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15 Jun 2018 07:33:23
Who do you guys think will/ should get more game time out of some of our younger players? Players like Tuanzebe, McTominay and Fosu Mensah.

McTominay is obviously quite highly rated by Jose and will likely see a reasonable amount of playing time but Tuanzebe and Fosu Mensah don't seem to have an obvious place in the squad. Do you think these guys will have another year at United of playing in the early rounds of the cups or can you see them breaking into the team? Personally, though I'd love to see it, I can't see much game time at all for Tuanzebe and Fosu Mensah.

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15 Jun 2018 08:03:40
Fosu mensah should get the most game time because i think he's the most talented of the three, can play multiple positions and i don't think his work ethic is in question.

Dont see how tuanzebe can get any game time if we plan to have 6 centre backs on book and only play with two central defenders at one time.

Reality is mctominay will play much more next season especially if fellaini leaves because he works hard and is willing to do everything the manager says.

15 Jun 2018 11:06:33
I think mctominay will go out on loan depending on another cm signing and AP coming back.

15 Jun 2018 11:26:06
TFM depends where he's going to be playing. RB or DCM. Tuanzebe probably needs a loan until we can free up some space. Maybe like TFM and go to a lower prem team for a season, see how he gets on.

15 Jun 2018 13:37:42
I can see TFM leaving. He has made it clear that he wants regular game time, and I don’t think he’s at the stage where he will get it with us.

Review Of The Day 15th June 2018

15 Jun 2018 06:42:06
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 15th June 2018

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15 Jun 2018 12:59:41
I thought Bielsa would have been more sought after than having to drop down to the championship.

15 Jun 2018 05:54:53
Just read that rashford has a slight knee injury and has misse the first 2 training sessions with england.

Played well so far. Gutted for him if its true as he will miss the first match.

And from a footy fans perspective, i'd rather him than sterling in the 10 role.

{Ed001's Note - he is back fit mate.}

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15 Jun 2018 07:26:43
Cheers ed 😁

Just out of interest ed, who do u fancy to Win the WC?

{Ed001's Note - has to be Brazil that is favourite.}

15 Jun 2018 08:11:34
Dont think rash will start ezrs anyhow.

14 Jun 2018 21:18:47
Is there a World Cup page Eds?
I just wanna say, some of the teams in this are shocking, Saudi today for example, Panama, Iran etc all probably won't score or gain a point and then plan is to extend it to 46 teams come 2026, will be worse than ever, I can see some of the European teams that missed out like Ireland, Wales, Italy, Holland would add to it but I mean we are going to end up with Cape Verde v Solomon Islands the way it's going.

{Ed001's Note - World Cup page

I am not sure Ireland under Martin O'Neill would add anything, they are dreadful. Wales are not the team they were either. Italy and Holland are not there because they were awful as well. No one has missed out that didn't deserve to do so.}

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15 Jun 2018 07:36:58
Yeah I agree they didn’t qualify on merit but in comparison Italy, Ireland, Wales and Holland amongst others would be at least competitive at least in the group stage, only going to be worse when it expands, some of these teams in this tournament are awful.
Thanks for the link Ed! Dunno why I’m ranting tbh, Like you I’m not a fan of international football, my mates can’t get their heads round it but doesn’t excite me like club football, especially as wales rarely qualify for anything lol.

{Ed001's Note - it is dire to watch, so much slower than club football.}

15 Jun 2018 09:27:29
It's as bad as the first round of the CL, only gets going after that.

15 Jun 2018 11:47:34
Ahem, Ed001. There was one team. ;)

{Ed001's Note - nope can't think of one....}

14 Jun 2018 22:21:04
I would like to wish the Irish pirlo Kenneth the best of luck and shappy the English chappy also the best of luck for their big day, is it tomorrow or Saturday .
Do the page proud Boys,
At least one of you will win.

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15 Jun 2018 00:11:27
Good luck guys have a blast. Ken I’m expecting a captain’s performance. let’s hope the fitness holds up 😂😂.

15 Jun 2018 00:27:39
Looking forward to it expecting big things .
Can someone confirm how I can watch it.

15 Jun 2018 06:39:23
Facebook page jred.

15 Jun 2018 08:16:40
Cheers leahy. and park. i'm arriving about 15 mins brfore ko to avoid a warm up I've about 30 mins in me and no way om blowing that on a warm up?
Think fb page is streaming it for all tbe armchair fans.
Im looking forward to meeting 002 and the other guys. Benny put a load of work into it. Ages vary from mid 20s to 54 i think is the oldest so it should be good fun.

15 Jun 2018 10:14:53
Cheers guys, looking forward to it. There are a couple other United page lads playing as well.

Me and Ken are on opposite sides so that will be unusual. Lol.

We might have to make a gentlemans agreement, if Ken's side wins Jose stays, if my side wins Jose goes. Lol.

The match will be streamed live on the football-rumours Facebook page. Saturday at 3pm BST. If you wanna see me and Ken make fools of ourselves.

14 Jun 2018 21:11:01
Greizman stays at AM.
I think he is a great player but he is a bit of an arse really.
2 summers in a row he has courted publicity. Well done to AM to hold onto one of their most influential players. can't think Barcelona will be too happy.

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14 Jun 2018 21:47:24
Good player ken but do we want someone who holds press conferences to announce a non transfer. Imagine calling a work meeting to tell everyone that you were there.

14 Jun 2018 21:49:37
Completely agree ken, his ego far exceeds his talent. Good luck in the game.

14 Jun 2018 21:58:48
Barca deserve all they get.

14 Jun 2018 22:31:48
Staying at Atletico MDL.

14 Jun 2018 22:56:16
It wasn't a press conference was a 30 minute documentary lol he made 2 and told them which one to play.

14 Jun 2018 23:18:11
Cheers ajh. Its a case of hope to survive😂.

14 Jun 2018 13:58:57
Might get slated for this one but. David Luiz is up for grabs with the right man management can be a top player who can cover a number of positions ideal as one of three centre backs and a wealth of experience in the prem. 😆😆.

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14 Jun 2018 14:09:23
Not for me. When I think of David Luiz, what comes to mind is great free kicks, dribbling out of the back, big hair, crying after getting destroyed by Germany. But not no-nonsense defending.

14 Jun 2018 16:42:28
Side show Bob.

14 Jun 2018 19:57:16
I'd take him in a heartbeat.

{Ed002's Note - He has been injured most of the season and is still at the training ground working each day - with a trainer and three youth players who are working to help him on a voluntary basis.}

14 Jun 2018 20:27:18
Well at least he is dedicated to playing football.

14 Jun 2018 21:06:33
Not for me. Terrible discipline for a cb imo.

14 Jun 2018 23:00:20
For the right price i would definitely take him. This guy can be great on his day and is miles better than most of our current players. I think alongside Bailly or Lindelof or both in a 3 man defense he would be a coup signing

He has his faults but you can't deny his will and determination to play plus he has an act for cracking headers? The goal for PSG vs Chelsea is 1 to remember surely.

14 Jun 2018 21:08:30
Thanks ed a thoroughly good player and seemingly a very nice popular guy . We could do a lot worse imo, once fully fit of course .

15 Jun 2018 00:46:18
Not for me. Too erratic.

14 Jun 2018 13:34:18
Coaching question for you all regarding defenders: if a player has all the natural tools and technical ability, what separates him from failure and success?

I will use our players as examples. Smalling has good physical qualities, size and speed, limited confidence on the ball, but his critical flaw is his concentration lapses (not to mention his excessive holding, which someday will catch up to him) . Jones has excellent physical qualities, tough, brave, not bad with the ball, but he stands out for his moments of panic.

Blind was always excellent technically, but too slow. Rojo has a great battling mentality, but just isn't that good. Darmian could mark and tackle well, but offered little going forward.

Bailly has it all, speed, athleticism, confidence as a defender, confidence with the ball, and a little swagger, though he usually gives you at least one unpredictable moment per game. At least it's usually something he does with the ball, rather than an idiotic slide tackle, like Smalling and Jones have done over the years.

I am thinking now of our young defenders with good potential - Lindelof, who has shown a lot, and especially Fosu-Mensah and Tuanzebe, and soon enough, we will see about Dalot. Lindelof seems very good on the ball, might lack a bit of physicality, but he just needs games. Tuanzebe looked awfully composed for such a young player, and I would love to see him get a chance to prove himself. Fosu-Mensah has great physical tools, looked positionally suspect at times. But cannot these mistakes be coached out of a player? I would like to think yes, as long as a defender shows he can maintain concentration and composure in the big moments and throughout the 90 minutes.

There is a lot to it for what it takes to succeed as a defender. You need to win physical battles, one on one battles vs the dribblers, make good decisions with the ball, and stay switched on all the time. It's something we do not often discuss on here. And related to our transfer seasons, can one of our own grow into becoming a great defender to partner Bailly or must we buy again?

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14 Jun 2018 16:33:38
My grandad always used to say to me that what defines a great player over a good player is what's between the ears. How quick the player can Process what is going on in front of him which is why some players can look like they are either always in the right place or have more time on the ball than others.
As hated and awful a human being as he is I think this is why someone like John Terry was so good for do long.
It's why for me Smalling sometimes looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights even though physically and ability he has all that is needed to be a top defender.

14 Jun 2018 18:26:12
John Terry was awful. Poor positioning and stupid decisions. He was just good at last ditch recovery tackles which is why people think he's good. Often he was recovering his own mistake. The game against Sweden as an example.

14 Jun 2018 18:38:43
John Terry was a legend, what a slip!

14 Jun 2018 18:44:11
Someone has to take Smalling to one side and smack that stupid holding and wrestling out of him.

I watched the 2nd divison play off at wembley ref gave every holding/ wrestling decision -including a penalty and he looked at the defender when he blew the whistle for the penalty as if to say "you give me no choice moron " Will cost us big time if he doesn't cut it out.

14 Jun 2018 20:09:44
Will never smack it out of him because it always happens after he is caught flat footed m, This is mainly due to the fact that the attacker knows his job is to get a head on the ball and CS need 1.1 secs for his brain to register the projected area of the ball coming and that that he has to clear the lines

By which time the attacker has already got 2 steps on him hence the pulling of shirts etc.

14 Jun 2018 20:10:49
If refs ever gain consistency then yes it will cost us.

All our defenders have issues. Smalling can't concentrate, jones is made of glass, rojo is better in a 3 than a 2, blind is slow. Should be moving a couple of these on.

14 Jun 2018 21:39:51
All players have strengths and weaknesses, no player is great at everything. Rio had lapses in concentration, Vidic was limited on the ball.

The difference between the weaknesses in defenders and other players is that when theit weaknesses are exposed it often leads to a goalscoring opportunity. Or at least a heart in mouth moment.

The trick to having great defenders is having a great defensive unit. A system where all the defenders work together to cover for eachother which limits how often their weaknesses are exposed making them look like better players.

Vidic wasn't a great passer out from the back, but he hardly ever had to do is as Rio was alongside him spraying balls around.

When Rio had a lapse in concentration Vidic would cover.

Smalling lacks the technical ability that he would have gained if he had been coached by an academy coach during his formative years.

All defenders have areas of weakness, when you sign a new defender it is more important than any other position as to how their talents and abilities will sync in with the current players.

We are missing an organiser at the back, someone to bring it altogether. That is why I have such high hopes for Tuanzebe. Not only is he a talented defender, with good pace and physicality and composure. He is a talker, he communicates and organises his fellow defenders. He is exactly the kind of defender we need, he just hasn't got the experience. But he'll never have it if we don't play him.

15 Jun 2018 00:12:54
Spot on about Tuanzebe shappy. I would love to see him integrated this season as he has all the attributes to be our cb for years to come.

15 Jun 2018 01:17:32
Good to hear about Tuanzebe. Not being local like some of you, I didn't know that he was a talker and organizer. The more we see of him, the better.

14 Jun 2018 13:33:49
Guys has there been an official announcement on Fred or are we still waiting on the international clearance?

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14 Jun 2018 18:39:16
There’s an issue with Rod and Jane’s visas.

14 Jun 2018 19:57:49
Rwwd 👍.

Manchester United fans not so United on Martial decision

14 Jun 2018 11:18:12
{Ed's Note - Ed055 has posted a new article entitled, Manchester United fans not so United on Martial decision

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