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16 Mar 2024 17:59:03
Evening as always Ed.

Is there any intetest in Viktor Gyokores?

If not from us, from any other PL side?

Thanks.

KurtisHaywood

{Ed002's Note - Manchester United have sent scouts but they have an interest in another Sporting player. There is interest from elsewhere in the Premier League.}


1.) 17 Mar 2024 12:46:09
I imagine we are looking at inacio maybe Hjulmand?


2.) 17 Mar 2024 15:50:01
Looking at the recent Sporting lineup, could be Inacio, Diamonde or Marcus Edwards. Or a n other.


3.) 18 Mar 2024 09:32:29
That narrows it down Wallace :D.


4.) 18 Mar 2024 11:55:00
Ed02 - which Sporting player do we have an interest in?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Goncalo Inacio but others have been scouted as well.}


 

 

14 Feb 2024 19:24:41
A few places reporting that Dan Ashworth is close to agreeing a deal to become sporting director. Ed has anything changed regarding this? Also, how is he regarded within his role compared to others within the industry?

KurtisHaywood

{Ed002's Note - He remains an option if compensation can be agreed. He would be a reasonable option.}


1.) 14 Feb 2024 22:43:18
Are they also looking to bring in a recruitment special-ist alongside him?

{Ed002's Note - Yes.}


2.) 15 Feb 2024 06:38:40
Good Morning Ed002

Hope all is well. Is there a clear sum for compensation in these things or an arbitrary number the two clubs need to agree on.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, Manchester United will be told what it is, or may have been already.}


3.) 15 Feb 2024 08:45:00
ED002,

Whobin your opinion would be the best option?

{Ed002's Note - Paul Mitchell would have been.}


4.) 15 Feb 2024 09:16:02
Ed002, "reasonable" option sounds like you feel there would be a better option, or am I reading too much into that?

{Ed002's Note - Paul Mitchell.}


5.) 15 Feb 2024 09:50:51
Ed is he definitely going to Roma?

{Ed002's Note - He is not interested in taking what Manchester United have offered him. Could be a huge mistake,}


6.) 15 Feb 2024 09:58:52
Mitchell was the name that lots of us wanted for years and it would be great if he was brought in. I imagine he will not want to take the role below Sporting Director and rumour is he pulled out of the running a while back (maybe realised he was not being looked at) .
I am excited about Ashworth if it comes off however, one of the top in the position, appears to have a detailed knowledge of players all over the world. Looking at what he has done at previous clubs we should be excited by his appointment.
I would expect we also bring in someone below him on recruitment to form a strong partnership with Berrada.

{Ed002's Note - His knowledge came from the scouts and recruitment team at Brighton.}


7.) 15 Feb 2024 11:08:09
Hi Ed002, do you think there is a chance of us recruiting any of that team from Brighton? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - No, they are largely no longer at Brighton.}


8.) 15 Feb 2024 11:24:23
Thanks for all info Ed002. Do you think Ashworth will return to Brighton to tempt Sam Jewell to United as head of recruitment? Seen rumours that Chelsea also looking to sign him….

{Ed002's Note - No.}


9.) 19 Feb 2024 17:32:10
As Sporting director Mitchell woukd have responsibilities he hasn’t had experience in before. I think Ashworth is the best option for the sporting director role. He’s widely regarded as gold standard for the role.


10.) 21 Feb 2024 09:20:13
A huge mistake by Mitchell ed?

{Ed002's Note - No, Manchester United.}


11.) 21 Feb 2024 15:06:25
Thanks Ed. I presume they are not giving him the position he wants.

{Ed002's Note - No - so he is not interested.}


 

 

02 Jan 2024 21:04:51
Apologies Ed if its been covered.

Rumours the club have opted against triggering Varanes one year contract extension. Could you provide some insights into potential targets in his position? Covered to death but will these targets likely change based on ETH potentially leaving and SJR coming in.

KurtisHaywood

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any changes to targets at this time and Jim Ratcliffe will not himself be deciding on which players the club will chase after.}


1.) 03 Jan 2024 09:41:02
Thanks for info Ed002.

Do you think that the person who will decide upon transfer targets will be appointed as soon as part investment officially cleared by authorities?

(Stil looking like Paul Mitchell?! Loads of rumours about SDB’s admiration of Dan Ashworth! )

{Ed002's Note - Paul Mitchell is available. Dan Ashworth is contracted to Newcastle. Manchester United have an idea of what they need to do in January but the summer will be more significant.}


2.) 03 Jan 2024 10:39:32
Thanks for taking the time to post swift reply Ed002, much appreciated!

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


3.) 03 Jan 2024 11:50:07
I'd imagine January will be about clearing the decks as much as possible. Move players on who aren't part of the long term future. That would free up squad space and create the financial leeway needed to bring in new players in the summer.

Oddly being completely out of Europe might give United more freedom to move players on in January as, "in theory" at least, we shouldn't need as deep a squad in terms of numbers with less games and traveling. Although if the injury problems persist then that might remain a theory that doesn't play out in practice.

I imagine January incomings might be restricted to loans for two reasons. Firstly prime targets are rarely available mid-season and if they are they tend to come at a premium transfer fee. Secondly, I can't imagine that any new potential DoF will be able to have any input for January signings. Which means that the club risk signing a player on a long term deal who by the summer might not be part of the new set ups long term plan.

Therefore, loans or temporary solutions seems a much more likely outcome if anyone.

Rumours of lots of players possibly leaving, Martial, Donny, Greenwood, Varane, Sancho, Pellistri, Reguilon, McTominay, Maguire, and Hannibal. Have all been linked with moves away either permanently or on loan.

None of them seriously have a future at the club bar maybe Hannibal. With his move away being a loan to gain regular minutes and continue his development.

Casemiro has also been linked, but given than he and Mainoo are the only competent players at CDM I doubt the club will let him go in January. With a summer move more likely for him if he is to leave. I also doubt McTominay will be allowed to leave unless we see another midfielder join in January given the lack of options we have in that position. Again a summer move seems more likely.

As for incomings, Timo Werner and Thomas Muller on loan deals have been linked. Both seems to have an air of believability to them, Werner probably more so than Muller. While probably not anyone's first choice both probably would offer more to the team during the second half of this season than Martial will.

Other than that I haven't seen any other mooted deals that even remotely sound likely. We won't be spending 70m plus on the likes of João Neves, Antonio Silva or Michael Olise who are three names we've been linked with over the past week. Those sort of deals for those sort of players will more than likely be summer options. You rarely see a key player for a side move for a massive fee in January.

One player I'd like us to seriously look at who would be available is André from Fluminense. He's the sort of CDM that EtH likes and has tried to sign previously. He's also a profile of player our squad is missing and drastically needs to be able to control games. While due to the Brazilian season finishing in December, the January window is actually the preferred time for Brazilian clubs to sell their players.

Unfortunately any links we have had with him seem to be tenuous and without real substance. He's also the kind of smart signing that seems beyond our club, who scout 900 RB's from around the world to go and sign AWB after he had a good game against us that one time.

Fingers crossed though. For me a great January window will see 5 or 6 players who have minimal impact on the team leave. With André maybe on a permanent deal for 20-30m, along with a loan deal for Muller or Werner.

Start clearing the decks, bring in temporary cover upfront without eating in to the budget or permanently signing a substandard player. While bringing in a relatively cheap but very smart option in midfield that if he hits the ground running will have a real positive impact for the rest of the season. While if he takes a little time to settle then it's not really a big deal and means he should be ready to make his mark from the start of next season.


 

 

08 Jul 2022 12:24:08
Hi Ed, hope you're good.

I understand from reading here that United have offered a "low" bid for Antony and I appreciate he has been spoken about a lot on this page.

With Ajax now signing Bergwijn, does this open up the door to his exit? Has anything changed with the situation or is our low offer the only one that has been put on the table.

KurtisHaywood

{Ed002's Note - They are unrelated, they play in different positions. Again, if Manchester United want to persuade a club to sell, they must put forward an acceptable offer.}


1.) 08 Jul 2022 13:22:01
Out of curiosity Ed, why is this a constant issue for United? Is it down to arrogance and trying to get the player to push for a move so the selling club are in a weaker position or the amateurish way we communicate with other clubs?

It seems for years we have been putting in low bids or bids which are well short of another clubs valuation despite the fact we are in talks with said club.

{Ed002's Note - It is not a good negotiating start point with a low ball offer.}


2.) 08 Jul 2022 14:44:31
Especially when negotiating for more than 1 player at the club ?.


 

 

22 Apr 2022 10:28:28
Happy Friday all

I must say as dreadful as this season has been, I am optimistic about the EtH appointment. Providing he is given the tools and freedom needed over the summer to recruit the right people, I expect that we could see an identity change in the way we play quite quickly.

I do want to probe an Ed if possible. RR said in his post match interview that a rebuild is required because of contracts expiring and that there may 6 - 10 new players.

Would this be over a number of transfer windows? or is the overhaul that extensive that we could see this over the course over the summer.

KurtisHaywood

{Ed002's Note - Six players are out of contract in the summer although one may be forced to stay another year through an option the club has. Others are to be sold and replaced.}


1.) 22 Apr 2022 11:11:14
Is the club considering enforcing the extension on Matic Ed? That would seem very unprofessional after he announced that he would not be taking up the option.

{Ed002's Note - No, Matic is not one of the out of contract players, but he is being allowed to leave as well.}


2.) 22 Apr 2022 11:17:11
Hi Ed, would I be right in saying Chong is the player who may be forced to stay due to the option the club have with the other 5 with contracts expiring being Grant, Pogba, Mata, Lingard and Cavani?

Now that the new manager has been announced, do you have any idea on which other players may be looking to leave/ the club may be looking to sell in the summer?

Thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, Chong may be force dto stay. I very much think that the new coach will look to revise the list of those leaving from what it is expected to be at present. By how much I don't know. Decisions will need to be taken about the likes of Garner, Telles, Wan-Bissaka, Dalot, Tuanzebe and others. Youngsters will need to assessed.}


3.) 22 Apr 2022 10:47:14
Ed, is Paul Mitchell joining United?

{Ed002's Note - There is no agreement with any club regarding Paul Mitchell but he will be leaving in the summer.}


4.) 22 Apr 2022 10:50:40
I think it’s probably likely to be 5 or 6 signings and then players coming back from loan being added to the squad, the obvious one being Garner but you’d assume Donny will get a chance as well.


5.) 22 Apr 2022 11:40:22
The squad is bloated anyway we need to reducw the size of it, we ain't going to be in the UCL and we could end up having no europe at all.

Cavani
Pogba
Chong
Matic
Mata
Grant
Lingard

All leaving on frees, then yoy have the likes of

Jones
Bailly
Tunzube
Then awb?
Dalot?
Williams?
Henderson?
Martial?
Pereria?
Greenwood?

I can't see at least 10 leaving through sales ans frees, martial williams and awb will prob stay along with dalot

Going to be a very busy summer.


6.) 22 Apr 2022 13:48:57
In my opinion I think we could see at least 10 players leave the club with the 5 who’s contracts are expiring + potentially Chong, Matic, Jones, Pereira, Tuanzebe, Williams, Bailly, Martial also leaving, with the latter 5 players ideally generating an extra £50-60m to add to the transfer budget.

Henderson could also leave either on loan or permanently + a few youngsters will go out on loan.

In terms of signings however, I don’t see there being more than 5.

Van de Beek and Garner will likely rejoin the squad to fill gaps in midfield as I can’t see us going to the market for more than one midfielder. In addition to a deep lying midfielder, other areas that will need addressing are a back up GK if Henderson leaves, a left sided CB, a CF with Cavani and (probably) Martial leaving and hopefully a special-ist RW (preferably left footed) as all our wingers prefer the left side.

I could see Sam Johnstone returning on a free as a back up GK. I’d love Nunez and Neves to join as the CF and CM with someone like Raphinha or Antony as the RW. If something like this happens I can’t see there being much left in the budget for a CB (I see CM, CF and RW as higher priority positions) so we may have to look at the lower end of the market for a CB. In terms of free agents Rudiger would be the absolute dream but as that is unlikely we would maybe have to settle for someone such as Zagadou and revisit the CB situation in a year.


7.) 23 Apr 2022 08:40:35
Whatever happens, I've actually got a little hope about the summer. As long as united start next season with 11 players on the pitch who actually care, tackle, structured and want to play for the shirt then I'm happy. Just feels like I'm back in the 80s but back then we had players that cared. but I'm hopeful for Eric.


8.) 23 Apr 2022 21:52:37
At least in the 80s we had Robbo at the club.


 

 

 

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21 Mar 2024 12:17:45
I know ETH is the hot topic at the minute, rightfully or wrongfully, but I read some interesting stats about his domestic cup performances I thought were worth sharing.

ETH is 16-2 in domestic cup competitions since joining, with a win rate of 89.5%. For comparison, Pep has a 82.4% win rate in domestic cups whilst Klopp is 67.4%.

We have the potential to reach our third domestic final out of four in 2 years if we beat Coventry. This is the same amount of domestic cup finals we have reached across all managers since Ferguson's retirement.

Its also worth noting that in 2024 ETH has a 75% win rate, having W9 / D1 / L2.

So I guess the question is, whether you like him or not, is the speculation about ETH justified?

KurtisHaywood

1.) 21 Mar 2024 12:51:26
We have lost 20 league matches in under 2 seasons under eth. More than any other manager since fergie.
We finished bottom of our cl group this session for 1st time.
Based on those numbers questioning him is justified as is replacing him
We are currently 6th in the league.
For every ying there is a yang.
Some want him to stay some don't there are arguments for both.
People in the know will make the decision either way I'll support that decision. I know what i'd prefer.


2.) 21 Mar 2024 12:56:30
I saw the same thing Kurtis, and he had a very similar record at Ajax.

I nearly posted it yesterday before thinking it gives the doomsayers the opportunity to tell us that ETH is a cup manager.

I think the speculation is very unjust and the conversation has been done to death on here.


3.) 21 Mar 2024 13:05:35
Ron Atkinson won 2 fa cups and lost a league cup final in 3 seasons. It was largely recognised that he was not the man to bring the club forward. He was replaced by fergie. Good call that.


4.) 21 Mar 2024 13:17:53
The key there tumble is IN THREE SEASONS.


5.) 21 Mar 2024 13:28:38
No DB the key is he was fired despite doing well in domestic cups. That's not the benchmark.


6.) 21 Mar 2024 13:35:03
I think the primary driver for INEOS is to have a manager in place who is primarily a coach who can get the best out of all his players and happily know his place in the hierarchy - ie big decisions being left to the Sporting Director and getting the most out of the players that have, driven by data and analysis of how they fit into the long term plan and culture, been given to him.

Is ETH prepared to accept this new role - and does he have the personality to carry it out?


7.) 21 Mar 2024 15:45:25
Wallace I don't see eth's time here as a total failure at all. There has been lots of good things imo.
But I don't see it even getting a whole lot better and I don't think he has what it takes to close the gap on our rivals no matter what the structure.
There are stats that are good but others that are damning so we can only base our opinions on our own gut feeling and we all need to realise our opinions are based on little or no intimate knowledge of the situation so there is no right or wrong.
Perhaps all the players really like working under him and maybe they are all really happy and can see great progress in training that some of us don't see on the pitch yet. Perhaps sjr and team really see a great future with eth at the helm and can see foundations he is laying down. They are based place to judge
Maybe eth is delighted with a new structure above him and less input into transfers and strategy but he might also find that a bridge too far.
I think everybody on here wanted a new structure with subject matter experts in key roles. Now that they are close to being in place everybody wants to tell them how to do their jobs. Who to sell who to sack who to buy who to keep.
I think we all need to trust in the judgement of the new team and give it a year or 2 to see if the decisions they make this summer can see us showing consistent improvement. If we are showing that then we will be in the right track. If not they will need to pivot.
We have the DOF we wanted a new ceo a new team around the DOF.
I'll be giving a chance for them to do their job and seeing how it goes.
We have what nearly everyone wanted
But it turns out it's not what people wanted at all because they only want what they want.


8.) 21 Mar 2024 16:47:53
That’s really big of you Ken, prepared to give them a chance. Will mean a lot to them.


9.) 21 Mar 2024 17:17:54
I'm glad you recognise that ports I think it's important to let them have time to implement their ideas before pushing judgement as a customer, after all they are the experts.


10.) 21 Mar 2024 19:27:33
I look forward to hearing how your first performance review goes with them!


11.) 21 Mar 2024 21:42:03
That will be confidential.


12.) 21 Mar 2024 21:47:18
I think his performances in cups shows he is capable of setting up a team to win every match. But approach to cup games is different to league games. SAF had the same approach to any game. Saw an old clip yesterday recirculating where Neville interviews SAF and he talks about being a goal down and getting players in the box to score and risk being countered but the risk is worth the reward.

ETH showed on Sunday he is prepared to throw players on to get back in the game but you have to in a cup or you’re out. In the league it’s to easy to “not lose” first. Be braver, go for wins. You’d be best winning 3 out of 5 then winning 1, drawing 4.


13.) 21 Mar 2024 23:29:42
Shrewd observation Ports.

But ironically, I think we’ve seen what happens now we’ve ditched the double pivot of McFred under OGS. Far too open, far too easily cut through and we concede for fun.

Think ETH has got a little confused this year on what we are supposed to be.


14.) 22 Mar 2024 05:53:49
Think the midfield issue is caused by the back four, imo I think he wants a defence to be capable of playing ten / fifteen yards higher up the pitch which closes that midfield space straight away! Unfortunately he can’t with Evans Maguire lindelof etc as they’ll be exposed! He looks like he’s caught in the middle of it at the minute!


15.) 22 Mar 2024 10:39:33
Eth has achieved what he has achieved with the worst assembled squad in most of our living histories.
Give him another season, if we are tracking in the right direction after Christmas, give him an extension. Eth is not the problem, it has been the squad, backroom staff etc etc etc.

In short, it isn't the manager. Both Klopp and pep would have struggled with our squad over the last few years.

Done to death, move on.


16.) 22 Mar 2024 11:53:36
Speed of CBs, afraid to get caught.

When midfield push up, cbs too often than not don't push up with them. Leaves a lot of space in the middle.

You can see what ETH wants them to do, we just don't have the players to do it. You can see that, when martinez is there, it makes a massive difference.

And then, when there's that much space in behind, Casemiro looks worse than he actually is.

ETH is a good coach, but square pegs in round holes never work.


17.) 22 Mar 2024 13:16:55
A valid point Angel, but on square pegs, it didn't hurt the Dutch 1970s team including Cruyff, who played. well, pretty much wherever he wanted by all accounts in a loose, more fluid 4-3-3 where the entire team were able to move around and fill the holes accordingly. Probably just great players all round although the midfield was constructed of three key players with specific roles - a tackler (Wim Jansen), runner (Johan Neeskens) and a passer (Willem van Hanegem) . Pep's Barcelona were similar.


18.) 22 Mar 2024 14:11:56
Spenno, when you have the players, as you said above, you can then be more flexible. We do not have the personnel at the club to do what ETH wants.

However, give him the right amount of time and the correct resource, we will be able to.


19.) 22 Mar 2024 15:48:10
You're right Angel, I jest. The thought of telling 3/ 4 of our squad to go out and play where they wanted fills me with terror.


20.) 22 Mar 2024 20:05:28
Same here mate ?.


 

 

20 Mar 2024 10:50:14
There has been lots of conversations about whether ETH needs to be replaced in the summer, and whilst my opinion is he shouldn’t, I thought I would take some time to discuss a manager who I think could be a good candidate and may be very overlooked. Funnily enough, we are going to face his Coventry side in the FA cup semi-final.

Being from Coventry, its hard to not see and admire the Mark Robins effect. For those who aren’t aware, Coventry have been a club with more off-field drama than Manchester United. Over the last ten years, Coventry City has navigated a series of off-field issues, including financial struggles, relegations, points deductions, ownership disputes, and challenges related to their home ground. A notable issue has been the ongoing dispute over the previous Ricoh Arena, leading to ground-sharing arrangements, first with Northampton and later with Birmingham City. These situations have impacted the club's finances and relationships with fans.

Since 2017, Coventry City has experienced a remarkable ascent from League Two to the Championship. In the 2017-18 season, they secured promotion from League Two via the playoffs. The following season (2018-19), they stabilised in League One, finishing 8th. Their momentum continued into the 2019-20 season, winning League One and earning promotion to the Championship, where they have been competing since. Last year Coventry reached the play-off final, narrowly losing to Luton. This year they are back in the race for a play off place and have reached the FA cup semi-final, all with the second lowest wage budget in the league.

All of this, has been achieved with Mark Robins at the helm. He has proven himself as a skilled and adaptable manager capable of overcoming various challenges. Coventry will have been to Wembley four times since 2017. His tenure at Coventry, marked by a long-standing managerial partnership with Adi Viveash, showcases not only his tactical acumen but also his dedication to long-term development and he forges strong connections between the club, its players, and the fans. Coventry always lose key players, but almost always bounce back with their replacements playing fluid and attacking football as seen against Wolves. Whatever the situation, Mark Robins still manages to achieve success.

Given his Manchester United background, understanding of the club's ethos as an ex-player, and demonstrated managerial prowess at Coventry amidst ownership struggles and logistical challenges, Mark Robins for me presents an intriguing option for a managerial role at a larger club for a managerial role at a larger club, with the potential to bring a blend of tactical knowledge, resilience, and club identity understanding that could resonate well with Manchester United's aspirations and values. Its a wonder why he hasn't been approached by Premier League clubs already.

KurtisHaywood

1.) 20 Mar 2024 11:30:49
Interesting post and candidate Kurtis. I personally feel ETH should be given another season with the new management change coming. I know some disagree and Ed is convinced ETH will be replaced at the end of this season. The worrying thing for me is Southgate being considered, allegedly.


2.) 20 Mar 2024 12:44:03
I quite like De Zerbi. I think he may get a top job soon enough.


3.) 20 Mar 2024 13:54:54
Good post kurtis. indeed Robbins has done an amazing job at Coventry.
His next move if he makes one will be crucial. There are a lot of prem clubs that could do a lot worse.
Probably the best young English manager outside of howe who had a very similar rise through the league often under difficult circumstances.
It would be a big risk for united to take a chance on him but he is possibly one to watch for the future. I'd love to see him get Coventry up it would be a real fairy tale story.


4.) 20 Mar 2024 13:58:07
I like de Zerbi but not overly convinced a top team would take him. For every incredible result and top performance they put in, a stinker is just round the corner with some pretty awful results this season. Probably the result of Brighton playing in Europe and the lack of depth, as often happens when clubs have a blinding season then find themselves in with the big boys. Maybe I'm completely wrong on him though.


5.) 20 Mar 2024 14:07:59
I think eth should be given time and backed properly with a summer window. He was never given a Ferrari to start with and takes time to build a great team. We have seen glimpses of what he can do but injuries and player related issues have made his job very difficult this year. The fact that they are talking about everything but nothing on backing him publicly is not a good sign.

Unfortunately, its Southgate the more I think about it given his relationship with the new ownership and DOF and also being available contract wise.


6.) 20 Mar 2024 16:11:02
Southgate? Lol. West Ham maybe.


7.) 20 Mar 2024 17:57:18
Robins has a lot of qualities, been watching him for a while, sensible when talking, smart tactically. If he doesn’t get Coventry up, somewhere who stayed up in the Prem could or should consider him.

For our job, if ETH goes, I would still like Simeone to be considered.


8.) 20 Mar 2024 18:56:32
Redman

The likes of Simeone and Zidane would never take a united job if they don't have a major say in who comes in and who goes. Simeone at Athletico it is his way or the highway and he would never come, no chance.

They are too established to be playing second and why do it at this point in their careers. These are guys who will dictate terms if you want to get them and not the other way round especially given the managerial vacancies coming up.


9.) 21 Mar 2024 12:37:17
Simeone has to be up there with some of the worst shouts. His sides play mind numbing football I would rather take Mourinho back.


 

 

13 Dec 2023 22:33:54
Interesting quote on Sly Sports News earlier quoting Einstein regarding ETH and the managers post Fergie era.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"

8 managers in the time since Fergie left. I think we need to allow a bad season under ETH and give him a chance under a solid structure. We can then judge his capabilities. The only constant in our downfall has been the same players. As much as we talk about his signings, the spine of the team remains unchanged.

KurtisHaywood

1.) 14 Dec 2023 08:15:55
For me eth has shown he has very little idea how to get a tune out of this lot and the money he has spent and the return he has for that is frankly firing material anywhere else on earth. the squad is awful true but the reasoning that if we keep eth and allow him a new squad (billions? ) he could win the league is like planning your retirement on winning the lottery. Having said that sjr won’t be spending 1.25 billion without knowing who his manager is going to be and probably signed in principle.


2.) 14 Dec 2023 09:23:05
What a load of rubbish one third, he got a great tune last year! Again so many of us are so blinkered, there’s huge mitigating circumstances we’re currently dealing with if you don’t want to see that it’s fine but don’t take rubbish!
The squad isn’t awful it’s decimated and he’s now relying on Jose and ole players predominantly bar a couple of his own!
18 months in and some are throwing him to the wolves.


3.) 14 Dec 2023 09:51:37
Chris

Page is toxic Atm and no point. Same characters who used to have a go at Fergie not being good enough anymore.

We are limping into Anfield and did not realize we have scored once in the last 8 years going there.

However, It will be eth fault though afterwards no matter what, given the current noise. Its on him to get a reserve team to beat Liverpool or else he is a terrible coach, tactics wrong, selection wrong.

Only if he got those things right Liverpool will lay down and be clueless and we will win. its all on eth.

Its eth fault our front 3 looked like 3 kids playing against men vs Bayern. Not a single shot registered by any of them. Not having a go at the front 3 but the narrative and the noise.


4.) 14 Dec 2023 10:29:20
I for one am not expecting to beat Liverpool. To do so would need a miracle, albeit not entirely impossible.

All I want is for the team to show some real heart, win, lose or draw

Can’t ask for anything more than that.


5.) 14 Dec 2023 11:39:07
People forget Klopp finished 8th and 4th for the two following years and weren't realistically challenging until his fourth year.

Arteta finished 8th in his first two seasons and then 5th and are again now only challenging after his fourth year.

ETH had a good first year and now just because the going gets tough the usual fickle fans are calling for his head? The same fans expect things here and now and clearly have no understanding of transition periods, or football for that matter.


6.) 14 Dec 2023 12:07:41
My major complaint with Ten Hag is that we concede the same type of goal every week, we are always battered through the middle of the park. Been the same in nearly every single game this season.

I have sympathy for the injuries, but you watch Newcastle and Spurs who have had similar luck. Whilst the results have been up and down, you could see what systems they are playing. With us, no one has a clue.

Ultimately it is a squad game, and the whole squad should be playing the same way. We don't have that here. We have lost more games than we have played, that in itself is inexcusable given we are in December.


7.) 14 Dec 2023 14:49:53
Sorry Chris and Ahmed I honestly can’t tell if you’re agreeing with me or not? Still you’re entitled to your opinion.


8.) 14 Dec 2023 15:28:14
Ten hag is trying to play a very aggressive formation, which it feels like we don't have the right players for. It has resulted at times with us getting caught with big open spaces in midfield, especially when we fail to look after the ball.

If you look at city, they play similarly, with rodri in a single pivot and 2 hard working 10s ahead of him.

On one hand he is trying to play his way. And expose the players who are not good enough to play his system. The alternative is to play a double pivot. Which would be more secure, but is moving away from the system he is trying to implement.

I would like to see mctominay replaced with a better ball player. Eriksen is a big loss for ball retention through our midfield. He was knitting back to front last year. We have missed Eriksen, martinez, shaw, cassemiro, varane (injury and fallout) have all been out of this team and it is a huge impact on how EtH wants to play.


9.) 14 Dec 2023 15:51:32
Losing more games than we've played! That's some going Caolan, i didn't realise it was so bad, lol.

What he did last season means he deserves some time in my opinion. If we get to the end of the season, haven't made it into the champions league or shown any improvement in performance when players are back from injury then that's the time to look at it again. Until then let's get behind him!


10.) 14 Dec 2023 17:16:07
No Newcastle and spurs are not going through the same crisis don’t believe the media spin, far from it! Spurs lost 4/ 5 because they lost their centre half and number 10! We’ve got about13/ 14 unavailable players, some have become terrible overnight because according to some on here they’re not starters!

18 months in come on!
Let’s get behind him!

The klopp arteta comparisons are again wide of the mark because guess what, they finished in those positions without the injury crisis, off field antics of players etc etc!


11.) 14 Dec 2023 18:05:45
The problem facing ETH is that a new DoF with proper control will want and rightly should want a manager who fits with his vision and philosophy.

I don't particularly want Ten Hag gone, what I do want is a football club run properly from the top down and if we do get our new CEO and DoF then they eighty need to put the best people in place at all levels.

In many ways I think ETH is a goner for this reason alone. If the right person is running a club and he is getting his number one target as manager who perfectly fits his ideas then its the right thing too do.


12.) 14 Dec 2023 20:28:38
Agree with that oakbark. And EtH is trying to change man utd DNA quite a bit. That is why we are having the growing pains I think. Maybe a new DOF is happy with him, but j agree that we need to be reviewed and aligned from top to bottom. Jnvludibg the way the youth teams play.


13.) 14 Dec 2023 20:29:47
Injuries have had a massive impact on our season

We have not been able to play our strongest line up once this season

You can’t be successful chopping and changing constantly.

Plus as seen with previous managers certain players that are still in this team don’t perform on a consistent basis

Untill these players are gone any manager will fail some of these players are not to the standard of where we want to be

We have to stick by ten hag get rid of these players, these bluffers that time and time again have not performed

Why do we keep sacking managers but the same players are getting new contracts

Hope Jim and ineos come in and set a proper footballing structure but if the glazers are still having final say then this will fail..

How on earth we still have players in the club that played under Jose is a joke

Arteta has 2 players in that arsenal squad from when he took over and look what happens when you stick by the manager and not th e players

Give ten hag the time and the structure.

We massively overachieved last season, give him time

We have been though a lot worse the past 10 years than to sack another manager again.


 

 

08 Dec 2023 16:21:26
November Manager of the Month: Erik Ten Hag
November Player of the Month: Harry Maguire
November Goal of the Month: Alejandro Garnacho

Crazy to think so many people have us down and out and have been questioning ETH give the off field issues and injury problems.

3 points off Man City and we are still the most talked about team in the league. Sly Sports News did a piece debating whether the Chelsea game was ETHs most important game of his tenure. The journalism is really embarrassing. When will they stop talking about is like we are Chelsea?

KurtisHaywood

1.) 08 Dec 2023 17:30:06
Let's ne fair, we have been erratic. However, I think that's less to do with the Manager or player quality, and more to do with culture and approach. A few bad apples can upset everyone, they need sorting quickly.


2.) 08 Dec 2023 18:55:52
Clearly we can't have that. Need to fire Ten Hag and sell Maguire and Garnacho asap. Oh, and while we're at it Mctom too. He's scoring way too often.

I think one can see the ingredients of a decent team. Even Antony has stepped up. All we need is Hojlund to start knocking a few in. which is why Mctom has to go because he's poaching all Hojlund's chances. ?.


3.) 09 Dec 2023 06:01:31
I'm getting more and more amazed by McTom in the final third. He really does have a very high class instinct when balls are crossed into the box.
Even if he doesn't remain a starter, if he keeps scoring like that, he can always be a substitute when we are chasing the game.

That finish to lift the ball up from his right foot and volley from his weaker left foot was a very good strikers goal.

The guy might be cery bang average in other departments but the moment ball is in put into box he becomes someone else.


4.) 09 Dec 2023 06:49:06
it should be a tough game today and bit different to chelsea. chelsea came out and wanted to play and had two teams pushing forward and very open game.

Bournemouth will most likely play more defensive and possibly sit in, which will frustrate. Hope we can unlock it early to get them to come out.

It would be nice to bank 3 points and relax and watch the villa/ arsenal game later on and spurs/ Newcastle tomm and see how the top end does.

Thinking United win, draw for arsenal and win for spurs.


5.) 09 Dec 2023 11:12:50
Well, we had a great November :)
Hope it can continue. Tricky few games coming up and I do see a few defeats, but the positive signs are there.


6.) 09 Dec 2023 17:38:17
Not anymore. that was. a word not been invented yet for how bad that was. All in ten hag that, bewildering team selection set the tone and never recovered after 5 minutes. Keeper is dodgy, defence all over place, midfield non existent and a forward line that can't hit a barn door. After 400m spent.
Someone utd are 6th and can have a good season if things change, I'll be amazed if ten hag survives this. old Trafford was empty with 20 minutes left, that's not good. most I think have had enough.


7.) 09 Dec 2023 17:42:55
Interesting to see the comments after today’s massacre.


 

 

16 Oct 2021 19:12:35
You can give a man all the tools in the world, it doesn't mean he will be able to build you a house.

Unfortunately the same can now be said about Ole. Strengthened areas that needed it and we look a worse team than we did last year. Club legend status has worn off, he isn't the man for the job. Time to move him on before things start to get worse and we end up like Arsenal.

KurtisHaywood

{Ed014's Note - ?? you’ve been the new Arsenal for years!


1.) 16 Oct 2021 19:29:53
He was never the man for the job.


2.) 16 Oct 2021 20:31:03
Ole has got the tools but not the blueprint to build the house ?.

He's still searching for it with Fred helping him out ?.


 

 

 

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19 Mar 2024 20:14:26
Hope those calling for ETHs get what's coming with Southgate. Bloke has no proven tactics and we will be playing boring football.

1 step forward 2 steps back.

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12 Mar 2024 14:48:52
Of course its ETH fault, everything is his fault. Posters here know more than the manager who spends 6 days a week with the players.

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02 Mar 2024 20:13:28
Seriously do not understand why so many are backing Potter like he is an improvement. We've seen what he can do at a big club. Stay well away.

Give ETH one more year then put it to the jury.

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04 Feb 2024 18:38:59
Ed002, probably covered, but is there any circumstance in which they stick with ETH? Thanks in advance.

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30 Dec 2023 22:48:47
Ed is ETH aware that he is likely to be out of a job in the summer? Are you aware of any conversations that might have taken place?

Sorry if its not that simple or more complicated, just want to understand whether this is affecting the group.

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Pretty sure we will see every manager linked before the season ends. Anything to sell news. As long as its not Southgates name any more I will be happy.

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18 Mar 2024 18:09:22
Glad you enjoyed the game Ahmad, and what a game to go to! Also great to read about where a lot of the fans heads are at, rather some of the usual negativity from pundits and online fans.

Agree with you and Wazza re Dalot. Definitely in our best defenders list with Licha, Varane and Shaw.

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18 Mar 2024 08:28:28
Morning Bill! Great game, I think this has been the best quarter finals in FA Cup History. Last minute winner for us, the Coventry game was a great and Chelsea also snatched it in the last.

Being from Coventry and following their games, they aren't a team I am taking for granted. They can score goals and we don't look the best at the back. Their following is also unbelievable so fully expect their fans to be the 12th man at Wembley!

As for ETH, I personally want to see him given another year or two with the correct structure in place. I think he is a good coach and his record at Ajax and with us last season proved that, its not been down to luck. He has the highest win percentage of any previous manager since Ferguson and had a good first season. If he struggles to improve the team under a clear play style and the right recruitment then I would agree to move him on. It seems like we are going to be pushing towards younger players in the transfer market and I think ETH has shown his ability to coach and progress younger players. Mainoo, Garnacho and Hojlund all being prime examples of players who have improved under him .

There have been posters question his leadership capabilities which I personally haven't seen any issues with. He has made big decisions when needed too. Looking at the Ronaldo, Sancho and various Rashford situations, he has handled them well. There are issues at the club that run deeper than the manager and he is handling them the best he can.

Its always the same fans throwing the manager under the bus when the going gets a little tough. They want results here and now and don't look at the bigger picture. I liken our situation to Klopp and Arteta. Both took 2-3 years to settle in the Premier League and build a team - both had worst starts than ETH. They were given time and look at what they are achieving.

There is a lot of noise on this page about how ETH should be replaced, but I am yet to see a valid argument by the same fans on who is realistically available to replace him and would be an improvement. There are circa 11 players I would move on before I even looked to move ETH on.

All the best for the rest of the season. It will be interesting to see who Liverpool replace Klopp with.

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13 Mar 2024 22:42:26
I agree TW. I don't think is a box to box midfielder. He is too creative and should be playing in the 10 or 8 role. The problem is we are too vulnerable at the back so we are restricted to having 2 defensive midfielders.

Personally I would move Bruno on in the Summer, and if Mount can stay fit, have him play in his role.

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13 Mar 2024 19:05:13
Just to clarify, Mason Mount ranked 1st in the following areas since his Chelsea Debut when we signed him:

Appearances, Starts, Minutes Played, Goals, Assists and Chances Created.

Appreciate he had a bad last season and has been injured this season, but there is certainly a proven PL player in there.

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