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25 Feb 2024 20:58:10


Shappy has written an article entitled, Speculation On Manchester United's Next Manager

25 Feb 2024 20:25:02
Ratcliffe was quite clear. If every manager is failing, including some quite good ones, then the problem most likely lies somewhere other than the manager.

ETH may or may not survive, but whether he does so will not be based on what's happening now but on whether the new administration considers him the best available manager to take the club forward.

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. The players we have now are simply not good enough. None of them would make it at Liverpool, Arsenal or City. Klopp and Pep would not win a title with them. So why would anyone expect ETH to do so? Every team has injuries, true, but Pep and Klopp have been at their respective clubs for a while now and have solid deep squads all versed in playing to a particular style. ETH does not have that luxury: not even close to it. We need all our best players fit and healthy to be in with a chance. Injuries to key players affect all clubs but because our squad is so shallow on quality, it affects us more, particular in relation to the expectations of our fan base, which are completely unrealistic.

There are a few positive signs for the future, but that's it.

25 Feb 2024 23:29:21
I agree in oart Shaw.
I don't think there is an eth out campaign.
If the new management have faith in eth and trust him to bring the team forward and are seeing something I'm not then ill be 100% behind that decision.
I'd genuinely thought we would be seeing some more signs of improvement.

26 Feb 2024 06:44:33
Spot on Shaw. The ETH out bandwagon is rolling, but given how many Managers have failed, the Manager is not the issue.

26 Feb 2024 06:59:51
I would agree with that sentiment Shawthing if we saw just a glimmer of what Ten Hag is trying to do with this team. The problem is, we don’t see any style of play. His in game management is poor too. I am not calling for his head because as others have said, 10 or more players need to go before him but if I was the new hierarchy I’d be concerned about giving him more money to spend on duds.

26 Feb 2024 08:18:46
EtH has proved that he is a good manager with Ajax, it is hard to know whether this was in part due to the structure of how the players come through from the youth team but he was a success. He has also had some relative success since coming in.
My issue at the minute is how other teams, and those lesser in players and standing are dominating us from a skill and desire level. This is something that EtH could control from the time that he has been here, yes we have had injuries but I would still expect the squad to have had more about it.
I am torn between giving him time and a proper structure and starting from scratch with another manager. A lot will depend on what the new structure decides and I can't help but think they will want a clean break.

26 Feb 2024 10:45:52
Brad that last paragraph sums up my feelings exactly over past 2 months.
I have since come down on the side of eth is not up to the job and is in fact bringing us backwards.

25 Feb 2024 18:51:43
I think Champions league qualification would make a huge difference for attracting the better players in the summer.

25 Feb 2024 19:15:21
No chance of making it.

25 Feb 2024 19:28:25
I think having Jennifer Lawrence parade constantly up and down my street in short shorts would make a huge difference to my property value.

That's not happening either.

25 Feb 2024 20:17:43
Recon I think you’re right. However, like finding a unicorn it isn’t going to happen.

25 Feb 2024 20:32:25
She's too busy on my street RWWD ?.

26 Feb 2024 16:23:16
3 points off 5th and 4th and 5th have each other to play, we need to go on another run but it’s certainly not ‘no chance’ of it happening.

25 Feb 2024 17:20:35
Massive game coming up against forest in the cup.
I think either or both of amad and Antony have to be under strong consideration for starting places ahead of forsann and rashford.
Rashford put in what I can only describe as the most cowardly and incompetent performance as I've ever seen from a Manchester United centre forward.
Absolutely pathetic.
I have been one of his most ardent supporters over the years and defended his lows but others like ajh noucamp and many others have just grown sick of his disinterest and horrible lack of effort, respect and professionalism.
I hope that he leaves and I hope he finds happiness and does really well wherever he goes.

25 Feb 2024 18:36:25
Antony got 30 seconds at left back Ken so maybe he did enough to play there on Wednesday!

25 Feb 2024 19:47:03
I was laughing at that gds on Saturday.
To be honest I've no idea who should play or who will play in about 4 different positions.
I think experience will be where he goes.
Cas may be out for mctom.
Amrabat at lb possibly he might go balls out and go with the 16yo but I highly doubt it. I'm assuming lindelof is injured.
God knows who will play where up front.
We need to scramble through this one to keep the session alive.

25 Feb 2024 20:02:03
We've seen worse performances Ken. But sadly only by rashford himself. I would say that is his 3rd or 4th worse performance in a utd shirt. We still paid him $360k at the end of the week though, so I guess he's happy.

He should go play in France or Germany, frankly anywhere but here now for me.

Fernandes is a different animal. He has been in poor form recently, but his effort is not a question. Yesterday his performance awful, I don't see how we move forward as a team with him playing like that. He has zero respect for possession of the ball and it is leading to us conceding more shots on goal that any other team except shef utd.

Given fernandes age. I would also get him sold as well. I know we have worse players in the squad that him, but they do not have the influence on our squad and on our performance as he does. Lindelof was very poor at left back yesterday, but rash and Fernandes are far more the reason why we didn't win than Lindelof playing out of position at LB.

We need to make some big moves in the summer and set ourselves up for an exciting future.

25 Feb 2024 20:29:22
We’re foookered good and proper. Europe? Having a laugh.

25 Feb 2024 17:12:13
Sorry ed033
Can you also look at putting up another poll.
Would you like to see rashford sold in the summer?

{Ed033's Note -


Rashford sold poll

25 Feb 2024 19:17:42
I think he is just disenchanted with the way the team has declined around him. He doesn't get decent service. The midfield and defence are regularly second best. He will thrive in a good team. Even Pep rates him.

25 Feb 2024 20:31:31
Salford Rashford is a winger fs. Doesn’t get decent service? It’s HIS job to service. Ye Gods.

26 Feb 2024 03:58:27
He regularly gets the ball in space and does nothing. In the box he plays hide and seek. And that is his best side. His work rate on pressing and covering his full back must be worst in the league, and his bravery and tenacity in tackles and aerial duels is worthy of a 6 year old school kid playing in an under 18 pub league.

25 Feb 2024 17:07:15
Good morning ed033.
I think it would be interesting to gauge opinion on here.
Can we have a poll please.
Do you think eth will be replaced in the summer?
Thanks Ed.

{Ed033's Note -


ETH replaced poll

25 Feb 2024 17:22:57
Thanks.

25 Feb 2024 17:23:21
It’s a yes from me.

25 Feb 2024 18:06:01
If you want eth out, you are not a fan, you are the problem.
I've been on this site for so long and witnessed the same group of people turning on individuals.

We have endured a fall from grace, get over it. But, there appears to be a new direction in place. It will be hard yards, make no mistake. There will be losses to the Fulham's of this world.

Time is what is required for the squad that will remain, the players that will come in, the youth that needs to be developed, the backroom staff that needs a direction, the stadium and training complexes which need a refresh, AND the manager who is at the helm navigating all the rubbish that has gone before.

Just be patient with it all.

25 Feb 2024 18:22:31
I am very much a fan jimbo. I just don't agree with you.
Let's see what the experts in charge want to do. After all our opinions are totally irrelevant when it comes to the decision making.
I can assure you I'm very much a fan and no matter what they decide I'll be supporting the team.
I feel very differently towards eth than I did ole to be honest.
I think he has as you say had a lot to deal with.
But I'm coming to my opinion based on what I see on the pitch. We are not a team at all. Nobody either knows the roles he wants or the manager can't get them across. Oyr play is slow and lethargic and I have zero confidence in eth improving any of our players as he has not done that in 2 years. I also have a lack of confidence in his choice of player.
It's not a happy camp I see no relationship between him the players or the fans.
Let's see what sjr and team do jimbo and if those experts want a change you either support that or become a problem yourself.

25 Feb 2024 18:45:50
Sadly, and I have been supporting ETH until recently, he is not cutting it in my very humble misguided opinion. Certainly not enough to be entrusted with a rebuild.

Even Eric Clapton can get a tune out of the worst guitar.

ETH seems like me with a Fender in his hand. Sure every now and then he can put a tune together but it’s usually luck and doesn’t happen very often!

25 Feb 2024 19:04:25
No relationship between ETH and the fans? You should get to a game or two Ken. The fans very much back him. Internet fans are very different to local fans.

25 Feb 2024 19:08:02
I disagree with some of the above and also agree with other parts!
Think back to last season he turned some players into absolute quality, the imprint so many of them was clear! Shaw rashford awb to name a few!
This year it’s obviously been a struggle . I don’t get the impression it’s not a happy camp, if your gauging that off rashford demeanour then that’s unfair because he looks like he’d rather be anywhere but on the pitch ( next year hopefully he’s someone else problem)

But but
ETH has got to do better it’s as simple as that . I think we’ve been found out in a few areas but one example is midfield and from the wolves game in august up to yesterday the problem is still there . They get walked through! Knife through butter by any midfield with energy pace and power and unfortunately that’s most teams . That’s on the manager, it’s a tactical issue that needs tweaking but he’s yet to do it! I actually think Fred would be mainoo best partner out of our current selection but we sold him ( rightfully so ) but never upgraded the position!
That’s one example that bugs me . Yes it’s a mish mash of styles within the squad which isn’t easy but in that scenario make us hard to beat to give us a chance!
We’re far from it!

25 Feb 2024 19:26:01
The poll doesn't ask whether you WANT him replaced, but whether you think he will.

I don't want him replaced, I think if the club has the right set up then he'll do well.

However, I expect him to be replaced. It's pretty standard that when new owners come in that they want their own man who fits their vision.

What will be interesting is who will it be.

25 Feb 2024 20:10:36
Agree with that completely jimbob. But I would also say I am patient with the manager and the new set up. And the new signings and the youth. But my patience for the players who have been poor for 4 years in our senior team have used up all of my patience. We need to move them all out and build around our exciting young players.

25 Feb 2024 21:34:01
Agree 100% dodgy. Let's get rid of the players and backroom staff who offer nothing and have done for years. What remains will be the nucleus to move forward.

To clarify to others, I'm sure most of you are true fans, but the incessant whinging on here is hard to listen to sometimes. Mostly after a loss.

Listen, we are dire at the moment. But we are on a course.

Personally I think eth will remain in charge. There are too many other essential changes required, SJR needs someone to steady the ship through these times.

25 Feb 2024 23:41:24
Wazza are local match going fans any more important? I have tickets for every game I don't go anywhere near as often as I used to my lads go every other week one was there on Saturday and loves going. He cheers and sang but didn't enjoy the game and can see a managerial change.
I think fergie united the entire fan base as has pep and klopp and arteta and emery and Jose at Chelsea 1st time.
I like lots about eth most of us do I think. However I'm not convinced that he is the right coach for us.

25 Feb 2024 23:47:15
Shappy that's why I worded the question that way.
I was very much behind him and was on the fence a bit lately.
At one point my thought process was I would be disappointed if he was replaced but now I would not be.
But I have always thought he will be replaced.
The poll is asking what you think will happen not what you want to happen.
U think the results at time of writing are about where I thought they would be in fact I thought it would be more 50/ 50.

25 Feb 2024 06:44:06
Whilst he might not be available, nor willing to head to UTD, Davies from Bayern might be a good option to refresh our LB.

25 Feb 2024 10:02:36
I think he will end up at RM.

25 Feb 2024 12:56:58
I doubt we are shopping at Harrods with the big boys this summer, because those players simply won’t come.

Estupinian is a quality LB and seems ever so slightly out of favour with De Zerbi at the moment. I have no idea if we are interested but he’d add much needed energy and attacking threat.

25 Feb 2024 13:01:48
Bit of a position change that, Mad Hatter ;)

25 Feb 2024 15:14:20
I'm starting to think we might be better off signing a LB over a RB this summer.

Dalot looks like he could step up and possibly challenge for the role. While AWB could be kept for a season and allowed to leave to leave on a free in 2025 and we sign a RB then.

If Shaw and Malacia can stay fit then great, but we can't be sure either will be.

25 Feb 2024 16:06:03
Davies is not coming to United

Shaw can’t stay fit I’m not sure Malacia is good enough, AWB 100% not good enough, be easier to say who is good enough, but you have to play the hand your dealt and that’s where ETH lacks big time.

Poor team, Even poorer manager and awful coaching, don’t make for good reading, but least only about 10 more games of this crap.

25 Feb 2024 16:20:04
I’m not sure we to sign both. Dalot is not the answer but a fine understudy.

Frimpong and Dalot would be very good options.

LB - I’d give Amass minutes as see where he’s at this season. Sign a Left Footed CB who could potentially cover LB at a push. Shaw, Malacia and Amass should be fine in a normal season. And revaluate in 2025.

I question how much ETH training is affecting injuries and energy on pitch.

25 Feb 2024 16:43:20
Shaw has to be sold imo.

25 Feb 2024 17:48:48
yes i think we should sell everyone and buy some new shiny toys.

25 Feb 2024 18:31:15
That's not possible amad unfortunately. But Shaw won't be in our team by the time we are competing again that's for sure.
The sooner we get shut of these players the better.
Much like Liverpool and arsenal. Klopp had zero of the team he inherited before they competed. Arteta has zero of the team he inherited before competing. Same will bairn for our new coach except for the young kids from the academy and rasmus.
I could well be wrong but imo that's what will happen.
Happy to field your sarcasm until I'm proven wrong. There is no coming back for 90% of these players at this club. Same goes for the coach imo.
Watch yorkie change his tune as the tide turns he will follow the club narrative as he should.
If sjr and team back eth. So will i 100%.

25 Feb 2024 20:12:16
David Raum would be a good option at left back.

25 Feb 2024 20:16:15
Bang on. Most teams that reach the top are built, not inherited. Especially in the EPL. Ole was the best effort at taking the existing squad and giving them everything they wanted and trying to win with them.

We are in a full reset. And anyone thinking we should be competing during this phase is kidding themselves. 4th place this year would be remarkable - especially with injuries, yet people think EtH is failing. Madness.

26 Feb 2024 08:17:30
Tumble

Funny you say that. Got hammered on the golf course yesterday and yorkie was playing behind us in another 4 ball and we had our usual banter in the clubhouse. We actually don't agree on many things and have our differences.

He does not like the manager and blames him for not getting rid of quite a few players and blames our results on the players we have allowed to stick around. I agree with him on the poor quality of some of the squad but disagree its in eth hands completely.

He always refers to fergie and how he would force players out even to the point of sending them down to the reserves if he had to. Will not mention names but you can guess some of the players in the current squad.

I disagree with him because given where our finances are, no united manager can do that. People upstairs have made those decisions for a long time post Fergie.

Many of the players we have are difficult to shift and don't think some would even care one bit if they played for under 23's as long as the weekly check came in.

Only way to make substantial changes is to pay players off to go but our finances are so bad that's its not an option and hence we get a disjoined group that goes back to 3 or 4 managers.

I suspect many of the players will be here next year bar a few due to contracts expiring and a couple maybe getting sold if we can accept the minimal fees we will get comparative to what they have cost us no matter who is the manager. It will take time to revamp this squad and until then its painful to watch some of these games.

Look at Sancho have a stinker at Dortmund, Hanibal same at Sevilla, its not the manger as other managers can't get a tune out of some these players either and they all come back and hardly anyone gets sold post these loans.

Forrest away will be a horrible fixture and city the same. Buckle up and enjoy:)

24 Feb 2024 22:26:56
We’ve had two Dutch managers now - and it hasn’t been good by either
I hoped to see a progressive style of play with us comfortable on the ball but it’s down to individuals
I can’t imagine ETH being in post next season but we’ve had lots of managers and little progress - does anyone know why?

25 Feb 2024 01:37:52
The whole club is a mess, the recruitment including the recruitment of the manager has been a joke for years.

25 Feb 2024 07:55:46
What does nationality have to do with it?

That’s like saying SAF and David Moyes are the same no?

25 Feb 2024 08:01:52
Gds2 that's true but I'm now 100% convinced eth is not the man to sort it and I'm 100% convinced that he won't be given the opportunity after this summer.

25 Feb 2024 08:53:45
I'll be surprised if he makes it to summer! I like to think I'm always behind players and manager, but we just aren't progressing atm. The thing that worries me more than anything is who will replace him? Managers are like strikers atm, not that many good ones about .

25 Feb 2024 13:26:07
Nice enough fella but not good enough for United. Again, I don't know who would be but if you imagine a room with SJR/ NEW CEO/ Brailsford/ dan Ashworth on one side of a desk and ETH on the other being appraised for his last 2 years would they be impressed enough to give him a new contract? I think not.

25 Feb 2024 12:55:51
It's hard not to overreact after a defeat. It's a frustrating team to support. We beat Villa and Spurs lose, gaining ground on both, then the week later lose a cheap game against a side assembled much cheaper than ours (without Palinha even playing) who should have won a lot easier than they eventually did.
The manager insists he was pleased with the character we showed and that we're on the right track. He has to say those things but they're hard to go along with.
I'd like to think it was purely down to the mess that saw us forced to play Rashford through the middle again, a tactic that hasn't given any joy all season, simply as there was no other alternative. I hear the calls to play McT or even Diallo there and personally think he did the only thing he could. The bigger issue is the whole Martial saga, a player that's been more unavailable than available in his years with us. I don't even know what the injury is, if he's a flake, or is just happy to watch from the sides and pick up his dosh. He doesn't strike me as a player busting a gut to get fit and play a part. Even then when he is fit he's not made an impact for ages.
Yet Liverpool, City and Arsenal have all lost their main striker this season and are still all fighting it out at the top.
There are much 'lesser' sides assembled much cheaper who are more enjoyable to watch and you know what you're going to get each week. With Utd it's like a lucky dip, and the wins are usually by the skin of their teeth.
Unless we get some form of European football I don't see how the manager stays, with all the other changes being made around him. It may well be viewed that the next manager just gets another patchwork quilt with yet another assortment of players to blend but I guess all managers are in the same boat in that regard. I guess Onana, Martinez and Hojlund are here for the long haul but not so sure about Antony/ Eriksen/ Malacia.
Massive few months ahead and we had been on a nice run. Just a bit frustrating that the games we'd expect to win can't ever be counted on which is the nature of the Prem.

25 Feb 2024 14:40:26
Glad people are finally coming round to the fact ETH is not good enough….

But did I just read it right not many good managers about atm.
Nagglesman
Flick
Zidane
Tuchel will be
Conte
Jose
Potter
Low
Xavi

That’s just the ones who are out of work atm, so if we want none of them there will be the ones they replace!

25 Feb 2024 15:14:05
Quite a few of those managers are deemed (and have proved) to be quite difficult characters. But suppose it doesn't always need to be a problem if they're doing a good job. Would be interested in what Nagglesman does next but obviously Bayern didn't like something about the way he went about things. But please not Potter, nice guy I'm sure but I don't feel he's able to step up as he's proved.

25 Feb 2024 15:56:41
Bayern is difficult to manage as us, always under spotlight in Germany and lots of interference from directors, ex players, etc…. So would not put much on that.

That’s without Southgate even being on that list which is most worrying.

Potter not for me either, but I am not sure it’s been proved he is no good, you can’t take Chelsea fiasco into it.

25 Feb 2024 16:21:16
Dutch people can come off very direct in my opinion, not always the best cultural fit.

25 Feb 2024 16:45:34
It's a big blot on his copy book and he would not be my choice. But frankly all of our opinions are irrelevant when it comes to choosing.

25 Feb 2024 18:09:04
The grass is always greener fellas.

26 Feb 2024 07:10:02
Isn't Nagelsmann Germany coach until the end of the Euros? Tuchel might be a good manager, but I think he is more suited to the continent that the Premier League, the others on the list feel like yesterday's men, like including Sparky and Bruce.

The only other option is to look at the next generation of managers like Alonso, Amorim, de Zerbi or even Farioli, but that can be still hit and hope and probably for the moment best to stick with EtH, it is just one bad season after all.

Cheick Doucoure

24 Feb 2024 19:44:20
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, Cheick Doucoure

24 Feb 2024 20:56:54
A good profile ED001.

{Ed001's Note - thank you MH.}

25 Feb 2024 01:44:34
Thanks Ed. Good read.

{Ed001's Note - thank you BRD.}

23 Feb 2024 14:41:04
Throw Scott up top with Hojlund out, he is big strong physical, he can hold up the ball and score a goal, might be a better option than Rashford and we can play same way?,

23 Feb 2024 14:51:22
I agree. Fulham and Forest in the cup next, you’d hope enough fire power in the team to win those two games with McTominay doing that role.

23 Feb 2024 17:14:02
I actually really like this idea!

23 Feb 2024 18:14:01
Hojlund is such a big loss and at a time when a little momentum was building.

I agree with putting Scott up top, and leaving Rashford and Garnacho where they are. McTominay used to be a striker and he’s not afraid of putting some yards in. Put Rashford up top and we have to drop 15 yards because he doesn’t know how to press.

23 Feb 2024 19:40:40
I prefer a 1 for 1 swap.
The less changes to shape the better.
I read recently that amad was being considered for a central role.
But I do think it will be mctom.
But we do know how eth is a big Antony fan so he might get another opportunity to play.
No recognised lb and no recognised striker it will be tough day. Great opportunity for others to step up.

23 Feb 2024 21:11:15
Surely we will see rashford upfront, then bring in anthony, amad or perhaps mount is returning?

24 Feb 2024 00:14:08
Great idea, always see him as a striker if anything. His movement and positioning is superb. He almost gets in the way of Rasmus sometimes. He has the physical presence and could be a threat. Only my opinion.

24 Feb 2024 06:13:06
Forson potentially then limited disruption elsewhere.

24 Feb 2024 08:22:57
How many minutes has Antony had recently Ken? But you still use it as a stick to beat the manager. Move on.

24 Feb 2024 08:57:33
I think the important thing is to try and have minimum disruption to the set up. McTominay makes sense for me with Rashford Left and Garnacho Right. But if Antony was to play and you can see it happening, I’d be inclined to throw him in through the middle and just tell him to be busy and get shots off. I just don’t think Rashford offers anything through the middle and attitude wise I don’t think he seems like he wants to.

24 Feb 2024 09:20:36
McTominay has never been a striker, even in the academy. He himself said that he only played one game as a striker and didn't understand why people were saying he used to be one.

I'd stick Rashford upfront and bring on either Forson or Amad on the right.

24 Feb 2024 10:09:30
Given Shaw’s injury record and the uncertainty of Malacia’s return date why did we get rid of Sergio Reguilion?
Make as few changes as poss, which means play McTom upfront.

24 Feb 2024 10:16:03
I stand corrected Unruly, I thought it was common knowledge but obviously not.

In that case it would be nice to see Forson given a chance.

We are facing an indifferent Fulham side, at home. It’s not a bad fixture to give a youngster their first start.

24 Feb 2024 10:59:03
Wazza a stick to beat the manager. What are you talking about. I've never once tried any stick to beat the manager. Never once have I ever tried to 'beat ' the manager.

24 Feb 2024 10:59:20
It's just one of those things people say Wazza. I agree that Fulham aren't in their best form and it's an opportunity for others to stake a claim. Maybe even try playing with Bruno as a false 9 with McTominay in midfield.

24 Feb 2024 11:01:35
Mctim imo possess nine of and has never shown any of the attributes a striker requires to play up front.
He never was a cf a a youth to best of my knowledge.

24 Feb 2024 12:42:16
If it's anything other than Garnacho / Rashford / Antony I'll eat my hat!

24 Feb 2024 12:58:24
I think having mctominay isn't a bad shout or play mctominay in the 10 and bruno as a false 9.

24 Feb 2024 14:05:21
Trust in the youth. ?? even our own fans wanted a square peg in a round hole and didn't want to trust the youth.

24 Feb 2024 14:10:09
Well done Chris!

24 Feb 2024 17:29:57
Ken

“But we do know how eth is a big Antony fan”

Antony hasn’t started for weeks, and didn’t start today either. So you’re obviously talking nonsense if you think ETH is an Antony fanboy.

But don’t let the facts get in the way of your opinion.

25 Feb 2024 01:39:22
So Forson and change the whole front 3 around, absolute joke, ETH needs to go with Rashford, let’s start again.

25 Feb 2024 08:05:22
Wazza here are the facts eth is an Antony fan. Yes he's been out of the team and was even yesterday but he is an Antony fan.
Now I'll slate the manager.
He won't be here next season and nor sh I understand he be.
I'm not calling for him to be fired now. But I think he should be come the summer. He is not coaching this team well at all imo and the players are going backwards under him. This season. Every single one of them.

25 Feb 2024 10:42:16
“Here’s the facts” yet you go on to state your opinion.

As you tell others Ken: you don’t know anything about it.

Again all opinions and hot air. Are Mainoo, Garnacho and Hojlund going backwards? I don’t think so. But that is just my opinion. I have nothing to measure it against, and nor do you.

I’m still of the opinion that we have many players that need to go before the manager. It’s like Groundhog Day with these players. They eventually down tools and the manager is sacrificed. It’s no coincidence that Ole lasted longer than most, as he had such low standards himself and the players got away with it under him, because he wanted to be their mate. Managers with higher standards who demand more from the players are eventually moved on.

So who comes in next? Tuchel if he leaves Bayern? Isn’t he another disciplinarian that this same group of players will eventually throw under the bus?

25 Feb 2024 13:36:27
Eazza it's not my opinion wth is an Antony fan it's fact. He signed him for united and ajax no doubt he is a fan spoke glowing about him yesterday.
The test is my opinion. I'm not an expert at all but my opinion is he won't be here next season.
Let's see who the experts agree with. You or me.
I'd wager heavily I'll be right. If you fancy a bet.

25 Feb 2024 13:40:47
The elects I like about eth is his discipline.
No garnacjo has not improved 1 iota since coming in last season imo.
Mainoo has not improved either but it's too short a time.
Rasmus too short a time.
I believe if he has them long enough he might not improve them at all.
Rasmus was making the same runs 6 months ago you said so yourself.
You have your opinion I've mine let's see who's opinion turns out to be hot air in the summer.

25 Feb 2024 13:47:32
Not sure at all who comes in next. I'll leave that to the experts. Whomever it is like eth will get my full support until it becomes as obvious as now that we are going backwards.
Results are worse than last season
We are scoring less goals
Conceefing more
Getting less points
Doing worse in cup comps
Spent a fortune in Summer again
Playing players badly out of form.
Awful to watch
No obvious style of play.
Lost a record no of epl games.
Players defy him publicly and he does nothing .
They defy him on the pitch ( he has said it himself)
Not 1 player has improved under him.
I don't care who the manager is and I won't prejudge any of them.
Judge them in what they do and eth is not doing anything I like to see.
In the end I think you will also want him fine. He is in the slippery slot and they're is no coming back from it.
Let's see who is talking hot air.

25 Feb 2024 17:31:56
Ken that was a very swift change of subject.

Nobody here is disagreeing about ETH not being here next season. Seems you’ve got into a little argument with yourself on this thread ?.

 


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