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09 Jan 2018 14:31:59
Not sure how reliable, but canal+ are reporting Lucas Moura has agreed to join utd with the clubs working on the fee.

BS. I have no idea. Time will tell.


1.) 09 Jan 2018 15:33:27
Heard the same red glory reporting we have had a bid of 17.5 mil accepted. like u don't no if it's bs or not.


2.) 09 Jan 2018 15:33:50
Surely he can’t agree to join if we haven’t agreed a fee?


3.) 09 Jan 2018 16:24:46
That's fee doesn't quite sound right.

A question for the Ed's or anyone else who knows.

Lucas Moura was named in PSG's UCL squad, but hasn't played a single minute. If he was to move to another team in the UCL could he play for them in the UCL this season or not?


4.) 09 Jan 2018 17:19:11
Shappy.

A substitute player who has not been fielded is entitled to play for another club competing in the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League in the course of the same season.


5.) 09 Jan 2018 17:57:21
Cheers OxfordDevil, I thought that would probably be the case as it is with domestic cups. However I wasn't sure as UEFA and the FA's rules don't always align.

If he is able to play in all competitions potentially signing him makes more sense especially for the reported 17.5m.

For me Lucas Moura reminds me of Nani, very quick with a few tricks up his sleeve. On his day totally unplayable. However, he also seems to lack the consistency to make the jump from very good player to world class just like Nani.


6.) 09 Jan 2018 21:45:07
Caolan, sometimes the fee is the last thing to be agreed upon.


7.) 10 Jan 2018 00:08:59
I really hope this is a sick joke Moura nowhere near good enough we need starters not squad players.


8.) 10 Jan 2018 03:57:32
Shappy,
That post reminded me of something I was thinking about recently. The most skilled player we’ve ever had is Nani. Hear me out. I’m not saying he’s the best, obviously, bc he had feet of magic and a head of rocks but in terms of technical skill, flair and simple unplayability when having one of his rare top performances, not even Ronaldo was on his level. There’s a reason his top ten goals is astounding while he was always the most frustrating player in the squad. I’d love to hear feedback, but I think it’s a fair statement. If the poor guy could hit a decent cross into the box or find the right pass at the right moment he could have been incredible. But it always just seemed like his feet were Champions League and his head was nonleague. Or worse.


9.) 10 Jan 2018 08:45:11
Nani is not the most skilled player ever to play for Manchester United nor is he in the top 10 most skilled player to ever play for Manchester United.


10.) 10 Jan 2018 08:55:39
All knowing Ken who is in United top 10 skilful players? If Nani doesn’t make the list he would come very close. Don’t let your favouritism misguide you, Nani was very skilful but did not end up being the player United had hoped. Then again he was no Depay.


11.) 10 Jan 2018 09:02:47
I still liked Nani though. We don’t have anyone who is a bag of tricks.
If Jose wants Moura and sees something in him let’s get it done. We are woefully short on the right side and all our attacks come down the left or funnel through the middle. At least this way we might stretch our opponents little more and give teams something more to worry about. Lukaku has shown what he can do if we get good crosses into the box!


12.) 10 Jan 2018 09:11:49
I'd take Moura over Bernardo Silva.


13.) 10 Jan 2018 09:40:18
I would place Nani in the top ten most skilful players to have played for United in my life time at least. I still fondly remember him making mugs of half the Arsenal team by juggling the ball. It’s even more impressive when you consider he was up against professionals at the top of their game not 48 year old Sunday league old hacks.
When he was on form he was unplayable, the speed in which he changed directions left players in knots.
Unfortunately the days he was on top form were few and far between. He had two seasons where he looked like he was going to kick on, then he got injured and before he could fully recover and get up to speed Sir Alex retired and Moyes took over. Moyes was never going to be a fan of Nani and he slumped into obscurity. A sad end for a player with so much talent.


14.) 10 Jan 2018 10:18:45
Nani best ever? George Best, Bobby Charlton, Ryan Giggs, Ronnie, Big Duncan Edwards all better and it took five seconds to name just those five.


15.) 10 Jan 2018 11:10:31
hendonred, the discussion was about "most skilled", not "best". They are two very different things, and Nani was more skilled than any of those 5, although I think most would agree they were all better players than him.

I'm not sure he was our most skillful player, but if not, he was certainly close. Absolute magic to watch on his best days, few and far between though they were.

While I'd like it to be someone a bit more consistent, we could do with having a player who can pull that kind of trickery.


16.) 10 Jan 2018 11:24:16
I have to disagree. I don't think that Nani could lace George Best's boots.


17.) 10 Jan 2018 12:28:55
Nani more skilful than best. Check that one quick Thorne. That's outrageous.


18.) 10 Jan 2018 12:38:53
Ha ha . give your head a wobble . Nani and George Best were not even in the same orbit . Did you ever see Best play?

Daftest thing ever written on here.


19.) 10 Jan 2018 12:50:49
I don't think Nani is more skillful than Best. Very few in the history of football could rival Best.

However I said Nani was definitely in the top ten most skillful players in my life time, and I stand by that.

There is a difference between skillful and being the best. The best perform week in week out and they achieve great things. For example Forlan was a more skillful players than van Nistelrooy, RVN however achieved far more. Phil Neville was more skillful than Gary Neville. It isn't about what they achieved but how much talent and skill they had.

For me in my life time Scholes, Ronaldo Giggs and possibly Pogba are the ones who have the same or greater natural talent than Nani. If I was old enough to remember Best during his playing days then he would be there obviously as well, as would Charlton and Edwards.

Its such a shame Nani never fulfilled his potential.


20.) 10 Jan 2018 15:26:53
I've seen it reported that the fee is closer to 35mil, don't know if that's in Euros or pounds though. Would seem a little closer to his value in this market.

If we're getting a player from PSG, I'd much prefer Draxler mind.


21.) 10 Jan 2018 16:58:58
You've all forgotten that Bebe had mad skills.


22.) 10 Jan 2018 18:34:41
Define skill maze?
Is passing a skill? Is running a skill? Is positional awareness a skill? Is tavkeling a skill?

I think all the above are skills.

Do you lack the intelligence to understand that or are you just talking stepovers?

As for someone posting nani was more skilful than best that is just displaying complete ignorance.


23.) 10 Jan 2018 18:50:26
12days,

Not much difference between euros and pounds anymore mate so wouldn’t matter.


24.) 10 Jan 2018 19:01:31
There is a fellow that doea ball juggling outside the Trafford centre every Saturday . Great skills sign him up Shappy.
Consistency is a skill. Maybe nani is in the top 10 most inconsistent players at united ever.


25.) 10 Jan 2018 21:48:00
This is in my most ridiculous top 10 threads ever!


 

 

06 Jan 2018 23:22:09
Good evening Ed's, if you have the time, is there any validity to the reported Man Utd interest in Fred from Shaktar Donetsk?

Thank you in advance for any response.

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}


1.) 08 Jan 2018 17:17:37
We don't need him, we already have Fred the red. lol.


 

 

30 Jul 2016 20:36:12
Hi Ed's,
Do any of you know if media reports that Januzaj has asked to leave the club permanently after being told he could go out on loan are true?

Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - Januzaj has been available for a permanent transfer since last season. The club want him out due to attitude issues.}


1.) 02 Aug 2016 07:33:35
I have never seen anything great in Januzaj. Apart from a couple of goals and some decent display of skills, he has not performed well enough to get more chances. He may have potential but I think he doesn't deserve to be given more time here. That's my opinion on Adnan.


2.) 02 Aug 2016 08:06:11
Do you know the actual issues Ed?

{Ed001's Note - doesn't work hard enough on or off the pitch. One of those youngsters who thinks he has made it and so wants to enjoy the riches.}


3.) 02 Aug 2016 08:09:01
He's a young lad given too much too soon. One day he will realise but let's hope it's not too late. Elite sportsmen make it to the top not only because of their skill, but also their mental strength. Adnan clearly lacks the latter which is a real shame.


4.) 02 Aug 2016 08:39:38
It might be another PP situation for Adnan where he needs to go elsewhere and knuckledown in order to realise his potential. I fear the same for Memphis. Driving around the city centre in a Rolls Royce and parking wherever he wants hardly relates to the people of Manchester.


5.) 02 Aug 2016 09:20:20
I think it all started to go downhill when he was touted as the "saviour" of United by the media during the Moyes wilderness years and it all went to his head.

Agree about Memohis also - has echoes of Zaha.


6.) 02 Aug 2016 09:46:53
I remember on the Moyes pre season tour seeing Januzaj play 3-4 supberb passes from central midfield, then in Rio s testimonial a few weeks later his run down the right all the way into the area from inside his own half and thinking this kid could really be special - shame he seems to have lost his way.

I honestly thought Jose could bring out the best in him but it seems his days are numbered.


7.) 02 Aug 2016 18:44:40
Good evening ed, s. Are you aware if we have a back up plan, Should the Pogba deal not go ahead.
Cheers.

{Ed004's Note - I think Matuidi and Gomes were seen as alternatives to Pogba this summer}


 

 

19 May 2016 11:14:00
It is being reported in the Swedish press that Man Utd have bid £21m for young Benfica CB/ DM Victor Lindelof.

Not sure how reliable the info is and have not seen him play, but a new CB who is over 6ft tall with pace and positional sense would be welcome. The lad looks physically imposing which never hurts in the EPL.

A young CB and a more established CB like Varane would be most welcome. Our already tight defence would be even more solid. Just need a RW, mobile dynamic creative MF and an established striker.

I know people have suggested that an established striker would impeed Rashfords
And Marshalls development, but with league games, Europa league games and the two cups I think there are enough games to go round.

I would push hard for mahrez for the right wing and as unrealistic as it is lewandowski and aubamayang (in that order) . Not sure who we need in MF. My first choice was Sanches, as he is the closest thing I have seen to a cross between Edgar David's and Clarence Seedorf. Exactly what we needed, but that ship has sailed.


1.) 19 May 2016 11:50:20
Varane has just turned 23, pretty much ancient!


2.) 19 May 2016 12:18:33
I don't think we need another striker. Martial, Rashford and Rooney are enough IMO. Maybe another young lad?

However we do need someone who can play behind the striker. A striker would push Rashford out of the side and Martial would be shoved back onto the wing.


3.) 19 May 2016 12:25:23
I was thinking the same thing GDS. Lol. Also I thought the reason that 23 year old Varane was considering leaving Real Madrid was because he hasn't been able to establish himself in the starting 11.


4.) 19 May 2016 12:50:09
I'm with you there Huggy76. Defo them four positions are our main concern and if we can fill them with either top class players or top class potential, we'll be okay next year. Personally I would be happy to go with a few PL players, as I think that would take us up the league quicker, so something like Lukaku, Mane, for the ST and RW roles. Then Joao Mario for CM, watched a fair bit of the Portuguese league this year, mainly due to Sanches, but he's stood out too. CB is the only position I'm not too sure who we can get. Stones, Varane would be my picks, however unrealistic, but Lindelof looks a good prospect. Still, Mourinho is our most important signing this summer.


5.) 19 May 2016 14:27:25
Got to love the caustic replies on here. Varane is a more established and more suitable CB than Daily Blind.

He has started 23 league games this season with 3 sub appearances. He also started 6 champions league games and made 1 sub appearance.
He started 21 games last season in the league and made 6 sub appearances. He also started11 champions league games and made 1 sub appearance.

He is also a full international for France. If this is not an upgrade the please enlighten me as to what is.

He is already better than we have and has scope to improve and has potentially 8-10 years left at the top level. It's a no brainier for me.


6.) 19 May 2016 15:29:47
I'm not saying he isn't an upgrade, he clearly is. Just that a young player who isn't first choice for his club can hardly be called "established". I would still put him in the prospect bracket personally.

I think he would be a great signing but I'd also want someone more experienced to come in along side him.


7.) 19 May 2016 16:01:50
I'd say he has had sufficient experience to be considered asmore than a prospect.


8.) 19 May 2016 17:27:24
Fresh, I think to be considered more than a prospect you have to be proven. What has he proven at the highest level? That he can't hold down a first team place yet.

I have every confidence that he will prove himself to be a world class player, but he hasn't yet. Therefore I still see him as a world class prospect.


9.) 19 May 2016 17:39:40
Shappy who would your established 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice CB be? If anybody else cares to answer go for it.

My rational in choosing Varane is that he has longevity on his side. If you sign a 28-30 year old we will be back looking for a CB in a season or two.

I think an established pair al la Rio and vidic is a must. They developed a good understanding with each other and the RB and LB. it leads to more confidence and hopefully frees up the rest of the team to attack and create chances.

Hopefully Dave the save will win a few more golden gloves. I felt so bad for the lad losing out in the last game of the season, especially after all the games he saved us in.


10.) 19 May 2016 18:15:28
I think we need two CB's, our current stock include sick note Jones, MIA Rojo, a midfielder in Blind and the much improved Smalling. Personally I don't think any of them are good enough to be first choice for a team aiming to win the top titles. For me I wouldn't lose any sleep if Jones and/ or Rojo were to leave this summer.

So we need two first choice material CB's. Varane, Marquinhos, Umtiti or Stones could well be one option as a younger player with outstanding talent, but they would need a slightly older head brought in along side them to help them through those tough games. Manolas would be my first choice, but Mustafi, Bartra or Winston Reid would all be good options to play alongside them. The trick is to get the balance right.

Manolas would be my first choice as he is in my opinion the perfect modern defender, strong in the air, clean in the tackle, but with a good football brain and technique. Comfortable in playing the ball out but doesn't take risks. As such he would work well with any of the younger players. Bartra though maybe lacks a little physicality so would be better off paired with one of Umtiti of Varane who are more physical players. Reid isn't great on the ball but is a warrior so would probably be better paired with someone like Marquinhos who is an artist at the back.

Ideally I'd want Manolas along with onel of Marqunihos or Varane.


11.) 19 May 2016 18:17:49
So 38 appearances this season and 49 appearances last season doesn't cut it for you Shappy?

Okay then.


12.) 19 May 2016 18:20:15
Oh, and he was a starter and on the winning side in a CL final. I think he has the credentials to be considered as more than a prospect.


13.) 19 May 2016 18:43:19
Fresh, he has played quite a few games, but many of those have been sub apperances and not the full 90 minutes.

Answer me this if Ramos and Pepe are fit and not suspended who are the starting pair for Real Madrid?

In Evan's first season in the first team he made close to 40 appreances. Would you have called him more than a prospect or established at that time?

Whem your one of the first names on the team sheet then your established.

And when you play to your or close to your full potential every week then your more than a prospect.

Like I said I have every confidence that he will reach that potential but bare in mind that Jones was considered every bit as good as Varane when we signed him.

Anything could happen, but my gut feeling is he will he one of the best CB's in a few years, at which point he will not be a prospect but an established world class player.


14.) 19 May 2016 18:57:33
Varane can't get in the team at the moment, has said himself he hasn't played much since november and has missed out on the big games .
Which is why there is a lot of talk of him leaving .
At 23 i'm not sure i would say he is an established cb, i think over the next few years he will turn in to a top player and he won't be sat on the bench then.


15.) 19 May 2016 20:00:42
Shappy I like mustafi and Reid. I really rate Reid. His no frills defending would complement smalling. Very much like vidic to rio's more refined approach. I do worry that Marquinhos is a little on the small side. He is an excellent defender, but I think his size might be an issue in the physical premiership.

I totally agree get Rojo and especially Jones off the wage bill. Jones has made Wes Brown look good in terms of injuries. I dread to think how much he has cost in wages and not played.


16.) 19 May 2016 20:24:24
Huggy
Im a fan of reid, i would like him and stones .
Not sure about marquinhos in the epl to be honest.


17.) 19 May 2016 21:54:33
I think Marquinhos would be fine in the EPL, he uses his size very well.

Also the Ligue 1 has a lot of strong quick african players, so I'm sure he isn't adverse to a physical battle.


18.) 20 May 2016 10:28:00
Winston Reid.


19.) 20 May 2016 18:01:00
Mustafi or Reid with varane would do very nicely.

Same here. Varane isn't established just yet but a couple years of consistently starting and being a mainstay, which he has not been at Madrid and he will be ace!


 

 

14 May 2016 07:37:50
So sorry to do this, but a bola from Portugal are linking . Wait for it . Nico Gaitan. Let's hope he signs for somebody else within a few days.


1.) 14 May 2016 09:44:16
Surely we wouldn't let him leave. We just paid a fortune for the guy because we think he's out future, why on earth would we flog him now.


 

 

 

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21 Feb 2018 21:37:52
And the award for most boring game of the week goes to.

Glad we were only playing Sevilla and not Bayern or it would not have been nil - nil.

We really should have offered more going forward.


 

 

13 Feb 2018 10:05:48
Please please please let it be true. I don't care if no other newspaper story is correct all year, but let it be true that smalling and jones are to be sold and Toby Alderweireld is the player to come in.

Jones and smalling have had several seasons to establish themselves as first team players and to kick on. Jones has shown glimpses of potential, but not enough and not been available to play enough. Time they moved on and made space for Mensah, tuenzebe and hopefully Alderweireld.

Ed please say it's true. Mr Woodward just offer them as a BOGOF. Arsenal fancy the octopus smalling and nice but dim jones?


1.) 13 Feb 2018 11:22:34
Huggy i'd give them smalling jones blind rojo and darmian in exchange for alderwield.


2.) 13 Feb 2018 11:27:43
I would bite their hand off for Alderweireld. However, only chance this could happen is if spurs don’t get top 4. And I think they will so we can forget about signing him. Would be the ideal cb signing definitely the best cb in the league.


3.) 13 Feb 2018 12:20:30
Not sure if it is true, but I have read that toby only has 18months left on his contract with an option of a further 12months. More interestingly in the summer of 2019 a £25m release clause becomes active. Spurs may accept a decent offer 40-50m instead of losing him for £25m in 2019. Who knows Daniel levy will do what’s best for Spurs, but you can’t ignore the massive costs of the new stadium estimated at £1bn. They may be open to a decent offer. Bailey and Toby would be a significant improvement on smalling and jones.


4.) 13 Feb 2018 14:00:50
Yeh I saw something similar Huggy. He hasn’t signed a new contract yet so always a slim chance. He’s very good on the ball but also an organiser and strong in the air. We need a leader at the back and it’s so clear that we don’t have that and tbh Jones and smalling are a shambles together. I say go all out for Toby as he is premier league proven and a leader.


 

 

12 Feb 2018 11:46:13
It's going to be an interesting summer this year. There could be significant churn at our club. I would not be surprised to see 9 players leaving the club:

Cameron Botwick-Jackson, Sergio Romero (maybe as not played much), Zlatan, Mata, Fellaini, Carrick, Darmian, Blind and Smalling (if we can convince anybody to take him) .

Most squad places will hopefully be filled by TFM, Tuanzebe, D Mitchell (having a blinder at hearts), T Chong and A Gomez (both maybe a bit young), Perreira (if he doesn't opt to stay in Spain permanently.

Then hopefully 3 new players. 1 DM, 1 creative CM and a RW. As to who I am not sure, but they need to have desire and not be afraid to work hard a la Sanchez.

The youth might be inexperienced, but I hope they will show more desire than some of our stale senior players. I would rather watch the youth get a chance and suffer a few loses than be forced to watch more dross like Saturdays performance.

I know Jose said we would sign two in the summer, but I suspect that is before players leave. Once we shift a few I suspect he will look to sign more.

On a positive side if we intro the youth highlighted above that means we can potentially move on jones, smalling and young in due course as our quota of home grown players will improve. We might finally find out if they have been hanging on due to their passport rather than their ability. Interesting times ahead.


1.) 12 Feb 2018 17:20:28
Where as every league season seems to be Liverpool’s year to win the league every summer now seems to be our transfer window to get things right and it feels like forever ending. We have splashed the cash now for several seasons don’t get me wrong but without getting things right on the field and to be honest it’s not acceptable to have spent this amount of money without getting anywhere near a league title. Buying big names who become available will not close the gap if they don’t fit the system. We want a brilliant team who no there jobs and bring out the best in each other not 11 brilliant individuals who are playing for themselves.


 

 

11 Feb 2018 16:01:27
Wow, we should not be struggling against a Newcastle team that has been starved of resources. A very poor performance in my view. I know we had a few chances and that their keeper has been brilliant, but it should have been no contest in our favour. Plus if the ref had been on his game Newcastle should have had a penalty.

I hope we play better against Sevilla. We just look so disjointed and we definitely have a soft centre.


1.) 11 Feb 2018 16:15:26
Half of the players aren’t good enough pure and simple plus no passion and desire. Poor all round bar Sanchez and Lukaku.


2.) 11 Feb 2018 16:19:34
This is a very very bad result . Beginning to question if Jose is the tactical genius that is claimed!


3.) 11 Feb 2018 16:22:07
All them players are good enough to beat Newcastle.
It's a big reason we are second in the league.


 

 

04 Feb 2018 18:08:22
Loving victor wanyama channelling michael Essien. Lovely goal and even better it's looking like a draw.


 

 

 

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11 Feb 2018 18:45:30
We are at serious risk of being overtaken by Liverpool and spurs if our performances don’t improve soon. Not good.


 

 

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16 Jun 2017 23:48:07
We don't need him. We already have pogba and Ander in midfield to do the pretty stuff. We need a destroyer. A brick wall to shield the defence.

Someone mobile with a bit of pace and knows how to tackle.


 

 

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16 Jun 2017 14:45:08
If we are being asked to pay £70m for morata, I would pay £150m for ronaldo. He might be 32, but he guarantees you goals. He would have put away a significant portion of the chances we missed last season.

He knows the country and the league. He looks after himself. In terms of conditioning he is in better shape than half the players in the league. And if zlat can get 28 goals Ronny would easily get you 40. At least we would have someone who could take a decent free kick.

And from Woody Woodward perspective, is there a more marketable player/ sportsman in the world?

Heck I am feeling generous, Madrid here is £50m + Degea for our Ronny. Ac Milan here is £30m for donnarumma.

Job done. If only it were that simple.


 

 

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12 Aug 2016 13:28:18
Cookyman,
Totally agree. It is much better that he goes on loan if he is going to get the chance to play week in week out in the EPL. If he gets to play regular first team football he should only improve and hopefully come back ready to slot into our first team.

He is a little light weight, but has bags of technical ability. Reminds me a lot of Mata, except that he has more pace than mata. I hope he make the grade. Would love to see him in the first team after a season away earning his stripes.


 

 

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12 Aug 2016 13:28:18
Cookyman,
Totally agree. It is much better that he goes on loan if he is going to get the chance to play week in week out in the EPL. If he gets to play regular first team football he should only improve and hopefully come back ready to slot into our first team.

He is a little light weight, but has bags of technical ability. Reminds me a lot of Mata, except that he has more pace than mata. I hope he make the grade. Would love to see him in the first team after a season away earning his stripes.


 

 

 

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13 Feb 2018 12:20:30
Not sure if it is true, but I have read that toby only has 18months left on his contract with an option of a further 12months. More interestingly in the summer of 2019 a £25m release clause becomes active. Spurs may accept a decent offer 40-50m instead of losing him for £25m in 2019. Who knows Daniel levy will do what’s best for Spurs, but you can’t ignore the massive costs of the new stadium estimated at £1bn. They may be open to a decent offer. Bailey and Toby would be a significant improvement on smalling and jones.


 

 

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11 Feb 2018 18:21:26
In my view the problem is we are a collection of individuals and not a team. We lack balance and desire. Too many players are collecting well above average wages for well below average performances. We have brought in a gem of a player in Sanchez, but it has thrown our team out of kilter, forcing our form player prior to Sanchez coming in (martial) to move position.

There is a lack of movement from our attacking players. They only run in straight lines if they run at all. Poor lukaku had to come deep for the ball too often. Seem to be the same complaints as two years ago. What is going on?


 

 

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04 Feb 2018 15:58:19
Even anti utd Shearer called it out on match of the day. Talking about the youth, does anybody know how tuenzebe got on yesterday for villa? Did he play?


 

 

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03 Feb 2018 14:57:09
Totally agree. What he is doing on such a small budget is fantastic. His team is set up to play as a unit, as a team. Every player giving 110% every game. He is a brilliant motivator and tactician. Given the budget constraints his players are not the most technically gifted, but they do not look out of place in this league.

I think adding Lennon to the squad will serve them well. It gives them something extra, a bit of pace and dribbling skill to move them up the pitch and to create space by drawing a couple of players to him.


 

 

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31 Jan 2018 15:04:06
Well done Chelsea for making the effort.