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14 Aug 2017 08:48:36
Good morning guys,

Firstly I'd like to echo all the positives comments.

I went to the game yesterday eagerly looking for signs that things would be different/ better this season.

I must confess I thought we toiled slightly in the opening 20 mins or so. We were dominating the game, had all the possession, we'd created a few openings but West Ham were looking reasonably comfortable. I thought we were a little narrow and was thinking I hope we can break them down!

But then it happened! Matic pounced on their indecisiveness in midfield. He pressed the ball quickly winning it back feeding Rashford in space. He ran like lightening, direct and purposeful, Matic galloping forward in support. Rashford released the ball perfectly to Lukaku who appeared in a flash and within a blink of an eye the ball was nestling in the net. That goal was a thing of beauty. Devastatingly brilliant. It oozed class, forged from power, pace and finished with clinical precision . It scared West Ham, it broke their will.

After the goal it was champagne football all the way. We didn't rest on our laurels like we've seen in recent seasons, we played with hunger, purpose and confidence. Rashford was prepared to run at them at every opportunity, gone were the sideways and backwards passes. Matic patrolled the midfield like a seasoned general quickly feeding his artillery at every opportunity real shock and awe stuff. A lethal combination of power and pace. When Rashford went off Martial continued in the same vein. Brilliant!

It's early days of course but a few more performances like that especially at OT and we might just start to see the fear factor return. When opposing players line up in our tunnel and look across and see De Gea, Bailly, Matic, Pogba, Lukaku they run out onto the pitch and see 75,000 expectant fans they may just shrink inside a little and think we can't win here today? We now have a very strong and imposing spine to our team.

I agree with Red Man that we're probably still that one special player away from being a really great team again. That mercurial figure capable of filling the No7 shirt!

I recently poured scorn on some posters pleas for an attacking left back but I must concede I was wrong. If the natural width is not going to come from our attackers then we really do need a full back who is able to get forward, support the attack and provide quality crosses into the box.

Anyway it's early days, we're still building and it might take another couple of transfer windows but the signs are encouraging and I think yesterday was one of the most compete performances I've seen at OT for a very long time!

I left feeling happy, entertained dare I say euphoric. Long may it continue!

Danny Lancs

1.) 14 Aug 2017 11:34:01
Lots of hard work too. Miki and Mata chasing back and winning the ball back got the crowd up, Rashford running the ball and Kolarov off the pitch in left back position after a 30 yard chase . and then the 90 seconds of 50/ 50 tackles won by Blind, Matic, Pogba and Jones in the first half when it got feisty for a few minutes . very very encouraging .

I wonder if a real leader might emerge now on the pitch, which would be fantastic in this new season/ era.


2.) 14 Aug 2017 14:37:36
Beautifully worded post danny a pleasure to read and I honestly could not agree more😊.


3.) 14 Aug 2017 16:16:41
Thanks Deano.


 

 

02 Aug 2017 18:53:27
Hi guys,

I'm not convinced by the argument a lot of posters seem to have about our full backs not being good enough. I'm of the opinion that full backs should be first and foremost defenders. If you can find ones that can attack equally as well as they can defend then fantastic but players of that calibre are rare. I agree better attacking full backs would improve us especially on the left but I'm not sure they'd make a huge difference to our team and I think our current full backs are more than adequate.

Surely our problem stems from our wide forwards/ wingers/ attackers or what ever you want to call them. Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Miki and Mata only managed 19 league goals and 13 assists between them. To put that into perspective Ibra scored 17 league goals on his own.

I fully expect Lukaku to at least equal Ibra's output but as we haven't signed anymore attacking players unless there is significant improvement from our other attackers than we'll find ourselves in a similar position to last season. They all must step up, improve and be more consistent.

All is not lost however and I believe that the signing of Matic is crucial. I think our best performances last season (& under LGV funnily enough) came when we played a 4-3-3 or 4-1-4-1 (essentially the same) with Carrick anchoring the midfield allowing Pogba and Herrera to be pushed further forward. This allowed Herrera to hunt and press the ball, enabling us to win it back further up the pitch and gave Pogba the freedom to be more creative without the added burden of his defensive responsibilities.

I don't think we've ever played that convincingly with a traditional No10, it doesn't suit our style or appetite for quick, direct football and wing play. I'm hoping that now we've signed Matic we'll see a return to this formation on a more consistent basis. By playing with a midfield anchor it will hopefully result in our wide players being higher up the pitch and providing us with some width. I'd like to see Pogba and Herrera making runs into the box and supporting Lukaku more from midfield.

I like us to start the season with Matic, Pogba and Herrera in midfield with Martial, Lukaku and Miki up top.

I like Rashford but I think he offers a great option off the bench.

Martial is one of the only players in our squad that can beat a man by dribbling past them. I think he needs a consistent run of games wide left and a bit like Pogba be allowed to play higher up the pitch and unburdened slightly from his defensive responsibilities.

Miki is also a useful dribbler, he has more pace than Mata but is also adept at coming inside and linking the play. Valencia is our best attacking full back so he can get forward and provide overlapping runs when Miki drifts inside. Until Shaw is fit I think I'd start with Darmian at left back and tell him to hold his position allowing Martial to play further forward.

Just my thoughts and opinions on how I'd like us to set up I can't wait for the season to start now!

Danny Lancs

1.) 02 Aug 2017 19:51:52
This whole defenders should defend first attitude is outdated now a days, if you are a FB and you can't attack and defend then you shouldn't be a FB atleast not for a big team.

You sayimg martial needs to be given a consistent run while wanting darmian as lb is confusing. Martial gets double and triple marked every time he gets the ball in and around opponents area and has no help outwide because darmian treats the halfway line as if it is an international border and he will be shot if he enters the other half. Every big team today has fb's providing width not the players on wing except our left side as either our lb is injured or just rubbish.

I think we should have tried signing a lb rather than perisic or any law except maybe likes of bale or Griezmann as that will solve lot more issues than perisic ever will.


2.) 02 Aug 2017 21:10:59
You'd play Martial ahead of Rashford? Not sure how you get to that decision.

The issue with the full backs is we don't have any pure wingers to give us penetration from the wings, a lot of teams live with that but have full backs who can get up and down all day.


3.) 02 Aug 2017 21:43:21
CSM - To clarify I'd rather have my defenders being better at defending than attacking and not vice versa that's all. Like I said if you can get both then fantastic. Sadly I don't think this is a given.

Martial would be supported by Pogba being pushed further forward and Darmian providing the cover it's all about balance. I'd like us to get back to our attackers providing the width, creativity and goal threat rather than relying on full backs.

AJH - I thought I'd explained that Martial is our best dribbler in my opinion, he's capable of running with the ball and opening up space, either cutting inside and shooting or going on the outside and delivering a cross. He's a clinical finisher. He's not a traditional winger that's why I'd like him further up the field with less defensive responsibility supporting Lukaku. He needs to improve on his work rate and movement off the ball but he's got tremendous talent. I'd like to see him get a run of games. I said I like Rashford but I just believe that Martial is a slightly better option on the left as Lukaku is obviously going to start through the middle. Toss of a coin to be honest. Just my opinion.


4.) 02 Aug 2017 22:23:04
Just my final point about full backs, If our attackers scored more goals nobody would even be taking about the full backs. It appears counter intuitive to me to base your attacking play around full backs. Even if they did provide more width they still wouldn't improve the finishing or end product of our attackers. I've checked the stats for last season and no full back appears in the top 10 players for either goals or assists.

If we'd have had a Sanchez or a Hazard supplementing Ibra last season we'd have definitely finished in the top 4 if not won the league I don't think the same can be said for if we'd had Danny Rose or Ryan Bertrand at left back.

Hazard and Sanchez both scored more league goals and Sanchez had nearly as many assists as Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Mata and Miki combined.

I'm questioning the quality and consistency of our attackers and if they don't significantly improve we'll be in a similar position to last season.

I kind of get the argument some are making but I'm just not convinced that having better full backs would improve us enough to make a significant difference. I think our full backs are adequate and it's getting more goals into the team we should be investing in.


5.) 03 Aug 2017 00:35:15
The problem is that both Valencia and blind aren't great defensively. Which makes their lack of offensive threat even that much more glaring.


6.) 03 Aug 2017 05:46:04
Danny i have to disagree, pogba will support martial but when martial drifts inside pogba can't always be wide trying to create space for martial it is the fb's job, our right side is the perfect example of how it should work, we have valencia providing width to whoever plays on right with herrera helping out from time to time, that is how it should be played.

You talk about balance, but do we need balance for most of our games, with a 3 man mf, we will have a dm covering our cb's and we will face 11 men behind the ball for most of the games and when we play in those games darmian and blind are useless.

Also it is dumb to compare ryan bertrand and alexis sanchez, our biggest issue was finishing not creating chances, zlatan missed more sitters than anyone in the league and that is after playing less games than most of the other players on the list, also how do you suggest we invest in getting goals, griezmann is unavailable, so is bale, sanchez and anyone who guarantees goals. Because perisic guarantees nothing.


 

 

27 Jul 2017 14:42:09
Good afternoon guys,

So far I've resisted commenting on preseason games because I don't think you can read to much into them but after watching the last two against Madrid and Barcelona i'm afraid to say we're still plagued by many of last seasons inadequacies! I've woken up in a weird state of panic and anxiety and I was hoping somebody could talk some sense into me! Here's my thoughts!

We are still sloppy in possession and the delivery in the final third remains very poor. The wide men have been pushed back into full back areas again and Lukaku became a depressingly isolated figure. Sadly to often we resorted to hopeful long balls for him to chase alone. Sound familiar!

I posted last week that I thought we'd see more consistency from the likes of Martial, Rashford, Lingard and Miki but I think we've already witnessed during preseason just how inconsistent they remain. Rashford and Martial are young so maybe that can be expected but Miki is a massive worry. He's played in his favoured No 10 role and I don't think he's done enough either with or without the ball to justify him starting there on a regular basis and definitely not against the better teams!

I look at our team and do we really know who will support Lukaku. Nobody has cemented their place either at No 10 nor out wide. Martial can delight and disappoint in equal measure. Lingards movement off the ball is fantastic, his energy and desire cannot be questioned but his quality on the ball often let's him down. Miki is capable creating and scoring goals but so often he makes a sloppy pass and gives the ball away and I just don't think he works hard enough. Rashford's pace can be devastating but we never really know what we're going to get at the end of it. Apart from Lukaku (who I think will replace Ibra's goals) who is going to consistently put the ball in the back of the net? We look exactly the same team as last season.

Lindelof has looked shaky to say the least. He may end up being a very good signing but we needed somebody to hit the ground running. He was bought in to improve the defence so we could be more expensive but that's certainly not going to happen in the short term anyway. We could realistically end up starting the season (super cup) with Smalling and Jones at CB!

Can anybody realistically see us playing any differently in that first game against Real other than 6 at the back (if you count the wide me) and trying to catch them on the counter. Giving possession away and resorting to long balls up to Lukaku?

Can somebody please dispel my anxieties as I'd hoped we'd see significant improvement from our attackers but I've seen very little evidence of this in pre season. Please somebody tell me I'm talking rubbish and we'll be ok!

Danny Lancs

1.) 27 Jul 2017 15:06:17
You aren't talking rubbish but you do seem to have read a lot into pre season games that you say in the first paragraph you can't read anything from lol.


2.) 27 Jul 2017 15:36:11
GDS2 - ha ha ha your spot pal it was a stupid post really I just haven't see anything new or exciting!
I flit between feeling positive and then anxious, I should just take my own advice and after all City hammered the European Champions last night 4-1 and we beat City 2-0 so that must make us brilliant right?


3.) 27 Jul 2017 15:51:47
I completely agree with everything you say Danny. I don't see anything different to what I saw last season.
We desperately need full backs.
I don't think Luke Shaw will ever get back to what he was and Darmian and Blind are definitely not the answer. Valencia is getting on and his final delivery in to the box is absolutely awful.
Totally agree about Miki he just doesn't do enough for me and looses the ball a lot. He looks weak at times and is easily pushed off the ball.
Agree about Martial and Rashford they both need consistency and in my opinion Martial needs to buckle down and work a lot harder. I can't fault Rashfords work rate one bit.
We desperately need a defensive midfielder so we can let Pogba and Herrera go out an play their natural game.
Width is another problem, we need wide players that are able to get behind the oppositions full backs and cross the ball for Lukaku to run on to.
I still think we need 4 or 5 more players. Our play is just to predictive.
I hope I am wrong.


4.) 27 Jul 2017 16:02:23
Did you watch the game last night 2 mins in rashford put in a wicked ball for lukaku which narrowly went over, there was another later on in the game. Miki has been one of the better players over the tour admittedly more against the american sides but its a lack of fitness. Against the likes of real madrid if you think we can go toe to toe with them then think that but i know we will get battered look at the champions league final against juventus they are a better more balenced side who got beat 4-1. If mourinho has to play like that against teams like that to get results then i am ok with that. Its pre season let players like lukaku gel in same with lindelof was evra and vidic world beaters from the start? Give the poor lad time. This is the exact reason i don't go to old trafford anymore the minute the going gets tough the fans get on the players back rather than try to support them.


5.) 27 Jul 2017 16:03:41
Can see exactly why Jose is after Perisic so badly a winger who stays wide and delivers great crosses into the striker. Ed better get how cheque book out fast.


6.) 27 Jul 2017 16:35:18
I think we've been awful, I'm amazed won all those games. I think we're in for another long slog of a season.


7.) 27 Jul 2017 19:23:12
Pre-season. Means. Nothing.


 

 

21 Jul 2017 20:15:24
I don't think we should be held to ransom in trying to sign players such as Perisic and Matic. No doubt they are very good players but both are approaching their 30's and to pay upwards of £40m is excessive.

I think Jose is frustrated but understands that the market is difficult and Utd don't have a bottomless pit of money! They have backed him handsomely in both windows breaking the transfer record twice to sign Pogba and Lukaku in addition to the signings of Bailly, Miki, Lindelof and Zlatan (albeit on a fee he still commanded astronomical wages)!

Everybody wants instant success but to return us to the very top is going to take time and patience. I read the rumours that Jose wants to stay at the Club and build a dynasty and what we need now is some stability. We have a great spine in De Gea, Bailly, Pogba and now Lukaku. All are still very young, talented and ambitious. In Rashford, Martial and Shaw we have great potential and good experience with players such as Carrick, Herrera, Mata and Valencia.

I think it's up to Jose to get the best out of what we've got and I'm not sure he did that last year. Although we had a fantastic season winning two trophies we failed in the bread and butter games and our league position was unacceptable. The trophy wins will hopefully help to forge a winning mentality and bring a hunger and desire for more success.

I think Pogba will improve this season and be more dominant from midfield but it's the forward players that really under achieved last season. I think this was partly due to Jose being a touch pragmatic but we also suffered from inconsistency in our forward line.

If we are going to mount any kind of challenge then Miki must step up and be counted this season. I expect us to predominately play 4-2-3-1 with Miki at No 10. If he can supplement Lukaku and score us 15 league goals from that position then we'll have a chance.

I think we'll see more bespoke performances for the big games possibly matching teams like Chelsea and Spurs and playing 3 at the back.

My point to this long and convoluted post is that I think we can righty expect more from a lot of players this season and I'm hoping we'll see a different Pogba and Miki this year who in themselves will be like two new signings.

Danny Lancs

1.) 22 Jul 2017 07:01:39
Honestly Danny, I couldn't care less what they spend, over or under said 'market' value.

We will not see any of it personally so I don't care what the club spend on players. If they spend 50m on matic, then I'm sure they are not stuck for the cash.


2.) 22 Jul 2017 07:38:21
Danny. Good post and I admire your faith in the team. We do have a nucleus of a good team, but this team is not going to win the PL, nor is it going to progress in the CL. We have a lot of good players but for me, we don't have a natural top class winger, nor do we have top class defensive midfielder (kroos), nor do we have full backs of attacking quality. Valencia is great defensively but very shy going forward and can't cross. Shaw will never make it at United and his first touch gets him into trouble. He's also very poor mentally.
We need world class players to take this team to the next level. Sanchez, Kroos or Veratti, and two top class full backs.
If we don't buy these, then we will not be winning the PL I'm afraid, in fact top 4 will be a fight again.


3.) 22 Jul 2017 09:32:26
Schmid

I agree and repeat, I think with what we have we would be looking at 3rd at best. If they don't buy the top level like Sanchez, Bale or Neymar for the No7 shirt we won't be winning the league or the CL. The Matic and Perisic route might cement top 4 but not a league winning team. I am still concerned at whether there are enough goals in the team. I would want Rashford to play so would look at a goal scoring wide player. Bale or Sanchez would be ideal but will we see the club being ambitious enough?


4.) 22 Jul 2017 09:41:27
Angel - I totally agree and personally I don't care less what they spend and I've argued that point in the past. What I meant is that we obviously don't have unlimited resources so if signing Matic and or Perisic will impact on our ability to sign Greizman if he becomes available or Verratti or Bale for example then I'd prefer us to be patient. Whilst I think Perisic and Matic are both good players I'm not sure they're much better than what we've already got. I think we've got a good nucleus of young talented players and I also think Jose could get a bit more out of some players he's already got.

Schmid - I agree mate but I think we're heading in the right direction. I think Lukaku will score goals and I'm hoping Miki can be our Sanchez or Hazard. I think he won the Bundesliga player of the year before he joined us, with the most assist and a decent goal scoring record (forgive me I haven't checked the stats) so I'm hoping with a season behind him now he'll kick on and become the player we all hoped we'd see last year. If Jose can get more consistent performances from Rashford, Martial and Lingard then we'll have a chance. We do need more but Jose can't do it all in three windows and I hope we're able to build on last year. I'm hoping Jose will stay for the foreseeable future and build a great squad capable of winning everything.


5.) 22 Jul 2017 09:41:00
JM is going all out for the Prem win this season so wants as many ready-made options as possible.

A deeper CDM will allow Pogba to attack more and Perisic will put loads of crosses in.

I'd rather have both signed that not - what with rejuvenated mhiki and Rashford too, I really feel we could win it this year. Man City still have defensive weaknesses (what with ageing Yaya and injury prone Gundagon), Chelseas squad looks a bit light.

Spurs aren't adding to the huge potential they have, Arsenal could go either way at the moment and Liverpool don't seem to be much better than last year, though apologies to any fellow fans who disagree - I'm no expert!


6.) 22 Jul 2017 10:36:09
Red Man - l agree I'm also worried about a lack of goals in the team. I think Lukaku has proven pedigree so there is no reason to believe he won't get us over 20 league goals next season. Beyond that things do look a little uncertain and we'll be relying on Miki, Rashford, Martial, Lingard and Mata to significantly improve their goal output. Like I posted earlier I think this is a big season for Miki. I think he'll play a lot of games at 10 this season so he needs to deliver. If he can supplement Lukaku with 15 or so goals and Rashford kicks on again then we'll have a great chance although I must confess it's a big ask as I don't think any of our others attackers managed double fingers for league goals last year! Everybody has looked hungry and sharp in pre season so maybe they can step up and improve. I think the talent in our squad is there but can they deliver consistently and it's this what separates the great players from the rest.


7.) 22 Jul 2017 14:24:43
Agreed red man If we get top quality world class wide player and defensive midfielder with great distribution, then we can challenge. But the only viable options are Sanchez and Veratti and fabinho.
Neymar will be great bit out of our league. So Sanchez is the only wide player available who can give us goals and width. Perisic is good but not great.
Danny, it all depends how ambitious the club is. If we want to be top dogs, then we have to buy the best players. Sanchez, Kroos and Veratti are exactly that.
If we want to plod along and be competitive but nothing special, then Perisic and matic will be bought.
I know what I want EW and mourinho and the Glazers to do, but sadly EW and the owners are singing from one hymn sheet and mourinho is not even singing!

{Ed004's Note - I don't think Verratti would be seen as a suitable alternative to Matic or Dier tbh. He's the type of calibre of signing we should be trying to make but he isn't a holding midfielder that will allow the other players to push on. I agree with Sanchez however it seems Griezmann was our primary target for that style of player}


 

 

21 Jul 2017 21:29:22
Hi Eds, any reason why my last post didn't get submitted? It was probably a little long and boring anyway! Thanks.

Danny Lancs

{Ed002's Note -

No idea, looks fine to me.

21 Jul 2017 20:15:24

I don't think we should be held to ransom in trying to sign players such as Perisic and Matic. No doubt they are very good players but both are approaching their 30's and to pay upwards of £40m is excessive.

I think Jose is frustrated but understands that the market is difficult and Utd don't have a bottomless pit of money! They have backed him handsomely in both windows breaking the transfer record twice to sign Pogba and Lukaku in addition to the signings of Bailly, Miki, Lindelof and Zlatan (albeit on a fee he still commanded astronomical wages)!

Everybody wants instant success but to return us to the very top is going to take time and patience. I read the rumours that Jose wants to stay at the Club and build a dynasty and what we need now is some stability. We have a great spine in De Gea, Bailly, Pogba and now Lukaku. All are still very young, talented and ambitious. In Rashford, Martial and Shaw we have great potential and good experience with players such as Carrick, Herrera, Mata and Valencia.

I think it's up to Jose to get the best out of what we've got and I'm not sure he did that last year. Although we had a fantastic season winning two trophies we failed in the bread and butter games and our league position was unacceptable. The trophy wins will hopefully help to forge a winning mentality and bring a hunger and desire for more success.

I think Pogba will improve this season and be more dominant from midfield but it's the forward players that really under achieved last season. I think this was partly due to Jose being a touch pragmatic but we also suffered from inconsistency in our forward line.

If we are going to mount any kind of challenge then Miki must step up and be counted this season. I expect us to predominately play 4-2-3-1 with Miki at No 10. If he can supplement Lukaku and score us 15 league goals from that position then we'll have a chance.

I think we'll see more bespoke performances for the big games possibly matching teams like Chelsea and Spurs and playing 3 at the back.

My point to this long and convoluted post is that I think we can righty expect more from a lot of players this season and I'm hoping we'll see a different Pogba and Miki this year who in themselves will be like two new signings.


1.) 21 Jul 2017 22:14:09
Thanks Ed I'll try harder to keep them short and sweet in the future I do have a tendacy to ramble on with myself!


2.) 21 Jul 2017 22:26:08
That's a good post Danny; some very sensible points.

I think you've provided some excellent perspective. Even if we just add Lukaku and Lindelof this season then that is two very good additions to the first team/ squad.

We all know we need fullbacks, wide players and a central midfielder but is it so bad if we have to wait another year?

Also, if we don't sign anymore players this window then it gives some of our youth a chance to step up which if they are good enough is what we all want anyway.


3.) 21 Jul 2017 23:06:12
Thanks Mancman, yes we need more signings, but we also need to target the right players and understand that we can't just continue to be a cash cow for other clubs. Jose has got a very good squad which should realistically be able to mount a serious challenge. I think we need to show a little restraint and patience and seriously think about the players we need to help return us to the top.

I'm presuming Greizman may be available again next summer once the transfer ban has been lifted and I'd prefer us to wait rather than blow £50m on a Perisic.

I'd also like to see Jose give Martial a chance and try to improve his game we may end up paying over £60m for him after all! I still think we'll sign other players this summer but I don't think we need to panic and I'm prepared to wait and let Jose build the team he wants which may take another few windows to build a squad he's really happy with!


4.) 21 Jul 2017 23:42:10
Danny,

I believe that Greizmann may very well be available in January if Costa joins up at that point. I suppose the only draw back is he will certainly be cup-tied then.

Good post and I actually believe that Jose wants to stay as he seemed sincere when speaking of the topic. However, at some point I would like to see his family move with him as it was apparent that weighed on him at times last year.


5.) 22 Jul 2017 16:28:35
Danny, you're on a roll here; that's another good point.

I would like to see Jose develop some of the younger players and mould a team with what he has available.

Last season Chelsea seemed light in a few positions but Conte got the best out of what he had with good management.

The same could be said with bells on for Leicester the year before.

I would prefer the team to evolve more slowly with the right signings rather than buy lots of new lesser quality players just because they are available.


 

 

 

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04 Aug 2017 09:52:39
Shappy I tend to agree with most of what you say especially regarding the injuries and his game being based around pace but surely a fit and in form Bale would transform us into major contenders for both domestic and European honours. I agree given the figures involved it would be a financial gamble for the Club but players of Bale's calibre don't come on the market that often and if we seriously want to get back competing at an elite level then it's a gamble worth taking in my opinion.

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15 Jun 2017 18:19:09
I agree GDS it's all speculation anyway.

The problem we're facing is the player is under contract, from what I've read Madrid would like to keep him and he has no real desire to leave other than to play more regularly which can't be guaranteed at any top Club he joins anyway!

Madrid can name their price, try and get the best deal for their Club and negotiate from a position of strength.

If we don't want to pay the money we go elsewhere but your probably talking even more money for the likes of Lukaku or Belotti and are either of them much better anyway?

If we don't go for any of the above who are the alternatives?

Do we go with just Rashford and Martial?

For what it's worth I don't think we'll pay anywhere near £80m and the deal will get done around £60-65m.

We set the bar high when we shelled out over £60m for the relatively unknown Martial, we can't blame Madrid for trying to get the best deal for their player.

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13 Jun 2017 23:32:48
I think Martinez would be a great signing Wallace.

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13 Jun 2017 16:22:41
For what's it worth I'd like to see us sign a ball playing midfielder or deep lying play maker. Somebody who can dictate the play, get on the ball and play incisive forward passes from deep positions into midfield and the front men. An intelligent player to sit in front of the back four, always be available for the ball, link the play, keep possession but is able to play forward incisive balls rather than playing sideways all the time, be the quarterback of our team so to speak. I think that's the type of midfielder we should be targeting. We've already got a combative ball winning midfielder in Herrera. He needs to be released forward to press and win the ball higher up the pitch and we need somebody that can feed Pogba the ball further forward where he can be more creative. Just my opinion and the way I see things and I'm not sure Matic fits the bill?

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02 May 2017 11:35:37
Good post Leahy, I suppose that puts things into perspective and I totally agree with Eric that we need a lot more from our attacking players.

Whilst our finishing has been poor I'm not sure that tells the full story!

From memory despite our struggles in front of goal we've managed to get in front against Swansea, Bournemouth, Stoke and Arsenal at OT and we've surrendered leads against Everton away, Anderlect (twice) and Rostov in the Europa.

This suggests to me that even through the stats suggests that our defence is relatively solid we also have a vulnerability at the back that needs attention.

Titles are built on clean sheets and a good Utd team should not be surrendering leads to Swansea, Bournemouth and Stoke especially at OT. If we hang on and win two of those games we'd be 4 points better off and in pole position for top 4. We've conceded last minute goals to Arsenal and Everton, if we hang on to win one of those games that's another 2 points. Title winning teams should be scoring last minute winners not conceding them and holding onto leads especially at home.

It's been an incredibly frustrating season and with better finishing and defending a so far underwhelming season could have been very different.

The unbeaten run is positive and demonstrates a degree of mental toughness and resilience. Moving forward we need to take care of the little details which make the big difference. Concentration at the back and clinical ruthlessness up front. Unfortunately it's these details that cost the money. On one hand we've very close on the other we're a million miles away, I suppose it just depends on what side of the fence you sit.

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14 Aug 2017 16:16:41
Thanks Deano.

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14 Aug 2017 12:41:57
Ha ha ha nice post Shappy but be careful what you wish for pal 😂

I remember a LGV team absolutely dismantling Liverpool at Anfield a couple of years ago playing some of the best football we'd seen in years so I'm wary of getting carried away just yet! We've witnessed a few false dawns recently but this feels different. Bring on next weekend!

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10 Aug 2017 15:12:26
Shappy - Great post pal, I agree a 4-4-2 diamond gets the best out of all our players in their preferred positions.

Rashford and Martial get to partner Lukaku up front.

Miki or Mata get to play they preferred role at No 10.

Pogba gets the added protection of a midfield anchor therefore he is freed to be more creative.

Like you've said this formation does lack width but I still feel Valencia is adequate on the right and maybe we should drop our interest in Perisic and look to add an attacking left full back before the window closes.

Sadly I don't think this is going to happen as he hasn't even experimented with this formation during pre season. It will be either 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 or possibly 3-5-2 in the big games! The big problem with all theses systems is we lack width and our attacking wingers/ forwards or wing backs often get pushed back into full back areas leaving the front man isolated!

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08 Aug 2017 22:31:13
The less said about that the better! Simply outclassed by a superior team.

Bailly was a big loss and Lindelof is going to need time to settle.

In my opinion our season will hinge on the form of Miki, Rashford, Martial, Lingard and Mata. As we've all seen we're still blighted by inconsistency in those positions and I still don't think any of them have Jose's complete trust!
I simply don't think he knows who to play out wide. Unless at least one of them can step up, support Lukaku and score 15 goals plus it will be hard for us to mount any serious challenge!

Still it's not all doom and gloom. I thought Matic looked very good, we've still got De Gea (we may have been hammered without him) Miki has achieved those numbers in Germany, Rashford and Martial both have talent, Bailly to come back in at the weekend and we won't be playing Madrid every week!

Let's not be to despondent the real business starts on Sunday and I thought Jose post match interview was very positive!

Roll on Sunday!

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02 Aug 2017 22:23:04
Just my final point about full backs, If our attackers scored more goals nobody would even be taking about the full backs. It appears counter intuitive to me to base your attacking play around full backs. Even if they did provide more width they still wouldn't improve the finishing or end product of our attackers. I've checked the stats for last season and no full back appears in the top 10 players for either goals or assists.

If we'd have had a Sanchez or a Hazard supplementing Ibra last season we'd have definitely finished in the top 4 if not won the league I don't think the same can be said for if we'd had Danny Rose or Ryan Bertrand at left back.

Hazard and Sanchez both scored more league goals and Sanchez had nearly as many assists as Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Mata and Miki combined.

I'm questioning the quality and consistency of our attackers and if they don't significantly improve we'll be in a similar position to last season.

I kind of get the argument some are making but I'm just not convinced that having better full backs would improve us enough to make a significant difference. I think our full backs are adequate and it's getting more goals into the team we should be investing in.

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