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Team: Manchester United


Where from: Getafe, Spain


Favourite player: Di Stefano, Bergkamp, Scholes and Iniesta


Best team moment: Getafe beating Barcelona 4-0 in the 2007 Copa Del Rey semi-final.

United - Probably the 95-96 double.


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NFL - Denver Broncos
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16 Jul 2015 11:17:36
I read earlier that if Van Gaal was unable to get his first or second choice keeper that he will instead opt to use Sam Johnstone - a player he and the OT staff rate very highly.

If there was ever a time for Johnstone to breakthrough, this would be it.

Jose Moonrinho

1.) 16 Jul 2015 11:22:25
He's impressed me whenever I have seen him. Would love to see him break onto the scene and become great, being English too makes it even more exciting.


2.) 16 Jul 2015 11:36:02
Wouldn't be a bad backup choice but too great a risk as first choice.


3.) 16 Jul 2015 12:10:46
I wouldn't object to the idea, as long as he has experience around him I think he'll be fine.


4.) 16 Jul 2015 13:15:53
The problem is the lack of experience around him.


5.) 16 Jul 2015 18:38:06
If it came to that throw him in at the deep end. When will be the right time to introduce him.


 

 

 

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16 May 2019 21:42:21
If pogba goes and we don't feel Gomes is up to the job then I really hope we take a look at Davies, the lad at Everton.

Saying that he's a nice replacement for Herrera.

Jose Moonrinho

{Ed025's Note - just signed a new 4 year deal last month JM, but nice try mate.. :)


1.) 17 May 2019 01:09:46
Much rather go for someone like Andre Gomes or Youri Tielemans.


2.) 17 May 2019 01:24:33
He’s top draw Ed, I’m surprised how little credit he gets for the work he does.

Surely it’s only a matter of time before a couple of bigger clubs have a try?

{Ed025's Note - he is still very young JM and if im honest a bit green but he has bundles of energy and hes a very exciting prospect, of course i dont want everton to lose him but i agree that he should be the likes of player that united should be looking for, unfortunately in these days of the modern day microwave supporters wanting instant success and big money stars it seems unlikely though, maybe united should have looked to you rather than OGS mate as i think you have got it spot on..


 

 

18 Dec 2018 13:48:23
So the mirror editor tweeted that he thinks it's Blanc and then a move for Poch. Going on to say that nobody at the club wants Zidane.

I don't really think that's going to happen or that it'll be a good idea.

I know there are a few against Zidane. The argument for him is for Pogba really but it's being argued that he's simply not good enough (Pogba) .

Imo he's the wrong choice like I said so I'm glad they're going against him potentially.

Poch, Ancelotti, Machin or Julian Naglsmann (ideally naglsmann or Machin) would be my choices. I'd consider Howe too.

Blanc I'm really not keen on but the french factor is there to bring the best out of Pogba. The fact his last job was screwing up PSG in 2016 is a worry for me, for 6 months maybe I could cope but he wasn't with United long, is barely a cult hero and tbh is only linked because he's the only former player to do relatively well

I'm not sure who the best choice is. If it's short term and they're happy then Conte would be my choice full stop.

If we have to go down in 'quality' then I'd bite your hand off for Jardim as well.

Jose Moonrinho

1.) 18 Dec 2018 14:14:56
I really hope we don’t bring someone in just to try get something from Pogba, I’d still move Pogba on.

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with Pogba.}


2.) 18 Dec 2018 14:23:16
If Manchester United get Zidane in an effort to ‘get the best’ out of the glorified youtube freestyler that is Paul. Pogba because of instagram followers, and then your club is truly dead. You guys need to build from the ground up and Pogba has to be out the door. I personally also think you will go for Blanc as caretaker and the go for Poch, whether that will be successful as an approach is debatable. You need someone like Hiddink to raise the mood of the players and just get them to play with some freedom til the end of the season, maybe even someone with Champions League winning credentials, seeing as its the only thing left to play for.

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with Pogba.}


3.) 18 Dec 2018 16:54:35
How did Blanc ruin PSG? He did well there.

{Ed002's Note - It is simply an ill informed post - ignore it.}


 

 

05 Oct 2018 12:53:47
The divide Is becoming clear.

On one hand we have Fellaini, Matic, Young, Lukaku, etc.

Whilst on the other we have Pogba, Martial, Lingard, Rashford, etc.

I'm still backing Mou though, I'd rather be a club that stuck with their manager and move on the trouble makers - no matter how difficult that may be regardless of the style of football than let our top players (he's been here 2 years and he's acting like it's his club) dictate the managerial changes.

The grass isn't always greener on the other side.

Also, let's not forget Mourinho wanted Perisic not Sanchez and would have liked Varane (or similar) .

He even wanted new fullbacks.

Seeing as this team has glaring on field issues costing us games at fullback, centre back on a creative front with Sanchez why is anyone surprised by the outcome?

Morale is low because of the divide but if he got who he wanted I guarantee we'd be talking about how good we've been.

I'm not saying he's perfect, far from it's but if you give him players who believe in him he'll deliver you trophies. If you let Pogba constantly mouth off you're letting the rest of the squad question our approach.

Back him and let him build his way (as he didn't at Inter, Porto and Chelsea pt1) or play Tug of war with player power and watch the undermining of our manager be what's beats us.

You don't go from best in the world for a decade to nothing just like that. We're the problem here not him.

Commitment from the club would be nice but so would commitment from Mourinho - IE getting his arse out of the hotel.

Jose Moonrinho

{Ed001's Note - you do realise Lukaku is not in any camp separate from his best mate Pogba right? So your talk of it being clear is obviously false, you would only have to see the tunnel at the weekend when the likes of Shaw all made a point of a handshake and pat on the back off Mourinho, while Lukaku totally and completely blanked him, even when standing next to him for a time while waiting to go out.}


1.) 05 Oct 2018 13:11:50
Mourinho only ever does three seasons tops with a club, he’s on his third season with us .
We’ve seen what happens at other clubs when he goes into meltdown, it generally just gets worse not better .
So what exactly is the benefit in backing Mourinho when there no future in it.


2.) 05 Oct 2018 14:03:53
Your first group, fellaini, matic and young have one glaring difference to the other group : they are 30 + and in the last couple of years of careers at a big club. They have probably seen turmoil in he dressing rooms at former clubs and can't be arsed to get involved. Content to get playing time as such. The second group although only 5- 10 years younger are from a different world in terms of social media and the ever increasing player power and agent manipulation of situations. I don't think JM or indeed a few other managers can grasp the changes and the necessity to change tactics when dealing with it but having the correct backroom personel AND letting them deal with it could diffuse all the crap that's been reported in the press. The players need a go between sometimes with exception to the footba- after all every EPL game isn't 22 players simply playing for their respective jersey's ;its 22 millionaires with a vast majority of them thinking they have "made" it.


3.) 05 Oct 2018 14:21:15
Morale is low because the players are being asked to play a flawed and outdated system, and when things don’t work the manager throws them under the bus rather than accept some responsibility.

There isn’t really a clear divide either. There are a few players going out of their way to back Jose because their status at the club is depending on him remaining in post. There are a few players openly at odds with Jose because they are concerned that he is being detrimental to their careers and/ or they’re trying to force through a move away from the club. The vast majority of players are trying to stay out of the way. They want the club to get back to winning ways, and are most likely frustrated by the whole situation.


4.) 05 Oct 2018 14:31:27
He wanted a full back, and he got Dalot, who's looked raw, but decent. Shaw has probably been our best player since the start of the season, so I don't see full backs being the problem, more how they're asked to play.

{Ed002's Note - Dalot is one for the future rather than a first pick player now.}


5.) 05 Oct 2018 16:05:40
Ed001, There have been many reports over the past few months of Lukaku distancing himself from Pogba because he doesn't want to impact his relationship with Mourinho - how true it is I do not know.

regardless of where the divide is, I think it's clear we've got issues and differing opinions among the playing staff which is undermining the manager's approach in my opinion.

Bilko, this isn't exactly usual territory for Mourinho though in terms of the state he picked our club up in. It only gets worse at clubs where players think they know better and stop believing, those where they've kept the faith he's been very successful - Inter, Chelsea (first time), Porto to name the obvious 3. - at Madrid he had Ramos and Casillas constantly questioning him, at Chelsea it was Hazard and here it's Pogba.

There is only no point to it if we don't go all in, if we do go all in with him, he gets a house close to the club, we commit to him, etc. then I can actually see it working out well but we need to go all in or not at all.

Cookyman, that's a good observation. I'd argue it's because the younger generation of today's game think they know everything and the older players can be a little wiser on some occasions.

I completely agree with what you're saying to be honest. I think even Sir Alex would have struggled a little with the new age of players. Mourinho NEEDS everyone buying into the system for it to work - that's not happening right now, unfortunately.

Danny, that flawed and outdated system is very similar to the one Real Madrid just won 3 back to back championships with, or the one that got Atletico being spoken about as an elite club. There's nothing wrong with strong counter-attacking football and real defensive principles (Inter vs Barcelona a few years back was fantastic defensively, if we could produce performances like Inter then I'd be okay with it) .

To me there is a clear divide, we could go through the players all day but that's just my opinion at the end of the day really. Those that think Mourinho is harming their career need to realise that they're doing that themselves by failing to show up week after week. Not exactly very professional is it? Another reason why I'd prefer Mourinho to Pogba and co any day of the week.

Noucamp99, He didn't want a child for the future, he wanted someone to come in and take game time from Valencia and Young. Shaw has upped his game and fair play to him, but Valencia has been dire and you can't tell me replacing him with say, Kimmich, for example, would have been a huge upgrade.

if you're saying to me I can have; Pogba, Rashford and Martial or I can keep Mourinho; I'm keeping Mourinho.

We've had the same issues since Sir Alex left, this is a club-wide problem, not a managerial problem. Let's deal with it by keeping the best in the business employed at United - which Mourinho is.

{Ed001's Note - Lukaku and Pogba have not distanced themselves at all. The reports are just trash.}


6.) 05 Oct 2018 16:48:20
So let me get this straight. Under Jose, Madrid never progressed past the CL semis, but his approach was instrumental to them winning three in a row a full two seasons after he left? Should Jose be thanking Davy Moyes for his Europa league success.

I might be a bit off, but I don’t recall Zidane’s Madrid sides putting ten players behind the ball to sit deep with minimal pressing, or resorting to long balls to the big man. Your example of Inter v Barcelona is telling because that is nearly a decade ago. Since then teams have adapted and worked on strategies to counter Jose’s bus parking. It’s telling that as other coaches have adapted and evolved, Jose’s approach has become less and less effective. But yeah, all hail Jose for the Real’s CL treble, which he played no part in achieving.


7.) 05 Oct 2018 14:03:06
You sure they're best mates Ed? Remember them being close when Lukaku signed but they're not as close as they were according to 'reports', distanced him self from Pogba after all the negative publicity/ press.

{Ed001's Note - they are still close according to one of their agencies, who have still been offering them for jobs as a pair. I am sure you can guess the agency.}


8.) 05 Oct 2018 17:34:23
Just seen your response to Moon on falsing reports, my bad Ed. Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - no worries mate.}


9.) 05 Oct 2018 19:36:12
That's all well and good Moon, but the football under Mourinho is going to be boring rubbish no matter what happens.

This above all else is why he has to go.

There's something in philosophy called the principle of induction which is when we expect the future based on the past. I think you and numerous others are guilty of this, although when it comes to Mourinho there are less than there were six months ago.


10.) 05 Oct 2018 19:57:43
Don’t understand this “if Jose got who he wanted he would be doing well”. He wanted Pogba and can’t get a tune from him, he wanted Matic and he’s slower than my gran, he wanted Bailly and doesn’t play him. He wanted Lukaku who can’t finish his dinner, he has spent a lot of money on players he wanted, and yet we’re still dross. Who’s fault is it then.


11.) 05 Oct 2018 20:38:41
What he means Stand is that we should keep getting Jose players until he has a squad that do exactly what he says, and don’t give him any reason to fall out with them. If he loses the dressing room then get him a new one.


12.) 05 Oct 2018 21:12:32
If lukaku distanced himself from pogba for the sake of his own career, then he's a pretty poor friend. He can still be friends with him without getting involved in any issues he has. If mourinho gave that impression to any of the players then that's dreadful management, the players need to get on, if it's frowned upon to associate yourself with pogba because mourinhos having a spat with him then no wonder he wants out, that must be a terrible environment to go into every day school yard stuff.


13.) 06 Oct 2018 00:24:24
Jose Mourinho and Moon. Mourinho wanted cb's and he bought bailly and Lindleof. Bailly is good but has fallen out with the manager. Lindlehof is crap.
He wanted a defensive midfielder, so he bought matic and i said at the time, too slow and ponderous and getting on. He wanted a playmaker, so he bought Pogba and Mkhitaryan and has fallen out with both of them.
Are you telling us that all these players are wrong? Sanchez is a world class player, has looked like a 3rd division player.
Get rid of this person, let Carrick do the job, even if he's inexperienced, then appoint manager who believes in our club.
Gary Neville has a point in that the club hierarchy have no manners and are a bunch of gun slinging yanks, but unfortunately, they will be wrong in allowing Mourinho to carry on.


14.) 06 Oct 2018 14:30:24
Liverpool fan here, lads you lot need to back your manager if a was Jose, pogba would be playing with the ressies till Jan (and sold for as much as u can get for him) Then Jose would need to tell anyone else u buy into what am doing here or u will be along side pogba.
Things might change if he keeps pogba away from all first team football related stuff that been the dressing room aswell.
The rest of the players need to grow the fxxk up and do what the getting paid huge sums of money to do and that's show up and play football the way they are told to do, weather they like the tactics or not.
One thing about Jose is he is proving in winning trophies he might not play exciting football but he knows how to win.
As a Liverpool fan the one thing I don't want come may when we win the league is you lot trying to take it away from us by saying stuff like, u only had to beat one team, and it was the easiest season to win the league, abit like Leicester. A would prefer every team be at there best because reguardless we will still win the league even with every other team playing there best football.
Peace lads over and out.


 

 

30 Sep 2018 21:32:10
If we don't back Mourinho and instead take sides with Pogba then we'll consistently be Pogba's and thus Raiolas play thing.

We need to move forward properly, Pogba needs to go because he's acting like a combined version of Balotelli and Joey Barton. I'd bite your hand off for £50 Million in January.

Whether Mourinho goes now or in the summer it can't be as a consequence of this rubbish.

Personally I think Pogba is slowly turning The dressing room against Mourinho hence why Lukaku is 'distancing' himself from pogba. As he gets on well with Mourinho.

If Mourinho goes based on performance then so be it and that's different argument but if he goes because of pogba then we know who the most influential Man at the club is.

We've already got a spineless board and hierarchy. Imagine how easily pogba and mino will manipulate them into getting whatever he wants at Pogba FC

Oh and my 2 cents on Mou - I still think he's the right man for the job, things are tough right now but he'll get it sorted and quite frankly the only manager I trust more left the game in 2013.

Jose Moonrinho

1.) 30 Sep 2018 21:41:40
Jose' failure is due to far more than his issues with Pogba.

{Ed025's Note - i think so too daniel..


2.) 30 Sep 2018 21:53:53
Moonrinho I agree with you about pogba but you're deluded mate if you think. he can turn this round he is done we need to get rid of him asap this season isn't done yet but if we wait any longer it will be too late.
We need a manager with a modern football philosophy because we've got a good enough squad to be very good.


3.) 30 Sep 2018 22:18:55
Moorinho, are you having a laugh. Do you honestly think Mourinho is the right man? Explain to us if you can, why do you think he's capable of dping that?
Rashford- gone backwards
Martial - gone backwards
Bailly - gone backwards
Hererra- gone backwards
Jones rojo lindlehof - were crap and gone even further backwards
Mkhitaryan- bought and sold in 8 months
Pigba - brilliant for France, can't play at United!
Matic - bought and i said at the time, he'll be a liability, gone backwards
Chong, gomez, Tunazebe, not trusted to break into the team.
Mctominay, an average midfielder with very limited skill, continuously gets picked and then played into central defence.
Sanchez - regressing at Arsenal, bought and given a record breaking contract and achieved nothing to date.
The only players playing well are Fellaini, Shaw and Lingard (though lingard has been terrible this season) .
So have all these players suddenly become bad players? I don't think so. Its the manager, the training, the tactics, the poor man management, the poor transfer policy that have turned us into a rubbish team and Mourinho is solely to blame.


4.) 30 Sep 2018 22:25:16
The Pogba “issue” is just one of a string of problems Mourinho has. I’ll give it until December.


5.) 30 Sep 2018 23:04:56
I think Jose will be here until we are out of the CL.


6.) 01 Oct 2018 09:00:22
Moon mate, I agree that giving in to player power is a dangerous path to go down. However, I would say the club are already halfway down that path. How many times have the club given players new contracts after a public stand off? Keane, Rooney ect.

As for Jose, I think he is a spent force at the very pinnacle of the game. He has always looked better at clubs just below the very top bracket. He was great at Porto, at Chelsea first time round, at Inter. However, he struggled at Madrid bar one great season. At Chelsea second time around once they were established as a top side and with us.

His style of management and football suits a team that doesn't see itself as a true top side. They can buy into the cynical underdog mentality which established top sides struggle to accept.

Mourinho has always been a reactive coach rather than a proactive one. What can we do to limit the opposition rather than what can we do to hurt them.

I still think Mourinho is excellent at what he does. But I don't know which top teams would seriously consider him for their next manager.
Bayern certainly wouldn't, Juventus wouldn't, Barcelona and Real Madrid wouldn't. Man City wouldn't, I doubt even Chelsea would go back for a third bite of the apple. Maybe PSG. But then many wouldn't consider them truly in the top bracket yet after struggling to make waves in the UCL.

Jose will only get jobs at clubs that next bracket down now. Which maybe highlights that his star is waning.

Truly top sides expect more than just winning, they expect to do so with a certain sense of style, this is something Jose just cannot do.

I think his future is now in international management. Where cynical teams often prevail over flamboyant teams.

Jose was a great manager, yet he is now on the decline. Football has moved on, and he has stood still. He truly is now the underdog he had proclaimed himself to be all throughout his career.


 

 

07 Sep 2018 10:23:36
I said when we were looking to sign him back that he's not too dissimilar to Balotelli in the way he handles himself.

Differences in action are there but the consequences remain the same - a complete distraction.

As good as he is I really hope we manage to ship him out before the start of next season.

Sir Alex has been right on a lot of things post-retirement. I wonder whether getting him involved in more of the footballing matters would improve things.

Jose Moonrinho

1.) 07 Sep 2018 10:44:57
The club need to modernise, move forward. SAF, as a great leader, operated in a particular way that served him well but it was very much old school, now modern footballers are moving on from the mentality that worked in distant years gone by. For those who think SAF got everything right there is the racehorse and then there was the Moyes debacle.

SAF has been very ill and I think deserves a fitting happy retirement. We need to look forward not back, the challenge of City is now there, they planned for years ahead and now we have to. There is a similarity to the post Busby years, a hankering to return to what we had before, to listen to Busby’s wisdom and follow it. It took so many years for the club to move forward after Busby so we need to ensure that doesn’t happen now. SAF is part of our past, rightly venerated for what he did but now the planning needs to be driven from the top. Planning and work on the football side should be driven by the aims of the owners, let’s see what that is.


2.) 07 Sep 2018 10:47:28
I think SAF has earned his retirement, he has a had a serious illness and it’s time for him to put his feet up and enjoy his family. Even if he was fighting fit, this would echo the Busby shadow that lingered when he moved on, it’s best to let the new guy do things his own way.

Pogba was always a risk and so it has turned out. His agent is canny and making millions for himself and his player.

My biggest issue is that in our heyday Pogba wouldn’t have got away with his behaviour. Keane, Ince, Bruce, Pallister, Hughes, Cantona, the class of ‘92 to name just some, would have ripped his head off. Unfortunately we don’t seem to have big characters who can ‘run’ the dressing room. We need talent but we also need character. How have we ended up with a Captain who doesn’t speak very good English? Klopp has it right - improve your English or you’re out.


3.) 07 sep 2018 11:14:17
yep, saf was right to force young players to sign for his son’s agency. that was definitely the right way to decide which young players got game time.

club tries to sell player in summer. nobody willing to pay the club’s price. player, who was offered for sale, suggests that his future may not be with club that tried to sell him. fans - omg worst oerson ever, no respect, rabble rabble rabble

yawn.


4.) 08 Sep 2018 11:25:21
Danny, taking an opinion from the internet regarding the Pogba thing isn't exactly a smart thing to do.

Remind me to ignore most of the things you post as they appear to be hearsay.

Unfortunately I'd need more than a few words to prove that's it was the reason he left.

Either way, right now I'd rather have Balotelli.


5.) 08 Sep 2018 12:49:28
The info about Pogba being frozen out because he didn’t sign for Fergie’s son comes from Ed001.

The info about Pogba being offered to clubs this summer comes from Ed002.

Two of the most well informed people on this site, but I guess you know best Moonie.


6.) 08 Sep 2018 21:41:19
Ed002 is quite clearly well informed because a lot of what he says Ian backed up when it happens.


I know all about SAFs flaws but I have no reason to believe 1 persons belief on it without finding evidence elsewhere; to which their is minimal.

Either way I don’t follow the sport as much as I used too and I’m my eyes Pogba is a bigger issue than the like of Balotelli, Payet and Griezmann.


 

 

 

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25 May 2016 16:57:43
People do realise Rooney is only on £150K basic don't they? When he signed his new deal he got insane on target bonuses but I don't see why a similar thing couldn't be worked out at Everton.

I'm sure the likes of Lukaku are on £100K+.

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21 Jul 2015 00:01:02
The more I come on here the more I see a lot of posters talk absolutely rubbish.

He's absolutely brilliant.

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16 Jul 2015 12:10:46
I wouldn't object to the idea, as long as he has experience around him I think he'll be fine.

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06 Jul 2015 00:05:40
He's better than coleman, one of the few fullbacks who is incredible defensively (has the aerial presence of a central defender) and is very Brazilian in his adventures up field

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17 May 2019 01:24:33
He’s top draw Ed, I’m surprised how little credit he gets for the work he does.

Surely it’s only a matter of time before a couple of bigger clubs have a try?

Jose Moonrinho

{Ed025's Note - he is still very young JM and if im honest a bit green but he has bundles of energy and hes a very exciting prospect, of course i dont want everton to lose him but i agree that he should be the likes of player that united should be looking for, unfortunately in these days of the modern day microwave supporters wanting instant success and big money stars it seems unlikely though, maybe united should have looked to you rather than OGS mate as i think you have got it spot on..


 

 

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16 Jan 2019 17:29:46
Shappy we've had some good debates and conversations over the years. Especially back in the day when we were both known for posting ridiculously long pieces.

But i've got to say, I disagree with a lot of what you've said here in all honestly, I imagine many will in fact stay with the club for a further 12 months.

Whoever the technical director and/ or new manager will be in the summer needs time to assess everyone.

In my view there's more likely to be a mass exodus in 2020 with young fringe players moving on this summer.

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13 Jan 2019 15:19:02
1 - Julian Nagelsmann
2 - Marcelo Gallardo
3 - Mauricio Pochettino (would still prefer an Ancelotti over him though)

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19 Dec 2018 10:48:31
He plays a press but more like Nagelsmann than Klopp. He favours high energy over almost everything.

Expect a 4-3-3 set-up with Herrera, Fred and Pogba in the middle.

He hasn’t mastered the press at all however and at the moment it resembles more of a copycat tactic than one he has developed himself.

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26 Nov 2018 13:18:14
Couldn’t have put it better myself mate.

I’ve said it a 1000 times, when things between Mou and pogba were all over the media I wouldn’t have sacked pogba and shown the players that Mou is the man in charge here not some french Becks wannabe.

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