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19 Apr 2022 22:05:42
The heartache watching another toothless performance . and of course another miserable result. I have pretty much seen the full 90 mins of every game United has played (only on tv) since 95. I don't think I have felt lower in 27 years although you would think I would be used to it now over past few seasons.
Question I have for us here: what can we as fans do, to help our club?
{Ed0666's Note - you could riot? Oh wait….
1.) 19 Apr 2022 22:11:23
This is worst united squad i have seen, they have no balls, no desire to work, was a training game for liverpool.
Our players juet don't give a s. a few do but the majority don't care
MASSIVE job for ten hag and his staff.
17 Sep 2021 03:38:48
Mumbles
You said below ole Said 1-0 loss is improvement over 2-0 in semis. I think we lost 2-0 in semis in 2021 Jan and this is what he said - verbatim. Not what you think he said. It actually barely matters what he said to the press but I am just curious to understand this made up story
“City can score many great goals and you can accept that. But when you concede two set-piece goals, simple ones we should have cleared, you are very disappointed. We were just not good enough in those moments. We didn’t do enough to win the game, didn’t create enough big chances ourselves, we didn’t have the extra finesse in the games we’ve had in the league lately. We played against a very good team, they played well, and when they play well you have to play really well to beat them. That’s just the reality of where we’re at. We were just lacking that little bit. They deserve it. But we are getting closer. This is a much better version of Man United than a year ago. That’s positive, but that’s not enough. It’s not psychological, you meet good teams in semis and we just didn’t have enough. They are probably the best team in England.
1.) 17 Sep 2021 04:14:58
Were Villareal the best team in Europe or Spain? I remember us losing to them too.
2.) 17 Sep 2021 05:02:13
Look, the guys played fantastic. We were lacking a little bit (had we scored a goal from our second shot we would have been 2-2). They parked the bus really well, I got a SMS from Jose later and he was very happy with the shape of the bus.
Jesse and AWB made some mistakes, but I guess that's football. We are getting better and better and will continue to improve. We are 3% better than what we were 3 seasons ago, we get 1% better every year.
Switzerland is a hard place to come to, their crowd was fantastic, the players felt really cold, the weather was not nice but look that's just football. I promised Donny time and he got a 45 min cameo, more than what he got last game which was 10 mins, he's constantly improving. We lacked a little bit of everything, if we get that ronaldo pen, my tactics would have worked. But that's just football you know.
3.) 17 Sep 2021 09:15:24
FGIC, though it's not word for word what he said as it was awhile ago but is he not praising the team for getting closer? Is he not saying it's a positive that we're closer to them after losing?
I watched the game and I remember watching the interview and it sums him up. He's happy to be just in the mix. 4 semi final defeats, 1 final defeat and one towel thrown in the ring being 6 points behind the 1st spot in the league with 45 points to play for.
Inspiring!
4.) 17 Sep 2021 09:34:59
United Addict, what results did we achieve against the mighty Villareal in 2005 and 2008 under Sir Alex when we played them in the group stages?
In fact when we played them twice in the 2008/ 09 UCL group stages we were the defending champions and would make it to the final again that season. So we're very much at our peak in terms of European football performance.
Yet across the four games that Sir Alex faced Villareal we didn't beat them once, in fact we didn't even score a single goal against them.
In the Europa League final we out played them, we had more possession and more shots, while their keeper had to make two very good saves while DDG didn't have to make any. We then lost on penalties.
So it's not like we were schooled, or played poorly. In truth we were a little unlucky and didn't have quite enough quality to force the ball over the line to win it.
I didn't feel anywhere near as bad after the loss to Villareal in the final as I did after both times Barcelona absolutely took us to school in the UCL finals in 2009 and 2011. They made us look like a Sunday league team.
5.) 17 Sep 2021 10:35:23
"We went out early last season, but still made it to a European cup Final, so it's ups and downs "
Who said this?
answers on a postcard to norwayhecouldbeourmanager@gmail. com.
6.) 17 Sep 2021 10:38:32
Mumbles, is he wrong though? Are we not closer now then we were when he took over? Are we not a better side now then when he took over?
Also if the side isn't good enough to win, then what is gained by putting additional outside pressure on the side by publicly saying that they should be winning these games?
I expect ALL managers to say nothing of real interest and just tow the line and bring out the same old tired clichés and same old rethoric during these planned public statements. I expect it to be bland and vanilla, there are dozens of press officers and people working with the manager to prepare him on what to say. Which journalist and which questions are planned in advance.
The only time these things get interesting is when the manager and the board are at loggerheads and the manager goes rouge and tries to put pressure on the board to get what they want. It's interesting when that happens but it's rarely a good sign for the club involved as it just highlights a divided club.
7.) 17 Sep 2021 10:49:30
Just another half a billion and we might be able to scrape a draw. Progress.
8.) 17 Sep 2021 10:49:37
Ole took over a team that had qualified from their group in the champions league, something we haven't done since then.
9.) 17 Sep 2021 11:14:44
And got 81 points
We have not improved we have gone backwards and will continue to do so until wole is sacked. I do feel a little more confidant that will happen this season lately. The earlier the better imo.
10.) 17 Sep 2021 11:26:48
“They made us look like a Sunday league team”
Is this against the greatest club side in history Barcelona or is this Ole’s comments after getting beaten by the might of European football Young Boys?
11.) 17 Sep 2021 11:42:02
Shappy, knocking Sir Alex to big up Ole is a new low.
12.) 17 Sep 2021 12:11:53
Pathetic attempt.
13.) 17 Sep 2021 12:28:07
Mumbles, I'm not knocking Sir Alex, just pointing out that our greatest ever manager struggled against Villareal. They are somewhat of a boogy team for us.
After all we couldn't beat them when we were arguably at our absolute best.
I'm not bigging up Ole either. He failed to beat them after all.
Nice try at a defection though.
14.) 17 Sep 2021 12:42:43
We are streets ahead of where he took over. We have a fantastic squad now, we are in position to challenge this year across all fronts.
We lost a game of football against a UCL side after going down to 10 men.
Their equaliser has a whiff of good fortune with the deflections.
Their winner 5 mins into injury time came from a once in a career disaster backpass from Jesse.
I really think some peoples fears and concerns have been activated by one bad night in europe.
Suddenly every game we played so far we were abysmal. Even Newcastle, who we dominated.
It is early season, there is a long way to go. Does no one enjoy supporting their team any more? If we were bitten of the league after this many games I might understand it.
15.) 17 Sep 2021 13:22:25
Dodgy I've not enjoyed watching my club for 2 years now.
Its not just 1 game, its one more game.
I don't share any of your positivity I think we are miles behind when he took over. Better players here now under achieving to an even greater degree than before.
Awful submissive negative tactics when we are under the kosh.
I've said it before that ole and his approach are anti United or at least most of what I identify with as being manchester united for the last 50 years.
16.) 17 Sep 2021 13:43:45
Lowest of lows. I cringe every time I see people comparing Ole's situation to that of Sir Alex during his early tenure at United or to that of Klopp at Liverpool. Coaches with proven pedigree before coming to their respective clubs, so you can understand why faith was placed in them before taking drastic measures. And no being a good man manager and bringing a positive atmosphere back in the dressing room and club is not sufficient enough. Anyone in here can achieve that. At the end of the day Ole will/ should be judged on his achievements and though the top 4 finishes and unbeaten away run are commendable, that alone shouldn't justify keeping him in the job. The managers he's being compared to delivered, it's time for him to do the same. No more excuses.
17.) 17 Sep 2021 16:20:33
Dodgy "doesn't anyone enjoy supporting their team anymore? "
Enjoy? Frankly no.
I can remember when, win or lose, I enjoyed watching, not anymore.
About18 months ago I took to watching grassroots footie in the local park - best decision I ever made.
Have ventured to watch united a few times. Haven't seen anything to tempt me back yet.
We have a manager who doesn't or cannot manage - especially in game.
Ole seems to have done a good job so far of getting morale up and players in. The missing link is the weakness in the position he occupies.
18.) 17 Sep 2021 17:17:14
I'm not deflecting Shappy. You constantly say you can't use Jose finishing with more points in a season than Ole because that's not allowed apparently. Then you jump in your dolorean to go back 12 years to try and explain why Ole lost a final.
{Ed014's Note - ??
19.) 17 Sep 2021 18:22:14
We might not have beaten Villarreal back in 2008/ 09, but we got out of the CL group and made it to the final.
I think even Fergie did concede he did underachieve in Europe.
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24 Jan 2024 20:21:17
Isn't Varane still our best CB? Wasn't Casemiro our best player last year?
A 6 month loan for Benzema surely is a significantly better move than a 6 month loan for Weghourst? I think we all think that summer will have meaningful transfers but we shouldn't give up on this season completely yet.
07 Jun 2023 23:20:18
There's no reason for anyone to save face here. It will be really sad the new owners are basically the old owners and more of the same. Jim's desperation to win the club that he's making a deal with the glazers! That said, I do believe it's difficult for the glazers to say no to an all cash deal.
10 Feb 2023 20:12:50
Mancman
Why do you support a football club? Is it because they are owned by a group that has the same social values as you? I follow United because when I started watching football, they played the most exciting football, were starting to win something (just happened to be around Fergies 5th year) had some personalities that I liked and gave me the excitement that I fell in love with. From then, loyalties are formed and I don't like the owners, I don't like that Qatar might bid and win but I don't see me stopping to watching them play. I still feel excited every time they play. When that stops, I will too.
10 Feb 2023 01:58:14
Do people believe that Brits of all people used to rule half the world with exemplary human rights? Lol. Every country that has a growth story, has a history not to be proud of.
I personally would have preferred if football stayed away from social issues that ship sailed in Argentina in the 70s.
23 Sep 2022 12:43:29
He's an average player but it's not his fault he STILL IS the captain. Surely Ole is not calling that right now.
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14 Apr 2024 13:12:57
It is absolutely down to the manager to choose the tactics to have the best outcome from the team and options they have.
14 Apr 2024 13:11:10
On what metrics do you compare to come to a conclusion that ETH is the best manager we have had since Sir Alex?
It's surely not on how the teams play, the results, the team cohesiveness, the recruitment or even the past record before joining Man Utd. Really curious.
04 Jan 2024 11:48:58
Our forward line and attacking players are mainly not injured. I am sure by now one thinks Martial matters and the rest have been available largely.
On goal scored, we are in a relegation fight.
04 Jan 2024 03:00:58
I agree this post makes no sense now. I also think you surely can't judge a manager only by the trophies they have yet won otherwise we would be thinking LVG was a success.
08 Dec 2023 04:46:45
Maybe if you win the treble, and threaten to win it almost every year, you get a bit of a break?