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26 Sep 2018 01:45:16
So there's no need to worry everybody peeps because our beloved 'keeper of the abacus' has announced its been an absolutely spiffing year for revenue!, not so much on the trophy front, but hey, you can't have it all-right?

mr. deadwood has announced he and others are working tirelessly to bring world class signings to old trafford and he's going to back jose with big signings going forward, so pack up your troubles boys, good times are acoming! - one synical reprobate is insinuating that since he - mr. deadwood - tied his colours to the goodship jose, he's a bit jittery about being turfed out on his bottom if jose gets tanked by the owners? i tell you what, if this season was being filmed for amazon prime, the numbers of views would trounce pups' citeh big time!

Classof82

1.) 26 Sep 2018 07:03:02
It’s the only god news story there is, let’s shout about it. Woodward should be removed from footballing matters with immediate effect and move back into a commercial role.


 

 

05 Jun 2018 13:55:05
Er-am i missing the obvious here, surely next season will be considered a success if its a top 3 finish? if 5 or 6 players do come in won't it take at least 10-15 games for them to bed in and for jose's philosophy to be imprinted on the team (bearing in mind i'm hoping for a more attacking approach? ), nothing would make everyone happier if the team hit the ground running, but surely what with the world cup and new signings joining after a delayed holiday, i'm going to guess next season will be a 'transition season' with maybe a cup or dare to believe a good campaign in the champions league? hopefully jose and his new inner circle will prove me wrong big time.

Classof82

1.) 05 Jun 2018 14:33:32
The players that are at the club all ready will of all had at least 12 month to get the philosophy so we should in theory improve .


2.) 05 Jun 2018 15:35:25
Yeah you are missing the fact we aren't Arsenal mate.

3rd year in is the 'prove it' season, not another transition season. Every top club has to contend with the World Cup. Most top clubs buy several players in the transfer window.

Jose's philosophy can be learnt in 94 minutes, just have them watch the film "127 hours", survive the onslaught, dismember your heritage, and grind it out until the bitter end!

Since when has the financial targets of the club been the targets of the fans? I don;t care where we finish personally, I'd just like to think the past 2 years of dross football have been building to something pleasing on the eye and bringing in entertainment value from the massive investments we have made.


3.) 05 Jun 2018 15:53:10
No excuses this coming season. We have to perform and we have to challenge for the title and at least quarters for the champions league. If we are not performing to where we should be with the money spent, then it is time to start looking at a different manager.


4.) 05 Jun 2018 18:47:17
There should be no more excuses next season the manager will have had the length of his original contract, unlimited funds and the complete backing of the board.

Next season is time to stand up and be counted and I think we will unlike most on here I could care less if we make big money superstar signings I kind of like the look of the signings we've made today for example they seem the kind of signings made for the sake of the team not just to sell shirts .

Personally I think we will at least win the title next season and have a right crack at the UCL, but if we don't I think the blame can only land at one person's feet.


5.) 05 Jun 2018 19:13:15
Deano
Smallings?


6.) 05 Jun 2018 20:41:13
Sorry jred you've lost me mate?


 

 

29 May 2018 21:11:57
There seems to be a bit of a rumour about grealish being looked at, good player and worth a punt i reckon.

Classof82

{Ed025's Note - thats all united need CO82....another young guy with an attitude problem mate..


1.) 29 May 2018 23:02:01
Ed025-where is the love! by all accounts that injury he had which kept him out for months has apparently woke him up.

{Ed025's Note - leopards and spots and all that CO62, he thought he was the bees knees at villa on 8k a week imagine what he will be like at united on 100k a week?, after depay and martial you would thing they would have learn,t something mate..


2.) 30 May 2018 07:18:10
Looked a handful and more hungry grealish look at depay now tho back to the type of form that made united go out and buy him i'd like to see young english or British players given more of a chance at top teams!


3.) 30 May 2018 08:32:55
Not for me. Goes down far too easily and then rolls around the floor then all of a sudden is absolutely fine. Likes to look good with his hair. Gomez and Chong are already at Utd and are younger and better.


4.) 30 May 2018 09:58:09
I can't believe this story has any legs at all. Grealish is a decent player for Championship, Lower level prem. Snodgrass style.

He looks decent because almost everything is played through him - does anyone think for one second he will touch the ball half as much at a top club? He is also very wasteful, for every decent thing he does, he seems to give it away or makes the wrong decision 5 times.

I'd be frankly amazed if we attempt to sign him, and this comes from somebody who has almost zero faith in our transfer policy!

That's without considering his ego/ attitude problems - although he may fit in nicely on that front!


5.) 30 May 2018 10:19:12
It’s most likely just media rubbish beast. It seems the media have no real clue who we are in for, as the Dallot interest seems to show. They seem to be going by the mantra that if you throw enough crap at the wall then perhaps some will stick. The club knows it’s targets and they have a plan in place. Trust the process.


6.) 30 May 2018 14:09:08
50% of Villa fans think he's decent the other half seem to think he is a big headed show pony.

If someone could harness all the good parts of that kid Traore at Mboro he would be worth a punt. he is like Zaha on acid at the moment but there is a very good player in there somewhere.


7.) 30 May 2018 20:24:25
Villa need 45m to avoid penalties next season on overspend in efl rules what better way to sell grralish for as much as possible by putting out reports that united want him for 30m. Villa need to raise cash.


8.) 30 May 2018 20:38:23
Not a nice guy class82. he's not that talented either.


9.) 03 Jun 2018 02:46:08
We nolonger need these young boys, let's go look for players like Griezman and Bale.

{Ed0333's Note - Am is the only one that thinks Griezmann and Bale aren’t the world class players that everyone thinks they are.


 

 

25 May 2018 20:57:24
So the u23 captain Riley has signed for bradford its reported, i wonder if the great and the good at old trafford have included a sell-on clause at the very least, otherwise shades of pogba spring to mind.

Classof82

1.) 25 May 2018 21:11:47
Shades of Pogba? He signed for Bradford.


2.) 25 May 2018 22:41:56
Mancman that reply made me laugh.


3.) 26 May 2018 00:14:36
You got to be kidding classof82? Riley is decent but is not somebody we will regret selling.


4.) 25 May 2018 23:43:38
. of Turin.


5.) 26 May 2018 01:05:27
😂 sell on clause, brilliant.


6.) 26 May 2018 18:05:17
He's no great shakes.


 

 

03 May 2018 21:20:13
Hey Ed-have you heard anything about dave the save buying a house in madrid, its been reported by a few supposed 'insiders' at los blancos apparently, bearing in mind the idea is to strengthen, surely jose wouldn't entertain this deal would he?

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{Ed001's Note - not sure how this is related to anything. He has more than one house already in Spain, as do a lot of the Spanish national team, I assume it is a financial advisor that was involved with the squad that convinced them that property is a good investment. Sergio Ramos has a house in the village near to where my parents live, but I doubt he is returning to Sevilla any time soon.

Madrid would love to add him, he would like to go home, but they have a lot of players they need to replace, so I doubt they will go for him this summer.}


1.) 04 May 2018 19:03:21
Edoo1-cheers for that, hope your right, i also hope jose thinks about giving sam johnstone a go between the sticks, i think he's matured a lot this season at aston villa, and he seems to have grown into the position of being number 1 there.

{Ed001's Note - I think he will leave to be honest, probably for Villa, on a permanent deal.}


2.) 05 May 2018 06:42:17
Ed001-i think your right, but i wouldn't be surprised if another prem. club sneaked in and nabbed him, even if he cost 5-8 million he'd be a bargain., i reckon henderson might be sold as well, bit of a shame, but that's showbiz i suppose.

{Ed001's Note - maybe, but he seems quite settled at Villa. I would say it depends on them clinching promotion this season.}


 

 

 

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24 Sep 2018 12:25:31
Wow, nice to see pogba letting everyone know 'attack' should have been the primary thought on joses' mind when playing at home! -seems he really does want to be jumping on a plane in january for pastures new! -and yes, you can say he's just answering a question honestly and expressing his feelings, but surely as club captain (if it meant anything to him) he'd have toed the club line with diplomacy?, i bet his agents' phone is blowing up right now, mission disloyalty continues-yet another dressing room battle for jose, does he reprimand him or put his hand round his shoulder, either way its catch 22.

Classof82

1.) 24 Sep 2018 13:41:59
Classof82,

He isn't club captain. Also, everything he says is blown up so much it is ridiculous, did he say anything the rest of us aren't thinking? He thinks we should attack and take the game to teams at OT, hardly controversial.


2.) 24 Sep 2018 15:24:38
GDS2-Fair point, but surely even in his deluded world he must realise his comments aren't exactly helping matters, whether you like jose or not, you have to admit he has indulged pogba far more than most managers would, bearing in mind there seems to be the sense of the team starting to tick means any comments should be of a positive nature for the good of the team, but maybe i'm wrong so hands up, my bad.


3.) 24 Sep 2018 18:03:31
The comments bug me tbh honest everything seemed to be settling down the with one quote here we go again.


4.) 24 Sep 2018 20:16:59
After Pogba's pathetic lack of commitment on Saturday he would be wiser to keep his mouth shut. We as fans can SEE him not bothering to put a shift in.

One sublime but of skill is not enough.


5.) 24 Sep 2018 21:20:22
I think when pressed on why United did not adopt a more positive, his comments where worse .

"I can't tell you because I'm a player, " said Pogba. "It's not me.

"I am not the manager, I cannot, like, say that, but obviously we should show more options of playing.

"But I cannot say that, because I'm a player. That's my way of thinking - we should move better. We should move more, yeah. "


Then again if the manager is happy to critise a player to the media is it a shock if a player mentions the manager to the media?


6.) 24 Sep 2018 21:36:08
Engineering himself a January move by any chance?


7.) 24 Sep 2018 21:50:52
The unfortunate thing is that pogba is a very good player. Just not good enough often enough for us.
The more unfortunate thing is that he seems a mutinous little person as well.
He really needs to shut his mouth until he starts doing the very least that he is paid to do. I. e. give 100% every minute of every game for the fans that pay their hard earned money to watch him kick around a pigskin.


8.) 25 Sep 2018 07:00:07
Sounds to me like Pogba wants things done his way, how he sees them or it is part of his agitating to get out. There is a huge difference between the manager commenting and a player. Pogba is a player and needs to do what he is told by the manager, end of. Frankly, he needs to keep his mouth shut and start performing to the standard he is paid for. Pogba is a player who was softly dispossessed leading to the Wolves goal so is in no position to mouth off about anything, actually he should be apologising.

He needs to be fined and put back in his place but selected to play until he earns the respect and shows that he is the player he, in his head, thinks he is. He seems to have been selective when he puts the effort in and that needs to change. You play football with your head and feet not your mouth.


9.) 25 Sep 2018 07:18:32
In fairness, you do play with your mouth. Vocal communication is an essential skill for a top class player.


10.) 25 Sep 2018 12:13:05
There is a time and place to mouth off and that is certainly not infront of the media.


11.) 25 Sep 2018 18:38:37
An advice the manager would do well to remember Singh.


12.) 25 Sep 2018 21:11:54
Good point Jred. The players shouldn't criticise or even hint at it against the manager, but he continually has a go at the players publicly so how can he complain. Stems from the manager IMO.


13.) 25 Sep 2018 22:30:44
Willgreen

If you think it is ok for team members to talk out against a manager it just shows a lack of understanding at how the dynamics of management works.

{Ed025's Note - it has to work both ways though red man, jose trashing his players in public is also wrong, "something is rotten in the state of denmark" mate..as the bard would say..


14.) 25 Sep 2018 22:47:34
Ed0025
There is a big problem at the club but it has been there for years, the same stench pervaded Old Trafford in the early seventies. Change is needed from top down, it needs shaking up and the manager is trying to do that. Mourinho hasn’t been perfect but there is no way you put a player above a manager. If the club chose a player over a manager it undermines the managers position, they undermined the manager in summer and if they do it again over Pogba the manager will or should quite rightly walk away. Am off to bed as up for work early but the principle has to stand or a lot more will break down.

{Ed025's Note - i get that red man but the manager has to set a president mate, as you say the club is rotten to the core and it needs more than just a new manager..


15.) 25 Sep 2018 23:20:51
Manager sets the example.


16.) 26 Sep 2018 06:29:50
Jred
It has to come from the owners through Woodward downwards and it doesn’t
In Mourinho’s position as Manager he is absolutely right on Pogba. The problem is far bigger than the manager it is from owners down.


 

 

21 Aug 2018 20:40:44
As one or two have alluded to, shouldn't old ed deadwood be being looked at?

Classof82

1.) 21 Aug 2018 22:00:55
Do you find him handsome as well?


2.) 21 Aug 2018 22:20:17
But not touched, no touching.


3.) 22 Aug 2018 01:58:30
Lol-i think need to scarper down to specsavers quick.


 

 

20 Aug 2018 03:33:46
There are those in journo land who have it on 'jibba-jabba'authority that the dressing room is split, that the reason luke shaw is staying is not because he wants to 'fight for his place', but because he's been advised that jose won't be in charge by the end of the season, seems the papers are waiting for the fall-out from the amazon documentary to run its course to see what happens, to me the constant disparaging stories about jose smacks of some journos' wanting payback, but somehow i think the lack of support from the directors upwards is a silence that's defining, nows the time to voice support or be prepared for more tosh being reported.

Classof82

1.) 20 Aug 2018 11:03:22
Our great club has become a joke. Instead of discussing how we will conquer Europe by beating the great European teams. We are here discussing rifts, bust ups, boredom and people wanting to leave. Our club is becoming like a class in a secondary school. Why would a top world class talent want to join us when we like this. We need a new manager 100%.


2.) 20 Aug 2018 11:50:11
MissingFergie. As i and some of the others have alluded to in the past 2-3 years, the club needs a shake up from the top down to the playing staff and manager.
There is no quick fix or a silver bullet I'm afraid. The owners have to get their priorities right. They have to invest time in the way the club is run on the pitch, not just off the pitch. Woodward has been a complete joke in the transfer market and we clearly need a more professional approach. When David Gill was in charge, most transfers happened seamlessly.
The manager doesn't want to be here and it shows in the way he behaves and talks. Yet, we rushed into giving him a one year contract extension. Why?
It seems the whole place is rudderless and no one is in charge. A new manager might paper over the cracks, but will not solve the problems completely.
The club structure has to change to focus on the footballing side as much as they do the commercial side. Director of Football will be a good start, but we need to sort out the manager's intentions first before we appoint a DOF.
Is Mourinho staying or is he getting the push? If he's unhappy here, and if the dressing room is split, then the board have to act and act quickly and get rid of him.
Appointment of next manager will then become crucial. We need someone who is happy to live in Manchester (and why not, as it is a great city) . Someone who understands and respects our heritage and plays in the right way. Someone, who is assertive but not divisive. And most importantly, someone who can spread the word and attract the right players to our club and can work well with the DOF.
Until this happens, we will be playing second fiddle to City and Liverpool unfortunately.


3.) 20 Aug 2018 15:00:42
I agree completely with the first part of your post, but I don't think things would be solved by a new manager. The Glazers are interested in money, not glory. They have loaded a massive debt on the club and take millions out every year for themselves. Whilst Fergie and Gill were at the club, the effect of this was hidden, but now we have Woodward who is also a money man and is hopeless in the football world. Both LVG and Jose have complained about not being able to get hold of him to talk. Unlike the Abu Dhabi team over the last 10 years, there is no plan to improve - just to stay high enough for the money to keep coming in.
Sorry if this is depressing but I really feel this is the case.


4.) 20 Aug 2018 21:54:35
That’s the point of the DoF surely. They decide who the first team coach is ultimately and is a good stooge for actually making a decision.

Two years in and we still don’t know our best 11, formation or style Of play under Jose. I am a fan of his but he
Does not fit our club. Time to make a younger, longer term change and back then. G Neville, Giggs, Poch, Jardim whomever. As long as we entertain and go for it.


 

 

06 Aug 2018 23:17:19
If memory serves me right;didn't pogba's agent, mr. raiola say just before the world cup that united were 'lucky' to get mr. showbiz for 100 million and that it should have been at least near 150 million? now bearing in mind old lofty had a good world cup surely his value should now be north of 150 million, now if the club do decide to cash in, and woodward gets anything less than 150 million, then there's something wrong with his abacus, or take 100 million and 'x' amount of players to the value of at least 75 million, simples! -but something tells me woodward has the hard-nosed poker face of mr. bean.

Classof82

1.) 06 Aug 2018 23:41:10
Just out of interest, do you think he’s worth more now that when you signed him?
When he came he was good with bags of potential, some question marks maybe but time to improve them.
Is he not now just older and probably no better?
Plus I don’t think you will get 150 million for a player you want rid of?


2.) 06 Aug 2018 23:43:11
Cheers Ed for getting my spelling of 'raiola'amended, but there's still a part of me that thinks on balance, i got it bang on!

{Ed004's Note - Just don't want it descending into anarchy around here}


3.) 07 Aug 2018 08:53:04
Firmane - in simple numbers yes he is definitely worth more - this is thanks to the Neymar/ Dembele/ Coutinho transfers changing the market.


 

 

06 Aug 2018 11:25:35
I was talking to a more mature united fan about waiting for some late deals hopefully being done before the window closed, at which point he slamed his his pint onto the table, gave an angry grimace and said simply, when SAF and kenyon were there, they got business done as soon as the window opened after identifying targets throughout the season and maybe putting out the 'feelers'to agents before the window opened 'allegedly', now bearing in mind woodward isn't jetting around the world every 5 minutes, why couldn't he show some cunning and follow a successful formula, seems the only manager who has followed that formula is klippety klopp, i'm hoping woodward pulls a rabbit out of the hat, if not, then you really blame jose for wodwards' posturing.

Classof82

1.) 06 Aug 2018 11:43:59
Your more mature united fan mate has a poor memory.


2.) 06 Aug 2018 12:21:41
Slamming down pint glasses isn't particularly mature behaviour.


3.) 06 Aug 2018 11:47:51
Especially with the price of ale these days Danny!


 

 

 

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02 Sep 2018 17:46:11
Just a quick point, i'd like to know just how much more influence agents now have on players routines, a certain agent revealed he liked his client to be looking for a move with about 18 months left on his contract, (whether he was happy at a club or not! ), so as to get his cut of the transfer pie or to talk up improved terms and bonus' to get his cut, mix that with increased commercials potential and branding, its like the player hasn't enough time to play football!

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30 Aug 2018 01:44:37
I think its a case of when, not if unfortunately, SAF was right about his agent for sure, when he does go, he can take his roller and his chauffer and shove it.

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06 Jul 2018 10:19:58
Is that the one where he was racing lord lucan riding shergar? i lost a tenner on that, the useless feck that he was! -got it back though on elvis winning the grand national on 'a burger done for me belly big time'-strange name for a horse, but i'm not judgememtal the therapist told me!

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06 Jul 2018 07:17:02
Never ever did i think i'd ever live to hear the words 'daily sport' and the word 'honest' in any form of association, man alive you'll be telling me next they really did put a man on the moon, you cheeky scamp!

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{Ed001's Note - they did, he was driving a London bus, I saw the pictures in the Sport.}


 

 

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24 Jun 2018 06:07:24
Like keano said about boateng on itv "a players' not right in the head if he's got 650 pairs of shoes"--nuff said!

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{Ed001's Note - nothing wrong with liking shoes, if that is how Keane judges players it is no wonder he made a crap manager! Michael Jordan loved his shoes and clothes but he never had a problem getting his head right to perform. This is the kind of idiotic thinking that holds football back in the dark ages. It is ok if they want to go and drink 25 pints a night but buy a pair of shoes and you are crucified.}


 

 

 

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24 Sep 2018 15:24:38
GDS2-Fair point, but surely even in his deluded world he must realise his comments aren't exactly helping matters, whether you like jose or not, you have to admit he has indulged pogba far more than most managers would, bearing in mind there seems to be the sense of the team starting to tick means any comments should be of a positive nature for the good of the team, but maybe i'm wrong so hands up, my bad.

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17 Sep 2018 04:01:10
All hail the Wig, could be the best bit of business done this summer by jose in keeping him, now he has a specified role he looks different class, never going to be a flair player, doesn't need to be, the way he sits between the cbs and neutralized the danger was top banana, no nonsence like the shampoo and conditioner he uses! -just a side note, i like the way watford's doucoure went about the game, might be worth a chheky bid?

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07 Sep 2018 00:20:22
Shappy-if you asked any villa player if they'd take terry back, they'd bit your hand off for him, on a footballing level, i hate to say it, he'll make a brilliant manager, and that you can take to the bank.

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06 Sep 2018 03:06:12
As a person, he's marmite, BUT, when he went to villa 99% didn't want him, but fair play to him, he got the defence organized, improved the attitude of the players and got them playing for the jersey rather than trundling along, he also brought a calmness and reassurance as well both on and off the pitch, and not to be ignored was how he helped the younger players realise being a professional footballer is a privilege not an entitlement, so yeah, he could do a job at united but it would never happen i reckon because of his love for chavski and the history with united.

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03 Sep 2018 03:26:03
All power to the mighty WIG-could be the defensive hero no-one knew was already there-outstanding!

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