shirt had been held up I would take it as a sign of respect that what I said matters so much to them they are making a big deal out of it! And Barnes kissing Bennett made me laugh when I watched it live, still can't believe the ref booked him for it. So many times in those situation you see someone throw a head in to motion a butt but he showed laudable restraint if you ask me. If Bennett is such a muppet that he can't look at it and laugh about it, then he needs to grow up. It will be a moment he can talk about to the kids and grandkids when he will have little else in his career of real worth to mention.}

15 Apr 2019 01:25:40
I guess the players are thinking to themselves " I won't win anything here at Utd, I better move on to win trophies" TBH if that's their thinking then off you go cause 1 player does not win games nor does 2 or 3? Yes they can have a great impact and dictate the play when they are bothered to turn up. It won't be the wordt thing to get rid of the negative footballers and replace with more fluid and guile. OLE needs to do some conditioning work with the players also! Its common for players to get tired after 70 mins but not when its taken you 30 mins to get out of 1st gear imo.

Who knows if we sign some quick players who can actually beat 1 or 2 then open up pockets of space? We might just get some good out of Sanchez.

Just an opinion i feel 5 years is a long time waiting to find some players and a manager capable of steering the ship and standing up to EW and Co whilst not being a yes man.

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15 Apr 2019 06:20:00
Agree about conditioning work.
Next season, the coaching staff's need to emphazie more on the fitness of the players.

14 Apr 2019 20:47:54
Best not to dwell on yesterdays performance the most positive thing I can say is job done.

In many ways we are still suffering from an unbalanced squad where players have been recruited without an understanding of where they will fit into the team and without knowing or understanding our preferred style or system.

Without wanting to sound like a broken record if we are to enjoy any success either on the field or in the transfer market Ole must impose his identity on the team.

When he took over he quickly identified his preferred 11 and formation. For the first time in years we knew our best team and it brought success. The football was better (not perfect), players started to form relationships and partnerships and we had reason to be optimistic. Injury derailed this plan and threw it into chaos. We now have different systems every week with players being asked to perform several different roles often within the same 90 minutes. Whilst some degree of tactical flexibility is useful players perform at their best when they understand their role and know what's expected of them. They benefit from playing the same system and knowing their team mates. At the moment we've reverted back into a bunch of individuals playing their own game rather than a cohesive team where everyone understands their job.

I think it's fair to say that none of us could reliably name the team for Tuesday let alone guess the tactics or formation. Will it be 3 at the back, 442, 442 (diamond), 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3 who knows?!

When it comes to the summer recruitment how do we know which players to target if we don't even know what style or formation we want to play?

I would have liked Ole to stick to the 4-3-3 which brought him his early success. To continue to demand his players work hard and press the ball. Move the ball quickly and play without fear. If he'd have stuck to his principles we'd have a better understanding of what was required in the summer. His tinkering and square pens in round holes approach has contributed to a lack of form, disjointed, disorganised and uninspiring recent performances.

I agree we need a CB, RB and probably another CM but in my opinion the priority position must be RW. We just don't have anybody that can play that position effectively on a consistent basis. Lingard has done ok on occasions but he often drifts inside which leaves us without width. I accept a better full back might go some way to alleviating this problem but Lingard constantly drifting inside often leaves us vulnerable defensively as well.

Surely we want our FB to build up a relationship with our wide men, providing overlapping runs and freeing up space inside. Lingard is often so far detached that the full back is totally isolated often left without a passing option. We must be able to attack down both sides of the pitch and if we had someone on the right this would free up space for Martial and Pogba coming through the centre.

I think Ole has been guilty of trying to be a little bit too clever and manipulating his tactics and formation too often. He has fallen into the trap of setting up his team according to the opposition rather than building on his early success and principles.

For the record I think Ole deserved the job but I want to know what type of football we can expect next season. I went to see us work harder, press the ball higher and play on the front foot. I want to see us impose our own style on the opposition and watch a team rather than a collection of individuals. I think Ole has fallen into the trap like his predecessors of chasing results rather than performances. He's now walking a dangerous line believing that the ends justify the means. Yesterday wasn't good enough despite the result. Look after the performances and the results will look after themselves over the course of a season.

Come on Ole give us what we want. We need to see progress and an identity returning to our play. Prioritise the performances and the results will look after themselves. Don't lose your way like those before you.

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14 Apr 2019 20:57:25
Spot on DLIB.

14 Apr 2019 21:06:23
To be fair to ole and the players dlib since the Liverpool game there was lots of injuries. he has not been able to call on his preferred 11 once since then.
So what do you get?
Some positives in the emergence of dalot fred and mctom in particular.
The negatives are the chopping and changing leads to disjointed performances and players playing rash and jessie when not 100% fit.

14 Apr 2019 21:09:19
Pressed send early.
The other negative is we have to rely on depth of squad and we got exposed in midfield and wide areas in particular.

14 Apr 2019 23:20:05
Good post dlib and I couldn't agree more about your point about attacking from both sides . Martial cops lots of stick, to be honest even though I still like him he deserves a lot of his stick, while the right sided attackers get a bit of a pass as it's more just accepted we are pants down the right . I hope Sanchez duznt get better in people's eyes by not playing and simply on the fact martial has had a poor game, Sanchez has been truly awful .
On pogba another who frustrates but of the midfield options we have it's a pretty bland bunch attacking wise without him .
We have it in us to be able to beat pretty much anyone in a one off game, the flip side is we also look well capable of losing to teams we would hope not to.

15 Apr 2019 06:13:03
Good post DLIB.
Injuries are starting to take a toll on the squad.
We have not fielded a same starting 11 for the past 10 games.

Formula 1: China Talking Points

14 Apr 2019 16:10:50
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14 Apr 2019 18:50:25
Man! Whoever is responsible for the strat calls on that Ferrari team really needs to think about what they decide. They were all over the place.

Ed: Don't know much about the technical side of things, but just explain one thing, Mercedes weren't the quickest on the straights, but were very very strong around the corners and it was vice versa for Ferrari. Is this part of the setup that they choose for a circuit or is it purely based on what the car is capable of. Coz, if it is the latter, then basically, any and every circuit that has fast corners are going to be Ferrari's downfall. Is there no way that they can change that?

{Ed001's Note - it is about the car, Mercs have more downforce. Red Bull have traditionally won titles through being much better on the corners. Only thing Ferrari can do is develop their aero to bring them level. Fast corners are not so much of an issue as slow corners, as you gain more time in them by being faster than you do in the faster ones.}

15 Apr 2019 08:45:54
I don't know if it is still true, but did teams earn tokens that they could use for development? I'm not too sure where I read that, was probably years ago.

Yeah, by corners I meant the ones taking the toll on the tyres. Just a quick question again, does better downforce lead to lesser tyre wear?

{Ed001's Note - it wasn't earning tokens, they started the season with an amount of tokens they could use for development. As recently as last season (if I remember right) that was still in play. Basically if they wanted to upgrade the engine, they had to use a token to bring a new version in.

More downforce makes a significant improvement to tyre wear because sliding is the main reason tyres wear out. When you have more downforce, you slide less. However driving style is more of a key, as a driver who runs on the ragged edge throwing the back end out looks more exciting, but he is sliding the car and so wears the tyres out. Or having a heavier foot and accelerating too hard will spin the wheels creating more tyre wear. So it is not the only factor but yes it should lead to less tyre wear.}


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