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17 Mar 2018 23:06:27
Koppite waving white hanky
Just curious why you think Jose is adopting this tactic of everyone is to blame except himself, De Gea and Matic?
It’s either his way of challenging the club to spend £300M + in the summer or he wants to goad them into sacking him so he can pick up Millions and head to PSG for some more €’s
He is supposed to be the master psychologist, very odd challenging your own players and supporters like this.

{Ed007's Note - That white hanky better not be your wankrag pal, we're not having that kind of thing in here! Not when Ed004's not about.}

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17 Mar 2018 23:20:59
Ed I can’t even feel it after coming in from the coldest game in memory. I reckon your game will have been even colder at the later kick off time.
Watch Mourinho’s interview on the BBC, one word. baffling.

{Ed007's Note - My game's not on until tomorrow mate. The sun's splitting the trees and it's 25 degrees up here in sunny Hamilton - I've been running about in a banana-hammock and muscle top cooking BBQ for 2/3 weeks now.}

17 Mar 2018 23:35:22
Ha, well the weather down here is definitely t-shirt weather and shorts for you then Ed
Who are the might Hamilton Accies playing?

{Ed007's Note - The wee mini Hoops are holding their own and it looks like they'll survive in the top league for another year, which is all they aim for so that's seen as a success. The big Hoops are on course for another Treble and St Brendan of The Rodgers is forging ahead with our plans for world domination - so it's all good in the 'hood up here, what about you down in the land of The Boswells?}

17 Mar 2018 23:37:18
Becuase they deserve it. Some players need to wake up and show desire, determination and will power to help the club move forward.

He is right in saying a Manchester United player needs to have that passion about how they play when they get on that pitch.

These giys are paid loads of money so if they can't perform the way the manager is asking them to then i am sorry they don't deserve to be playing in the team. They are not playing for a charity or doing anyone any favours by playing for United.

They get rewarded for what they do so rightly so should be criticised. There is ni place for sentiments when you go out to play infront of 70000 plus people who expect the very least which is show the will to try, desire and if they end up losing atleast they could look in the mirror and said well i atleast tried.

Right now more then half the team looks like they don't give a toss or just don't try hard enough.

They are not exactly asked to walk on fire or go to war. They are playing football something which they love and should be pruveledged as there are many people out there that would love to be in their shoes and will do 10x better then them.

17 Mar 2018 23:43:03
Is Brendan heading to arsenal ed.
That's what jamesbhoy tells me.

{Ed007's Note - There's been rumours in the papers up here about it but that's about it. Rodgers has said that he wants to be here for 10 in a row and then he plans to run for President of The World.}

17 Mar 2018 23:58:48
You’re welcome to St Brendon, I’m not a big fan
The Kloppster has us on the right track, we are a few quality midfielders and 1 centre back away from being very good, at the moment I’d say us and Spurs are trying to play catch up with the City runaway train, no easy task.

{Ed007's Note - I like Klopp, he's a German Ronny Deila ;) all modern fancy ideas and a genuinely nice guy but he needs to start delivering trophies or it'll all be for nothing. At clubs like Liverppol - and Utd, Chelsea etc, even Celtic- it's all about winning trophies and that's what Klopp will eventually be judged on. I was disappointed Utd didn't appoint Klopp a few years back btw but I wouldn't be surprised to see him going to Bayern in the next couple of years if he can't get Liverpool winning leagues or challenging in the CL, Germans find it really difficult to turn down Bayern.}

18 Mar 2018 00:02:02
Fair enough Singh you see a lot more of them than I
It does appear they just don’t buy in to the philosophy and have downed tools on him.

18 Mar 2018 00:34:43
Koppite what about when Salah follows cout to Spain. madrid is it he is off to😀.

18 Mar 2018 00:07:29
remind me the clown has won nothing with you when he wins he is the next baby jesus and when you loose he dose not no what he is doing you will be wanting brendan white teeth back next, but according to reports Arsenal are a bigger club.

18 Mar 2018 01:05:03
He seems such a grounded genuine lad Leahy that I’d like to think he’d give us 2 more seasons. That sort of patience is very rare in players these days but I do think if we can stay in the UCL positions, win a cup and look like really challenging in the league and UCL then he might stay. He’s not South American so the Barcelona and Madrid obsession won’t quite be as strong a lure if we can keep progressing.
Ultimately it will depend on how badly they want him, he is comfortably heading towards the £200M bracket. If he nears 35 league goals and takes us past Man City then he will be the hottest property in world football.

18 Mar 2018 02:44:52
Lol. Been drinking the black stuff Koppite? He just got owned by Ashley young. 😂.

18 Mar 2018 04:23:42
Do grounded genuine lads normally have their agents contact madrid because they have had a good half a season koppite?

18 Mar 2018 10:36:39
CSM maybe they do if they feel their current club isn’t going to make top 4 at that time. Like I said loyalty is rare but regular UCL football and the prospect of winning trophies could buy time. We have had this with Torres, Mascherano, Alonso, Suarez and Coutinho.
I feel the club can demonstrate enough ambition to hold on to Mo this summer (securing top 4 and getting past City would achieve that, though both are still very much to play for, the latter being very much dependent upon us playing 2 almost flawless legs, big ask) .
DB yes I had a couple of pints of Guinness for Paddy’s day before being warmly entertained on a cold day at Anfield with some amazing goals and quality from Mo Salah, if you actually go to your games I assume you froze watching the same old dross? To coin your phrase, you just got owned by a scouser 🤪.

18 Mar 2018 10:44:24
Dazw and I suppose Mourinho is now no longer the messiah but a very naughty boy? Maybe we should start calling him Brian? 😋.

17 Mar 2018 22:28:10
I respect your right to protest penfold.

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17 Mar 2018 22:47:17
Thanks Ken.

17 Mar 2018 21:52:58
Scholesy trying so hard to be diplomatic on BT. It's killing him :)

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17 Mar 2018 21:59:31
Yeah did you see the sly little look between Savage and Scholes just as they went live. Blatantly they had both been ripping into Utd, but had to go all PC when the cameras started rolling. Come on Scholesy, tear them a new one!

17 Mar 2018 22:34:17
Lol he was ready to burst. Can you imagine him and kean in that dressing room.

17 Mar 2018 20:57:33
Pretty sure that the only reason José actually plays Shaw is to publicly humiliate him.

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17 Mar 2018 21:02:44
Really hope that he leaves and finds can get his career going again, obvious that The Bully wants to torture him.

17 Mar 2018 21:34:59
The bully wants to torture him, you make me laugh!

17 Mar 2018 21:51:15
I thought he was decent in the first half. He's going to make mistakes if he doesn't get a decent run, and knowing José is just looking a chance to embarrass him if he messes up. That said, Young's been playing well of late. I'd still be playing Shaw until the end of the season, taking into account the respective stages of their careers. Give him a proper chance to do whatever it is that José wants from him.

17 Mar 2018 21:56:53
Yeah it's all jose fault that Shaw is a waste of space.

17 Mar 2018 21:59:48
A 100k a week footballer who can't keep himself in shape🍩🍫🍪, its a mystery he struggles to get into the team🤷‍♂️.

17 Mar 2018 22:17:13
Bully? Jog on.

17 Mar 2018 22:24:13
Bully. The word had lost all meaning.

17 Mar 2018 22:32:21
He has been terrible. He will be gone by summer.

{Ed007's Note - Redlyon? He didn't even last that long!}

17 Mar 2018 23:08:08
Shaw doesn’t have the Sustained discipline to be an elite athlete. He’ll be gone in the summer and good riddance. Him, Martial etc are not committed enough or mentally strong enough to be Man Utd players. This obsession with young players is great as long as they’re actually going to be stars. Very few in our squad have it to make it to the top and it’s much harder than the class of 92 made it look.

17 Mar 2018 23:30:26
Nobody is saying that Shaw is a great player, or that he’s going to make the grade at a top club. But if José doesn’t rate him, then don’t play him. He didn’t play poorly in the first half and wasn’t a liability, so I don’t see why you’d sub him at halftime other than to make a show of him.

We have Young, Darmian and Blind who can play lb, so why play Shaw at all?

17 Mar 2018 23:30:41
Great point I tho k that is exactly what Jose said about KDB.

17 Mar 2018 23:39:33
Eric, how can you possibly know they're going to be stars at a young age? Lots of young lads develop at a different rate.

17 Mar 2018 23:42:41
Mourinho hasn't ruin3d anyones career. If shaw cannot be asked to perform the way he has been asmed off then he should rightly be subbed.

Atleast Mourinho gave him a chance to perform but again for some reason or another he didn't do what was asked of him.

These players are a bit too pampered for my liking they need to know they play infron of 70k plus people who come to watch their players give their all and at this time they are not.

18 Mar 2018 00:17:25
Bully. The word has LOST all meaning. Waaa waaa. Bullies everywhere.

18 Mar 2018 01:22:36
It’s a mental thing jred. Shaw is a talented footballer, but he is neither an athlete nor a professional and won’t make it at our club or the top level. As to why Jose plays him
He needs to keep him in the shoo window I’m guessing and rotate Young too who is x10 the pro he is.

However, a very comfortable and successful living awaits him at a mid table club. Same with Martial who sulks far too often and doesn’t get his head down and work enough to be a top player.

I can’t abide laziness and wasted talent in any walk of life and these two have it in abundance. Not willing to put in the work to make it. When you’re paid 80-100k a week so young though why would you bother. If they had half the attitude of Lingard they’d be ripping up this league for us. Too many cruising in our squad and they need shipping out to a less demanding coach and club.

17 Mar 2018 22:33:48
What else do you call it? He publicly shames Shaw all the time, only other person he slagged off was McTom - despite there being 6-8 that he was angry with apparently and Matic playing as 'an island'!

Both Shaw and McTom didn't play on Tuesday, so how can they not have responded as he claims?

He is picking on easy targets always does it, never hear him attacking the big lads or players that do equally as poor as the easy targets that may bite back. If that isn't a bully not sure what is.

Bully = 'A person who habitually seeks to harm or intimidate those whom they perceive as vulnerable. '

18 Mar 2018 05:29:42
Great post reic.

18 Mar 2018 09:41:12
Are any of you seriously going to say that shaw isn't overweight? Its obvious. PUT DOWN THE FORK LUKE! that's all he's got to do. Live your life right for 20 years then turn into razor ruddock. Ita a joke. he's another Anderson. Arse is too fat to be a pro footballer. Get rid of him if the attitude don't change by end of the season.

17 Mar 2018 20:35:35
A lot of empty seats at OT tonight. If Jose was giving lads a game tonight why not put young Gomes on the bench and give him a some game time, he would bring the fans to their feet at least with his attacking skills.

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17 Mar 2018 21:59:16

17 Mar 2018 22:48:53
He’s carrying an injury I believe. I thought we might have saw Chong on the bench tonight.

17 Mar 2018 23:09:01
It’s our only chance of a trophy. Play the best team possible!

17 Mar 2018 19:40:38
Interesting team selection tonight
Romero given a game, is mctom now first choice before pogba?
A lot made of some United players is mc Tom currently a United quality first 11 cm, is he a better option to pogba at the moment .

A lot made of Valencia not being good enough, but is he a Jose player. He is captain and if fit like lukaku and matic he plays?
It's a bit like fellaini people don't want him would like to see him sold . But does Jose rate him, is he a Jose player?

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17 Mar 2018 21:13:12
What do I win if I get the questions correct?

17 Mar 2018 21:42:11
Depends which question.

17 Mar 2018 21:56:29
Jred doesn't answer questions he asks them.

17 Mar 2018 22:25:42
Nothing supa. just random questions with no banter or opinion. Veiled sly digs come before the denials and told you so's sitting on the fence so much he has splinters in his arse😂
Romero played all games so far in this comp i think. It would be ironic if we win it and ddg doesn't play again like the europa last season.
Goid win tonight. Young did ok when he came on don't see any issue taking shaw off.
Fellaini started 5 games this season no wonder he wants out no point being a 15 min a week man at his age. Mctom getting in ahead of him and pogba at the min and doing ok.
Good win a semi and trip to wembley to look forward to.
Dont care who we get in the draw.

17 Mar 2018 22:36:53
Come on Leahy I always back up my opinion
😂😂😂😂love it.

17 Mar 2018 23:25:09
Fellaini never been a Utd player. He knows it, we all know it and he can earn more money and a longer contract elsewhere and play every week.

17 Mar 2018 23:31:58
Eric is he not a United player now?

Does Jose rate him.

18 Mar 2018 01:20:04
5 starts all season that's how much he rates him.

18 Mar 2018 01:24:58
Never Utd quality but wish him the very best of luck wherever he goes because at least he gives everything when he plays.

18 Mar 2018 05:32:40
Cant argue with that eric. definitely a 100%.

17 Mar 2018 18:42:11
Proud to be an Irishman, today. :)

#upyerjamroleeddiejones #grandslam.

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17 Mar 2018 18:50:34
Brilliant Steve. Great team.

17 Mar 2018 19:03:53
Ireland fully deserved nou. They are my bets for the World Cup. Have a feeling they will do it. Top coach and stockdale looks a player.

17 Mar 2018 19:10:54
Fully deserved win and the pride showed in every player. Can we transform some of this pride to our over paid over hyped players.

17 Mar 2018 19:29:29
Funnier things have happened, Park. Though I always feel better going into a big tournie as underdogs. Favouritism doesn't sit easily on Irish shoulders most of the time!

17 Mar 2018 19:42:55
That is true nou but I feel Ireland are peaking at the right time. Formidable pack, especially the back row. Massive fan of Connor Murray best 9 in the northern hemisphere. Pains me to say but England have peaked and their attack is so one dimensional. Hopefully will get myself some tickets for the World Cup, I’ve always wanted to go to japan.

17 Mar 2018 22:22:02
I just wish the World Cup was this year, mate :)

17 Mar 2018 22:50:24
In Ulster we don’t have much to shout about in the rugby but stockdale is doing us proud.

17 Mar 2018 12:31:02
We can debate tradition, heritage, history, tactics or style until we're all blue in the face but it won't make a drop of difference.

The brutal truth is we now play the Jose way. We now dance to his tune, we now follow his ideology. He won't change the very principles that has brought him success his entire career. He's even come out and said it now.

My stance is this. He got it wrong on Tuesday night. Terribly wrong. That being said maybe we all under under estimated Sevilla. Three Europa League's in a row and a Spanish Cup final tells you that are no mugs. We didn't play well on the night and we're out. At the highest level, especially in Europe if you don't turn up you go home it's as simple as that.

The board are only interested in pounds and pence, increasing revenue and exploiting the brand. A top 4 finish is their idea of panacea so don't expect Jose to be going anywhere anytime soon.

To his distractors, if you don't like the brand of football vote with your feet. This is the only currency the board understands.

To the rest let's accept this is the Jose show. It might not be the Utd way but we can't argue that it hasn't brought him success at several different clubs across Europe's top leagues. History tells us he won't be here forever. I was angry, I'm still hurting but maybe the only way we will be able to judge his reign is after he's gone and hope for better days ahead. Let him do his job, trust his pedigree and console ourselves in the fact that even though the football may never be thrilling the trophy cabinet may still yet tell another story.

It's far to early to judge Just yet.

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17 Mar 2018 14:05:06
Im with you danny. If the board back him and its the same this time next year and we have not improved style wise and result wise then ill change my tune. But for me he took over the worst squad in recent history that needed major surgery in almost evrry position. It has been done in smaller bites than say chelsea and city did. I trust him to get it right. So far he has tbis bunch in 2nd place that's huge improvement on the last 4 seasons.
The style arguments are right too. That needs improving too.

17 Mar 2018 14:45:31
Agree with both of you.

Style will not really change to be fair. It will just be more effective once he has the bought the right players or if the existing players decide to change their attitude and work on the same length as the manager.

17 Mar 2018 14:46:18
I agree Ken. People like to dismiss the first 5 years under Fergi and pretend it didn't happen. I don't remember too much cavalier football being played back then.

Don't get me wrong I'm no fool and I know the landscape of football has changed considerably since then but as we've been taking about history maybe we should heed a lesson from our own past and put more faith and trust in a man with a proven pedigree and track record and dare to believe better times lie ahead.

17 Mar 2018 16:39:07
People have dodgy memories. To say it took SAF 5 years to pay to attractive football is complete nonsense. He arrived in Nov ‘86, we won the FA Cup in 1990, his third full season. We won the Cup Winners Cup the year after and I remember us beating Arsenal 6-2 at Highbury in ‘90.

SAF’s issue was he finished second in his first full season and he says himself he should have started rebuilding earlier than he did. City smashed us 5-1 at Main Rd in ‘89 which was when it was getting very rough. That was the season that caused people to question him and 1990 wasn’t much better but we won the Cup and the rest is history.

It may have taken some time for the full beautiful football to arrive but we rarely played for a draw, set up to defend, stifle the opposition. People have very strange memories when it comes to SAf’s early years. He bought some dodgy players and it took him a couple of years to find a winning formula, but his team always tried to win.

17 Mar 2018 16:46:09
Loved it . We all now know he is here to stay and if he departs then we will have to sack him. He is building an empire and a couple more pieces and it will be complete. BORN WINNER😆😆.

17 Mar 2018 11:32:43
Anyone see the cantona interview
He said Jose is a very good manager, intelligent man, but he is A defensive manager Not a fit for Manchester United.
He likes pep style of play. would like to play under him but he would never play for city.
Good man Eric I agree with you.

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17 Mar 2018 18:22:06
Not sure pep would have him. surely he's past it now.

17 Mar 2018 18:52:45
Eric is the king.
I'd still play him. lol.

17 Mar 2018 10:27:59
I think Jose had a point when he says he didn't inherit a great squad, he didn't.
He has however, spent a significant amount of money on improving that squad. Some of his buys have been very good, Lukaku, Bailly and Matic. The rest in all honesty have had a mix time at the club.
Can anyone say any of Lindelof, Pogba, Zlatan, Mkhitaryan or Sanchez has been a huge success? Mkhitaryan has already been shown the door, Zlatan had an impact in his first season, but I have no idea why he was given a contract extension while injured, as there appears to be no real intention to play him now he's fit.
Sanchez, Pogba and Lindelof may yet go on to be great signings, but they have had very mixed impacts so far.

Jose talks about heritage, well heritage and history go hand in hand. In our history we have only ever been successful by doing things one way.

That is trust in youth, attack teams and play to win. Sir Matt Busby was the real start of success at our club, after he stepped aside we had many different managers, but the clubs success didn't return until we got a manager who trusted in youth, set up to attack teams and go for the win. It took 26 years for that manager to come to our club.

If we want success the blueprint is there before our eyes, in our history.
Now we just need to be brave enough to reach for it.

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17 Mar 2018 10:53:23
Totally agree Shappy. Too many excuses for me. All we want is some attacking football.

17 Mar 2018 10:59:08

It took SAF a few years, a lot of money spent and a winning team before putting youth in.

17 Mar 2018 11:04:12
And I would add that after spending the money initially the football was absolute garbage to begin with.

17 Mar 2018 11:07:03
I think we all expect signings that have been bought for a seriously large fee to go straight into the side and dislodge the players the manager has doubts about. I'm still waiting for Lindelof to show the form that made Jose want to acquire his services, Pogba seems to have it in his mind that he's this all conquering hero when he's just an expensive show pony. Zlatan was a stop gap and although he did weigh in with a few goals he missed some absolute sitters but like I've said he wasn't here for the long term so he gets a pass. Mhki blew hot and cold, mainly the latter and I expected him to be a success but Arsenal will find he's not cut out for this league. Sanchez, it's a bit early yet but I bet he can't believe all the lazy, can't pass and move players he now finds himself surrounded by. I'm not sure I'd trust Mourinho with another kings ransom to spend, how much do you need to spend before you can go toe to toe with the luminaries of Sevilla?

17 Mar 2018 11:12:37
God help city, they are forever going to have to follow their blueprint and spend 100s of millions 😂.

17 Mar 2018 11:25:16
I get the impression that Jose has been waiting to make that press conference for quite a while now. Why I’m just not sure though.

His use of the word heritage was very deliberate. I agree with you Shappy on what Uniteds heritage is, and it is not defined by the last seven years. Nor is Liverpool’s or city’s.

It appears to me that Jose’s only real intention is to take a swipe at the ‘idiotic idealists’ who believe Manchester United should play football in a certain way and it’s staff should act a certain way.

Who are these ‘idiotic idealists’? Is it us the fans, the media or is it the people within the club who believe Jose will never be a good fit for Manchester United?

I never wanted Jose and this week both on and off the pitch has highlighted why he should never have been appointed. Poor unentertaining football and a moody personality that lacks class and humility which goes against the real heritage of Manchester United.

17 Mar 2018 11:49:47
We should go after pocchetino Asap before Barcelona gets him. We have been appointing the wrong managers to lead the club. I don't even feel like waking up early just to watch the team play anymore and after Jose's interview on tuesday i don't think i will ever get behind him anymore, lost my respect.

17 Mar 2018 12:04:12
Well said Shappy. Great post.

17 Mar 2018 12:52:33
Redman never happened, we have always played swashbuckling football, never went out to smaller teams in Europe because we are man united.

17 Mar 2018 14:07:07

17 Mar 2018 15:38:27
Ah all this entitlement crap. knee jerk and arrogance.

17 Mar 2018 17:54:19
Lollll @ Angel. City got to keep on spending. 😂😂.


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