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24 Mar 2018 10:31:23
There are some that said Jesse wasn’t good enough and I guess there are still some that think he is at best a squad player but you have to give the lad credit. He keeps popping up scoring important goals and he plays with a smile on his face and seems to enjoy every moment. I’m so pleased for him and I hope he can take that final step and be consistent.


1.) 24 Mar 2018 16:25:04
He has always been highly thought off within the club. It was always accepted that he would take longer to find his feet due to his size. I read an interview with him where he said that Sir Alex always said he would become a real player when he's 25 like Tigana. I wonder how much of him really stepping up this season is down to him feeling that this year was going to be his year.

I did worry when we signed Sanchez as it was going to push either Lingard or Martial out of the side when arguably they we our best two forwards at that time. Maybe its time for Sanchez to be dropped for a game or two and make him fight for his place against players who are in form.

2.) 24 Mar 2018 16:40:40
Shaps, I don’t know why we bought Sanchez other than to stop City buying him. We had needs inother areas way before a left sided attacker was needed and even if he starts firing it just relegates Martial or Rashford. This smacks of Woodward and his marque signing obsession. I don’t want to upset you but if Bale is available you can bet your mortgage Ed will be there waving his chequebook.

3.) 24 Mar 2018 16:46:51
The thing with Jesse is you know he will work on the pitch and not hide. He has proven this year that he has more in the locker than people thought imo but he had the beginnings of a good season couple of years back when he got ani injury early on at Swansea I think. Change of personel and management has not deterred him and I think he has saved us a good few bob on bringing in a n other player.

4.) 24 Mar 2018 16:58:44
I was one of those thinking he wasn't going to be up to it and would be sold, at times I feel foolish, but then he can be anonymous far too often for me (like most of our attacking players) .

I still think in order for us to be competing at the very top we need better than Lingard. But if he improves again as much as he has over the past 18 months then he will deserve a regular berth in a top Utd team.

I love his energy and clever runs, maybe there is even more to come from him once we get back to playing proper attacking football and those runs will be picked out by players that currently refuse the pass and opt for 'safety' instead. I certainly would like him to impact games more consistently as well, 10 seconds of brilliance now and again is good, but we need more than that over a 90 minute match from an attacking midfielder.

5.) 24 Mar 2018 17:39:38
I agree Beastand that was my point about consistency. When he is good he is very good but often you can forget he is on the pitch, which is very frustrating when he gets himself in such good positions and scores such important goals. He needs to turn up for more games than he does, which I think he will if he continues to develop as he has done in the last year. And he is home grown which means a lot to me,

6.) 24 Mar 2018 17:52:11
Does he go missing or as mentioned above is it a case of him making good runs and his team mates not playing the creative pass to find him?

The best players score in the big games, which he does more consistently than those around him. H deserves his place in the team, he works hard, he offers movement and he can finish. I think he will thrive if we add more quality to the midfield. He is a bit of a social media whore, but as long as he performs on the pitch it’s not a problem. I wish pogba put half the effort in he does.

7.) 24 Mar 2018 18:33:58
Agree with all of the posts regarding jesse in some degree, better than dele alli in my opinion who plays a similar role especially this season.

8.) 25 Mar 2018 05:21:49
I must be the only one who doesn't yet rate him. He for me is going through his Smalling patch where player looks good for a season or 2 but with lingard it has only been 2 months rather than the whole season.

He was mostly anonymous until December and has been anonymous for most part since February. That is 2 good months in 3-4 years. Yes he scores some important goals from time to time but he going to have to perform much better to be more than a squad player.

9.) 25 Mar 2018 16:58:04
No MU player apart from De Gea has been sensational for long, playing good for some time and then playing poorly.

10.) 26 Mar 2018 14:14:47
CSM, that's not really fair, even if he's only started looking like a real top player this season, he's actually been doing well for the last couple of years. He was hardly "anonymous" before December anyway. 8 goals and assists in 17 games, 11 of which he played 30 minutes or less in, may not be setting the league on fire, but it's certainly not "anonymous".

Re: the consistency, I'm inclined to agree with Huggy. He's suffering from the way the team is playing, and would have a much more consistent impact if the runs he makes were picked out a bit more often by players behind him. Now, I'm not saying he's doing everything right, maybe he'd still be a bit inconsistent with players behind him looking for those runs and playing more positive football, but the point is that we don't really know, and I don't think it's fair to judge him too harshly when we don't really know how much of the inconsistency is down to him, and how much is down to the way the teamas a whole is playing.

I would really love to see Herrera used in a more advanced role, ahead of Matic rather than alongside him, where he can look to play the passes that someone like Lingard can feed on. It's too easy to see his great defensive performances last season and forget that he's a great passer of the ball, with an eye for getting team mates in behind the defence.

11.) 26 Mar 2018 14:23:10
That FA cup winning goal seemed to really kick him on and he’s improved a lot since then.


How you can say he’s been anonymous is beyond me, he’s probably scored more important goals than any other player in the last 2 years.

12.) 26 Mar 2018 14:53:27
Gds important goals don't mean consistency. Yes he scored against Chelsea and in fa cup final but can you remember a run of games until December where you could say he was consistently good. A first team player needs to be consistently good and unlike rashford or martial lingard isn't exactly in the youngster category.

Thorne he has been good this season but last season he had 5 goals and 3 assists in 42 games in lvg's last season he had 7 goals and 4 assists in 41 games. Those are not good figures and he needs get similar to his current nos before we can be sure that he has improved rather than going through a purple patch.

Also where exactly will he play next season jose wants savic added to the team and jorginho as replacement for carrick, so we most likely will be switching to a mf 3.

13.) 30 Mar 2018 18:44:50
Good player, nice lad, silly dancer.



17 Feb 2018 08:31:11
Interesting rumour this morning, Real ready to move for Pogba. Could be paper trash talk of course but if they did and the money was big, would you sell? Clearly the boy has talent but he has yet to dominate a game or deliver on his potential. Is that down to him, the Manager, or a combination of both.

If the money was silly should we cash in? The problem with that is that he may go on and become the dominating player we believe is in there somewhere, and replacing him will cost a fortune too. For me, I’d seriously consider it though.


{Ed002's Note - There is zero interest in Paul Pogba from Real Madrid. They have very, very different ideas who they want.}

1.) 17 Feb 2018 11:41:22
There is no way we should be selling Pogba it would be crazy to do so.

Its likr selling the next messi and then trying to go buy a next ronaldo because we are noy patient enough.

2.) 17 Feb 2018 11:59:12
"Cash in" wtf? So some now want to sell Pogba when we have few midfielders for a pretty poor return? You bored with FIFA?

3.) 17 Feb 2018 11:20:17
Yay. Thanks ed for that.



12 Jan 2018 21:19:21
All this talk of Sanchez has masked the rumour that Vardy is also being considered. Not sure if they would sell or at what price but I think he would slot in much easier, albeit he is a like for like with Lukaku. Sanchez’s attitude worries me, the stories from Arsenal about his isolationist approach do not bode well for team spirit. Hey ho, what do I know?


1.) 12 Jan 2018 21:28:45
I hope not. Hateful diving git, Gerrard, suarez, terry, barton, keown, cattermole, Vardy. all the same to me would of hated to see any of them in a red shirt.

2.) 12 Jan 2018 23:05:33
That's one heck of a team those lot would make. Lacks some wide players tho.

3.) 13 Jan 2018 05:53:05
bfbw, there too much hate in your heart, i'd have had Keown and Suarez any day of the week. Go hug a tree man.

4.) 13 Jan 2018 08:10:14
AJH Vardy is a player Maze likes and admired over the years for his tenacity as well as his rags to riches story but to say he is a better option than Sanchez is silly, very silly.

Wake up AJH you are dreaming of poorly fabricated scenarios.



08 Dec 2017 20:28:41
So, first of all, I share my birthday with Jonny Evans so put that your pipe and smoke it. Secondly, I may have had a little wine tonight so forgive me if I am less coherent than Ronnie during a transfer window.

Sunday is a big game and I hope that Jose wakes up and has an epiphany but I fear it will not happen. I believe it is better to die fighting than running away and in football that is also true. Inspire the troops, give them hope and belief, rouse their spirits, fill their hearts with pride and desire. Let’s not turn up to stifle and try and nick a goal on the break. I don’t care if they are the best team, like Pierre the famous French fighter pilot, let’s go down in flames (google it) .

We are United, a team steeped in history and tradition, we live or die by our standard, there are times to stand up and be counted, Sunday is one of those times. We win, or we lose in a blaze of glory, to be a United fan there are no in betweens.

Time for more wine.


1.) 09 Dec 2017 01:43:34
Jesse's performance at Arsenal will have given him food for thought. Maybe we can press high with a few players and cause some chaos amongst their back line. Worry is that Matic and Ander would have to play out of their skins.

The motivational piece is way more important than formation. Win your battles all over the pitch and you'll get a win.

2.) 09 Dec 2017 10:50:17
We’ll park the bus and try to catch them on the counter and via set pieces.



27 Aug 2017 19:14:26
Just caught up with MOTD, I thought all our players played well. Amongst other things that stood out though:

1. Joe Hart, wow, surely he isn't England's goalie any more
2. Anyone else warming to Rafa? No? Just me?
3. City, still not convincing and I think strong teams will bully them.
4. Shearer has become a half cent pundit since he stopped sitting on the fence.
5. Phil Neville, got to love him, is he the most positive person in the world ever?
6. Swansea possibly not as bad as we have thought.
7. Bilic and De Boer have to be worried although after today's debacle, perhaps Wenger will be first to go.


1.) 27 Aug 2017 20:35:38
Pretty much agree with everything there mate.
I was saying to my lad yesterday that if this palace squad go down it's the best squad ever to be relegated.

2.) 27 Aug 2017 00:43:07
Phil Neville really annoys me. He's so biased it's unbelievable. Agree with the rest. De Boer is no surprise, he was abysmal at inter. Played some disgraceful football there.




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15 Apr 2018 18:21:46
Last week we beat the best side in the country away from home, this week we lost to the worst side in the League at OT. The issue, as always, is why we seem incapable of playing fast attacking football for more than 30 minutes every couple of months.

Pogba turned in a MOTM performance last week, this week he was dreadful. Lethargic, lazy, casual, never in the game. How is it possible that he can be so different one week later?

This season we be lost at Newcastle and Huddersfield, drew at home to Burnley and Southampton and let’s not forget getting knocked out of the League Cup by Bristol City. We seem to be able to raise purse
View for the big games but not the bread and butter games.

Jose seemed to know today would be an issue, before the game he was urging the players to forget last week which was a worrying sign. But surely as Manager he needed to deal with it and get their heads right. I’ve watched some dull games but I struggle to think of many as dull as today’s.

Congratulations to Pep, he bought well, improved what he had, and played some amazing football. None of which Jose did. We are so far behind City it is embarrassing. Despite the league table I think Liverpool have momentum and if they don’t pip us to second I expect them to continue to progress next year; with the right signings they will be a threat.

As for our team, we have some good players who for whatever reason can’t seem to play well very often so (are you listening Kenneth), it might be time for a clear out. I’m not a huge fan of Matic, Pogba flatters to deceive, Lukaku is not at the level we need, full backs are ageing wingers, I could go on. After the high of last week I am just so disappointed at what we saw today.


1.) 15 Apr 2018 18:32:53
As with your competition at the begging of the season, I put Liverpool to finish 2nd, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see it happen. They’re currently a better side than us, no doubt about it, and with Keita coming in they will challenge for the title next year.

2.) 15 Apr 2018 19:00:28
We have some very good players at the club. We have some very average players at the club. I think we agree on that AJH
Their is no leadership on the pitch.
I was expecting to see a very different team today with maybe matic lukaku and young on the bench with a view to next week and getting some game time into martial shaw rash or mctom.

3.) 15 Apr 2018 18:47:59
City have been magnificent all season and guardiola has worked wonders so hats off and well done city.

As far as we go it seems whenever there is a bit of good feeling and positivity about the club something like this happens and it's worrying I must say .

Today was completely unacceptable we were completely dreadful and I just can't understand it surely after last week we should have been full of it, eager to ruin their party for another week and we roll over and get our bellies tickled again by quite possibly the worst team to stink the league up.

I thought last week was a turning point for pogba I naively thought that we were going to start seeing the player we thought we bought, but no we got the non existent show pony yet again.

Matic looks to be a 100 years old and knackered, our full backs I don't even know where to start so I won't.

The manager has a whole lot to answer for but some of these players are stealing a living at our club.

4.) 15 Apr 2018 18:49:31
Good post AJH.
Just heard Jose post match interview and also pundits which makes sense about Jose not sure what will turn out from who. I agree we need some real clearing as players egos are in play and threaten the club’s progress and success. Consistency is obviously lacking.
It cannot be we played well last week and so dross today. If we need to then we need to really clear. We can provide the environment for the players but if they just roller coaster then I agree with you we clear.
That said kudos to Pep for getting Citeh to win. Well done.



12 Apr 2018 21:10:38
As Felipe Massa once said, ‘I know how to win, I know how to lose. Sadly, the greatest goalkeeper of his generation doesn’t know how to lose. Nobody died, it was a game of football and one team had to win and one team had to lose. We can argue about the penalty but the decision was made and nothing was going to change it. Get over it, get on with your life, congratulate the opposition and hold your head high. Lose like a man you wuss.

The reaction of Buffon and the Italian press sums up everything that is wrong with our game. The recent cheating scandal in cricket led to a witch hunt against 3 cricketers, yet footballers seek to gain unfair advantages in every game. There’s the small things, appealing for throw ins and corners that they know aren’t theirs, putting the ball an inch outside of the quadrant at corners, wasting time in a way that they can get away with, wrestling players in the area. Then there’s the next level, waving imaginary cards to get an opposition player booked, mouthing off to the referee and his assistants when they don’t get a decision, diving when there has been no contact.

Buffon’s reaction was in the heat of the moment but to then make the statements he did was outrageous. Many decisions are contentious, even with VAR there have been disagreements over whether a penalty should have been given (I disagreed with the one against England) but rubbish happens. Football needs to take a long hard look at itself in the way that Australian cricket is having to do. There has been a gradual erosion of any semblance of fair play, winning is everything at any cost.

If you mouth off to a referee you should be booked (minimum), if you gesticulate, wag your finger, shake you head, or sarcastically applaud you should be booked, if you waste time you should be booked, if you hold a player or pull a shirt you should be booked, if you wave an imaginary card you should be booked.

The governing bodies need to take back control of the game and slap the players down. They are too big for their boots and the clubs are too powerful so the officials are kicked around in the press. The standard of refereeing may not be great but the way Managers talk about refs is not on. I can’t not support my team but I really hope my boy finds another sport to follow. The behaviour in football is not an example I want him to aspire to.


1.) 12 Apr 2018 21:44:48
Top post. Football needs to move along the lines of rugby. I recall Dylan Hartley getting a huge ban for calling Wayne Barnes a F’ing Cheat.

2.) 12 Apr 2018 21:59:14
I'd give him the benefit of the doubt, Tony. I know he did wrong, but for me, he's got a lot of classy actions and behaviour in the bank.

3.) 12 Apr 2018 23:31:00
and the buffoon said navas is better than de gea, i think that said it all.

4.) 12 Apr 2018 22:59:05
Theres been cheating going on in cricket for years its just that Australia got caught but your right in regards to tougher punishments should be dished out to players that show dissent towards officials.

5.) 13 Apr 2018 03:23:49
Real madrid and Barcelona are always favoured in europe
. Remember nani's red card.

6.) 13 Apr 2018 06:14:04
It’s not just Buffon Stevie, he’s just the latest aggressive example. Week after week players gesticulate and swear at officials and no action is taken. We ask why fans behave so badly, perhaps it’s because of what they see on the pitch.

There are things chanted at games that would get you arrested if you did it anywhere else but nothing is said. Our own club issued a statement asking fans to stop singing a song about Lukaku’s penis, but they don’t seem bothered about the vile chants directed at Liverpool fans. My boy’s first experience of the C word was at OT sung by 1000’s at the top of their voice. Football has lost its way at so many levels.

Fans talk about hating other teams, hate is a strong word (as you well know) . All perspective appears to have been lost, I have no answers but the game is heading in the wrong direction and nobody n authority seems to care.

{Ed001's Note - it is a big change from the 1930s. I was doing research for an article and found a big furore about the behaviour of football fans back then. It created a big fuss because they jeered opposing teams and 'lacked respect'. The football authorities responded by saying that they behaved better than cricket fans at least! I think cricket fans must have upset locals by snoring too loudly or something, I can't imagine anything else anyone would do when they watch that snoozefest ;-)

7.) 13 Apr 2018 06:47:27
I pressed send too early. I th No it’s been a creeeping sickness where little things start to become accepted and then mor elittle things and it just gradually gets worse. People shrug their shoulders and we all move on. The attack on the actor bus was obscene yet I doubt any lessons will be learned or anything will be done. City are outraged but look at the behavioir of some of their fans in the return leg, the irony is lost on them.

Players take serious abuse but if they give any back fans are outraged and the police are sometimes asked to get involved. Players are fair game because they earn a lot of money and are in the public eye. Really? Is that what our society has become? It’s not just football, you only have to look at social media to see he moral vacuum that exists across a whole swathe of society which is why people roll their eyes and accept some of the things that go on.

Football can be a force for good, in some ways it is, but it is missing so much opportunity to take the lead. I don’t think we will ever fix it, things have gone too far. We have had fans attacking players, players attacking referees, these are extreme examples but every week players are screaming at officials whilst the watching mob chants obscenities. So, where along the way the word ‘sport’ took on a whole new meaning.

{Ed001's Note - it has never gone too far for people to make changes, just look at how the #metoo movement has taken hold. It just needs people to stand together and refuse to accept the situation any longer. Get a few celebs on board and all the moronic sheep on social media will jump on the bandwagon.}

8.) 13 Apr 2018 08:02:54
AJH - I don't think it's just football, society has changed sadly not for the better. At non league level (almost village football) you hear the moronic fans / managers and players using the 'F' word constantly.
You walk through town and you hear women using the 'F' word in normal conversation, not something I want to hear from ladies. I'm not making excuses for the men as it's just as bad but being of a senior age it always sounds worse from women.
Back to football, the situation with players abusing officials has a simple solution, issue yellow / red cards as appropriate and it will soon stop. Not sure why the powers that be don't issue a directive to the officials to clamp down, by not doing so they are condoning the actions. It always amazes me that just because someone pays £40 to watch a game of football they seem to think it entitles them to abuse players / opposing supporters on a level that would not be deemed acceptable in a public place and would most likely lead to their arrest. The very same fans become precious when a player reacts a la Gary Neville against Liverpool and start whinging and whining about it despite the fact they have been abusing the same player all through the game.
Whereas I think behaviour on the pitch can be controlled if the will is there to enforce the laws of the game, I'm not sure how we change society.

9.) 13 Apr 2018 08:13:35
Great posts Tony. Completely agree.

10.) 13 Apr 2018 08:33:50
Agree totally, mate.

11.) 13 Apr 2018 09:59:20
Do you not think juventus where waiting to get shafted?
I think k they expected it.

12.) 13 Apr 2018 11:29:51
I think Buffon was on the brink of one of footballs most amazing results and anger and sheer disappointment just spilled out it's not rite but how have we all felt as fans nevermind players when we perceive an injustice has cost us .
Wether refs favour certain teams I don't know but sometimes it certainly can appear that way . I've always thought England have had way more than their fair share of dodgy ref decisions at tournaments phantom goals, iffy sending offs, wrongly disallowed goals, handballs and keepers charging off the line in shootouts . For anyone that plays poker maybe the saying you only remember bad beats and quickly forget when lady luck was on yr side comes to mind . The 66 goal was all that springs to mind for England benefiting, I'm sure there's more but I've long since forgotten the good luck but the bad things IL remember forever . The Irish lads will probably remember Henry's handball way longer than any good fortune they have had .

13.) 13 Apr 2018 12:39:40
What do they say,
Rugby is a thugs game played by gentlemen
Football is a gentlemen's game played by thugs.

14.) 13 Apr 2018 12:41:25
Smith and Warner both got off lightly. They should've been banned for life. Cheating isn't a mistake its cheating and a few crocodile tears at a press conference doesn't make up for that.

That said its about time football started handing out proper punishments to players and clubs caught cheating.

15.) 13 Apr 2018 16:36:45
Some great posts here, something similar came up on lfc's page the other day.

I believe the football authorities should go cap in hand to the rugby refs and copy everything they do, the respect is earned by the refs being consistent in dealing with any disrespectful players.

Ed's 001 I think, suggested straight after a match, the officials sit down and re-watch the match and if any player has cheated, ie dived, retrospective ban, if they missed blatant foul retro card and so on.

People generally want to be honest, the culture in football is just so wrong.

16.) 13 Apr 2018 21:17:04
Top top post AJH. Time for a change. org campaign somebody? Or has that been tried?

17.) 14 Apr 2018 06:29:47
Well we had the Respect campaign but it had no teeth.



08 Apr 2018 07:48:54
Just watched the highlights again and noticed a few more things.

1. 3 assists for Sanchez, he may not be hitting the heights yet but he knows how to deliver a ball.
2. After our first goal, every player immediately ran back to the restart, no celebration, no jumping about, Pogba went and collected the ball to get back on with it. Great to see the determination after a poor first half.
3. For our second goal, Pogba passes the ball from the centre circle and then runs forward, he doesn’t have to break his stride and just runs on to the cross. We need to see more of this.
4. A great second half from Pogba showing us the player we thought we were buying but where was he in the first half? I’m not seeking to criticise him, I’m just trying to understand the huge difference we see in him, not just yesterday but through the season.
5. Hats off to Herrera, doesn’t play for ages and then does what he does, tidy, committed, energetic, and a brilliant lay off from his chest. I’d like to see this team carry on.
6. What a save from DDG. All the focus is on Pogba but yet another incredible save from DDG to keep us ahead.

The final point, as ever, is why don’t we see this type of play more often? One good half does not make us world beaters. We have more points, scored more goals, conceded fewer than last year and will more than likely finish second which is progress (although we may not win a trophy) . You can see the potential in this team, we just need to consistently deliver it.


1.) 08 Apr 2018 09:17:09
That is the baffling thing Tony, why don’t we see the level of performance more often and I can’t put my finger on it, maybe was a lack of belief but yesterday showed the fans and themselves that they have it in them to be expansive and beat anyone. We’ve beaten all our rivals this season, ok some have beaten us too but if we can find that consistency we will be hard to stop.
Totally agree on Sanchez, seeing more from him now, could be a game changer for us next season and who knows this could be a turning point for Pogba, the news that came out then that performance, I hope someone shows him that 2 minute spell and says this is what your about, Herrera needs to be in this starting line up for me going forward or if Jose doesn’t fancy him a player like him, it’s of benefit to Matic and Pogba.
Top second half and tho it only delays the inevitable this will hurt city from now into next season, I don’t see teams rolling over next year like they have this for them.

2.) 08 Apr 2018 09:29:09
Great result can't make my mind up about the performance .
Some real positives but city could of maybe should of got something from the game . Don't want beating city to turn in to our cup final but it was great to see a proper derby yesterday .
Lot better more entertaining game yesterday than what we have seen for a while .
First half very poor second we showed some bottle .
Herrera for me had a good game both half and pogba showed in the second what he can do .
Can never understand the clamour to get rid of players I would far rather see talented players like pogba playing well next season at United.

3.) 08 Apr 2018 10:45:21
De geas kick for citys second goal was abysmal. Apart from a few games this season (arsenal springs to mind) i think de gea hasn't lived up to the lofty expectations he has set.

4.) 08 Apr 2018 11:06:17

De Gea is the best out there atm. One bad kick does not define a keepers standing. Plus witg the way that pitch is watered i'd be bricking it every backpass! Normally his distribution is top notch.

To be fair he has let a few in this season where I think he might have done better but saves like that last night defies logic. The way he twisted his hand to push that ball over amazes me. Such little reaction and thought time. Saves like that are as good as a goal scored. In which case he's probably on 15 for the season then!

5.) 08 Apr 2018 12:17:49
Top performance yesterday just what we need from players putting on the shirt.

There are reasons why some players play in the big games and some dont, De Gea again showed why he is the best.

Smalling needs replacing with a better center half and so does the full backs.

The rest of the team played well.

6.) 08 Apr 2018 12:43:08
My only criticism of de Gea is that he tends to be slow off his line, forcing defenders to make clearances of balls he could be collecting. This is especially problematic when you have defender like Smalling in front of you, who often seems to panic and get his feet tangled up, turning clearances and throw-ins into corners. Other than that he constantly demonstrates his claim to be the No 1 goalie in the world.

7.) 08 Apr 2018 13:02:31
I agree with DSG and Shawthing on de gea. I've said this many times before. He gets stuck to his line too much for my liking but he's the best shot stopper around and his distribution is excellent.
In answer to AJH initial post, we play cautiously as the manager instructs them to be cautious. Then we go 2 goals down and could and should have been 4 down at half time so the team talk goes as follows :
"Ok boys, my tactics were good but you didn't obey them, what shall we do in 2nd half? " To which the players answer "why don't you go back to your hotel and order your room service and watch Netflix and leave us to play attacking football and display what we're capable of".
And AJH, that's the reason why we don't play like that more often. The manager is too busy shutting the opposition down and not enough effort is made to attack. There was one occasion when we were 3-2 up and got a free kick and smalling was signalling to the bench if it was ok for him to go up into an attacking position. It is baffling.

8.) 08 Apr 2018 13:14:29
As a former keeper one miss-kick per game is good going and the pace of a Utd -City derby would I imagine create a lot more in 90 mins
DDG is the best around and made up later in game. I would of saved the second goal when I was in my prime and DDG looked like he was disappointed he didn't get to it. 😆😆.



07 Apr 2018 20:27:17
What a remarkable game and where to start? After the revelations the day before I expected Pogba to step up and show his commitment to the club but in the first half he was bang average; our stand out player was Herrera making us all wonder why he has not been picked this year. We huffed and puffed and took the game to City but when hey stepped us a gear we couldn’t live with them.

Mike lost his head at a corner and suddenly we were 1 down, then they cut through us like a knife through butter and we were 2 down staring into an abyss: the horrors of City setting a record for the earliest title win by beating us was becoming all too likely. But then half time arrived and Jose got a chance to rally the troops. And boy, what a rally!

I don’t know what he said to Pogba but what a difference, an energetic, focused display with 2quality goals. Let’s give credit to Herrera for a beautiful chest down into the path of PP for the first goal, another exam0le fo why he should have been playing more. And then onto the winner, Mike making up for his mistake by volleying home from a great cross.

So what does this tell us?

1. City are not all that. Too many teams have shown them too much respect and sat back. Get after that and they struggle.
2. Herrera should play more. He is committed, and he is quality. PP was picked for weeks when he was pants, Herrera must be wondering WTF is going on.
3. Lukaku can have a poor game and we can still score 3.
4. We really aren’t that bad. When we play freely and go for it we can compete with anyone. Jose, are you listening?!
5. Chris is both brilliant and crap, personally I think he needs to be replaced but you can’t fault his commitment and effort, which we can’t say about all put players.
6. City don’t like it up ‘em, boy did they get tetchy when they were behind.
7. Pep is class, his post match interview was top notch.
8. Jose showed some class, apparently he congratulated Pep on the title at the end of the game.
9. DDG is the best in the world, another mind blowing save.
10. No idea what Jose said at half time but my God it worked.

My main take from the game was Pogba. He has the ability to be one of the best in the world but he rarely does it for more than half an hour a game, and then not that often. If he could do it for an hour a game consistently he would be right up there, I remain to be convinced.

So, onwards to next year, hopefully more teams will get at a City and take points off them and we will improve and get more points which means we might actually have a contest.


1.) 07 Apr 2018 20:56:21
Look what happens when you allow him to play further up the pitch he scores goals.

{Ed004's Note - That formation played today was what we should be building on. Sign fullbacks and Alderwereild/Umtitti before next season and we will have a formidable side}

2.) 07 Apr 2018 21:06:03
As I said, I don’t think we are that bad, I keep banging on that we have not been playing to our potential. Not sure where the issue is but it needs sorting, I think we are only a couple of players away from being a top side (assuming we get our existing players playing to the top of their game) .

I love Herrera, he epitomises everything I look for in a player, what a game he had today. Pogba could be world class, as could Sanchez. Martial and Rashford have huge potential, Jesse keeps developing, I think full backs and CBs are the issue, a top class solid defence will allow cour midfield and forwards to crack on and do damage. Perhaps a solid CM who can control a game and dominate the pitch is what we are missing.

{Ed004's Note - Completely agree AJH. We have beaten City, Lpool, Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea this season and that can't all be down to luck. We are second and deservedly so. Any other normal season and we would be bang in the middle of a title race or leading it}

3.) 07 Apr 2018 21:14:45
I've said it before and I'll say it again Pogba is a runner. He makes fantastic runs from midfield into the box. For both of his goals he was our most advanced player! The problem is he can leave us exposed when a move breaks down especially when he's playing in a two. He's brilliant at breaking from midfield and when he gets into advanced positions he also has quality on the ball.

From his post match press conference it's obvious that Carrick has been working with him which is very encouraging.

I think Pogba can also be just as effective in a two but we must understand that sometimes we'll be exposed when he vacates the midfield and a move breaks down. He must be allowed to run and break from midfield where he is so difficult to pick up. We'll gain a lot more than we lose and in the big games I'd always revert to a midfield three to provide more defensive cover.

I'm delighted for him and the one thing I will say is he never hides. He dragged us back into that game from the brink of collapse when others looked scared to be on the pitch.

On a different note I thought Jose post match comments we're very revealing. Smalling and Bailly were so poor in that first half. They we're both hiding and didn't have the courage on the ball and gave us absolutely no platform to play.

{Ed004's Note - Very good post. I agree with you that Pogba needs that license to get forward. I watched Souness and all discussing Pogba after the game and it was frustrating me that they were all saying that his best attribute is his athleticism. I thought that was doing him an injustice. Personally, I think it's his passing ability and that why's both the French manager and Jose have tried to develop him into a quarterback kind of role however he just don't have the defensive awareness or focus for that role.}

4.) 07 Apr 2018 21:48:18
I totally agree Ed. He passing is very good, he can also dribble and shoot. I also think they were doing him a great disservice but I do understand the point they we're trying to make. Those runs he makes ahead of the ball are so hard to pick up and he's also very good at carrying the ball forward on the counter. Unfortunately he definitely leaves us exposed defensively at times and that's why sometimes he needs an extra midfield to cover for him.

Your absolutely spot on I think Jose wants to use his ability on the ball more to help us dictate the tempo of the game from deeper positions but his natural inclination is to make runs forward. He's not great out of possession and your absolutely right he lacks defensive responsibility, doesn't track runners and let's people run off him. On a positive note there aren't many midfielders in Europe that can break so devastatingly from midfield. He really is unique in many respects and we have such a powerful weapon if we could just somehow find the right balance and release him to do what he does best. Maybe as he ages his game might develop and change to become more of a deep lying play maker but at the moment we should let him burst forward from midfield and let other teams worry about him rather than asking him to perform a role that at this stage of his career doesn't make the best of his unique talents.

{Ed004's Note - I can understand where they are coming from but at this stage in his career he doesn't have either the experience or desire to play deep in our midfield. As he gets older I could see him becoming a better version of Matic if his defensive play improves with experience. I think our priority (after fullbacks) now should be getting someone to play beside him and Matic that can dictate a game but has energy (upgraded Herrera basically) so someone like Veratti, prime Modric or Thiago}

5.) 07 Apr 2018 22:06:26
Yeah I agree Ed another interesting summer ahead.

6.) 07 Apr 2018 22:25:14
Sorry Eds if my earlier posts didn't get posted because of what i wrote.

Totally agree with Danny, Ed and Ajh.

Today really was some what of a turn around for some players and it has made me so proud being a Manchester United fan.

We would really be even more formidable with two proper full backs, cb and a midfield partner for Matic and Pogba.

Great great game.

{Ed004's Note - I'm not going to lie I've no idea what post you'll be referring to as there were so many that got deleted at half time. I'm hoping it'll be a lesson for the future in that the game isn't over at ht. Very happy with the attitude and drive shown by the players in the second half. They didn't act like players who didn't have faith in the manager}

7.) 07 Apr 2018 23:36:52
Totally agree with that ed. It wasnt at half time when i posted. I would never do that as i am very busy watching the match.

It was the post which included Guardiola as Fraudiola 😂😂😂.

Today the players were hurt and showed what it meant to be wearing that shirt.

{Ed004's Note - I didn't see the post so can't comment on it. Great reaction from the players today}

8.) 07 Apr 2018 22:11:26
Herrera was very good probably our best player .
For Danny and 025 why do think pogba wants to leave.

{Ed025's Note - i have never said that pogba wants to leave jred..

9.) 08 Apr 2018 12:30:30
Neither did I in fact I really hope he stays he's potentially a world class player. I recognise his obvious talent and think if we can fit him into a system where we can make the most of his attributes we'll be a force to be reckoned with.

I have absolutely no idea if he wants to leave or not, what I desperately want is for Pogba to fulfil his immense potential at our Club!



07 Apr 2018 15:16:28
Saw a great stat today in an interview with Nicky Butt. Apparently there are 64 players in the top 2 tiers who came through our Academy. That’s a very impressive number. Our under 23s may be struggling but we still have one of the best records of bringing get our own through. I expect Jesse and Rashford to feature today, possibly McTominay too. I don’t think we’ll see th class of ‘92 again but I’m all for growing our own. Even when they don’t make it at United we seem to have a very good feeder chain going for clubs in the top 2 tiers. I’d be amazed if any other club can match those numbers.


1.) 07 Apr 2018 15:43:01
Can you name them anybody😆😆.

2.) 07 Apr 2018 15:57:35
And it’s over 80 years snce we didn’t have a home grown player in the match day squad (Red Man was there I believe 😄) . That’s another incredible record which I don’t believe will ever be seen again amongst the top clubs.

3.) 07 Apr 2018 18:34:43
pity we can't find another giggs or scholes.




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19 Apr 2018 19:35:10
What happened to Ronnie? The king is dead, long live the king.




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24 Mar 2018 17:39:38
I agree Beastand that was my point about consistency. When he is good he is very good but often you can forget he is on the pitch, which is very frustrating when he gets himself in such good positions and scores such important goals. He needs to turn up for more games than he does, which I think he will if he continues to develop as he has done in the last year. And he is home grown which means a lot to me,




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24 Mar 2018 16:41:40
Park, is it ludicrous? Apparently / allegedly he was loner at Arsenal too. He may be a great player but I’m not sure how social he is.


{Ed001's Note - he has never been particularly sociable which caused him problems as Barca with Messi. Some people just do not want to go out on nights out with the lads, they are homebodies.}



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24 Mar 2018 16:40:40
Shaps, I don’t know why we bought Sanchez other than to stop City buying him. We had needs inother areas way before a left sided attacker was needed and even if he starts firing it just relegates Martial or Rashford. This smacks of Woodward and his marque signing obsession. I don’t want to upset you but if Bale is available you can bet your mortgage Ed will be there waving his chequebook.




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05 Feb 2018 16:40:33

Just shows you didn’t read my post properly, I said I wouldn’t swap Jose for any of them but that didn’t mean they weren’t great Managers.

Your disdain for Rashford is legendary, and your willingness to discard a 20 year old who, despite your view, is just having a rough patch is shameful. There’s no point debating it with you as your mind is closed.





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21 Apr 2018 14:44:06
I’m with Timbo, I was at Villa Park that day. 1-0 down to a Woodcock goal and then screamers from Robson and Whiteside, all 3 goals at my end. I guess ‘99 is up there as well, down to 10 men and conceding a penalty in the last minute. Football, bloody hell.




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21 Apr 2018 08:16:38
Ed, he’s shown he can be half decent but only rarely. I didn’t really watch him at Juve. It since we signed him I have been disappointed 90% of the time. Forget the fee, in almost 2 seasons how many games has he dominated? I would say none. Influenced? Less than 10. It doesn’t hel that he prances around like he thinks he’s a superstar when his achievements on the pitch just don’t live up to the hype. Everyone is desperate for him to come good but I think he lacks maturity. Maybe as he gets older he might make the most of his talents but right now I fear he is wasting them.


{Ed001's Note - he played the same way at Juve. Flashes of skill. That was it. He just needs to work on being more of a team player, imo. As for the hair etc, I wouldn't worry too much about that, the lad doesn't drink, so he doesn't spend his time after training in a bar like old skool players. He is just filling his time in a different way.}



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21 Apr 2018 05:31:06
No Pogba? What’s wrong with you all? All those great haircuts, his own emoji, silly dancing, he was head and shoulders above everyone else. Perhaps he could have won the award for most underwhelming player of the year, or player who gives the ball away in dangerous positions most often.


{Ed001's Note - funnily enough Ed033, who doesn't watch football, picked him in his team of the year. The only one who did. Which probably says something, I am just not sure what.}



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19 Apr 2018 22:14:51
Park, so if Neuer becomes available do we sign him?




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19 Apr 2018 19:15:37
I have no idea why we signed Sanchez, but I can guess.

1. He was effectively free
2. He is a top class player
3. City wanted him.

However, did we need him or is holding back the development of others; did we have other positions in more need of strengthening?

A strange one to me.