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15 Apr 2018 18:34:49
I think utd have played a blinder, they stopped their bitter rivals from winning the title against them, and arguably hurt their mentality with the comeback last week. Then today you somehow lost to WBA to make city champions but confirmed it in a way where you have done it on your terms.
We have all known for a while city will win the league but doing it this way seems like they won it by default.
Also still think you will finish second and win the fa cup which isn’t the worst season in the world.

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15 Apr 2018 20:18:58
Brilliant. I think they planned to do just that 😅😅Nnnooottt.

15 Apr 2018 20:55:05
You would have a point if 2nd wasnt up for grabs, but as it looks now, liverpool will take it.

15 Apr 2018 21:44:19
My comment was meant as a bit of tounge and cheek, and don't you boys have a game in hand, think itll be enough to just beat us to second.

15 Apr 2018 18:24:03
Will pogba be at United next season?

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15 Apr 2018 18:31:54
Should he be?

15 Apr 2018 18:37:55
His style of play is incompatible with Mourinho's. So he should probably move on for his own sake.

15 Apr 2018 18:40:52
I would not be too upset to see him go.

15 Apr 2018 18:41:54
Tell us the answer to that jred or even your opinion.

15 Apr 2018 18:54:01
I would have thought he will be jred will teams pay the money involved to buy him or want to shell out huge wages for him, he's more often a show pony than an effective cm .
I wouldn't just pick him out today he was poor but all the team bar the goalie were . How many of the team would people be truely gutted to see leave as they are irreplaceable bar ddg, maybe rash .
The team were listless it's ok saying it's deadwood from previous managers but jm bought 5 of them .
I have no clue our best formation or best team . We have gained some decent results against good sides but have have shown poor attitude in some of our lesser games on paper .

15 Apr 2018 19:06:15
Makes you wonder why the manager bought him?

15 Apr 2018 19:27:05
are you suggesting he should go Jred? It looks like you don't want him to stay.

15 Apr 2018 19:49:54
Would Pogba get into any of the other top sides? Liverpool maybe who play Henderson and Milner but beyond that, who? He has been bang average for most games, he flatters to deceive.

15 Apr 2018 21:56:44
Back to the lost soul pogba today.

15 Apr 2018 23:42:59
In a game like last 2 seasons. doesn't matter. I was so excited when he returned. but I wish we would move for Kante instead.

16 Apr 2018 05:30:28
If Pogba leaves because he's "incompatible", then you might as well add martial rashford sanchez mata Herrera shaw blind Darmian fellaini to the list as not many players seem happy playing for Mourinho.

16 Apr 2018 06:23:22
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I want rid of pogba because I asked "Will pogba be at United next season"

I hope he is here playing well next season, but I'm not sure he is going to be . Doesn't look happy to me.

15 Apr 2018 18:21:46
Last week we beat the best side in the country away from home, this week we lost to the worst side in the League at OT. The issue, as always, is why we seem incapable of playing fast attacking football for more than 30 minutes every couple of months.

Pogba turned in a MOTM performance last week, this week he was dreadful. Lethargic, lazy, casual, never in the game. How is it possible that he can be so different one week later?

This season we be lost at Newcastle and Huddersfield, drew at home to Burnley and Southampton and let’s not forget getting knocked out of the League Cup by Bristol City. We seem to be able to raise purse
View for the big games but not the bread and butter games.

Jose seemed to know today would be an issue, before the game he was urging the players to forget last week which was a worrying sign. But surely as Manager he needed to deal with it and get their heads right. I’ve watched some dull games but I struggle to think of many as dull as today’s.

Congratulations to Pep, he bought well, improved what he had, and played some amazing football. None of which Jose did. We are so far behind City it is embarrassing. Despite the league table I think Liverpool have momentum and if they don’t pip us to second I expect them to continue to progress next year; with the right signings they will be a threat.

As for our team, we have some good players who for whatever reason can’t seem to play well very often so (are you listening Kenneth), it might be time for a clear out. I’m not a huge fan of Matic, Pogba flatters to deceive, Lukaku is not at the level we need, full backs are ageing wingers, I could go on. After the high of last week I am just so disappointed at what we saw today.

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15 Apr 2018 18:32:53
As with your competition at the begging of the season, I put Liverpool to finish 2nd, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see it happen. They’re currently a better side than us, no doubt about it, and with Keita coming in they will challenge for the title next year.

15 Apr 2018 19:00:28
We have some very good players at the club. We have some very average players at the club. I think we agree on that AJH
Their is no leadership on the pitch.
I was expecting to see a very different team today with maybe matic lukaku and young on the bench with a view to next week and getting some game time into martial shaw rash or mctom.

15 Apr 2018 18:47:59
City have been magnificent all season and guardiola has worked wonders so hats off and well done city.

As far as we go it seems whenever there is a bit of good feeling and positivity about the club something like this happens and it's worrying I must say .

Today was completely unacceptable we were completely dreadful and I just can't understand it surely after last week we should have been full of it, eager to ruin their party for another week and we roll over and get our bellies tickled again by quite possibly the worst team to stink the league up.

I thought last week was a turning point for pogba I naively thought that we were going to start seeing the player we thought we bought, but no we got the non existent show pony yet again.

Matic looks to be a 100 years old and knackered, our full backs I don't even know where to start so I won't.

The manager has a whole lot to answer for but some of these players are stealing a living at our club.

15 Apr 2018 18:49:31
Good post AJH.
Just heard Jose post match interview and also pundits which makes sense about Jose not sure what will turn out from who. I agree we need some real clearing as players egos are in play and threaten the club’s progress and success. Consistency is obviously lacking.
It cannot be we played well last week and so dross today. If we need to then we need to really clear. We can provide the environment for the players but if they just roller coaster then I agree with you we clear.
That said kudos to Pep for getting Citeh to win. Well done.

15 Apr 2018 18:10:31
Bad loss for us today but congrats to Citeh winning the PL. Hope to be challenging them next season.

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15 Apr 2018 18:44:33
Yeah, Congratulations to City, over the season they have played some football that is simply beyond the collection of bottlers Utd employs. We have always derided other teams and have all at one time been guilty of putting another teams decent performance against us as being their "Cup final" well I'll tell you something, last weeks game against City was our players Cup final. They came into todays match with the type of arrogance they do not merit, this team is writing cheques it cannot cash.

15 Apr 2018 18:03:57
Wow! That's definitely the worst and most embarrassing defeat since Fergie retired. Unbelievable on all the wrong levels. Gutted.

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15 Apr 2018 18:09:54
Poor flat team performance today .

15 Apr 2018 18:29:53
You have a very short memory. Moyes year was a cavalcade of embarrassments.

15 Apr 2018 19:17:14
Most embarrassing defeat since Fergie 😂😂 lost 3-0 at home to City and Liverpool under Moyes and consistently played like today under LVG.

15 Apr 2018 18:46:37
High paid, spoiled players. Hang your heads in shame. I suppose that you won't even have a few sleepless moments of reflection.

15 Apr 2018 20:20:44
Really? What was the motivation for today? I'm not dismissing a poor performance but what are we playing for Now apart from the fa cup? I imagine most of the players just thought that being on the pitch today would automatically get the 3 points but credit to West Brom. They defended for their lives today and got lucky at the other end. Foster pulled off some excellent saves where as DDG really didn't have a great deal to do.

Hardly season defining.

15 Apr 2018 22:03:58
Did we not lose today to a team who haven’t won a game since god knows when? Definitely the most embarrassing. We’ve lost to city many times down the years but today was ridiculous in my opinion. It’s so inconsistent at the moment it’s impossible to go into any game feeling confident of the win.

15 Apr 2018 17:53:29
Needs to be changes. Get some of the kids in there, Chong and Gomes would maybe play with a bit of bloody urgency. That makes last week completely pointless, dreadful performance.

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15 Apr 2018 18:09:49
I thought the lack of fight shown when playing Sevilla couldn't be repeated, how wrong was I? We are simply light years away from being a top side, there is no way on God's Earth that we will any of the top prizes with his bunch of idlers.

15 Apr 2018 18:11:43
Agreed caolan some of these overpaid idiots need to have their head wobbled. No desire, urgency or creativity. I’m sick of it. People would kill to have the opportunities they do and they serve up dross like that. Get the youngsters in who will show some passion.

15 Apr 2018 18:50:32
There’s some really talented kids at this club. Maybe it’s time to put some faith in them. For example gribbin couldn’t have been worse that mata, Chong couldn’t have been worse than Sanchez. I could go on, what’s the point in continuing with players who may not even have a future here? Eg Herrera, Smalling. I’m at the point where I’m so bored watching Valencia do the same thing each game, I wanna see joe Riley get a chance or heck, even 16 year old Ethan Laird.

15 Apr 2018 17:18:35
Rumour has it United are playing this afternoon?

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15 Apr 2018 17:52:11
its like we don't know how to attack anymore.

15 Apr 2018 16:49:10
So I wrote a post at half time against City saying how bad we were, and then got called out by a few, we know who they are, after we came back to win.

Is this acceptable to those of you who think we're a top side? Those who think we're improving? I'm sorry, I said it then, I said it the weeks before that and I'll say it now, we are miles away from a good side. This first half has been utter dross, I say it every week. Slow, lethargic, gutless, toothless football. Lukaku is a poor footballer. Sure he'll score 25 a season, but needs plenty of handed to hit that. He has a touch like rooneys. He's not a top striker. Matic does a job but is so slow on the ball it's like watching paint dry. Pogba has all the potential but can't be arsed to speed his play up.

This football is garbage, and I'm sick of watching it. Some still believe we're on the up. I worry about those people.

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15 Apr 2018 16:55:25
Why do you keep watching stand?

15 Apr 2018 16:56:06
You'll look silly saying that after our open top parade for the 2nd place trophy.

15 Apr 2018 17:09:49
Because I’m a life long fan Angel. I’ll always follow. But I don’t enjoy it anymore. Are you enjoying this?

15 Apr 2018 17:11:24
West Brom are relegated and we are playing along the same lines as themselves.
Not great viewing for any United fan, watching the way we play.
We should be miles ahead of these.

15 Apr 2018 17:51:07
As with 90% of our performances this season we’ve witnessed tripe again! It frustrates me that the occasional city / palace performances happen and paper over all the Sevilla / Newcastle / West Brom cracks! I really don’t have an issue with loosing or drawing a match and I don’t really care who it’s against, it’s the nature of the performance and the attitude that really gets me. Pathetic result!

15 Apr 2018 17:51:39
Totally agree stand. We are boring beyond belief.

15 Apr 2018 17:53:17
Our play has been dreadful. Hats off to city, we criticise teams for not having a go at them, but city are excellent at breaking down teams that sit in. We are dreadful at it.

The usual gripe of lack of movement and poor defending. The ref is not helping matters. A stone wall penalty and Nyom has committed enough fouls to get 2 red cards (cumulative yellows) . The only performance worse than the ref was ours. Oh well, roll on next season. As the song says “things can only get better”. At least we will hopefully finish 2nd. maybe.!

15 Apr 2018 18:04:20
It is possible for us to be improving AND miles away from a top side. We are definitely better than last year. Still not great though and not happy with the level of our performances. What’s difficult to understand about that?

15 Apr 2018 18:13:47
RWWD, how are we improving? What are you watching that I’m not? Hundreds of millions spent, manager has lost his mojo years ago, half the squad wouldn’t get in a top 6 side. Really is piss poor.

{Ed004's Note - If half the squad wouldn't get into another top 6 side the managers doing something right to get 2nd in the league.}

15 Apr 2018 18:23:08
I thought today was dreadful, everyone with Theo rack to goal, slow, lacking ideas, a very very depressing performance.

15 Apr 2018 18:25:07
How are we improving? Scored more goals, won more games, lost less, drawn less, conceded less, higher league finish.

15 Apr 2018 18:27:57
another 2 hours of my life I won't get back. Different week, same old dross. Mourinho is too stubborn to adapt his winning style from the 00s. Football has evolved, his ethos hasn't. Sports science has gone from strength to strength in 10 years. Players are fitter, teams are more tactically astute and teams are all more wealthy due to financial circumstances (TV deals etc) . This WBA team would never have been relegated with sub 25 points 10 years ago. What i'm saying is that its now a more even playing field now and I don't believe Mourinho is tactically astute to compete with the very best in today's football.

I have no idea what the ideal and realistic solution is. Just my two cents.

15 Apr 2018 18:40:13
RWWD, it’s not the same team as last season. He has Lukaku, Sanchez, Lindelof, Matic, didn’t have them last season.

Liverpool and city have improved too. It’s not just about improving, at what rate we improve. We can improve every season and get further away from the top if we don’t improve more than the better sides. Totally flawless.

Last season we won a European and domestic cup. So in that sense we’ve declined.

15 Apr 2018 18:51:32
You’re arguing against points I’ve never made now. We’ve measurably improved. That was my only point. Doesn’t mean I think we’re improved enough or that I’m happy.

15 Apr 2018 19:15:13
I know it’s not the same team as last year. We improved it.

15 Apr 2018 18:31:52
Ed4
Ever noticed how good players look in a team that playing well?

15 Apr 2018 18:45:36
Ed004, which of city, Liverpool, spurs, arsenal or Chelsea would fight for the signature of Shaw, Smalling, Blind, Fellaini, Darmian, Young, Valencia ( past it now ) , etc etc?

{Ed004's Note - Ok so if we take it from that perspective which of Pep, Klopp, Pochetino etc get 2nd place with those players having to play keys roles for their teams throughout the season? Not going to lie I'm not in mood to have another repetitive and boring argument again and I've work I need to get done. It's my own fault for commenting apologies.}

15 Apr 2018 19:40:51
RWWD,

But apart from that, what did the Romans ever do for us?

15 Apr 2018 22:10:23
Pep and Klopp would do much better with this squad, of that I have no doubts.

17 Apr 2018 05:19:56
Hehehe, GDS2 that really made me laugh. i need to watch that movie again :D.

15 Apr 2018 15:22:39
I know he isn't very popular on here but what a fantastic job rafa Benitez has done my shout for manager of the season.

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15 Apr 2018 15:42:19
Deano i just said the same thing
Great job he has done.

15 Apr 2018 15:49:20
Couldn’t agree more Deano he has done a phenomenal job at Newcastle with his hands pretty much tied without proper investment. He’s a top 6 manager for sure and Newcastle are very lucky to have him. If Newcastle had a proper owner they would be challenging the top 6 with rafa. The Newcastle side is very young as well so building for the future.

15 Apr 2018 15:53:49
Great job, but I think Dyche's achievements at Burnley, would have him ahead for me.

15 Apr 2018 15:57:24
I’m with you Deano.
From his interviews you can see that he has been humbled and he seems a different person now. I feel if he can get a few key players, he can bring Newcastle back to higher up the table. He is an old warrior and knows the PL scene. I like him now than when he was at Liverpool.
Funny how a bit of humility help anyone who can learn from it.

15 Apr 2018 16:35:57
Agree 666 I’m a fan of Rafa now. Perhaps the awful experience at real humbled him. Feel sorry for him at both Chelsea and real because he was written off before he he had begun. I remember in his first game at home for Chelsea and the home fans were booing and abusing him. And he still managed to win the Europa league for them.

15 Apr 2018 07:35:43
Hi Lads, first time poster here. Just learned of this forum from a dear friend (also a die hard united fan) who used to post on here.

First off its best people understand that my allegiance is with the United manager, not Jose but the United manager position and as long as he is here he gets my support. He has my respect for what he has achieved with us so far.

That said i wish to ask why people favor Poch for our role. For me he is one of the weakest managers to really take over one of the title contenders. There is a saying that goes- WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH, THE TOUGH GET GOING.

But for Spurs, when the going gets tough, spurs pack up their bags and take the train home.

I really don't get why people always have that romance with him. His team may be playing some good ball but still has scored less than us, will finish lower than us. We really need to think like MANCHESTER UNITED. the pedigree of this club is huge.

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15 Apr 2018 07:52:19
Welcome UA and good point posted.
Precisely my point but I also acknowledge that supporters here who do not like Jose doesn’t mean they do not support the club. Everyone thinks differently since we all come from different background and culture.
That is why this is the best site in the world for me and managed by a team of great Eds. You get to know people and read their comments. Best still we are biggest club in the world 😉.

15 Apr 2018 08:48:30
Welcome to the mad house UA! Trust me once you start posting you will be hooked to this site 😂.

15 Apr 2018 10:17:00
Agree Park. Speaking from experience? 🤣🤣.

15 Apr 2018 10:42:15
I like Poch. His teams play good football and he seems to get the best out of them, 2 key requirements for me where Jose is currently falling short. However, he hasn’t won anything and until he does he will just be another manager with potential.

15 Apr 2018 10:52:37
Welcome mate 😁.

15 Apr 2018 11:24:25
Haha 666 Absolutely i'm addicted to this site 😂. The missus thinks I spend too much time on my phone and thinks I’m up to no good. When I told her about this site she thought i was really sad 😂. My first love will always be Manchester United I’m afraid.

AJH I agree I’m a fan of Poch and spurs on song are a joy to watch. But for the first time yesterday I questioned whether he has what it takes to make the step up. On paper spurs have a very strong first 11 with very few weaknesses. And with the way they press, I would have thought they would do what Liverpool did to city. But they were shocking yesterday, albeit city were very good. I thought Davidson Sanchez was shocking and losing Alderweireld will be a huge loss if he goes, which looks very likely.

Poch for me needs to win the FA Cup. So do this spurs team because they are becoming the nearly men too often. Only putting ‘pressure’ on isn’t really good enough. I would like Poch at united and I think he would be a great fit. But perhaps not at the moment. He has shown tactical naivety against the big sides far too often for me, especially away from home. But no doubt Poch has done a good job at spurs, but it’s time for them to win something otherwise they will start to lose key players.

15 Apr 2018 11:46:41
Just to add my two pence worth. I think the reason Spurs never quite seem to realise their potential is Daniel Levy. Everyone knows he's tight as a ducks backside with wages and transfers which is admirable in a way but second tier money will only create a second tier team which is why the best players will always want to move on and why they'll never reach the top.

15 Apr 2018 12:09:06
Great point TopBomin. Levy really is a very shrewd businessman and is running spurs very well. It is admirable but when a player can double his wages at a city or united, and still be a relatively low earner in comparison to the top earners at these clubs, then it’s no wonder players heads are being turned. Spurs’ players must look at the likes of Ashley young and think I’m better than them and yet they earn more than me. Whether we like it or not football is a business and in any industry if you can get an increase of salary at a competitor then 9/ 10 you would move. I read that levy earns more than Kane per year. Not sure if it is true and please correct me if I’m wrong eds. I suppose there is two ways at looking at it. One way is that levy runs the club and has done a very good job so deserves it. But the other is that the start striker, who the fans adore and idolise, deserves to be the highest paid person at the club. I do think if spurs don’t change their playment structure then we will see the big players leave.

15 Apr 2018 12:13:14
I hear you guys and appreciate the comments.

But what good is the fancy football if there is no output? Livepool play the same way and have actually reached the semis of a major tournament so there you can actually take cognizance. Spurs have bottled it far too often for my liking. In a way they are the South Africa of football, "the chokers".

Yes their wage structure is a bit stringent but all their top players are still intact. They have the best striker in the league, goal keeper is top notch. Dembele is awesone, Eriksen is second to only De Bruyne. We would take their wingers in the blink of an eye and to top it all these guys have now been together for 3-4 years now. So they are a settled squad and should now be delivering. Some if not all the blame has to be at the managers doorstep.

I think Poch will get the job at Real once Zidane goes and then he might win something because only two teams play.

15 Apr 2018 13:16:24
And then we poach Poch once he has a medal around his neck.

15 Apr 2018 15:22:25
Could Jose take United to the next level with the same budget and wages as spurs

Could poch take spurs to the next level with the same budget and wages as United.

 


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