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Team: Manchester United


Where from: Getafe, Spain


Favourite player: Di Stefano, Bergkamp, Scholes and Iniesta


Best team moment: Getafe beating Barcelona 4-0 in the 2007 Copa Del Rey semi-final.

United - Probably the 95-96 double.


Interests: football - Manchester United, Getafe
NFL - Denver Broncos
Song producing/writing.
Poetry.


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16 Jul 2015 11:17:36
I read earlier that if Van Gaal was unable to get his first or second choice keeper that he will instead opt to use Sam Johnstone - a player he and the OT staff rate very highly.

If there was ever a time for Johnstone to breakthrough, this would be it.

Jose Moonrinho

1.) 16 Jul 2015 11:22:25
He's impressed me whenever I have seen him. Would love to see him break onto the scene and become great, being English too makes it even more exciting.


2.) 16 Jul 2015 11:36:02
Wouldn't be a bad backup choice but too great a risk as first choice.


3.) 16 Jul 2015 12:10:46
I wouldn't object to the idea, as long as he has experience around him I think he'll be fine.


4.) 16 Jul 2015 13:15:53
The problem is the lack of experience around him.


5.) 16 Jul 2015 18:38:06
If it came to that throw him in at the deep end. When will be the right time to introduce him.


 

 

 

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01 Nov 2016 16:34:59
I'm not one for Facebook or any kind of social media to be honest but I saw the Manchester United facebook page through a friend of mine earlier today and he was scrolling through the posts.

The club literally act like a small club, tagging Ronaldo or any other half decent ex player in most posts, etc.

IE that had one about Ronaldo.

I then got showed the Manchester City page and they seem to be far more sure of their own pulling power, interviews with people like Sane, Silva, etc.

Anyway, my point is simply a question, do Manchester United act like a 'small' club on social media usually?

It's the first I saw of it and although I don't really care an awful lot it certainly got me thinking.

Jose Moonrinho

1.) 01 Nov 2016 16:56:52
You have been looking at the wrong pages moon!

have you ever got anything to say that carries any substance?

from what i have seen the answer is no!


2.) 01 Nov 2016 17:09:22
There is bitching and then there is what you have posted, small club like seriously, ronaldo was tagged as it was supposedly 1st nov when he scored his first goal for us, i apologize to you if it hurt you that utd fans consider him a legend and utd facebook celebrated much like other so called half decent ex players who seem to be tagged mostly for their birthdays or to mark something, which city can't really do i mean there is not much past to celebrate when your legends include likes of niall quinn and paul dickov.

Also just to be sure i went on the utd page and only thing other than usual utd related stuff i found was ronaldo stuff (1 post), happy birthdays to mark hughes and dennis irwin and van der saar and bit of advertising for addidas and others, so where is this so called small stuff or is it your expectation than a social media page by man utd should not wish explayers happy birthday or mark any occasions that jose moonrinho might not like.


3.) 01 Nov 2016 17:13:01
Moon your posts are getting more odd every time you post.

Acting like a small club on social media? How does a club act on social media to project themselves as a big club?

What scale does one use?


4.) 01 Nov 2016 18:01:25
Van Gaal's social media is the best. He has all the info on the best topics and times to post, the best font, etc. He spends 90 minutes meticulously planning every aspect of his posts, but never actually ends up posting anything.


5.) 01 Nov 2016 17:55:23
Moon are you really serious?


6.) 01 Nov 2016 19:18:20
Got to assume this one is a wind up, and not the first one recently, if not I'm confused and embarrassed for you.


7.) 01 Nov 2016 19:25:09
Here comes the 'Moon' again!


8.) 01 Nov 2016 19:28:09
Moon - I had to swallow the fact Welbeck was sold, I think it's time you did the same with LVG being axed mate.


9.) 01 Nov 2016 23:14:43
Beast - where on earth do you get that dig from? How did another dig at Moon over LVG become relevant? Reading through these responses it is like everyone is out to chase Moon away, is this seriously what this page has come to?


10.) 02 Nov 2016 00:11:44
DodgyBanter - Because ever since LVG was sacked (Who Moon backed until the very very end), his posts have become more and more bizarre for him. He posted a very interesting article a while ago on LVG's tactics, which although I disagreed with, it still was very comprehensive and I often enjoyed reading Moon's views. However of late he seems to be saying bizarre things about Rashford, Facebook and other stuff which makes me think he is not happy about Man Utd and maybe there is something behind it. That is where my point came from.

I was a bit bitter after we sold Welbeck, and this reminds me of that. Not that I feel i should justify myself to PC police. I'm not chasing Moon away (the opposite in fact), I just wondered if that disappointed about LVG being sacked is tainting his posts and maybe damaging the reputation he garnered. As you can tell above, people are confused about what he has been saying lately. I'm trying to help because I am often labeled as one thing or another, but there is often more to it.

I'm not bothered either way, but "my dig" was more of a plea not a snipe. I like "bizzare" posts, they get the conversation going and if not totally messed up can often lead to alternative thinking.


11.) 02 Nov 2016 02:31:22
That wasn't only aimed at you Beast, read evenzidan's response and I think my point is understood:

"have you ever got anything to say that carries any substance? "

Well yes evenzidane, he's long been a highly respected poster on this site who has often written detailed and interesting posts/ articles.

But let's score some more points over LVG.

Ignore me, must be my time of the month, but I agree with your response beast - I would like to see more input from posters like Moon - not less.


12.) 02 Nov 2016 05:15:26
Doggy

Apparently you haven't been reading Moon's post (especially of late) .


13.) 02 Nov 2016 08:56:04
Dodogybanter-

i have been reading Moons posts for a while and until june (ish) time this year they have had some form of subject matter whether i agree or not is irrelevant.

Hoewever, the last 6 months of sporadic no nonsensical posts seem to have the rest on here in agreement that they are strange and a lot of the time either snipey (with no argument to back up) or just pointless.


14.) 02 Nov 2016 08:58:10
* forgot to add - i haven't mentioned LVG in any way including digs at Moon.


15.) 02 Nov 2016 10:49:00
Ahh, I see, my apologies. I didn't realise it was Moon hunting season on the site. But if everyoje agrees that he is irrelevant then I guess I should jump on the band wagon then.

Incredible.


16.) 02 Nov 2016 11:46:30
there is no 'moon hunting' going on.

If i put something on here that people generally think is out of order/ strange/ based on incorrect facts or whatever the case maybe then i would have no issue if 4,5 or 10 people told me so. i would expect it!

just like you have pointed out that you think my reply to Moon may be off the mark. If there were 10 people on here agreeing with you i wouldn't consider that a 'hunting'.

And you need read the post (s) correctly - nobody has said that Moon or his posts were or are irrelevant.


 

 

26 Oct 2016 13:12:03
We've all seen a lot lately how Mourinho seems to be a little stressed to say the least.

Many have asked if he's past it, outdated, etc. I also remember the same questions being asked about Sir Alex Ferguson.

My honest opinion is that he isn't past it but his past few managerial roles (Real Madrid and Chelsea) have been an absolute disaster in how he left - in both circumstances players forced him out.

I think Jose needs a break from Football for a few years.

Don't get me wrong, this isn't about Manchester United and his role here it's about him as a manager and it's clear that he's struggling with how his career has gone recently.

I have full faith in him as a manager but as a person he certainly needs a break of some kind.

Jose Moonrinho

1.) 26 Oct 2016 13:46:39
Didn't he have a break before this job?


2.) 26 Oct 2016 14:13:45
It's great seeing Maureen losing the plot.


3.) 26 Oct 2016 15:41:59
Mighty Red, losing the plot is when a manager starts harping on about FACTS.


 

 

18 Oct 2016 16:36:15
I've seen a few posts on here lately with people throwing the world 'legend' around.

Can we get this straight; Scholes, Giggs, Beckham, Keane, Cantona, Ronaldo, Rooney, Best, Law, Edwards, etc. are not legends, they're greats or icons or whatever wording you choose to use.

Manchester United has 1 legend and that's Sir Bobby Charlton, you perhaps argue Sir Alex.

A Legend goes above and beyond the usual standard of a player.

If we use Bobby Charlton as the benchmark (which he is) then you need to have won absolutely everything as a player, spend your entire career with the club and then after you've retired continue to spend your life at the club in some capacity.

A legend only has his accomplishments bettered or equalled once in 2 or 3 generations.

Jose Moonrinho

{Ed025's Note - for me jose being a legend is subjective, would you not class best or law as legends?, im afraid its not up to you mate but your entitled to your opinion of course...just like everyone else..


1.) 18 Oct 2016 17:39:56
I think if you asked Bobby Charlron he might disagree with you about Duncan Edwards.


2.) 18 Oct 2016 18:52:02
Duncan Edwards is a legend. He died young but what he did whilst he was alive was quality.


3.) 18 Oct 2016 19:04:15
Bobby Charlton used to say that there was nothing he could do better than Duncan Edwards.


4.) 18 Oct 2016 17:34:10
Oouch😆.


5.) 18 Oct 2016 19:47:57
Last month he was saying the club had three legends. What did Busby do to you in the last few weeks Moon?

{Ed041's Note - how he can Scholes or Giggs are not legends is beyond me.


6.) 18 Oct 2016 20:27:39
Shocking post, one of the worst I've seen on here in a while.


7.) 18 Oct 2016 20:29:08
Taken from the dictionary:

LEGEND - "an extremely famous or notorious person, especially in a particular field. "

Best, Law, Edwards red not legends?

What a load of bollix.

And this from the person who said, and I quote " Wayne Rooney is one of the most intelligent footballers I have ever seen".

Sorry Moonrinho, but you is talking nonsense.


8.) 18 Oct 2016 20:32:38
well there you have it. the moon has spoken.


9.) 18 Oct 2016 20:59:05
Oh Betty spot on.


10.) 18 Oct 2016 21:03:25
Not sure about that gds2 there are a few candidates from the couple of resident mad men that wear city or Liverpool underpants beneath their man utd shorts recently that could top moons effort.


11.) 18 Oct 2016 21:19:19
Bit of a mad post there moon. Charlton the only legend?

I'd say we have been extremely lucky to have many so called 'legends' at our great club.


12.) 18 Oct 2016 22:54:35
Ken,

I did nearly say worst post I've seen ignoring any from maze but I thought he might call me a troll again.


13.) 19 Oct 2016 03:28:25
Has my posts really been that bad GDS or do you just enjoy name dropping me?


 

 

06 Sep 2016 09:04:28
Turns out this Guardiola thing is taking a little longer than I originally imagined.

Bare with me though guys!

Jose Moonrinho

1.) 06 Sep 2016 13:15:48
You want us to get naked with you?

{Ed007's Note -


2.) 06 Sep 2016 14:44:35
Would you mind AJH? I'm a little insecure ;)


3.) 06 Sep 2016 10:19:24
Thanks for doing it, your analysis is usually a top read mate.


 

 

05 Sep 2016 16:40:33
It's crazy how a lot of you think Guardiola is very similar to Van Gaal.

The man has changed for the better every year for the past 5 or so seasons.

This evening I've set aside a few hours to write a post for the FNV part of the website all about how changes in tactics and what he is bringing to the Premier League this year.

I'm happy with Mourinho, I think they're both on a par to be honest. But I do think We'll struggle against City this week, Mourinho always struggles against Pep.

Jose Moonrinho

{Ed041's Note - I'm sure that will be interesting as I'm not convinced. I just don't see how you can make any claims like u have when he has had it easy to a large extent, in leagues where his teams were miles ahead of everyone else and the moment it looked like getting tricky he jumped. In fact id say he regressed Bayern myself.


1.) 05 Sep 2016 17:44:46
He is very similar to van Gaal.

Both play poshesshion hogging yawn yawn football.

And you have very sticky posters of the two of them hidden under your bed.


2.) 05 Sep 2016 17:57:58
jose
i agree with you on this i think pep is a top manager.


3.) 05 Sep 2016 18:08:00
Hes a top manager but not as good as Jose or until he proves it with a team like Man City.

I completely agree with Ed that Guardiola had it easy so far and actually made Bayern go down in quality.

I can see Ancelloti doing really well for Bayern and they will have a very good chance with champions league as Guardiola is no longer there.


4.) 05 Sep 2016 18:34:46
I don't think anyone is saying he's not a top manager but there are question marks about him.

Can he manage in a league of lower quality than those before but one which is way more competitve.

Can he manage a group of players that are not as good as what he's had before.

They are legitimate tests of his management.


5.) 05 Sep 2016 18:39:41
dsg
same as fergy then, must be a lot of questions about him .
to be fair people say the same about messi .


6.) 05 Sep 2016 18:51:00
Jose - You were banging on until the very end about how LVG was a tactical genius. I read your tactical assessment of LVG, which was very kind of you to post. I also recall a post you made just before he was moved on saying something like "Am I the only one who thinks LVG should stay", or words to that effect.

So what has changed since then? LVG hasn't managed anybody else and he was sacked, (which was not your decision) .

I appreciate anybody posting more inciteful comments, but I'm a bit skeptical personally about any "Assessments" you prepare considering your views and mine are polar opposites.

In my humble opinion it doesn't take a genius to know that Pep and LVG are very similar managers. Pep has just tried to do it with a bit more pace in the build up. It's like the Black and White TV was the predecessor to the Colour TV. There are obvious improvements but that's just because one is younger and time moves on.


7.) 05 Sep 2016 19:01:40
beast
can you not say that about 99% of the top managers.


8.) 05 Sep 2016 20:11:29
Difference between Pep and LVG,

Pep always had the players he needed.
LVG didnt.


9.) 05 Sep 2016 20:21:01
Didn't Jose Moonrinho also say a while back that Wayne Rooney was " one of the most intelligent players I have ever seen"?

Enough said.

PS please, this is not to start another debate about the England "manager". 😀.


10.) 05 Sep 2016 20:48:27
Fergie did it at Aberdeen a feat not repeated since. He build several title and cl winning teams over the best part of 30 years He won with poor teams with not a huge amount of investment particularly towards the end.
He Took on the challenge of new money at Chelsea and city and beat them to titles.
Yes he was far from perfect but has a lit less questions to answer than pep.
Pep is a really good coach imo but he has not overcome anything like the challenges Fergie overcame at United and Aberdeen .
He did no better than his predecessor at bayern he in fact did worse despite spending huge money.
He inherited a fantastic team at Barcelona that included the phenomenon that is messi. Those that followed him have broken records he set so I'm not sure that his success at Barcelona was down to him anymore than down to the players he had such as messi ineasta and xavi
He will win things at city but won't dominate like he did in the one horse town of the German league. He will not dominate in the EPL like Fergie did.
And I'm not sure he could coach Aberdeen to European glory and break the monopoly of the old firm.


11.) 05 Sep 2016 21:18:36
His 2010/ 11 and 2012/ 13 teams were certainly of a lower standard and to win the title in those season was nothing short of a masterstroke.

The only real question mark that hangs over ferguson is his record in europe which he himself has said is not as good as it should have been. The fact that pep beat us in two finals is quite ironic considering we are having this debate.


12.) 05 Sep 2016 21:23:01
The EPL will test peps resolve to th highest level! To the point where he may be looking good at xmas but we will see exactly how he has coped by may 2017.

In my humble opinion, for this season, he will struggle!


13.) 05 Sep 2016 21:43:29
At the time in Scotland Aberdeen had a good team and a bit of coin.
Could fergy do it in a tactical league like la liga, he had some good United teams but struggled at times with the tactical side of Europe. 2 CL in 25 year .
Will pep dominate the epl like fergy?
I doubt it, I'm not sure any manager or team will again to be honest .
If fergy was 10 years younger I'm not sure he would

You can make a case for fergy Jose pep to be great managers the truth is there records show that they are .

Or you can ignore what they have won pick holes in there achievements and make out they had it easy .
Forgot how many times I have read on this site Jose is only a good manager if he has sheds load of cash etc.

Ken
You say messi is a phenomenon and I agree, all though many would argue and have that his only that good in an amazing barce side .
Not that good for Argentina .
It's not that simple .

Madrid at the time had ronaldo and co, good managers there where some good teams in Europe but Barcelona dominated. So credit where it is due .

But the point is you can pick holes in anyone's reputation.


14.) 05 Sep 2016 21:43:58
Messi and co in their pomp. A truly great side nearly unbeatable at that time. With great players riding the crest of a wave Fergie should have won a couple more champion leagues but those 2 were not the ones he rues I'm sure.
97 and 01 were the 2 he should have won I think.


15.) 05 Sep 2016 21:43:29
At the time in Scotland Aberdeen had a good team and a bit of coin.
Could fergy do it in a tactical league like la liga, he had some good United teams but struggled at times with the tactical side of Europe. 2 CL in 25 year .
Will pep dominate the epl like fergy?
I doubt it, I'm not sure any manager or team will again to be honest .
If fergy was 10 years younger I'm not sure he would

You can make a case for fergy Jose pep to be great managers the truth is there records show that they are .

Or you can ignore what they have won pick holes in there achievements and make out they had it easy .
Forgot how many times I have read on this site Jose is only a good manager if he has sheds load of cash etc.

Ken
You say messi is a phenomenon and I agree, all though many would argue and have that his only that good in an amazing barce side .
Not that good for Argentina .
It's not that simple .

Madrid at the time had ronaldo and co, good managers there where some good teams in Europe but Barcelona dominated. So credit where it is due .

But the point is you can pick holes in anyone's reputation.


16.) 05 Sep 2016 21:43:58
Messi and co in their pomp. A truly great side nearly unbeatable at that time. With great players riding the crest of a wave Fergie should have won a couple more champion leagues but those 2 were not the ones he rues I'm sure.
97 and 01 were the 2 he should have won I think.


17.) 05 Sep 2016 22:22:57
Jesus, even I could manage Messi xavi iniesta busquetts and turn them into champions year in year out. Let's face it moorinho, if we had Messi xavi and iniesta in our team then the rest of the league will be playing for second spot.
At Bayern, he only had a depleted Dortmund side to beat and he again had incredible talent in the side.
City possess superb players in Aguerro Silva and De Bruyne, but this league is a lot more competitive than Spain or Germany. So it will be interesting how Pep does.
No one is questioning his ability. But you have to realise that Jose Mourinho is also a top class manager who won the CL in Portugal Italy and Spain. He won titles in all these countries and in England. This guy is different class.


18.) 05 Sep 2016 22:45:47
Sch
Like I said they are all good managers .
Messi and co don't win the league every year tho so it's maybe not as easy as people think.
How many titles could you of won with ronaldo and co? More than the one they have managed in the 8 year he has been at the club .
If pep had dominated with the great players at Madrid would people say anyone can win a title with ronaldo and bale etc?

I'm playing devils advocate a bit, but you can pick holes in anyone's record if you want to.


19.) 05 Sep 2016 22:42:53
The following doesn't mean I think pep isn't a good coach he is. But a great one not yet it's not something he has proved beyond doubt. After inheriting a team with Ronaldinho, Deco, Iniesta etc with Messi and co coming up later even moyes would struggle not to win with such talent at his disposal. Then going to the one team show that is the Bundesliga with bayern.

Jose on the other hand has achieved just as much with way fewer resources. His champions League winning Porto team beat all the big guns on the road to the title including SAF let's see how the season goes not just the weekend game before deciding who is better ultimately.


 

 

 

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25 May 2016 16:57:43
People do realise Rooney is only on £150K basic don't they? When he signed his new deal he got insane on target bonuses but I don't see why a similar thing couldn't be worked out at Everton.

I'm sure the likes of Lukaku are on £100K+.

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21 Jul 2015 00:01:02
The more I come on here the more I see a lot of posters talk absolutely rubbish.

He's absolutely brilliant.

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16 Jul 2015 12:10:46
I wouldn't object to the idea, as long as he has experience around him I think he'll be fine.

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06 Jul 2015 00:05:40
He's better than coleman, one of the few fullbacks who is incredible defensively (has the aerial presence of a central defender) and is very Brazilian in his adventures up field

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05 Sep 2017 01:19:44
Wilson is named because he is 22 before the end of the first registration phase.

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04 May 2017 08:14:51
Lingard is hands down the single most important player in the Mourinho way of playing.

Read some of the analysis on Lingard and what Mourinho's asking him to do, without him we'd be a lot worse off than we are.

He may not bag 20 goals and 10 assists but without him zlatan and Rashford wouldn't be nearly as effective.

I'd go as far to say that Lingard would start at almost any top team in the league for his tactical adaptability and the fact he never let's the manager down.

I'd sell Rashford, Martial and Pogba before I sell Lingard.

Jose Moonrinho

{Ed025's Note - really?..half decent player who can be great one game and awful the next for me, a poor mans ryan giggs who would not get anywhere near the chelsea, city or spurs squad mate..


 

 

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30 Apr 2017 23:41:55
You really are a clown aren't you.

If less than 2 thirds of the squad are fit for almost the entire season at any one time then they will accumulate fatigue. That's a 'basic' fact.

with all due respect you haven't got a clue what you're talking about when it comes to fitness coaching and fatigue accumulation.

You may have noticed I haven't posted on here much over the past few years, well I've been successfully working my way up the coaching ladder having passed my UEFA B License in 2015.

As such, I've attended an incredible amount of seminars regarding player fitness and the dangers of fatigue on the body.

As I mentioned United have played 1.6 games per week. 9 in April alone.

6 games in 4 weeks would have the players well into the red zone, 9 games in 4 weeks puts them in an incredibly dangerous situation especially relating to muscle weakness.

I'm going off the facts provided by UEFA seminars, where are yours coming from?

Jose Moonrinho

{Ed001's Note - you are calling me a clown yet you only have a B license? Come back when you have your pro and then you can crow about it. In fact don't, because it would still be irrelevant. We are talking about fitness, not tactics. UEFA's coaching courses are not going to teach you about fitness training, they are not physio or fitness coaching courses. You don't even understand what the courses you are doing are! Go and get some qualifications on the fitness coaching side of things, then come back and tell me you know what you are talking about.

It does not matter how many are fit, in fact, while they are off they are removing most of the causes of fatigue, so coming back fresh and fit. Any player will tell you that they come back raring to go. So your 'basic' fact is a crock of excuses from someone with no experience of the game, talking out of his arse making excuses.

Those facts you are talking about, I have all of them, having attended a number of coaching seminars, spend my days conversing with coaches, having all the scientific papers they are based on and read through them. However, I have read the papers they are based on, rather than taken someone else's reading of them. I also read through a number of them on other sports, to get a broader idea, rather than the narrow minded view football takes. Oh and I take the time to discuss this on a regular basis with fitness coaches and physios from a number of sports, at the top level, not just a narrow focus on football. It is a shame more football coaches don't take the time to look at other sports, they would learn a lot.

One day, when you understand basic science, you will see that the only thing that matters is how many games in a row they play, and the accumulation of games over a season, without a break. None of your players have played an excessive number in either case. It doesn't matter if Jose has 15 or 50 players to choose from as he always favours a smaller, tighter squad of 16 or 17 players anyway. He has been able to rest and rotate throughout the season, even Zlatan had a few games off during the season. Not even De Gea has been playing every game. Not one player has an excuse for being fatigued other than if the training, rest and recuperation is wrong.

The 'fatigue' at Man Utd is all mental, stemming from Jose and his methods. This is exactly what happened at Chelsea, leading to his sacking. The end of the season, when they had streaked away with the title, he was constantly moaning about fatigue, even though they had a big lead and he could have rotated as he saw fit. Instead he continued with the moans, the whining, the excuses, the bickering behind the scenes, all putting pressure on the players.

By the way, if the training was better, the players would be fitter and there would be less injuries. So again, there is a very large likelihood that Jose's methods are not just contributing to the fatigue of the players, but that they are also increasing the injury problems. However a lot of the problems are a football-wide problem, contributed to by these coaching courses, which have little to do with fitness coaching, which is why you need a specialist fitness coach. Footballers are trained to be power athletes, sprinters, short bursts of pace, not enough endurance work, because it is the boring long runs etc without the ball. Understandable that it is not done at a young age, as it is boring, but you don't build up endurance and stamina without long boring exercise. You have to do long runs, you have to be pushed past the red zone, or the moment you hit the red zone your body is running on empty and you pick up injuries and struggle to recover. That is why those players who have been cross country runners etc as kids will carry a higher level of fitness throughout their career. Or players like Kante will play every week, covering far more ground at a much higher intensity, yet very rarely get injured. They are simply fitter than the rest. They are not freaks of nature, they just built up basic fitness and work hard to keep themselves fit.}


 

 

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30 Apr 2017 19:28:29
Behave ed001,

United have played 56 games already this season, with a guarantee of it being 62 (potentially 63) the highest amount of games any team has ever played (tied with United in 99 and Liverpool in 2001) in a single season.

For a fit squad that would be some challenge playing 1.6 games per week, factor in travel to places such as Russia and Ukraine (meaning the team have less time to recover - believe it or not there are recovery procedures in place and sitting on a plane isn't part of it) .

Now let's look at the fact that United have played 56 games, throughout that period we've had 65 injuries where playes have missed games, 46 of those injuries have been for 2 or more games.

The fixture congestion got heavy in early February, since February United have had over 30 injuries where players have missed 2 or more games.

It can be argued that our lack of clinical striking is the reason we've played so many games (anderlecht for example, if we finished the game in the first leg we could rest players for the 2nd, etc. ) .

However, the fact of the matter is an incredibly deep 99 United side and 01 Liverpool side both struggled to accumulate wins as their respective seasons on WITH A FULL SQUAD.

Yet United will have played the 2nd highest amount of games ever (Premier League era) with almost a 3rd of the squad missing since February and 9 of the 25 currently with mid-long term injuries (2+ more games) .

So how can anybody be shocked with the current results?

It's our fault we're in this situation (arguably) but there isn't an awful low we can do about what we're seeing as it's simply out of our hands; we can't afford to rest players if we want to be in the Champions League next season. Yet we may not get there at all unless we rest players.

Jose Moonrinho

{Ed001's Note - your usual nonsense. How many players have played 56 matches? Go on list them all. Or how many have played over 50? This is just a pointless discussion as you are deflecting with rubbish, rather than looking at the basic facts. It matter not a jot how many games the squad plays if the players are not playing every game. What matters is how many the individual players play and they are not playing 56 games.}


 

 

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30 Apr 2017 14:49:02
All i see is boring posts about the same thing week in, week out.

We looked like a team without any defenders that has played over 50 games this season.

Jose Moonrinho

{Ed001's Note - is that rather than a team that finished in the top four last season and then went out and outspent every other team in Europe? Over 50 games? If that is the pathetic kind of excuse you are going to use, then you are clutching at straws. Not one of those players had any reason to be tired. 50 games is nothing, teams used to manage 60-70 games a season with a lot less access to scientific training methods and no rotation to rest them. Why has 50 games suddenly become an acceptable excuse for Jose's Pulis-like tactics?}