Manchester United Rumours Member Posts

 

LovelyLudwigVan's Profile

Current Avatar:
No Avatar image uploaded
Flat Out Racing:

Not played Flat Out Racing


No Profile Picture uploaded

Team: Manchester United


Where from: France


Favourite player: Cantona


Best team moment: 1999 CL final win over Bayern


Interests:


Timezone: (GMT) London




LovelyLudwigVan's Posts and Other Poster's Replies To LovelyLudwigVan's Posts

 

 

To LovelyLudwigVan's last 5 rumours posts

 

To LovelyLudwigVan's last 5 banter posts

 

To LovelyLudwigVan's last 5 rumour replies

 

To LovelyLudwigVan's last 5 banter replies

 

LovelyLudwigVan's rumours posts with other poster's replies to LovelyLudwigVan's rumours posts

 

08 Aug 2019 10:51:44
Rojo may be moving to Everton on loan according to ESPN.

LovelyLudwigVan

1.) 08 Aug 2019 10:57:44
Only on loan? Groan.


2.) 08 Aug 2019 12:51:08
Seems to be a permanent move, not a loan.


3.) 08 Aug 2019 13:00:41
Yeah, just seen that's being reported by Sky now.


4.) 08 Aug 2019 13:03:38
For a fee of 25m, great if true.


5.) 08 Aug 2019 14:09:48
£55m net and Rojo off the books in exchange for Maguire if it works out.


6.) 08 Aug 2019 14:36:58
Permanent deal according to Sky. Would be nice to manage to get some out of the door who are further down the pecking order now as the squad is a little bloated in areas.
Still hoping for a last day suprise midfield signing. Im pretty happy with the squad in general just need some extra quality in midfield.


7.) 08 Aug 2019 16:59:10
Fellaini, Herrera, Lukaku replaced by Maguire, James and Wan Bissaka. I just don't get it, they needed a central midfielder yet did not address the issue this window. Quite surprised. They scouted Bruno Fernandes for so long yet no moves?


 

 

24 Jul 2019 08:45:16
The French press are claiming United made a bid to Lille but it was rejected by the club. They also claim Pépé has agreed to join in principle if the clubs do agree on a fee. His preferred option would be PSG, but they do not seem interested, Napoli are also considering a bid.

LovelyLudwigVan

1.) 24 Jul 2019 10:20:59
Well unless Lille have allowed Pepe and his agent to speak to United then any agreed deal would be tapping up.

I would suggest Lille are unlikely to allow that to happen unless they feel they will get an acceptable bid.

So either this a complete poppycock, or United might have bid close to an acceptable amount. Or option three, United did bid, it was rejected and the media outlet have used "poetic licence" to add the bit about Pepe agreeing to join United.


2.) 24 Jul 2019 10:56:56
Not sure how it works exactly, but wouldn't the club be allowed to begin talks with the player in order to see if there is interest before making a formal bid (if the selling club permits of course)? From what I gathered with De Ligt, there was contact with Juventus while the clubs negotiated fees.

Lille's president has agreed to let Pepe leave (and has even said a transfer is close), does that not allow him and his agent to approach other teams to seek a deal, it would be as much in the interest of Lille as it would for Pepe?


3.) 24 Jul 2019 11:17:36
Within the rules of the game, Pepe and/ or his agent can only discuss a deal with another club IF his club have given them their permission.

{Ed002's Note - His agent can speak to whoever he wants.}


4.) 24 Jul 2019 11:24:59
Clubs speak to agents first to understand if the player will be interested in the move and in the terms proposed based on the perceived value to the squad / budget available etc. They can approach the selling club before or after this as this has no bearing on if the fee will be agreed. if pepe has agreed terms with us it does not mean that we will agree a fee with lille. I hope we steer clear given the concerns about the players attitude.


5.) 24 Jul 2019 15:51:48
Clubs clearly speak to agents first to sound a player out then go the players club.


6.) 24 Jul 2019 17:33:59
Shappy more nonsense statement of facts.
Where do you get this stuff from or do you just make it up for the fun of it.
Agents can talk to any club at anytime about a player.


7.) 24 Jul 2019 17:35:54
I wonder should you talk to your wife niece uncle and aunt shappy because i can't think of any reason 4 people on this site could agree with that and give a thumbs up😂😂😂.


8.) 24 Jul 2019 18:09:34
Ed002, so what constitutes "tapping-up" then?

{Ed002's Note - Making a direct approach to the player without any permission from his club.}


9.) 24 Jul 2019 19:18:29
Sorry to bug you about it Ed, but does his agent need permission from the club to talk to other clubs?

{Ed002's Note - No.}


10.) 24 Jul 2019 19:45:57
So it really is a pointless regulation, as 99% have an agent and they almost entirely arrange a players affairs.

What does it matter if a player is spoken to directly or through his agent.


11.) 24 Jul 2019 20:15:22
Cause its seen as directly tapping up a player maybe?


12.) 24 Jul 2019 20:17:02
I don't disagree with there being very little difference shappy.
But its cleaner and puts gap between any player a prospective buyer while contracted to another club.
All clubs can deny the opportunity for a player to talk to any club while under contract.


13.) 24 Jul 2019 21:09:19
I have just brought a very fine "french press" its insulted you now.


 

 

14 Jun 2018 23:55:09
Any truth to the interest in Golovin the commentators spoke about during the match? They said Arsenal were interested but pulled out, that United were still linked.

LovelyLudwigVan

 

 

 

LovelyLudwigVan's banter posts with other poster's replies to LovelyLudwigVan's banter posts

 

24 Aug 2019 12:11:54
Phil Neville was asked who he is most excited about seeing this season in the league. He replied the young English talent: Mount, Abraham, Rashford, Lingard. there are a bunch of young English talent breaking through. You'd think by 27, Lingard would have had his breakthrough, shouldn't he be peaking?

LovelyLudwigVan

1.) 24 Aug 2019 13:11:40
What is our club name? Manchester UNITED?

So why do we always feel the need to dog out one of our players?

Lingard is a hard worker who is reasonably talented and he love the club. The only thing people seem to have a problem with him is he isn't Leo Messi.

There are a dozen players at our club who contribute less to the side than Lingard. So why keep digging out Lingard? (That isn't just aimed at you LovelyLudwigVan, but everyone who feels the need to criticise Lingard, sometimes without him even kicking a ball) .

Maybe he isn't talented enough to be first choice, but it isn't his fault that there isn't anyone else currently at the club who is better than him. He is a quality squad player, a hard worker and has a genuine love and passion for our club. Maybe he isn't good enough to be starting but until a better player either signs or emerges at the club he is the best player for the role he is playing. Let's just try something a little bit crazy and support our players.


2.) 24 Aug 2019 13:47:42
Mmm shaps when you get off your soap box perhaps you would like to reflect on some of your posts on young from last season or your feelings on sanchez or rojo or your appeal for us not to sign maguire.
Dont give us the holier than thou speech.
You have come on here hundreds of times picking out faults in our players.
We all do. All football fans do.
In your opinion he is the best we have in the squad for his position. Which position is that? as ole has started him in 2 different positions in 2 different matches
I agree he is a good squad player he is just not everybody's cup of tea. Same way as young or rojo or sanchez or matic who you continually dog are not yours.


3.) 24 Aug 2019 14:06:45
Llv I thought the same thing when he said.


4.) 24 Aug 2019 14:06:57
Banter police alert 🚓.


5.) 24 Aug 2019 14:08:20
Shappy, besides me believing that Lingard isn't anywhere near good enough to be in the squad let alone the first team, this was more a joke towards Phil Neville who still sees Lingard as up and coming young English talent. This narrative has been the butt end of jokes for two/ three seasons now, yet it persists. No one considers Pogba as an up and coming young French talent, yet he's a few months younger.

In essence I agree with Neville, England does have some exciting talent coming through, but there were other names that could be mentioned, Sancho, Wan Bissaka, Foden, Alexander-Arnold, but he lumps Lingard in there instead, it's a joke. I'm curious to know who'll end up as England's first choice right-back, both AWB and TAA are likely going to be difficult to choose between.


6.) 24 Aug 2019 14:11:22
That is the definition of banter Anthony. Really Need to get you a dictionary😂😂.


7.) 24 Aug 2019 14:58:44
Ken I think everyone agrees we need a RW and a No.10 as there is no one in the squad able or ready to be first choice in that role. Lingard is better and more consistent than anyone else in both those positions.

I agree that I do pick faults with our players, as you highlight we all do. I suppose I just find the constant and repetitive retorts boring and add little to the site.


LovelyLudwigVan, I think it's a great position for England to be in. Personally I think TAA is a better option if your expecting to have the majority of possession. Whereas, AWB is better if you expect to have to defend more or if there is a serious threat on the oppositions left wing.


8.) 24 Aug 2019 15:06:50
👍👌 shaps.


9.) 24 Aug 2019 16:31:12
The issue is that a 26 year old is still being described as a young player. It’s not just Phil, his brother, Scholes and Giggs like to do it too. They’re confusing mental age with actual age.

It isn’t his fault that he’s first choice, but pretending that he’s got the ‘potential’ to be a top class player justifies the club’s failure to bring in a top quality attacking mid in the summer.


10.) 24 Aug 2019 18:01:06
Shaps here is your post match lingard assessment from the match posts page.

Lingard is a useful player, one you want in the tight games where you need someone to do lots of off the ball work to unsettle the opposition and win the ball back high up. Yet against a side that would sit deep and effectively hand you back possession as easily as Palace do it make little sense playing a player of Lingard's skill set.  

That comes 5 hours after you telling me he is the best option ole has in 2 positions. 5 hours later ole shouldn't be playing him😂😂😂😂 glass houses and stones spring to mind.


11.) 24 Aug 2019 19:38:43
I thought it was going to be grim on here today but didn't expect internecine all out verbal warfare.
We are Manchester alright but united? - we haven't been for years now.


12.) 24 Aug 2019 19:42:29
Someone said about 1of my earlier posts that i just threw in random names IE Maddison/ brooks, that’s ok everyone is entitled to their opinions but wouldn’t we just love them now, jesse is not up to playing at the level we need.


13.) 25 Aug 2019 07:33:08
I actually think we should keep him. It is the pay hike that he wants and the apparent immunity from pay cut that other players will suffer if CL not achieved that make me wonder whether we should even contemplate dancing to hi tune. As far as I can see he has not had a dip in form as a slump to a lower plateaux. I agree it is not about ability and potential to improve further from his hitherto high performance, more a matter of distraction. The lure of Madrid or another Spanish club an the desire to be nearer his GF is entirely understandable but it affect the team's performance in the league. I think it is.


 

 

20 Aug 2019 08:50:36
So much drama over a missed penalty, it happens. When Ole says there is an agenda against Pogba, it is quite obvious today, would the media reaction be the same had Rashford missed? (there doesn't seem to be a mention of his dreadful freekick) . Then there's an article about Pogba being racially abused on Twitter, maybe the platforms writing those articles should take a long hard look at themselves and question whether they have some part in fuelling that.

Overall a good performance last night. Pogba and McTominay dictated the tempo in the first half by sitting deep and causing a wide gap between the Wolves defence and midfield. Wolves changed that in the second half with some high pressing, but we still managed to regain control after they took command. I do think Ole needs to make changes sooner though. Lingard was crap again and should have been taken of much sooner. No one is highlighting his dreadful attempt at a volley which could have also won us the game. Still 4 points from Chelsea and Wolves is not a bad start and probably more than most would have expected.

LovelyLudwigVan

1.) 20 Aug 2019 09:09:27
Agree completely with that, the reaction to the penalty has been so reactionary especially from someone like g neville last night who was in a hysterical mood.

Pogba was our regular penalty taker last season and its not like he stole the ball off of rashford and there was big argument. That being said ole needs to make a decision and pick one out rashford, pogba or even martial to be the designated taker.


2.) 20 Aug 2019 09:32:37
Pogba did extremely well to win the penalty.

However, It was 2 points dropped against a very good well drilled Wolves side.
Adama Traore was in beast mode when he came on.


3.) 20 Aug 2019 09:42:57
Good Post Van, Its a game and you can miss a penalty nothing wrong in that, saw a few tweets from G. Neville as well where is absolutely furious for no reason.


4.) 20 Aug 2019 09:56:36
Pogba has missed 5 penalties for us in less than 12 months. He should not be anywhere near them. Maybe ole doesn't want to upset him. The golden child.
He is an egomaniac who needs to be put in his place.
Worst penalty taking record for any designated penalty taker across each and every European league.
Its his fault but by he should be stripped of the duty. But as i said ole is scared of him as far as I'm concerned. Or at least afraid of upsetting him.
If pogba was any sort of man at all he would walk away from pen duty imo.
We played ok last night. More of the same really. We were in control most of the match but have no cutting edge or creativity to take advantage of our control.


5.) 20 Aug 2019 10:48:38
becks neville is an media shill with an agenda these days, slightest mistake from likes of martial or pogba and he cries murder but if any of lingard or rashford or anyother english players don't do well he will have 101 excuses for them.


6.) 20 Aug 2019 12:11:01
Ken, it wasn't too bad a penalty, that is even mentioned in the articles, but the concentration isn't on that, or Rui Patricio's save, or even, as you mention, the excellent run Pogba made to win that penalty, it has all been focused on the fact Pogba didn't score. It wasn't a botched penalty, it was struck hard, maybe not enough to the left, but Patricio would have still covered much more. We should all be focusing on the run and the save, not the unfortunate miss. That being said, Pogba doesn't have the best record on penalties, but he seems to have confidence, which is far more likely to be the reason he still gets to take them. Again, I must insist here, no other manager complains about Pogba other than Mourinho, so this whole character diffamation is getting old, it would have some ground to stand on if it was the broader opinion of the coaches he's worked under.

TrueRedDevil, sure it was two points dropped, but Lingard could be considered just as much at fault for that mis-kick, that pretty much summed up his entire career, if he'd bagged that goal as he should have, Pogba's miss wouldn't even be an issue.

Becks, Neville is just a grumpy old man, but his messages are appalling at times, severe lack of respect for a club he supposedly loves. I guess he wants to prove he's objectif, but he just comes off as petty when he does so.


7.) 20 Aug 2019 14:23:49
Llv he first come across as petty to me.

Pogba is confident to take penalties. Just 2 simple questions for you.
Do you thinks pogbas confidence in taking penalties is misplaced given that he has missed 5 in his last 10?

Do you think he should be removed from the duty because he misses more than any other designated penalty taker In europe?


8.) 20 Aug 2019 15:23:09
Ole has dug a little hole for himself with last night's penalty miss. Who takes the next one? If it's Rashford he'll be accused of being indecisive. If it's Pogba, he'll be accused of being weak. Or that he's undermining Pogba.
He should choose one. Rashford is the guy in my opinion.
To be fair, Patricio is a very good penalty stopper.
Generally, United have started reasonably well and look a more cohesive unit. Yes there are definite areas where they must improve. But there is desire and passion in the players. That's good to see. I'm hoping that it continues.


9.) 20 Aug 2019 18:20:18
Not necessarily bad penalties though Ken, that's the issue. But in the end, neither you or I are Ole, nor are we anywhere near the dressing room or training sessions. Rashford has scored what 3/ 3, he could miss three out of the next five, and what then?

It's just over-dramatisation for the sake of over-dramatisation. It was a decent team effort, and we're all be petty because a player missed a penalty, which was A- well earned, B- well struck and C- well saved. If it was a dubious penalty, badly taken or wide of the mark, then I could get the whining, but this is merely overreacting.


10.) 20 Aug 2019 18:56:37
I actually thought he handled it brilliantly. By saying that the decision is made by Rashford and Pogba he has avoided any come back when we next get a penalty. As whoever takes it Ole can say it was the decision of the players.

Some might say that is weak management, yet it makes little sense to have a specific penalty taker.

For example, Let's say it's Rashford. We are playing a key cup game we have created 4 or 5 good chances but Rashford is having a mare and fluffed all of them. We then win a vital penalty late into the game. Do you stick with Rashford as he is the designated penalty taker or do you switch?

If you switch then you risk undermining Rashford's confidence. If you stick and he misses then you risk backlash from the fans and the media. The only way you come off well is if you stick and Rashford buries it. Which of the three potential outcomes gives you a 33.3% chance of "doing the right thing".

Whereas, if you have two players who share the responsibility they get to have a discussion and hopefully the player who feels best placed to take it takes the penalty. Then score or not it doesn't come back on the manager.


11.) 20 Aug 2019 19:30:22
You have a valid point Shappy and well put. But Pogba's penalty record is not great and Rashford scored last game. Ole should really stick with that and discussed that pre match.
You're right though, he did handle it well and deflected back on to the players. Gives them something to think about.
As well, it wasn't a shocking penalty and Patricio is very good in those situations.
Good post Shappy.


12.) 20 Aug 2019 20:30:53
Mmm jose does that its throwing the players under the bus.
The double standards are hilarious.


13.) 20 Aug 2019 21:17:35
He didn't throw them under the bus Ken. That's the point I think. It was more subtle than that.
Jose would actually name and shame. God knows what he'd of said about last night if he was still in charge.


14.) 20 Aug 2019 22:20:36
Ken, there is a subtle difference. Ole didn't throw anyone under the bus, he said that the coaches and the players have come to the conclusion that either Pogba or Rashford should take penalties and left it down to the players to decide on a game by game basis.

He hasn't thrown anyone under the bus. He defended both Pogba and Rashford.

Mourinho would have said he wanted Rashford to take the penalty so he couldn't be blamed for the miss. Then for good measure he'd have called Rashford a coward for letting Pogba take it and Pogba a bully for taking it off of Rashford. He'd then say it's all Luke Shaw's fault for some reason.


15.) 21 Aug 2019 06:17:53
Well said Shappy.
Ole is protecting his players. The players at the moment are giving all on the pitch for him.


 

 

11 Aug 2019 18:31:16
Well that was rather pleasant.

LovelyLudwigVan

 

 

07 Aug 2019 09:24:55
Simon Stone reporting that talks for Eriksen have been called off. The club is still working on other targets but may not have time to complete anything before deadline.

LovelyLudwigVan

1.) 07 Aug 2019 09:38:04
Re Simon Stone report. If you leave things till the last minute, you know you risk running out of time.
Either you do that on purpose or else it's gross incompetence.


2.) 07 Aug 2019 11:03:00
I don't think its that simple but more a case of a tactic to force the hand of others including ourselves and everyone seems to be playing it.


 

 

27 Jul 2019 10:23:46
Bale to China and potentially James Rodriguez to Atletico, looks like this could pave the way for Pogba.

LovelyLudwigVan

1.) 27 Jul 2019 11:49:16
Looks like it. Then we could see a merry-go-round with Juventus selling Dybala and replacing him with Icardi, then Inter using the money from that sale to but Lukaku.

Not sure where Dybala goes though, I think the club's rumoured to be in for him are Atletico and Bayern.


2.) 27 Jul 2019 13:36:28
Well the reports are of Lukaku possibly going to Juventus now with Dybala included. I wonder if that's how it will happen 🤔.


 

 

 

LovelyLudwigVan's rumour replies

 

Click To View This Thread

14 Aug 2019 16:02:26
I saw reports that Sanchez got angry with Greenwood because he challenged him in training. If so, that's not the attitude you want to help breed confidence in the youth.

LovelyLudwigVan

 

 

Click To View This Thread

10 Aug 2019 08:00:34
Even the stories suggested Juventus offered those players to us, not the other way round. Plus Dybala would have likely played as the 10, not the main striker. Making a meal from nothing. I'm glad Greenwood is getting a look in, hopefully Chong, Tuanzebe and Gomes get a few games too.

LovelyLudwigVan

 

 

Click To View This Thread

08 Aug 2019 19:35:35
He will join in January when he turns 17 from what I read. Haven't seen him play though.

LovelyLudwigVan

 

 

Click To View This Thread

08 Aug 2019 13:00:41
Yeah, just seen that's being reported by Sky now.

LovelyLudwigVan

 

 

Click To View This Thread

08 Aug 2019 08:57:06
Fernandes doesn't seem Tottenham bound, they seem to be signing Dybala, Lo Celso and Sessegnon. Leaves the door open if the club meet the asking price.

LovelyLudwigVan

 

 

 

LovelyLudwigVan's banter replies

 

Click To View This Thread

24 Aug 2019 14:08:20
Shappy, besides me believing that Lingard isn't anywhere near good enough to be in the squad let alone the first team, this was more a joke towards Phil Neville who still sees Lingard as up and coming young English talent. This narrative has been the butt end of jokes for two/ three seasons now, yet it persists. No one considers Pogba as an up and coming young French talent, yet he's a few months younger.

In essence I agree with Neville, England does have some exciting talent coming through, but there were other names that could be mentioned, Sancho, Wan Bissaka, Foden, Alexander-Arnold, but he lumps Lingard in there instead, it's a joke. I'm curious to know who'll end up as England's first choice right-back, both AWB and TAA are likely going to be difficult to choose between.

LovelyLudwigVan

 

 

Click To View This Thread

21 Aug 2019 16:26:01
Dazw, I honestly believe Lingard is Newcastle level at best. Never been a fan of his and never thought he'd come good. His presence in the squad is the sign there are huge gaps to be filled.

LovelyLudwigVan

 

 

Click To View This Thread

20 Aug 2019 18:20:18
Not necessarily bad penalties though Ken, that's the issue. But in the end, neither you or I are Ole, nor are we anywhere near the dressing room or training sessions. Rashford has scored what 3/ 3, he could miss three out of the next five, and what then?

It's just over-dramatisation for the sake of over-dramatisation. It was a decent team effort, and we're all be petty because a player missed a penalty, which was A- well earned, B- well struck and C- well saved. If it was a dubious penalty, badly taken or wide of the mark, then I could get the whining, but this is merely overreacting.

LovelyLudwigVan

 

 

Click To View This Thread

20 Aug 2019 14:57:31
Caolan, you simply cannot compare Lingard to Park, Park had an end product and was decisive. There's was a pass last night from Lingard that went towards two players, it wasn't aimed at either, just kicked in their general direction and those two players (Maguire and Pogba, if memory serves) had to look to each other to decide who would take the ball, that's not acceptable and it's definitely not decisive. I know that's one example, but it's something that happens all too often with him, speculative passes, speculative runs, speculative shots, when one out of a hundred comes through, he is lauded.

Lingard reminds me honestly of Chadwick and Richardson, players who were looked at, given a brief chance in the first team and moved on because they were not good enough. Same should have been done with Lingard 4/ 5 years ago.

LovelyLudwigVan

 

 

Click To View This Thread

20 Aug 2019 12:15:44
TrueRedDevil, Perreira is the solution to the set-piece issue, at least for now. I'd give him a serious run in the attacking midfield role, which the option to switch with Pogba if needed (like in the second half last night, when Wolves changed their approach to neutralise Pogba's influence from the deep role) . But it seems Ole is intent on playing Lingard, he spoke before the game that he wanted James to play, so the obvious choice was to leave out Perreira and move Lingard to the centre, there seemed to be no consideration to drop Lingard.

LovelyLudwigVan