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17 Jun 2019 22:22:35
Ed002. Hope your still talking to me after we bashed your boys on saturday😂🍾🍾🍾
Do you know if mata has any offers he would like to pursue or do you think he will sign the contract offered by united.
Cheers.
Ps 8 2 doesn't tell the full story mk Scouser missed a lot of chances if i were you i'd give him a bosman🤩.

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure what happened on Saturday. I cannot answer if he will sign a contract but I think it likely. There was a proposal from Valencia.}

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18 Jun 2019 09:04:05
I know exactly what happened Saturday! If I close my eyes, I still have flashes of green and white running at me.
P. S Ken was a mile offside. He reminded me of Inzaghi in his prime!

18 Jun 2019 09:38:21
Mata is certainly a player who should be kept on the books for the time being. If Pogba has the attitude and grace of Juan Mata he could be the best midfielder in the league rather than a whiny sack of ****.

18 Jun 2019 01:13:27
i don't get how we go about our transfers


40 million bid gets rejected so we bid 35 million with 15 in ad ons.

is an extra 10 million on top of our first offer really that much its going to damage our finance.

so frustrating seeing the likes of Madrid and other teams get business done so quick and simple.


i understand its prob a difficult process but to bid less than first offered as an initial payment then add some extra money threw add ons when the whole world knows palace would accept 50 million straight up.


just pay the money and move on to other targets.

and before anyone says 50 million is a lot for a player of his age etc etc.

football has changed.

can see us wasting all window on trying to sign a rb, trying to tell pogba to stay and still end up with young playing right back.

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18 Jun 2019 04:47:37
I understand your frustration but paying 50 M for a 21 full back without European experience and essentially one good season of football will set the wrong precedent. I think going all out for AWB in terms of price will set the wrong precedent for the signings following that.

18 Jun 2019 06:18:10
Thats a valid point theCarnotCycle.

18 Jun 2019 07:23:40
You are taking what you see on Sky Sports as gospel.

Also I don’t get the Madrid fascination on here. We aren’t in the same competition as them, and there will always be other teams who sign players fast than any other club. Somebody has to.

James is done, it seems Bruno, AWB and a centre back are being worked on. Things seem to be moving at a good pace. It’s still June.

No point in guessing and making negative comments like we will be starting with Young at RB when we are clearly making an effort to bring in players.

Roll on August.

18 Jun 2019 01:24:27
Not technically united related - but stay with me -
I've just read a report (probably completely untrue but) apparently Barcelona are in advanced negotiations with PSG over neymar, allegedly offering €100m plus Dembele, Rakitic and Umtiti.

Either silly season is truly upon us, or transfer fees have officially gone mental! Although swapping Pogba for varane, Isco and asensio wouldn't be a bad shout ;)

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18 Jun 2019 07:10:56
Transfer fees went mental a long time ago mate. £36 million for Andy Carroll in 2011 confirmed that!

18 Jun 2019 09:49:16
Betty long before that Utd spend $4.5m on the blind Venetian. A substantial amount for a goalkeeper back in those days. Fees since 1990 have been a riot.

17 Jun 2019 23:11:27
Looking forward to the season ahead is there any sides outside last years top 6 that you think will push for a top 4 position?

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18 Jun 2019 00:39:55
Wolves could be in the mix unless they loose key players to bigger clubs.
Everton May push on also.
Newcastle could begin to threaten if the rumoured takeover and increased budget materialises and Benitez stays.

18 Jun 2019 06:02:06
Leicester.

18 Jun 2019 07:05:39
Wolves realistically. They gave each of the Top 6 some grief last season. They were poor against lower half teams but if they can improve that aspect they could be dangerous.
I think Chelsea will have a massive drop-off with Hazard so I can see them moving out of the Top 6 for this year.

18 Jun 2019 07:24:49
Agree with Leicester if they keep their team together and add some depth.

17 Jun 2019 17:40:12
Congrats to all the boys who participated in the charity match, wonderful cause. Was the match filmed by any chance? If so a highlight reel would be fantastic.

If not, I'd be happy to lend a hand next year filming. (Assuming there is one)

{Ed001's Note - the match was filmed but the footage is being held to ransom until half the fundraising goal is reached, so donate here please as it is for a good cause.}

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17 Jun 2019 15:08:11
Hello guys. With relatively few new signings to discuss I'd like to ask your opinion on the apparent club strategy on buying young British players.
It seems restrictive in a way but when you look at the great teams of the past decades, Barcelona had a nearly all Spanish team, Bayern same with German, United with British players and so on.

Fact is that these teams were able to pick the absolute best players of the young generation in their home country. Personally I would have been opposed to this a mere 3 years ago but with England currently having one of the best up and coming generation of young players in the world now might be a valuable time to look in the British market.

The players might be expensive but this is because the league is rich, and we are capable. Aaron Wan bissaka would be a great signing, whilst Sancho would be possible in the coming seasons. Maddison is also very promising, whilst James and Maybe Longstaff (lol) show we are increasing our willingness to take risks ( though should be seen as squad players for now) .

Sprinkle in some world class players in there and we got ourselves a good team. Would be also good for the national team imo.

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17 Jun 2019 15:19:03
As an English Manchester United fan I welcome us signing English prospects. We could potentially build a team which other clubs in the Prem will be jealous of.

As long as we don't shy away from the top talents in the other leagues then I am happy for it.

It's worrying to see the lack of English / British signings in recent years from what it supposed to be the biggest club in England.

17 Jun 2019 15:51:08
I wouldn't personally get too hung up where a player is from or what league we get them from .
United had great success with a team of young English lads but there's also plenty of signings of promising English players that hasn't went so well Jones, smalling, young, maybe Shaw . City have been pretty dominant and of what I'd say was there first eleven last season probably 9 were from foreign leagues although they had some squad players also . I don't think nationality or what league there from is the greatest guarantee of success or failure .
If we believe a young English player is the best option available that's fine and of course we should pursue it but because they are the best option available and not just because they are English or play in the English league .
Only if there's a quota issue would I give it any relevance . Ability to settle and overcome obstacles need researching as best as possible but all things being equal ability should trump nationality .

17 Jun 2019 19:08:31
I think a core of Young British players is the way to go. We need a group of players who want to be at the club and don't want to be chasing moves to Spain after 2-3 years at the club.

I don't think nationality makes a huge difference to the quality of a player, but British players will certainly find it easier to settle in the Manchester area and be happy to stay there long term.

I would love it if we could bring in players such as Maddison, Sancho, Rice, AWB and Tierney over the next couple of windows. Add them to Shaw, Smalling, Lingard, McTominay, James and Rashford in the first team along with Henderson, Tuanzebe, Garner, Gomes and Greenwood coming through. That would give us potentially 16 British players in the first team squad.

Add great European talent such as Dalot, Bruno Fernandes, Dias, Milenkovic, Diop etc and we will have a great side.

18 Jun 2019 00:52:20
It’s possible that this strategy stems from OGS comments about workrate. He has consistently said that Man Utd players should always outwork the opposition.
This is traditionally a trait of British players. I’m not saying the stereotype is 100% true but it is probably easier for British players born into the ‘workrate’ system to succeed in a team playing that way. That would make it sensible to look for players who fit this need. Add to that the quota and this issue of players aspiring to play for Barcelona and Real Madrid.

Another consideration is that in doing so we take these young British talents from our opposition.
I think it’s a good aim, as long as we keep an eye out for those outstanding foreign players as we have traditionally done.

The ‘Galactico’ signings strategy has not worked for United unless it involves buying the best PL talent from opposition teams. This is becoming harder with PL teams getting richer, as we have seen.

17 Jun 2019 14:30:54
This summer I really don't want to see any massive signings

I don't want any players above 50 million.

I want these players to come in with not the big price tag pressure and just get on with playing.

If we didn't sign anyone and played the kids and got rid off the rest over next 2 transfer windows then so be it.

Its about time the club looked after itself and stopped falling for the mercenaries in football.

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17 Jun 2019 15:01:42
The moment United is interested in a player the price goes up, hope we sign some gems but players like AWB, Bruno, Youri won't come for cheap.

Also i am really surprised that Ruben Neves is not a name that i see in any transfer saga.

17 Jun 2019
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Manchester United Player Sightings page entitled, Paul Pogba average player

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17 Jun 2019 14:40:28
Nobody is disputing that the lad has immense talent. When he is in the mood he is suberb, but that is not nearly consistent enough. Plus he comes with baggage and he doesn't want to play for us.

As well there seems to be a clique with him at the helm being quite poisonous to the team. The superstar player his PR team have concocted isn't the true representation of him. The money we would receive for him could go a long way if we invested wisely.

I was more upset when we initially lost him to Juventus the first time around then I will be when he leaves this summer.

17 Jun 2019 14:50:19
When Nani was in the mood he was also superb.

17 Jun 2019 15:32:46
Unpopular opinion: Christian Eriksen would have out-performed Pogba had he been in our side.

Take away the penalties and the goals dry up.
He takes people on and then turns around to do it again, then loses the ball.
Do we have stats on passes straight to an opposition player?

He could be a great, but he's not interested. If PP had Cristiano's work ethic he would be truly phenomenal and we'd have the best CM in the world.

I think most people's problem, at least mine is, is his attitude, behaviour and inconsistency.

17 Jun 2019 16:49:28
Its the way he says "I've had my greatest season ever" when the teams just finished where it has. Sure lots of mitigating factors but if he'd spent less time disrupting things and agitating maybe he'd have been even better.

17 Jun 2019 21:55:16
I would personally like to see his stats against the stats of other top EPL midfielders like

B. Silva
I. Gueye
Fernandinho
G. Winajldum
R. Neves
J. Maddison

Will their stats dwarf his?

18 Jun 2019 06:35:51
The squad as a whole had a poor season.
Players like Sanchez, Jessie, Martial were horrendous towards the end of the season.
These are the guys paid to put the ball behind the net and create chances.
Rom and Rash were too inconsistent.
Mistakes from De Gea, managerial change, injuries derailed our season.
A season to forget.

17 Jun 2019 12:59:12
So the club are feeding to the media that they are ending their supposed strategy of bring superstars into the club.

Fellaini, mata, blind, rojo, di maria, falcao, shaw, herrera, schneiderin, bastian, darmian, depay, martial, zlatan, pogba, micky, bailly, lindelof, lukaku, matic, sanchez, fred, dalot and lee grant.

Apart from di maria, zlatan, falcao, pogba and lee grant, can any of the above be considered ‘superstars’?

Seems to me more of a briefing that the club are struggling to attract any form of top tier talent.

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17 Jun 2019 13:51:09
I would say Mata, Di Maria, Falcao, Bastian, Zlatan, Pogba, Lukaku and a stretch Matic all could be classed as 'super stars'

Basically players who are at the 'top of their game'.

Oh and Lee Grant.

17 Jun 2019 13:59:48
I think the main reason is that the wage bill is spiralling out of control, and bringing in superstars has had a detrimental effect with a number of current players looking for big wage bumps.

The strategy may tie into Ole’s preference for young players with potential to improve, but it is borne of the more pragmatic need to address the wage issue.

17 Jun 2019 15:29:23
Danny i think the main reason the wage bill is spiralling out of control is the club have given a lot of average players big wages as opposed to splashing out on ‘superstars’.

Hence why we are in position where we are struggling severely to get rid of smalling, jones, darmian and rojo.

We supposedly have the second highest wage bill in world football but we probably only have two players who are of such status.

17 Jun 2019 16:52:41
Well as an average player sat in that dressing room an I see the likes of bastien an zlatan etc sat there on massive wages in going to think yeah if these mugs are paying these has beens that then I'm going to try for the same. And then they pay up. So "superstars" haven't helped.

17 Jun 2019 19:50:13
The question is why would a genuine superstar come here over the last few seasons?

For the exciting football we play?
The supportive dressing room atmosphere?
Tropical Manchester weather?
To work with our world class coaching team?
To compete for the biggest trophies?

That’s why all the ‘big name’ players we have brought in since Fergie retired have been too old, or completely not arsed. If all you have to offer players is money, then the superstars you get are ones that are just interested in picking up a big wage. That’s why we have the highest wage bill in the league, but are still miles off competing for the title.

18 Jun 2019 01:42:52
The fact that Lee Grant did not win this years Ballon D’or is scandalous. No one can fault his performance. Did he even concede a goal this year? I for one am outraged by this snub. I am seriously considering a petition to restore Lee’s unblemished United reputation.

17 Jun 2019 12:32:59
The transfer window is becoming increasingly dull as I get increasingly older. It's a circus show, a farce.

I can't wait for Pogba to leave, Lukaku too. They don't want to be here will therefore offer very little. No swap deals thanks, just cold hard cash so we can rebuild with players we want instead of rejects.

I'm delighted with the alleged change in direction. Daniel James could be a great success, is young and hungry to succeed. Maguire is a solid English defender, and Diop or Ruben Dias also appeals. Wan-Bissaka will be the next England right back for certain and Bruno Fernandes adds a very much needed goal threat from midfield.

Here's to leaving Twitter.

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17 Jun 2019 13:17:37
I'm not sure why people get so caught up in it . We will sign who we sign regardless of what we as a fan would like .

17 Jun 2019 13:52:18
Might be worth reading the transfer news on Reddit instead of twitter, the guys over there are a good laugh and it's funny reading how excited they all get.

 


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