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11 Jun 2018 16:25:29
If the media are to be believed Max philippe is interested in joining utd and would cost 40m euros. If it is true I would move Shaw on. Max is young, and was the best lb in the bundesleague last year.

The second spurious article I have seen suggests Jose would like to purchase Mbappe. I don't see it my self, but it would make sense as he can play as a RW or a back up striker. How about martial to PSG with Mbappe coming the other way?


1.) 11 Jun 2018 16:58:03
every time we buy the best player in that league for that particular position it goes tits up.


2.) 11 Jun 2018 17:16:59
the last players we bought who were considered the best in their leagues were of Ruud Vanistelroy, Jaap Stam, Andy Cole, Rio Ferdinand. Since then we have focused on potential such as Rooney, ronaldo, Evra, Vidic, deGea.

Out of the players above considered amongst the best in their league, which one was not a success?

The last player considered to be the best in his league (the bundesleague) in his position to come to the EPL was KDB and he has not done too badly. I promise you this max Phillippe will be a success with whoever signs him and I would rather it was us.


3.) 11 Jun 2018 17:18:36
I think Max has the potential to be a good signing.
Good left foot and can cross a ball! Ed 002 mentioned him as an outside chance a month or so ago.


4.) 11 Jun 2018 17:27:18
Bolger meant Kagawa and Mhiki.


5.) 11 Jun 2018 17:34:20
i was more speaking about the German league we've not had much luck.

but I've never seen him play so can't make a judgement on him.

{Ed002's Note - Nor can any of you get his name right.}


6.) 11 Jun 2018 17:20:34
Would any of the Ed’s care to provide their take on max’s Potential?

{Ed004's Note - I have never seen him play}


7.) 11 Jun 2018 19:28:26
Good player but Not the best left back in the German league. Jonas Hector was the stand out left back over the past season. He’s brilliant.


8.) 12 Jun 2018 00:12:45
Max is a great crosser of the ball with 12 assists last season. Lukaku would thrive of his service. Would be happy if we looked at him.


 

 

06 Apr 2018 11:13:10
So Madrid are interested in Martial, Pogba and surprise surprise DeGea.

I would actually consider selling them Pogba. If they want rid of Kroos then yes please, but it will Kroos and Varane for Pogba. It would be nice to be able to pull their pants down for a change. If Mbappe is worth £160m after 1 decent season I would suggest Pogba is worth as much if not more. The same goes for Martial. Mbappe has only done it in league 1 (pub league) .

I would try and replace Pogba with SMS. Pogba is clearly a naturally more gifted player, but SMS just seems to have a much better work ethic.

With SMS and Kroos in midfield with Matic, that would be a balanced midfield. Kroos might actually mean we can take a decent corner.

If we were to sell martial, I would only do so with a buy back clause at a reasonable price. So if Jose leaves and we get a more progressive attacking manager in we have an option to get the lad back.


1.) 06 Apr 2018 11:55:02
You make it sound likes its as easy as swapping football stickers.


2.) 06 Apr 2018 12:34:50
I don’t think it is as easy as swapping stickers, but if they want something we have why not ask for what we want. Or should we just bend over and say sure, take what you want.

Pogba is young, skill full and marketable and we all know how much Madrid like a galactic o.

They did not mind messing us around over moratta last summer. Setting a price then moving the goal posts. Ultimately that worked out as we got Lukaku.


3.) 06 Apr 2018 14:52:04
pogba worth more than 160 mil after 2 lame seasons? lol he doesn't get picked in front of mctominay.


4.) 06 Apr 2018 15:04:33
Oh look another Liverpool fan who has got lost and found their way onto the United page. I don’t think any footballer is worth £160m, but the market dictates the price.

Nothing worth commenting on on your own page. I thought you would all be patting yourself on the back stating that next year will be your year.

Until a big club comes and takes your best player a la coutinho. Salad to Madrid or Barcelona anybody?

On that point pogba is worth much more than coutinho, so coutinho £140m pogba £.

My point being if Mbappe is worth £160m in the current market after 1 season surely Paul Pogba is at least worth the same money at much more than coutinho.


5.) 06 Apr 2018 15:06:12
Jesus if they offered 160 million for Pogba I would drive him to Madrid.


6.) 06 Apr 2018 15:07:29
Oh wow Swishcleaner, you took the time to set up a troll account. Liverpool fan with no comments made before today. I feel bad for you.


7.) 06 Apr 2018 15:24:51
No first time here, same account as all the rumours sites on here. I was just poiting out the ridiculous statement. Fees are decided by the needs of a team generally and if anyone can honestly say they think pogbas value has almost doubled based on what other players sold for with arguably greater potential they are insane. I don’t care that he plays for man utd. It’s irrelevant . If anything his value had gone down. He was over priced to start with and shown nothing on the last 2 years to say any different.


8.) 06 Apr 2018 16:07:00
Fee's are dictated by a teams needs but he was overpriced, a bit contradictory. I agree we over paid. But based on Neymar, Mbappe, VvD etc we would be expecting 100 plus.


9.) 06 Apr 2018 16:19:20
So we would swap pogba a player most class as lazy. For kroos another player a lot class as lazy without the pace of pogba yes he can pass well. But the need for pace and power in midfield was shown by liverpool on wednesday night. Half our problem is players wandering around we don't need more of the same.


10.) 06 Apr 2018 17:21:04
I agree to a point W16wes hence I suggested SMS for the drive and penetration. Kroos is there for corners and pin point passing which will hopefully pick out lukaku and rashford/ Martial/ Sanchez / new RW movement.

As I said no player is really worth £160m. Prices are dictated by the market and as stated above the pogba, Neymar, Mbappe, coutinho, vvd moves show the market prices have inflated further. Hence pogba price has gone up. Let’s see what he does at the World Cup. I suspect given his last performance for France he will do well. Let’s see what that does for his price.


11.) 06 Apr 2018 19:15:02
Got not got-need -a shiny for a shiny😲😲.


 

 

09 Jan 2018 14:31:59
Not sure how reliable, but canal+ are reporting Lucas Moura has agreed to join utd with the clubs working on the fee.

BS. I have no idea. Time will tell.


1.) 09 Jan 2018 15:33:27
Heard the same red glory reporting we have had a bid of 17.5 mil accepted. like u don't no if it's bs or not.


2.) 09 Jan 2018 15:33:50
Surely he can’t agree to join if we haven’t agreed a fee?


3.) 09 Jan 2018 16:24:46
That's fee doesn't quite sound right.

A question for the Ed's or anyone else who knows.

Lucas Moura was named in PSG's UCL squad, but hasn't played a single minute. If he was to move to another team in the UCL could he play for them in the UCL this season or not?


4.) 09 Jan 2018 17:19:11
Shappy.

A substitute player who has not been fielded is entitled to play for another club competing in the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League in the course of the same season.


5.) 09 Jan 2018 17:57:21
Cheers OxfordDevil, I thought that would probably be the case as it is with domestic cups. However I wasn't sure as UEFA and the FA's rules don't always align.

If he is able to play in all competitions potentially signing him makes more sense especially for the reported 17.5m.

For me Lucas Moura reminds me of Nani, very quick with a few tricks up his sleeve. On his day totally unplayable. However, he also seems to lack the consistency to make the jump from very good player to world class just like Nani.


6.) 09 Jan 2018 21:45:07
Caolan, sometimes the fee is the last thing to be agreed upon.


7.) 10 Jan 2018 00:08:59
I really hope this is a sick joke Moura nowhere near good enough we need starters not squad players.


8.) 10 Jan 2018 03:57:32
Shappy,
That post reminded me of something I was thinking about recently. The most skilled player we’ve ever had is Nani. Hear me out. I’m not saying he’s the best, obviously, bc he had feet of magic and a head of rocks but in terms of technical skill, flair and simple unplayability when having one of his rare top performances, not even Ronaldo was on his level. There’s a reason his top ten goals is astounding while he was always the most frustrating player in the squad. I’d love to hear feedback, but I think it’s a fair statement. If the poor guy could hit a decent cross into the box or find the right pass at the right moment he could have been incredible. But it always just seemed like his feet were Champions League and his head was nonleague. Or worse.


9.) 10 Jan 2018 08:45:11
Nani is not the most skilled player ever to play for Manchester United nor is he in the top 10 most skilled player to ever play for Manchester United.


10.) 10 Jan 2018 08:55:39
All knowing Ken who is in United top 10 skilful players? If Nani doesn’t make the list he would come very close. Don’t let your favouritism misguide you, Nani was very skilful but did not end up being the player United had hoped. Then again he was no Depay.


11.) 10 Jan 2018 09:02:47
I still liked Nani though. We don’t have anyone who is a bag of tricks.
If Jose wants Moura and sees something in him let’s get it done. We are woefully short on the right side and all our attacks come down the left or funnel through the middle. At least this way we might stretch our opponents little more and give teams something more to worry about. Lukaku has shown what he can do if we get good crosses into the box!


12.) 10 Jan 2018 09:11:49
I'd take Moura over Bernardo Silva.


13.) 10 Jan 2018 09:40:18
I would place Nani in the top ten most skilful players to have played for United in my life time at least. I still fondly remember him making mugs of half the Arsenal team by juggling the ball. It’s even more impressive when you consider he was up against professionals at the top of their game not 48 year old Sunday league old hacks.
When he was on form he was unplayable, the speed in which he changed directions left players in knots.
Unfortunately the days he was on top form were few and far between. He had two seasons where he looked like he was going to kick on, then he got injured and before he could fully recover and get up to speed Sir Alex retired and Moyes took over. Moyes was never going to be a fan of Nani and he slumped into obscurity. A sad end for a player with so much talent.


14.) 10 Jan 2018 10:18:45
Nani best ever? George Best, Bobby Charlton, Ryan Giggs, Ronnie, Big Duncan Edwards all better and it took five seconds to name just those five.


15.) 10 Jan 2018 11:10:31
hendonred, the discussion was about "most skilled", not "best". They are two very different things, and Nani was more skilled than any of those 5, although I think most would agree they were all better players than him.

I'm not sure he was our most skillful player, but if not, he was certainly close. Absolute magic to watch on his best days, few and far between though they were.

While I'd like it to be someone a bit more consistent, we could do with having a player who can pull that kind of trickery.


16.) 10 Jan 2018 11:24:16
I have to disagree. I don't think that Nani could lace George Best's boots.


17.) 10 Jan 2018 12:28:55
Nani more skilful than best. Check that one quick Thorne. That's outrageous.


18.) 10 Jan 2018 12:38:53
Ha ha . give your head a wobble . Nani and George Best were not even in the same orbit . Did you ever see Best play?

Daftest thing ever written on here.


19.) 10 Jan 2018 12:50:49
I don't think Nani is more skillful than Best. Very few in the history of football could rival Best.

However I said Nani was definitely in the top ten most skillful players in my life time, and I stand by that.

There is a difference between skillful and being the best. The best perform week in week out and they achieve great things. For example Forlan was a more skillful players than van Nistelrooy, RVN however achieved far more. Phil Neville was more skillful than Gary Neville. It isn't about what they achieved but how much talent and skill they had.

For me in my life time Scholes, Ronaldo Giggs and possibly Pogba are the ones who have the same or greater natural talent than Nani. If I was old enough to remember Best during his playing days then he would be there obviously as well, as would Charlton and Edwards.

Its such a shame Nani never fulfilled his potential.


20.) 10 Jan 2018 15:26:53
I've seen it reported that the fee is closer to 35mil, don't know if that's in Euros or pounds though. Would seem a little closer to his value in this market.

If we're getting a player from PSG, I'd much prefer Draxler mind.


21.) 10 Jan 2018 16:58:58
You've all forgotten that Bebe had mad skills.


22.) 10 Jan 2018 18:34:41
Define skill maze?
Is passing a skill? Is running a skill? Is positional awareness a skill? Is tavkeling a skill?

I think all the above are skills.

Do you lack the intelligence to understand that or are you just talking stepovers?

As for someone posting nani was more skilful than best that is just displaying complete ignorance.


23.) 10 Jan 2018 18:50:26
12days,

Not much difference between euros and pounds anymore mate so wouldn’t matter.


24.) 10 Jan 2018 19:01:31
There is a fellow that doea ball juggling outside the Trafford centre every Saturday . Great skills sign him up Shappy.
Consistency is a skill. Maybe nani is in the top 10 most inconsistent players at united ever.


25.) 10 Jan 2018 21:48:00
This is in my most ridiculous top 10 threads ever!


 

 

06 Jan 2018 23:22:09
Good evening Ed's, if you have the time, is there any validity to the reported Man Utd interest in Fred from Shaktar Donetsk?

Thank you in advance for any response.

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}


1.) 08 Jan 2018 17:17:37
We don't need him, we already have Fred the red. lol.


 

 

30 Jul 2016 20:36:12
Hi Ed's,
Do any of you know if media reports that Januzaj has asked to leave the club permanently after being told he could go out on loan are true?

Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - Januzaj has been available for a permanent transfer since last season. The club want him out due to attitude issues.}


1.) 02 Aug 2016 07:33:35
I have never seen anything great in Januzaj. Apart from a couple of goals and some decent display of skills, he has not performed well enough to get more chances. He may have potential but I think he doesn't deserve to be given more time here. That's my opinion on Adnan.


2.) 02 Aug 2016 08:06:11
Do you know the actual issues Ed?

{Ed001's Note - doesn't work hard enough on or off the pitch. One of those youngsters who thinks he has made it and so wants to enjoy the riches.}


3.) 02 Aug 2016 08:09:01
He's a young lad given too much too soon. One day he will realise but let's hope it's not too late. Elite sportsmen make it to the top not only because of their skill, but also their mental strength. Adnan clearly lacks the latter which is a real shame.


4.) 02 Aug 2016 08:39:38
It might be another PP situation for Adnan where he needs to go elsewhere and knuckledown in order to realise his potential. I fear the same for Memphis. Driving around the city centre in a Rolls Royce and parking wherever he wants hardly relates to the people of Manchester.


5.) 02 Aug 2016 09:20:20
I think it all started to go downhill when he was touted as the "saviour" of United by the media during the Moyes wilderness years and it all went to his head.

Agree about Memohis also - has echoes of Zaha.


6.) 02 Aug 2016 09:46:53
I remember on the Moyes pre season tour seeing Januzaj play 3-4 supberb passes from central midfield, then in Rio s testimonial a few weeks later his run down the right all the way into the area from inside his own half and thinking this kid could really be special - shame he seems to have lost his way.

I honestly thought Jose could bring out the best in him but it seems his days are numbered.


7.) 02 Aug 2016 18:44:40
Good evening ed, s. Are you aware if we have a back up plan, Should the Pogba deal not go ahead.
Cheers.

{Ed004's Note - I think Matuidi and Gomes were seen as alternatives to Pogba this summer}


 

 

 

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10 Aug 2018 08:30:33
Oh well another summer of media lies and being linked to every player under the sun over. I must say I am disappointed Sandro was not signed.
In terms of the manager, I hope he buckled down and gets the best out of what we have, but based on his past behaviour I suspect he will be even grumpier than before and throw a few more players under the bus. Let's not forget we are not the only club to have an awful window, spurs had a stinker as well. Let's see how potchetino reacts compared to Jose.
I suspect with a little more grace. I wouldn't mind seeing potch being brought in to replace Jose. I know many on here will say he has not won anything, but he has improved a young spurs squad moved them up the table whilst operating on a small budget and with a restrictive wage structure. I think he would do wonders with our youth whilst also playing the United way and being able to attract top players when required.
As the saying goes a leopard can't change his spots and Jose's history suggests a melt down by xmas, let's hope the board put a bit more thought into the clubs direction of travel and that we have a manager who fits those ideals lined up. The current approach is not working!


 

 

07 Aug 2018 14:08:30
Hey Barcelona, if Coutinho is worth £140m, then Pogba is worth £200m+, and as jerry Macguire said "SHOW ME THE MONEY".

It's a no for now, but come back in January if you are serious. If your short of cash we can settle on Dembele + £100m. Have a nice day.


1.) 07 Aug 2018 14:58:26
Barca offered a bit of cash and Mina and Gomes for Pogba. If we are stupid enough to take them on, then woodward and mourinho have to be sacked. Gomes is utter tripe.


2.) 07 Aug 2018 15:32:20
Coutinho is in a different class to Pogba.


3.) 07 Aug 2018 16:48:36
Really Seosahm,

How many World Cups has he won?

Just saying.

{Ed001's Note - ah the idiots reply! Bringing up trophies in a team sport to try and suggest one player is better than another. Only the refuge of those without a bloody clue. I suppose that means Pogba must be better than Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo and George Best by this idiotic way of thinking...}


4.) 07 Aug 2018 17:12:18
That's a ridiculous way to judge a player.


5.) 07 Aug 2018 17:14:31
It's certainly comparing apples with oranges in any case. Coutinho for me has shown signs of and demonstrated true class on at least a semi-consistent to consistent basis. Pogba simply has not, he still may however.


6.) 07 Aug 2018 17:22:29
Over from the Liverpool page, would have Coutinho over Pogba all day long. I am not biased as I can say you guys have the best keeper in the world in De Gea, to me at times he doesn't seem human. Pogba situation as I see it is that if he wants to leave let him go, you only got to look at us to see what keeping hold of an unhappy player leads to (Coutinho) .


7.) 07 Aug 2018 17:35:12
Totally agree alonso, don't think your being biased at all. he does not want to be here, never did. I would go as far as to say coutinho gave more of a crap about your club than Pogba does ours.
Pogba only cares about self promotion, a shame, he will come good at some stage I think, it will just not be until he reaches the age of 28 or so.


8.) 07 Aug 2018 17:35:12
Totally agree alonso, don't think your being biased at all. he does not want to be here, never did. I would go as far as to say coutinho gave more of a crap about your club than Pogba does ours.
Pogba only cares about self promotion, a shame, he will come good at some stage I think, it will just not be until he reaches the age of 28 or so.


 

 

22 Jul 2018 13:22:22
Sorry clicked submit before I finished. I would rather we did not sign another player if it meant we addressed the current issue of being directionless and wasting money.

Let's stop with the square pegs in round holes, the getting rid of potential for the last hoorays brigade. As much as it pains me let's see some strategy, a game plan where we can see the deficiencies being addressed. If that means a couple of seasons of not buying a star because we are developing a player through game time so be it. It has got to be better than what we are doing now.

Rant over. Have a good day.


 

 

22 Jul 2018 13:17:51
I have seen lots of comments regarding us being the 2nd best team last season and yes over the season we did finish second, but we seemed to loose momentum in the closing part of the season, whereas the like of Liverpool seemed to finish stronger. Anybody who thinks Liverpool won't be better next season is deluded. They finished in 4th with a terrible goal keeper, crap cb and average midfield. They have addressed most of those issues. If they get a decent cb they will be challenging.

We on the other hand have not addressed our weaknesses. People keep saying we had a good defence last season, but we did not. We had a good goals conceded stat, but we had an awful shots against stat. If we karius or Mignolet in goal we would have finished in the bottom half (been at least 20 points worse off) . And that is Jose's defensive football. Our squad and club has been criminally mismanaged for at least 10 years. Let's not forget that the squad has been deteriorating since ronaldo and tevez left.

Valencia was not an adequate replacement, what was bebe all about. Rio and vidic's replacements should have been in place before they left and don't say jones and smalling were there. We knew they could not stay fit and were not good enough then. Why did we not challenge spurs when they bought Alderweireld from Southampton? We have spent so much money for so little return. It is quite frightening.

I know people say it is because ed Woodward is a businessman and not a football man, but it is more than that. Business men have plans, short, medium and long term plans. They don't waste resources and they value their assets/ staff, at least the good ones do. They also protect their brand, we on the other hand seem to be ignoring all of that. It is almost like Jose and ed are plants to destroy the club.

We claim to be one of the biggest clubs in the world, we'll it is time that we started acting like one instead of small time club with a big cheque book.


1.) 22 Jul 2018 14:12:37
Joese doesn't do the buying it is Ed and his crew. I also agree with most of your post in regards to no planning after we screwed up with firing Van Gaal.


2.) 22 Jul 2018 15:33:29
Singh - do you mean 'hiring' LVG? I hope so.


3.) 22 Jul 2018 17:07:08
What i meant was we had a plan in place to hire Allegri and then had to ditch out all the hardwork and start again by hiring Mourinho.


 

 

01 Jul 2018 14:17:09
Giggs did not have the credentials or experience to manage the club, but I wish the club had listened to him regarding signing. Giggs recommended that the club sign Gabriel Jesus and killian Mbappe. Aledgedly both could have been signed for under £5m. But why bother with that when you can sign Memphis, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger etc instead for massive fees and massive wages.

Hopefully he does well with wales then gets some club football management under his belt and comes home. At least he knows what playing for Utd means and what playing the utd way means.

I would rather we stopped throwing good money after bad just to sign big name players who don't really want to be at the club. Di Maria anybody? Played by Ramos, griezmann, bale, ronaldo and anybody else that needs a renewal.

It's funny the club bangs on about history, tradition etc but ignores a man who knows a thing or two about football, the club and winning things. Step up Sir Bobby. He said Jose was not right for the club and was right. I would love to hear Sir Alex's view of Jose continually throwing his players under the bus. Keep it behind closed doors Jose. Haven't you lost enough dressing rooms over the years.

I hope Jose proves me wrong, but I put a lot of credence in Ed002's info and views. He said LVG would end badly and was right, he said it was too early for Memphis and was right and he said Jose was a bad fit and did not really want to be here. I suspect he is right here to. I hope for humble pie, but suspect that I will end up with another season of defensive football and players been dissed by their own manager.


1.) 01 Jul 2018 15:20:38
Id like to see giggs ultimately get the job just to shut up the rest of the class of 92 an stop them constantly sniping at the club. Wonder how much they'd criticise giggs when it inevitably goes pear shaped.


2.) 01 Jul 2018 15:55:18
Great for kylian mbappe and gabriel jesus careers that we didn't sign them. They will develop and become better players at their current clubs than they ever would at old trafford at the moment.

Imagine kylian mbappe having a really good season up until january then we signed mario mandzukic/ marko arnautovic to completely stunt his progression like we did with sanchez to martial.

Tbh If they didn't run around like headless chickens for 90 mins most people on here would call them lazy like they do with martial.


3.) 01 Jul 2018 16:09:51
Got to agree with everything you have said DSG.


4.) 01 Jul 2018 16:09:55
Giggs can't be trusted I'm afraid.


5.) 01 Jul 2018 14:28:45
Ed002 is the best looking most knowledgable person I have ever come across in football. Not only does he have great insight to football clubs, but has incredible foresight when it comes to how things will go down.

It's too rare a thing, but we should be touching ed002 gently at every chance. This site is at its best when that knowledge is shared.

Good time to say thanks given the above post.


6.) 01 Jul 2018 17:36:00
Only with your wife or girlfriend beast.


7.) 01 Jul 2018 17:24:07
Do we have to touch him, can we not just ask polite questions?


8.) 01 Jul 2018 17:39:03
Don’t forget is excellent yet eclectic taste in music.


9.) 01 Jul 2018 18:10:48
Don’t understand the clamour for Giggs. Don’t think he is going to make a particularly good manager. I’m all for promoting from within but only if that person has the ability to do so.

DSG - spot on about mbappe and Jesus.


10.) 01 Jul 2018 18:24:39
Giggs was spouting bs, before mbappe even made it to the Monaco team city offered 40mn for him and were rejected, why would they agree to sell for 5mn and then reject a 40mn bid.


11.) 01 Jul 2018 18:41:22
To be fair, Park, 'clamour' might be a bit strong, mate.


12.) 01 Jul 2018 22:28:31
Sorry, I didn't realise the airwaves were full of people calling for Giggs as manager. I must have missed the mass rallies as well. I stand corrected, there is a clamour.


13.) 01 Jul 2018 23:52:00
Stevie, clamour perhaps is a tad dramatic I agree. But there are still calls for him to be manager, especially from the class of 92. Think it’s ridiculous tbh. Needed to drop into the championship and earn his stripes. Loved him as a player but it’s a no from me as a manager. Happy to be proved wrong though.


14.) 02 Jul 2018 11:32:29
I've never seen the need for the whole, drop into the championship and earn your stripes, mate. Working with youth teams at the club, yes, as you can see how it's benefited Southgate working with the current crop of England players since they were in the u21s. But in reality, what use is managing a team in a lower league in terms of preparing you for a job at a major club? It's like day and night. When you think of what Giggs, only as an example, must have learnt in all his years at Utd under Fergie. I think earning his crust in the u21s would be more beneficial, so he's still around the club for a start - being groomed, if you like. If he can't get the job after working with the underage group and going through an interview process, then fair enough, but these guys aren't miracle workers. They're not necessarily going to be able to go to Rochdale, and start winning things, for all sorts of possible reasons, but would that really mean they wouldn't succeed at a club with so many more advantages?


15.) 02 Jul 2018 12:51:14
Would anyone consider Southgate?


16.) 02 Jul 2018 13:10:15
International management is completely different gravy to club football. Southgate didn’t particularly set the work alight whilst at middlesborough. He’s done well for england in both the u21s and first team but that doesn’t mean he would be able to take over at any of the top 6 clubs, or even a top 10 premier league club for that matter.

I often think of the two main examples of promoting from within - pep and zidane. Let’s be honest, does anybody truly believe that Giggs would have had a similar impact to those two? We are nowhere near either of those sides in terms of squad quality. Add to the fact we have a more competitive league and then you have a huge task on your hands. Handling egos, pressure from fans to play the United way and also the negativity from the press all come with the United job. Yes Giggs has watched and perhaps learnt from sir alex, but just because you watch somebody do something doesn’t mean you can do it. It takes practice and experience to perfect it. You learn from your failings and become better for it. Giggs dropping down to a smaller club of course is different to united. But he will learn so much more and be far more equipped to lead united that way than if he was given the job straightaway.

I agree that Giggs understands and loves the club. They are two massive positives. Add that he would probably have the respect of the players. But it’s far too much of a risk to make. I hope he has a good career but it is important for me that a manager has earned his stripes. I do admire both Lampard and Gerrard for stepping out their comfort zones and really testing themselves. Their reputations have most definitely helped in securing those roles. But if they are successful they will be much more equipped to takeover at Liverpool or Chelsea in the future if those opportunities arise.

{Ed007's Note - Come on, Southgate has masterminded stunning victories against Tunisia and Panama, after that and grabbing an injury time draw against minnows Scotland winning the PL and CL for Utd would be a doddle for him.}


 

 

 

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07 Aug 2018 14:11:55
I don't want to go anywhere near Boateng, he is useless and just as injury prone as jones, Rojo and even Bailly.

We need a leader with experience, but they need to be robust/ able to stay fit.


 

 

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07 Aug 2018 14:10:06
Yes please. If only Ed could pull that off.


 

 

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11 Jun 2018 17:20:34
Would any of the Ed’s care to provide their take on max’s Potential?

{Ed004's Note - I have never seen him play}


 

 

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11 Jun 2018 17:16:59
the last players we bought who were considered the best in their leagues were of Ruud Vanistelroy, Jaap Stam, Andy Cole, Rio Ferdinand. Since then we have focused on potential such as Rooney, ronaldo, Evra, Vidic, deGea.

Out of the players above considered amongst the best in their league, which one was not a success?

The last player considered to be the best in his league (the bundesleague) in his position to come to the EPL was KDB and he has not done too badly. I promise you this max Phillippe will be a success with whoever signs him and I would rather it was us.


 

 

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10 Apr 2018 18:40:48
Need to remember he is still young and developing. To maximise his potential he needs to play. I can’t blame the lad for looking elsewhere. The club took his number off him after he was trying to build a brand, we then bought Sanchez and moved him from his favoured position to the right. We then did not give him a run of games to get use to being on the right and then dropped him.

It does not demonstrate that he is valued. More gives the impression of you are here to make up the numbers and will be moved around or messed around as soon as we sign somebody else. I would be gutted if he left.


 

 

 

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19 Aug 2018 23:22:42
Sorry jred but you are wrong, we did not have the second best defensive record in the league. We had the best goal keeper in the league/ world. Our defence was awful, the shots conceded states were amongst the worst in the league. Our defence has been a joke since Rio, Vidic and uncle Pat left and to be honest they should’ve have been replaced a season before they left as they declined massively in their last season. Without Dave the save we would be bottom half.

The thing that worries me most is that our attack is horrible as well. The movement is non existent. There are no clever runs, no switching of positions, no darting from font post to back post. We just run in straight lines and wonder why the opposition defence find us so predictable.

Ironically I think our midfield is ok and would look a lot better if not having to constantly worry about the clowns behind them or having to wait for a run that never comes. Have a good week guys and let’s hope for better even if it never comes.


 

 

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01 Jul 2018 17:39:03
Don’t forget is excellent yet eclectic taste in music.


 

 

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01 Jul 2018 17:36:00
Only with your wife or girlfriend beast.


 

 

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01 Jul 2018 16:09:51
Got to agree with everything you have said DSG.


 

 

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25 Jun 2018 20:07:53
Anybody that has not seen the trilogy against mickey ward, then check it out. An absolute slug fest. Such a shame that he was taken so soon. A fighter who knew what it meant to have heart. Great read ed. Will you be doing the rest of his career including his suspicious death/ suicide/ murder?

{Ed001's Note - have you only read the first page mate?}