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24 Mar 2018 10:31:23
There are some that said Jesse wasn’t good enough and I guess there are still some that think he is at best a squad player but you have to give the lad credit. He keeps popping up scoring important goals and he plays with a smile on his face and seems to enjoy every moment. I’m so pleased for him and I hope he can take that final step and be consistent.


1.) 24 Mar 2018 16:25:04
He has always been highly thought off within the club. It was always accepted that he would take longer to find his feet due to his size. I read an interview with him where he said that Sir Alex always said he would become a real player when he's 25 like Tigana. I wonder how much of him really stepping up this season is down to him feeling that this year was going to be his year.

I did worry when we signed Sanchez as it was going to push either Lingard or Martial out of the side when arguably they we our best two forwards at that time. Maybe its time for Sanchez to be dropped for a game or two and make him fight for his place against players who are in form.

2.) 24 Mar 2018 16:40:40
Shaps, I don’t know why we bought Sanchez other than to stop City buying him. We had needs inother areas way before a left sided attacker was needed and even if he starts firing it just relegates Martial or Rashford. This smacks of Woodward and his marque signing obsession. I don’t want to upset you but if Bale is available you can bet your mortgage Ed will be there waving his chequebook.

3.) 24 Mar 2018 16:46:51
The thing with Jesse is you know he will work on the pitch and not hide. He has proven this year that he has more in the locker than people thought imo but he had the beginnings of a good season couple of years back when he got ani injury early on at Swansea I think. Change of personel and management has not deterred him and I think he has saved us a good few bob on bringing in a n other player.

4.) 24 Mar 2018 16:58:44
I was one of those thinking he wasn't going to be up to it and would be sold, at times I feel foolish, but then he can be anonymous far too often for me (like most of our attacking players) .

I still think in order for us to be competing at the very top we need better than Lingard. But if he improves again as much as he has over the past 18 months then he will deserve a regular berth in a top Utd team.

I love his energy and clever runs, maybe there is even more to come from him once we get back to playing proper attacking football and those runs will be picked out by players that currently refuse the pass and opt for 'safety' instead. I certainly would like him to impact games more consistently as well, 10 seconds of brilliance now and again is good, but we need more than that over a 90 minute match from an attacking midfielder.

5.) 24 Mar 2018 17:39:38
I agree Beastand that was my point about consistency. When he is good he is very good but often you can forget he is on the pitch, which is very frustrating when he gets himself in such good positions and scores such important goals. He needs to turn up for more games than he does, which I think he will if he continues to develop as he has done in the last year. And he is home grown which means a lot to me,

6.) 24 Mar 2018 17:52:11
Does he go missing or as mentioned above is it a case of him making good runs and his team mates not playing the creative pass to find him?

The best players score in the big games, which he does more consistently than those around him. H deserves his place in the team, he works hard, he offers movement and he can finish. I think he will thrive if we add more quality to the midfield. He is a bit of a social media whore, but as long as he performs on the pitch it’s not a problem. I wish pogba put half the effort in he does.

7.) 24 Mar 2018 18:33:58
Agree with all of the posts regarding jesse in some degree, better than dele alli in my opinion who plays a similar role especially this season.

8.) 25 Mar 2018 05:21:49
I must be the only one who doesn't yet rate him. He for me is going through his Smalling patch where player looks good for a season or 2 but with lingard it has only been 2 months rather than the whole season.

He was mostly anonymous until December and has been anonymous for most part since February. That is 2 good months in 3-4 years. Yes he scores some important goals from time to time but he going to have to perform much better to be more than a squad player.

9.) 25 Mar 2018 16:58:04
No MU player apart from De Gea has been sensational for long, playing good for some time and then playing poorly.

10.) 26 Mar 2018 14:14:47
CSM, that's not really fair, even if he's only started looking like a real top player this season, he's actually been doing well for the last couple of years. He was hardly "anonymous" before December anyway. 8 goals and assists in 17 games, 11 of which he played 30 minutes or less in, may not be setting the league on fire, but it's certainly not "anonymous".

Re: the consistency, I'm inclined to agree with Huggy. He's suffering from the way the team is playing, and would have a much more consistent impact if the runs he makes were picked out a bit more often by players behind him. Now, I'm not saying he's doing everything right, maybe he'd still be a bit inconsistent with players behind him looking for those runs and playing more positive football, but the point is that we don't really know, and I don't think it's fair to judge him too harshly when we don't really know how much of the inconsistency is down to him, and how much is down to the way the teamas a whole is playing.

I would really love to see Herrera used in a more advanced role, ahead of Matic rather than alongside him, where he can look to play the passes that someone like Lingard can feed on. It's too easy to see his great defensive performances last season and forget that he's a great passer of the ball, with an eye for getting team mates in behind the defence.

11.) 26 Mar 2018 14:23:10
That FA cup winning goal seemed to really kick him on and he’s improved a lot since then.


How you can say he’s been anonymous is beyond me, he’s probably scored more important goals than any other player in the last 2 years.

12.) 26 Mar 2018 14:53:27
Gds important goals don't mean consistency. Yes he scored against Chelsea and in fa cup final but can you remember a run of games until December where you could say he was consistently good. A first team player needs to be consistently good and unlike rashford or martial lingard isn't exactly in the youngster category.

Thorne he has been good this season but last season he had 5 goals and 3 assists in 42 games in lvg's last season he had 7 goals and 4 assists in 41 games. Those are not good figures and he needs get similar to his current nos before we can be sure that he has improved rather than going through a purple patch.

Also where exactly will he play next season jose wants savic added to the team and jorginho as replacement for carrick, so we most likely will be switching to a mf 3.

13.) 30 Mar 2018 18:44:50
Good player, nice lad, silly dancer.



17 Feb 2018 08:31:11
Interesting rumour this morning, Real ready to move for Pogba. Could be paper trash talk of course but if they did and the money was big, would you sell? Clearly the boy has talent but he has yet to dominate a game or deliver on his potential. Is that down to him, the Manager, or a combination of both.

If the money was silly should we cash in? The problem with that is that he may go on and become the dominating player we believe is in there somewhere, and replacing him will cost a fortune too. For me, I’d seriously consider it though.


{Ed002's Note - There is zero interest in Paul Pogba from Real Madrid. They have very, very different ideas who they want.}

1.) 17 Feb 2018 11:41:22
There is no way we should be selling Pogba it would be crazy to do so.

Its likr selling the next messi and then trying to go buy a next ronaldo because we are noy patient enough.

2.) 17 Feb 2018 11:59:12
"Cash in" wtf? So some now want to sell Pogba when we have few midfielders for a pretty poor return? You bored with FIFA?

3.) 17 Feb 2018 11:20:17
Yay. Thanks ed for that.



12 Jan 2018 21:19:21
All this talk of Sanchez has masked the rumour that Vardy is also being considered. Not sure if they would sell or at what price but I think he would slot in much easier, albeit he is a like for like with Lukaku. Sanchez’s attitude worries me, the stories from Arsenal about his isolationist approach do not bode well for team spirit. Hey ho, what do I know?


1.) 12 Jan 2018 21:28:45
I hope not. Hateful diving git, Gerrard, suarez, terry, barton, keown, cattermole, Vardy. all the same to me would of hated to see any of them in a red shirt.

2.) 12 Jan 2018 23:05:33
That's one heck of a team those lot would make. Lacks some wide players tho.

3.) 13 Jan 2018 05:53:05
bfbw, there too much hate in your heart, i'd have had Keown and Suarez any day of the week. Go hug a tree man.

4.) 13 Jan 2018 08:10:14
AJH Vardy is a player Maze likes and admired over the years for his tenacity as well as his rags to riches story but to say he is a better option than Sanchez is silly, very silly.

Wake up AJH you are dreaming of poorly fabricated scenarios.



08 Dec 2017 20:28:41
So, first of all, I share my birthday with Jonny Evans so put that your pipe and smoke it. Secondly, I may have had a little wine tonight so forgive me if I am less coherent than Ronnie during a transfer window.

Sunday is a big game and I hope that Jose wakes up and has an epiphany but I fear it will not happen. I believe it is better to die fighting than running away and in football that is also true. Inspire the troops, give them hope and belief, rouse their spirits, fill their hearts with pride and desire. Let’s not turn up to stifle and try and nick a goal on the break. I don’t care if they are the best team, like Pierre the famous French fighter pilot, let’s go down in flames (google it) .

We are United, a team steeped in history and tradition, we live or die by our standard, there are times to stand up and be counted, Sunday is one of those times. We win, or we lose in a blaze of glory, to be a United fan there are no in betweens.

Time for more wine.


1.) 09 Dec 2017 01:43:34
Jesse's performance at Arsenal will have given him food for thought. Maybe we can press high with a few players and cause some chaos amongst their back line. Worry is that Matic and Ander would have to play out of their skins.

The motivational piece is way more important than formation. Win your battles all over the pitch and you'll get a win.

2.) 09 Dec 2017 10:50:17
We’ll park the bus and try to catch them on the counter and via set pieces.



27 Aug 2017 19:14:26
Just caught up with MOTD, I thought all our players played well. Amongst other things that stood out though:

1. Joe Hart, wow, surely he isn't England's goalie any more
2. Anyone else warming to Rafa? No? Just me?
3. City, still not convincing and I think strong teams will bully them.
4. Shearer has become a half cent pundit since he stopped sitting on the fence.
5. Phil Neville, got to love him, is he the most positive person in the world ever?
6. Swansea possibly not as bad as we have thought.
7. Bilic and De Boer have to be worried although after today's debacle, perhaps Wenger will be first to go.


1.) 27 Aug 2017 20:35:38
Pretty much agree with everything there mate.
I was saying to my lad yesterday that if this palace squad go down it's the best squad ever to be relegated.

2.) 27 Aug 2017 00:43:07
Phil Neville really annoys me. He's so biased it's unbelievable. Agree with the rest. De Boer is no surprise, he was abysmal at inter. Played some disgraceful football there.




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20 Jul 2019 10:04:47
SAF used to say there is no value in the market and seeing some of the prices being waited for a variety of players never has that been more true. Madrid and Juve May want Pogba but they both have players they can’t shift so it looks like they can’t afford him. The fee for Maguire is ridiculous especially when you see De Ligt went for a lot less and we know others are available for lower fees. We are holding out for a higher price for Lukaku, a player who doesn’t figure in Ole’s plans.

There is value to be had if you shop carefully but it is getting harder and harder. Surely the way forward is youth development. I know everyone does it but how well do they do it, as clearly some do it far better than others. I’m not just talking playing skills but psychology, education, lifestyle. Instead of buying a player for £x00 million we should be investing massively in facilities and youth development with a view to growing our own. Part of this (nods head to Red Man) is having a solid identity and culture. This is how we behave, this is how we do things round here, if you want to join then you need to fit with in. Under SAF and the British core I think we had that but sadly it has been ripped apart. We can buy as many big names as we want but it’s all a bit random and disjointed.

The current (apparent) approach focusing on young energetic players is welcome and hopefully lessons have been learned. Sadly, I doubt it.


1.) 20 Jul 2019 11:01:03

SAF said there was no value in the market when players like Aguero, Hazard, Silva were available. The reason was more likely that the financial support was not there from above. When they sold Ronaldo in 2009 it propped up the financial accounts, enabling a profit rather than a loss.

Thanks for the nod. For years I have banged on about defining a strategy based on what the club want to be. When they brought LvG in, I recall he had been the one at Barcelona who actually wrote down and defined what Cruyff had envisaged. Maybe, I thought, Woodward would use that strategic knowledge to define the future, instead LvG’s sacking demonstrated there was no greater thought process behind the appointment, meaning it was very questionable judgement appointing him. Any business needs to have a direction, any part of the business needs to know that and work together towards the aim, the strategic aim. We just lost that direction when SAF retired, it seems it was all driven by him and not those above him.

A British core, a youth system is part of our culture but until the strategic aim is as one from the Glazers down we will remain disorganised and likely unsuccessful.

2.) 20 Jul 2019 11:08:17
I wrote in at the end of last season that we should rip this squad up and start again with youth. That was me being incredibly angry with how we finished the season, coupled with the fact that some of our players are happy to collect their high wages, have the Man Utd crest next to their instagram picture, but not actually deserve to play for our club one bit.

I am happy with the direction that Ole seems to going. We need to veer away from signing players that are surplus to requirements at other top clubs. We players that are hungry and want to succeed and make the step up.

Even with the class of 92 emerging, Fergie still had the squad packed full of British transfer record signings, old pros, continental flair.

If you have aspirations of winning trophies then the academy isn't enough alone. For teams lower down the division it is a no brainer. 9 games and Longstaff could make Newcastle a lot of money. Ajax have made more money off De Jong and De Ligt then the last 10 season in the Eredivise.

We have some awesome prospects coming through the pipeline. If Ole can get 2 or 3 into our squad then he has pulled up trees. But the squad needs to get back to getting players that want to make the step up. Not players that Madrid no longer fancy.

Make no bones about it. The squad we have have underperformed individually and as a team for years. If Ole can get an extra 20% out of our better player, and add a few more to the team, realistically we should be aiming for top 3.

The kids are the future, but you also need some wise heads in the squad to guide them.

3.) 20 Jul 2019 11:10:51
But is De Ligt acually worth the reported £77m fee? Nowhere near it, Maguire won't be much more than either, though both are very overrated and overpriced.

4.) 20 Jul 2019 11:13:02
Well said ajh, I also think we need to get away from what a player cost there are far to many variables.

Maguire and de ligt are in very different circumstances, Leicester have epl money behind them probably don't want to sell there best player and have if tied to a long term contract . Why would they sell him for a fair price?
United may feel that for various reasons paying x amount is justified.
Every transfer is a gamble there are no sure things, but there is always bigger picture .
United may feel that to improve the team they need to address certain areas with players that have the correct attributes and complement the other players. To buy a, b, c and d that may cost 250mil, but if that combination may well be worth more than the sum of its parts . Which is how you build a team .
A player may be worth 20 mil to one team but 40 to another.

5.) 20 Jul 2019 11:43:49
Got to say is ole not moving us towards what is considered our core values? And people want him sacked.

6.) 20 Jul 2019 12:04:16
Great thread boys enjoyed reading all that 👍.

7.) 20 Jul 2019 12:15:05
I would just like to add,

Daniel James and Wan-Bissaka are both very good young talents.

Youngsters thrive in teams that are on the up, not teams that need to be rebuilt.

Perfect example, Trent Alexander Arnold. Young players need a stable squad environment to improve.

Take the Fergie Era when Beckham, Scholes etc hit the ground running.

To ask youngsters to improve your current status is a recipe for disaster. Wan-Bissaka has a massive transfer fee hanging over him. If he does not deliver it is bedtime.

8.) 20 Jul 2019 12:24:50
Very good post jred.
There are only 2 valuations that matter. The price the selling club want and the price the buyers are prepared to pay.
If the decision is player x can fix problems in the team and compliment others and is seen as a good fit by those that make the decisions then he is worth more than what can be described as his "market value"
If player x and the team succeed his percieved market value is likely to increase.
Lots of players move for big money and kots for little money. There are no guarantees or very few anyway.
Barca. Dembele couts and malcom semedo nearly 350m none have been a huge success and are all for sale.
Neymar draxler di maria 300m all for sale at psg
We have a list of our own.
Build a strong core and base and add to it with flair if required or strength or muscle piece by piece.
Get the core right get the principles right and you have a much better chance.
I like what's happening with a cb and at least 1 more cm 2 preferably we should be in a really good spot.
The pogba situation needs to be classified sooner rather than later as that's the only potential de-railer i see to upset pre season.

9.) 20 Jul 2019 18:33:56

Once again you’re posting negative nonsense on our page about things that you clearly want to happen not what actually will happen. Give it a rest mate.



19 Jul 2019 09:04:17
People get very excited by all the rumours but earlier this week Maguire was nailed on and arriving for a medical. If you ever needed an example of trash press then there it is, and it won’t be the only one.

The rumours are speculation, sometimes based on a whisper but often not, and I think sometimes just made up to sell papers or get clicks. Sly in particular spread rumours that they then take bets on which is pretty immoral.

What happens will happen, we need to stop knee jerking every time a new rumour arrives. If we bought every player the press has linked us with we’d have a squad of about 70.


1.) 19 Jul 2019 11:21:16
At the end of the day we will sign who we sign.

2.) 19 Jul 2019 11:23:06

Remember when it used to be sex sells, now its football sells.

Which would prefer as a CB, Maguire, Dias or Milenkovic?

My preference would be Dias as he is quick agile, can pass and tackle and is still young. He reminds me of Rio. For that reason I think he would compliment Lindelof at CB.

3.) 19 Jul 2019 11:56:04
AJH, you’re bang on with this post. I’m as guilty as any for seeing any for reading rumours online and questioning the Ed’s, I did it yesterday with Zaniolo.
There’s a decent article on Sports Witness about the Costa to Wolves rumour. Completely made up quotes from which fans betting and football index prices get screwed.

4.) 19 Jul 2019 12:15:16
Hatter, I'd opt for Milenkovic. He is even younger, and has all those attributes you mentioned for Dias though Dias may even be quicker, Milenkovic makes up for it in positional play and is very strong in the air.

5.) 19 Jul 2019 12:26:42
I genuinely have no idea! It seems to me that whoever we sign and for what prices is always a risk. They either click and fit in or they dont.



02 Jul 2019 17:03:12
I remember when we bought Stebe Bruce, I thought he was a do key at the time but what a player he turned out to be. Pep clearly sees something in h too so let's see how it pans out

too a do let at the timeyer he turned out to.


{Ed001's Note - did you type this from the pub?}

1.) 02 Jul 2019 17:24:01
I speak fluent drunk. He's saying we shouldn't buy Maguire, we should spend the 70 million on cloning Steve Bruce.

{Ed001's Note - sounds like a good idea.}

2.) 02 Jul 2019 18:43:53
Hic, fot fungers.

3.) 02 Jul 2019 19:28:16
Beer garden on a Tuesday?
Pimms at Wimbledon?

4.) 02 Jul 2019 20:39:35
I had to swiftly neck 5 bottles of Mango and Raspberry Rekorderlig, just to decipher the first sentence.

5.) 02 Jul 2019 20:57:39
It’s a bit worrying that Utd were deciding last week if they should get a CB or not, after what we have seen last season I would have thought it’s a no brainer!
Then today we apparently bid £70 million for Maquire!
Who is making these decisions, it’s obvious we need the best CB we can buy and he isn’t that, we also need a right winger or attacker, if we have to pay £100 million to get koulibally get him, if Dias is £60 get him Maguire is the modern day Phil Jones.

6.) 02 Jul 2019 23:38:26

You’ve made the age old mistake of believing something you have read, Ed002 has said which defenders we are looking at, the club didn’t ‘decide last week’ that they might want a centre half, and the offer for Maguire that was reported today was more Sky guff so they could say 2 hours later the offer was rejected. They already knew it had been rejected when they printed the original story and they create their own narrative.

7.) 03 Jul 2019 07:53:59
AJH - Are you Ozzy Osbourne? Blirriant mtae.

8.) 03 Jul 2019 09:03:28
GDS I hope it is guff for gods sake if maquire is worth £70 million, i must be worth 30 and I can’t play.
I hope it’s his agent.



08 Jun 2019 19:47:16

Just seen your responses to some posts down the page, I salute you sir, I couldn’t have put it better myself. Top man.


1.) 08 Jun 2019 20:04:19
Totally agree.

2.) 08 Jun 2019 22:03:24
So why didn't you post in under the thread then,

3.) 08 Jun 2019 23:20:54
Well said tony.



06 Jun 2019 20:25:24
Stevie, you were doubting that a Pogba was having a bad influence on Rashford. 2 words, silly haircut.


1.) 06 Jun 2019 21:31:10
Also did a slightly unconventional run up, its like pogbas played a mind control trick on him.

2.) 06 Jun 2019 22:11:49
He was also pretty anonymous apart from scoring a penalty. Spooky.

3.) 07 Jun 2019 06:19:47
That sort of run up had been common for years, it was nothing like Pogba’s.

4.) 07 Jun 2019 09:23:05
Tony, to me, everyone under 30 has a silly haircut.

5.) 07 Jun 2019 10:26:13
AJH, what about winning the penalty? I any England att player had a bad game it was Sterling.




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21 Jul 2019 09:46:12
He’s not worth less he just doesn’t fit how Ole wants to play.




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20 Jul 2019 10:05:48
If it’s in the press then it’s happening, I’d put huge amounts of money on it if I were you.




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30 Jun 2019 09:59:16
This is clearly nonsense. It’s all gone to his head and he is holding the club to ransom for £300K a week isn’t he?




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09 Jun 2019 18:22:39
I prefer my beavers hot, not chilled.




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09 Jun 2019 05:48:55
Sky make things up all the time, they are just trying to generate clicks and interest. Their deadline day shows have become embarrassing, they build them up into being ‘the most dramatic day ever’ and they are always a compete flop. They also have their own betting site which is dodgy. Creae a rumour and then watch the money go on it.





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24 Jul 2019 06:36:35
It’s a bit odd that they let Benítez go and then break their transfer record by some margins. There’s a rumour that Benitez thought he was over priced but they bought him anyway.




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24 Jul 2019 06:35:29
It’s appalling that Leicester are still playing him. We’ve made a bid for him ergo he should never play for them again. Are you serious?




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23 Jul 2019 21:07:58
Every day is a treasure trove right now.




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23 Jul 2019 19:00:52
Listen to you all. Mark comes on here and makes a perfectly valid point and you all gang up on him. Don’t take it personally Mark, they should know better. To try and make up for it, please accept the Deluded Poster of the Day Award.




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22 Jul 2019 18:36:38
Congratulations, you win Drama Queen of the Day.