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Review Of The Day 3rd October 2018

03 Oct 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 3rd October 2018

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03 Oct 2018 03:22:40
So, doing the rounds on the world wide wait is the trully scary report via some italian bloggers (hot of the press from their contacts in the italian media! ) that along with 'zizi', a name being mumbled about is none other than antonio conte! (i think i got that first vowel right? ), yes, that kind hearted, open-minded, easy going, player sympathetic listener himself is being mentioned in dispatches, talk about spite on contes' side! -i still say bring in wenger, and have hoddle working alongside, with gary neville overseeing defensive duties, if the choice is that or conte, surely its a no-brainer? -and one side note, i reckon wenger would get a tune out of pogba and martial, not to mention more of a chance attracting french and european players to come to united for footballing reasons rather than bounty hunters (and yes, other brands of confectionary are available) -and for those who say not wenger-ex-gonner etc, the same should have applied when mourinho joined then, being ex-chavski, and all the times he slated this club., at least with wenger the style of football would be half decent.

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03 Oct 2018 06:42:09
I don’t know where to start. Wenger was a great Manager and might have been a good fit ten years ago. Not sure what makes you think Hoddle will offer anything, he has been out of the game for a very long time. As for Neville, being a pundit on Tv does not make you a great coach.

03 Oct 2018 07:16:55
I’d give Eddie Howe a go. A risk granted, but young, hungry . British manager getting a small club like Bournemouth playing some lovely attacking football on a shoe string budget. At least he wants to play football the right way.

03 Oct 2018 08:07:18
Keep Jose and bring in a new assistant manager because this one isn't up to the task . Send for Roy Keane that will stop all the whingeing 😆😆.

03 Oct 2018 08:16:45
I'm with you Stand. I don't believe it's too big a risk with Howe, as you say plays football the right way, and I doubt you would have to pay him the silly money we are paying Jose or would have to pay Zidane.

03 Oct 2018 08:20:35
Stand have you watched much of Bournmouth's fast attacking football.
They play with 10 or 11 men behind the ball for the majority of games have less possession than the opposition just about every week.
They don't play from the back and they are dire to watch.
He has a very big budget and none of his players are being chased by better teams.
Not the right man at all for me he would be gone on 18 months imo.

03 Oct 2018 09:04:21
I said Wenger in the summer as a joke although he does tick a lot of the Woodward boxes. Free, used to working on a budget and signing young unknowns who can be sold on for a profit and can scrape 4th place. Doesn't mean i'd actually want to ser him though. And I think Woodward would be after a big name to cover his latest failed appointment.

03 Oct 2018 12:33:58
Just because a manager is free, that doesn't mean we should hire them. We should be looking for the best manager we can find, even if it costs us a transfer fee/ compensation. If and when we are looking for a manager, we should approach it no different to if we are looking for a player. Draw up a list of 5, ask everyone and get knocked back and then settle for what we have.

03 Oct 2018 00:10:56
Hi
i have a few questions that i hope t you can give us an insight into.
Its been well documented that the club abandoned a long term plan to appoint allegri after lvg and then appointed jose.
Jose then got an extention untill 2020 and promoted mckenna and carrick this season.
So my question is do the club have another long term plan to replace jose in 2020 like they did to replace lvg in 2017?
Secondly is mckenna seen as a potential 1st team coach?
Thirdly or are the club looking for their potential DoF to put a new long term plan in placeand hoping that jose can provide enough until the DoF is appointed and puts his long term plan/ Vision in place?

In hindsight the old plan looks great now so if there is a long term plan that is worth pursuing and waiting for then i'd love to know what it is😁.
At the moment its a bit of a mess to be honest. Players talking to the media and through social media. The board mute. The manager being predictably unpredictable. Videos of training ground rows on social media. Jose picking fights he seemingly can't win. Pogba showing he has no class whatsoever off the pitch and showing not much more on it. Lots of players running out of contract and others with only another season. It looks all a bit amateurish andd not very secure.
Hope the questions are something you have an insight into.

{Ed002's Note - (1) The club would not put a long-term contract in place due to the toxic fanbase that they have. (2) No, they are noise, nothing else. (3) Yes and no. The club are working hard to find a suitable Director of Football and would love to see many years of success under Mr Mourinho. The Director of Football role will always be seen as medium to long term and certainly not short term so no overnight solution to the players or the fans will appear.

The old plan was great and was to see the club through to 2022. The fans ended any thought of that - as I explained at the time and since but all I see is whining from those telling me everything I said was rubbish, and everyone at the club lobes Mr Mourinho and he and his family are settled in Manchester and love it there.

I ope this helps Ken.}

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03 Oct 2018 07:40:22
Cheers ed.
I don't really understand what you mean in your response to Q2 tjat they are only noise?

{Ed002's Note - They are not going to be the head copach of MU.}

02 Oct 2018 17:45:46
Ed002 I remember seeing a response from yourself on the Liverpool page a while ago detailing a plan you would implement if you were in charge of the club in order to improve their fortunes. I was wondering if you could do something similar for United.

To the untrained and uninformed eye it looks like the owners have done a fantastic job of leveraging the commercial side of the club but there doesn't seem to be an obvious and cohesive plan to maintain the footballing side. Would you say that is a fair comment or are we all missing something obvious?

{Ed002's Note - The two points that arose out of that list which need to be addressed by Manchester United are:
(a) Get the Director of Football sorted out: Manchester United are continuing to try and address this.
(b) Wrest Power Back from the Players: Players at high profile teams (in particular in the Premier League and a few other individual players dotted around Europe) are not fully focussed on doing what they are employed to do, and in many cases are paid well to do. I would get someone in (a really knowledgeable football guy who can advise the club) and have them speak to each of the players to really understand where their focus is and where they want to be. I would also have a suitable advisor go right through all of the coaching staff and look at the methods of coaching. I would then get the players together and tell them that the club will be making addendums to their contracts requiring such things as responsible behaviour, not wearing flimsy designer football boots that offer little protection, wearing black boots only in games, responsible usage of social media, banning all at club visits by hairdressers and car salesmen, banning the use of all hair care products etc.. The players need to be controlled in any interviews and interviews, and any endorsements, should all be arranged through the club. Any players to which the club is making payments to third parties for such nonsense as image rights need to be moved on or the contracts amended at no penalty to the club. Then they need to be asked if they buy in to the club and these changes – if they don’t their agents can be told that the club is happy for them to find new employers for their charges.}

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02 Oct 2018 18:39:55
Er your not looking for a job are you ed? 🤣.

{Ed002's Note - Not for me I am afraid.}

02 Oct 2018 19:14:14
Lovely read Ed002, thanks. Old school and i like it👍🏻.

02 Oct 2018 19:24:21
Is point (b) what Mourinho is trying to do and why he's having so many fallings out?

{Ed002's Note - It would not really be his job to do that but I do know of managers and coaches who have taken it on themselves to do. The media you all seem to turn to so gleefully, certainly the British media, are easy to make the most of supposition and the slightest apparent issue and make a real big deal which then creates this stumbling behemoth which relentlessly tries to bring down certain clubs and certain head coaches. A side issue will soon come in to this that has been created by the amount of money in the English game and the wages paid to players - clubs are going to end up stuck with them.}

02 Oct 2018 19:29:20
I get the feeling that point B is a particular bug bare of yours. How likely (and easy) would such changes be to make? I agree by the way, some players are much more interested in their profile than their performances.

{Ed002's Note - I have beef with numerous issues in the game, particularly the modern English game and how clubs behave. Manchester United are much weaker as a club than they were but I would imagine Alex Ferguson would not have allowed the players to maneuver themselves in to the position they are in. Mistakes have been made with the likes of Ibrahimovic and Depay, baggage that came with Rojo and Pogba was accepted, money spent on Schweinsteiger needlessly, massively over paying for the likes of Martial and so on. Some players are bright, sensible and responsible - Mata is the best example at Old Trafford. But many are boneheads who need to be shocked in to earning their keep - and some need to go. But that can be tough given the wages paid to the likes of Sanchez and Pogba - both of which need to be moved on.}

02 Oct 2018 19:37:10
Great read Ed thank you very much.

02 Oct 2018 19:48:06
Hi ed002. Really good points. i'm glad to see your views on player power and some of the responsibilities some of which they continually flaunt and ignore.
This squad has too many players that don't do what they are paid to do.
Im not just making excuses for the manager who is also very much to blame for our form.

{Ed002's Note - Some clubs do make it absolutely clear that the players are expected to behave responsibly and make sure that they do. Some players simply cannot behave in a way that they will not cause embarrassment to their club - Balotelli, Suarez, Pogba are examples. The squad needs work on it at MU and that is why it is important to get the right Director of Football on board.}

02 Oct 2018 19:50:47
Great post Ed and agree completely with your point of view.

I don’t want to go on just bashing the players and agents but I do feel that the balance of power needs addressing and clubs need to set standards and policies.

02 Oct 2018 20:02:55
Ed002, great post and a brilliant insight into where the club stands at present. Weak management, questionable transfer policies. Lowering of standards. All points some of us have been harping on.
Change has to happen and happen correctly and fast.

02 Oct 2018 20:09:00
Great post ED002. what's your opinion on the Glazers.
Are they a good fit for the club?

{Ed002's Note - They are the owners and are really not intrusive on the footballing side. They, like all owners, want success.}

02 Oct 2018 20:31:01
Thanks for the info Ed. Are we any closer to a DOF, and perhaps more importantly are we looking at the right people in your opinion?

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any agreement, so the club is no closer. The club has been considering folks who would work well with Mr Mourinho and they are good options.}

02 Oct 2018 21:00:44
If i could ask Ed002, could you possibly give one name, one who is attainable, that Utd could/ should appoint for the director of football role?

{Ed002's Note - I can provide names but as to whether or not they are attainable or not is a different matter. The two original candidates that were approached are Andrea Berta and Luis Campos. I previously named a wildcard option from Juventus who might just be available (but that may not be clear for a little over three weeks and right now I think I understand well what will happen there), Fabio Paratici.

However, if he were available then for me Rui Costa would be the best solution.}

02 Oct 2018 21:25:14
Great feedback and analysis, as ever Ed. Thank you.

02 Oct 2018 22:39:22
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{Ed002's Note - It was indeed "The Schnörk", thanks.}

02 Oct 2018 22:46:49
Ed 02 your thoughts are much appreciated. Are there similar models at eg City and Bayern? Also if all or most of your suggestions are actually adopted and eg Pogba and Sanchez go then surely other top players will look at the rest of the team and see it is very light quality wise and prefer to go to our rivals. If that is so it is going to mean we may have to accept several years of mediocrity and rebuild.

{Ed002's Note - Manchester City has owners who impress the importance of morals and community on the staff. When the club became embroiled in an issue surrounding youngsters they were most unhappy. Many European sides do not have the same issues with players but they generally have expectations that players do not draw embarrassment to the club. Italy seems more like England - they have a number of DFs as players as well.}

02 Oct 2018 23:04:56
Thank you Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

02 Oct 2018 23:31:00
Great read 002, love learning about the other side of football.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks - it is a huge undertaking to try and keep everything in order player wise. For too long a number of English sides have pampered players at the highest level - the pain will come when they see how difficult it is to sell players who are earning much more than their counterparts.}

02 Oct 2018 23:55:08
You mentioned Pogba and Sanchez need to be moved on. Pogba seems fairly obvious given his baggage, attitude an that he doesn't want to be here. But is there an issue with Sanchez? Also who else would you say should be moved on?

{Ed002's Note - Sanchez was a major mistake and it is compounded by the wages which would make a move difficult. It hasn’t worked out, but what can the club do with him?}

03 Oct 2018 07:49:36
Ed002, thanks again. I read a statement from Agnelli that Paratici will be given the role of ‘Head of Sports Arena’? Also did Campos used to work with JM at Madrid?

{Ed002's Note - What I suspect will happen at Juventus is that (a) Fabio Paratici will become CEO and General Manager for Sport, (b) Zinedine Zidane will become Director of Football, (c) a new high-end negotiator will be added.

Former Real Madrid technical scout Luis Campos was previously approached by Everton and Manchester United to take charge of recruitment in a senior Director of Football role and declined. He spent time at Monaco and is now at Lille but there has been no recent approach by Manchester United although there was a discussion with another side.}

03 Oct 2018 10:31:28
Thanks again Ed002. Definitely makes more sense for ZZ to return to Juventus. Have a good day.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks.}

03 Oct 2018 10:38:20
Oh final question Ed002 if ok please? How much of a role does Matthew Judge have at MUFC? Is he the one who has overseen the players wages/ contracts?

{Ed002's Note - Are you looking for someone else to try and blame. He is effectively an assistant to Woodward.}

03 Oct 2018 11:01:43
Sorry Ed, had read a report describing his role. Thanks again for explaining and won’t trouble you again today :-)

02 Oct 2018 16:24:47
Watching the U19’s on tv at the moment. Thrashing Valencia. Fast, attacking, flowing football 👌🏽.

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02 Oct 2018 16:27:51
Its to be expected, he's getting old and its 11 v 1.

02 Oct 2018 16:53:46
Play great football. Hard to judge as 1 team can be on several levels above another. Anyway how about Carrick an Butt till the end of the season? Can't do any worse?

02 Oct 2018 15:27:39
Imagine if (and its a big if) we appointed Zidane.

"Right Mr Woodward to sort this midfield out I need a certain German playmaker. "

"No problem leave it to me. "

3 months of hardball negotiation later its deadline day.

"Mr Woodward I did not mean Pascal Gross. ".

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02 Oct 2018 15:40:26
Funny and yet still a likely scenario.

On a side note Gross isn't too shabby.

02 Oct 2018 16:43:16
More like

"Right Mr Woodward to sort this midfield out I need a certain German playmaker. "

"No problem leave it to me. ”

*flips through his executive Rolodex*

“There you are Mr Schweinstager! ”.

{Ed007's Note -

02 Oct 2018 17:00:51
The funny thing is mort any new manager will need the same 5 or 6 players that jose was denied.
No manager is suddenly going to make jones valencia young darmian fellaini rojo mata herrera etc into players good enough to sustain a title challenge.

02 Oct 2018 17:30:18
Yes Ken I said the other day whoever comes in needs to clear out a lot of this squad. Some just aren't good enough and some are just trouble makers. And that's before bringing 5-6 players to sort out the issues. I just think that Jose was denied his players because Woodward looked at the ages of William an alderweireld and the costs and backed out. Hopefully we go back in for toby once that clause kicks in an the price drops. The biggest problem in this team is that we need a leader.

02 Oct 2018 17:49:47
maybe a new manager would bring a more entertaining style of play, more confidence to the players.

you can tell most of the players are that depressed at his negative ways they are afraid to do anything wrong, all jose does is bring them down.

02 Oct 2018 17:53:04
Exactly. This squad has been devoid of leaders for too long and it has led to the rot we have now. Until Woodard realizes you can't just have a team of youngsters with sell on value playing at a level of consistency to match the level of Manchester United, we will continue to see these problems. You need the right blend of experience and youth being led in the right way.

02 Oct 2018 18:35:35
Ill nail my colours to the mast now and the guy i would like to see takeover when jose leaves is kieran mckenna.

03 Oct 2018 01:38:36
That's funny Bond :D.

02 Oct 2018 13:59:31
Got a text from MUFC yesterday offering tickets for tonights game, it even said they were available from the ticket office. OT used to be a sell out for games, now they are available easily. Is it because its a tuesday night game or are fans just not bothered watching the boring football?

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02 Oct 2018 14:28:59
They haven't text me yet mate, would be surprised if there were a lot of empty seats, might just be a lot of people lining up at the ticket office. Evening kick offs shouldn't affect the attendance, had these types of games for years, the football isn't great but it'd be all of a sudden for people to stop coming, compared to last game.

02 Oct 2018 15:29:34
Scholes, i found it strange. Its def from them as i have other messages.

02 Oct 2018 15:50:12
I got the same via email, was surprised too.

02 Oct 2018 15:54:32
It is from them, its in the fail today, plus i got emails yesterday.

Its a shambles on the pitch why would people go? that's the reason i wouldn't go.

02 Oct 2018 16:20:40
I took three of my kids to about 8 games last year, tickets, coach and food etc meant approx £120 a game. that's the best part of £1000 and most games were crap. There needs to be a serious turnaround in the playing style for me to warrant that much a game this season.

02 Oct 2018 20:05:25
I tried to give my ticket free as I'm out of the country, no one wanted it.

02 Oct 2018 11:59:22
Firstly, get well soon Ken. I'm sure you're very proud of your son. Puts everything in to perspective really.

A quick note on tonight's game. I just want to see an attacking performance, obviously a win would be great but to me an attacking performance is the most important. How times have changed.

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02 Oct 2018 07:28:25
Liverpool fan here.

Firstly ken really glad you are ok.

Puts football into petspective.

I have waited 30 years for there to be a crisis at united.

I really thought i would love it.

But it just don't feel right and definately not the united way. Then again mourinho is not your typical united manager.

The league need a strong united. Liverpool need a strong united.

I think you got to get rid of pogba and mourinho.

Sacrifise the season as united are way way bigger than just one season. If any team bounces back its united.

And as a replacement.

Go and gets wolves nuno santo as he typifies united or pochetino from spurs.

You will be back competing at the top withn a year.

And some of us liverpool will be ruing the day mourinho left. A bit like when rafa benitez left liverpool i suppose.

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02 Oct 2018 09:09:19
Good post mate and I agree with everything you have said.

02 Oct 2018 09:56:48
Hi Ravi, nice sentiment throughout your post, I agree, a string Liverpool and a strong united would be great, we seem to miss each other’s strong times tho. Also agree on Poch and Nuno, someone akin with our traditions.

02 Oct 2018 10:42:20
I can't see Levy allowing Poch to leave if Mourinho is sacked.
Dealing with Levy is dealing with the devil.
3 season syndrome is here. Always happens with Mourinho.
I feel like he's buold a new Chelsea.
Big strong players.
Yawn, its boring.

02 Oct 2018 11:23:33
Disagree when people say he is unattainable. Any manager in the world is gettable if you throw enough money around which we have done many a time on bang average players.

02 Oct 2018 11:39:15
Your clearly not from Liverpool Ravi, as us scousers are absolutely loving what's happening at united, and that's exactly how it should be football rivalry and City rivalry are intrinsically linked and tribal. This faux sympathy for them is what I don't get, it won't last much longer because they will get rid of him soon and with the players they have they'll be up near the top by the end of the season so enjoy it while it's happening, you would this K they were bottom 15 points adrift or something, they are more than capable of putting four straight wins together then bang their right back in the mix.

02 Oct 2018 13:29:18
Interesting you should say that, Waro, but one of my Chelsea fan friends was also bemoaning this pale imitation of a United team, though I'm sure he was relishing our misery too.

02 Oct 2018 16:07:39
Beating a rival when their down is fun for a while, but nothing beats beating them when they are playing well.

One of my favourite seasons was the 08/ 09 season. Not only did we have a great team, but for a long time Liverpool looked like they might win the league. Being the team to deny them was so much more enjoyable then beating Arsenal or Chelsea to the title. Because of the rivalry it means so much more.

So I understand that some Liverpool fans would rather beat us at our best than at a low ebb.

02 Oct 2018 16:03:11
Shaw I think everyone is loving it mate. Been boss since pre season.

02 Oct 2018 18:41:39
Scouse john. The only thing better than liverpool losing for me is liverpool nearly winning but then losing so in that regard i think ill be quite happy come the end of the season😂😂
Your right to wallow in our misery but if you win nothing its not much to brag about.
When you do win ill be the 1st over to say well done but i'm pretty confidant that that will not be this season.

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02 Oct 2018 07:29:01
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