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17 Feb 2018 08:31:11
Interesting rumour this morning, Real ready to move for Pogba. Could be paper trash talk of course but if they did and the money was big, would you sell? Clearly the boy has talent but he has yet to dominate a game or deliver on his potential. Is that down to him, the Manager, or a combination of both.

If the money was silly should we cash in? The problem with that is that he may go on and become the dominating player we believe is in there somewhere, and replacing him will cost a fortune too. For me, I’d seriously consider it though.


{Ed002's Note - There is zero interest in Paul Pogba from Real Madrid. They have very, very different ideas who they want.}

1.) 17 Feb 2018 11:41:22
There is no way we should be selling Pogba it would be crazy to do so.

Its likr selling the next messi and then trying to go buy a next ronaldo because we are noy patient enough.

2.) 17 Feb 2018 11:59:12
"Cash in" wtf? So some now want to sell Pogba when we have few midfielders for a pretty poor return? You bored with FIFA?

3.) 17 Feb 2018 11:20:17
Yay. Thanks ed for that.



12 Jan 2018 21:19:21
All this talk of Sanchez has masked the rumour that Vardy is also being considered. Not sure if they would sell or at what price but I think he would slot in much easier, albeit he is a like for like with Lukaku. Sanchez’s attitude worries me, the stories from Arsenal about his isolationist approach do not bode well for team spirit. Hey ho, what do I know?


1.) 12 Jan 2018 21:28:45
I hope not. Hateful diving git, Gerrard, suarez, terry, barton, keown, cattermole, Vardy. all the same to me would of hated to see any of them in a red shirt.

2.) 12 Jan 2018 23:05:33
That's one heck of a team those lot would make. Lacks some wide players tho.

3.) 13 Jan 2018 05:53:05
bfbw, there too much hate in your heart, i'd have had Keown and Suarez any day of the week. Go hug a tree man.

4.) 13 Jan 2018 08:10:14
AJH Vardy is a player Maze likes and admired over the years for his tenacity as well as his rags to riches story but to say he is a better option than Sanchez is silly, very silly.

Wake up AJH you are dreaming of poorly fabricated scenarios.



08 Dec 2017 20:28:41
So, first of all, I share my birthday with Jonny Evans so put that your pipe and smoke it. Secondly, I may have had a little wine tonight so forgive me if I am less coherent than Ronnie during a transfer window.

Sunday is a big game and I hope that Jose wakes up and has an epiphany but I fear it will not happen. I believe it is better to die fighting than running away and in football that is also true. Inspire the troops, give them hope and belief, rouse their spirits, fill their hearts with pride and desire. Let’s not turn up to stifle and try and nick a goal on the break. I don’t care if they are the best team, like Pierre the famous French fighter pilot, let’s go down in flames (google it) .

We are United, a team steeped in history and tradition, we live or die by our standard, there are times to stand up and be counted, Sunday is one of those times. We win, or we lose in a blaze of glory, to be a United fan there are no in betweens.

Time for more wine.


1.) 09 Dec 2017 01:43:34
Jesse's performance at Arsenal will have given him food for thought. Maybe we can press high with a few players and cause some chaos amongst their back line. Worry is that Matic and Ander would have to play out of their skins.

The motivational piece is way more important than formation. Win your battles all over the pitch and you'll get a win.

2.) 09 Dec 2017 10:50:17
We’ll park the bus and try to catch them on the counter and via set pieces.



27 Aug 2017 19:14:26
Just caught up with MOTD, I thought all our players played well. Amongst other things that stood out though:

1. Joe Hart, wow, surely he isn't England's goalie any more
2. Anyone else warming to Rafa? No? Just me?
3. City, still not convincing and I think strong teams will bully them.
4. Shearer has become a half cent pundit since he stopped sitting on the fence.
5. Phil Neville, got to love him, is he the most positive person in the world ever?
6. Swansea possibly not as bad as we have thought.
7. Bilic and De Boer have to be worried although after today's debacle, perhaps Wenger will be first to go.


1.) 27 Aug 2017 20:35:38
Pretty much agree with everything there mate.
I was saying to my lad yesterday that if this palace squad go down it's the best squad ever to be relegated.

2.) 27 Aug 2017 00:43:07
Phil Neville really annoys me. He's so biased it's unbelievable. Agree with the rest. De Boer is no surprise, he was abysmal at inter. Played some disgraceful football there.



16 Apr 2017 19:52:35
We may have beaten the League leaders 2-0 but my roast carrots were overlooked and I blame Fellaini. He's a disgrace.


1.) 16 Apr 2017 20:28:56
Rumours Ed? I could live with Others but Rumours?

{Ed004's Note - This is just hearsay until more sources confirm it}

2.) 16 Apr 2017 21:06:15
De Gea made no saves that is not good enough. Get rid.

3.) 16 Apr 2017 21:31:26
I have several witnesses to the carrot issue, but no video ref.

4.) 17 Apr 2017 09:37:29
I can confirm Bond Tony's carrots was burnt to cinders.




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24 Feb 2018 20:36:21
Big game tomorrow, win and we make a statement. Lose and we are third with Chelsea level and potentially Spurs only a point behind. The performance is important but the result is critical. Which United will turn up?


1.) 24 Feb 2018 21:28:15
The usual one I fear mate.

2.) 24 Feb 2018 22:17:44
In which case we are buggered.

3.) 24 Feb 2018 22:51:54
We have to score first. If we do, I think we'll win, and win comfortably. If we don't, with the way we set up, the pedestrian nature of our football, and the lack of a leader on the pitch, I can't see us getting back into it. Obviously, I hope I'm wrong.

4.) 24 Feb 2018 23:28:53
I bet the odds for 0-0 or a set-piece 1-0 either way have never been worse.

Early goal is essential if we have any chance of a decent watch.

5.) 24 Feb 2018 23:48:40
I’m interested to see what happens. After a very positive start to the season there appears to be something not right at the moment. It could be a power struggle, it could just be players are out of form, it could be Jose’s tactics or man management, but it makes tomorrow’s game massive. Slowly but surely we have been caught and we now have several teams breathing down our necks.

6.) 25 Feb 2018 01:14:15
Unfortunately I only see Chelsea winning and probably 2 or 3 nil.



23 Feb 2018 06:46:04
Rumours abound that Jose and Pogba had a heated discussion and Jose told him to check whose name was on the Managers door. Apparently, Pogba wants to feel loved. It’s interesting that DDG struggled initially and it was tough love that has transformed him into the best keeper in the world. It seems like this is the approach being adopted with Pogba and he needs to decide if he wants to put in the work and effort to step up to the top level.

I’ve expressed my doubts about his ability to do it but it seems things will come to a head one way or the other. It also shows Jose has lost none of his swagger or confidence despite the Chelsea meltdown and is prepared to face down the clubs marque signing.

I hate watching us right now, Wednesdays game was a perfect demonstration of what we have become. It was dire but was it really a surprise based on what we have seen this year? Our forward line is as good as any but just don’t get enough of the ball. We have signed excellent players But suddenly they don’t look excellent. I don’t want to win trophies this way, this is not who we are or what we stand for and I will fight for the tradition and history of our club.

People are asking if it was between Jose and Pogba, which one would you want to keep, for me the answer is neither.


1.) 23 Feb 2018 07:38:23
Agreed on most Tony. But I will definitely keep Pogba as he'll show what a fantastic player he is in a different team under a different manager.
Mourinho is picking fights with the fans, the players, the management, the medical staff. I think all this energy he's wasting on this should be channelled positively into the team.
How come pogba Sanchez Rashford lukaku are looking so poor? Maybe the manager should sit back and analyse his own performance.
Not all players react positively to tough love. Look at the way Fergie handled players. He gave Sharpe and Giggs a hard time and they flourished. Yet he treated cantona and Ronaldo less harshly and they flourished.
In my opinion, the person holding the club back is no other than the manager himself. And I'm really sad to say that as I wanted him at the club in the first place.

2.) 23 Feb 2018 08:13:49
So let's say we change the manager and we are playing beautiful attractive football, satisfying everyone. And pogba, maybe, starts to struggle and not play well, having difficulties, playing up a little bit. Do we also look for another manager because they aren't getting the best outta PP?

Get outta here, he's in a united shirt and shoulld be putting more effort in. You can't take 38 touches and give the ball away 18. That's not down to any one manager, that's down to the player. A recurring issue over the past 4/ 5 years is players that have not been pulling their socks up. It's time to stop making excuses for players. Pogba has it All, it's down to him and only him whether or not he wants to show it.

3.) 23 Feb 2018 08:53:50
The problem is that Pogba is our 'star' midfielder and all players have dips in form. The solution is to be able to leave him out the team and have other players come in who are just as good.



20 Feb 2018 20:34:34
After a busy day at work I come on this site and find the huge debate about City. I take the point about Pep throwing his toys out of the prom but let me ask you this, how many top Managers lose with dignity? Not many I can think of and it’s the nature of being a winner. However, the irony of them having a man sent off due to a dangerous challenge is delicious.

As for Aguero, I can’t believe some of the views I am seeing. If reports are true, that he was abused and spat on then I think he was pretty controlled. The bigger issue is that fans running on the pitch is dangerous: how long before a player gets seriously injured? We have had players punched and abused, how long before a knife appears. I think invading a pitch should be a serious legal offence. There was issue in an Australian cricket test years ago and a player got badly hurt trying to tackle a fan. After that the Aussie authorities made entering a field of play a pretty serious offence and guess what? It stopped.

Many football fans are boozed up idiots who think they can do and say what they want; the abuse players get nowadays is unacceptable. If a player has the temerity to give it back they howl with anger and demand action. If I was Aguero I would have punched that fans lights out and if Aguero had done, I would have applauded him.


1.) 20 Feb 2018 20:58:08
Totally agree. It won’t be long till clubs start doing breath tests on how drunk some fans are.

2.) 20 Feb 2018 21:01:40
And you would have got a ban for it. I have no doubt you are right that the fan was probably a horrible piece of work however players don’t operate in the same stratosphere as the rest of us on any level and so they can’t be seen to react like that. And certainly it can’t be seen as one rule for one but not another.
Re Pep it’s not his reaction that gets to me but the fact that it highlights how much of a media darling he’s been made so far whenin fact he’s like any other manager, just not vilified yet. he will be as that’s how you sell column
Inches you build someone up and up so you can knock them down further over a longer period and sell more off the back of it. It will happen just depends on how long. Klopp as well. The tabloid press is calculated and ruthless. Ask Jose.

3.) 20 Feb 2018 21:15:18
Robbie, that’s a good point about Pep, he is certainty the media darling isn’t he? I get the point abut players but why should they have to put up with abuse, why has it become acceptable?

4.) 20 Feb 2018 21:23:27
Ajh i agree on the bad loser thing. Fergie jose wenger all have done worse in the tunnel. I was more annoyed with the ref. He should have sent him to the stand for the offence. Now any manager can say or do what they like to refs in the tunnel and point to double standards if they are sent off themselves.
On aguero i think he should have been banned for a couple of games there is no place for his actions not withstanding the provocation. The supporter should be banned for life.
No evidence of any spit in the coverage and god knows what he said nevertheless its not the way to behave.
I go to Ireland rugby matches regularly and what a difference in the atmosphere. Opposition fans sit alongside each other. Same at gaa cricket and many other sorts. But the yob mentality and aggression at football matches is appalling. I couldn't agree more. Its disgusting at times. Rugby players brawl with each other on the pitch often but on the couple of occasions a player hit a fan they were banned for 18 months. Aguero didn't hurt the guy or connect but tried to wanted to and would have if he wasnt stopped, that warrented a ban imo.
But the fa have ignored it so its a mute point.
Would they have ignored it if it was vinny jones barton clough or julian dicks? I doubt it.

5.) 20 Feb 2018 22:30:50
Good to see you're back working again, Tony.

6.) 20 Feb 2018 22:44:58
Pep has always been a bad loser it was Jose remember who made him quit at Barcelona ☹☹.

7.) 20 Feb 2018 23:03:46
All the media saying City are still on for THE treble. Surely, it should be A treble, considering the FA Cup is one of the top 3 trophies.

8.) 21 Feb 2018 06:27:52
Come on Arsenal. If they can do City in the League Cup then good as they have been this talk of a quadruple / treble will stop. Wigan showed that they are beatable and most noticeable of all, they stopped City scoring.

9.) 21 Feb 2018 09:32:33
AJH, being Aussie, I’m not sure of the incident you speak of but if you have a spare couple of minutes, hop on YouTube and search “Andrew Symonds smashes streaker”.

10.) 21 Feb 2018 09:50:20
Darv, If I google someone ''smashes streaker'', I'm going to get a whole lot of video's that will land me in hot water with the wife.

11.) 21 Feb 2018 10:48:17
Haha ports, as I said, go to you tube, not red tube.

12.) 21 Feb 2018 11:01:09
its only celtic who are in with a chance of a quadruple stevie, the domestic treble and the europa league lol.

13.) 21 Feb 2018 11:12:56
Domestic treble in Scotland, James? Sure that's like me beating my 3 year old nephew at tennis 😁.

{Ed007's Note - How can you slag any league after Leicester won the English Pub League, Stevie? My nan whose been dead 20 years would finish top scorer in the tinpot EPL that includes dross like Burnley and Huddersfield.}

14.) 21 Feb 2018 11:30:17
I'd fancy Burnley to beat Celtic.

{Ed007's Note - Man City couldn't do it last year and they were unbeaten in the Pub League when we played them and just because Utd drew with Burnley and scraped a 1-0 win doesn't mean Burnley are a good team. How much Scottish football do you watch?}

15.) 21 Feb 2018 13:26:28
Just seeing if you were about today, Bond 😉.

{Ed007's Note - Are you checking up on me officer? ;)

16.) 21 Feb 2018 15:26:41
Yes, Bond. Using a police computer to check your details as we speak. Sure I'm just another corrupt officer in the occupied 6 counties, didn't you know 😁.

{Ed007's Note - I didn't know you were a peeler until yesterday - it came as quite a shock mate because you seem kind of... well... normal :)

17.) 21 Feb 2018 16:23:43
I get told all the time i don't look like one. I take it as a compliment 😁.



18 Feb 2018 08:19:32
Just watched the highlights again and I want to talk about VAR. My understanding was that VAR was there to deal with “clear and obvious errors”. According to MOTD, the ref didn’t call for a review, it was the ref back in the studio who called for it. Then you have the decision itself, I’m not convinced Mata was offside but if he was it was a couple of hairs from his beard, which is not a clear and obvious error.

So what’s going on? We all want the horror decisions to be cut out and if not, rectified, balls over the line, clear penalties and simulation, violent conduct and so on. But an offside decision of millimetres? Forget it was a United decision yesterday, this is a wider point about the obsession of VAR. We’ve seen corners awarded to the wrong side that result in a goal, perhaps we should review every disputed corner and throw in. The n paper it sounds like a reasonable idea but it’s application so far has been pants. It has disrupted games and delivered some questionable decisions, many of which were not in relation to clear and obvious errors.

It seems refs have a new toy to play with.


1.) 18 Feb 2018 09:39:02

I agree and yesterday showed it is far from being ready to use. The Mata decision was a complete shambles from every aspect, we went from the attackers advantage, a goal given, to a desperate attempt to prove he was offside. The image of the wavy lines made it look a farce and cannot do anything to build confidence in what looks an underthought under practiced botch because it can’t be called a system . It was not a clear and obvious error, unless the FA don’t understand the meaning of the words. Even now with hours to play with they are trying to argue half of his kneecap was offside.

In all this the fans seem to be ignored. In the stadium sat not knowing what is going on, at home waiting for the wavy lines to appear. How has the Premier League become so amateur? Why is it only happening at selected games, it means there are different standards being applied across a series of games, games that can be crucial to teams. Imagine if a crucial decision in the last minute of the last game goes against a team and it sends them down but it wasn’t a clear and obvious one to refer, will they take legal action?

They had time to study cricket, rugby league, take the best bits, mike up the extra ref to explain what they are looking at, they need big screens in grounds and on TV to show what is being looked at. But no the amateurs rammed this in and yesterday’s farce shows it needs far more planning and far clearer definitions of use before implementing and it needs to be all games in the competition to ensure the same standard across all.

2.) 18 Feb 2018 09:54:19
AJH - when it is offside it is a straight question, onside or offside, the clear and obvious error question does not apply.
That said, the whole incident yesterday was a complete shambles, an embarrassment to the FA.
I think BT said it took them 8mins to get a picture that showed Mata was offside, his knee was millimetres offside. Hands and arms don't count as you cannot use them to play the ball legally.

{Ed002's Note - The FA?}

3.) 18 Feb 2018 10:06:13
Ed002 - my understanding is that VAR is a FIFA initiative that the FA has agreed to trial in the FA Cup? As yesterday showed, the system as is is not fit for purpose and as the FA agreed to the trial I think it's embarrassing for them.
Happy to withdraw my statement if my understanding is incorrect.

{Ed002's Note - It comes from IFAB not FIFA. The FA are not embarrassed by any little incident in any Manchester United game. You sound like a Liverpool fan - no doubt you will continue to whine and bleat about it for weeks.}

4.) 18 Feb 2018 10:13:17
Keanooh, but that’s not why it has been brought in, if it was then every offside decision would be reviewed to check it was correct, and we really don’t want that.

RedMan, some good pints there, I like the cricket approach of umpires call or the rugby approach which is “I have made a decision, there needs to be something significant for me to change it” approach. The commentators on BT and BBC both watched replays and called it as level but computers were able to spot a hair on his knee that was ahead f the defender. It was comical and as you say, amateurish.

It’s not just us, the Liverpool Spurs game was also farcical.

5.) 18 Feb 2018 10:24:44
What if for example a goal is scored and there is a clear handball in the build up? How long will it be before the debate moves on to var examining all aspects of the build up to the goal just as they sometimes do in Rugby when a try is often disallowed because of something that happened maybe 30 secs before the ball was touched down.

6.) 18 Feb 2018 10:59:17
AJH - I'm not saying all offsides but when an offside decision is reviewed it is a straight question, onside or offside.
I think the offside area of the game presents major problems, it works in instances like yesterday as by millimetres it was correct Mata was offside. We can argue about the process etc but having used VAR the decision was correct.
Where I think it fails is where the referee's assistant (RA) flags for offside the referee awards the free kick but the RA has made the wrong decision and an attacking team is denied a goal scoring opportunity.
To balance it up I would like to see the referee let the game continue where it's a goalscoring opportunity. A goal scoring opportunity isn't just someone through on goal, it could be a winger having the ball wide with players in support who he could pass to after drawing the keeper. If the attacking team gain an advantage, goal / corner then review the RA decision afterwards.
Without spending a lot of time thinking exactly how the advantage would work, the best I can do is to use the above as a starting point.

7.) 18 Feb 2018 11:35:58
I think it's going to take time but ultimately the VAR is a great addition in my opinion. When rugby introduced the Television Match Official there were many teething problems but look at it now, quality.

I think everyone expects everything to be bang on from the get go. It's only giving pundits something to talk about and most of them haven't a clue. By the way wasn't mata offside?

8.) 18 Feb 2018 12:36:35
But what about subjective decisions, angel? Also, is it quality for rugby? It's stop-start constantly. Imagine every decision going to VAR with referees who can't even agree on things after games.

Just get rid of it.

9.) 18 Feb 2018 10:34:46
Ed002 - you couldn't be more wrong, the right decision was made so I don't have a problem with the decision about the goal being disallowed. It's the process which is the issue, looking at the pictures that were sent to TV with the wiggly lines, how could the TV ref be certain of his decision. Surely VAR is there to provide definitive evidence with the offside and looking at the pictures I don't see how it provided that evidence.

{Ed002's Note - I am far from wrong. (a) It is nothing that will embarrass the FA. (b) You are whining - regardless of the decision being right or wrong. Whining.}

10.) 18 Feb 2018 14:25:35
VAR is bad bad bad for the game.

I want there to be contraversial and even wrong decisions from time to time. It's part of football and the game is much richer for it.
Think about the history of contentious decisions and how they have added to the lore of the game. Hirst in 66, the hand of god, lampard's goal against Germany. Every week there is contraversy and it's fun.

Most fun in life exists in the grey areas. When everything is cut and dried, black and white, clinical it's boring. Same with football.

{Ed001's Note - but you then have to worry that every bad decision is down to match fixing. How many times has it been alleged but nothing done because without proof of an official taking the money it is impossible to prove decisions are anything but a genuine mistake?}

11.) 18 Feb 2018 14:45:30
I think VAR is an awful idea . It's only a matter of time until the refs stop making a decision and every thing goes to VAR.
Might as well just get the ref in the tv room to ref it and let the bloke on the pitch know when to blow his whistle.

12.) 18 Feb 2018 15:21:16
Once its refined it will be a good thing. It works well in other sorts. No system will ever be perfect its snout finding the least imperfect model.
The worst part is the lack of communication.
Time and technology moves on lots of people resist change and until its improved var will have its opponents. But once its refined it will be a good thing imo.
But there is a lot of work to do to refine how and when its used. I would be in favour of coaches having 3 reviews per match on goal penalty and red card decisions. Simialar to tennis. So its in the coaches hands not the referees to decide when to review.

13.) 18 Feb 2018 15:59:41
You mustn't watch a lot of rugby sepp. This will be a very good thing once refined. That will take time and I'm sure there will be lots of whinging about it, wouldn't expect anything less. But they have to follow the rugby line, allowing the referee to control the game and on occasion go to the VAR.

14.) 18 Feb 2018 16:35:58
I don't watch it for that reason. I guess we'll see what happens with it. It can't get any worse, can it?

15.) 18 Feb 2018 17:50:02
But many others watch it and I find it much more enjoyable and just with the TMO. Rugby has a far superior refereeing system in place mainly thanks to the governing bodies. They protect their referees at all costs and therefore players have higher amounts of respect.

The VAR will improve no doubt. Those proclaiming it bad for the sport are usually the ones who don't like to see progress because that's what this is.

I read nearly everyday how referee decisions cost teams in games, moaning and whining all the time from fans, pundits etc. Here we are with technology that will alleviate pressure and more than likely allow referees to be better. But what do we have, oh it's not good for the game, oh it slows it down, blaa blaa. 90 percent of football games that I watch anyway are pedestrian and boring. The least they can do is to make sure decisions are correct and don't ruin big games.

16.) 18 Feb 2018 18:43:42
Is that because 90% of the matches you watch are United.?

17.) 18 Feb 2018 18:52:48
That's an interesting comment Ed001.

It has never occured to me that officials might have taken a bung.

Am I naive?

{Ed001's Note - probably mate as I am sure there have been lots.}



18 Feb 2018 05:34:34
There were some great debates yesterday, mainly about Pogba, but I highlighted GDS’s comments that the players are good enough, they just need to show it. Ken also made a point about Pogba being singled out when others perhaps are not. So, here’s my view of a few of our players, and I know some of you will disagree.

Shaw. Huge potential and talent, still very young. Struggled with the move to a big club and by all accounts has not always applied himself. However, seems up for it and has worked hard. No idea why Jose praised him and then immediately dropped him, seems like very crappy man management to me. I think he should be first choice and given a long run. I am confident he will prove his worth and cement the LB spot.

Valencia. Hugely committed, made of granite, never moans, turns up and does his job. Having said that I just don’t see him as a good RB. He gets caught out of position at the back and his crossing, which used to be good, is now pretty hopeless. Love the guy but a, happy for him to be upgraded.

Smalling. Not for me. Looks like a new born lamb, can get bullied, panics on the ball.

Martial. The kid has huge talent but I don’t get the love. He scores great goals but he drifts in and out of games. I find him very frustrating as he looks like he could be the new Henry but he just doesn’t do it consistently. When I hear people talking about how brilliant he is I sit there scratching my head; he could be, but he rarely is? He’s still very young but I’m not sure Jose’s man management will necessarily get the best out of him. Talented as he is, he looks miserable as sin, like he has the world on his shoulders, and I wish he would lighten up.

Lukaku. Wasn’t convinced and still feel that way. Will score goals if he gets service but I don’t think he is at the top level. neither was Andy Cole and he was brilliant fo pr us so maybe Rom can be that player. He has had very little service and must be getting frustrated, if he were to get 3 or 4 chances a game then I suspect he would be u there at the top of the goal scorers charts. His work rate is great, his touch looks to be improving, I’m kind of sat on the fence. I like him, just need to see if he can deliver consistently and particularly in the big games when we need him most.

Rashford. He burst onto the scene when many of us had never heard of him, a meteoric rise from debut to full England international. For whatever reason his form has dropped off this year and I worry about his development. I see a lot of similarities with him and Martial, some favour Martial, some favour Rashford, but both are in similar positions. Hugely talented, inconsistent, and I am guessing both are yet to convince Jose.

Pogba (just to be clear) . Hugely talented, fantastic athlete. He’s played ok in most games and had a couple where he looked great. However, he’s not the player we want him to / think he can be. And he’s not 19, or 21 any more. Shaw, Rash, Martial are still kids really. Pogba has been around the block and should be considered fully developed, he needs to show he can do it consistently. Forget formation, giving the ball away near your own goal is basic stuff. Potentially great player, needs to get his finger out.

I’m all for buying world class players but we have some great talent that is not playing to its potential. Imagine Martial, Lukaku, and Rashford playing to the top of their game up front with Pogba and Sanchez calling the shots behind them. They would scare the pants of the opposition, but sadly we have yet to see a total team performance. The demand for success means players don’t get a run unless they play well. The constant chopping and changing of Marshall and Rashford earlier in the season can’t have helped either of them.

Some will argue, but we have some very talented players who are just not delivering. That could do be their age, personal issues, formation, or Jose’s approach. I worry that Jose will just keep buying players, his approach seems to be pretty blunt in trying to motivate his players, not sure that works for youngsters who need a bit more understanding.


1.) 18 Feb 2018 09:53:20
I think it's in martials locker to have off days and look lazy but the lad has ability to do things others can't he can look really dangerous sometimes, he's fast and skillfully and we have never seen him play twenty odd games up front in a row to know how prolific he could be . He's played mainly left hand side and he has chipped in with goals and assists, I'm not sure the constant rotation helps him, people may say well he has a bad game then he deserves it, will that apply to say Sanchez. i'd rather have players u know have the level needed but are inexperienced so sometimes don't show it than a player who tries hard but just hasn't got the ability. If Sanchez is to play left and lukaku central then martial and rashford are going to have problems subs or the position nobody can make their own on the right . At the end of the day the players need to find the consistency themselves and the manager to make the most of it.

2.) 18 Feb 2018 10:17:06
Slate, I know many really rate Martial but he just frustrates the hell out of me. All that talent yet he drifts in and out of games, ken and I have had our differences but I think he and I agree on Martial. It’s odd as everyone has their favourites, I’m a huge Rashford fan yet Shan thinks he is massively overrated. It suggests that we have a lot of talent but as you have said, they need to show it and nail down a permanent place.

3.) 18 Feb 2018 10:34:40
I totally get why martial can frustrate people I think his body language can make him look uninterested, but he does score goals, provide assists and have the ability to glide past players more than any other utd player . I'm all for rotating when a player is off form but I find Shaw, rash and martial will be rotated regardless of form or if previous performance was good, bad or indifferent . I think it's hard for rash and martial to show consistent form as they are rotated, subbed or moved position every game.

4.) 18 Feb 2018 11:06:22
Totally agree ajh. He has magic in his feet and i don't think he is lazy as such just seems to have rocks for brains.
He does frustrate me.
But that's fans we all have our favourites and have players that we can't see what others do.

For me its obvious if we play 433 sanchez will play left lukaku centre and mata martial rash and jessie will fight it out for that last spot on the right.
Others think martial should start on the left. I suppose we will have to wait and see what jose does.

5.) 18 Feb 2018 11:17:38
Yeah I'm in the martial left, lukaku centre and Sanchez right club ken, three man midfield with pogba the most advanced . We all see it slightly different I guess. I just thought the left didn't need fixing as much as the right . I do get tho Sanchez was good for arsenal from the left but needs must for me.

{Ed004's Note - I agree}

6.) 18 Feb 2018 14:48:55
Martial lukaku Sanchez would be my go to front 3, doesn't really matter which side Sanchez plays he will roam any How.
Mata rash linders are there as well.




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05 Feb 2018 16:40:33

Just shows you didn’t read my post properly, I said I wouldn’t swap Jose for any of them but that didn’t mean they weren’t great Managers.

Your disdain for Rashford is legendary, and your willingness to discard a 20 year old who, despite your view, is just having a rough patch is shameful. There’s no point debating it with you as your mind is closed.




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05 Feb 2018 12:56:47
Syd, well said. The kid is 20 and people are discussing selling him, I despair.




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13 Jan 2018 05:53:05
bfbw, there too much hate in your heart, i'd have had Keown and Suarez any day of the week. Go hug a tree man.




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14 Nov 2017 09:43:03
I like Bale but his injury record just gets worse and worse, I don’t think he is worth the risk any more.




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10 Nov 2017 07:16:04
One word, Bebe.





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25 Feb 2018 07:06:37
Red Man, I see what you are saying but it comes down to has Jose still got it? I don’t think he has and I don’t see him lasting beyond next year. Whilst we are coming at it from different angles I guess we agree that he needs to start to show progress next year. We could finish second this year, or we could finish 5th.




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25 Feb 2018 06:22:16
“Fed and led by Beast” is a bit harsh mate. As is “the decline started 9 years ago”, despite us winning the league in 2009, 2011, and 2013. I agree that SAF’s final few years saw him squeeze every last drop out of the squad he had but isn’t that the key point here? Jose has a far far better squad with some very good players yet he doesn't seem capable of squeezing the bare minimum out of them at the moment. After last year, disappointing football but 2 trophies, I think we all expected us to push on with the signings we made but it hasn’t happened.

Now there are suggestions of a fall out with Pogba, if that mobilises the rest of the players then great but how did we get here. Jose’s famed man management skills appear to be lacking and as I have said several times, I don’t think he is the same Manager any more. His approach is starting to look outdated and he isn’t having the effect on players he used to have when he first arrived.

I th No you are Leighton older than me but I’m not arrogant, I’ve been there through the ‘70’s and 80’s when we were at best a cup team. But you know what? Other than Sexton I enjoyed going to games. Lately, watching us has become painful, made even worse by seeing the football that City, Liverpool, and Spurs play.

So, just to be clear.

1. Jose is nowhere near getting the best out of these players.
2. The way we play is not the United way and if this is how we win trophies then I am not interested.
3. Win today and we maybe get a moment to regather and press again. Lose, and the momentum is with others and God knows how Jose will react.

Jose is apparently one of the best Managers in the world, according to some on here, the best. He needs to start showing it.




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25 Feb 2018 06:11:00
Blimey, Ed002 predicting a 3-0 away win, not sure I can see that happening.




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24 Feb 2018 23:48:40
I’m interested to see what happens. After a very positive start to the season there appears to be something not right at the moment. It could be a power struggle, it could just be players are out of form, it could be Jose’s tactics or man management, but it makes tomorrow’s game massive. Slowly but surely we have been caught and we now have several teams breathing down our necks.




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24 Feb 2018 22:17:44
In which case we are buggered.