06 Jun 2018 16:25:00
Someone mentioned a Kohler sleeve deal a while ago and apparently the guy who brokered it let slip United have activated Griezmann’s release clause?! This was a while ago and just read United are about to announce Kohler as a sleeve sponsor for £10M a year! 😳.
06 Jun 2018 18:25:42
Was just about to post this. Has some legs as it was posted 7 days ago.
06 Jun 2018 18:17:05
Yeah I posted about it last week. It's a rumour that certainly has some legs. Maybe as an early Christmas present ed002 can put us out of our misery and let us know if we're still interested?
{Ed002's Note - The "release clause" for Griezmann is not anything to do with Manchester United.}
06 Jun 2018 18:49:08
Thanks ed. Have United been in contact with Atletico over a deal for the player?
{Ed002's Note - I have explained their interest in the apst. Right now the player is at the World Cup and no doubt pondering the Barcelona situation. AM want him to stay.}
06 Jun 2018 19:01:07
Thanks ed! If you have the time in the future to explain "release clauses" it would be amazing. I think the general consensus of them is X player has a £50 million clause. We bid and that's that. I think this assumption stems from Football Manager. Would love more details about it when you have the time. Cheers!
{Ed002's Note - Perhaps a reminder about transfer related clauses would be apt. This is a horribly complex area not least because they are written under individual national laws. They cause a great deal of misunderstanding with football supporters and the media alike.
The "buy out clause" is legally binding between a club and a player. The "buy out" is effectively what it says - a means for the player to buy himself out of the contract. As an example, if a player wishes to buy himself out of a contract, he pays the applicable FA (on behalf of the club) the amount of the "buy out" clause effectively becoming a free agent. The problem is that in most cases a player would need to obtain that money from the buying club - and this is fraught with issues regarding "tapping up" and, of course, taxation (as it can be seen as income for the player and would therefore be subject to income tax). There was a test case about the taxation issue in Spain about five years ago which is why they have an exception. All players in Spain and Portugal have a release clause that allows the player to buy himself out of his contract without tax implications. This was to address a ruling from around 30 years ago allowing players a way out of their contracts. It works differently in Iberia to elsewhere as the tax implications do not make such clauses viable. All players in Iberia must have a figure set and agreed with the club. So "buy out" clauses are very rare. Related to this is the Webster Ruling but I don't intend to go in to that now.
A "release clause" is far more common in that it gives a figure that the club would accept for the sale of a player to another club - but it is not legally binding except where both parties (clubs) are in the same country (for the sake of argument I should say that football Spain and Portugal count as the same country as do England and Wales) for legal purposes. These are normally unreasonably high figures (Messi at Barcelona for example) introduced to act as a deterrent for hostile bids - and even then the club could easily block a move. However, if a club in the same country does agree to match a release clause then the selling club would be obliged to ask the player if he is interested - there is no obligation on the player to make a move. For interested clubs outside of the country, the selling club may use it as a guide but are under obligation to accept a bid and may demand a higher figure.
There is then the becoming popular "termination clause" which is binding between the player and the club and if met would see an offer from anywhere accepted and the player given the opportunity to make a call on a move. This overcomes the issues associated with "buy out" clauses as the money would be paid by one club to another and about the legal proximity of the buying side.}
06 Jun 2018 19:13:05
On another matter, I see Diogo is all over the Man Utd homepage, But no sign of Fred as yet . I thought it was all done and dusted. And who next? . I wonder.
06 Jun 2018 19:31:55
Rock - i asked the same question. It looks like we have agreed the deal with his club but no official signing.
06 Jun 2018 20:52:40
Fred passed his medical on Monday so unsure why there hasn't been an official announcement. Only thing on the club website confirms the agreement between clubs.
Funny article I read that Arsenal are looking to make a move for Fellaini on a free transfer.
06 Jun 2018 21:18:23
Its possible due to the player concentrating on Brazil where dalot isn't with Portugal!
06 Jun 2018 19:41:41
Ed002, this is exactly why I come to this site; a proper education. Thanks for the breakdown.
06 Jun 2018 20:04:13
#ed002thagod.
06 Jun 2018 21:37:46
I thought it was because of international clearance? Whatever that means.
06 Jun 2018 23:34:40
Excellent insight into the world of transfers, thanks ed002, much appreciated.
06 Jun 2018 23:38:24
It’s quite easy to understand really.
06 Jun 2018 23:40:37
thanks ed02.
07 Jun 2018 00:02:05
Thanks ed002.
07 Jun 2018 00:56:52
Great insight Ed002 much appreciated.
07 Jun 2018 09:17:39
I would guess it’s related to him needing to obtain a work permit while Dalot doesn’t.
07 Jun 2018 10:39:25
Really interesting to read ed002, Thank you. Maybe one of us should forward this to the press I blame them most of the time for people's misunderstanding of transfer issues.
{Ed002's Note - They are on "red alert" waiting for it.}