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10 Dec 2017 10:15:04
The day has arrived to show the world that this City team, lauded and eulogised by salivating journalist's are in fact fallible and vulnerable.

This is not a day for beautiful, champagne football. This is not a day for slow sideways and backwards passes. This is not a day to retreat or take a backwards step! On this day we fight! On this day we show character, we work hard, we contest every ball, every pass, every tackle, we play with fury and intensity and above all we believe! We believe in each other, we believe in the fans, we believe we can win. This is Old Trafford!

Hard work, intensity, organisation, concentration and belief will win us the game today. We need to test them like they haven't been tested before. Run the channels, get their defence turning, make tackles, put crosses and diagonal's into their box, contest the second balls, make them realise that this isn't a game of football but a game of character. It's about who wants to run further, about who wants to tackle harder, about who is prepared to sacrifice and not leave anything behind, it's about who wants it more! The time has arrived!

Sorry couldn't help myself. I've not been this excited for a game in ages!

Fascinating afternoon ahead!

Danny Lancs

1.) 10 Dec 2017 11:02:25
Danny you really sound like Leonora’s from 300 🤣 but nice 👍👍👏.

2.) 10 Dec 2017 11:14:48
Leonidas 😂.

3.) 10 Dec 2017 11:24:26
I know I'm sad sorry!

4.) 10 Dec 2017 11:44:58
Damn! It sounds like something that must be vociferoulsy spoken in the dressing room. ;)

5.) 10 Dec 2017 14:10:14
Oh Danny that was brilliant! I’m sure Jose will have these boys fired up and show the world that Manchester is still red.

6.) 10 Dec 2017 16:23:07
Are you some kind of inspiration public speaker? That gave me goosebumps 😂.

7.) 10 Dec 2017 18:35:02
And yet we had one effort on goal in the first half and about 30% possession.




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10 Dec 2017 20:59:18
I've been with Jose all the way since his appointment but even I can't defend that insipid, ponderous, dare I saw cowedly performance!

As soon as I laid eyes on the team it filled me with a sense of foreboding and Deja vu. We've seen this before and it's never worked. Have no doubts this was a defensive, negative lineup!

Martial and Rashford were always going to play as auxiliary full backs. Lingard was thrust into a No 10 role in which he's never excelled, Lukaku was always going to cut an isolated figure up front. Matic and Herrera outnumber in midfield.

A more accurate description of our formation should have read 6-2-1-1.

Rashford and Martial are both CF's! Neither are adept at playing so deep. It's square pegs in round holes. It's obvious that when two of your most attacking players are so deep it's almost impossible to get out, especially against a team like City. When Rashford or Martial get the ball deep in their own half what on earth are they supposed to do with it?

We'd played some exhilarating football at Watford and Arsenal, with Young and Valencia providing the width and Martial allowed to play in support of Lukaku. He's brilliant in the final third with the ball at his feet! When he drifts to the left and runs with the ball he's such a threat. With Lingard running from deep and Lukaku in the box we're a different animal.

The best formation for the players we have in our squad is 3-5-2! We don't need to play that every week but in the big games it simply gets our best players in their most effective positions. Arsenal was the blueprint yet he retreated and reverted to type. I don't care what anybody says we were beaten as soon as the teams were announced.

City won that game in third gear. The irony being we gifted them two goals from set pieces. Huddersfield, Southampton and West Ham gave them more of a game than we did!

Danny Lancs

1.) 10 Dec 2017 21:39:44
Well said Danny can’t argue with that.

2.) 10 Dec 2017 21:48:29
I was hoping Jose would play the same formation as he did against Watford and Arsenal. I like it. I hope we play it against Bournemouth. I suspected he'd chicken out like he did against Liverpool. Never mind. We have to look forward to the next game now.

3.) 10 Dec 2017 22:05:55
I was so so disappointed with today Park. Not just the result but the manner of defeat. I thought we'd a least give them a game but they just coasted through in third gear. We hardly made a tackle, stood off them and simply let them play. We couldn't counter as we we're so deep and I lost count of the number of times Rojo just punted it forward. Ironically our goal came from another one of his hopeful balls. Surely there's more to our team than hoping for a mistake or a set piece? In another of the games ironies they won the game in a way that everybody thought we would. It was supposed to be them that couldn't defend set pieces. Having said that when you can't even manage to string two passes together in the opposition half it's hard to get on set pieces in decent positions in the first place. Sadly we got what we deserved!

4.) 10 Dec 2017 22:27:10
Beat by the better team today.

5.) 10 Dec 2017 22:38:53
Agree completely Danny. The irony of us gifting two goals from set pieces is laughable. All I want to see is passion and determination from the players. It was a derby for Christ’s sake against our neighbours and title rivals. The players should have been harrying and pressuring city not giving them a moments rest. But instead we sat off and allowed them to play. We showed them so much respect and it is bitterly disappointing. The crowd played their part in creating a supportive atmosphere and the players and manager let us down today. What I saw today was not in keeping with the traditions of the club I love. City played the way we used to - with pace, creativity and passion. I have been Jose’s biggest supporter but today showed me that although we may win the league with him at some point, we will not do it in the United way. And that is not good enough for our great club. City have a long term plan and they are a club on the up. We have bought badly and our owners care about money. I would even say city are favourites for the champions league. What I saw today is one manager that lives and breathes a creative and beautiful brand of football. And I saw another that is happy to sit back and ‘hope’ for a mistake. That is the difference between the two sides. One manager see the beauty of the game whilst another see it in a more pragmatic way. We do not have bad players we have some fantastic skilful young players. If rashford and martial were playing under pep they would be flourishing like sterling and sane. It’s painful to admit but they have a manager who we should have signed after Fergie.

Where is our ambition? Where is the united of old? It died the day Fergie left. The club needs to take a hard look at itself if we want to get back to the top. We must invest in January and we must back the manager in the summer. I am sure after a few days I will be able to be less emotional and more objective of the situation. We must take each game as t comes and keep on winning. And then we must pray that our rivals do us a favour. Because that is what it will take for us to even have a chance.



02 Dec 2017 21:05:38
Jesse Lingard showing Miki exactly what is required if he wants to play for Man Utd again. The commitment, work rate, desire, intelligence, intensity and quality he showed today was outstanding. Talent alone is not enough. He dovetailed brilliantly with Pogba and we were able to break with pace and menace. Jose needs to show him the video and tell Miki that's exactly what I want!

Massive win in a pulsating game. How good does that feel?!

Danny Lancs

1.) 02 Dec 2017 21:12:58
Or just keep lingard in the team if he can perform like that.

2.) 02 Dec 2017 23:31:33
I think that is the point Nellym. That is the standard, if Lingard plays like that he is in the team.

Linked mid to front, scored goals, high press, dropped into mid to cover Pogba or the extra Arsenal player. That was the perfect 10 performance, can't really even fault the shot to the post, I thought it was an excellent save by Cech.



22 Nov 2017 21:59:43
Oh dear well to say that was disappointing is an understatement!
Perfect example for the old cliche
"A game of two half's"!

On a positive note I thought Rojo had a very good game considering how long he's been out. Pogba was good without being outstanding.

I have no idea what's happened to Herrera? Does he play a forward pass anymore?!

I must confess I don't understand the Lukaku/ Ibra situation? There is absolutely no way in this world that Lukaku is better out wide than either Rashford or Martial. Either play them together in a 4-4-2, 3-5-2 or not at all.

Still struggling for consistency, reminded me slightly of the Huddersfield game, i'm not entirely convinced the attitude was right in the second half it was certainly one for the style Police anyway!

A game best forgotten roll on Saturday!

Danny Lancs

1.) 22 Nov 2017 22:48:28
This game once again showed our need for genuine wingers and for a player with creative brilliance. Also as much as I like Blind he is not a top class left back and Darmian is also not good enough. Valencia is good but not great. So to summarise we need two top fullbacks, a winger and someone who can win a match on their own.

2.) 23 Nov 2017 07:32:42
I thought it showed what happens if you don't take your chances, we should of been 4 or 5 up at half time .
Looks like Jose will try and shoehorn lukaku and ibra into the same team .

Lukaku left wing? And ibra playing the 9 but standing on the half way line with no one up top .

That said very good first half played with a good tempo, really Should of put the ball in the net tho.

3.) 23 Nov 2017 16:33:06
gotta question some of the tactical substitutions. team lost balance.

4.) 23 Nov 2017 18:31:13
Did ibra score all 28 of his goals last season from the half way line?

5.) 23 Nov 2017 19:29:46
Did lukaku play on the left wing for United last season?

Not sure what last season has to do with the match last night.

For someone who doesn't support any player I think really you do .
But then I suppose you have to justify your lack of support for all the others.

6.) 23 Nov 2017 19:33:40
Nearly a 100 mil for a striker to push him out to the left wing to make way for a 36 year old to stand on the half way line .

They don't both fit in the team we saw that last night?
Strange decision by Jose which in the end cost us the game .

7.) 23 Nov 2017 22:49:37
# support all players except ibra# classic.
Lukaku scored coming off the wing at the weekend
I don't think both should play together unless booth are up front I 352 or 442
I think the substitutions were wrong with the exception of pogba.
Didn't really expect to win when i saw the team too many poor players starting last night.

8.) 24 Nov 2017 00:05:14
Didn't think we should win 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣should of been 5 up at half time, one of them days pal .
Lol that Basel team on paper where on a different level . You make me smile.

9.) 24 Nov 2017 00:13:20
Didn't expect us to win to many poor players 🤣🤣🤣🤣 pogba and co against Basel 7 points of the top of the Swiss league.
Pogba problely cost more than there squad.
You use to wind me up now you j7sr crack me up.
It's man United not zlatanunited, remember you don't support players or care about history.

10.) 24 Nov 2017 11:46:10
And you support them all NOT.
I said I don't care about players when they have gone. But as usual a bit like the sun you just make stuff up I put that down to your lack of intelligence and ignoeance.

11.) 24 Nov 2017 23:37:15
Ok Ken, what was all them post about supporting the club not the players?
Intelligence and what was that other word, Lol.

Keep it up pal it's great pal.

12.) 25 Nov 2017 14:22:50
I'm not your pal the other word was ignorance your full of it.



10 Nov 2017 18:51:45
Evening guys - with nearly a quarter of the season gone already we have a clearer picture of how our season is panning out and I think a worrying trend is emerging.

If you look at our league goal scorers from our attacking players Lukaku has 7, Martial has 4, Rashford has 3 then Mata and Miki have one a piece.

I wrote a post last year commenting that unless we get more goals into the team we'll face similar problems to the ones we encountered last year. Lukaku has been an excellent signing and he's taken up the void left by Ibra, Martial and Rashford are young players and have undoubtedly improved but Miki and Mata have been poor. Miki has been given ample opportunities in his favoured No 10 position and consistently failed to delivery. Not only in terms of his creative and goal scoring output but I think his effort and work rate has been questionable as well. Pogba who has spent most of the season injured has two goals and Fellaini who has also been injured and an inconsistent starter has 3 goals, these are the stats which bring his role in the team into sharper focus.

In comparison Aguero has 8, Jesus 7, Sterling 7 and Sane 6. This is where the real difference lies.

We are so solid defensively and when we go in front we normally win. What we can't do anymore is chase a game and come from behind. I don't think this has anything to do with formation or style of play but emanates from a lack of consistency by our attacking players.

With this continuing to be a problem do you think there is any chance that we might see Ibra paired with Lukaku? Is there any chance we could play 4-4-2 now we have Matic to partner Pogba in midfield?

Unless we find another consistent goal scorer to support Lukaku our chances of the title remain slim and the prospect of getting dragged into a dog fight for top 4 become more of a reality.

Danny Lancs

1.) 10 Nov 2017 23:11:48
I think only city have scored more than us this season but them boys are on fire.

2.) 11 Nov 2017 09:21:35
Jred - we started well but the goals have dried up. We won't mount a serious challenge unless we can find at least one other consistent goal scorer to relieve some of the burden off Lukaku in my opinion. Could Ibra be that man or will he swap and change with Lukaku? I just can't see him sitting on the bench when he gets back to full fitness especially with Miki going through the motions.

3.) 11 Nov 2017 10:50:27
So are you judging us over the the 11 games we have played in the league scoring 23 goals plus the CL games where we have scored 10 in 4 games .
So 33 in 15 games

Or just the games we haven't played well.

4.) 11 Nov 2017 11:26:35
Forget the goals. What games have we played well in? West Ham we played well. Spurs we played decent. We had a 15 minutes spell in Swansea match. We have scored goals, but we haven't been playing well. City have been playing very good football all season thus far and goals have been scored.

We have done okay up until now, but we have to improve otherwise Spurs, Chelsea and potentially Liverpool if they put a few wins together will overtake us. I'm not concerned at this time, not at all as I think we will be okay, but we haven't played well all season. We've have moments and we've ground out boring wins.

5.) 11 Nov 2017 13:06:07
Jred - I'm judging over the 11 games as I can see a similar pattern emerging. Unfortunately apart from Lukaku nobody has really stepped and supported him on a consistent basis. Rashford and Martial have dovetailed nicely and have improved on last season but Miki and Mata have disappointed.

As you know I'm a Jose fan and think he's doing a good job. I think we're heading in the right direction but until we get a player that can take the pressure off Lukaku and get upwards of 15 league goals I don't think we'll be Champions.

For example City have Jesus and Aguero, Spurs have Kane and Ali, Chelsea had Costa and Hazard, they now have Morata, even Leicester had Vardy and Marahez.

We don't have that second player yet and that's why although we scored games in the first 5-6 games they've dried up now as we lost Pogba, Lukaku had a dip, nownody else stepped up and results have suffered.

6.) 12 Nov 2017 09:33:48
At least 1 of Rashford or Martial will get 15 this season, and they Don't always play. Pogba and probably Mata will get 10. Shouldn't be a problem.



25 Oct 2017 11:26:34
Just a quick point on last nights game! I've always been really impressed when Rashford, Martial and Lingard all start in the same team. They link up well together in my opinion and we seem to play with a lot more pace and movement.

I'd love to see them all link up on a more regular basis maybe in the Cup and last remaining Champions League games and see how their relationship develops!

Danny Lancs

1.) 25 Oct 2017 15:08:21
I thought Martial was very poor again, I understand the sentiment and if they ware allowed on form then it looks great.




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10 Dec 2017 11:24:26
I know I'm sad sorry!

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02 Nov 2017 12:07:27
I must admit I was at the game and slightly frustrated when Rashford came off. I thought he'd looked our most dangerous player, Lukaku up to that point had done nothing all afternoon. I'd have took Lukaku off!
I was WRONG, Jose got it RIGHT, I don't mind being told to SHUT my mouth, just a polite reminder who's the expert and multiple title winner and maybe we (I) need to show a bit more faith and patience.

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04 Aug 2017 09:52:39
Shappy I tend to agree with most of what you say especially regarding the injuries and his game being based around pace but surely a fit and in form Bale would transform us into major contenders for both domestic and European honours. I agree given the figures involved it would be a financial gamble for the Club but players of Bale's calibre don't come on the market that often and if we seriously want to get back competing at an elite level then it's a gamble worth taking in my opinion.

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15 Jun 2017 18:19:09
I agree GDS it's all speculation anyway.

The problem we're facing is the player is under contract, from what I've read Madrid would like to keep him and he has no real desire to leave other than to play more regularly which can't be guaranteed at any top Club he joins anyway!

Madrid can name their price, try and get the best deal for their Club and negotiate from a position of strength.

If we don't want to pay the money we go elsewhere but your probably talking even more money for the likes of Lukaku or Belotti and are either of them much better anyway?

If we don't go for any of the above who are the alternatives?

Do we go with just Rashford and Martial?

For what it's worth I don't think we'll pay anywhere near £80m and the deal will get done around £60-65m.

We set the bar high when we shelled out over £60m for the relatively unknown Martial, we can't blame Madrid for trying to get the best deal for their player.

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13 Jun 2017 23:32:48
I think Martinez would be a great signing Wallace.

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11 Dec 2017 11:48:11
Jred - I agree with a lot of your posts pal. I know it's not the end of the world and I actually think we're still heading in the right direction. Maybe the final piece of the jigsaw is not being so ultra defensive in the big games. I actually think we've got a good team!

The manner of the defeat hurt maybe I'm still a bit emotional!

Anyway decent draw in the Champs League, by no means a gimme but certainly winnable so lots to look forward to!

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11 Dec 2017 10:50:42
What kind of post is that Jred?

We've just lost the derby where we got totally our classed and more worrying out fought by our fiercest rivals. I think people are entitled to give their opinions about what went wrong?

Once we start accepting performances like y'day and that City are better, we lose our winning mentality, cutting edge and everything Fergi spent building for 25 years! We then become all those things you've just listed.

There is no bigger Utd fan than me, I love the Club, I love going to the matches, I love talking and debating about football. We all know it's not the end of the world but it hurts after a derby defeat especially when it almost certainly means that they'll win the title before Christmas and we didn't even make a tackle or make it hard for them!

For the record I'm a Jose fan, I still think we're going in the right direction and in Bailly, Pogba and Matic I think he's made some excellent signings. I'm bitterly disappointed about y'day because whilst City have improved immeasurably from last season Jose still feels the need to play ultra defensive football (in the big games) asking two CF's to play as auxiliary full backs!

I just feel 3 at the back suits the players in our squad at the moment, we get natural width with Young and Valencia and Martial can play higher up the pitch where he can run with the ball and terrify defences.

I didn't get the tactic's y'day, we were sitting ducks and played the entire game hoping they'd make a mistake rather than trying to create something ourselves.

It's the only game when I've felt let down by Jose defensive mentality and it's now obvious from
his results against the big 6 that it's simply not working and he needs a major re think!

This City side are far to good to play like that and we got exactly what we deserved!

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10 Dec 2017 22:05:55
I was so so disappointed with today Park. Not just the result but the manner of defeat. I thought we'd a least give them a game but they just coasted through in third gear. We hardly made a tackle, stood off them and simply let them play. We couldn't counter as we we're so deep and I lost count of the number of times Rojo just punted it forward. Ironically our goal came from another one of his hopeful balls. Surely there's more to our team than hoping for a mistake or a set piece? In another of the games ironies they won the game in a way that everybody thought we would. It was supposed to be them that couldn't defend set pieces. Having said that when you can't even manage to string two passes together in the opposition half it's hard to get on set pieces in decent positions in the first place. Sadly we got what we deserved!

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10 Dec 2017 22:07:27
Sadly can't argue with that Boyfromburrenway.

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10 Dec 2017 21:49:43
Ive been one of Jose biggest supporter's but even I have to agree Noucamp, I think he got it wrong today! He reverted to type after two promising away performances at Watford and Arsenal! Maybe it's just a bit raw so soon after the game but I thought we were pretty dreadful! It almost feels as though the season is over before it's even began which I know is stupid. We're still in a fight for top 4 I wouldn't take that for granted either!

Another big game disappointment!

Danny Lancs