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11 Oct 2017 10:01:08
You have to wonder why a manager would play a player with an ankle injury when the team has already qualified and won the group and are already 3.0 up with 20 mins to go. Is the manager a moron? Surely you let the ankle heal?

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11 Oct 2017 10:07:40
It was a pretty stupid thing to do, I suspect Lukaku may now develop "niggles" before future internationals.

11 Oct 2017 10:29:43
Lukaku would have wanted to play. But the manager has to use common sense and no football would have been more beneficial to all sides, player, Belgium and Manchester United.

11 Oct 2017 12:02:08
Its ridiculous to say the least but that is Roberto Martinez for you .

11 Oct 2017 12:43:05
The manager is an idiot. Simples.

11 Oct 2017 13:44:25
There was a story about someone phoning Martinez and asking him to rest Fellaini and Lukaku.

His decision to play Lukaku while he was recovering from an injury and in a game that was meaningless (not only did they not need to win, they were 3-0 up when he threw Lukaku on) .

It feels a little like spite, like he wants to show that no one can tell him what to do. It's a risky decision, because all games between now and the summer are friendlies which he will need to use to get his team used to playing together and to integrate younger or inexperienced players to get them ready in case they are needed next summer. I highly doubt Fellaini or Lukaku will be available for those games now. I expect they will have a knock in training or in a match just before any friendlies taking them out of contention.

It just shows a lack of either experience or common sense from Martinez. I expected more from him.

11 Oct 2017 14:16:38
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Jose called Martinez after the Fellaini injury and they had an argument. Then the Lukaku bit was done in spite. Doesn't really matter now, but very petty if this was the case.

11 Oct 2017 15:33:16
Agree with Shappy. Martinez has that ego about him and usually wants to display authority. What’s the use of authority when there is no brains present? You just have to ask the current US President 😂😂😂.

11 Oct 2017 18:29:04
I'd love to have no brains and be a billionaire, imagine if he had brains.

10 Oct 2017 20:03:34
Apart from Man Utd, what other teams do you support/ follow and why?

I have two:

AC Milan because my partner is from milan and her family support Milan. When I go to the San Siro I go in the curva with the ultras. It's an incredible experience unlike anything in the Premier League.

San Lorenzo was my team when I lived in Buenos Aires. San Lorenzo have the best songs including one to the tune of 'Despacito' which you can see here https:/ / www. youtube. com/ watch? v=XFZ2yPhqcHw being sung by the 'Popular' part of the stadium where I used to stand. The Pope supports San Lorenzo.

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10 Oct 2017 20:25:30
Mines obviously United and Boca Juniors!

My wife is from Buenos Aires and I get to watch Boca when we visit her family! (Her Dad is season ticket holder)

Nothing can beat the atmosphere of la bombenera on a match day.

Very passionate fans over their and will be a shame if Argentina don’t qualify for the World Cup later this evening.

11 Oct 2017 00:39:58
Can homnstly say i only support UTD.

But port vale are my most local team do i like to see them do well.

11 Oct 2017 08:35:50
Boca Utd; you're lucky to be a regular visitor to Buenos Aires (what a city! ) and have such easy access to la bombenera; tickets are hard/ expensive to come by.

Most of my friends in Buenos Aires support Boca but I wanted to follow a team where I could go to the games and a different match day experience from Old Trafford.

San Lorenzo are towards the top end of the Primera Division (currently 7th) and this year reached the quarter finals of the Copa Libertadores. However, the stadium and quality of football is more Division 1 than EPL. Also, even though Buenos Aires is not a cheap city, it cost £10 a month membership for free admission to the standing section for all league games.

11 Oct 2017 08:42:20
United, Wrexham, FC United, Cardiff are the only teams I follow.

11 Oct 2017 09:14:50
United and PSG.

11 Oct 2017 09:45:36
I don't have any team I support other than United. I do have a few teams I have a soft spot for though.

Juventus being the main one, I grew up watching a lot of Serie A, and at that time Juventus stood out as the entertainers of Italian football. Players such as Zidane, Nedved and Del Piero. These were players I idolised and therefore I still have a soft spot for Juventus.

I also have vivid memories of watching LvG's Ajax side play amazing football on their way to winning the UCL, I loved their style and swagger with such a young side.

Athletic Bilbao are a team I admire for no reason other than their steadfast belief in using local players. They don't want to win if it means disregarding their history and I admire that. Principals over success. It's a refreshing thing to see these days.

Although other than United Juventus are the only team I try and watch it possible.

11 Oct 2017 09:46:19
Red Star Belgrade
Real Madrid because of all the utd players that went there and because I can't support Barca.

11 Oct 2017 10:08:43
I don't support other teams but I keep my eye on Reading as that is where my wife is from and I've been a few times, and I also have a soft spot for Villa from when they got promoted with us in '75.

11 Oct 2017 11:16:00
United, cork city, Celtic, I enjoy watching all the championship sides when they come up, there always seems to be a tenacity and desire you don't see in established premier league sides and who doesn't love an underdog.

11 Oct 2017 12:03:46
Real Madrid because of the brazilian Ronaldo.

11 Oct 2017 14:16:25
IFK Gothenburg. My second home. A little love for Weymouth fc as i used to play for them. Juventud and A. c. Milan as I had the shirts in the 80's / early 90's.

11 Oct 2017 14:50:45
Luton town as they are my local team and my uncles are both season ticket holders so have been to watch them more times than i can remember good day out.

11 Oct 2017 15:56:34
With you there Danny. Luton lad myself. Some great days home and away especially about 2002 time.

12 Oct 2017 01:23:46
Danny, I always had a soft spot for Luton. My cousin, Stephen Robinson, now manager of Motherwell, used to play for them years ago, so we all adopted the team.

Aberdeen are my second team, tho. Started following them in the Fergie years, because everyone at home was either Rangers or Celtic, and I was always an awkward wee bugger. They turned out not too bad in the end. Then went to Uni there, partly so I could see them most weeks - Manchester didn't do my course unfortunately.

Having said that, I was taken to OT for the first time, at 6 years of age, and met one of my heroes Micky Thomas, just hanging around outside the stadium. Guy was a gentleman to me, so there's only one team really.

12 Oct 2017 08:03:15
Stephen Robinson from Northen Ireland Nou? If so, a quality player for Luton. Great attacking cm and a legend for the goal past the scousers in that epic game.

My cousin is manager of Dundee! But apart from Celtic I don't follow Sunday league football. Lol.

12 Oct 2017 10:13:17
Lots of good responses here; thanks very much. Football tends to reflect life and brings people together so it's interesting to see what a varied, international bunch we all are.

A couple of lines really stood out such as Mickey Thomas "just hanging around outside the stadium" at OT. what? and LvG's Ajax side "playing amazing football". which seems incredible after our experience of the worst football ever under LvG.

12 Oct 2017 17:14:24
Milan in the early 90s because of all the great players they had. Always had a soft spot for them, especially Maldini. Shame they have fallen so low now.

Real Madrid in the late 90s because of Raul, Hierro and Suker, and Championship Manager. Can't stand them now because of all the shady things they've done.

But my first love for whom I still hold a candle is La Viola. When Football Italia was on the telly when I was young, Batigol was everything. And I fell in love with the purple strip too. I even supported Roma the year they won because he moved there.

12 Oct 2017 21:10:53
He was with one of the Greenhoff brothers (my memory's letting me down these days), on the Friday before the match, just chewing the fat and signing autographs for kids like me. Not a security guard in sight. I think my mum still has my Utd autograph book in her attic. Good thread.

12 Oct 2017 21:12:32
That's the fella, James. I know he was very popular down there.

10 Oct 2017 16:42:34
Good afternoon Guys

I've just read that Sadio Mane is out for a possible 6 weeks with injury so is out for Saturday. In my opinion this will blunt their attacking strength somewhat as I think he is one of their better players.
I hope we go there with a positive outlook and look to win 3 points rather than just defend for a point. I can't wait for Saturday.

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10 Oct 2017 17:38:29
KNowing our luck, oxIaide chambermaid will have. A stormer o of game.

10 Oct 2017 17:39:49
I would expect Jose's primary goal will be not to lose, and will set up accordingly. Liverpool will attack us - it's in their DNA- so there will be opportunities to hit them on the counter attack.

10 Oct 2017 17:59:51
Very good news for us, Mane is their best player IMO.

10 Oct 2017 18:56:02
Lukkaku on the bench for Belgium.
I hope he stays there for the rest of the night.

10 Oct 2017 19:07:58
Mane is an absolute huge loss for them I know most will say Phil couts is their best player I however disagree .
No mane no party for the Scousers.

10 Oct 2017 19:14:37
I don't know Deano, at this moment in time Mane is looking tired and Coutinho is looking sharp. I think Coutinho given his free-kick expertise and long shooting ability is a bigger threat to our parked bus.

{Ed002's Note - Mane won't be playing at the weekend. It is unclear if Coutinho will play tomorrow but if he does they will need to check how he is before the weekend.}

10 Oct 2017 19:44:51
Ed002, are you saying Coutinho is possibly injured for the game tomorrow?

{Ed002's Note - No.}

10 Oct 2017 21:23:47
If he's playing for brazil an got to fly back that'll take it out of him.

10 Oct 2017 23:01:57
I'm 52 and when I get off a plane in Vegas having flown economy I don't feel tired, so I never get this tired after flying 1st class bit.

{Ed007's Note - Well they do say the older you get the less sleep you need.

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11 Oct 2017 10:07:22
You‘re probably pumped to be in Vegas and can’t wait to gamble.
Coutinho arrives in Liverpool and has to play for Liverpool.
Why would he be pumped ;-)

11 Oct 2017 13:56:59
Dunno Syd I reckon Herrera can do a good job on couts and I'm just not as impressed with him as everyone else it would seem .

10 Oct 2017 16:19:44
We are just entering into a tough 4 game spell all away from home. Suddenly we look a little light in midfield with 2 out. Hope carrick can be an option he was injured not sure of how that is.
3 wins and a draw from these 4 away games would be a great return.
On a side note good luck to toni v tonight and equador in their quest to knock argentina out of the world cup. That would be a huge shock a wc without messi dybala aguero di maria etc etc. i'm not sure it would devalue the wc in anyway either.

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11 Oct 2017 04:28:21
Watching Messi last night I'm sure it would devalue the wc the lads a genius.

11 Oct 2017 16:55:42
He's certainly the greatest player of my generation, Jred. Not sure how people have disagreed with you.

10 Oct 2017 08:12:11
Wales not making the World cup must highlight the issue with signing Bale.

If Bale was fit for Wales' key games they would be in the play offs right now no doubt.

Could someone really spend 100m plus on a player who just can't stay fit. Seems ridiculous to me.

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10 Oct 2017 10:11:28
To be fair, wales were in a tough group. Look at argentina; Kun, Messi, Higuain, Di Maria, Dybala etc. If all these are struggling to make a difference for Argentina then i doubt that just Bale will be the difference in their qualification. Personal opinion though.

10 Oct 2017 12:21:59
Bale is quite injury prone. I’d rather go for Griezmann.

10 Oct 2017 12:43:05
Said it at the time. When you need Bale he's injured. He's their key player yet missed crucial games. Argentina is a different matter.

10 Oct 2017 13:08:07
Bale played 7 international games last year .
And was a big reason Wales got to the semi finals of the euros the year before .
But he did miss the Ireland game.

10 Oct 2017 13:16:30
Apparently Griezmann is not too hot too.
Perhaps we should be careful who we want when we are spending that kind of money unless Jose really has the confidence they will play great and not injured too often.

10 Oct 2017 13:34:00
Unfortunately Bale reminds me of Ronaldo carrying his team in the early years but the issue with Bale is his constant injuries.

I think he will struggle to hit top form now or he won't last long at the top.

09 Oct 2017 21:52:30
Unlucky Wales. Go on ireland.

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09 Oct 2017 22:30:09
Great Win, I wasn't remotely confident of a win but they were full of unity, Wales just couldn't break them down, Ireland are finally getting a team to be proud of again.

09 Oct 2017 22:41:38
Not great to watch. But a bit of courage and determination goes a long way.

{Ed007's Note - I'd love to see Celtic sign McClean just for the ensuing banter ;) Seriously though they can't get Norn Iron in the play-offs can they?}

09 Oct 2017 22:55:33
Ya, that would be something. or we could take out potugal and Ronaldo. lol
No team will want to play ireland in the play offs.

{Ed025's Note - i think they will leahy..

09 Oct 2017 23:05:01
a lot of good teams in the playoffs but they're there for a reason any can beat any over two legs, Croatia and Italy's are the only two i'd fear.

09 Oct 2017 23:10:36
Ed we are a hard team to beat,
We were missing 3 or 4 players and I thought houlihan should have started but I was wrong.
As I said there's good spirit there and it will take a good team to come to dublin and beat us.
And we can win away, we didn't lose an away game all campaign.

{Ed025's Note - im not saying you are no-hopers leahy, just that other teams like italy and possibly portugal will be the teams to avoid, i really hope you get through and i will be cheering them on mate..

10 Oct 2017 07:31:02
Think it's easy playing Ireland ed0025?

{Ed025's Note - not easy angel but certainly easier than facing the italys and portugals of this world mate, good luck to the irish though and i would certainly sooner watch them than boring england ..

10 Oct 2017 09:30:35
Congrats ireland, if it had to be anyone taking our place then happy it’s you guys but your going to need to show some ambition in the play offs, 1 mistake from wales is what got you thru, not that i'm bitter 😂.

10 Oct 2017 09:57:54
Haha WRD. Correct me if I'm wrong but even a draw wasn't enough for you lot at the end due to other results last night. Imagine if you had scored one right at the death, then none of us would have went through lol.

I think all those games are tough ed. I think Greece probably being the easiest for the seeded teams.

Ireland always seem to have this grit and ability to get a result when needed. I think Italy would prefer someone else than Ireland. We've always done okay against them.

10 Oct 2017 11:57:30
Ed025, out of the 4 unseeded teams (Greece, Sweden, Ireland, Northern Ireland) Who do you think out of the seeded teams (Italy, Portugal/ Switzerland, Denmark, Croatia) will want to avoid the most in the qualifiers.

I'm betting they would all prefer someone else rather than the ROI. I'm with you on this Leahy.

10 Oct 2017 11:57:30
Ed025, out of the 4 unseeded teams (Greece, Sweden, Ireland, Northern Ireland) Who do you think out of the seeded teams (Italy, Portugal/ Switzerland, Denmark, Croatia) will want to avoid the most in the qualifiers.

I'm betting they would all prefer someone else rather than the ROI. I'm with you on this Leahy.

{Ed025's Note - sweden obviously, the other 3 will be a good draw for the seeds angel, you may not want to hear that mate but its true..

10 Oct 2017 14:52:10
No your right Croatia won so we had to win to get above them and Slovakia into the last playoff spot. Wales played well in general play but we didn’t really know what to do up top, Allen going off didn’t help, obvs missed Bale but can’t rely on 1 player, future is bright with Brooks, Woodburn, Lawrence and can see bale being used as a CF for wales before too long. Will Coleman be there tho, I’m not so sure. As for Ireland, tough team to break down but to beat any of those in the play offs they will need to have a go at some point, hope Ireland do it for Keanoo! Lol.

10 Oct 2017 18:43:50
I s even put Greece above ROI a good team spirit but a walk over for the seeded teams.

10 Oct 2017 18:46:48
Teams shouldn't be seeded for the play offs. Fair draw, sink or swim.

10 Oct 2017 16:57:29
Okay mate it that's what you think. I would have thought a toss up between those 2 sides.

Ireland are always tough to beat. Just the reality of the past number of years. They always seem to get a result.

Nah ed0025 I'm not a touchy Irish fan or anything. International football is what it is. For me Sweden and Ireland are a toss up, Leahy was right, I don't think anyone would like to draw Ireland. I'm sure they would much prefer either Greece or N Ireland.

12 Oct 2017 01:27:24
So the seeded teams would rather play the 20th placed team than the 34th placed team? Aye, dead on lads 😀.

World's Best Central Midfielders?

09 Oct 2017 10:50:51
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, World's Best Central Midfielders?

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09 Oct 2017 11:42:28
No Jordan Henderson? Lol.

{Ed001's Note - oh dammit, now I have to rewrite it all.....}

09 Oct 2017 15:31:14
Good read that ed.

{Ed001's Note - cheers jred.}

09 Oct 2017 15:37:16
no kroos or iniesta or Goretzka ed1?

Also who would you say is the ultimate best? For me its currently Modric.

Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - Kroos is ok but doesn't do enough work off the ball for me. Iniesta I absolutely love but he is not the same player as he was. I have not seen enough of Goretzka to put him in the same bracket.

I did the top 10 on the podcast embedded in the page mate.}

09 Oct 2017 18:31:49
Nice one ed not much to disagree with In those assessments. Of course there are a couole of players missing i hear what you say about kroos not doing enough off the ball but he does enough on it to win 4 cl a world cup several championships in 2 countries and many other cups. He is a class act when supported by players that compliment his weaknesses. The 3 currently at madrid himself cassimero and modric are as near a perfect 3 as you will find anywhere simialar to xavi innesta and busquets in their pomp. good read mate.

{Ed001's Note - but Kroos on his own is not enough, he is terrible without the protection provided by Casemiro. That was why he does not make it, he is too reliant on other players to play well. The rest are all players who make others play.}

09 Oct 2017 19:30:36
Brilliant read that ed and I pretty much agree with it all 😊.

{Ed001's Note - thanks mate. Though I am not so sure you would agree on the top 10 though!}

09 Oct 2017 21:16:57
Good read. can't find anything to disagree with. Good points on Pog.

{Ed001's Note - thank you very much.}

09 Oct 2017 21:57:49
Few years ago, iniesta would have been head and shoulders above the rest. Genuinely think he was more important to Barcelona than Messi in his prime. Great read though.

{Ed001's Note - he is my favourite and it really hurt to leave him out to be honest. I totally agree that he was the heart and soul of Barca and Spain.}

09 Oct 2017 23:18:41
I actally agree with your assessment of Kroos ed1 but he is highly regarded by many people so just asking. Although very few are near him on the ball, he doesn't contribute much off the ball so I myself wouldn't have had him too.

I think Goretzka has all the tools to be a mainstay in that German midfield and most importantly he is playing week in week out so can improve his game.

Cheers ed!

{Ed001's Note - I will have to take a look at Goretzka when I have some time then.}

10 Oct 2017 04:26:49
or maybe its my biased view ed1. Also no mention of Napoli's midfield. Havent seen much myself but heard they are good ed1

Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - the defensive ones are not so good mate, it is their attacking ones that are great and they were not in this list, otherwise Hamsik would be in.}

10 Oct 2017 07:02:56
Nice read. The most important position in the game as well.

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate, though goalies and strikers might disagree with you on the second bit!}

10 Oct 2017 08:09:45
So you don't rate Jorginho at Napoli? Has to be one of the best midfielders in Italy atm.

{Ed001's Note - I like him but I feel he has it a little easier as the way they play means the pressure is more on those players ahead of him, than on him. Both defensively and offensively. If he was playing in a system with more onus on him, and he performed to the level he has been, then yes he would walk into the list. I did consider him anyway, but decided against him for the reasons I have just mentioned.

When I have seen the pressure put on him, which is rarely but does happen sometimes, he does not look anything like as good. It is those games when you see them fall apart, as he just seems unable to raise himself to take the game by the scruff of the neck.}

10 Oct 2017 14:55:24
Interesting read Ed. If Utd were in the market for another midfielder, who do you think would be the best fit for us?

{Ed002's Note - Marcelo Brozovic, and he is a JM favourite.}

10 Oct 2017 20:20:53
Ed002, Is it true that Arsenal are pushing hard to try and buy Brozovic? I have a feeling Herrera is not a long-term choice by Jose and Fellaini would have gone in the summer had we had sufficient cover in midfield. Carrick getting very old in footballing terms. I guess a midfielder or two could be on the cards in the summer.

{Ed002's Note - Arsenal are also interested in him.}

10 Oct 2017 19:05:46
Doesn't matter ed I'm sure you would disagree with my top 10 also just think we are spoiled by stuff like this love seeing other people's thought concerning stuff like this .

Oh and just to be clear ed I believe pogba to be the best, with not a hint of favouritism 😌.

{Ed001's Note - and Matic would be 2nd right? Again no favouritism involved of course....}

11 Oct 2017 06:19:47
You got it mate 😉.

{Ed001's Note - I am going to hazard a guess here, but would Ander Herrera be in at number 3?}

12 Oct 2017 10:17:09
That's interesting Ed002. It's the Milan derby on Sunday so hopefully I'll get to see him play.

{Ed002's Note - He won't be playing in the game.}

07 Oct 2017 20:52:36
Fellaini just got injured not good news for Liverpools game but it would giv3 Herrera a chance to start.

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08 Oct 2017 08:49:46
Rumoured ligament damage could be out for a while.

08 Oct 2017 11:16:38
Hate these stupid international breaks. We always limp back into the league with them. Herrera will struggle against liverpool's bigger midfielders. I have us now losing the game especially if they have their full squad available for selection.

08 Oct 2017 12:02:02
Really xfiles, have you not been watching Liverpool of late?

08 Oct 2017 14:48:59
Fellaini out for 2 week.

08 Oct 2017 14:55:54
angel

I have watched them all year. They are very capable of running a score at you at home if you are not playing with a full compliment of your team. They need the points, its a huge rivalry and catching us at a time where we are limping into the game. hope i am wrong. let's see.

08 Oct 2017 14:57:55
Blessing in disguise for the Liverpool game with their fast interplay imo. Herrera will suit it more.

I fancy us to win by at least 2 goals.

{Ed025's Note - big call that beast..

08 Oct 2017 15:18:36
I'd have started with Herrera, but would have wanted Fellaini as an option. Still a loss. It depends how we start the game. We can score several goals if we commit and don't park the bus.

I suspect Jose will park the bus somewhat. Knowing it does frustrate Liverpool, but if they get first goal then it may be hard changing our game. If we score first then we could pick them off.

For me first goal really could be important in this one.

08 Oct 2017 15:53:35
Sorry, yeah they are in great form, back 4 looks formidable, scoring goals at will.

Liverpool definite favourites against us especially because we have been so poor of late.

{Ed025's Note - you know as well as i do angel that form goes out of the window for this type of fixture, and as much as i would like to see a utd win i feel that a draw will be a hell of a result against them mate..

08 Oct 2017 16:23:45
Ed025, no matter how the form is between ourselves and Liverpool, I still get nervous for this fixture. Yes we are a better side, have better XI, better squad, better form, but like you said it means nothing in this fixture. Plus Liverpool always raise their game against the bigger sides. Anyway, let's hope there is no controversial decision and it's a good game.

{Ed025's Note - very much so sydney, i think there will be goals in it but my concern is that uniteds defence has not really been tested yet this season, and with the likes of couts, mane and salah they will pose a real threat mate..

08 Oct 2017 16:24:07
I think the pressure will be on them to attack, which is precisely what we need. The reason we have smashed teams despite playing poor (compared to what we are capable of), is because our opponent has to try and get a goal back and we capitalise. As the home team and being much better going forward they will over commit and we will mop up against their woeful defence.

I am assuming Jose plays to this and I see no reason why he would change anything.

08 Oct 2017 16:33:18
Tactically both managers will feel they need to do something.

Klipperty will be desperate to fit in an extremely attacking front five, but will be worried about being caught at the back.

Jose will want to stick to his tried and tested team. But left back is a concern, and Rashford will end up playing as an extra left back.

With the likely Liverpool line up I could almost see us going 352, which sounds overly cautious. but could be a good way of keeping Rashford or Martial further forward. We could bring in Young wide left for Mata to retain some width.

08 Oct 2017 16:34:14
Herrera isn't a small lad X. I wouldn't say Henderson has a physical advantage over him. Fellaini is a loss but Herrera is a much better footballer than him.

08 Oct 2017 18:31:00
Matic will be key. Sitting in the space Coutinho will look to attack. Our Center backs should handle Firminho and Tony V and I assume it will be Young will need to keep showing Mane and Salah to the byline. Our attack should cause so a lot of problems for them. I'm optimistic for three points.

08 Oct 2017 18:32:42
Fellani is a loss for that game, they are bad at the back and more than bad at set pieces.
If we defend well we should beat them.

08 Oct 2017 19:24:27
Absolutely ed25 but I can not in my right mind say that Liverpool are favourites for this game.

I feel Liverpool are there for the taking mate. Rashford, lukaku, martial, miki etc against their back 4 has my mouth watering.

I think that they are all over the place at the moment and are as disorganised as I've seen them in recent years.

The fact the international break came when it did might be really good for us. They will have less time to prepare for this game.

{Ed025's Note - it will basically be the same for both teams angel, a lot will depend on how jose wants to approach it for me, will he set up defensively and try to hit on the counter or go for it from the start?, i think it may be the former actually but if you let liverpool get the lead and are then chasing the game they will seriously hurt you on the counter mate..

08 Oct 2017 19:31:53
Herrera is 6 feet tall. Not exactly small.

08 Oct 2017 19:59:08
I think it's worse for Liverpool pal as they have been struggling for form where as we seemed to have gelled and are in a bit if purple patch. I don't think the break will have hindered us as much.

I think we will set up with a defensive shape to hit them on the counter. With the hope that we take our early chances and Liverpool open up a bit more as they look to create more. That will lead to us having a bit more space as the game goes on.

I just can't see Liverpool really bringing it to us at the weekend. Our front 4 are just too much especially for that defence.

I honestly see us hitting 3 goals past them. I believe we could really do a number on them this time.

{Ed025's Note - i love your optimism mate even though i dont think it will be as easy as you say..

08 Oct 2017 20:22:05
It all depends ed025 on if we get a chance earlier and put it away. We do That, we could put a few past them.

Maybe I'm being too optimistic but I really think from Watching Liverpool so far they have not impressed.

{Ed025's Note - it bothers me that united have not really played anyone yet angel, you could of course be right and you smash them and i wont be shedding any tears i can assure you, they have not had the start they wanted but beware the wounded animal is all i can say mate..

08 Oct 2017 20:39:43
I remember the same fixture last season. Liverpool were on frightening form at the time scoring St will. We had drawn I think 2 games in a row and were playing badly. The most popular phrase on the Liverpool site at the time was we will smash them. The situation is now a parallel but I think a repeat result is likely. I wouldn't be surprised if it's another draw.

08 Oct 2017 21:42:28
I see it as a draw. We never play well there but somehow we manage to get results. 1 all is my prediction.

09 Oct 2017 10:14:57
It's Jose, so we will play with a back five and use Rashford and Lukaku to break. Wouldn't be surprised to see a 352, that will at times be more like a 532. We will have Martial to bring on when legs are tired. That may be key. I still think first goal is massive in this game. Fellaini certainly would have started and his aerial threat would have scared the sh! t out of the Liverpool defence. Gomes is very rash and is very lucky to be available to play against us. I can see Rashford targeting him and he could struggle if the ref doesn't bottle it. Rashford will draw many fouls and we'll see if the ref punishes them. Mikhitaryan will occupy space between their midfield and defence and will thread Lukaku through, hope he doesn't have a nervous one like he did against Everton early on. Lukaku needs to punish Liverpool with the chances he gets.

09 Oct 2017 12:48:57
Ah yes the key player. The ref. I'm expecting a bottle job. A disallowed pen. An incorrect sending off and a controversial pen.

09 Oct 2017 13:09:04
Syd i suspect martial will start this one he is fesh rash played twice for England. But i agree we might see 3 at the back which could be 5 at times.

10 Oct 2017 17:24:44
I'd be happy with Martial or Rash, even both instead of Mata. I can see that working better if we are playing counter attack.

07 Oct 2017 20:18:55
Best OT atmosphere Barcelona at home 1984, I know it's difficult to replicate with all seater stadium but nothing has come close for me.

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08 Oct 2017 08:05:55
Yes I was in the Stretford end that night and it was unbelievable. I couldn’t sleep that night because of the buzz from the atmosphere. Modern fans haven’t experienced the movement in a standing area, the all in this together to support the team feeling it creates, the flow of a whole group of people as a goal goes in. All seater doesn’t give you that. Adding corporate prawn sandwich munchers into the middle of the Stretford end was an utter disgrace and disrespectful to all those fans who for years pushed the team on with their support. All we can do now is remember nights like Barcelona 84.

07 Oct 2017 20:12:38
Fellani after picking up knee injury.
A week before the Liverpool game, the team that can't defend set pieces.
Jose will be happy.

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