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14 Oct 2017 11:43:26
Big players out:

Bailly
Pogba
Fellaini
Rashford

We are forced to play a different way now.

{Ed025's Note - your not looking for excuses already are you sydney?, all teams have injuries mate you just have to get on with it, rashford cant be that injured if hes on the bench and mane is a massive loss to liverpool..

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14 Oct 2017 12:01:35
No excuses, it's more about the shock loss of Bailly that's bothered me slightly. Smalling or Bailly? We already knew Fellaini, Pogba, Rojo, Shaw and Ibra are out, but I wanted to see Bailly in that defence and Rashford in place of Young. Rashford replacing Mata would have been much more worrying for Liverpool than Young. If Rash was 100% he'd be playing ahead of Young.

14 Oct 2017 12:17:45
I think you under estimate how much faith Jose has in young to do his job.

Could be 5 3 2 with that line up, can switch quite easily.

14 Oct 2017 12:22:19
I'm expecting a 532 mate. Lukaku, Miki and Martial to counter with Herrera and Matic protecting. What I do know is this has been worked on at length according to Matic. We have a game plan and we now have to implement it.

14 Oct 2017 13:50:36
As I said, everyone was talking about this match as if it's an easy 3 pointer. We can see the opposite is true. We're not as good as we think we are and they're not as bad as some posters on here make them out.
If we walk out with a draw, I'll be delighted. Not likely though.

{Ed025's Note - i think its very likely mate..

14 Oct 2017 15:21:56
Ed025. We managed the draw but Liverpool were the only team likely to win.

{Ed025's Note - very much so mate..

14 Oct 2017 11:41:11
Really fancy us for the win today don't think / hope we will be as defensive as some think but do expect a disciplined performance .

Few injured today.

{Ed025's Note - disciplined performace = defend and try and catch them on the break jred, i think united are making a rod for their own back mate by inviting liverpool to attack them, its what they are best at..

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14 Oct 2017 11:56:07
Ed
They leave a lot of space down the channels and you can get at there cbs.
Would expect a solid performance but I hope we control the ball rather than sitting with 6 at the back which we saw a lot last season .
We should be able to control the ball then again it's Liverpool United form tends to go out the window .
Goals in both teams tho.

{Ed025's Note - i think utd could have made a statement of intent with a more attacking side jred, but i suppose we will see at the end mate..

14 Oct 2017 12:12:53
Ed025, In your opinion why is this a more attacking side? How could this be made any more defensive? I think this is as defensive as it can get.

{Ed025's Note - you read me wrong sydney, its a very defensive side mate which is a mistake against a side devoid of confidence like liverpool, i would have liked to have seen mata and rashford in the side myself..

14 Oct 2017 12:23:58
Oh sorry Ed025, yes it's a set up where when defending it's a parked double decker bus, when attacking it'll be like the red arrows. Hope the plan works. We'll see mate.

{Ed025's Note - we will sydney mate, i just hope its not an opportunity missed..

14 Oct 2017 12:42:05
Well at least it's not 6 at the back.

14 Oct 2017 13:53:02
Agree with ed025. Liverpool are good going forward and not great at defending. So it's not as easy as some are making out. Blinkers off please.

{Ed025's Note - its more chess than football this schmid..

Midfielders - Part 1

14 Oct 2017 08:55:17
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14 Oct 2017 11:00:51
A good read Ed001 thanks.

{Ed001's Note - cheers Tas, glad you enjoyed.}

Premier League Match Previews Saturday 14th October 2017

14 Oct 2017 04:44:59
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Premier League Match Previews Saturday 14th October 2017

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14 Oct 2017 08:03:04
Excellent preview Eds.
Obviously I only read the ManUtd vs Pool preview as this is the main game for this week. Point all well described Andy couldn’t put any better.
Interesting predictions from the Eds with varying degrees 😂😂. I however think ManUtd will edge 3 to Pool 1 though I’d love a 4-0 thumping of Pool.

{Ed001's Note - cheers 666.}

14 Oct 2017 08:37:06
Good write up as per Ed. Regarding the lunchtime game I feel Herrera and his energy will be needed against Liverpool’s usual energy in there. Did Ed2 forget his predictions this week? Wanted to know his Liverpool united predicted score. Ed1 doesn’t do predictions much like myself to superstitious.

{Ed001's Note - so long as he gets them in before kick off, I will post edit it to include them.}

14 Oct 2017 13:56:43
I think with optimism like this, some posters should be running the country. However, you can say it as many times as you want, but we're not going to win easily. I would love one poster to tell me why they think that this match is going to be 3-1 or 4-0 win to United. It's bonkers.

13 Oct 2017 17:39:09
I'm sorry but I'm not buying this "a draw is a good result" baloney. We have made a storming start and are playing a tea, with a dodgy defence. I know Jose is pragmatic but we need to get at them, they will be nervous as hell about our attacking threat and I would expect Lukaku and Rashford, or Martial, to have a grand old time.

I don't want a draw, I want a win and a statement that we are the real deal. Settling for a draw is a cop out.

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13 Oct 2017 17:48:02
Amen to that AJH. I have a feeling in my stomach that we will out a few passed them tomorrow.

13 Oct 2017 17:58:38
Exactly Mate we are better in all aspects at the moment than Liverpool, We need to take a game to them. Form doesn't matter in these kind of matches but this time around we are better and we must win. People keep talking about not being tested yet but Liverpool won against disorganized Arsenal and lost to City, I know they will argue about being a man down, its ok, but they are failing to beat teams which they should.

13 Oct 2017 18:03:06
I expect us to win too AJH. We have seen over the years this game does not always go with form. I think there are players in our squad who still have a lot to prove. But the good thing is i think they know that and they want to take this chance to proove themselves. I expect high energy all action displays from everybody. And within all the hype and frantic nature of this game our attacking players must remain calm and make the most of whatever chances come their way.
This is an opporrunity to put 10 points between us and to keep the presure on city spurs and chelsea. A win at anfield will be a marker to them.
Keep the crowd quiet give them no encouragement.

13 Oct 2017 19:26:13
I don’t think we should play for a draw and don’t want us to draw but I don’t think either team would be disappointed with a draw at the moment, it would be a better result for us than for them though.

13 Oct 2017 19:39:27
I wouldn't take a draw, but I do expect Liverpool to play exceptionally well tomorrow. They love playing against the big teams.

13 Oct 2017 23:54:05
We don't want to settle for a draw. No United team should. But I don't think people are giving Liverpool enough credit. They'll be up for it and we'll do well to get a draw. We've had a good start but Stoke showed we're not the finished article. The atmosphere at anfield will be hostile and they'll be aware that if they lose then effectively their season is over. I think a draw will be a good result.

14 Oct 2017 07:50:52
I think we all respect Gary Neville as a good pundit. And even he thinks we'll struggle. The misplaced confidence on here is bordering on the ridiculous. Liverpool are no pushover. I can bet that mourinho recognises this and will be very cautious with his tactics and rightly so.
If pogba and Fellaini (can't believe I'm saying this! ) Were fit, then we would have stood a better chance.
A win will be an amazing result but a draw or even a Liverpool win will be more likely.

13 Oct 2017 13:15:34
Liverpool fan coming here just to wonder your predictions for tomorrow? I love this fixture but at the same time it's the most nerve wracking one.

I'm thinking it's going to be a draw, of course I hope we'll win but I'll go with a 2-2 draw, which to be honest I wouldn't moan about that.

I'm not just a Liverpool fan but a football fan and games like this are reasons why I love the game, I can't think of another fixture more exciting then this one!

Anyway have fun tomorrow to all, whatever will be, will be. :)

{Ed007's Note - Utd to win 4-2.}

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13 Oct 2017 13:32:42
I'm going with 3-1 to United. I just think we are in better form. Without Mane your front line looks significantly less dynamic. Add to that Coutinho and Firminho will have travelled back from Brazil less than 48 hours before the fixture. Salah could be a bit or a miss, depending on world cup qualification hangover. Add to that Liverpool's biggest weakness is set pieces and that has been a strength of ours this season I think we will win it. But with this fixture you can never tell.

13 Oct 2017 14:49:05
2-0 United, Liverpool won't get past de gea. herrera will track couthino.
And matic will control the middle and lukkaku will score.

13 Oct 2017 14:59:22
2-1 united. Coutinho to score first. United comeback because Liverpool will tire after 60 mins.

13 Oct 2017 15:18:18
Love to have another 4-0 Man Utd win but realistically that will not happen 😂
However I’d be happy with a win whatever the margin is.
I foresee a slow 1st half with Man Utd scoring and winning the game in 2nd half.

13 Oct 2017 16:27:49
A cheeky 5-0 to United!
Called it 🙌.

13 Oct 2017 16:32:51
Just a United win is all I want, don't care how or what score.

13 Oct 2017 16:40:05
2-0 Jose special .

13 Oct 2017 17:00:43
Im hoping for united win og course but i think it'll be a boring draw. Not a bad result if we can get a point.
We will miss Pogba and Fellaini mote than they'll miss Mane.

13 Oct 2017 17:50:20
3-1 for me. Counter attacking showcase tomorrow IMO. I cannot see them being able to cope with out attacking line and with mane out I believe that they will not possess the capability to really hurt us.

13 Oct 2017 18:21:16
Love the optimism, however we are at anfailed and they will raise their game a lot against us. I would love to give them a spanking, but see either a 1-1 or the Scousers to sneak a 2-1 win with a dodgy penalty.

13 Oct 2017 19:31:22
I think jm is more pragmatic and won't see nil nil as the worst result in the scheme of things at the end of the season . Hope other posters are correct and we are to much for them.

13 Oct 2017 19:40:19
I can of course only hope the majority of you are wrong lol to be honest with games like this, no result would surprise me. We always seem to step it up a notch when against top teams, we're at Anfield, so we should have the advantage, but we're missing Mane this to me is my biggest worry as I think he's arguably one of our best players. Without Mane it's about as brutal for us as you guys without Pogba and Fellaini.

Having said the above, your form this season so far has been nothing short of excellent, some say you haven't been 'tested' yet. To this I would disagree, every game in the Premier League is a test, we know that first hand.

I just hope your form dips tomorrow :) Thanks for the reply's.

13 Oct 2017 09:18:36
So the excitement or is that nerves are starting to jangle, the fixture of any season, always love but hate this fixture at the same time and certainly will define fans mood for the forseeable.
Liverpool probably need the win more than us but wouldn't it be great to go 10 clear already or them.
United I expect to be cautious, especially first 25 mins but offer a threat on the counter attack.
Mane out, Couts and Firmino travelled to and from Brazil, Pogba obvs out, Fellaini who has proved a key player for us out, I think that will be a big blow for us actually.
A draw will be viewed a good result of course, but looking at City's next 2 games Stoke (h) Burnley (h) and us having Chelsea and Spurs upcoming i'd like us to have a go at that Liverpool defence, we shall see but one thing I know is it'll be an unbearable day with some of my scouse supporting mates it we lose.

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13 Oct 2017 09:28:05
I agree with everything there WRD. I believe we will be cautious starting off. I think we will be looking to hit them on the counter and open the scoring. As the game goes on it will open up and I think Liverpool will become more stretched.

Although it's a type of one off game where form goes out the window, I really believe we will put at least 2 past them tomorrow and could really punish them. I cannot see how they will be able to handle us going forward, their defence and resolve looks very shaky at the moment and we could put a few past them.

I just hope our defence stays solid and doesn't make any mistakes.

13 Oct 2017 10:55:43
Im with you guys. This is my favourite fixture of any season. The game i always most want us to win and never to lose. Great rivalry and i have great respect for their history and records if i had my way liverpool would be 2nd in every competition every year because if there is one thing better than liverpool losing its liveroool nearly winning then losing😂😂
That aside i think tomorrow is a huge game for both sides and could possibly be the spring board for the winners to really kick on for the next few matches. If we win and i do expect us to then we go 10 points clear of them. We then make all those people that say we haven't been tested take notice. It will top up the squads confidence and give us real mental strength going into the spurs and chelsea matches coming up.
If liverpool win they will come out of the slump be banging their hairy german chests and win a few games until their next inevitable mini slump. A draw would not be a bad result for either side.
I suspect that jose may go with 3 at the back.
Id prefer 4 and the set up that's been working but jose while i'm sure he believes we can win will approach it as a must not lose game firstly.
For me its all about couthino stop he and to a lesser extent salah then that's the attack nullified. Herrera may be asked to do a job on couts like he did on hazard before.
Their defence is poor particularly on the left so i expect toni v to exploit that and for either rash or martial to torment gomez or TAA.
Matic has to be at his aggresive best closing down spaces and tracking runners and i think lukaku will be like a beast tomorrow to show the world he can do it on the big occasion running channels closing down hold the ball up well and getting on the end of chances, his work rate tomoorow will show us if he is the real deal and wants to be the best.
Miki not traditionally great in the fastest paced games. The harum scarum games have not been his best. But he is playing with great confidence he will want to deliver tomorrow to prove that he can operate when everything is 100mph.
I can't wait.
Herrera and bailly need to show cool heads. Both can get a bit excitable at times. Tomorrow is about keeping cool heads under the most extreme pressure. Keep the crowd quiet for 1st 20 mins give them no encouragement.
Lose and its a crap weekend win and its like a bank holiday weekend.
All i want is for tbe players tomorrow to do themselves justice to give their all in every minute and to walk off the pitch with their heads held high and lukaku to be carring the match ball after his hat trick.

11 Oct 2017 21:07:42
So here we are at the end of a boring international week looking forward to seeing some EPL footy this weekend.

So I thought to mix things up I'd ask which three signings do you expect us to make by next season?

I'll go with Greizmann, Fabinho and Rose.

Who do you guys think?

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11 Oct 2017 21:35:27
Gacinovic is one to watch out for a young Serbian who has been recommended by matic, can play in midfield and on the right wing.
Jose was at the Serbian game against Austria watching him.

11 Oct 2017 21:49:28
Wouldn't argue with those three signings shappy. They would make us challengers for the champions league. Seems to me that Jose saw Fabinho more as a right back than a defensive midfielder. Brilliant player who can half take a penalty as well.

Personally a massive fan of griezmann in the the bracket of top top players under Ronaldo and messi. If there was even a shred of a chance we could get dybala then he would be my dream signing. Danny rose looks a real possibility if you read what the tabloids are saying. Quality player who would dramatically change our attack and add a new dynamism to the team. I do fear that his injury record is poor though. Wouldn't mind David alaba who looks a bit disinterested at Bayern and could be looking for a new challenge.

11 Oct 2017 22:51:43
Shappy i would be delighted with those signings.
Fabhino oozes quality and can play rb and cdm to a very high level.
Rose is somewhat of a risk. Art his best he is the best lb in the epl imo. But he has not played for 9 months and has a poor injury record overall. As i said say his best he is miles better than what we currently have in that position.
Greizman is the player with the potential to bring the team to the next level. He will replace ibra in the squad next season if he comes i'm sure. If we continue with our current shape what position gets the best out of greizman and miki?
Lots to ponder i see those players as great options to strengthen areas where the depth is weak all 3 would improve the squad imo.
3 potential free transfers (if there is such a thing) in the summer of ozil sanchez and cann are 3 great potential signings for our squad too. Although sanchez is probably city or psg bound. Cann is probably juve bound and i suspect ozil will end up in Germany at bayern.

12 Oct 2017 02:40:50
Mine would be Fabinho (RB), Sergej Milinkovic Savic (CM) and Greizmann (RAM) (I prefer Dybala, but it seems difficult to get him)

12 Oct 2017 07:15:38
Milinkovic is very highly thought of and sought after. I've seen ed002 sing his praises recently.
Defo a jose type midfield player also.

{Ed001's Note - he was in my list of best central midfielders as well. Real quality that lad.}

12 Oct 2017 09:19:46
I did ask recently on Serie A soccer page about him ( Sergej Milinkovic), big clubs are intrested per Ed002 and Manutd is one of them if he is available.

{Ed001's Note - they were one of many interested parties in the summer just gone as well.}

12 Oct 2017 09:55:51
fabinho, milinkovic would be great but I will take a rain check on greizman: NOT because of his ability but I don't think it will happen.
Not sure on rose personally, but Tierney and think we will get a winger who is not widely mentioned as of yet -similar to the martial situation.
in the summer I can see a few outgoings if not sooner shaw, herrera (dont shoot me) and carrick to be let go possibly a cb - smalling?

12 Oct 2017 09:56:21
He did sign a new contract. Do you see him moving any time soon Ed001?

{Ed001's Note - not if Lazio have anything to do with it, no. Right now he seems happy and they are certainly happy with him. A long way to go before the summer though and a lot can change.}

12 Oct 2017 10:07:40
Thanks Ed, He seems happy there, its perfect place for his development of which seems to be a bright career.

{Ed001's Note - it does seem to be a good match for now. I can't see him staying there in the long term though, he will want to challenge for the Champions League in the future, I would expect.}

12 Oct 2017 10:23:37
Its good for now as you say Ed, surely he will play at top club if he keeps working hard as he is real good footballer with everything needed to play at top level.

{Ed001's Note - Lazio would like to be one of the top clubs, but I really cannot see that happening personally.}

12 Oct 2017 10:26:34
I must admit Milinkovic Savic looks a bit special every time I see him. In theory I would love to see us sign him. My concern would be where would we play him?

Currently we have last season's player of the season Ander Herrera unable to get into the team when everyone is fit as Matic and Pogba are clearly first choice.
Obviously next season with the departure of Carrick and possible departures of Fellaini and Herrera who's contracts are up we will need to add a midfielder or two. The issue with signing a young player with potential is they need to play to grow and develop.
How often would Milinkovic Savic play ahead of either Matic or Pogba?

We have seen both TFM and Pereira leave on loan this season to get game time. Clearly Milinkovic Savic is further along in his development and a better player, but how often is he going to knock a fully fit Pogba out of the line up?
Would he be happy to be a bit part player at our club for a couple of years at least?

Next summer we will I see us needing a couple of top class full backs and a creative wide player who chips in with 15 goals or so from out wide. Then we need strength and depth in midfield, but not really a first choice player.
For that reason I think Milinkovic Savic would be better off either sticking where he is or moving to a club where he will be first choice.

{Ed001's Note - it would be Mkhitaryan and Mata that would be worried for their place if Jose signed him Shaps. While I think Savic is better deeper, Jose apparently likes him further forward.}

12 Oct 2017 10:35:15
I don't see it myself, but at the moment they have very good squad with good players. Izanghi is doing great job out there.

12 Oct 2017 13:12:10
Aahh nice insight Ed001 i thought he was more of a deep lying midfielder but Jose must see something in him in terms of attacking attributes.

{Ed001's Note - I would say the same thing, he is very good defensively, but he is often used as an attacking mid by Lazio, so it is a position he is well versed in.}

12 Oct 2017 13:39:26
Thanks, I am going to watch a few lazio games to look through Mourinhos eyes.

He is a perfect Mourinho type player if he is good at attacking and like you said he is already very good defensively.

What happened to Felipe Anderson has he not progressed as much as one wouldve expected of him.

{Ed001's Note - he is very much a Jose player from what I have saw, he looks tall and strong compared to the opposing players.

I have to be honest, I have never seen anything in him to expect anything from him. Looks a very average player to me when I have watched him. I would have to assume that means he has not progressed, if a lot was expected of him.}

12 Oct 2017 14:23:35
Yeah i guess the same ed it is just part and parcel of the game that some make it to the top and some dont. Cheers ed have a good day.

{Ed001's Note - and you mate take care.}

Legends of Football Number 1: Rene Higuita

11 Oct 2017 18:33:08
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Legends of Football Number 1: Rene Higuita

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12 Oct 2017 07:23:47
001 that odds a great read. One of the best you have done. I would imagine you could have filled pages with stories about him. He is responsible for the way a lot of keepers and coaches look at and play the keeper game today. Mad as a box of frogs but a true legend of the game imo.
Great article. i'm sure your list is very extensive but if you get a chance and the data is available i think sir Stanley Mathews would be a good subject. A player that by all accounts was years ahead of his time and could still play today with his style I'd love to see an article like that on him. Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - thank you ken, glad you enjoyed that. You are right, the hardest part was what to leave out, there is enough material to write a full book on him. He was brilliant and a much better player than he is given credit for.

I have added Matthews to the list, that is a great shout. He was obsessive about physical fitness, in a way none of his contemporaries were, which is why he played into his 50s.}

12 Oct 2017 16:15:38
Have you considered maybe doing a book? Either full length on Higuita or maybe on a selection of players.

{Ed001's Note - yes mate, but then you have to get a publisher etc.}

12 Oct 2017 17:49:47
Cheers ed. Ill look forward to that one.

{Ed001's Note - glad to hear it mate. I look forward to learning more about these players while doing the research as well. I wish I had started doing these articles years ago now.}

12 Oct 2017 20:09:08
Could always self publish ed.

{Ed001's Note - true, I have thought about it, writing books is what I always wanted to do. You have a point, I will look into it.}

13 Oct 2017 16:50:09
Good stuff look forward to asking for them for future Christmases.

{Ed001's Note - I would be delighted if you did that.}

13 Oct 2017 18:25:53
Id read them. Got a nice football section on the shelf.

{Ed001's Note - I used to have hundreds of them, people would always buy me them for xmas and bdays, which was great.

11 Oct 2017 18:30:55
I am a welsh fan and always support wales best I can but god I hate international breaks, they are so boring, I would much rather club football and don't think I would be bothered if international footy was abolished, and these breaks we have seemingly every month, surely there is a better system that suits both domestic and national managers?

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