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17 Mar 2024 21:06:25
Gonna get my son to name his first child Antony ?.

17 Mar 2024 22:00:28
Keep that child away from revolving doors.

18 Mar 2024 06:24:15
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17 Mar 2024 21:04:57
One of the best days of my life absolute f@#&*ng limbs everywhere ????.

17 Mar 2024 18:42:38
Happy Saint Patrick's day to all.
Perfect weekend.
Villa lose spurs lose united win.
Good draw for the semi final.
Won't mention the game as this is not for match posts.
On another note I wonder will Amad be checking social media tonight. ?
Have a great day?.

17 Mar 2024 19:11:59
Absolute scenes!

17 Mar 2024 19:16:06
Won’t mention the game, too difficult to mention the managers substitutions and tactical changes Ken? ?.

17 Mar 2024 19:17:05
Nice1 Mr Weed. ?
By the way, I thought ETH managed the game well today and his substitutions were spot on re timing and personnel. Great game, proper cup tie, the best draw we could hope for. Happy St Patrick’s day. ?.

17 Mar 2024 19:33:58
All the Leeds and Liverpool fans in my WhatsApp went silent…. happy days ??? GGMU!

17 Mar 2024 19:39:37
Wazza if you were not such a dope you'll find I posted about the match on the match posts well before you mouthed off on exactly what you said.

17 Mar 2024 19:51:03
Haha wazza. Ken will definitely not do that. But Erik nailed it today.

17 Mar 2024 19:58:24
Law of averages says ETH must get something right one in a while!

17 Mar 2024 20:30:26
Sorry angel got in about an hour before you.

17 Mar 2024 20:42:30
Don’t think Villa lost?

17 Mar 2024 21:09:08
Hey weed,
On the live chat, I got on to you over a Maguire comment. You are well entitled to say if that annoys you and we all have our bug bearers. I didn't need to call on you over it. Sorry man, Happy St Patrick's day.

17 Mar 2024 21:25:03
Yep I saw it sweet heart, just a little bit of banter. Hope your mood is lifted after that win so you can take a break from being your glum and miserable self. Have a great week.

17 Mar 2024 21:51:15
No worries banjoe at all. You were right. Sackable was harsh but sissies suspendable for sure.
I'd like to see coaches condemn it and there be retrospective consequences for it.
I just can't stand it from our players particularly.

17 Mar 2024 22:00:26
You won't meet a more optimistic and positive supporter than me with regards to our short and medium term future wazza.
I am full of hope and optimism I've no doubt at all that in a couple of years time we will be in a lot better shape going into the following 5 years. I think the future looks bright. It's a steep hill but I think this summer will be very interesting.
Before that we have 12 games to win.
If we win 8 league games which is a tall order we have top hope villa and or spurs lose 4 or 5 of their last 10.
Not beyond the realms of possibility.
I foresee a crazy media spotlight on the club this summer i'm glad the euros are on to take some of the heat off but I am looking forward to 31st Aug more than usual already.

17 Mar 2024 22:25:18
Nice Ken.

We have a tough run now. Of our next 5 PL games, 3 are away, and our 2 home games are Liverpool and Newcastle.

Fortunately, Villa and Spurs both have to play City, Liverpool and Arsenal in their last 10.

We may also rely on Spurs being Spursy.

18 Mar 2024 01:26:32
No gds 2 I didn't wait for the var. 5 min delay trying to find a handball at the end. I thought West ham had nicked it.

15 Mar 2024 07:34:21
Looks like Liverpool are in the mood. I don't fancy us having a hope on Sunday.

15 Mar 2024 09:34:43
I might watch from behind the sofa ?.

15 Mar 2024 13:13:11
I might start watching with the bravado of a Tory politician with a fascist idea, only to then find myself white-knuckling my kneecaps like a Tory politician being driven through Moss Side.

You never know, I might experience a sudden call to clear out the rubble chute instead.

15 Mar 2024 16:37:26
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15 Mar 2024 18:37:06
I’ve got a good feeling that we will win at weekend- even though it’s against form
?#BELIEVE.

16 Mar 2024 08:04:38
Jacko, against form? It's against any form of logic too ???
That said I admire your optimism and hope you're right. It is a cup tie after all.
#HOPEANDPRAY?.

16 Mar 2024 10:37:22
I have a ticket but sadly cannot attend. Free to anyone that wants it. It’s not a brilliant seat but at least you are at the game. Shout out and we can organise getting the QR to whoever wants it.

16 Mar 2024 11:38:53
We have to believe and support. can't go into this scared of them.

I hope we have AWB back and he is fit and ready. We will have a much better chance if he can lock down RB defensively and Dalot can have a MOM performance against Salah. Any other option looks a bit scary.

Every player has to play with full conviction and play better than the player opposite them. With a raucous crowd at OT we will always have a strong chance of winning in any cup game. In some ways it is better that it is Liverpool than someone like Newcastle or villa, the crowd will be electric for it.

17 Mar 2024 18:27:10
As Fergie said "football bloody hell"

17 Mar 2024 18:35:32
You see what a bit of belief can do! Yaaaaaaaay.

17 Mar 2024 19:18:29
Gobsmacked. Love it ?.

17 Mar 2024 20:00:50
What a game to miss KEEFY!

17 Mar 2024 20:01:53
I was there. One of the best games I have been to in over 57 years! What an atmosphere!

17 Mar 2024 21:32:21
DODGY. I made it. Mum had a good day and sent me to watch the game. Was sat to the right of the Liverpool fans. What an incredible atmosphere. One of best in 57 plus years!

18 Mar 2024 00:17:33
Ahhh, made up you could make it mate. I was watching on tv thinking you'd give this ticket up! What a game. Very entertaining. don't really want to say anything negative about any of the players or coaches. That was a proper battling win against a very strong rival. One for the ages ?.

14 Mar 2024 22:43:27
How ETH took Anthony and not Kudus is beyond me.

15 Mar 2024 03:11:40
Anthony had many assists and goals at Ajax. He is struggling to adjust, but may in time.

15 Mar 2024 07:59:43
Oh Dodge. I needed an early chuckle. Good on ya!

15 Mar 2024 08:34:25
Salford7,

I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday. Half the price, but 3 times the player.

15 Mar 2024 12:58:43
A manager has a limited knowledge of players and who may or may not be available. It is not the manager's responsibility to do the scouting, research, negotiations, etc. Nor is it the manager's responsibility for authorizing the expenditure of funds. Man Utd's back room has scarcely come up with a top quality purchase in more than a decade. The problems originate there.

I agree that it looks highly likely ETH has made an error in his assessment of Antony's potential, but you can't blame him for not snagging Kudus. or any other player who may or may not have been available, and may or may not have been interested in coming to Man Utd.

15 Mar 2024 13:49:31
Antony was a massive error by ETH. I think it’s obvious that he didn’t grasp the quality needed to perform against EPL defences in comparison to the Dutch league where Antony’s quick first step was usually enough to get past a player.

However, to bang the drum again, this is a transfer that a competent club structure would have blocked. Spending close to £100m on an untested player solely on the recommendation of a manager with zero EPL experience is result of an amateur or non-existent recruitment system. As soon as Ajax raised the price above £50m, the club should have pulled the plug.

15 Mar 2024 16:37:53
Many goals and assists you say? The same antony who never got over 10 goals in the league at ajax in a season?

Does the Manchester United Squad Size Matter?

14 Mar 2024 07:39:07
{Ed's Note - Shappy has posted a new article entitled, Does the Manchester United Squad Size Matter?

14 Mar 2024 16:10:02
I thought size always matters!

14 Mar 2024 02:56:35
So Getafe can't afford the €50m for Greenwood apparently, time to work them.

We could do with 2 CBs, Getafe have a Uruguayan fella called Gaston Alvarez who plays left CB and LB.

Maybe we could take a cash and player deal for Greenwood, get rid of an unwanted asset and bring in a versatile defender at good value who provides better strength to the required depth of a department that's been riddled with injury crises all season.
Maybe then spend a little on a starter for the right CB position.

Either way, whichever side, one required CB will need to be a bit of a punt or a free like Lloyd Kelly or Tosin.

14 Mar 2024 07:44:35
Ideally, I'd rather we kept him.
There's so much noise to get this or that striker, but mason is perfect for that role.
He has already shown higher potential and match winning ability over a rash and martial.
A good manager and a good system and this guy would score 20+ every year.

He is worth 80m imo. Wiill bite us back, when he moves onto a bigger club breaking records.

14 Mar 2024 09:30:31
There’s no way he comes back, ineos don’t want the massive pr nightmare that comes with it. Whether you agree or not, whether u think he should or shouldn’t come back, that’s the reality!

14 Mar 2024 09:54:54
Selling him for 40 million and signing a replacement for 60-80 million who's half as good would be typical us.

14 Mar 2024 10:36:18
Not a chance he stays. Its not worth it. Thankfully.

14 Mar 2024 10:59:14
If Barcelona are interested Like we are led to believe maybe we could look at a swap deal for Ronald Araujo or Jules Kounde who are both quality defenders.

14 Mar 2024 11:21:52
I'd be very much in the stay camp but I don't think it will happen and selling him for a fee close to 40m will be difficult in the extreme.
Clubs know we want to sell and clubs also know they will take a lot of great if they sign him.
A fantastic prospect but sadly I think he will be forced to move.
All we can do it try to get the best deal possible for him.
I suspect that won't exceed 25m with sell in clauses max, and someone is getting a great deal.
We might have a new coach in the summer and a new football management t team in place. I'd imagine all will want to start without being on the backfoot with negative pr.
I hope greenwoos does really well wherever he goes.

14 Mar 2024 11:29:04
Ork ed002 might know if we hold any interest in the players you mention I've not seen their names
Linked with us at all.

{Ed002's Note - Manchester United has no interest in Tosin Adarabioyo or Lloyd Kelly.}

14 Mar 2024 11:54:40
I wonder how often these exhanges seem to come off. Although good in principle I can't think of the last big-time swap that we did. In January the suggestion was Malen for Sancho.
Anyway looks like we're going to p*ss up the summer budget on the overpriced Branthwaite :D.

14 Mar 2024 12:07:41
Thanks Ed I figured as much.

{Ed002's Note - The club has clear targets.}

14 Mar 2024 12:14:10
Backpass

If it weren't for the damage his name would bring to the club, of course he'd be worth more.

Personally, I see it this way.
Trigger his extension to protect his already much-reduced value.
Get his name flashing in the shop window and be prepared to embark upon a series of more complex negotiations that might include a lesser-value player in return.

If it were me, I'd also push PSG on their interest in Rashford. While they will also be looking at Leao and Kvaradonna, they might actually view Rashford as the cheaper purchase option. If there's a chance to get £80m for him, I'd bite their hand off.

If we could get something around £40m for Greenwood (an unwanted asset) and around £80m for Rashford (should be peaking now and might start suffering with niggles soon), I'd consider that a good start for the summer.

What we should get for Greenwood based on talent and potential is subjective and ultimately immaterial. His baggage is difficult to deal with here, but it's far more easily accepted in Spain.
Getafe, like Atleti and Barca, know that United are prepared to shift him on for less than his worth, so they will all look to take the p***.

Yes, this might bite us back, but it is what it is.
However, I don't buy the idea that he would bag 20+ goals every season under the right manager.
He's scored 35 total senior gls for United from 129 apps. In 2019/ 20 and 2020/ 21 he made 49 and 52 apps respectively - bagging 17 and 12 gls respectively. All this in the Ole system that suited his style perfectly.

Again, it is what it is.
Anyway, what about this Alvarez fella?

{Ed002's Note - Deliberately extending to sell is not allowed.}

14 Mar 2024 12:19:00
Personally will be glad when the whole situation is done no matter which side of the fence you sit on with Greenwood.
No one doubts his ability and what he could offer, but this should not be the consideration and yes he will likely go on to be a good player wherever he ends up.
If we can get anywhere north of £35/ 40m then this will be 100% for FFP and immediately can be used towards a replacement.
We can then put it all in the past and move forward.
I feel similar about Sancho/ Van De Beek/ Maguire/ McTominy and many more (very different reasons obviously), maximise the value but get a fee in and move on.

14 Mar 2024 13:38:02
Cheers Ed002

Well then that makes it even more of an absolute must to get him gone sensibly this summer.

14 Mar 2024 14:07:18
The hilarity of Marcus Rashford being a genuine replacement for Kyllian Mbappe even in a game of FIFA chuckles me.

14 Mar 2024 17:02:00
Rashford might do very well at PSG. On by far the best team in a less competitive league, he’d, theoretically, get more chances and score more goals. He’s a confidence player and that would suit him.

14 Mar 2024 21:43:56
I think he will excel if he leaves Danny.

14 Mar 2024 22:00:35
Rashford is a very good player. Personally I think something is up with him in his personal life this season.

He's always had the talent, and he has always been a hardworking, dedicated player. Someone who ate right, trained hard, would often be the first in and the last two leave training. Someone who never lacked for effort on the pitch.

That was true last season. This season however something is different, he seems unfocused, unmotivated and lacking effort and work rate. He looks like mentally he's playing in 2nd gear.

For me that points towards something happening in his life away from football that is distracting him or effecting his mood/ attitude. His demeanor seems more sullen, less jovial than it has been previously.

We are all very quick to jump on players when their performance level drops, when what we should really be doing is asking why it has.

Maybe he needs a move away, a clean break and a fresh start. I wouldn't be surprised to see him excel somewhere else. If that is what he wants then its best the club look to accommodate that. I've always said the moment a player doesn't want to be here then they need to be shown the door. However, in his recent interview it was clear that he loves the club. So maybe the better course of action is to support him, find out what has changed and help him through it. Help him get back to the Marcus who plays with a smile on his face, who works hard and always gives 100% effort. If we can get him back to that headspace then we will have a 20 goal a season player, not just any player either, but a former academy player who genuinely loves the club and is a fan like us at heart.

14 Mar 2024 22:47:12
If there is something in Rashford life which is bothering him it would explain a lot. Also would suggest that he is possibly not getting the mental help he needs at Utd.

15 Mar 2024 06:10:31
Well, if Getafe can’t afford him, Getafe can’t have him. That’s how buying things works.

Agreed Danny Rashford will excel at PSG. It seems like the perfect fit. Players who think they are better than they are seem to end up there.

15 Mar 2024 07:50:44
Whatever Rashfords problems are the crux of the matter is that he is a burden to the team. Doesn't even put enough in to warrant the title of passenger! Because of this, he shouldn't be picked to play. He should be removed from the pressure to get his issue sorted. That would benefit both the player and the team.

15 Mar 2024 09:57:25
Your being very repetitve fizz. Your constantly going on about rashford. Your agenda is clear. ? you just try and say it a different way every day.

16 Mar 2024 12:19:44
Fizz, there are two problems with that train of thought. Firstly from the teams perspective we actually don't have anyone who offers more than what Rashford is offering right now, let alone at his best.

Dropping Rashford means one or even both of Antony and Amad have to start depending on Hojlund's availability.

Even as poor as Rashford has been he has 7 goals and 2 assists for us this season. Antony has 1 goal and 0 assists. Amad hasn't shown much when he has come on to suggest he'd do much better.

The second issue is that depending on what the issue is and the person involved it might not be best for that person to stop their work. It might be that their work gives them s break from whatever it is they are dealing with.

I'm going through a divorce currently, and when we first split up the idea of not being able to go into work and do my job would fill me with dread. I wanted and needed those 8 hours escape each day to distract me and allow me to have some time away from it all. That's me though, others might need that time. Also it probably depends on what it is you are dealing with, and what options you have to deal with it.

The reality is Rashford is not the major problem is this team, our problems won't be magically solved by simply dropping him. While it might be frustrating watching him right now, it might not be in the clubs or the players best interests to drop him.

13 Mar 2024 13:19:05
Ken, international football is a different beast. I'm not saying the pressure is less particularly, but it's not as constant. You don't live with it day in and day out like they do at United.

Maybe they play a better for their countries because they get a break from the goldfish bowl that is Old Trafford. Or maybe international football is a lower standard and therefore more forgiving of mistakes.

The problem is we have very few leaders, Varane, Martinez and Casemiro seem the only obvious choices. Yet they have all played limited minutes and cannot be relied upon to be fit from game to game.

I think we have a lot of fair weather players. Guys who can do it in the sunshine can play well when playing is easy. But when the weather turns, and it becomes hard graft, they lack the fight for it.

The problem is the media love a crisis and Manchester United sells papers and garners clicks. So regardless, we are always on the brink of a crisis. Look at United this calendar year, 6 wins on the bounce, two losses later and it's a crisis. Liverpool have dropped points back to back, City have also, as have Arsenal.

Though it's never considered a crisis at these clubs when it happens.

Being a Manchester United player is 30% talent and 70% mentality.

You need to be a fighter, you need to revel in challenges, you need to take criticism and use it as fuel and not wear it as a millstone around your neck. You need to be brave.

Unfortunately, we don't have a lot of players like that at the club right now. The few we do are struggling to stay fit and play.

Without them on the pitch, we lack leaders. There is no one to turn to and follow when things get tough.

Beyond signing new players with the right quality and talent this summer, we need to make sure we sign leaders. Fighters, warriors. Guys who see a challenge smile and roll their sleeves up and get stuck in.

I do think we have a few potential leaders at the club. Martinez is the obvious one. Mount has been a leader at Chelsea and captained them on occasions. Maybe he's someone who could develop into a leader at the club once he can get fit and playing. Dalot, I think, is a surprise candidate, he's shown real quality this season and fight. He doesn't let his head drop and is always geeing up his teammates and showing some passion and fight.

Onana has also shown great resilience and mental fortitude to fight back from a shaky start and is showing some great form since the turn of the year. He seems to have the right mental strength required. Mainoo has also shown real maturity and a great attitude. Although young, he could well grow into a leader at the club.

The problem is we need more leaders, at CB, at CM and particularly in attack. Where we have far too many players who go hiding when things get tough.

13 Mar 2024 16:34:28
Shappy

Do you not think mount is a player that epitomises the glazer ownership? He could have stayed at chelsea if he was a leader and wanted to head the challenge of dragging them back to the top. Instead he deemed himself worth a vast amount of wages that he's never proven worthy of! For all those that say oh well klopp wanted him yes at the 100k a week he's probably worth. he's another yardstick for new signings to compare wages to. he's everything that i dislike about our squad it isn't his fault granted but he's come for money not the project at hand.

13 Mar 2024 16:40:03
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with player’s looking to get the highest wage they can. Modern football clubs are set up to make money, players are entitled to look after their own economic interests. With Mount, he could have stayed at Chelsea, or moved for higher wages. Chelsea, during the summer at least, looked a club in a bigger flux than United.

Liverpool don’t enter the equation because they wouldn’t meet Chelsea’s asking price.

13 Mar 2024 16:57:16
W16wes, maybe but I think you're being a bit harsh. Employees move around for many different reasons.

Let's give him a chance to show what he can do before rushing to judgement.

13 Mar 2024 17:44:02
Do we not all work for money and want to maximise our earnings?
I have always liked mount as a player. I was looking forward to him coming into the team and really challenging Bruno for a spot in the side. But eth wanted to play him deeper where he never really played for Chelsea. We never got to see a sustained run of that before he got injured but neither mount nor the team were benefiting from that change of position before he got injured albeit only a few games.
I'd really like to see him fit next season and look to seeing how coach whomever that is getting him playing to his strengths and to the level he was a couple of years ago.

13 Mar 2024 19:03:15
W16wes, I think the issue Mount had at Chelsea was the club were not prepared to offer him wages in line with what they were paying their biggest signings.

He felt undervalued and take for granted because he was an academy player and not a big money signing.

This is despite him being back to back player of the year for them and their best player.

I think it's only fair to expect pay at least equal pay to those you are outperforming on a weekly basis.

13 Mar 2024 19:05:13
Just to clarify, Mason Mount ranked 1st in the following areas since his Chelsea Debut when we signed him:

Appearances, Starts, Minutes Played, Goals, Assists and Chances Created.

Appreciate he had a bad last season and has been injured this season, but there is certainly a proven PL player in there.

13 Mar 2024 19:19:40
I like Mount, touted him earlier in the season as a potential Captain. Have to clear Bruno out of the way when he is fit.

13 Mar 2024 19:27:57
For sure there is kurtis. I never envisaged him as a box to box player though did you?
The plan was to use him with casimero and Bruno as per eth at the beginning of the season. Obviously eth sees something different. It left us wide open but had no time to gel so it's hard to know.
I can never understand why we paid 60m for a player that as pointed out above was excelling in a position and then ask him to play a completely different position. Why not pay 60m for a player that plays the position you want filled?
Just seems a bit of an odd way to go about things.

13 Mar 2024 21:18:23
Here he goes again ….

13 Mar 2024 22:42:26
I agree TW. I don't think is a box to box midfielder. He is too creative and should be playing in the 10 or 8 role. The problem is we are too vulnerable at the back so we are restricted to having 2 defensive midfielders.

Personally I would move Bruno on in the Summer, and if Mount can stay fit, have him play in his role.

13 Mar 2024 23:07:49
Totally agree Kurtis. I thought that may happen last summer but it was a bit of wishful thinking on my behalf. He has to stay fit 18 months now with one injury after another. Hard to give him a key role until he gets an injury free season behind him.
We have incurred a huge amount of non impact injuries this season mostly muscle related. Hope our luck change next season. Coming off the euros players will be needing good rest at times.

13 Mar 2024 23:52:06
He is better than McTominay in the position he’s been playing in a lot of games this season, so if you replace Scott with Mount I think we would be a better team.

14 Mar 2024 10:45:55
I'm excited to see Mount and mainoo together. For more challenging games i.e arsenal, City, Liverpool, i'd like to see a 3 of mount case and mainoo with Bruno on the right as I believe we would need more bodies in there.

But overall, just want to see Mount get a decent run of games. I really like him.

14 Mar 2024 11:32:10
I agree on mount angel but I would not be playing garnacho on the left to accommodate Bruno on the right.
Bruno on the bench is a better starting point than on the right imo.
But eth will know what he wants for the last 13 games I'm sure.

13 Mar 2024 10:17:31
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Shappy has written an article entitled, Does The Manchester United Squad Size Matter?

13 Mar 2024 11:51:09
It’s absolutely a problem. Every three years we have a new manager coming in, deeming some of the players surplus and wanting to bring in their own players. However, because the club vastly overpaid for the players now deemed surplus and they’re on massive wages, the club struggles to sell them. That leaves the club with a lot of players that know they’re not wanted in the squad. Hardly conducive to a good atmosphere and easy to see how different cliques have formed. Added to that no clear leader in the dressing room, plus the amount of injuries, and boom you have this mishmash of players out in the pitch.

But it’s hard to see a way out of it. FFP constraints mean the club needs to sell to buy. Yet, they value players way above their market price and, as we have seen with Martial, players are reluctant to move if it means a massive reduction in salary. It hammers home precisely why a club needs directors that shape the long term direction of the club, rather than relying on managers who could be sacked if results turn.

13 Mar 2024 15:27:04
I find the mentality issue odd. What kind of business people invest millions of pounds in an 'asset' without carrying out the necessary due diligence?

The Glazers are obviously not idiots so why would they approve of so much of their (sorry Redman) money being spent without the most basic of checks?

Like you say Shappy a massive part of whether a player is any good is their mentality. It seems obvious to even those of us who are inexperienced in business that you thoroughly investigate the mentality of a player before buying them.

To keep repeating the same mistake over and over and over again to the tune of a billion pounds seems beyond the realms of possibility.

13 Mar 2024 16:05:57
Shappy, what I am not sure of is who the 36 players you are referring to are, if it is as listed on our official website, then 8 are on loan not 5. Out of the remaining 27, 3 are Kambwala (promoted to 1st team in Dec 2023 as a necessity), Forson and Shoretire (dont remember him playing any minutes this season) . The reason i bring up the these three is who in City's 24 man squad can equate to these three academy promoted lads? Without them we will be at par with city's 24. One less than Arsenal's 25.

13 Mar 2024 19:10:02
The Glazers do/ did not run the club on a day to basis. They rely/ relied on the executives hired to do so. They don't know anything about football, and unfortunately the people they hired to run the club haven't known much either. Woodward, in particular, was a disaster from a football point of view. He even echoed the idea that winning the title wasn't important. After a decade of utter incompetence they've finally given the responsibility for gathering a competent team to run the club over to SJR. Let's hope he can make a difference.

13 Mar 2024 21:59:02
mbd,

Bayindir, Heaton, Onana, Lindelof, Maguire, Martinez, Malacia, Varane, Dalot, Shaw, AWB, Williams, Evans, Alvaro Fernandez, Kambwala, Amrabat, Mount, Bruno, Eriksen, Amad, Casemiro, Pellistri, Donny, Mainoo, McTominay, Gore, Hannibal, Forson, Martial, Rashford, Hojlund, Garnacho, Antony, Sancho, Shoretire, Greenwood.

While 8 are now on loan, of those 8 only Fernandez, Williams and Greenwood were on loan before January. Giving us a 33 man squad for the first half of the season.

City have a first team squad of 27 players in total (including young academy players Rico Lewis, Josh Wilson-Esbrand, Oscar Bobb, James McAtee and Perrone) . Three of which are out on loan along with Cancelo and Phillips meaning they have a first team squad of 22 players right now. Of which include Rico Lewis and Oscar Bobb. As well as the young Serio Gomez. By the time you take out those three who play very limited minutes, as well as Carson and Ortega as the back up keepers, then you are left with a core squad of 17 players who play regularly.

They have 12 players in their squad with more than 1000 league minutes this season, meaning 10 players aren't getting regular minutes.

United until January had 33 players in our squad with only 13 players with more than 1000 league minutes. Meaning 20 players have not been getting regular minutes.

You can't create a tight knit group when you have approaching 40 players.

Until January our squad was 50% bigger than Man City's (33 to 22).

The difference is the vast majority of Man City's second 11 would get into our first 11. Whereas we might be lucky to get 4 players from our entire 36 man squad that would have a chance of getting into City's second 11.

We need a core of around 18 top quality outfield players who can all perform at a high level and where the drop off in team performance is minimal regardless of which of the 18 are playing. That leaves space for 3 keepers and the cream of the academy to be pushing to fill out the last few spaces in the squad.

12 Mar 2024 22:37:43
Argentina can f right off. calling up Martinez when he's not even back from injury yet. Total joke and will no doubt lead to him missing the rest of the season for us??‍♂️.

13 Mar 2024 07:47:31
Due to be fit 30th March, will continue rehab and may have some part in a game on 28th. With a bit of luck should be available to us first game after break. I can see the logic and given some of the comments about our medical department recently, may not be a bad thing.

13 Mar 2024 10:38:28
Hope your right red man as it would be a massive disappointment to lose him again.

13 Mar 2024 10:52:31
I'd was agreed with the club and its seen as a useful next stage of his recovery.
The sky is not falling in.

13 Mar 2024 11:05:17
Tim,

He will only go and play if he’s fit, they must have been informed that he could be back before then. A game over there to get some rustiness out might do him some good before we just throw him back in.

13 Mar 2024 11:48:12
Quite often for unfit players to hang around for morale and to keep with the group. Maybe he sings a good half time song too.

13 Mar 2024 12:26:31
Never said the sky was falling in…just with the amount of injuries he’s had over the last year he really needs a sensitive approach and to be eased back in. Don’t want him turning into another Phil jones ??.

13 Mar 2024 12:37:27
Surely this is a positive as it indicates he’s not far from a return, and what better for match fitness than international football?

14 Mar 2024 06:41:08
Did I just read a comment by mr negative himself telling a poster that “ the sky is not falling in “
Fantastic stuff, the irony ???.

 


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