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23 Oct 2015 08:31:26
Could any Eds shed light on Ballagues comments this morning regarding messi having been contacted by 2 BPL teams? !

Guy

{Ed002's Note - It would not be an FFP issue in any one year for a number of clubs but it would be an issue for any club looking to do any other business over forthcoming years. And the amounts of money involved are well beyond significant. As I have explained before, although Barcelona have not been hawking Messi around, my expectation remains that Messi will be available and Barcelona will start looking to rebuild around Neymar from January 2016 when they can start bring players in again. And I expect that Barcelona will make Messi available from next summer - regardless of who the manager is at that time. Whether or not there would be any takers is another matter, and Barcelona are well aware of that and are looking at the same of others to raise funds. A number of questions were asked of representatives of UEFA in December 2014 regarding the transfer of the financially very high-end players and the impact on FFP. It is clear that exceptions would need to be put in place as the alternative could be lawsuits from players regarding restrictions on trade. In the past Messi has turned down a transfer to one side who had agreed to meet Barcelona's then €250M price tag, and Barcelona and a commercial partner resisted an approach by a commercial organisation on behalf of an English side with an offer to buy, or at least part fund, the player. I am aware that in Spain there has been speculation about an offer being made during the summer 2014 transfer window, but it is "largely" incorrect. This all started in 2012 when in mid December Anzhi made an offer to Barcelona that matched the €250M euro release clause that existed in his contract, and put up what I am told was a "very" significant personal package. However, Messi was not interested in a move to Russia and Barcelona did not want to sell - so Messi, in early February 2013, extended his contract with Barcelona. In the early summer of 2013 efforts were being made by Adidas to broker a deal that would get Messi away from Nike and to one of their three high-profile clubs. Very quickly Real Madrid were ruled out and with Pep Guardiola moving to Bayern Munich that pretty much saw the end of any chance of a move there (given the strained relationship) at the time. This left Chelsea and I can confirm that discussions were held about making a firm bid - at this point we are in late 2013 and early 2014 and Messi was in a verbal spat with Barcelona about getting a further extension - which the club were against. Ultimately, the player was (at least in his eyes) available during the Spring of 2014 and at that point Chelsea and Adidas made his management representatives and Barcelona aware of what they would be willing to do to make a transfer happen. Since then he has again extended his contract with Barcelona. I understand that again they see three possible destinations for the player but I am not going to get involved in any further speculation at this time. The situation will be if the right money were offered then Barcelona would be open to selling - and if the package were good enough, the player would consider any offers. The difficulties include his tax issues and the vast amounts of money involved.}


1.) 23 Oct 2015 13:39:18
Messi next summer then or Ronaldo!

But seriously, it could be a very interesting year or two with the two worlds best players potentially leaving their clubs and moving on - will be a fascinating development regardless of who is involved. I guarantee that we would make an effort for either though.


2.) 23 Oct 2015 16:03:12
Thanks Ed, quite interesting.


3.) 23 Oct 2015 16:24:50
I beleive a football finance guy actually reported to the bbc a while back that only us and Madrid have the resources to purchase Messi.


4.) 24 Oct 2015 11:53:56
Thanks for the response! Very interesting reading!

{Ed002's Note - No problem. As for the previous post, the "football finance guy" was wrong if that is what was told to the BBC.}


5.) 24 Oct 2015 13:20:18
Would be a waste of money.


6.) 24 Oct 2015 19:23:49
Can't see either moving. Maybe in the summer of 2017 but not if they keep going at the rate they are going. Neither seems to show any decline and by all accounts unaffordable as most teams would need to sell half their players thereafter and prune wages as ed002 puts it.


7.) 24 Oct 2015 20:12:12
That's why it would be a waste of money. We have other issues.


8.) 24 Oct 2015 23:13:01
Messi wouldn't have the toughness of character for the premier league.

My guess would be PSG in Ligue 1.


9.) 25 Oct 2015 01:08:04
I'm sorry but this is just crazy talk. Messi is a great player and would be a great player in any league. Do you not think he has been targeted and kicked /double man marked in the Spanish league? I've seen games in the last where he has has 3 players constantly tracking him.

He would be the most fouled player in the league but he would still be amazing.

{Ed007's Note - And he'd still be a cheat!}


10.) 25 Oct 2015 07:40:50
Gav

100% agree and absurd to think he would not light up the Pl like he does the spanish league or any other league. For me the best in the world in any league but we will never see him at United.


11.) 25 Oct 2015 08:36:31
Ed you said that "Adidas wanted to get Messi away from Nike" do you mean in terms of the fact the Barcelona strip has a Nike logo because as far as I am aware he signed up with Adidas in 2006 as I remember a high profile law suit by Nike against Adidas at the time?

Also to anyone who says he will be a waste of money or wouldn't be a hit the PL get your head your ***. He is the best of the best and even better than what was previously known as the best, infact he is the definition of the best and the Oxford dictionary should be looking to add the word Messi as a new synonym for the word best.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, they wanted to get him away from a club sponsored by Nike to one of the three high profile clubs they sponsored.}


12.) 25 Oct 2015 13:50:49
Maze stop being a fud. I agree he's a top player but we have other priorities.

Can we afford to pay 180 million plus all the hidden transfer costs plus 500000 a week in wages for 1 player?

At a time when we need to ease Rooney out and think about a long term replacement given martial and Wilson are both teenagers. We need a right winger. We need a long term replacement for Carrick and Schweinsteiger. We could do with a utility fullback who could cover Shaw and Darmian rather than using young and Valencia. Given the question marks over rojo and jones and that blind is a fill in we need a centre back.

I think that's a better use of money than playing fantasy football.


 

 

28 Jul 2015 15:50:10
Do any of the eds know if we have shown any interest in benzema, i would much prefer him to lewandowski et al.

Guy

{Ed004's Note - he will most likely be staying at Madrid this season}


 

 

21 Jan 2015 18:33:44
With Chelsea being strongly linked with Cuadrado have we shown any interest, or is there a chance of snatching from the clutches of jose by matching his buyout clause?

Guy

{Ed002's Note - Barcelona were looking to replace Dani Alves with Cuadrado but due to the delay in the sale of Alves lost out to Fiorentina in the summer who finalised the purchase of the rights held by Udinese. That gave them full control over the future of the player but efforts to get an auction between Monaco, Manchester United, Bayern Munich and Barcelona failed. Manchester United would certainly like Cuadrado, but it would have to be "at the right price". He remains of interest to Chelsea and they have scheduled talks with his agent, but they too will want to avoid an auction and the price they have in mind is far from that being asked by Fiorentina. He has not been playing particularly well and Fiorentina would likely consider a January sale if they can sign a replacement - and if they can get a decent price.}


1.) 21 Jan 2015 20:57:27
Thanks for your quick response! Very insightful


 

 

 

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22 Jan 2017 13:03:45
Forst of all, a huge well done to Rooney, quite the achievement and sometimes not the credit deserved these days, with that said. have any clubs showed any interest in taking Rooney, hea far from firat choice now and has a substantial wage bill, leaving on a high note may be a good option for him

Guy

1.) 22 Jan 2017 14:53:21
he might do a scholes giggs .
just keep going playing a lesser role as he gets older


2.) 22 Jan 2017 15:14:08
I don't see that myself. Rooney typically needs to be a starter, he loses sharpness far too quickly if he isn't playing regularly.

If he isn't first choice next season (which I doubt he will be), then he will move on if he intends to play to the best of his ability. Just depends how much he wants to rot on the bench and pick up his hefty pay packet, no way will he get a new contract imo.

He looked really sharp a few weeks ago, but Jose clearly doesn't see him as a regular starter anymore - sold/ let go in the summer or even before now the record has gone is my guess.


3.) 22 Jan 2017 15:20:48
rot on the bench
or continue to be a part of a squad that he has played for, for the last 13 year?


4.) 22 Jan 2017 15:21:07
he might be happy playing for united


5.) 22 Jan 2017 15:35:02
Yes rot on the bench.

It's his call, but I don't think he is very effective when not fully match fit and he gets match fit only by playing regularly. I'm sure he is happy playing at United, but it's a competitive environment and I would like the very best players given games, rather than sentiment being a driving force.

Do you think he is going to be a starter next season? Do you think he plays better coming off the bench or from the start? Do you think his best is good enough now to warrant his pay or even a new contract?


6.) 22 Jan 2017 15:35:02
Yes rot on the bench.

It's his call, but I don't think he is very effective when not fully match fit and he gets match fit only by playing regularly. I'm sure he is happy playing at United, but it's a competitive environment and I would like the very best players given games, rather than sentiment being a driving force.

Do you think he is going to be a starter next season? Do you think he plays better coming off the bench or from the start? Do you think his best is good enough now to warrant his pay or even a new contract?


7.) 22 Jan 2017 16:02:05
the money brand rooney makes for united prob covers his contract
he is not a starter this season like mata and co who imo aren't rotting on the bench .
can he be effective of the bench he got us a point yesterday .
as players get older there roles in a squad change. giggs scholes etc

rot on the bench or part of a squad?
spurs is the only game when fit he hasn't played .


8.) 22 Jan 2017 16:20:38
You are clutching at straws and you are wrong about the Spurs part. There have been numerous games this season where Rooney has been on the bench.

Didn't think it would take you long to pull the goal out the bag to justify Rooney staying with us until he is drawing his pension. You realise it was a freekick, Stuart Pearce could probably still bang in free kicks now?


9.) 22 Jan 2017 16:32:03
Smart thing would be to sell him and free up wages I think.


10.) 22 Jan 2017 16:39:46
its a squad game beast, as players get older there role change, the spurs game is the only time he has been on the bench and not come on.

is mata rotting on the bench rashford martial? or is a squad game?
is every player who starts on the bench rotting?

it was a free kick? so what most player miss freekicks even pearce.

the problem is you say he can't effect games from the bench but he did . only yesterday your opinion is never backed up by facts


11.) 22 Jan 2017 16:43:15
angle ar we skint, struggling for cash?


12.) 22 Jan 2017 16:39:46
its a squad game beast, as players get older there role change, the spurs game is the only time he has been on the bench and not come on.

is mata rotting on the bench rashford martial? or is a squad game?
is every player who starts on the bench rotting?

it was a free kick? so what most player miss freekicks even pearce.

the problem is you say he can't effect games from the bench but he did . only yesterday your opinion is never backed up by facts


13.) 22 Jan 2017 16:43:15
angle ar we skint, struggling for cash?


 

 

07 Dec 2016 13:57:46
Hello, a lot has been made regarding signings at United, but could any of the ed's provide information on out goings at the club with possible suitors?

Guy

{Ed002's Note - When I get time to do the sharkopod.}


1.) 07 Dec 2016 16:09:18
Thanks Ed, looking forward to it.


 

 

29 Jun 2016 21:36:18
I'm currently working in Germany, and its being reported over here that German bookies Bwin have slashed there odds of manu signing Draxler from 11/ 1 - 3/ 1 overnight due to a significant number of bets/ money being placed on the transfer last night. probably nothing but thougt i'd share.

Guy

 

 

12 May 2016 13:38:31
do any of the Ed's actually know what Mourinho's plans are. All we have to go by is the rags which provide very little accurate information?

Guy

{Ed004's Note - He isn't even garunteed the job not sure anyone knows what his plans are}


1.) 13 May 2016 09:23:31
I think he will be our next manager and the deal was done some time ago.


2.) 13 May 2016 10:52:02
X files, can you enlighten us how you think the deal was done a while ago?

I believe Jose will come but I don't think Man Utd made any 'deal' with him ages ago. I'm sure most of the eds have alluded to that.


3.) 13 May 2016 11:31:56
Jose stated he didn't want to come in mid season. He has since declined offers from Roma PSG and Real Madrid. Have you ever known him to be this quite in all the time he has been a manager. The reason for this could well be a deal which was signed in January. The bookies very rarely get things wrong (Leicester) and they have had him as our next boss since the day after he was sacked by Chelski . It is going to happen shortly (10th June) 😆😆.


4.) 13 May 2016 12:24:46
If a deal was signed in January, wouldn't it have been made known publicly to shareholders?

And the bookies get it wrong a lot. They simply don't care about being right or wrong, they only want to ensure that they make money. He is only favourite because punters have put a lot of money on him.


5.) 13 May 2016 14:53:09
Do people really think that jose and mendes have not been in contact with woody and vice versa and both don't know the others plans

Why would a manager with the rep of jose still be out of work .
I would be amazed if he didn't know what his next job was going to be.


6.) 13 May 2016 15:07:23
I doubt shareholders have a "right" to know about managerial appointments ahead of time. IF Mourinho was joining the board in some capacity then maybe that is different.

IF he has joined then we should be a force next year, 6 months of total preparation - deals will be done and waiting to be announced. We'll be a real force next year once we get rid of this has-been.


7.) 13 May 2016 16:19:59
Beast I think this has already been spoken about. Look it up. If United have had a contract signed by Mourinho it 'has' to be declared to the shareholders. That is but a fact.

Maybe one of the eds can correct us on that.


 

 

06 Jan 2016 14:00:41
Hi ed, you said not long ago manutd would bid for anderson, but i was wondering if you could give us a break down of how a transfer works for most clubs and where utd are in the process.

Guy

{Ed002's Note - Clubs will typically informally ask an agent (a) if the player is going to be available, and (b) would the player consider a move to the club. There may be some broad discussion on the sort of deal that would be offered. If the answer is yes, it is then necessary for the club to approach the player's club to ask if they would be willing to sell and if they would grant permission to speak to a player's agent and possibly even the player about actually making a move. This will typically involve either broadly (through an offer) or actually agreeing a fee and responsibility for any significant costs (agents fees etc.). Once this has happened the club will be able to speak to the player's agent and perhaps the player himself to look at the package that will be involved. Many players are looked at and discussed at a high-level with agents and clubs; a subset of those have an offer placed; a subset of those involve discussions with the player's club; a subset of those involve discussions over terms, and; a subset of those go ahead.

In respect of Anhe club are in a position to submit a bid to Lazio.}


1.) 06 Jan 2016 16:20:30
Thanks for that ed, I did not realise that the club require permission to speak with a players agent formally from the players club, do agents not approach potential new clubs for their clients without the permission of their existing club if they are trying to engineer a move for that client?

{Ed002's Note - No club will want formal discussions about the details of a move of any of their players to happen behind there back.}


2.) 06 Jan 2016 16:26:55
That makes perfect sense thanks ed002.


 

 

 

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31 Jul 2016 10:59:19
Side note schweingsteiger doesn't mean pig commander - its more pig farmer.

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05 Jul 2016 20:12:26
not too sure why some posters are getting abit arsey. this is a rumours site, it's only because the Ed's are insightful that they get a lot of questions, if the Ed's decide to step away for a while then that's fair enough, it can go back to being a rumours site, so many people get crap on here, you Guy's come on here to see if there are any new questions or leaks etc. and then condemn people when they ask relevant questions. It's people who are rude or disrespectful to other posters that apathy should be showed to.

Anyway, that aside thanks for the reply Ed002.

Guy

 

 

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02 Jul 2016 22:52:15
Ronnie is this you?

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08 May 2016 19:38:17
Whatever the football is like Utd are in transition, win our last 2 games and we achieve CL with the FA cup as the cherry on the cake, obviously with the way we play its a big if, but surely anyone would class that as a sucess.

Guy

 

 

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10 Jan 2016 18:38:05
Best response from ed yet.

Guy

 

 

 

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19 Dec 2016 07:47:53
What about martial, playing wing now but definitely a forward jn the making and equally a very young man.

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17 Nov 2016 12:20:33
Here is the thing, there are always going to be 'trolls' on any site like this it's the internet! it's a shame a small minority have to be so confrontational. At the end of the day the Ed's give us prompt and informative responses, if you disagree that's fine but have some respect!

Guy