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Review Of The Day 7th January 2019

07 Jan 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 7th January 2019

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Is the Appointment of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer a Masterstroke by Manchester United?

06 Jan 2019 18:33:43
{Ed's Note - DLIB has posted a new article entitled, Is the Appointment of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer a Masterstroke by Manchester United?

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06 Jan 2019 22:21:13
Great post DLIB. 👍.

06 Jan 2019 23:46:51
Top post DLIB.

06 Jan 2019 23:54:05
Good post DLIB, the real test will be against Spurs at the weekend.

07 Jan 2019 00:35:31
Good post DLIB.

Perhaps the coach and director of football will fit Manchester united well. Certainly feels like the club, and it's culture is now front and centre. Before it was LVG and Mourinho. This may be the right way to move beyond the SAF years until a time a truely world class manager either develops or is available to get.

07 Jan 2019 00:44:49
Well said DLIB.

07 Jan 2019 02:05:53
Great post DLIB but I wouldn't give Woodward the credit for forseeing what has transpired. Infact, I think we have completely backed ourselves into a corner. There isn't a United fan out there who wouldn't want Ole to take over and be successful. But with him starting off so well, it has actually been counterproductive for our immediate future.

I'd imagine Woodwards plan was, sack Jose, bring in an interim manager, get the feel good factor back at OT and save money in January by not purchasing any players. Gives him a couple of months to go after the manager he wants.

But history will tell us that Woodward couldn't plan a piss up in a brewery. Everything that has come out of united since Joses sacking has been the wrong way of doing things.

Naming a manager in a job as the interim manager for 6 months was wrong.

Telling Ole he has an input in incoming January transfers is daft, considering he might not be here come June.

The main man Woodward wants is obviously Pochettino. It's clearly a manager that's only obtainable in the summer. Ole, Blanc, Zidane are available now. Pochettino isn't. Woodwards plan has already backfired on him. Ole has a 100% record. Got the best out of some of our star players and has brought life back to fans.

Les Reed was on a programme a few weeks ago with Tim sherwood talking about how Spurs got Pochettino to leave Southampton. They recruited Southamptons recruitment manager Paul Mitchell and Poch said he would only leave at the end of the season but Mitchell was there to start the transition.

My point being that Spurs knew who their manager was going to be and could start planning transfer's and what not. Right now you can't rule out Ole getting the gig full time. Pochettino isn't going to commit to United without knowing that Ole won't get the job.

Woodward has no control over who our next manager is and that shouldn't happen. It is at the complete mercy of how OGS performs.

When most teams are already planning transfer's for next summer, we're stuck snookered behind the black because Woodward has ballsed this up royally. But on the bright side, it's at win win. Ole stays because he's done a great job and we have a club legend in charge. Or he just falls short and we have potentially a world class manager in Pochettino to take us forward (and then Ole takes over Spurs and wins the league) .

06 Jan 2019 21:24:13
Good piece DLIB, I think out of the 4 managers we had post SAF, Ole has been the best, not because of style of play, but because he gets the club, the others didn't and no matter if he does a good job (wins) or not he will still be better than the other 3 to me.

07 Jan 2019 03:51:45
Its a good post DLIB and heart doed rule over head. I was on the "support/ back the manager" podition throughout, both with LvG and Jose and believe me i am backing the current incumbent as well but i do think that its only a feel good factor right now that everyone is cherishing. Ole really hasn't done anything right now. We wete good in the first 3 games, then against Newcastle we were "so-so" because a certain Frenchman had a poor game and we were pathetic against a championship side and were outplayed at our own home. The key to it has been Paul Pogba. He fell out with Jose and it was downhill for the manager ever since. My point here is that anyone woukd have brought this feel good factor after Jose, its not really Ole's doing. He might still be a shrewd signing but calling him the saviour after 2 weeks is not just premature, its downright stupid. Just my 2 cents.

07 Jan 2019 06:57:22
I am with United Addict. I find it hard to believe the level of sentimentality amongst our support. Perhaps Munich makes us all more emotionally bought in. It feels like SAF has control of the club at a time we need to look forward not back. For me we should have a plan in place, be working now towards it, know who we want and aim for it. If the board are deflected by emotion or are uncertain or become split, and are not 100% professional we could make the wrong decision. SAF will like Ole, but he liked Moyes, let’s remember that, the values of the 80’s are not necessarily going to work as we approach 2020.

We have had three appointments gone wrong, another will put the club back to the 70’s. People are smiling now but we still have a bunch of players choosing when they want to play and if you watched the programme last night on SAF you will know that is unacceptable to him. I just doubt Ole is the right man for such a huge task, it’s my opinion and each time the club has made a change recently, it wasn’t the one I wanted and it hasn’t gone well. I am concerned at whether we have a robust enough decision making process.

07 Jan 2019 10:05:48
I too am guilty of sentimentality and would love Ole to win every game from now on to the end of the season and become our new messiah but on reflection i feel we are in a honeymoon period at the minute. After a while he will settle on a team and the smiles and positivity will be tested. Substitutes will complain and so on. So I hope he has a new way of dealing with these new age footballers where jose, LVG hadnt. Having looked at the games so far the old frailties still exist but in fairness this new mindset papers over these cracks and I love it - however long it lasts. There are challenges but a bright outcome is easier to see now. So far Ole has fulfilled his briefing well and many could learn from his approach. Manchester United have so many needs that asking Ole too wave a wand is unfair on him and very unrealistic. I suspect we will lose games and it is then that we will see that this stopgap is what it is. An experienced squad builder/ transfer identifier/ tactician/ player liaison, is above Ole's skill set. i'd be overjoyed if proven wrong and fingers crossed for the guy. he's a breath of fresh air but i feel the "big decision makers" for want of a better term should remain focused on Pochetino. Ole is still very young and a successful stint may see him back again in years to come. Other clubs are surely watching him as we speak. Good man Ole and good luck.

07 Jan 2019 10:20:20
i agree with United Addict and Red Man. The reason for me that we are so poor in decision making is because we still have Bobby Charlton and SAF making decisions in the board. Its sentiment that is ruling the board rather than football/ business. These 2 are legends of United but I believe its time to let go of them from decision making. I know there are people who will not like this post and will back SAF and Charlton still but i also know that these are the same people who said Jose was a dinosaur. If Jose was that, SAF and Charlton would be?
I want to use a Cricket example over here where tough decisions were made in Indian team where absolute legends like Ganguly, Tendulkar, Laxman and Dravid were let go and a new structure put in place and the results are for everyone to see.

07 Jan 2019 12:14:33
We have time.
I have no objection if OGS gets the job if he continues in the same vein as he has started.
If we win a cup and finish top 4 with this squad then it bodes well for him to take the job long term.

But he should only get the job permanently if he delivers outstanding results this season imo.

The club sh poo uld prepare for both eventualities.
1 giving ogs the job
2 continue to search for a manager in case ogs does not reach yhe heights required.

Poch is 1 candidate potentially. There are many others.

Personally i'm not too concerned with next season just yet as a supporter. We have many battles ahead of us this year to secure top 4. To tie down a couple of key players and even more importantly sell the underperforming squad players that have failed us time and again.

07 Jan 2019 12:28:02
Ole is definitely as of right now just getting the players playing to a baseline standard in a more fluid attacking system which suits the majority of our squad down to the ground. We're yet to see whether he has what it takes to elevate the players to their maximum potential. Some naive decisions against Newcastle perhaps hint at the answer no he doesn't, but perhaps he was forced in to them by the busy festive schedule.

However most importantly, for the situation we currently find ourselves in he may just be the best out there who was available. Every word that comes out of his mouth is in line with what we want to here. The reconnection between the fans and the club has been immense and he's providing the perfect exterior image for the club while issues behind the scenes get sorted.

Suddenly the director of football role at the club looks like an enticing one and we're slowly becoming the Manchester United that no manager or player would turn down.

07 Jan 2019 13:23:12
For flip sake, can we not just enjoy some decent football again, and a team and manager with smiles on their faces, after the dark days of the last few seasons?

Enjoy it for what it is, a welcome short term relief, rather than accusing people of being sentimental fools.

{Ed025's Note - i totally agree noucamp..

07 Jan 2019 16:43:30
I agree Noucamp99,

I don’t think it’s sentimental at all. He is a Utd man. He is doing as good if not a better job than the last three managers we’ve had. And I think he deserves all our support. Nothing would make me happier than to see one of our own, one that understands fully what Man Utd is, succeed in the job. He might be inexperienced but he has Phelan beside him, by all accounts a good coach.

What is to say he doesn’t grow into the job like Zidane and Pep? I know there is a very good possibility that he won’t but he is making a very good job of it so far. At least let’s give one of our own the benefit of the doubt. Knives him the chance to succeed, Instead of writing him off in spite of a perfect record. There are no guarantees. There is no guarantee that Poch will be successful either, or anyone else for that matter.

Find a good DOF and build from there. If ole is good enough he will prove it. Until then he has my backing 100%.

07 Jan 2019 17:13:19
Agree noucamp.

07 Jan 2019 21:27:32
Yes Noucamp, I would like to enjoy the football without the sentimental calls to appoint Ole on a permanent basis on a nearly daily basis. If only we could all just relax and Que sera sera.

07 Jan 2019 23:17:45
All I've seen is people getting excited about watching Utd again. If that makes people sentimental, then lump me in there, too. I've only seen people on here state the rather obvious point, that should Olé be a resounding success before the end of the season, then he deserves to be at least considered. Stop being so over-dramatic.

06 Jan 2019 13:06:50
I see we MAY look at Yannick Carrasco this window. I do not know anything about him apart from around 25 years old. If he is deemed good enough for us, why is he playing in China?

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06 Jan 2019 13:36:32
Hie fav cuisine is chinese.

06 Jan 2019 13:45:12
Would be very exciting if this were true. Followed the cash to China, probabky now realising it was a bad decision. Top player.

06 Jan 2019 14:36:18
He is not a top player. He is inconsistent, lazy, and lacks an end product. Athletico did everything to get rid of him. I hope this is the usual media BS.

06 Jan 2019 14:36:53
Is he Eric? I wonder if anyone else is looking? What position does he play?

06 Jan 2019 18:56:59
Well therein lies the difference as to why football is such a wonderful game. Danny P has thoroughly scouted him and spoken. 👀.

06 Jan 2019 22:19:22
Eric, Danny's right though. He has talent, yet too often his consistency let's him down. The player he most reminds me of is Nani, although Nani did manage one consistent season where he was excellent.

Atletico were more than happy to sell him, and for good reason. He went to China because no one saw a player worth gambling such a high amount of money on as worth while.

There are better prospects in our academy, and they would likely be just as inconsistent at this stage, but there is at least the hope that they might become consistent with time. Carrasco won't achieve that.

07 Jan 2019 08:14:11
I loved Nani though Shappy. We haven’t had a player like him since. Nani!

07 Jan 2019 10:55:59
Eric, I loved Nani too. Me and Nani share a birthday. On his day he was unplayable, yet you needed to play him every week for that to happen and you would be lucky to get 5 or 6 games a season where he would just click.

The league has become too competitive to have a player you will have to carry 90% of the time.

We need players who will contribute even when they aren't on form.

Carrasco isn't a player who offers that. He is either a 5 out of 10 or a 9 out of 10 and nothing in between.

There are better options available.

07 Jan 2019 11:52:17
Who you thinking?

07 Jan 2019 11:52:35
I’m guessing Sanchez should be one!

06 Jan 2019 10:10:38

I have not commented on this forum for a very long time.

Think a lot of you need to give these players a fresh start under ole, you can't decided to sell 6-7 players because of one poor game.

Anyway role on spurs.

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06 Jan 2019 11:05:20
Some players have been lingering under the last three managers . The time has come to get rid. Smalling Valencia Fellaini Rojo etc. We need upgrades if we are to challenge. 😆😆.

06 Jan 2019 12:02:08
The problem is many of these players have been here under the last managers and in some cases dating back to Fergie. They've consistently shown that they aren't good enough so no. No more fresh starts. A proper clear out is needed.

06 Jan 2019 12:05:41
You must have missed a lot of them under moyes, LVG and Jose.

Some of them had more clean slates than god knows.

06 Jan 2019 13:15:04
I game big V? 3 or 4 managers and several years some of them.

06 Jan 2019 13:46:40
Could we have found our new centre back in our own ranks. Darmian was excellent yesterday. Always could defend, but his distribution and attacking threat down the right was always poor. At CB all he has to do is defend which he clearly loves.

06 Jan 2019 14:13:32
I thought he looked decent Eric but I suspect he would get ripped to shreds by top quality opposition.

06 Jan 2019 15:53:41
They had 4 0r 5 great chances he and jones were poor.

06 Jan 2019 18:23:39
Agreed Ken. This is reading who are just at bottom of championship.

06 Jan 2019 20:19:40
I don't see why Darmian can't be kept on as a squad player, especially when he can play anywhere along the back line.

06 Jan 2019 21:37:45
Because he's not good enough perhaps?

06 Jan 2019 22:21:37
I've always thought he was ok, but I suppose it's all about opinions.

07 Jan 2019 00:38:38
Move him out, bring in Tuanzebe?

07 Jan 2019 12:53:54
He's ok. But rojo is ok, Smalling is ok, Fellaini is ok. We have too many that are just ok. To get back to the top we need more than ok. In direct competition for his position he has Valencia who's been awful for 2 years and a 19 year old lad. Over at left back its Shaw who has injury issues and a 33 year old converted winger. And he hasn't been able to make either position his own.

07 Jan 2019 14:01:39
I've no issues with darmian as squad cover. Hard worker, defensively okay, not a started but can more than do a job when needed.

Our club has been littered with darmians over the years. Nothing wrong with it at all.

08 Jan 2019 15:43:21
We can't have 25 worldies. Some squad players are going to be, 'ok'. I think his versatility alone puts him ahead of the others that have been mentioned.

Review Of The Day 6th January 2019

06 Jan 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 6th January 2019

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07 Jan 2019 17:17:39
Darmian is a good defender. I would definitely keep him for his versatility.

{Ed025's Note - i think hes bloody awful will..

07 Jan 2019 19:52:02
I think 1 on 1 he's hard to beat, not many get past him. And the fact he can play either side full back or centre half I'd keep him as backup. But I'd keep Jones too and not many agree with that so what do I know :-)

06 Jan 2019 07:01:41
Agree with Park3lung on Defence but I'd like to see some stability before we invest more in Midfield. We probably need a smart passing defencive mid in the mold of Carrick but they are few and far between. I'd like Neves but happy to wait and see what this lot can do with some coaching. Fingers crossed.

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06 Jan 2019 10:58:57
Eric Dier 😆😆.

06 Jan 2019 11:13:36
I think it entirely depends on how the next full time manager wants his midfield to play.

That balance and make up of the midfield is vital for a any manager. Everyone has their own ideas.

Some like a midfield with very distinct roles, others like more rounded midfielders. It depends on how you want to play and what role your midfield plays in that.

Also the club and Pogba himself are looking for pastures new. So there is a good chance he leaves in the summer leaving us with Matic, Fred, Herrera, Fellaini, Andreas Pereira and McTominay as midfield options. Of which Fellaini is limited, Herrera is yet to sign a new contract, Fred hasn't settled yet, Matic isn't getting any younger and Pereira and McTominay are unproven and have question marks over their quality.

However, potentially Fred and Herrera could have roles to play, Matic in rotation adds a quality we lack and experience.

However, a couple of new faces would definitely freshen up and add a new dynamic to our midfield. Who they are and even what type of midfielder they are will very much depend on the next manager.

06 Jan 2019 12:08:58
With the front 4/ 5 we possess, we are in need in more of a dynamic midfielder, kante/ veratti/ Matuidi style. one who can disposes opposition and quickly release our attacking players.

In recent weeks you see how dangerous they are on the break.

06 Jan 2019 06:13:09
I'm a new poster so big thanks to the Ed's and the regular posters for making this a great site.

5 games is no judge of Ole's credentials but I'm so chuffed to see some of our very talented players having some fun and entertaining the fans. Regardless of what they are paid, most of them are young lads and a bit of encouragement goes a long way.

I hope we don't jump in Ole's back if we lose against Spurs and I hope we don't try to buy our way out of trouble in Jan. our Defence is suspect but I'd rather do some smart business for an experienced leader in defence (Koulibaly, Alderweireld, Manolas), which is unlikely in Jan.

I'd like to see us get a relatively affordable experienced CB in Summer like Alderweireld and a top class prospect like De Ligt or Skriniar. I realise this won't come cheap but a top quality defence will give our very talented forwards a platform to reach their potential.

If Poch is a realistic target he'll also want new Full Backs. I now he's not proven yet but I like Wan-Bissaka and we could do with someone to give Shaw some competition.

We've got holes in Midfield but I'd like
to see if Fred can improve before labelling him as the next Kleberson. Also Matic has looked like a tidy passer since he has been told to pass forward.

Let's see which of these handsomely payed players has got what it takes to thrive in a proper United style before we ditch them for the next flavour of the month. But if they falter against Spurs I'm going to reserve judgement.

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06 Jan 2019 08:40:04
If it were possible I would have gone for Godin on a free in the summer and let our young CB's learn from him.

I would then be more interested in trying to offload more of the makeweights before moving to bring in more. I think some space needs to be created for a handful of our youngsters before adding more to the squad.

06 Jan 2019 11:06:36
Godin is using us to get a new deal from Inter Milan 😆😆.

05 Jan 2019 23:34:21
5 from 5 - great start for Ole. Felt a little more Jose Mourinho Utd today if I'm honest but 9 changes will damage our rhythm. Think quite a few on the pitch realise their time is up and need to be moved on ASAP.

Jones, Darmian, Andreas, Fellaini and sadly Mata need to go on top of Rojo and dare I say Lukaku. Ole's style needs a mobile striker with a good touch. Lukaku is not that man, Rashford or Sanchez is.

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05 Jan 2019 17:58:47
Hi ed001 hope you are well mate. Are you able to do an article on the top 10 up and coming managers please? Preferably not the household names we know such as Poch or Klopp etc. Would be great if you could also include their style of play as well. I remember seeing we had RB Salzburg manager Marco rose as an option on shortlist for manager and was interested to see what style of play he promotes. Thank you.

{Ed001's Note - I have added that to my to do list for you mate. I should be back to writing articles as normal next week when my parents go back home, I will try and prioritise that one (if I remember).}

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05 Jan 2019 18:46:38
Much appreciated ed I hope all is well with you!

{Ed001's Note - very good here mate, been nice having a semi-break and spending time with the old folks. How are things with you Parkie?}

05 Jan 2019 19:05:06
That’s great to hear ed. I am well thanks. Had a crazy Xmas with 40 people around so that was eventful to say the least. And I’ve just started a new job so very busy. But busy is good!

{Ed001's Note - that sounds like fun. I hope the new job works out well for you mate.}

05 Jan 2019 20:05:01
Thank you ed.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate, take care.}

05 Jan 2019 09:53:56
OGS discussing thean utd players:

Definitely, players will get the chance. When they’re here, they’re good enough to play for Man United and you trust them, so I’m looking forward to tomorrow. ”

That's what I want to hear and a stark contrast to the last chap.

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05 Jan 2019 12:00:53
Even if it’s not true?

05 Jan 2019 12:09:15
Ole is growing on me every day. No fellaini today despite all the changes he only makes the bench. I wonder how much longer he will be at the club.
Looking forward to seeing the game today.

05 Jan 2019 12:30:11
Yes, when if its not true. He needs to make this tram greater than the sum of the parts, and may need to rely on any of those players if injuries etc force his hand. Build them up, make them into more than they were when you found them, that's the managers job.

05 Jan 2019 12:42:09
Fellaini has been linked with a move to turkey for 2 years. If a club finally comes in for him he’ll be off I think.

05 Jan 2019 13:22:49
Yeah and the much appraised Perreira has been at the heart of everything. did he even touch the ball first half? Fellaini would have been much better than the 3 mids that are currently playing.

05 Jan 2019 14:36:17
I agree shan but he is not going to get any better those guys need the opportunity.

05 Jan 2019 14:48:58
Most of that starting team isn't good enough. Pereira convinced me he should be departing. Same with McTominay. Add to that Valencia, Jones, Smalling, Rojo, Fellaini, Mata for sure.

05 Jan 2019 15:40:58
Smalling is a decent 3rd choice cb and can maintain a squad place imo i'd add darmian to that list mort.

05 Jan 2019 20:26:23
Perreira is as much a central midfielder, as I am an international porn star. He's an attacking midfielder.

05 Jan 2019 22:12:36
Yeah I meant to add Darmian. He's the invisible man.

I still don't think Pereira is good enough.


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