Manchester United Rumours Archive December 02 2018

02 Dec 2018 17:52:07
I've been a Manchester United Supporter for 47 years, they won't sack Jose until it's Mathematically impossible for us to get into the top 4, as we then lose lots of money from our Sponsors, until then we will all have to suffer this dreadful brand of Football, I know it's No comfort to hear this, but it's my Opinion and that is what this site is all about.

02 Dec 2018 23:10:55
i never understood why they wait for it to mathematically be impossible to sack the manager. why not do it earlier so you can guarantee a place in top 4. unless they've accepted we won't get it this year.

03 Dec 2018 06:44:52
I'd assume that once it's guaranteed we won't get Top 4, we can let him go without paying as much compensation?

Eds, any insight into the structure of his contract extension and when it might become cheaper to move on?

{Ed025's Note - not at this time mate..

03 Dec 2018 08:51:37
IM7, I would imagine it’s so they have grounds to cancel/ payout the contract. I would assume there are a number of Key Performance Indicators written in with top 4 being one of them. The managers contract is a contract of employment (fixed term) and he will be covered by the same legal rights as anyone else in the country.

03 Dec 2018 10:28:17
Do you think they have done a cost analysis, Sacking Jose early v missing out on Champions League, which would lose more money?

03 Dec 2018 13:01:42
They will have for sure. But it's hard to factor in things like future sponsorship, future signings (ie targets want more money if not in CL or say no when they would have said yes) .

I'm sure we are hemorrhaging viewers on TV across the world, that has to have a knock on effect. Takes a lifetime to build a reputation, a few years of LVG and Jose to virtually destroy it.

People are selfish. Woody will not look good sacking yet another manager (so soon after handing him a ridiculous new deal) and failing to secure top 4. Everyone will be looking out for their own personal best interests right now rather than the club or the fans.

In a decent/ honest world. Jose would have packed his bags long ago but he wants money, Woody would have admitted his mistake long ago, but he wants money. The club would have realised we are losing our soul, but they want money. The players would have upped their game, but irrespective of performance they earn and want money.

Most players nowadays know they will earn more by forcing a move than they would by doing their job. Little morals and honour left in the game now at the top end unfortunately.

I wish we could just rip out all the poison surrounding the club and just build it back from the solid foundations we have, but the world doesn't work like that. Just like in the real world with empires, they get too big, too selfish, to greedy and ultimately the empire dies and is reborn as something else. We have bad apples throughout the club, directors, management, players - we need to cull it all before it's too late.

03 Dec 2018 23:10:39
Who does the culling if those making the decisions are bad apples?

02 Dec 2018 17:46:30
Assuming the rumours are true, if you believe your £90m transfer is playing with inadequate effort and/ or a poor mentality, a dressing down in the changing room in front of team mates is perfectly reasonable. I bet every one of us who have played sports have at some time or other have heard it from a coach or a colleague. Grow up and knuckle down. Most of the kids who watch you would kill for a chance at 1/ 10th of the benefits your innate talent has brought you.

The fact is Pogba is a disappointment. While he covers a fair amount of ground within a team that consistently covers the least in the EPL, he rarely sprints, neither in offence or defence. This characteristic was visible when he first stepped on the field in a United jersey before he went to Juventus. He looks lackadaisical, and it's probably one of the reasons why Ferguson was not inclined to fight to keep him. The problem is that, while he has talent, he is way to into himself to be a true leader, and that's the key role we need him to fill. A player who leads by example.

We are 5 years into the post-Fergie era and we are worse than ever. We do have some good players to build a team around but it's hard to see anything positive coming from them in the current climate. Given the amount of money we've spent, the only conclusion we can draw is that we are infected by a virus. Whether the source is Pogba, Mourinho or the general club mentality itself is a matter of conjecture. My own sense is that Woodward, Mourinho and Pogba are all symptoms of a deeper problem.

02 Dec 2018 21:07:06
All 3 of them should go at the end of the season.

We should say thanks Jose but uts not worked ta-ra. Says Pogba but you want to go to Spain so here's the asking price. And Woodward should have the decency to say "it was my decision to appoint Jose so I'll step down. "

03 Dec 2018 06:49:20
Fergie did want to keep Pogba, it was out of his hands. and while you might think Pogba has been disappointing his season, so has Lukaku, Rashford, Martial (most of the time), Bailly, Fred, Matic. who hasn't been disappointing? People might point to Shaw, but he hasn't gotten back to the 2-way beast he was looking like before his injury either.

I think when that many players aren't performing you have to look at the manager. And it's not like Mourinho's faults have been hard to see. Bizarre team selections and subs, consistently embarrassing behaviour, publicly sledging players all the time and bemoaning a lack of signings.

He's got to go. He's not one of us and he never will be.