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18 Jan 2020 13:34:34
So the story out now is that utd are prepared to walk away if sporting don't lower their price. Why does it feel like every transfer is a saga for utd? It's so boring a bit like Brexit.
1.) 18 Jan 2020 13:46:14
Absolute sham. Just pay the asking price or near enough. We are in no place to be haggling over this deal.
2.) 18 Jan 2020 14:06:14
It’s a saga because the media make it one. Both Sporting and Utd are well within their rights to have views on his value. My guess is that we are scarred by our recent failures in the market wasting millions on dross.
3.) 18 Jan 2020 14:29:24
He obviously wants to leave and utd are probably using this to get the price down, maybe they should ask him to put in transfer request? after all we are always screwed when it comes to selling players, I have no isuue with us trying to lower the price.
4.) 18 Jan 2020 14:44:33
This is a tactic we've used in previous windows. In the summer we signed Wan Bisaka and James fairly early on. Then we went onto Maguire. Leicester said 80 million and we said no. Dragged out for the whole summer and we eventually stump up the cash for him a few days before the window closed.
If we had of signed Maguire early in the window there would have been pressure to complete another signing or two. We delayed and delayed beacsue as long as we are "negotiating" we look like we're proactive. We sign Maguire late on and everyone is just relieved that we got it over the line.
Fast forward to this window. We've known we need recruitments in January. We've known the player is willing to come and we've know Sportings stance on the matter. Same again, if we sign him January 2nd, there is pressure to sign another few players in this window. But we will drag it out another week, stump up the cash Sporting want and then we will "run out of time" to complete any other signings.
Fans are happy because we have signed what looks like a very good player. Board are praised but in reality this should have been done earlier and maybe another addition or two added to give Ole a fighting chance at top 4.
5.) 18 Jan 2020 14:49:13
It's the line united are leaking to their media buddies that annoys me'united aren't willing to overpay' BS we overpay for pretty much everyone not only in fees but wages also. Be prepared for no Bruno but a 5 year deal for jesse on 250k a week.
6.) 18 Jan 2020 15:00:00
The most laughable thing is the list of excuses being doled out by the club, too expensive, don't want to affect future transfers, focused on the summer etc etc. Yet we all know come the summer there won't be a plan, negotiations won't have started, we will employ the same tactics and scattergun approach and end up short again. They really must think we are thick and will swallow whatever crap they serve up.
7.) 18 Jan 2020 15:24:21
Your slipping again Ni. 😂😂😂.
8.) 18 Jan 2020 15:39:06
Apologies Ken. 😂.
9.) 18 Jan 2020 15:51:14
I don't believe we will get this deal done. In fairness to the club though it seems that Sporting are being an absolute disaster and keep asking for more. You can guarantee he will be playing Tuesday.
10.) 18 Jan 2020 17:21:44
I just dnt understand why people would be happy with us paying 80 mil for a 50 mil footballer? Look at the stick Maguire gets on here, imagine we pay 80 and bruno doesn't hit the ground running? All the usual nonsense about overpaying would be out in full force.
Also the ed says sporting are doing nothing wrong, why are we doing it wrong? We have a valuation, they have a valuation 🤷â€â™‚ï¸.
11.) 18 Jan 2020 18:49:10
But Deano, it's not that we should pay more than we want, it's that we should have known from the get go that we were too far away in valuation.
In the summer we couldn't agree to a fee. He then signs a new contract and we go back in January with the same derisory bid. It's just not good business. And also insulting Sporting by having add ons like "player winning balon d'or", "United winning the champions league".
If the valuation is that far apart, move on and try and sign someone else. But no, we'll drag this out the whole window and then either pay exactly what sporting want (cementing our image as a club that will simply pay up) or we will let it fade out and the team will continue to struggle without reinforcements.
12.) 18 Jan 2020 18:53:37
We are desperate for players, every club knows this, until we build a good squad and have depth and we’re in a position where we are not in desperate need for players, we will pay over the odds! When we have most players and not in great need of signing but an addition would help we will be in a better position to negotiate better prices. We get stung by everyone.
13.) 18 Jan 2020 19:35:04
Deano, why is he a 50 mil footballer? Who makes that determination. surely the selling club?
Couldn't care less what we pay for a player as long as he's good.
14.) 19 Jan 2020 12:57:24
If it’s that boring then there is a way to just not look at it? It’s only boring because you’re following it from start to finish and reading twitter and this site, turn your phone off, enjoy your life and have a look on 31st January if we signed anyone. You can’t do something you don’t have to do then moan that it’s boring.
15.) 19 Jan 2020 17:25:07
Its a saga because the media make it thay way - man utd are still the biggest show in town and sell the most papers.
17 Oct 2019 15:14:35
Rumour today is we are looking at signing toni kroos in January. I'd be quite happy with that, still a very good player with a lot of experience which the team is short of.
1.) 17 Oct 2019 15:47:20
Kroos is a good player, however I'd take any rumour with a grain of salt. Seems to me that the club are putting out this info to try and appease the fanbase. In reality Ed won't sign anyone of any note. Same old BS when they don't have to backup the talk with action.
2.) 17 Oct 2019 16:26:05
I know he has a lot of experience and we definitely lack that but him and rakitic (another linked player) also have a lack of pace. Which is already a major problem in midfield would also want a mass wages to join something i really hope we steer clear of.
3.) 17 Oct 2019 16:39:18
Terrible signing. Lazy player.
4.) 17 Oct 2019 16:45:57
They seem to be getting in the excuses early with the PR they have been spewing the past few days. Mail had utd buying 5 new shiny old players in the summer. Woodward thinks we are all thick.
5.) 17 Oct 2019 22:55:04
5 seasons ago most definitely. now, no thanks.
6.) 17 Oct 2019 23:57:36
Agree mort.
7.) 18 Oct 2019 07:02:33
Got one of the worst midfields in the PL and people still turn there nose up at a player who would instantly improve it and would be a good addition for 2 or 3 years while we rebuild.
{Ed047's Note - especially if you got rid of that lazy over rated clown Pogba.
8.) 18 Oct 2019 08:37:09
What is it with pace and central midfield. It’s nonsense. The best midfielders dictate the pace and control the game. None of which we have. Kroos/ Rakitic are 100% improvement on anything we have.
9.) 18 Oct 2019 12:42:13
Nobody mentioned pace. Kroos is lazy though. Also he's the kind of signing that would struggle to make an instant impact.
10.) 18 Oct 2019 12:51:52
I think Kroos would be too slow for the premier league. A little bit like Fabrigas was when he played for Chelsea. I understand the argument that Kroos will improve the midfield but are we not sick and tired of the big name players being drafted in short term to try and fix a mess . They usually end in the player being on extortionate wages and declining rapidly. I cannot see how Kroos would be any different.
11.) 18 Oct 2019 13:01:15
Lads I don’t think we are in any position to turn down a player of the quality as Toni Kroos. The right midfield partners and he would flourish. I think he is capable of playing like pirlo did in his later career.
12.) 18 Oct 2019 14:13:36
Kroos is a very good player, and he is certainly better than what we have.
But that doesn't mean he would be a good signing. Di Maria and Falcao were better than what we had. Sanchez was better than what we had. Schweinsteiger was better than what we had.
Signing older players, who are moving from a top side and looking for a last big pay day haven't worked out well for us in the past.
Kroos is a great player, yet Madrid are struggling in La Liga with him as their key central midfielder. He has Modric and Casemiro alongside him BOTH probably better than what he would be playing with if he move to us.
IF he is struggling with better players in a league not as competitive as the EPL then how do you think he would cope if we signed him?
Rakitic has a bad reputation and a questionable attitude to say the least. Again a player better than what we have but probably not a good fit for our club.
Both I think would struggle in the whirly burly world that is midfield in the EPL. Both are also used to playing in a 3 man midfield rather than a 2 man double pivot. Which again would likely expose their lack of mobility and pace all the more.
Kroos makes Matic look like Kante in the mobility department. Fantastic passer of the ball, but you could probably draw a ten yard circle around him and count on one hand the number of times he leaves the circle in 90 minutes.
13.) 18 Oct 2019 16:01:11
Is that not exactly what you'd want though shappy? to play alongside pogba and having a deep midfield player with bags of energy, mctominay for now. Kroos's quality is unquestionable and pogba is better higher up the pitch where he can make those runs he makes. I'm not saying this will sort the midfield for years to come but it would I think at least help the forwards get chances. I agree with the point about players coming from teams such as Madrid and youd hope the desire was still there. If attainable I do think he would be a very good addition.
14.) 18 Oct 2019 17:06:40
Watched him for Germany against us a few weeks ago, and he was pretty anonymous. When you have opposition players harrying him, he struggled to make an impact. If he has time, his passing is second to none, but I doubt he'd have that luxury in the EPL.
15.) 18 Oct 2019 19:57:19
GD, as Stevie says above he is an excellent player until he is marked and harried out of a game. That doesn't happen as much in La Liga as it would in the EPL.
Veron was arguably one of the best midfielders in the world when he joined us. Yet he never managed to settle into life in midfield in the EPL. He also showed his class again when he left England and went back to Italy.
I would put Kroos in the same boat, great player, but ultimately one I don't think is suit to the league we play in.
Think of all the great midfielders you can think of to have played in the EPL.
Now how many of them lacked mobility?
You can get away with a lack of pace and even a lack of strength. But you will not get away with a lack of mobility in midfield in the EPL.
16.) 18 Oct 2019 20:48:45
Yeah the Premier league is completely different I suppose but I'd still love to see him in a utd shirt.
I remember when I was sure he was signing and he ended up at Madrid and I was gutted because he was so good and him and modric for 3 years were so so good in that midfield.
17.) 19 Oct 2019 08:01:07
GD, I think that's the point. How much of his performances at Real Madrid have been because he has Modric playing alongside him.
For me Modric is the player we missed out on.
And you can see at Real Madrid now. Kroos's decline is mimicking that of Modric's when he is 3-4 years younger than Modric and should now be the player stepping up as Modric declines.
29 Jul 2019 21:06:37
Di marzio saying the Maguire deal now in the final stages.
1.) 29 Jul 2019 21:29:13
When Di Marzio speaks we should listen very reliable journalist about time get a midfielder in next then were ready to roll.
2.) 30 Jul 2019 07:39:12
Di Marzio is normally on the money.
29 Sep 2018 15:23:32
The funny thing is this was all predicted about mourinhos 3rd season from pretty much everyone. He's lost his players his team selection today was baffling the football is poor. It's exactly like Chelsea 3 years ago. Even the most hopeful of us can't expect him to turn it around it's a shame but we need to say enough is enough before the season is a write off.
I doubt the decision makers will do this until it gets worse. All the club is concerned about is how much money it generates off the pitch it's losing touch with supporters, personally I'm not even angry anymore as I have started to expect very little from us.
All we can hope for is a plan going forward but I doubt we have one.
1.) 29 Sep 2018 17:27:39
Whoever decided to give him a new contract last season knowing his previous history, deserves to be shot.
2.) 29 Sep 2018 19:39:57
Most definitely absolute criminal I see a lot of the fans phone in shows and their all saying the board won't sack him well there's easy way to get rid of him the fans should be protesting with their feet don't turn up to the next game don't go I know it's prob crazy to say it but if it's only way to get rid of mourinho then they must do it. Guarantee once the board sees an empty old Trafford they will soon take action.
This hasbeen thinks he has the board over a barrel because of the payout
they will need to pay him .
He actually said it to the press a couple weeks ago .
I'm absolutely disgusted.
3.) 29 Sep 2018 21:16:27
It's about time the players who are selected took some of the heat too. They are paid megabucks to perform. Ultimately they should be playing for the fans for the shirt and for their own personal pride.
4.) 29 Sep 2018 22:38:05
Hendon, absolutely spot on mate. They are stealing a living and hiding behind the manager's obvious shortcomings. Jose's position now now untenable, and the axe will surely fall. But nobody will convince me that these players are free of any blame. Some people may be gullible enough to believe that some of these imposters of footballers are fighting for what's best for the team.
I say they need to show that they are warriors on the pitch before they try to be warriors off it. The whole lots stinks from top to bottom.
5.) 30 Sep 2018 01:30:24
Agree more than when my mrs suggests a curry betty.
6.) 30 Sep 2018 07:51:23
We have wasted more money over the years for average players, Surely 12 million to get rid of Jose is a snip .
Totally shockling football, looks like the club is ready to implode.
7.) 01 Oct 2018 12:17:59
If Jose goes before Pogba we are screwed. It reinforces the message, akin to Chelsea under AVB, that no manager will last long enough to overhaul the squad, and the players can expect plenty of power and a fat wallet if they play/ sign for United.
03 Mar 2016 20:23:46
Hi, does anyone know if the reports linking Andrea Berta as director of football to us are true? And if so is it a step in the right direction?
1.) 27 Feb 2016 16:25:12
All I know is what I've read. SAF tried to sign him as a 17 year old but failed. He plays off the right but is left footed like Robben. So he would be a right sided option.
2.) 27 Feb 2016 22:12:22
Berardi is better, younger and has a better goal and assist return by miles in the last 3.5 seasons. If you want a right winger from Italy you buy Berardi.
3.) 29 Feb 2016 10:24:51
I was always under the impression that Berardi was the better of the two, although they are both different types of players. From what I've seen Berardi is certainly more like a striker who plays wide to find space and exploit it similar to how players like Henry, Neymar, Messi and our own Martial use that space to get the run on the opposition.
Where as Bernardeschi is more like a a traditional winger or No.10, more creative for his team mates rather than looking to get the goals himself. Admittedly I've only seen him in the 1-1 draw with Spurs and a game earlier in the season against Sampdoria which ended 2-0 to Fiorentina. Both times he was lively and energetic and caused his marker plenty of problems.
I think it depends on what you want from a wide player. I feel that with the options we have of Martial or Memphis on the left then we will be better off looking for a creative player for the right rather than someone looking for goal themselves. Someone in the front three should be looking to pass more often than shoot. lol.
But like I said I don't know enough about Bernardeschi to know whether he would be a success in England.
4.) 29 Feb 2016 12:23:37
Hi Shappy,
Berardi has assisted far more than Bernardeshi over the last 3.5 years. They have 5 goals each and 3 assists each this season but Berardi has played 10 fewer games. Defensively they have very similar stats Bernardeshi has better passing stats but this could be explained by the fact he plays closer to the midfield. Bernardeshi's performances drop off when he plays further forward.
Goals win games if you play with 4-3-3 or a slight variation of Berardi is your man. Memphis- Martial - Berardi would offer a very fluid and skilful front 3. Plus with the emergence of Rashford you could move them all around (Berardi like Martial can play across the front 3 positions) .
Hopefully Memphis comes good and gets to the level he was performing at at PSV and we buy a wide forward for the right.
5.) 29 Feb 2016 12:37:23
If I had the choice Beradi would be my first choice aswell!
The guy has been impressing for months on end now and I think now it's time for him to take a step up and imply himself in a new team ie Manchester United?
6.) 01 Mar 2016 14:51:06
Some sites are now linking us with Beradi?
I hope there is some truth in these rumours!
Awesome signing if we can pull this one off!
But, A solid keeper and defence needs to be primary targets!
Mustafi, Laporte and Butland ALL linked too?
7.) 01 Mar 2016 22:55:14
Berardi will end up at a decent Italian team ie one of the Milan Clubs, Italian players don't usually do well in England tbh
Goalkeeper situation if De Gea goes, we will enter the market, if he stays, we won't
I think a CB is needed, Jones a liability and at best our 3rd choice, Mustafi is decent, Laporte is wanted by City, I think United will look at Stones seriously, only issue is we need someone bit more "ready" and commanding, my first choice is Hummels but think he could be off to Spain before England
Looking at the squad at the moment, I have listed 3 positions we need addressing
Centre Back, Centre Midfield and a Right Wing
Centre Back we discussed, the CM could be Renato Sanches I reckon, think he fit, Right Wing is interesting, Jesse Lingard is doing a decent job but reckon we need competition their, pipeline dream is Gareth Bale, logically we could be looking at Mahrez, Guedes etc.
Players to be sold
Bastian Schweinstger - No longer the player he was, basically taking up our wage budget, I would move him on
Marouane Felliani - No against him but isn't the type of player we like
Antonio Valencia - Just a bit part player.
8.) 02 Mar 2016 09:03:30
Shane,
Zola was terrible eh?
9.) 02 Mar 2016 10:09:10
Largely agree Shane. I too think Shane will be closely looked at. i'd like another young eh get, Bernardeshi is popular at the moment and I like the fact that he is very creative and cuts inside like Robben. Saúl I think might've the midfield target, rumoured to have rejected a contract too.
I also think that we need another striker despite the emergence of Rashford. Someone young like Morata or Icardi who can be rotated I and out the side. Last point, I'd love to see Memphis tried on the right also, think he could do well.
10.) 02 Mar 2016 10:36:32
I can't see Saul leaving Atletico, he will get his contract he is after
Memphis is best at cutting in, Ronaldo like, he could do a decent job on the right but is far more effective on the left
I'm not sure about the striker situation tbh with Rashford emerging, Martial is seen as the future no 9 for us.
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06 Nov 2023 20:37:21
I don't mind Gary Neville as a pundit, but as a commentator I can't stand him. If anyone's watching Tottenham vs Chelsea he has made the game unbearable to listen to for the first half an hour.
1.) 07 Nov 2023 11:31:30
Can't stand him full stop.
2.) 07 Nov 2023 12:47:48
He just has fat too much to say about pretty much everything. I also wish he would stop saying 'at this moment in time', when 'now' would do.
3.) 07 Nov 2023 17:00:32
Over-opinionated or not, I sometimes think he makes a good point.
Then I just spare a few moments to remember his hilariously bad stint at Valencia, and deduce that this person is not in a position to offer pearls of wisdom on anything at all.
4.) 07 Nov 2023 18:08:57
Might’ve been a poor manager Spenno. But he’s played the game at the highest level for about 15 years. His opinion holds plenty of weight.
5.) 07 Nov 2023 20:09:30
If Gary Neville isn't in a position to talk about football I don't know how we are!
6.) 08 Nov 2023 13:26:35
I'm not paid for the codswallop that comes out of my mouth though Mumbles!
7.) 08 Nov 2023 18:46:40
That's because you were not good enough at football to earn your living from it spenno. He has done that rather successfully and is doing a very good job as a pundit very successfully. He has also been very successful outside of football with his business ventures.
24 Sep 2023 15:41:33
The standard of officiating in the Premier league is a shambles, the inconsistency is just unbelievable. Its like there's a set of new rules each week around offsides and handballs. I've literally just watched a Romero handball given against Arsenal which a few weeks ago wasn't even looked at when Garnachos shot hit Romeros hand in similar fashion. Last night Evans had a goal disallowed while a City goal the other week was aloud to stand in the same circumstances. It doesn't make sense anymore and just lately we seem to have been on the wrong end of the decisions.
1.) 24 Sep 2023 16:38:49
I agree GD. Also when the refs go to the monitor to view it, the replay is normally just a still of the ball hitting his hand, maybe going back a frame or two.
The ball is hit at Romero from a yard away. Of course his arm is in the air, but he's landing from jumping trying to spin his body in a tight space, your arms move.
There's no rhyme or reason to some of their decisions. If it's consistent, then we all know the rules but as you say, they're so inconsistent in what they view a handball or a foul as its infuriating.
2.) 24 Sep 2023 19:38:05
I was just thinking the same thing after watching Romero's hand ball against Arsenal. Both might have been deemed to have been accidental, but both involved the hand away from the body preventing a shot from proceeding in the direction of the goal. So what's the difference? If VAR was intended to remove controversy then it has failed to do so. Refs are still having to apply judgment and in too many instances it seems they are extremely inconsistent, which makes the laws arbitrary.
Hojlund was in an offside position but I do not believe there was any chance the goalie was saving Evans' header so he should not have been deemed to be interfering with play.
3.) 24 Sep 2023 20:42:32
Agreed, i watched sky on Saturday morning, where they talk about the previous week, and Mike Dean basically said that at a referees meeting midweek they mostly agreed that most Var decisions last week were wrong. He then tried to make excuses for why mistakes are made but the fact is Var has taken away all those excuses. The fact is referees are rubbish, the FA's constant tweeking of rules is rubbish and in general football is going down the toilet. It all comes down to TV, they now run football.
4.) 24 Sep 2023 21:59:11
Hojlund was in an offside position, the goal was correctly ruled out.
The one for city was a mistake by the officials, it should’ve been ruled out.
The incident when we played Spurs was handball, I thought it was nailed on that a pen would be awarded. Seeing that one today, and the one against Eriksen mid-week, is very frustrating.
The problem is not the technology, the problem is that officials in England are poor quality and don’t know how to officiate football matches consistently.
Officiating at world cups and euros is so much better. Why we have such poor referees I don’t know, but it needs to change because there’s talking points every week and what seems to be an apology every other.
5.) 24 Sep 2023 22:06:44
The level of refereeing in this country is nothing short of scandalous, not talking about united, but any game you watch will have a disgraceful mistake, every game!
6.) 25 Sep 2023 00:13:35
When I was a lad many years ago if the ball hit your hand in the penalty area it was pretty much always given as a penalty. Maybe they need to make the rule less open to arbitrary interpretation. If it hits the hand in and outstretched position then it's a penalty. End of story. Who's to say if the offense was "deliberate" or not? You can't go around getting into the player's mind. Simplifying the rule will lead to more consistency.
We may all think the referees are rubbish, making unconscionable errors notwithstanding VAR, but the big question, with the technology available today to commentators and fans, is how many more errors would they make without it. A lot more I'd wager.
Of course, refereeing controversies are part and parcel of what makes the game interesting.
7.) 25 Sep 2023 06:10:05
Newcastle first goal today clearly hits Gordon hand before the cross? Thought that was nailed on disallowed!
8.) 25 Sep 2023 06:50:52
Yep, I agree the standard of reffing is at an all time low. Especially var which is now a car crash and mainly handball and offside. But I watch a lot of Italian football and believe me, its just as bad there. Var is the worse thing ever happen to football. Its ruined it and taken away what we all love about the game. celebrating a goal.
9.) 25 Sep 2023 08:21:16
The handball shambles blights practically every game sadly. Every cross that is blocked usually ends up with a scream for a penalty and they're usually given. Penalties used to be quite uncommon in games, they'd be given for a genuinely bad foul or stonewall penalty but now it seems every game is going to get one.
10.) 25 Sep 2023 12:38:22
ESN,
The officiating is apparently better in the championship so we will be loads better next season.
11.) 25 Sep 2023 16:02:49
Referees just need to be called to order more harshly done they are currently. If players are punished for bad tackles, supposed diving and supposed time wasting them certainly bad officiating should come with stern sanctions!
12.) 25 Sep 2023 17:02:41
GDS2
We get the sarcasm. Out of interest did anyone actually say they thought we would be relegated?
13.) 25 Sep 2023 18:44:53
Redman, yes ESN has us down as being relegated. We've also been told that Clayton Blackmore is suicidal, and it's also the apocalypse.
Football, bloody hell.
14.) 25 Sep 2023 22:26:19
Red man,
Yes afraid they did mate, hence my joke.
15.) 25 Sep 2023 22:30:23
I see you a few like making things up. there's a difference between actually saying we're getting relegated and a worry that we might. learn to read but I see you like turning against anyone who has a different view. So do one I'm done.
16.) 27 Sep 2023 19:34:37
ESN,
Oh grow up it’s a joke.
04 Sep 2023 06:18:28
I feel like we were robbed yesterday, Clear penalty for the challenge on hoijlund and I still can't see how Garnacho was off! Var is the biggest scam in football.
1.) 04 Sep 2023 07:14:14
I’m confused how anyone can say he’s not offside, just sounds so bitter, he’s clearly off.
Better performance though especially 2nd half, inches away from a 2–1 win.
2.) 04 Sep 2023 07:37:39
I'm confused how anyone can say he's clearly off but there you go.
3.) 04 Sep 2023 07:42:37
It’s not like the lines are even that close, the defender just about pulls back and leaves Garnacho slightly offside, he looked off in real time and looks even more off on the pictures, so close but not to be, no point in arguing it as it’s not going to change.
4.) 04 Sep 2023 07:52:14
This is the thing though, he looked onside in real time and even from the still pic Salibas head looks past Garnachos shoulder which the commentators even referenced before the decision was given. I think we can feel hard done by tbh. But I'd imagine Arsenal said the same thing last season at old trafford. Var for me has changed the game for the worse and to top it all ex ref Mike Dean was giving his 'unbiased' opinions on the decisions after the game.
5.) 04 Sep 2023 08:03:28
Garnacho was offside. The End.
6.) 04 Sep 2023 08:03:53
I would not complain much about Rice's goal. Evans should have gone down earlier. There was a clear penalty on Hojlund, I don't know why that was not even viewed at. Studs up challenge on Bruno by Saka, if that was earlier last season, this challenge would have been yellow, but this season when yellow cards are showered on tiny tiny incidents, Saka's should atleast have been viewed by Var.
Garnacho was not offside, the decision was made in such a hurry. Anyways we played really well when Hojlund came on. It was exciting to see a striker apply himself physically on arsenal defense.
Intenational break and we will surely see more commanding performances by players.
7.) 04 Sep 2023 08:06:13
They did not show a replay of the incident and I just saw a video posted. 100% penalty and now I can see why eth is fuming. Go have a look. Nothing in the news about it, typical.
The offside thing is offside as i assume the lines and technology is a lot more accurate than what we are seeing on our screen.
8.) 04 Sep 2023 08:58:51
We can at least take some positives away from yesterday. I think we had a gameplan that was near perfectly executed but for the disallowed goal against a very good Arsenal team who I think will be right up there at the end of the season. Hoijlund did more in 30 minutes yesterday than Martial has done for 12 months and will help the balance of the team he looks a handful. The defence is definitely a concern though, we can't be finishing a game with Leicester 2017 cb pairing. I was more concerned after the win against Wolves than yesterday but we really need to start taking points off top teams away from home.
9.) 04 Sep 2023 09:14:33
GD,
Totally agree with everything in that post mate.
10.) 04 Sep 2023 14:30:31
I never got to see a replay of the penalty incident, so can’t really comment on that. The offside incident was frustrating though. Perhaps he was off by a millimeters or two, but I was under the impression that VAR was only supposed to intervene in the case of a clear and obvious error. How anybody could say that was clear is beyond me, and so as the flag never went up, I would have expected the goal to stand.
None of this changes the fact that our performance was nowhere near good enough, but it would have at least allowed us to head into the international break on a positive note.
11.) 04 Sep 2023 14:31:56
He was offside. It would’ve been a soft pen.
We didn’t quite have the luck we needed but there’s positives to take from yesterday.
The biggest being Hojlund. How refreshing was it to see a centre forward imposing himself on defenders. The lad looks so strong, and without wanting to put too much pressure on him, I hope he becomes the focal point we’ve been de desperate for.
12.) 04 Sep 2023 15:29:06
Hoijlund was like a breath of fresh air. He didn’t get on the ball much, but when he did, it usually led to something happening. Even when he didn’t, the way that he put himself about and off the ball runs gave the defenders something to think about.
Let’s just hope Varane and Martinez are fit again after the international break, because if we have to start Evans and Maguire against Brighton I can see them tearing us apart. They just demolished Newcastle, who arguably have the best back line in the league.
13.) 05 Sep 2023 15:07:55
Add to all this that the corner leading to Rice's dubious goal shouldn't have stood. Disgraceful refereeing imo and like I said referees sometimes deserve to be told off and then some!
03 Sep 2023 13:31:31
Hopefully we get to see Hoijlund play today I've got a really good feeling about him.
1.) 03 Sep 2023 15:10:20
He is basically the big hope for the season. A lot of pressure for him, but I honestly think this team goes up a few levels with a proper striker with energy and movement and a bit of magic up front. Rashford is a winger. Martial has no natural movement in the box whatsoever, and is always injured. I hope he can make the number 9 role his this year.
2.) 03 Sep 2023 15:23:33
How can he seriously not make the number 9 role his own, he not even got a challenger to him, which in itself is an unhealthy situation! So let’s hope he can score a few.
3.) 03 Sep 2023 15:38:32
Martial still No 1 striker today apparently.
4.) 03 Sep 2023 15:50:54
Love to see the young lad come in and do a great job of course but my head tells me that he could be on the end of a hammering today -our midfield will be overun and a makeshift defence does not look good.
5.) 03 Sep 2023 18:38:36
I thought I was in another decade not 2023, when I see McGuire and Evans as CB pairing, now I suppose you’re all going to say to me none of that planning is down to Ten either! And what was it Shappy a stronger team than last season! Of course it is, it’s just me being negative ain’t it!
6.) 03 Sep 2023 19:30:27
thought it would be a loss. too many players out and not settled team. will get much better. We are decimated at the back and martinez injury a big concern. Said all along no third striker needed even on closing day of the window, need a cb but finances would not allow it.
7.) 03 Sep 2023 19:58:18
Ahmed what you mean did not need a 3rd striker, so I guess your saying Rasmus who is 20 played about 25 mins in EPL, not a prolific scorer anyway is number 1 striker for a supposedly a possible EPL and Champs league team and your classing Martial as our Number two striker, I agree with you we did not need a 3rd Striker we needed a FIRST striker.
we seriously have to face it sad and hard to say we are not a big club anymore, we don’t either enter the race to sign top players any more take Kane, he already scoring, in another country, Bellingham he got 4 in 4 and he a midfielder and Rice even he scoring as well as controlling games, we did not even enter the bidding for any of them, and people say they did not want to come or we could not buy, no you can’t buy if you not in the race…you can’t win the lottery if you not bought a ticket. 6 points adrift and 11 goals now, and personally even with the players bought and injured back I don’t see that bridges the gap we have got ourselves in even this early in the season, you need quality we been buying 2nd and 3rd tier players!
Ok we got injuries but to go into a season without a recognised No 9 and with McGuire and Evans as CB’s is bordering on insanity.
Usual bunch will say pessimistic but if you think we are winning anything with this bunch well time to wake up and smell the coffee.
This is not just based on these 4 games the end of last season was just as bad and last 10 years were worse then bad, yes it’s a little better, but not what it should be with half a billion spent.
Sorry it that upsets but it’s my opinion.
8.) 03 Sep 2023 20:02:42
Very smug Forest fan here. not nice is it lads?
Uuuuu (Original) Redddddds!
9.) 03 Sep 2023 20:08:49
If you finish a game with 5th and 6th choice CB you’re always going to struggle, disappointing as thought we deserved at least a point but another away game against a rival where we have struggled.
10.) 03 Sep 2023 20:10:03
Not a settled team? Go on then. Enlighten me as to who, apart from the keeper didn’t play last year in the starting 11?
I hate this crap about the team isn’t settled etc. It’s the same for every team from day 1. If they are not settled then perhaps the manager did not use pre season sensibly.
The fact is……. we were rubbish. 1 shot on goal in first 20 mins.
Awful in fact. But I’ll never stop supporting or believing the next game will be better. But please don’t make excuses for the same rubbish as last year.
Only positive. Hoijlund looks a menace.
11.) 03 Sep 2023 20:38:25
To be fair re: the injuries, not many sides could expect to have both their first choice centrebacks and their two LBs injured at the same time, I think most clubs would struggle in these circumstances hence an emergency and unexpected loan being required.
I thought we were unlucky with the disallowed goal and the penalty reversal was the right decision. But I hope Erik's possession-based tactics are able to expand beyond passing the ball between our defenders and Onana. Other teams (see Spurs and Brighton) have also brought in managers reknowned for their pressing style but are exciting and attacking. Hope once everyone is fit we can see what it is he has in mind because sometimes it's a struggle.
12.) 03 Sep 2023 20:44:50
We had 2 off our back 4 and then with Martinez going off 3 of the back four missing. We had evans and maguire playing the last 15 minutes and our replacements are a major trade off in quality.
Mount is injured, Ambrabat yet to kick a ball, hoilands first 25 minutes of epl then you have you players like Mainoo out, Amad out, sancho and mc and not sure why they missed the game, who give you options later in the game. We lacked options and went with the best that was available.
I understand people being upset and wanting to blame something or someone. Not concerned one bit, this is a really good group and once settled will win a lot of games and pretty optimistic on our chances this year.
But if it makes you happy stay negative and find all the negative things you want bud.
13.) 03 Sep 2023 21:02:54
Sancho excluded for a poor week in training according to Erik, but Sancho himself has already refuted this on social media. Hopefully he can press on. Maybe we let the wrong winger go :D.
14.) 03 Sep 2023 21:27:22
Ahmad, you’re 100% correct. I thought we actually played very well all things considered. Especially the last 25 minutes after Hojlund came on. Changed the look of the team completely in the final third.
15.) 04 Sep 2023 04:43:58
Ahmed, the players you list missing
Sancho…. gone virtually
Varane always injured
Mount. Seen absolutely nothing from him, fish up a tree in this system
McT not really wanted can’t make the team
Amad. Never gets a game when is fit
Mainoo. As he ever even played in EPL yet
If any of the above are reason we lost this game, then your in for a long season indeed.
16.) 04 Sep 2023 07:37:46
Shaw, Malacia, Martinez, Varane, Lindelof, Amrabat, Mainoo, Mctominay, Sancho, Amad were all missing at the end of the game. It’s ok to just admit we had a few injuries without having to argue every point anyone ever makes Maze.
02 Sep 2020 19:20:38
Van de beek is official. Hopefully he can be as good as our other Vans we've had.
1.) 02 Sep 2020 19:58:35
Camper and Cara, not forgetting Ice Cream.
25 Oct 2019 21:46:45
He's had a really good start for them.
18 Oct 2019 20:48:45
Yeah the Premier league is completely different I suppose but I'd still love to see him in a utd shirt.
I remember when I was sure he was signing and he ended up at Madrid and I was gutted because he was so good and him and modric for 3 years were so so good in that midfield.
18 Oct 2019 16:01:11
Is that not exactly what you'd want though shappy? to play alongside pogba and having a deep midfield player with bags of energy, mctominay for now. Kroos's quality is unquestionable and pogba is better higher up the pitch where he can make those runs he makes. I'm not saying this will sort the midfield for years to come but it would I think at least help the forwards get chances. I agree with the point about players coming from teams such as Madrid and youd hope the desire was still there. If attainable I do think he would be a very good addition.
18 Oct 2019 07:02:33
Got one of the worst midfields in the PL and people still turn there nose up at a player who would instantly improve it and would be a good addition for 2 or 3 years while we rebuild.
{Ed047's Note - especially if you got rid of that lazy over rated clown Pogba.
12 May 2019 09:14:42
Obviously the title race isn't getting enough clicks so put a non story concocted by a pundit about man utd on to get some interest.
04 Sep 2023 08:58:51
We can at least take some positives away from yesterday. I think we had a gameplan that was near perfectly executed but for the disallowed goal against a very good Arsenal team who I think will be right up there at the end of the season. Hoijlund did more in 30 minutes yesterday than Martial has done for 12 months and will help the balance of the team he looks a handful. The defence is definitely a concern though, we can't be finishing a game with Leicester 2017 cb pairing. I was more concerned after the win against Wolves than yesterday but we really need to start taking points off top teams away from home.
04 Sep 2023 07:52:14
This is the thing though, he looked onside in real time and even from the still pic Salibas head looks past Garnachos shoulder which the commentators even referenced before the decision was given. I think we can feel hard done by tbh. But I'd imagine Arsenal said the same thing last season at old trafford. Var for me has changed the game for the worse and to top it all ex ref Mike Dean was giving his 'unbiased' opinions on the decisions after the game.
04 Sep 2023 07:37:39
I'm confused how anyone can say he's clearly off but there you go.
09 Jul 2023 08:00:42
Probably the worst reply I've ever read on this page Singh.
16 Aug 2020 13:27:38
I really think our attacking players would of hurt Barcelona they were terrible at the back. Also why would thiago want to leave that Bayern team they are unbelievable.