Manchester United Rumours Archive August 03 2012

 

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03 Aug 2012 22:55:50
I find it very hard to understand how a player (sahin) that cost £8m and spent most of the season on the bench has managed to more than double his value to £18+. I'm not saying he isn't good and I'd love to see him at OT but, it's ridiculous if true that RM would expect in the region of £20m for him

JaZz

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He was in the last year of his contract when he signed for madrid

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So is RVP now and he's at the back end of his career but, that doesn't seem to be effecting his valuation

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Bid 12m _ 15 m max he for me is an upmarket carrick

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That is why he was only 8m but the guys got a point...

Andyred

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Irrespective of appearances its apparent what in this climate you could easily quote for the player. Plus its Real Madrid.....we just got Kagawa for 12million which was great because of his contract situation. He is easily a 25millon player at least.......so

lewis.no.9

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If being in his last year of contract was the only reason then that would mean kagawa would technically be valued at around 38 million.

Tomr

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03 Aug 2012 21:11:09
If Nani to Madrid is possible and true... Wouldn't mind a deal of close to £25 million + Nuri Sahin.

fearny

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I do not think wed get anywhere near that i think Sahin's value is so variable its mad Madrid will probably want 15million for him sand Nani is worth approx 30million i think so maybe 15million and Sahin or Khedira.

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Think you're going to be disappointed fearny. Sahin is off to Arsenal

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Its not confirmed to arsenal sahin may want a permanent move now and linking up with kagawa and lewandowski in12 month if ya believe the rumours! 23m max for nani id say

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Seriously so 25 mil plus Sahins worth of around 18mil so 43 mil for nani. Maybe a straight swap deal would be more viable

DJA

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03 Aug 2012 20:07:49
Sao Paulo vice-president Joao Paulo de Jesus Lopes has denied reports they have agreed any deal with Inter Milan over the transfer of Lucas Moura.

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03 Aug 2012 19:34:48
Sir Alex Ferguson to make an 18million pound bid for Real Madrid midfielder Nuri Sahin as Mourinho has said the player is FREE to leave to LEAVE this summer

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He's only free to leave on loan with arsenal in pole position to sign him

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03 Aug 2012 19:54:07
Marco Branca, the technical director Inter Milan sent to Brazil, returned today and there are no announced plans for him to return. Manchester United are thought to still have representatives in the country and Sao Paulo vice president, Jesus Lopes, was quoted earlier by Lancenet as saying "I was with Juvenal yesterday (Wednesday) and today (Thursday). Just to sit down to negotiate with Manchester, but we were not satisfied with the amounts."

THE SHINING KNIGHT

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03 Aug 2012 18:39:15
Is anyone else wondering why United haven't made a bid yet for Izaguirre?
James. {Ed007's Note - Martin Ferguson was at the CFC v HJK match on Wednesday night, the press are reporting it was to look at Wanyama but I'm not convinced.}

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Ed07.. you can not see us putting in a cheeky bid for both then ?

oxred {Ed007's Note - As much as I would like it to happenI doubt it mate, I can handle CFC players taking a wee sideway step to sign for Utd. Arsenal are ready to bid for Wanyama and nobody has approached the club officially over Izaguirre.}

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But with Fabio going out on loan for a season (who Fergie still has high hopes for) will he buy someone to challenge the aging and seemingly more inconsistent Evra! I hope he does plump for Izzy, Seen him play and i think he is better defensively than Evra, Positionally and Work Rate. I know there is a month left in the transfer window but I assumed Fergie would move fast to get this deal done.
P.S Would like to see Wanyama at United also as i believe he could fulfill his potential and become World Class!
James.

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Might be both players

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Fergie don't like buying africans because of the cup of nations

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03 Aug 2012 19:19:07
Anders Lindegaard has signed a new four-year deal, great news!

Tommy

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Its great news but going to be great competition for goalkeeper, not sure if that will be great! One of them great prospects will spend alot of time on the bench, hope De Gea and Lindegaard are prepared for a long difficult rivalry :)
- Newton Heath

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Lindegaard will push on and prove he is a quality keep er that we got for peanuts! downside is the de gea is an expensive no.2.

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03 Aug 2012 17:43:42
Have Manchester United been in contact with Madrid regarding Nuri Sahin? Given Sir Alex's relatively good relationship with Mourinho would we stand a better chance of signing him? I think given he has played alongside Kagawa in his Dortmund days he could be a real coup - especially on a loan.

Adz

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Unfortunately managers relationships don't get better deals. They only make it easier in mutually attractive deals between teams. I.e loan signings.

Dan

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They may not get better deals but at least a chance exists, it's nonsense to suggest good relations don't help - look at all the ex united players at Sunderland !

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Sahin would be ideal, both talent and price-wise. I dont think that excuses not finishing moves for Lucas or RVP, but it is a position that was going to need reinforcement (beyond Powell and Petrucci) after this season anyways. Take him on loan, with a set amount for a full transfer, give him a year with scholes alongside and then determine if he's worth the money as a replacement. Ironically, United could look like Dortmund from two years ago. Kagawa, Sahin, reported interest in Lewandowski, Goetze, Hummels, etc. What a quality squad that was/is.....-KG

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03 Aug 2012 16:30:39
Ed2- do you we will sign Moura or do think it will be a nearly 1 again!

PBMUFC {Ed002's Note - The situation with Lucas Moura is very complicated and it could drag out all summer and come to nothing. Chelsea made two bids earlier in the year and Inter also ma de a bid in January. Real Madrid looked to a deal involving another player going in exchange but that came to nothing. His agent would prefer a part ownership deal with Inter. Manchester United remain interested in the player but probably not at a price that is acceptable to Sao Paulo as we have seen. Inter have made a further bid and will return with a player plus cash option (although Coutinho has stated he does not want to be included in the deal). Anzhi have made one bid but Iam told the player would never agree a move to Moscow (where their players are based). I would not discount any of the clubs, nor would I discount him staying until the end of the year and discussions starting again in January. The feeling from someone in Brazil is that he thinks that Manchester United will probably not make any further offer for Lucas Moura as they feel they have already bid to the best value of the player. He cannot be certain there will be no higher bids but he can be certain that if there are then the club would be paying over the odds for the player. Chelsea ended up in the same position.

Furthermore, there were discussions in Colorado in mid July which he was involved with surrounded a part ownership deal that would see the player move to Italy for two years at some point and then a full buy out of his rights resulting in either a sale or perhaps a move to the part owning club. It was considered to be impractical. I have not really explained this but Inter also have an effective advantage financially as they are not bidding for the same thing as Manchester United. I really don't want to get in to the finances too much as I have watched with amusement all day as folks have tried to understand simple math like floundering beached whales.}

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Ed002 dont you get bored of repeating everything {Ed002's Note - Man it is hopeless sometimes - could drive a man to drink. But it may give them something to ponder as they must have burned out on Math 101 today.}

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Ed002 forgets we are mere mortals just living on a whim and a prayer.

i hope its nice and lonely up there number 2

love you really

Cban

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04 Aug 2012 02:20:42
Would it be possible for you to fully explain the figures for those of us that would understand. Then someone might be able to "Brian Cox" it to make the simpletons understand! {Ed002's Note - There was simply too much to make it worthwhile. Sorry.}

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03 Aug 2012 14:33:40
All this talk about Moura already signing is complete nonsense. Chelsea completed Oscar deal while at olympics so why would there be a need to delay the announcement.
ED2 has also repeatedly said ideally a deal would be done with Inter {Ed002's Note - The Oscar deal was done before the Olympics started. It is not the Olympics stopping the Moura deal completing.}

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Moura is not gonna join United, FACT.

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The deal may have been completed since the Olympics started. Not saying it has but it's possible.

We tried to complete by the start of the Olympics but as always these thigns get dragged out. Oscar was done before and announced so he could just go into the Olympics with no fruther distractions

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03 Aug 2012 14:23:04
Arsenal to out bid Utd for Victor Wanyama 9mill plus ad ons Big Joe in the know

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Hope not great young player

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That lot wont out bid us top player

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I hope not, i think anything under 10 mil would be a steal for this player.

Cban

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03 Aug 2012 13:47:17
Eds do you think there is a chance that we may go back in for Modric? {Ed002's Note - Perhaps.}

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03 Aug 2012 13:29:56
Mourinho says Sahin can leave this month if he so chooses. I think it would be best to get him on a season long loan. He seems to be a little injury prone and a loan would see how he fairs against the much more physical EPL. If United do decide to purchase him i think it would be a massive gamble. With Arsenal sniffing at the player for a season long loan i think it would be worth a shot if we offered a season long loan with an option to buy.
What you guys think?
James.

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I would buy him and reunite him with Kagawa in midfield. Cleverley, Sahin and Kagawa would be some midfield three.

Sydney!

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I would do exactly the same thing as Sydney says. I rate Sahin very very high! Complete midfielder, players exactly for Man utd way. Can tackle, beautiful long and short pass, creates and has nice both feet. More deep lying midfield, which we need, if he stays fit I think he can challenge Carrick. Loan or buy, if fit he will be perfect for Us.

Red Samurai

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Yep Syd would be very good! I would say we could take most teams on in midfield with them.

1redarmy

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Sahin would be perfect for United. He would link well with any of Kagawa, Cleverley, Carrick or Anderson. Plus I think he would play really well with Rooney. We would have a great midfield with him. Gilly

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03 Aug 2012 12:57:01
I've just read that the glaziers r guna sell don't know how true like

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Why would they sell something they are making a shed load of money out??
Where did you read this??
HERBIE

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No doubt it was on Caughtoffside. Its nonsense. Just some economist speculating

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Lots of news sites saying the IPO is a precursor to a full sell off but its just speculation. Unless you have heard something more official?

Dan

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If the IPO is successful it'll make MUFC's value $3 billion!No one's going to be buying us at that price.

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I think hell has just frozen over...

SB

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Yeah selling us up the swanny

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03 Aug 2012 12:11:35
is it true that neymar could be coming to manchester united soonnn

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NO

1redarmy

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Ye he is if they get through the quarter finals of the Olympics, he will be playing at OT

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Never going to happen, Barcelona have reportedly paid a handsome fee to Santos to make sure they're first choice for Neymar. Should be signing him in 2014. {Ed002's Note - It is untrue that Barcelona has any sort of deal at all.}

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Not unless manchester united win tonights euromillions draw!


Parks.

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If he goes for free in 2014 which might happen then every major European club will try to sign him. {Ed002's Note - He won't be free.}

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Absolutely no chance this is the best cash cow with golden teats of all time

Pardoe

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Santos have said they would keep him until the end of his contract if necessary because what he brings is worth it.

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Why would he not want to play at OT

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03 Aug 2012 12:48:22
NEWS UPDATE:
SAO PAULO REJECT MOURA-TO INTER NEWS: Only united have held negotations with Moura.

SAHIN A TARGET: Fergie wants him on permanent deal, Arsenal want him on loan, likely to go to Arsenal unless we stump up a large bid.

BANES A NO-GO: He was never a target, too old. Only four year gap with Evra.

LEFT-BACK GUARANTEED: Fergie has come out to say we WILL sign a left back.

40MILLION PLUS IN SPENDING: According to reports, we will spend 40m+ this month. LB expected along with another signing.

VAN PERSIE 50/50: Too many if's on this player. May end up back at Emirates. Juve in charge of any deal. Likelihood of happening - 5%

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How can VAN PERSIE 50/50 be 5%?

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Baines too old? You cant by every player as a youngster and have them hampering each others development. If we buy Willems or similar then what is the point in having Fabio and Blackett? We need an older defender who wont block these players development! People throw a blanket only buy young players statement without having a clue of how it will affect the team!

Dan

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Don't know if I'm reading it wrong, but it seems they are saying it's a TOTAL of 40 mil. Which means around 25-30 mil left, if you take into account $$$ outgoing players.
So, straight up, I'd say forget Lucas, unless those figures being touted are ridiculous. Or it's just Lucas.
Most likely a young left back for 12-ish, and ??
No established midfielder like Moutinho/Sahin either for that sort of money.
Thoughts?
~itchynose

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Can we please just sign a top class midfielder. Everyone knows that where we are weakest

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'van persie 50/50' i.e 50% chance?
followed by 'Likelihood of happening - 5 %'
good maths!

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03 Aug 2012 02:06:09
Reports coming out that Inter Milan have got Lucas for £21.2m rising to £25m. Dont know how reliable this is but i hope its wrong.

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Lucas moura to inter on espn now to lost out on other target great

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This has since been denied by Sao Paulo's vice-president.

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Announced on Sky italia, so yo can almost disregard it immediately, 90% of transfer news out of italy is rumour or speculation, a few examples:Ibra to MCFC, RVP's already agreed Juve transfer, etc.
Until both clubs make official announcements theres no telling where he'll end up, so sit tight, theres plenty time to go in the window yet!

KmD

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Most likely Sky trying to even up the UK betting market on where he'll move.

DarkLard08

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According to Sao Paolo vice president there has been no offer from Inter and that the only discussions that have taken place are with Utd .

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03 Aug 2012 00:05:19
Talksport reporting that RM are preparing a £19.7m bid for Nani...

T0MB0Z

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19 million is an insult

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Good old talksport ....lol

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19 million? What a joke! I wouldn't let Nani go for anything less than 30 million.

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I'd take it if it means we could get Sahin for 8-10M

Sanshine

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Sahin+10 mill for nani thats if we get lucas

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That would be "Talk London Sport" I presume.

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Ok ,straight swap for ozil.
wickla red

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I hope it includes a player swap. I'd have pretty much anyone in Real Madrids squad. I know Fergie is a fan of Marcelo (he's said it a few times, and at one point I'm sure we were looking at him), and apparently we're trying to sign Brazil's 2014 world cup team so it'd make sense as we need a left-back. If we swapped Nani for Marcelo and Sahin I'd be ecstatic. I hate Nani's miserable face.

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02 Aug 2012 23:59:14
calm down people, the english media were syaing we'd agreed a £26m deal a week or two ago, just guess work, the deal to united will be done/ announced when the olympics is over!

Jake F

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Crazy money for a kid,too much of a gamble.

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Not really bothered who signs now if the squad we have stays fit we will do well,personally im not sure that we will sign anyone else all i know is i cant wait til the 31st of august so we will know one way or another !

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Fergie has basically said definitely one more, and if he can get the other then two, he seemed pretty sure about the first one, and seen as though it's not happened yet it must be Lucas as he's at the olympics! the second is anyones guess, but I don't think it's Baines, too old for his price tag and quality, but i'd love to see Sahin come in on loan, give us another season to line up real world class players for Scholes and Giggs.

Jake F

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