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15 Jun 2017 14:17:31
Well chaps I never thought I'd see the day when we were complaining about the Club spending money certainly not in the Glazer era anyway.

It wasn't that long ago our ambition was being questioned by a certain Mr Rooney and we were constantly being told there was no value in the transfer market. There was a chronic lack of investment in the side following the sale of Ronaldo and whilst Fergi kept us competitive the game was changing and other teams were investing heavily. I can remember us all being up in arms about the perceived penny pinching towards the end of the Fergi era and we didn't make a significant signing until we bagged RVP in what we know now was his final season.

I'm loving the fact that the Club are now spending money and targeting the best players. It's obvious that Jose has identified several targets and the Club are working hard to compete the deals as early a possible.

I trust Jose, he has a plan of how he wants us to play and has targeted the players he thinks can deliver that plan. We've come off the back of winning two major trophies, we have a proven winner in charge, the Club are prepared to back the manager with significant funds and we can compete for the best players.

The competition is fierce, we currently have the best mangers plying their trade in England and all with money to spend. It won't be easy but what I've seen is a commitment from the Club to try and return us to the top. If we're not spending it's only lining the Glazers pockets. Roll on next season, this window is driving us all crazy!

Danny Lancs

1.) 15 Jun 2017 14:29:31
Danny,

It is as if some people will just moan either way isn't it? Surely not!


2.) 15 Jun 2017 15:06:24
It is a fine line though isn't it? The money in football is astounding and transfer fees and salaries are only going one way -soon you won't get a jamie vardy or a theo walcott for less than 40 mill -the football world is mad.

I want to see the best players at Utd like we all do, but I don't want the Harlem globetrotters - the thought of us bidding 150 mill or paying someone 500k a week appalls me but probably is only 3 years away.

Kids coming through the system in numbers is probably a pipedream nowadays but I still hope for another Ronaldo, Irwin, OGS, Chicarito, kanchelsis to come in under the radar there is a lot of satisfaction in that.


3.) 15 Jun 2017 15:14:52
GDS,

We all moaned when we didn't spend and now we are all looking for value.

The Club has its targets and are working hard to fulfil them.

We've already made one signing and the window isn't even open yet. The ironic part is that we've spent over £30m on a young defender that only has only played two seasons of professional football in a position that we're relatively well covered yet people are outraged that we may spend upwards of £60m for a player that has played in two Champions League finals in recent years for two of the biggest clubs in Europe.

I trust Jose judgement and if that's what we've got to pay to secure the players he wants I'd rather us take that approach than look for value and not sign the players he has identified.


4.) 15 Jun 2017 15:56:52
Boyfromburrenway -

We currently have Rashford and Lingard who have come through the academy and we are now seeing the emergence of others such as Tuanzebe.

Man Utd is a Club that has always believed in youth and I don't see that changing any time soon. The key is investing in both the academy and the first team and trying to find the right balance.

We are seeing the Club having to spend heavily in recent years due to a chronic last of investment in the latter years of the Fergi era.

The money in football is insane but if your not prepared to compete financially then ultimately you will struggle. Of course there are bargains to be had and examples of Clubs building strong squads on limited budgets but ultimately this is not sustainable and they will inevitably fall away. Whilst Spurs have been brilliant in recent years they have still failed to win anything and if they do not invest and build on what they've got they will slowly fall off the pace and find themselves unable to compete.

There is no point in complaining about the money in the game Clubs are making millions from sponsorship and TV revenue and I'd rather see it being spent on wages and transfer fee's rather than lining the pockets of the owners who are only in the game to get rich.


5.) 15 Jun 2017 16:07:31
English clubs have never had so much money and it has coincided with our worse performance in the CL .

Maybe something in that .


6.) 15 Jun 2017 16:30:49
Jred -

I'm convinced with the top mangers all at the top Clubs in the EPL and with the investments being made in the squads then it won't be long before English Clubs are back competing in Europe again. I expect sides such as Juventus and Athletico who have done tremendously well in recent seasons to start to drop away and be replaced by the likes of Utd, City and Chelsea in the next few seasons. We are still behind but I expect that gap to close pretty quickly now. Time will tell I suppose.


7.) 15 Jun 2017 16:46:34
I wouldn't't get to bogged down with the youth side of things, that is what our club president is there to protect. The 90 year old tradition to put a youth system player in every first team match day squad will always be achievable even if they are on the bench.

I never call the Glazers and got lambasted on here during the yellow and green period being called Mike the Moron Red. They are businessmen who saw a good investment and went for it. They are only here anyway because of the greed of one man over a racehorse, but that's an old argument now anyway.

Ferguson was a bit stubborn towards the end and was trying to prove everybody wrong and in some respects he did, but there was always going to have to come a time when we moved with the modern game. I doubt we will ever see these long dynasties of domination again like ourselves and Liverpool, everyone has got dough now. And long era's for managers have gone also.

We were always going to have to change and start acting like the big club we purport to be. There is no time for time now, its back to the hilt financially and deliver if not your out. I firmly believe although we will now never know that Mourinho was history if we hadn't qualified for the CL. Its that ruthless guys. We had to change as a club and now we have even since Moyes was appointed. No CL your gone.

I agree with this Danny Lancs lad whoever he is and we seem to be on the same page, for most things anyway. Mourinho is a top manager make no mistake about it, 3 honours already will do me for starters. We won't win it every year let's face it but if we are in the mix with a chance you can have no complaints.


 

 

01 Jun 2017 20:59:13
Hi Guys,

Just thought I'd share my observations on our summer targets.

I'm working on the basis of what I think we need during this transfer window.

It's been evident to me that over the past couple of seasons it's been our inability to score goals which has been our biggest problem. In fact this has been a worrying trend since Fergi retired in 2013. In LGV's final season in charge we only scored 49 league goals, last season under Jose we performed marginally better but still only managed a disappointing 54 league goals. To put that into perspective when we last won the league in 2013 we scored 86 league goals.

I think we're adequately covered defensively. This will probably need addressing at some point in the future but at the moment we need to concentrate on improving our league position and reestablishing ourselves in the top 4. I would target the following players this window.

Kane - £100m - proven premiership goal scorer. It would be hard to prise him away from Spurs but a World record offer would be hard for them to turn down. They don't pay the wages of the top clubs and will need to finance their new stadium. I think a deal could be done if the money was right.

Greizman - £86m - From what I've read this deal could still be done if we are willing to meet his release clause. Regarded as on of the best players in the world. He has a proven goal scoring record and can play a variety of positions including main striker, No 10 and out wide. This versatility would give us plenty of attacking options.

Fabinho - £45m - I believe we have an interest in the player although there may be strong competition from other clubs. It is my understanding that a deal could be done if we pushed hard enough. I would use him predominately as a defensive midfielder, this would allow Herrera to be pushed further forward alongside Pogba and he can also provide cover at right back when needed.

Total outlay £231m a massive spend but all three players are still young and could serve the Club well for several years. It sounds like fantasy football but from what I've read all three players are getable. Money talks. With a big initial outlay the squad would only need tweaking in future windows. A CB to partner Bailly, a left back if Shaw continues to disappoint and maybe a left winger as I'm not convinced by either Rashford or Martial in that position. Those positions could all be addressed over the next few Windows if needed.

In my opinion these three players would allow us to transition seamlessly between Jose's preferred formations of 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 depending on the opposition.

Danny Lancs

1.) 01 Jun 2017 21:17:28
I don't think Levy would sell Kane to us for £100m. No chance IMO. And LB needs addressing.


2.) 01 Jun 2017 21:18:07
Danny. I would love to buy these players but we also need a CB two full backs and a winger. So around £350m spend but we can recoup some by selling darmian smalling Jones Shaw and Rooney.


3.) 01 Jun 2017 21:43:44
Stand - I think your probably right but a serious bid might just set the cat amongst the pigeons?

Schmid - I agree other positions also need addressing but I'm not sure it's feasible to do it all in this window. I think Bailly has forged decent partnerships with Smalling, Rojo and Jones this season. I'm not even sure of Jose's preferred CB pairing when everybody is fit. Rojo has improved immeasurably and maybe he deserves a chance to forge a partnership with Bailly with decent cover provided by Jones and Smalling. Whilst I understand their not everybody's cup of tea both are solid international defenders in my opinion. Ultimately we may need another CB I'm just not sure it would be a priority for me in this window. Likewise at left back I think Blind is a vastly underrated player and is a solid LB option and I think Shaw deserves another season to see if he can recapture the form that made us sign him in the first place. I think sometimes it's about working with what you've got rather than trying to buy a whole new team. I agree that a LB will probably be required but I think we've got good options in the squad and they deserve another season to see what they can do. For me the priority this window has got to be to get more goals into the squad and a replacement for Carrick.


4.) 01 Jun 2017 21:58:59
Danny i couldn't agree more on the 3 targets mate.
However you can't expect kane to do what he has done with spurs with no width whuires over lapping full backs.


5.) 01 Jun 2017 22:18:55
My Micky Mouse treble in keeping with our season 😂 -

Morata

Perisic

Matuidi

Tongue in cheek obviously and players we've been linked with. We might even have some spare cash for a new LB and CB!

Fair point Ken but I still think he'd score goals. I'd love to add a left winger in there but I'm not sure who I like and wanted to try and make a point that I don't think we need massive changes just a few very good players in the right positions. It takes time to build a winning team the rest could be done over the next few Windows.


6.) 01 Jun 2017 23:07:30
I'd be happy with the three above Danny - although another centre half and full back wouldn't go amiss either. Lindelof seems nailed on, and maybe another left back.


7.) 01 Jun 2017 23:54:04
Harry Kane £100 million * face palm* wow just wow. Can think of another 20 strikers straight away I'd rather sign. Get a grip people, Harry Kane is average against good teams and is just another rich mans Dean Ashton.

{Ed007's Note - Her that used to play Tracy Barlow? She gave me a knockback back in the day... where is she now eh? At least I'm (swear) famous on here!!!!! Grrrrr


8.) 01 Jun 2017 21:30:55
"The release clause is of no relevance outside of Iberia. If a Spanish or Portuguese club were to match it the offer needs to be put to the player. "

Eds comment on griezmann release clause .
Not so sure it's just a case of united just bidding x amount of cash.


9.) 02 Jun 2017 02:27:50
Supasub - Harry Kane has scored over 20 league goals in each of his last three seasons finishing as the league's top scorer in the last two seasons and he's still only 23. I'm not sure what more you want?

I challenge you to name these 20 strikers you'd rather have and let me know where they've been hiding? They must be some players and I can't imagine what they'd cost?

Dean Ashton never scored more that 10 league goals in any season he played in the Premier League. I get it was tongue in cheek but clearly a pretty poor comparison. I'm not sure why I've even bitten on this one!

It's hard to imagine any player being worth over £100m but that's the reality we're now living. that's what it would take to try and prise him away from Spurs and even that might not be enough as some have already suggested.

Jred - Fair point it looks like I might have misinterpreted the release clause. I'm sure I've read that Ed 2 has said a deal could still be done if Utd were prepared to pay big money. If the release clause has no relevance to Utd then Greizman would probably cost upwards of £100m as well, If we were realistic about signing him of course.


10.) 02 Jun 2017 07:37:46
Lacazette, aguero, Suarez, belotti, Gabriel Jesus, lewandowski, Dzeko, Cavani, Mbappe, aubameyang, Dybala, Costa, Silva, Firminio, icardi, Rashford, dembele, lukaku, merteens, higuain. There you go 20 off the top of my head I'd rather have than Harry Kane and 1 already plays for us, I can go on. You can lay out the goals stuff all you want but I know what I see. Stats can be very misleading. I would love to know how many he has banged in, in the CL, Europa league and competitive England games combined against games played. Will tell you a different picture.

{Ed001's Note - why are people so keen on Aubameyang? This is a guy who missed an important Champions League match for Dortmund because he buggered off to Milan to go partying!}


11.) 02 Jun 2017 08:17:04
Sorted, had to name 20 from the top of my head this morning. Next task?


12.) 02 Jun 2017 08:17:42
I had to name 20 off the top of my head this morning ed.

{Ed001's Note - I saw but just wondered why you would prefer him to Kane, when Kane is at least trustworthy? Kane is a quality goalscorer who can also create chances. Works hard, not just on the pitch where people can see him either, but on the training pitch he puts in the extra work other players do not to improve his game. That is why he has made himself first choice, when a few years ago he was barely good enough for lower league teams. He does not rely on pace either, unlike Aubameyang, who will only have a few more years at the top level, while Kane should have no issues playing on into his 30s.}


13.) 02 Jun 2017 09:01:17
A lot of those are not better than Kane.


14.) 02 Jun 2017 10:03:46
The op says £100 million on Kane ed. Last summer it was £50 million which I thought was insane. I just don't get it. £30-£35 million yes but he can't do it yet against good teams in Europe or good international teams (competetive games) .

{Ed001's Note - how do you know he can't?}


15.) 02 Jun 2017 11:28:45
Balague on Sky Sports reporting that Greizmann has a 100 million Euro clause in his contract, The Guardian Newspaper and other sports website's reporting similar. If they are to be believed if Utd meet this figure then Atletico are powerless to stop the move.

I'm not sure why the media are suddenly reporting that we've cooled our interest in him and we're now prioritising a No 9 since Zlatan's injury. His injury was weeks ago so this isn't new information. Interesting articles in the MEN basically saying we need both and highlighting that Greizmann's goal output over the last few seasons has been very impressive making him even a viable option upfront.

It will be hard job to replace Zlatan's goals but even with him in the team we only came 6th and goal scoring was a problem all season. We need another No 9 and Greizmann. In fact as Jose usually only employs one striker we still have Rashford and Martial. If we sign another No 9 that will surely limit their game time.

I'd rather sign Greizmann and let Rashford and Martial compete for the lone striker role if it's a case of one or the other? A new No. 9 will only replace Zlatan's goals and that's if they have a good season and hit the ground running. I'm not convinced Rashford and Martial will contribute enough goals from wide positions so it will leave us in a similar position.

Surely Greizmann must be the priority, he has a proven goal scoring record at the highest level, he can play in a variety of attacking positions and will support the development of Rashford and Martial.

Anyway I've had my say I think the priority this window should be to add goals to the team and find a replacement for Carrick. I can't wait to see how we line up in August!


16.) 02 Jun 2017 13:09:26
Because he hasn't so far ed. I said he hasn't done it yet imo. That's not to say he can't just not done it yet so I don't see why he suddenly would deliver consistently at the highest level and already be parted with circa £100 million.

{Ed001's Note - he played just 3 games in the CL this season and scored 2 goals, I would say that was a pretty good sign. To suggest he has not done it consistently at the highest level is just bollox. He has barely played at the highest level to do anything consistently, but 2 goals in 3 games is good going. I am not sure what more you would want from him? Or are you going to talk about his England record playing for a crap country with no service and no support at a level that is nowhere near the highest, as international football is like walking football in comparison to the club game these days.}


17.) 02 Jun 2017 14:25:36
Just my opinion ed. I haven't gone any further on England. Your just putting a thought of mine which I haven't put. I've not stated anything as fact or put words into anyone's post. I will leave it there as my own opinion and maybe in future refrain from giving it. I'm clearly in the minority by myself and won't swim uptide and told that I'm talking bollox.

{Ed001's Note - well you are in this case. You are talking about a young lad and saying he hasn't done it consistently. How on earth can someone do it consistently with no chances? If you had left it at saying you don't think he can do, that would be fine, but you are saying he hasn't, which is not an opinion, that is a statement.}


 

 

13 May 2017 12:41:54
With Spurs, Chelsea and Everton all moving to bigger and better stadiums in the not so distant future, I think it's about time we seriously considered increasing the capacity at OT.

We need to keep ourselves ahead of the rest and react to what our competitors are doing.

Other clubs are growing and we need to take notice.

Danny Lancs

1.) 13 May 2017 13:02:26
We will once disabled seating is sorted as a certain percentage had to be disabled due to new seating standards/ laws?


2.) 13 May 2017 13:58:43
I've always wondered why when you have so much money that you haven't built some huge new state of the art stadium, much like the Allianz Arena where they still maintain a fantastic atmosphere.

Is it because of the history at Old Trafford?


3.) 13 May 2017 14:22:08
Lots of things I believe Stoner:

Cost a fortune
Owners in it short term-ish, (rumours they wanted to sell soon in an ideal world) .
We already have the largest capacity by far
Location/ Planning headaches
Hard to plan finances with lack of progress on the pitch.


4.) 13 May 2017 15:36:21
Danny,

The club have been looking to expand the south stand for a large number of years but due to the railway it has always been extremely difficult. Apparently there is some new technology available that will allow us to build over the railway and that is being looked at.


5.) 13 May 2017 16:33:19
Infrastructure of the whole area needs developing when the stadium gets to a certain size. If you suddenly increase the capacity of a stadium by 20,000 etc you have to think of everything that involves, parking, public transport etc.


6.) 13 May 2017 18:02:12
I took my nipper on the tour last month and someone asked the tour guide if the stadium will be expanded and he replied that there are no plans to expand and in his opinion it won't be under the current owners. I was abit surprised because of the new plans with the disabled seating and the seats due to be lost maybe they will offset this with the safe standing trial that is being thrown around.


7.) 13 May 2017 20:33:44
I think the law has to be changed before standing can be brought back in England and Wales, and I don't see the politicians supporting it while the Hillsborough families are opposed. However Liverpool supporters groups, who are in favour of rail seating are meeting the Hillsborough families on 21 May to discuss the matter, so everything might change.


 

 

12 May 2017 11:54:49
A few observations from last night.

1. Herrera is not a holding midfielder. Like I've said on countless occasions he needs to play higher up the pitch where he can press the ball and utilise his energy and tenacity, this is where he is most effective in my opinion. Another defensive midfielder is a priority for the summer.

2. I don't mind playing defensively if it's done well, but we dropped to deep last night, we got bodies behind the ball but were far to passive!
Ok don't play a high press, but you need pressure on the ball when they come into our half at least. I don't like this growing trend of defending our own penalty box. Everybody is far to deep so when we do win the ball back we rarely have the option of a forward pass, the CF gets isolated, we have no threat on the counter and allow the other team to dominate us. In my opinion the best Utd teams play with desire and intensity, get to the ball quickly and move it forward with pace and purpose. I saw glimpses of that against Chelsea which I think was our best performance of the season.

3. It wasn't good last night, it certainly wasn't pretty but we're in the final! I hope we can finish the job and put this season to bed.
It's a strange feeling having reached two cup finals and feeling a touch underwhelmed and disappointed but that's the weight of expectation at one of the biggest Clubs in the world.

If we can do the business in Stockholm it bodes well for the future. It's important to keep that trophy board ticking over whilst we're struggling to find a new identity in the post Fergi era. A FA Cup, League Cup and Europa Cup (if we pull it off) in two seasons isn't a bad return for a Club playing their worst football in over 25 years.

Jose is a winner, his cv is one of the best in world football, I have no doubt he'll have us challenging for major honours soon it might just take him a bit longer than expected and we all need to show a little faith and patience.

Another cup final to look forward to, football bloody hell! When have we ever done things easy anyway?

Danny Lancs

1.) 12 May 2017 12:24:06
Good post Danny I would also add while rashford movement last night was great we seem to be asking him to be a 1 trick pony.
He needs to also play with his back to goal be a target to build the attack off, not just a ball over the top striker.
We are struggling to build attack because we are looking to go long or over the top so often .
Not a dig at rash, he has been great.


2.) 12 May 2017 12:52:54
Jred yeah I totally agree it's great that he's prepared to run in behind but sometimes especially when we've got everybody behind the ball he needs the ball in to feet, hold it up and bring others in to play and get us up the pitch. At the moment he just runs in behind and we play the ball long often losing possession and even when he gets the ball he's isolated and often surrender possession himself. Like you've said he's been great and hopefully he can learn to mix his game up.


 

 

11 May 2017 22:06:47
WOW!

The only positive thing I can say about that is at least the final isn't at Old Trafford!

Who's off to Stockholm? 👍✈️🍻🍺.

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15 Jun 2017 18:19:09
I agree GDS it's all speculation anyway.

The problem we're facing is the player is under contract, from what I've read Madrid would like to keep him and he has no real desire to leave other than to play more regularly which can't be guaranteed at any top Club he joins anyway!

Madrid can name their price, try and get the best deal for their Club and negotiate from a position of strength.

If we don't want to pay the money we go elsewhere but your probably talking even more money for the likes of Lukaku or Belotti and are either of them much better anyway?

If we don't go for any of the above who are the alternatives?

Do we go with just Rashford and Martial?

For what it's worth I don't think we'll pay anywhere near £80m and the deal will get done around £60-65m.

We set the bar high when we shelled out over £60m for the relatively unknown Martial, we can't blame Madrid for trying to get the best deal for their player.

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13 Jun 2017 23:32:48
I think Martinez would be a great signing Wallace.

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13 Jun 2017 16:22:41
For what's it worth I'd like to see us sign a ball playing midfielder or deep lying play maker. Somebody who can dictate the play, get on the ball and play incisive forward passes from deep positions into midfield and the front men. An intelligent player to sit in front of the back four, always be available for the ball, link the play, keep possession but is able to play forward incisive balls rather than playing sideways all the time, be the quarterback of our team so to speak. I think that's the type of midfielder we should be targeting. We've already got a combative ball winning midfielder in Herrera. He needs to be released forward to press and win the ball higher up the pitch and we need somebody that can feed Pogba the ball further forward where he can be more creative. Just my opinion and the way I see things and I'm not sure Matic fits the bill?

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02 May 2017 11:35:37
Good post Leahy, I suppose that puts things into perspective and I totally agree with Eric that we need a lot more from our attacking players.

Whilst our finishing has been poor I'm not sure that tells the full story!

From memory despite our struggles in front of goal we've managed to get in front against Swansea, Bournemouth, Stoke and Arsenal at OT and we've surrendered leads against Everton away, Anderlect (twice) and Rostov in the Europa.

This suggests to me that even through the stats suggests that our defence is relatively solid we also have a vulnerability at the back that needs attention.

Titles are built on clean sheets and a good Utd team should not be surrendering leads to Swansea, Bournemouth and Stoke especially at OT. If we hang on and win two of those games we'd be 4 points better off and in pole position for top 4. We've conceded last minute goals to Arsenal and Everton, if we hang on to win one of those games that's another 2 points. Title winning teams should be scoring last minute winners not conceding them and holding onto leads especially at home.

It's been an incredibly frustrating season and with better finishing and defending a so far underwhelming season could have been very different.

The unbeaten run is positive and demonstrates a degree of mental toughness and resilience. Moving forward we need to take care of the little details which make the big difference. Concentration at the back and clinical ruthlessness up front. Unfortunately it's these details that cost the money. On one hand we've very close on the other we're a million miles away, I suppose it just depends on what side of the fence you sit.

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09 Mar 2017 04:14:33
Evenzidaneratesscholes - League goals mate, according to Wikipedia anyway! Don't take anything I say as gospel 😂
I was just interested to see how Pogba's numbers stacked up in terms of other midfielders renowned for their goal scoring ability! His number aren't that bad really especially considering his age. My point being maybe we all expect a bit to much from him and the price tag wasn't his fault. He was under contract, Juventus had no need to sell so that's what we had to pay to get him. The price of players doesn't always necessarily correlate with their ability! How much did L'pool pay for Carroll? For the record I think Pogba will go on to become a great player for us!

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19 Jun 2017 17:12:52
That's my fear AJH, the Ronaldo deal will never happen in my opinion but if it did surely it would have be at the expense of other players!

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19 Jun 2017 14:46:30
Maybe I woke up on the wrong side of bed this morning but I hope the Club don't get embroiled in this Ronaldo nonsense, we all know how it ends!

I'd hate for us to lose sight of our objectives and throw our pre season preparations into turmoil.

Jose has given the Club his list of targets and in my opinion the Club should work hard to fulfil them asap.

Just because a player wants to leave doesn't mean the Club has to sell. He's under contract so he can cry and complain as much as he wants but if Madrid say he's not for sale he's going nowhere. They hold all the cards not Ronaldo and if they did decide to cash in surely the numbers being reported in the media wouldn't make financial sense.

If he loved us so much he wouldn't have left in the first place!

Thanks for the memories but man up, pay your tax bill and stop using our Club as your own personal negotiating puppet!

Surely this has less to do with tax and more to do with Messi's bumper new contract. It's not about the money, but what the money represents. The blokes a narcissist and he will want parity with Messi.

As a Utd fan our course I'd welcome him back, he's still the best in my opinion, but we still need other players and I just don't believe for one minute he has any intention of returning.

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18 Jun 2017 15:03:36
Agree with Shappy my thoughts exactly.

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18 Jun 2017 11:22:30
I agree Red man, we should have invested in 2009 to keep us at the top. When we sold Ronaldo the money wasn't reinvested and we didn't make another significant signing until Fergi retired in 2013 (RVP aside) .

On reflection was this more down to Fergi looking for value in the transfer market rather than the Glazers not backing him with cash? I'm still not sure.

I remember at the time Mr Rooney questioned the Clubs ambition and every transfer window we heard Fergi proclaiming there was no value in the transfer market. we missed out of several key targets including Sneijder and Hazard to name but a few.

I remember being furious about the perceived penny pinching of the Glazers and the green and gold brigade was in full swing.

Since Fergi retired the Club has backed each manager with significant funds with no evidence that they are going to stop any time soon. This leads me to conclude that maybe money was available but Fergi chose not to spend it?

Whilst I would never criticise Fergi I think he became a little stubborn (for want of a better word) and was reluctant to spend big as by his own admission he didn't see any value in the fees being asked. It is testimony to his genius that he managed to keep us so competitive without spending heavily in the transfer market. This approach was always going to be difficult to sustain long term with the emergence of City and Chelsea still spending heavily in the market. Eventually he had to break one of his own rules and sign an ageing RVP in order to wrestle the title back from City.

We are now having to spend heavily to try and inject the necessary quality into a squad which had been neglected for many years and saw the release/ retirement of several key players around the same time we lost Fergi. The squad had been allowed to age and the younger players intended to take their place were simply not good enough.

I would imagine that after the summer window Jose will be happy with the squad and the next step will be to target those players with that little bit of magic capable of wining us the major honours. I wouldn't expect to see the churn of players we have witnessed over recent years and our spending will probably reduce significantly concentrating on just one or two major signings.

Danny Lancs

 

 

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15 Jun 2017 16:30:49
Jred -

I'm convinced with the top mangers all at the top Clubs in the EPL and with the investments being made in the squads then it won't be long before English Clubs are back competing in Europe again. I expect sides such as Juventus and Athletico who have done tremendously well in recent seasons to start to drop away and be replaced by the likes of Utd, City and Chelsea in the next few seasons. We are still behind but I expect that gap to close pretty quickly now. Time will tell I suppose.

Danny Lancs