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08 Nov 2018 17:21:42
Ed002 do you know if last nights result will delay zidans appointment as our manager further? 😂.

{Ed002's Note - I thought it was already nailed on.}

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08 Nov 2018 18:10:05
Yeh its definitely happening, lose on the weekend and he's gone. Also; Earth is flat and Queens a lizard! 😂😂😂.

08 Nov 2018 20:28:12
I thought he already was our manager! That journalist said so!

08 Nov 2018 11:59:29
Well that was awesome.

Cried there credit is due - we rode our luck but who doesn't away at Juve. Jose hit his tactics and sins spot on, and Allegri invited us on them with his changes at 1-0.

Great win, fabulous result, and here's to confidence growing. Martial, Herrera, Lindelof and Young played very well last night.

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08 Nov 2018 16:23:38
At times we do look decent. A better, natural right back, a proper right winger, a more mobile version of matic and an experienced centre half would finish it.

08 Nov 2018 17:52:04
Spot on Mort totally agree with you pal.

08 Nov 2018 11:34:37
Alright fellas,

Been a few weeks. Great result last night, very good away performance in Europe last night. Got a few points over the last few weeks all based on players I've been very critical off.

Sanchez looks to be improving, especially down the middle. His link up play has been good, maybe worth considering him playing closer to lukaku against sides where we will dominate the ball?

Martial is showing his enormous potential, clinical in front of goal, beating men at will. What's really impressed me however is his willingness to dig in. In the first game with Juve, Cancelo got in quite a few times. Last night I can't recall his full back getting passed him. He was excellent in all aspects last night.

Finally, Lindelof has been absolutely fantastic last few weeks. More aggressive in the challenge and reading danger better. Countless clearances last night and a very important one when De Gea saved the deflected cross last night. Hopefully we get a good solid partner beside him and he will develop.

Let's take this form into Sunday and get another positive result!


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08 Nov 2018 13:27:54
I've not been impressed with Sanchez but over the past two games he's shown great energy and he is creating space for our other forward players to play in.

08 Nov 2018 14:45:10
What a fantastic if unexpected result.

I was very impressed by Sanchez, his movement was good, his first touch assured, he allowed us to keep possession, build up attacks and he also pressed well from the front. He forced us to play football for a change and we didn't see as many aimless long balls needlessly surrendering possession which often happens with Lukaku up front.

Herrera brought bite and energy to the midfield. He was mobile, tenacious, worked tirelessly and provided some much needed legs around Matic.

Unfortunately Pogba was poor for the most part. He can be so wasteful at times and I'd just like him to keep things simple until he enters the final third. On the other hand I love the fact that he never hides, even when he's playing badly he always wants the ball. We simply can't deny his quality and in moments he's still capable of great skill and he played a part in both goals! Even when he plays badly he can still impact the game and my frustration is he is capable of so much more.

Martial has been lauded and whilst I think he was decent he also played in bursts like Pogba. He was ok defensively but I'd still like to see him press more aggressively without the ball. I think he can close down and press much quicker and his movement off the ball can be more intelligent. There is no doubting his quality with the ball at his feet however and all our best moments came through him. He is fast becoming one of our most important and influential players. He can still improve but his potential is frightening.

I thought Lingard's movement and pressing was excellent. He linked and interchanged dangerously with Sanchez, Martial and Pogba at times however his end product was missing. Perhaps this is understandable as he hasn't played much football recently but he injected much needed energy and intensity to the team which was lacking in the first game.

Moving forward we still lack mobility in midfield where I thought Pogba and Matic were too easily bypassed especially in the second half. We afforded them too much time and space on the ball again especially around the edge of our own box where we were slow to get out and close down. I'm not convinced Fred is the answer but we probably need some more mobility and energy instead of Matic. Maybe it's time to give Fred a chance alongside Herrera and give Matic a much needed rest.

Our improvement last night must be because we had more mobility, fluidity and intensity to our play and we pressed more aggressively. Sanchez dropping deep upset their defence and forced them to decide if they followed him dragging themselves out of position or let him turn with time on the ball. We had willing runners in Martial, Lingard and Pogba and we actually looked like a football team rather than static, rigid statues for a change. This must be the blue print moving forward if we want to be taken seriously again. The likes of Lukaku, Fellaini and Matic all still have an important role in the squad but our football must be faster and more fluid if we want to challenge the best at home and abroad.

Looking forward to the weekend I don't expect too many changes. If we are still in the game with 15-20 minutes to go then Maybe Fellaini can have a similar impact breaking into the box and being a threat from set pieces. I don't mind direct football, it can be an effective tactic but we should always strive to play football first. After last night we must believe anything is possible!

08 Nov 2018 15:04:38
Thought Sanchez was brilliant. We look far better with him pressing from the front. Like DLIB mentioned, he forces us to play a bit more because we don’t have the option of playing it long to to Lukaku. The front 3 looks for fluid and he created space for the other attackers with his movement. Sanchez is at his best collecting the ball and using his agility and ball control in tight areas. I hope Jose continues with him up front as he builds his confidence. The goals will come as the understanding with those around him and his confidence improves.

08 Nov 2018 16:40:01
Good posts. Hopefully we've turned a corner and he sticks with this set up. A few tweaks needed but its progress.

08 Nov 2018 09:09:13
Well done to the lads. Its just something about Turin! Just like United of old. Must say the swuad has looked a lot more together over the past few weeks. A big fist up from Mourinho to the media by bringing the team together. Looks like he hasn't lost the dressing room and certainly won't be getting the sack on Friday 6 weeks ago 😂😂. Great job by the guys who gave it their all.

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08 Nov 2018 08:45:26
I fancied us yesterday, put a little bit of dough on us as well so it was nice to win on both counts.

Thought we were too negative at times and we were lucky to be honest. Juventus were unusually wasteful in front of goal. Been watching a lot of Juve this season and they have been winning but not looking as good as the table suggests - however it had a David vs Goliath feel about it which is absolutely ridiculous when you take a step back.

Herrera was very good. I don't like Young playing as everything is delayed, Pogba gave it away more than he kept the ball. I thought Sanchez worked hard and looked a lot sharper. Obviously it's hard to take the game to Juventus away and we snuck it yesterday. Jose is getting a nice run of luck at the moment and you make your own luck I suppose, we were unlucky to drop 2 points to Chelsea as well so swings-roundabouts.

Hopefully we start the game on the front foot this Sunday and don't give City as many opportunities as I fear they will put us out of sight if we aren't better defensively.

Great result, hopefully we can have a bit of a mini-clear out this winter and bring in 1-2 quality players. The wholesale changes in the summer as too many of our players will never be good enough for the very top.

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08 Nov 2018 09:37:28
Was the purpose of this post to tell us you won money? I see no other point to it? At least Pogba attempts to make the killer pass, or the pass that makes the difference. You contradict yourself too much here, I honestly don't know whether your pleased or gutted.

08 Nov 2018 09:39:18
You must be a very lucky gambler Beast. Despite your extreme negativity towards United, you are still committed enough to place money on us to win. Furthermore, every time you bet on us we seem to win! At least you get some enjoyment from United.

Keep up the good work mate :)

08 Nov 2018 12:55:33
Careful Beast. You're in danger of sounding a bit positive there and that's not the Beast we've all come to know and love.

In fairness, just lately we've looked like the United of old ie., You can score against us but we'll score more.

Long may it last.

08 Nov 2018 13:18:27
Beast your a gas man.
A clearout?
A month ago you said that you would not interview a manager that wanted to talk about squad changes and investment.
Whats changed your mind on that?

In terms of recent cl performances last 5 years it was david v ggollaith. We havnt been qualifing and they have been in finals so on current recent form we were massive underdogs reflected in the odds toy recieved i'm sure for a 2 horse race.
Perhaps not so much in total history but in last 5 years i think it was a shock result. They don't lose often there i tjink that is there 1st cl defeat there.

08 Nov 2018 13:41:19
King Giggsy - partly about me expecting us to win and not buying into the David Goliath BS to justify defeat if it occurred. Also my views on several players performance - did you miss that part?

Betty - When the odds are that good you have to take the punt, although I have lost as much as I have won betting on Utd this season. I won't be betting on us this weekend though.

TopBomin - Yeah there are some good signs, Jose did well last night - game was perfect for vintage Jose where we were 'allowed' to camp and break. Same again against City, but it's the mid-level and below teams where this is horrible to watch and shouldn't be tolerated. It shouldn't really be tolerated now, but we are where we are.

08 Nov 2018 14:41:05
Great result last night. However, were you lot watching the game? Juve should have been out of sight. We were LUCKY!
Shades of the 1999 final.
We are no where near as good a team as Juve. Or City come to that. Let's hope for more luck on Sunday!

08 Nov 2018 14:50:04
Ken - The manager still needs to go, he is not getting the most from his players, but people like Matic, Lukaku, Young, Pogba, Smalling, Mata - do not champions make.

It doesn't have to be one or the other, there are grey zones.

Juventus had Khadeira, two old knackers at the back, Betancur, Cuadrado, Sczezny in goal. The only genuine class in that team was Ronaldo, Dybala, Pjanic, Sandro.

We need a clear-out top to bottom. Half measures are what got us into this position. No point allowing Jose to buy the new team because he is no longer suitable for that role and his signings are all over the place. New manager, new ideas, new identity required.

However a new manager should come in and say he can turn this bunch into contenders, then I'd back him. We should be doing much better than we are with the team we have, despite them not being brilliant in most cases. You can;t have a team of superstars but our superstars are seriously underperforming (aside from DDG and Martial recently) .

08 Nov 2018 17:10:10
Beast young smalling matic mata and pogba have all been champions for the record. Smalling and young were not playing much i grant you that but they have the medals.
But i do agree with you. We need a huge clear out but i'm just wondering why you said you would throw a candidate out of an interview if he said he needed new players. Mayberry its so obvious we need some. Maybe you were just ranting that day we are all guilty from time to time.

Also if you think the squad is so poor and i agree why do you blame so much on the manager? Imo no other manager would have got us 2nd last season

Do you think any other manager would have got this squad to 2nd behind city last season?

08 Nov 2018 18:06:19
Ken - I knew you would go there. But they were not the key to any team, they were periphery players for their title winning teams in the main. They are all good players, but not suitable for a Man Utd I'd like to see personally.

The teams they won the league with had world class (reliably world class) around them. Our best players are not performing anywhere near their maximum and that is the manager job, that is why he needs to go (amongst other reasons) .

We have too many decent but not great players for sure, but we should be playing better. I have been ranting and do go off on one occasionally, hard to get it down properly so I'll hold my hands up mate.

2nd means nothing really, it was a poor campaign despite finishing 2nd, football was appalling and it has been for most of this season. We do not look like champions, after 2.5 years in charge I'd expect us to be on the right track, not looking just as disjointed as his first season with Liverpool, City and Chelsea (after a few months under Sarri) looking far more formidable.

If you are asking me if Jose is the 2nd best manager in the world, I say no, he is not in the top 10, maybe 20 anymore. He was great, but now he is a spent force. So I think many other managers would have us do just as well and probably better last season, but I don't think anybody would have caught City last year - we just could have looked a lot better going for it under somebody that plays the game the right way and isn't such a problem off the pitch.

08 Nov 2018 19:46:02
Beast mate i think he will leave in the summer no matter what happens i agree with some of your thoughts but not many.
But i posted above i think he now has control of his dressing room. Players are responding and the increased effort is obvious. Big egos have been dropped until they put in the required effort.
But also the board have regained control over jose and the change in him is obvious too.
He is being more tolerant with the players because they are giving him more and as a result their form and attitudes are showing definite improvement.
Jose is far from finished. I think he may well end up in madrid next season just a feeling i have.
We are woefully short of top quality still in 3 or 4 positions.
Were we right not to buy aging players at inflated money. Yes imo.
I want to see a united effort from the coach players fans and board alike until the end of the season. This will be a really tight fight for the top 2nd to 4th, i think city will run away with it in the end. Its essential tjat we secure top 4 Then if jose goes and we get a new coach we can build from a more solid base.

09 Nov 2018 05:21:03
Beast, please put in those 20 names above Mourinho here for all of our knowledge. We would surely be enlightened and i am sure the United board would consider your list for better recruitment next. Kindly share the list.

Review Of The Day 8th November 2018

08 Nov 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 8th November 2018

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07 Nov 2018 23:57:37
"You should ask the FA to translate".


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08 Nov 2018 01:18:14
He is very quick witted and funny at times but he really does himself no favours at other times. While we are winning games like that and playing the football we are at the moment he can do what he wants though.

08 Nov 2018 08:40:57
I don't like him, but if you won't pursue allegations of financial fraud on pl but want to appeal against something some said after you lost the case, you deserve to be mocked and ridiculed.

07 Nov 2018 22:22:53
Have to say, really well done. Luck doesn't really come into it. This is what you do, unfortunately. Respect.

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07 Nov 2018 22:33:30
Good on you mate. Respect.

07 Nov 2018 23:58:36
Fair play emlyn.

07 Nov 2018 22:22:38
Well talk about smash and grab, what a game! Didn't think we deserved to win but who cares. Tactically I think this was one of our best games this season. There was times where we didn't close them down quick enough but overall defence were solid, only outdone by a ronaldo special. Martial again was sublime, especially in the last 20 mins or so the way he interconnected with pogba and shaw and rashford should've really ended it at the end. Not a smalling fan by any means but he did well today. Lindelof again was great. Say what you want about mourinho but I loved the hand to the ear at the end. He has been getting so much criticism with people saying he's finished, but he showed today tactically he's one of the best. Mata and fellainj, perfect subs. Immense team effort, let's keep this up against city!

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08 Nov 2018 00:06:42
The set up was right.
Game management was right.
Substitutions were right.

Players gave their all.
Concentration levels were high, we looked switched on the whole game.

Martial done exactly the job Jose asked of him defensively and was standout offensively.

Mata yet again Kickstarter the comeback with some magic. I love that little Spaniard.

Juve had enough chances to win the match, Cuadrado should have scored.
However what resilience from this team yet again.
I think that 5 times we've gone behind in the last 5 or 6 matches and we haven't lost 1 of them. This team is playing for the manager. No question.

And the reds go marching on.

08 Nov 2018 08:41:53
Good result but we seriously can't be playing static against city they will eat him alive with their pressing.

07 Nov 2018 22:04:29
Wow. What a result. Was not pretty but we showed great character in the end. The substitutions were great from Jose but poor from allegri. Bringing on barzagli allowed us to trouble the defence. I am absolutely buzzing. I don’t care if it was lucky. To go away to this unbeaten Juve side and steal it like that is incredible.

Thought martial’s workrate was fantastic and Herrera must start every game. Pogba was poor and must keep it simple when we are near our goal otherwise we will get punished. We have put together a really good run. This weekend is the big test. City are the best team around for me at the moment. Beat them and what a turn around by the players and Jose. The style still isn’t great, but the spirit and character the team are showing to score late goals and complete these comebacks is phenomenal.

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07 Nov 2018 22:28:15
Martial worked his sox off again. Young was good and give a much Beyer balance than valencia.
Matic was good as was herrera.
Good shift by a team playing for their fans their shirt and their manager.
Effort goes a long way and even though some play was poor we stuck at it.

07 Nov 2018 22:35:35
Fellaini's presence when he came on moving up and down the middle between a number 8 and up front as a number 9 made a big difference in the game in the final third.
Like when he played upfront for Everton. He was a headache for Juve.
There was some good build up play for a lot of the game too.

07 Nov 2018 23:14:51
Makes you wonder, if we can get to Jan in a solid position, what we can achieve if we get in a cb and possibly a right forward.


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