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05 Oct 2018 22:47:06
Couple of papers saying mourinho's gone no matter what the result this weekend. From a personal point of view I'd rather get rid of the players causing problems before the manager however Jose really doesn't help himself at times. If it is true I suggest a short term option for the season and look to appoint a DOF by christmas.

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05 Oct 2018 22:57:34
This club has become a joke.

05 Oct 2018 22:59:36
Can any of the eds confirm if this is the case that mourinho will be sacked after the game tomorrow?

{Ed004's Note - There are a few posts waiting for Ed2 so he will reply when he gets a chance. In the mean time I understand that this is a big news story but can posters please stop asking for Ed. If your post isnt shown its because its one of the few hundred been deleted while Ed2 is away}

05 Oct 2018 23:00:56
If this is true it just shows how out of touch the board are with the fans and the ethos of the club. Sack him today and no one bats an eyelid. How can they let Jose manage the team tomorrow knowing that he's gone regardless of the result. There's certain ways to do things.

05 Oct 2018 23:28:49
This is what the board do. Did it with Moyes and van Gaal. Woody is a pathetic coward!

05 Oct 2018 23:40:13
Gary Neville spot on in his assessment tbh, whatever we think of playing style, there’s a lot more wrong than that. We don’t know the ins and outs of what it takes to manage a football club the size of United but the guys running it seem to think it’s a toy, no wonder our managers struggle.

05 Oct 2018 23:43:25
I shouldve also added. I am not one of those who gets attached to a plyer or manager as i just see th3m as employees.

I am a bit old school as i like a bit of discipline and i don't think some of our players are mature enough for a manager like Mourinho. They maybe ne3d a amanager lik3 Guardiola who is always up your arse and wants to control everything about.

06 Oct 2018 00:17:05
I find it highly unlikely that if mourinho getting sacked that he will be in the dugout for tomorrow's game more likely they will make a statement in the morning confirm8ng they have parted ways I mean what would happen if we hammered Newcastle 5 nil how bad will that look that they sack him.

03 Oct 2018 13:21:25
I know it's only half a quote but according to the manager last night was "not a bad result". Now, as a one off he is right but he conveniently ignores context.
It is actually an appalling result. This is Man U at home at the Theatre of Dreams. This is yet another lack lustre performance in a string with only two victories against second string opponents to provide very mediocre "highlights".

We were so "at home" that viewers could be forgiven for thinking that players had carpet slippers on. Any "highlights" from last night were only such as slight relief from the generally dire performance.

As per my post on the Rumours section some days ago I am still awaiting the super optimists to take up my challenge explain why I should be encouraged by this backward progress, why it is toxic to say that this situation is appalling and wanting it over ASAP. Just sacking the manager will not solve anything. Those presiding of this fiasco need to go as well. The really depressing fact is that the owners are raking it in and inaction is very much in their mercenary interests.

I know that sorting it properly may be very disruptive but to use a travel analogy the sooner one admits to having taken a wrong turn and turned back the quicker you get to your destination.

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03 Oct 2018 14:57:28
I've watched a lot of Valencia this season, they looked better against Utd than much of the fodder they have faced in Spain. Awful result.

Good post.

03 Oct 2018 21:36:34
I really the “theatre of dreams” tag, but agree with the sentiment of the post.

04 Oct 2018 12:55:47
Eric,

It isn't a tag it is the nickname of our great stadium, I am sure you have been when things are going well, the name makes perfect sense.

04 Oct 2018 19:52:05
GDS2
Agreed but temporarily (I hope) it is becoming the Theatre of Nightmares.

03 Oct 2018 09:46:45
Sly sports report- (probably100% lies) that we turned down a bid for pp of 45m + mina and gomes from Barcelona in the summer. Also reported that player part ex was dismissed by the club from I think ed002- I think this might be the only solution or method of getting the underperforming/ big wages of the books whilst still bringing in new blood. PSG appaently interested with Rabiot wanting out, they also have the likes of Verrati, cavani . Might be time for ed to change the negotiation tactics.

{Ed002's Note - This is where there is a major stumbling block. The only way it would be financially possible for PSG would be if Neymar or Mbappe were to leave - and they needed a replacement for Marco Verratti - but Mino has other ideas in any case. Barcelona's problem is simple, wages. They can fund the purchase but they are maxed out on wages and that is one of the reasons they will look to include players in any major deals. Their problem does not go away easily unless they can move Suarez on and perhaps offload Messi to a retirement in Orlando. Juventus are looking to continue their "growth plan" and would take Pogba if they can assure themselves he will excel, and they can address the financial needs which will include moving a couple of high end players on. I would not discount them but he is not top of their list.}

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03 Oct 2018 11:17:58
cheers ed002 for the rapid response. I always thought the wages a fees would end up being a major stumbling block with transfers and it obviously is. Thanks for the detailed answer, have a great day.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

03 Oct 2018 13:21:45
I would take Either of Rabiot or Pogba Plus cash for Pogba at this minute. However, tomorrow is a different day.

03 Oct 2018 13:37:32
Rabiot or veratti I meant lol.

{Ed002's Note - Rabiot will be out of contract in the summer and neither are of interest to the club right now.}

03 Oct 2018 16:35:10
Thanks for the heads up Ed.

03 Oct 2018 22:58:45
Do not rate Rabiot. He never dominates a match which is what we need.

02 Oct 2018 18:32:57
Reports suggesting De Gea not in the squad tonight.

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02 Oct 2018 18:58:43
Forget that, he's starting, silly rumour started by the MEN.

30 Sep 2018 20:33:10
Mourinho continually saying he's happy with the teams efforts? This is self preservation imo, as in reality, effort is what a manager can extract from a player and quality is either there or it's not. so Jose is basically saying that attitude ( the thing he can influence most) is fine but the quality ( something he can not do much about) Is missing. or am I being to cynical of his comments?

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01 Oct 2018 07:57:15
In simpler terms, Jose is arse covering.

29 Sep 2018 23:23:16
What a load of tat. I am being polite.
Can anyone tell me why it should be toxic to say this as an honest opinion and just want the nightmare to end.

I would challenge the super optimists who often post on here to explain with sensible, reasoned logic why I should be encouraged by this progress in a backward direction.
We are more likely to find ourselves fighting a relegation battle than challenging at the top.

I have thought that we might just about challenge for top six. I now think that a few more weeks and even that will become a pipe dream.
I am now convinced Jose has to go. He is more toxic than any of us. However even that will achieve nothing without a clear out who continue to oversee this fiasco.
The owners are the only ones who can sort this but they are doing very nicely, thank you.

Action from the Glazers? Beware of flying pigs.
Our club has been propelled up the creek and left without a paddle. Well almost. Perilously close.

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30 Sep 2018 17:58:31
None of the optimists taking up the challenge to justify the indefensible then?
Are they hiding in shame or have they finally become realists?

02 Oct 2018 18:51:37
Waiting for GDS2 to come tell us everything’s ok because we strung two wins together against two bang average sides a few weeks back. I’ve seen this coming for a long time amoungst a few others. Hence my 6th prediction in ajh comp. I think that’s unrealistic right now tbh.

29 Sep 2018 15:23:32
The funny thing is this was all predicted about mourinhos 3rd season from pretty much everyone. He's lost his players his team selection today was baffling the football is poor. It's exactly like Chelsea 3 years ago. Even the most hopeful of us can't expect him to turn it around it's a shame but we need to say enough is enough before the season is a write off.

I doubt the decision makers will do this until it gets worse. All the club is concerned about is how much money it generates off the pitch it's losing touch with supporters, personally I'm not even angry anymore as I have started to expect very little from us.

All we can hope for is a plan going forward but I doubt we have one.

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29 Sep 2018 17:27:39
Whoever decided to give him a new contract last season knowing his previous history, deserves to be shot.

29 Sep 2018 19:39:57
Most definitely absolute criminal I see a lot of the fans phone in shows and their all saying the board won't sack him well there's easy way to get rid of him the fans should be protesting with their feet don't turn up to the next game don't go I know it's prob crazy to say it but if it's only way to get rid of mourinho then they must do it. Guarantee once the board sees an empty old Trafford they will soon take action.
This hasbeen thinks he has the board over a barrel because of the payout
they will need to pay him .
He actually said it to the press a couple weeks ago .
I'm absolutely disgusted.

29 Sep 2018 21:16:27
It's about time the players who are selected took some of the heat too. They are paid megabucks to perform. Ultimately they should be playing for the fans for the shirt and for their own personal pride.

29 Sep 2018 22:38:05
Hendon, absolutely spot on mate. They are stealing a living and hiding behind the manager's obvious shortcomings. Jose's position now now untenable, and the axe will surely fall. But nobody will convince me that these players are free of any blame. Some people may be gullible enough to believe that some of these imposters of footballers are fighting for what's best for the team.
I say they need to show that they are warriors on the pitch before they try to be warriors off it. The whole lots stinks from top to bottom.

30 Sep 2018 01:30:24
Agree more than when my mrs suggests a curry betty.

30 Sep 2018 07:51:23
We have wasted more money over the years for average players, Surely 12 million to get rid of Jose is a snip .
Totally shockling football, looks like the club is ready to implode.

01 Oct 2018 12:17:59
If Jose goes before Pogba we are screwed. It reinforces the message, akin to Chelsea under AVB, that no manager will last long enough to overhaul the squad, and the players can expect plenty of power and a fat wallet if they play/ sign for United.

29 Sep 2018 12:19:31
Nicola Barella reminds me very much of Paul Scholes - intelligent and skilful. I have heard that we are interested in him, along with a number of other clubs. Here's hoping.

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29 Sep 2018 15:16:54
We will no doubt hear a lot about players we are supposedly in for over the next few days just to try and keep the fans negativity down.

27 Sep 2018 21:22:57
Daily rag has bailly martial and parriera on pogbas side of the dressing room, and the senior players staying out of it distancing themselves.

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27 Sep 2018 21:51:13
Interesting that Lingard isn't mentioned as he and Pogba are very close. Lukaku also not mentioned and he too is supposedly close to Pogba.

I wonder if it's just a case of lumping the out of favour players together and saying they are on Pogba's side.

27 Sep 2018 22:19:58
Sorry Lukaku was mentioned saying he has distanced himself from Pogba lately.

28 Sep 2018 07:52:07
I’d take a Fail story with a pinch of salt but Lukaku is a professional who wants to get better and it wouldn’t surprise me to see him distance himself from Pogba. These are professional footballers who get paid vast sums to perform for this club, engaging in other people’s petty business shouldn’t be in their thinking.

28 Sep 2018 10:41:30
any player causing a revolt or disrespecting the manager regardless of the opinions we have on Jose needs to be gone.

not a chance should anyone be bigger than the manager.

28 Sep 2018 11:09:43
seems half the side would need to be sold bolger because a fair few are taking Pogbas side it seems.

28 Sep 2018 11:31:08
FZZ - blame has to come from all parties. but they need to all sort they crap out because it will end in disaster.

28 Sep 2018 12:45:36
Who's actually backing Pogba? Martial obviously because a fellow stroppy overrated under performer. The article then only mentions that pogba is friendly with Shaw, Fred and Pereira. One of those is new to the club and two have previously praised mourinho over the summer. So we can only say martial with any certainty.

28 Sep 2018 14:44:24
And Ed has said in the past that both want out, Fine the pair of them and slap in the reserves for a few weeks, i’d love to see them brought down a peg, twitter a reserve game then Pogba!

28 Sep 2018 19:23:17
IF this is true, then imagine potentially throwing your chance at United away just to side with the biggest clown in the dressing room.
Andreas Perreira has been so vocal about this being his chance and wanting to make it work at United. What a shame it’d be if he is sidling up to Pogba and pissing the manager off. Same could be said for Bailly. Neither will be given the chance at a bigger club than United.

27 Sep 2018 01:40:02
I know i'm going to get pelters for this but here goes, there are no managers out there at the moment who are available without complications, so, as a solution in the short-term why not consider the veritable artisan himself, monsieur wenger, he's been offered the united job before and out of loyalty stayed at the gonners, if nothing eels, at least beautiful football with an attacking slant would be back on the menu at the theatre of dreams, and i'd bring in defensive coaches to whip the back six into shape, maybe mad to suggest, but at this point just seeing free flowing football again would be great-right then, where's my tin hat!

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27 Sep 2018 07:32:20
And we can also hire the guys from Arsenal Fan TV. The post match reactions would be so fun.

27 Sep 2018 09:36:41
Does any of the eds know if anything has changed with the board over Jose or pogba? Or in your opinion if it comes to It, who do you think will go 1st? .

{Ed001's Note - there is a lot of money tied up in Jose's contract and Pogba has been trying to get out, so you would expect Pogba to go first.}

27 Sep 2018 13:33:33
In this situation pogba should be sold.

If he was more arsed about what he does on the pitch rather than what his followers are liking he would a world class player.


He will forever be a player talked about for having the potential but didn't do anything with it.

It's a shame and fergie was right all them years ago.

27 Sep 2018 14:38:16
How about Eddie Howe? Why aren't we thinking about him? I think he is a very good manager doing great things with average player, i really like his brand of football so why we don't go after him? He is young, hungry, determined and plays footy the right way.

27 Sep 2018 15:23:19
Absolute NO to wenger mate. Just my opinion of course but i'd go berserk if we appointed that!

27 Sep 2018 15:40:02
How about the Glaziers sacking Woodward, Mourinho, and sell Pogba in January. People might be happy then.
We have not lost our identity this season, we lost it the day Fergie retired. Dire football, Dire manager and dire players. Young . Smalling and jones, not fit to wear shirt. There is more movement in my bowels. Than what there is in Lukaku.
Get used to it boys the glory days won't be comming back anytime soon.

27 Sep 2018 15:56:50
Made me chuckle rockthered. bowels lol.

Have to disagree on rom though.

28 Sep 2018 01:09:50
Dire since fergi, pick out young, smalling and Jones all fergi signings.

 


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